ways i learn hanzi as a beginner in chinese 🇨🇳

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  • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
    @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +20

    guys, let me reiterate the point i was trying to make with the stroke order (+ edit: i know china is east asia/northeast asia - i misspoke by habit because i did a module on southeast asia and we studied china a lot due to its influence in the region)
    IT'S 100% OKAY IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME! i appreciate that this video has attracted many viewers new to my channel, but if you're new, i can assure you that for my personal and professional goals, handwriting is simply not the most important skill. i know i post my notes to the internet for anyone to see, but further down the line where i might communicate with actual natives for professional purposes, i can assure you they will not need to see my handwriting lol - it will be either spoken chinese or typed up characters
    also, i'm a beginner - i've never claimed to be a teacher! many mutuals of mine at a similar level to me wanted to know how i'm so confident with hanzi at this stage, and not feeling pressured to memorise every single stroke order was just 1 of 11 tips i shared in this video lol. stroke order is simply the most optimal way of writing a certain character. you should understand the basics of it and why it exists, but such a method DOES NOT necessarily suit every individual in the world. for many beginners, it can be overwhelming and slow you down, as was the case for me!!! 😅
    if you intend to be in a scenario where you have to handwrite essays or assignments, for example at a university in china, or you want to possess the ability to read handwriting/calligraphy with ease, then learning proper stroke order is very beneficial. however, if you're a casual learner, then who cares? as long as your writing is speedy and legible, the rest depends on your personal goals. technically you don't even have to handwrite anything for the hsk 3-6 exam if you choose to complete the test on a computer lol
    we are all entitled to our own opinions and approaches to language learning, and mine is simply based off my personal experience and goals, as well as what my chinese teachers have told me💓

    • @eliasebner3595
      @eliasebner3595 4 місяці тому +1

      no, it's not about speed. When you start writing faster and get into a more "cursive" script or "running" script, you connect strokes. If everybody connects strokes differently, the same character looks different depending on who writes it, so it's much harder to read that handwriting. That's why they came up with a single way to write characters that applies to everybody.
      And yes, it's also faster, but that's not the main point here, if you are fine with being slow, who cares, really.
      Also, most phone apps and handwriting recognition software won't be able to pick up a character written with wrong stroke order.
      Learning it is REALLY easy, there are a couple of rules that cover MOST (about 90%) of cases. You won't even have to look up the stroke order for each character, it's really easy, trust me.
      Mainly: go from left to right, top to bottom and from the outside to the inside.

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@eliasebner3595 sure but i only handwrite my notes, which at the end of the day only *i* need to be able to read. i don't/won't study in china and my next hsk exams will be on the computer. for my particular field of work, if i were to use chinese, it would either be spoken, or reading typed up characters. as for apps, i don't use any apps like that - any online dictionaries like pleco i use by typing the characters with pinyin - i tend to know how the word is pronounced before i know exactly how it's written. even just in general, i know for a fact my writing isn't absolutely atrocious because i do somewhat stick to left to right, top to bottom, etc. i just don't take time out of my day to sit down and rewrite the same characters over and over again like some people suggest. so yes, you can tell that i went a bit off the script with some characters, but also who cares? i'm not a teacher, i'm very open about the fact i'm a beginner so no one here is legally bound to take every bit of advice i give lol, abandoning the pressure of learning the SO for every character i learn is just what has helped me to progress quicker by focussing on other areas which are more useful for me personally. if you disagree that's completely fine but many of my audience are in similar positions to me, so the point i wanted to make was simply not to stress out over it if you're struggling with it and handwriting/calligraphy isn't one of your main goals in chinese :)

  • @seuny
    @seuny 4 місяці тому +25

    I tried to ignore pinyin like I ignored romanisation in Korean but if you want to improve speaking and listening you need to get familiar with then sound chart which is in Pinyin. Intials and finals are important as you can easily mispronounce syllables even outside of tones.

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +3

      absolutely! that's why i only recommend dropping pinyin after you're familiar and confident with the vocab. you simply won't know how to pronounce new vocab unless you include the pinyin :)

    • @nicolezhang8116
      @nicolezhang8116 4 місяці тому +2

      I don’t recommend dropping pinyin at all. It’s handy when it comes to typing Chinese. You just write the Pinyin out instead of writing out all the characters.

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@nicolezhang8116 what strange advice! 😃if you go to china, you won't have any pinyin guides at all! that's not even considering the fact that from hsk 3, there's no pinyin at all either. many people rely on pinyin when it's there, including myself, so if you want to travel to china or do hsk 3,4,5,6, then absolutely do drop it once you know how the word is pronounced. you'll find that your brain puts more work in to memorise the character instead. once a word and its pronunciation is committed to long term memory, you don't need pinyin at all. you just simply know what it is. natives don't sit there reading pinyin all day because they already know how a character is pronounced

  • @ericlie145
    @ericlie145 4 місяці тому +14

    Stroke order is important if you eventually decided for chinese calligraph, and it also for efficiency for writing faster in the long run😊. Dont let wrong strokes order become a habit.
    Your 汉字 handwritting looks neat though👍

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      谢谢你!i only really handwrite text in my notes, i don't/won't study in china and any future hsk exams i take will be on a computer! so writing fast isn't really a skill i need, in my field of work i'd benefit much more from strong speaking/listening skills, as well as reading typed up characters. however i agree that if you need to write fast or intend to read a lot of written chinese it's definitely useful :)

  • @rachelledellavecchia4951
    @rachelledellavecchia4951 3 місяці тому +3

    I studied Japanese from yr6 to yr 8 in primary school and High School then studied it again at University for 2 years. All my teachers drilled into me and my fellow students that stroke order is super important. 20 years later when wanting to self learn mandarin i just naturally learn the stroke order when learning the character.
    Loved the tip about the graded reader. I've been looking for something to help me with that. I always read aloud and try to make sure I'm pronouncing words correctly as well

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  3 місяці тому

      i'm not sure if i mentioned it in the video but there's also an audio option with DuChinese so that you can play the track and read it out loud at the same time - useful for shadowing :)

  • @ゆこ_1
    @ゆこ_1 3 місяці тому +3

    Ur handwriting is pretty beautiful but I think strock order is important

  • @xinyuanchen6281
    @xinyuanchen6281 4 місяці тому +2

    Just stumbled upon this video and wanted to say that you are really making incredible progress! As a native speaker I remember having trouble with pinyin because I already knew many characters before I was taught it. But I do generally observe the stroke orders so that I don’t pay attention to it when I write (otherwise I start inventing new orders as I do with the Latin alphabet, if this makes sense😂)

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому

      @@xinyuanchen6281 thanks for your comment! it was for the same for me when I was learning to write Russian. my spelling was awful because I wrote how I spoke, and I didn’t know the actual spelling lol

  • @dcjurick
    @dcjurick 22 дні тому

    Hi Dasha, I am going to take the HSK exams and thats how I found your videos. Congratulations for learning so quickly and thanks for you really nice videos. One thing though... I studied for 1,5 years in Beijing and I think you're missing out, if you don't adhere to the stroke order. Its not like its different in every charakter. Once you know it , you know how every charakter is written. It is important, because as your vocab grows it is hard to remember a character without practicing and Chinese is practiced by repetition. They say you need to learn it 7 times until it sticks. So you write lines of the same character again and again. When you write in the correct stroke order, every character is written in the same way every time and its like meditation and you get into a flow. You are not far off, but I think you're missing out, if you ignore that. Just for your consideration, as you are doing such a brilliant job otherwise. ❤

    • @dcjurick
      @dcjurick 22 дні тому

      A good app that also teaches correct stroke order is Duolingo

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  16 днів тому

      thanks for your comment :) after seeing people's responses to this video, s.o. is something that i realise holds more importance than maybe i originally thought... although handwriting is less relevant to my goals now than it was at the beginning, for the purpose of learning vocab, i'll take it into account in the future :)

  • @odu6918
    @odu6918 4 місяці тому +20

    Im starting to learn Chinese language and I binge watched your videos! So helpful~ I’m glad about the stroke order 😂😂😂

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@odu6918 Im so happy they were useful for you 💓 and don’t worry, no one has to know if you don’t use the proper stroke order 😉

  • @mafen7600
    @mafen7600 4 місяці тому +2

    Radicals are a dictionary thing, which isn't important any more. But they are important as components and components are important. They become more important, when you are beyond the HSK2 level. Half of the radicals are characters in their own right, so you have to
    learn them anyway and they are kind of agreed components.
    Components give very often an idea of meaning and pronunciation of a character (like in 妈, a women 女, which is pronounced similar to 马), so it's helpful to know, what are the components of a character and what is the job of these components there.

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому

      @@mafen7600 sure, maybe they become more useful past hsk 2, but I’m not at that point yet 🤷🏻‍♀️ learning about the 女 radical was one of my first Chinese lessons but as a beginner, the fact not every woman-related words has a 女 radical made the whole concept quite confusing to me, so I decided to not focus on it. as you said, we’ll see if they become more important later on

  • @8森8
    @8森8 4 місяці тому +1

    For me personally I make an effort to learn stroke order because of when I learnt Korean, it made it easier to read a native’s handwriting 😅
    With Chinese (I just started) it helps me to make sure I haven’t missed any strokes 😂

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      learning it is definitely useful if you want to read handwriting!! it's just not one of my goals/intentions with chinese which is why not caring about it has helped me to progress quicker in the areas i do actually care about, but if it helps you then please do continue :)

  • @sijiee-h2d
    @sijiee-h2d Місяць тому

    stroke order is put in Chinese kids brains, for me, I keep writing squares with the stroke order of 口 haha, it sometimes look like a IZ sometimes

  • @bellexyz33
    @bellexyz33 4 місяці тому +1

    love your videosss💕

  • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
    @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +10

    let me know if you have any other video requests 谢谢大家 :D

    • @dakshajasingh2529
      @dakshajasingh2529 4 місяці тому

      i really wanted to in what order should I learn Chinese .... i mean pinyin first or characters or words or numbers , the appropriate order I watched a lot of videos but couldn't get my answer
      every yt video is about "why" not "how"

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому

      @@dakshajasingh2529 i mean, it depends on your personal goals. do you want to read Chinese, speak it, listen to it, etc.
      pinyin is important regardless of your goals because it tells you how to pronounce the word

    • @newcreation1cor517
      @newcreation1cor517 4 місяці тому

      ​@@dakshajasingh2529I totally agree with the video-creator: it depends on your goals. But, if your goal is a broad knowledge of the language, being able to understand and communicate in both spoken and written Chinese, I'd suggest listening first then speaking, then reading actual characters (from a Chinese perspective, you are hearing correct pronunciation as you read) with Pinyin only if you're struggling with correct pronunciation just from listening. Easy Mandarin does this well because you get a chance to listen to native speakers talk at full speed while they have subtitles. Du Chinese (the app mentioned in the video) is AMAZING as well. I use it at the advanced and master level, and it truly is excellent. You can start at the newbie level, read through looking at the English once so you know what you are going to listen to; listen two or three times; listen again while trying to follow along with the characters; then go back and look at the English comparing to the characters. It sounds like a lot, but repetition is so important as a beginning language learner. Look at babies! They have up to two years of repetition before speaking much. For writing, I do suggest learning stroke order from the beginning, but it's harder without a teacher in person correcting you and explaining why.

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@newcreation1cor517 great advice!

  • @maia4954
    @maia4954 4 місяці тому

    THANK YOU!! I love your videos

  • @abdullahalnoman7348
    @abdullahalnoman7348 3 місяці тому

    can anyone please name the apps name mentioned in this video ? I did not understand . Thanks in advance. ❤️

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  3 місяці тому

      @@abdullahalnoman7348 if you give me the time stamp I can clarify anything for you :) or I can’t remember for sure but I probably mentioned Duolingo and DuChinese!

  • @sarahbery
    @sarahbery 4 місяці тому

    i have just started learning chinese and the writing aspect was super overwhelming!! but with the help of your tips, i think it will get a lot easier. also, with quizlet, i like to use a whiteboard to write out the characters, flip the flashcard, then correct it afterwarss

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому

      i'm so happy to hear that!! don't worry, i know it can be overwhelming, but just take it slow - you'll be surprised by how much will effortlessly get stuck in your brain over time :) also, that's a great tip for quizlet! i currently use a whiteboard for duolingo but i'll defo give it a go with my flashcards

  • @_lilinana.languages
    @_lilinana.languages 4 місяці тому

    Love this ! You are doing amazing :) 加油啊🎉

  • @LenguasENAH
    @LenguasENAH 4 місяці тому

    Your writting looks gorgeous!

  • @tliyaa24
    @tliyaa24 4 місяці тому

    Hi! I subscribed to ur channel last week. As a beginner learning Chinese, I enjoy watching your content a lot🥰

  • @belakook328
    @belakook328 4 місяці тому

    Love your tips ....from bangladesh. I also started learning chines for 6 months its my 4th language ( bangla, English, Korean, Chinese) take love .

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      thank you for your comment

    • @ゆこ_1
      @ゆこ_1 3 місяці тому

      ​@@dashasdigitaldiaryyhahaha Chinese is my 5th language (English, Japanese, thai, Korean and Chinese)

  • @GigiDePatagonia
    @GigiDePatagonia 4 місяці тому +1

    Hace mucho tiempo que no hago nada en mi cuaderno, recuperaste mis ganas de volver a hacerlo. ¡Muchas gracias! ❤ Soy el like número 100 😅Increíble

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      estoy muy feliz de escuchar esto 🥹 y muchísimas gracias por tu apoyo 🥰🫶

    • @GigiDePatagonia
      @GigiDePatagonia 4 місяці тому

      @@dashasdigitaldiaryy ❤️❤️

  • @justnormal4818
    @justnormal4818 4 місяці тому

    Mandarin is an East Asian Language! Southeast Asian languages are spoken in countries like Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. Mandarin is an East Asian language, rather than a Southeast Asian one.

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@justnormal4818 yup, I put it in my pinned comment because I did a module on those countries last year so I just said southeast by habit lol 😅😅

  • @-nf9vt
    @-nf9vt 4 місяці тому

    Immersive translate is great for revision study for foreign y. I definitely recommend it

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому

      @@-nf9vt amazing thank you 😍 I just wish I could put double subtitles on Netflix on my TV 🥲

  • @auhoaixhe
    @auhoaixhe 4 місяці тому

    wow!As a Chinese, I really think your character writing is very good.🎉

  • @520nuonuo
    @520nuonuo 4 місяці тому

    hola, recien comencé a estudiar chino, tenia una pregunta sobre que materiales recomiendas para empezar, es decir para los apuntes y para los trazos, un cuaderno de cuadricula o de raya? etc

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@520nuonuo depende de tus preferencias personales :) no importa

  • @HairyCactus-k5b
    @HairyCactus-k5b 4 місяці тому

    What do you use to teach you the stroke order of chinese characters? :0

  • @violettavysevkova8726
    @violettavysevkova8726 4 місяці тому +1

    Привет, Даша! Спасибо за полезное и вдохновляющее видео 💗

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому

      @@violettavysevkova8726 спасибо большое вам, я рада что вам понравилось 💓💓

  • @ssaratkd
    @ssaratkd 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for the video!! Also if you have any tips to how memorizing the tones im glad to hear it😊 like I know how to pronounce the characters but I forget which tone should I use

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@ssaratkd to be honest I’m not great at it either, the ones I’m confident with are ones that I’ve practiced over and over to the point where it’s stuck in my head 🥲 I’d say before you 80% know the word, keep using the pinyin. then when you’re more confident, you can challenge yourself to write and pronounce the word without the pinyin. one thing that I will say really helps is hearing how the word is pronounced with the Quizlet tip I made in the video. if you can keep *hearing* how it’s pronounced, I think that helps it to get embedded into your brain. I hope that helps! 💓

    • @ssaratkd
      @ssaratkd 4 місяці тому

      @@dashasdigitaldiaryy Thanks I would definitely try it, learning chinese just needs time and over and over practices like you said

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@ssaratkd exactly! 加油加油🥰🫶

    • @newcreation1cor517
      @newcreation1cor517 4 місяці тому +2

      Sometimes tones are easier to learn in context, like a full sentence. There's kind of a rhythm to them, and when you hear a full sentence, the words kind of flow. Hopefully that's helpful!

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому

      @@newcreation1cor517 yes that’s very true actually! I kind of do that subconsciously I guess but it’s definitely a good tip

  • @user-id9bn1ic9v
    @user-id9bn1ic9v 4 місяці тому +1

    Before you said anything about stroke order I saw you write the 口 in 说 and tweaked a little lol no hate I’m just used to sticking to the stroke order

  • @maia4954
    @maia4954 4 місяці тому +1

    OMG I was so stuck in learning hanzi by stroke order

  • @yousraboudada
    @yousraboudada 4 місяці тому +1

    Amazing 🥰🥰🥰😇😇

  • @SafaaTB-ke7lk
    @SafaaTB-ke7lk 4 місяці тому

    I realized that u don't write with the stroke order 😢 is it ok?

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      as i said in the video, not even native chinese always use the correct stroke order. don't stress too much about it, it doesn't matter as long as you can write pretty quick and legibly 😁😁

    • @SafaaTB-ke7lk
      @SafaaTB-ke7lk 4 місяці тому

      @@dashasdigitaldiaryy i got it , thanku so much

    • @koushi8401
      @koushi8401 4 місяці тому +1

      ⁠​⁠@@dashasdigitaldiaryyas a native chinese i can confirm this, i never write in the correct stroke order bc it doesn’t really matter😅

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому

      @@koushi8401 我很高兴听到这个 🤣🫶

    • @koushi8401
      @koushi8401 4 місяці тому

      @@dashasdigitaldiaryy 加油!别给自己太大的压力,跟随着自己的学习步伐就行了。

  • @yousraboudada
    @yousraboudada 4 місяці тому

    Do you follow any youtube channels to learn chinese ? if you do can you mention them and thank you so much ! i love your videos so much 💀❣❣❣

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому

      @@yousraboudada hii to be honest I don’t really use UA-cam for Chinese! I only use it if I need to understand a specific thing a bit better

  • @claudiam9598
    @claudiam9598 3 місяці тому +1

    Your pronunciation of 'hanzi' is a little bit western, actually I do not believe there is any word in mandarin pronounced as 'zee', so in English the phonetic pronunciation would look more like 'hanzuh' or maybe 'hanzeh'. Watching Chinese dramas is a great way to improve your pronunciation and get a sense for how native Chinese speakers shape consonants and vowels.

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  3 місяці тому

      @@claudiam9598 that’s just my English accent hahahaah 😅 it does sound different if I’m fully speaking in Chinese. but overall my pronunciation does need some practice so ty!

    • @Hi_imtrex
      @Hi_imtrex 7 днів тому

      I dont see anything wrong with this. Im chinese but when i use chinese words in an english sentence, i use the western pronunciation. “Lomein” is an easy example that comes to mind.

  • @RizkiAnjani
    @RizkiAnjani 4 місяці тому

    很好, 很好。

  • @mayaaruan
    @mayaaruan 4 місяці тому

    Southeast asian?

  • @PuspoAktar-y6e
    @PuspoAktar-y6e 4 місяці тому

    Taylor Lisa Jones Shirley Smith Charles

  • @jellyfish686
    @jellyfish686 4 місяці тому

    綺麗な爪です(⁠ノ⁠^⁠_⁠^⁠)⁠ノ

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@jellyfish686 arigato 😳🩷 I just took my nail polish off before the video so I was hoping people wouldn’t notice them 🤣

  • @georgeradovanovich5276
    @georgeradovanovich5276 4 місяці тому

    English is the worst, letters are for decoration, just toss in some, more or some less... The spelling is the worst... It means nothing. For a dyslexic person, next to impossible. So chinese is the only language i can read in loud, i speak 4 BTW. English has 14-20 vowels, of course not represented in writing, so good luck. Have you met a foreign speaker who can nicely prounuce "cup and cop", " bud and buddy"... IPA would be better way ..

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому

      hahaha yes english spelling and pronunciation can be very difficult, growing up i was happy i was a native speaker because it meant i already knew most of the pronunciation. even then, some words i would avoid saying because their pronunciation is debated among us 😂😂

  • @mariano0800
    @mariano0800 4 місяці тому

    january 2024? and you are teaching what?!?!?!?!

    • @dashasdigitaldiaryy
      @dashasdigitaldiaryy  4 місяці тому +1

      @@mariano0800 nowhere did I say I was a teacher lol, I’m a beginner sharing things that have helped me to other beginners