Francis Derehim was the one who she was supposedly previously engaged to, but the engagement ended after he forced himself on her. Henry later had him tortured to death for taking Kathrine's virginity. Kathrine was ultimately charged with failure to disclose that she wasn't a virgin prior to marriage to Henry. However, the law was not in place at the time. Henry had Parliament write it into law before having sentenced her to death, because it's classified as treason. Although she also confessed to being with Henry's manservant Thomas Culpepper after she became queen. But Henry didnt seemed too concerned with him, and honored his request of granting him a quick and painless death.
@lena1989_ Manox was questioned, but released (according to Alison Weir, who has written on the British Royals). Dereham got the full traitor's death. Culpeper, Lady Rochford, and Katherine were all beheaded.
Catherine Howard grew up and was educated in the house of Agnes Tilney. While she was educated, no one taught her about morals or how important her reputation was. In Tilney's house affairs weren't uncommon. The women slept in one room, only separated with thin curtains. Historians say, that's the reason, why Catherine was really interested in sex. She fooled around with Manox, but was caught and nothing happened. Dereham and her had an affair and a marriage proposal. I don't think, it was forced, because of her upbringing, Catherine was probably curious and she didn't know, why she should be careful. Although there were no marriage plans for her, it was planned, that she would be a lady for the queen. Dereham was really ambitious and wanted to profit from the name Howard. That's why he claimed Catherine as his in his process. As for the process against Catherine. Henry first didn't care about the premarital accusations, but he was angry about the affair with Culpepper. Henry was old and ill and therefore probably infertile and his midlife crisis wedding with Catherine didn't bring the heir he wanted. All that and a smug Dereham was enough to execute a lot of people.
One of the Israeli hostages that was released months ago said that if a woman declared she had been raped on the day of ther abduction or later, the new captors would treat her as filth. So when the hostages were transfered from one place to another they learned to keep quiet about previous abuses.
This Queen was far too immature. Pity how women were mere chattel in those days and to this century they still are in certain cultures around the world.
@@jessicacarlisle9160its one of the biggest things they did wrong in this show. But they also did many things right espealially in the first seasons like cardinal Wolsey and sir Thomas More
Henry was considered very athletic and handsome in his youth but you're right they never made him unattractive in this show. I still Love it. One of my favorite shows.
@@Sharon-fw9qw Yeah that’s true, but also when the actor played Henry in his 50s (the time when Henry was actually considered balding and overweight/unattractive). They still had him looking very handsome.
Henry was hot when he was young and fit. He then started bloating like a frog, stank from his leg ulcers, I'd imagine he lost most of his hair, he got old and fat. But in the beginning he was hot.
If she had admitted to a pre contract and consummation of marriage she would have survived as there was no law against this. By denying it, her accusers dug deeper and found actual adultery .
If she had admitted it, she would've cruelly been seen as 'soiled', so 'not worthy' of marriage as women & girls had to be 'pure' before marriage. Also, the circumstances of the 'relationships' would've been seen as evidence of her not keeping 'good company' even though she was a minor and couldn't have informed consent.
No, he didn't. At first he truly believed the accusations were baseless. As if someone was plotting against him. She confessed later without force. Lady Rochmont confessed too but suffered a mental breakdown due to high pressure interrogation.
@@godsgift6317 from what I understand, he couldn't bear to tell him in person (knowing Henry's temper, can't blame him) so he wrote the letter instead.
I would imagine Phil. When Durham punched him in the face and reported it. I can be wrong, but it was a theory I had while watching the show 3 times in order.
I think tbh it was the guy she cheated on Henry with mister colpepper I think her saying she had a shit ton of loves made him mad sour just said fuck it and rote the letter or it was danhum how ever you spell it.
Francis Derehim was the one who she was supposedly previously engaged to, but the engagement ended after he forced himself on her. Henry later had him tortured to death for taking Kathrine's virginity. Kathrine was ultimately charged with failure to disclose that she wasn't a virgin prior to marriage to Henry. However, the law was not in place at the time. Henry had Parliament write it into law before having sentenced her to death, because it's classified as treason.
Although she also confessed to being with Henry's manservant Thomas Culpepper after she became queen.
But Henry didnt seemed too concerned with him, and honored his request of granting him a quick and painless death.
Wait but what about Henry Manox?? Weren't they "together" before she met Francis??
@lena1989_ Manox was questioned, but released (according to Alison Weir, who has written on the British Royals).
Dereham got the full traitor's death.
Culpeper, Lady Rochford, and Katherine were all beheaded.
Horrid man, no, a manchild....
Catherine Howard grew up and was educated in the house of Agnes Tilney. While she was educated, no one taught her about morals or how important her reputation was. In Tilney's house affairs weren't uncommon. The women slept in one room, only separated with thin curtains.
Historians say, that's the reason, why Catherine was really interested in sex. She fooled around with Manox, but was caught and nothing happened. Dereham and her had an affair and a marriage proposal. I don't think, it was forced, because of her upbringing, Catherine was probably curious and she didn't know, why she should be careful.
Although there were no marriage plans for her, it was planned, that she would be a lady for the queen.
Dereham was really ambitious and wanted to profit from the name Howard. That's why he claimed Catherine as his in his process.
As for the process against Catherine. Henry first didn't care about the premarital accusations, but he was angry about the affair with Culpepper. Henry was old and ill and therefore probably infertile and his midlife crisis wedding with Catherine didn't bring the heir he wanted.
All that and a smug Dereham was enough to execute a lot of people.
Right! Thanks for commenting to let more people know about that
People forget that not too long ago women were beheaded for having been assaulted and trying to cover it up to preserve their honor.
Still happens today
But in this day and age, it also happens
One of the Israeli hostages that was released months ago said that if a woman declared she had been raped on the day of ther abduction or later, the new captors would treat her as filth. So when the hostages were transfered from one place to another they learned to keep quiet about previous abuses.
It's fascinating how there are people still believing very obvious liars. @@claucemicro1080
@@claucemicro1080can you send me the article on that?
“ poor Katherine Howard, she lies in the cold ground next to me. Poor child.” -Anne Boleyn
This poor girl 😢I feel so bad for all of Henry’s wives
And to this day historians don't know who wrote the letter.
This Queen was far too immature.
Pity how women were mere chattel in those days and to this century they still are in certain cultures around the world.
Well, I mean, this is highly fictionalized.
Bruh she is a teen
Could you please tell the movie name.....❤
@@roshnipanda1250 this is the TV show The Tudors. It’s a VERY fictionalized show based on Henry VIII and his 6 wives.
@@jessicacarlisle9160its one of the biggest things they did wrong in this show.
But they also did many things right espealially in the first seasons like cardinal Wolsey and sir Thomas More
Idk why they had this hot ass guy play henery
Because he was hot when he was younger
Henry was considered very athletic and handsome in his youth but you're right they never made him unattractive in this show. I still Love it. One of my favorite shows.
@@RachaelCullinan Same
@@Sharon-fw9qw Yeah that’s true, but also when the actor played Henry in his 50s (the time when Henry was actually considered balding and overweight/unattractive). They still had him looking very handsome.
Henry was hot when he was young and fit. He then started bloating like a frog, stank from his leg ulcers, I'd imagine he lost most of his hair, he got old and fat.
But in the beginning he was hot.
Dies arme Mädchen war so blutjung sie muss so Angst gehabt haben.
If she had admitted to a pre contract and consummation of marriage she would have survived as there was no law against this. By denying it, her accusers dug deeper and found actual adultery .
Right, I think she’s so poor
If she had admitted it, she would've cruelly been seen as 'soiled', so 'not worthy' of marriage as women & girls had to be 'pure' before marriage.
Also, the circumstances of the 'relationships' would've been seen as evidence of her not keeping 'good company' even though she was a minor and couldn't have informed consent.
He wanted Catherine Howard dead because he grew tired of her and wanted another and she wasn't getting pregnant.
I’m guessing Henry has the letter written
No, he didn't. At first he truly believed the accusations were baseless. As if someone was plotting against him. She confessed later without force. Lady Rochmont confessed too but suffered a mental breakdown due to high pressure interrogation.
Actually, it was Thomas Cranmer, the Archbishop of Canterbury.
No, he did it write this
It was written by chat gpt
No, he believed her innocent until proof came up.
Arch bishop Cramner was the favourite of Lady Mary. He wrote this letter isn't it?.
Not quite, he was protestant and didn't want a Catholic and Howard Queen
We never found out who wrote the letter
I’m sure is the messenger, because he was jealous of her and rejected him
Historically, it is saud that Archbishop Cramer wrote the letter.
@@dorothypersons79Could you please tell y he wrote the letter.
Right, we never found out, so let’s watch the rest of the episode with some doubt
@@godsgift6317 from what I understand, he couldn't bear to tell him in person (knowing Henry's temper, can't blame him) so he wrote the letter instead.
I feel sorry for her, but she was pretty stupid, given Henry's history with his wives. 🤷♀️
Who wrote the letter?
Historically, it us said that Archbishop Cramer wrote the letter.
Per the internet, reformer John Lascelles wrote the letter to Thomas Cranmer, Archbishop of Canterbury
I would imagine Phil. When Durham punched him in the face and reported it. I can be wrong, but it was a theory I had while watching the show 3 times in order.
Maybe Carmer wrote this, but I’m not sure
Why execute Lady Rochford?
She was Anne sister-in-law, Katherine is the second Queen she served that 'cheated' Henry, so...
@@Rea_no_Kuni That explains nothing.
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bet u Joan wrote the letter
I think tbh it was the guy she cheated on Henry with mister colpepper I think her saying she had a shit ton of loves made him mad sour just said fuck it and rote the letter or it was danhum how ever you spell it.