Are Grappling Dummies Worth the Investment?
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Grappling dummies seem like a great solo alternative to training your Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, and wrestling if you don’t have a partner to train with.
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And although they’re tons of fun, they do come with some drawbacks that you should consider before shelling out the money.
That being said, I’m a huge fan of this 120 lbs. grappling dummy from @centurymartialarts - you can get one for yourself at the following link:
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0:00 Intro
0:31 What to name it?
1:02 How tall is it?
1:38 Construction and durability
2:01 Arms feature
3:26 Chaining takedowns with submissions
5:52 Using it to rehearse for belt testing
6:34 Stand-up striking
6:55 Drawbacks - Спорт
For home training yes ,same as a punchbag, never replaces the real thing but keeps you engaged.
same goes for something else 🍆
I moved to a very rural area with nothing for training. Looks like I’ll be doing nothing but videos and grappling dummies for the foreseeable future.
I'm in the same boat. Do the same. Its far from ideal but using this I've done well getting to judo competitions despite not getting to regular training
You could start your own grappling team with people from the área that would like to train. Nowadays. Alot of people want to learn martial arts in a friendly environment.
Find a bear.
lol same here XD
You'd be surprised at how many of those boys wanna wrassle out there. Just gotta find a coachable group and you can start your own crop of training partners.
I own two grappling dummies, a standing dummy and kneeling one. Both were great investments for me.
where did you get the kneeling one? i guess this is the standing one?
Both female?😋
Do they have a mouth hole? I ask for a friend he wants to buy one
same. i want to replace my fav uke with the smarty 2.0
which ones do you have?
for grappling I really like the "grappling smarty" dummy. It can do most jiu jitsu positions and even stuff like turtle. I like grappling dummies for getting reps in and getting techinques into the motor memory space. They aren't a replacement for training with a person and a person can develop bad habits with a dummy just like they could with bags/pads but in general they are really useful in the right context.
Hi, Is 'grappling smarty' good for throws praktyce? Hesitating with the purchase
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS! I just purchased the 140lbs 2 days ago & started to feel like I made a mistake because I found no videos of people working drills with dummies over 90 lb. I can appreciate the challenge to move it around but they do get heavy. Remember theyre --lbs of DEAD WEIGHT so choose wisely!!!
120 is also overkill
In class you're grappling with people alot more than 90 lbs. Chances of your class mate weighing so little is quite low. What you learn in jujitsu is about being able to control your opponent without strength or power, just pure technique. The dummy only replaces a classmate to practice on everything else is supposed to be same as far as proper technique goes. Any weight lying on floor whether person or dummy can feel like dead weight if you're relying on strength alone.
@@Asoka-eb8ruthe point is 120 deadweight feels completely different than 120 lbs human. A lot of grappling relies on push pull and feeling the momentum the deadweight kills it
I wanted one for wrestling but wasn’t sure so thank you
Craigslist to see if anyone sells it for cheap. Bought one for $50.
Some great flow shown. It was also good to see Shane being mindful of the steps to do that arm bar correctly as I know if you do it wrong, it just doesn't work at all.
I loooove these dummies for conditioning. I run my school's conditioning class and I want us to get more of them. Fireman carries, repeated slams/suplexes, and my favorite of all which is full force ground and pound for time. If you haven't yet try doing 1 min on 30 seconds off for 5 rounds of full power G&P and see how that makes you feel.
oh shane a nice little tip for that arm bar at 4:30 is if you take your left foot and point it inwards and underneath the shoulder blade & pinch your knees in it further isolates it and makes the arm bar much tighter and more difficult to escape
I love your voices cadence. Not even into this stuff but couldn’t stop watching! Keep it up
Thank you for this, Shane. I have no one to wrestle with, and I've been interested in these. I would so love to thrash one. Maybe a holiday gift from my wife? 🖤
Good white belt, did watch some instructionals 🎉 Glad to see you are doing some grappling as well ❤
You could sacrifice an old gi top and with a bit of sewing and velcro you could cut the gi to get it on without having to pull the arms through. Then you could train w gi on the dummy for chokes and lapel grips.
As a Judoka (recently promoted to Brown belt) I think grappling dummies can be a mixed bag. I don't think there's anything wrong with them, but I don't think they're 100% necessary to train with. I guess it can be easier to teach the basic movement of a throw or a grappling technique to a beginner, but I think if you pair them up with an experienced uke, it personally think it would be more beneficial. I found that the uke's feedback with some techniques, especially ne waza, can be really helpful. The only thing they seem to be absolutely necessary for is transitioning from standing to groundwork, and I found that a heavy bag works just fine for that (for judo at least). Not the worst thing in the world, but I personally would not spend money on one, but that's just me
Good demonstration for century. I want to buy one
Shane we're in the same boat with BJJ. I started a couple of months ago as a white belt and am LOVING IT! I've always considered a dummy but was hesitant due to cost. Maybe this will help motivate me to save up for it.
Hey bro, ask around at your gym and see if anyone has one they want to get rid of. I got a ring to cage dummy that’s $400 brand new for $75 from my coach
@@camsnyder2636 thanks! I got a stand up bag for free in a similar fashion. I'll look for opportunities to
ask around!
I needed this ❤
Hey man, I've literally grown up watching your videos, I can't believe you're still at it. I'm also a white belt in Judo 😋 joined the local club about 2.5 months ago. I was also thinking about buying a dummy, the bands are great but it's no fun when there's no execution. Thanks for fightTIPS
You could probably get the gi on the dummy by putting it on upside down in the front, then pulling it over the dummy's head. Or if that doesn't work, you could definitely take on old gi, cut it in two down the back, and sew on a big zipper.
I like the smarty for grappling - I’ve got the 50lb one. It feels like 150lbs though because it’s dead weight. I can’t imagine 120lbs :). I think dummies work well when watching instructionals to get the kinetic learning in.
Hi Shane, how are the legs doing on your dummy after a few more weeks of use? I bought a 140lb filled dummy from a different company and after the first week of good use, the lower legs collapsed forwards and backwards, so it could not stand up properly even with assistance. It looked very similar to the one you have with the stitching and arms. Great video though, I appreciate your reviews of products as I am considering buying the century version if you do not run into problems with it later on.
Could this be a good alternative to use for striking if you have nowhere to hang a bag? I mean for like kickboxing and muay thai?
We have one at the gym. I love it. Great for takedowns and ground and pound.
I was on the fence on getting one of these. Like you, I came from a decade or more of striking experience with limited grappling. With striking, it is so easy to take the fundamentals home and rep to refine, in bjj, there isn’t an equivalent. A dummy like this is probably with it just to give me those reps.
Yes I definitely needed this one. I seen that dummy an a BJJ dummy I been looking at
Let me know if you still have any questions that I didn't answer in the video 👍
I am thinking of getting one for myself. I am about 5'8 and about 80kg and someone had recommended the 41kg dummy for me. Do you think I should get the 41kg or 54kg dummy?@@fighttips
I like the grappling dummy that can sit up.
You can work on different pins, submissions.
Reversals.
Obviously you gotta test your new ideas on a real person but it’s fun to play with.
Great video!
Glad to see you doing some grappling now, wish you would’ve done it a little with me when you were in LA 😂
Same, man! I still remember that ONE roll we had, though!
I love these for training positioning
What if you turn the gee upside down, from the front , get both arm in first then pull head forward as you pull the back of the gee over the head and it should fit. I have a Large, mines fit fine, but for smaller sizes I am unsure.
I would benefit from a grappling dummy because Folkstyle Wrestling was my first Martial Art. (3 years of it) After wrestling I bought a 40-60lb heavy bag because I was getting into Kickboxing. After I did a year of kickboxing I thought about doing MMA and combine wrestling and kickboxing but the problem was you can’t wrestle a hanging Heavy bag. There are no Arms to grab, there are no legs to hook, there’s no head to lock in place and then I had problems with takedowns because you can’t do a double leg without any legs or Hiptoss it because it’s hanging. I tried getting a family member to help me with grappling but the family members that can are too young or too old or to bulky/Tall/small and I don’t wanna hurt them and hurt myself with any cradles or Submissions and taken downs. I can’t scale a family member (meaning Level changing and getting lower than my opponent or holding them in place couldn’t workout) because they’re weight and size is different than mine! Everything is a mess, so If bought a dummy bag i could complete those two tasks of fighting it standing and taking it to the ground.
So I felt like getting a dummy bag would mean I could work at my own pace. Memorize my old ground movement and find new ways for takedowns and new ways for submissions/pins/locks/holds.
So Imma try to get one for Christmas to finish what I started as a MMA fighter just now getting used to Muay Thai and BJJ because of my wrestling and kickboxing background.
Also 9:36 Single Leg! And 9:42 Cradle
I train boxing and hurt my wrists often. What about wrestling or jiu-jitsu? Can I do it?
@@nangmangta yes but in wrestling your stance is southpaw not orthodox
In life your going to be using more grappling than striking. Because people usually grab their opponent not hit their opponent because it’s easier to grab than strike your opponent. If you learn wrestling and someone takes you to the ground or hits you onto the ground they gave you an advantage because YOUR USED TO THE GROUND. So to a wrestler or BJJ fighter going to the ground doesn’t mean you lost, it means your at your most comfortable position and getting up is easier because you learned how to get up faster because of wrestling experience. A STRIKER ISN’T GOOD ON THE GROUND!!! Nobody can escape a cradle position because that isn’t something taught unless you know how to escape it from the ground same with submissions.
To me MMA is like playing rock paper scissors
Grappling is weaker standing and Striking is weaker on ground. Choosing what position you play depends on how well you were taught. You become unstoppable if you know both MMA
*To sum it up, yes! you can do both grappling and striking which will help you more down the line*
Can't wait for you to get better at grappling and eventually see BJJ videos on here!
Quick question, what kind of shoes do you have on here, are those wrestling shoes? Can they be used for boxing training as well?
Thanks!
Boxing and Wrestling shoes are interchangeable. Of course if you show up to a wrestling class with a kneehigh boxing shoe to wrestling you might get some looks but boxing shoes work for wrestling and wrestling shoes work for boxing. I don't know which ones he's wearing though sadly.
Some great wrestling shoe brands are Rudis, Funky Fresh (I think that's the name), and Adidas.
I use mine to memorise techniques I've learned in training.
Me too.
I’m saving up for The Grappling Smarty. I’m a 51 year old who values drilling. I need the reps!
I like that Shane is trying to expand
Wow, now I can tell people Sheila has just been my inflatable grappling dummy for years!
Yo i have a question do you reccomend working out with Full body 3 day Split or working Watch muscle 2 times a week or 1 time a week… which is more ideal for boxing
I got the I&I Corner Man years ago and still have it. In an apartment now so probably selling it but it was fun to get airborne and kick its head off. haha
Regarding shadow boxing when you kick your leg doesn't has anything to hit so your knee extends to the end.
Can that repeatitively cause knee pain or Damage, if so what to do avoid it??
Jendila Grappling dummies are one of the best canvas grappling dummies I have seen. The arms are longer than most generic grappling dummies. They are also very cheap. You do have to stuff them yourself but it's worth it.
I’m doing no gi bjj and was thinking about getting a special grappling dummy 2.0 or something around 100 dollars. Should I get it?
I have a dummy as well and it is a good investment but not that one. That's not really that good for bjj. I think you should get another one for jiu-jitsu. One that I have that I recommend is the grappling smarty or the submission master or the ring to cage I hear those are pretty good as well. I want to work on my standup I want to get one of those but the only issue I have is they don't stand up they always fall. I want a dummy that actually stands until you take it down to work on my wrestling and judo
Pretty much add-ons if you have heavy bag and gloves at home while training solo keeping those muscle memories constant work!
bought one during covid. turned out to be a good investment. if you're into throwing, you should get one.
Nice on Shane. Bjj guys especially are always knocking on these but i don't get it. We always used them for wrestling. Everyone did. And thats mainly what i do now to in my private gym with one similar to yours. Takedowns, suplexs, throws, conditioning and endurance. Etc.
But ground stuff and submissions, g&p and all that too and drilling techniques over and over. But ive got a different one for that and think youd qppreciate if you got too. One with the knees up above the hips and open and arms in the L shape , elbows in, with good hands and feet and a hump or whateverto indicate thumb or inkie direction, with an extended chin to get in under and all that. That smarty one i see right under this video is very similiar actually haha.
But yiu mught want to go abit lighter in that. Dead weights alot more sometimes than human eesisisting and moving in mount or whatever.
Anyway you know what youre doing. Good to see you coming along with the grappling.
@fight tips I love your work man but I’m a judo practitioner and I’ve mastered the shoulder throw shoot your hip out abit more and with the arm control try to squeeze the tripcep and turn ur head while throwing and let the magic happen
So this one was allready filled?? Do you know if they make delivery to Mexico?
Recommend the grapplingsmarty
Its the best grappling dummy for BJJ 🔥
Could it be use to practice self defence in the street ?
I bought one but how do you fill it if yk how to pls tell me 🙏🙏🙏
That’s crazy bro i was just thinking about getting one for Christmas and now here I am watching your video about “Are grappling dummies worth the invest?”😳
As long as you put it to good use and don't let it collect dust, I say it's absolutely worth the investment.
Thank you. I've been on the fence. I just moved from the city to the country. The biggest change im feeling is that the gym I found only teaches 2-3x/ week, and they jump into the gi during the winter. I have a NoGi/MMA base, and swear I can feel my skill level dropping.
I need more conditioning. That's my main focus.
Lol.
Yeah, I can understand I did bjj for 6 years boxing 10 judo 1 year and wrestling only 4 months.
Just started training at a proper mma, gym, and I'm finding my skills are going up fast with all the wall wrestling and take downs, and my jiu-jitsu game has gotten way better for mma just putting everything together and having real battle tested trainer's 👍
Maybe find /ask some training parenters if they would like to train with you .
Get some grappling Matt's and train in your garage.
I found a really high-level muay thai trainer who asked me I'd like to train with him at his garage gym because he worked the night shift .
@devriestown Yeah for rill. I feel like I'm getting way behind, but honestly there's alot of things I can do instead that will help me improve either way.
@devriestown That's cool. I actually just found a couple people to work with, and I'm pricing some decent mats for my work space.
@Damin-Danger-Ledford is definitely the way to go, man .
Be safe
I kinda want to get one of those now
Great for Judo!
I need to get me one of those no really it could be helpful for my martial arts throwing I've been throwing down before I think it's about time to live with the favor I just wish I could have stayed in karate and learn how to grovel and throw and take down any way to take out my opponent because I'm not going to get knocked out any more than usual 🥋👊😉👍🥋
Great video as a judo instructor it looks great my only advice to you is not to get into the habit of stepping back before the entry to the throw as you are telegraphing the move otherwise your techniques look good 👍
Do you offer any coaching/advice services?
Yes, I run a 10-week Kickboxing Program on magnvs.io where I post a new 60-min class everyday and hold 2 live streams a week.
You can register to test for your white belt now, and our next cycle of classes starts this weekend, November 25!
Sign up at Watch.magnvs.io, then you'll receive an email to sign up for team.magnvs.io, where you can RSVP under the events tab.
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How long have you been a white belt
I have the Fairtex dummy. I drill with it for hours. It really improved my technique because I can practice 24/7 at home and don't have to rush the techniques (because of class time limitations) like I would with a partner at the gym. I love it!
you should get the grappling smarty by effective martial art! its the best one out there!
How about the maddox fairtex 2? That looks good. I want to buy that one
Do they come any heavier than 120?
*_Hear me out..._*
does the dummy come pre-filled to maintain the weights its rated for? also is it available in Canada ? :)
It comes pre-stuffed, ready to go!
@@fighttips Thanks! i just need to find a Canadian reseller in Ontario
@@EvilTazzThey sell both prefilled and unfilled.
@@GrayMMA Thanks! definately looking for pre-filled, however ordering a pre-filled from the states is gunna be expensive! especially if its 120+lbs! need to find a reseller in Canada lol
I recommend a lighter for technical training. Heavy for conditioning.
how durable was the dummy?
Seems like Bob got a new friend
They're cousins
Thanks, I am considering getting a heavy one. Our club dummy is really only good for light drill rolling
🥝🇳🇿🥋
Grappling dummies are awesome. Me and mine just recently had a baby.
Do you recommend this for BJJ and Judo?
I recommend for Judo, for sure. You can't do everything ( Tai Otoshi is awkward, and most rolling sacrifice throws like Sumi Gaeshi and Tomoe Nage are next to impossible to hit on a fully upright dummy). However, you can Ippon Seoi Nage, Harai Goshi, and Ura Nage (Suplex) this thing straight through the crust of the earth as much as you want.
No no no this is not a grappling dummy, this is a wrestling dummy.....dude I love fight tips im your biggest fan come on man ...
You should try doing your arm bar the front and not falling back and dont use hands to hold wrist on the arm bar.
I’ve always wanted these for whenever I can’t go to training but my dad has always refused and calls it “gay.” 😭 I’ll get one eventually tho. Like always, great content Shane!
I heard Uriah Faber has a robotic dummy where you can snap the joints and everything
Thats expensive
@@vincebeastdiala6704 mans gotta make his money 😂
Ground and pound buddy. Hip toss friend.
I have a grappling dummy, my little brother!
I think it's a pretty good investment I'm able to go all out without actually killing my partners. So these practice dummys are good for working different techniques and see how effective they would be.
I own a couple. They are good for drilling and not to replace people. I got my standing dummy for 100 on offer up. Otherwise i wojldnt have got it.
I wanted to ask, what kind of shoes are those? I really do want to invest in some shoes for striking training.
Otomix
@@fighttips Perfect! Thank you so much and wonderful video as well!
Ive had one for years and my answer is: only if you have the proper real estate to match. These things are quite heavy and if you live in a flat you cant just throw that thing around. It would be loud as hell and maybe even ruin the flooring. So unless you have a garage or a gym for your own...you can hardly use it.
cool. thank shane.
You say you don't know grappling but that's some decent sub form
I loved doing basic combos, takedown, and leg locks. However, that mf would be heavy to flip over my shoulder 😂
Ordered it! Now I'll have SID and BoB! LOL
Amazing! The whole gang!
lol with me in the middle, we're the three stooges! LOL
Very good use as a pro wrestler
I made one with many cloth and duct tape. Is great.
When I was a kid i would tie off sweat pants and sweat shirts and stuff them and wrestle with them. Suplex off the coach like a boss
From my experience, if you got the storage space and will practice with it almost everyday then sure.
HOw is it with cuddling? LOL
most come unstuffed tho as to why there so cheap.mine is to light and nothing like sparring good for drills but not sparring
Bro you’re a blue belt with that technique man
My only regret was not getting it earlier
About 5'8" is really 5'7"
120 of dead weight is wild lol
$399? That's wild.
The problem with grappling is that from the bottom you can throwing elbows 90 degrees from the bottom in a street fight and get more leverage from that position. Half of grappling is training without striking or training with only certain strikes ... so I don't find much of it that practical
Once you roll with a blue belt or higher, you'll change your opinion
@@fighttips I have. It is based on 2 things. One is that once someone gets decent and is no longer grappling to win but just stall, then it gets tricky. Other aspect is when you add striking, it makes certain positions not practical.
If you bought a Human Harness you could set it up like an actual heavy bag XD
Make your own by stuffing a boiler suit with old clothes towels etc.
From a blue belt to a whitebelt better hit some competitions bro, best way to tell what works n what doesn't whn ur against someone who doesn't wanna tap to ur Kimura lol
Somewhere there's a niche market for _anatomically correct_ grappling dummies....
0:23 When you catch the mfr that plays shitt dubset during open mat