Jeff Pilson talks Dokken 80's Album Production | Interview

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • Jeff Pilson joins Jeremy in this exclusive chat about all things 80's production and how the Dokken albums were recorded and engineered.
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  • @tfrost33elkhunter
    @tfrost33elkhunter Рік тому +4

    As a lead guitarist I agree 100% with Jeff about not enough bass back then. I used to complain about that back in the 80’s.

  • @supernatural9r406
    @supernatural9r406 3 роки тому +22

    Great Interview.
    Jeff Pilson is such a cool down to Earth super Talented Musician. All my Respect .

    • @JeremyWhiteShow
      @JeremyWhiteShow  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you!!

    • @kellyanderson1262
      @kellyanderson1262 2 роки тому +1

      I'm suprized how intellectual the band members really are. I grew up with these guys really don't know what's going on. Guess what, I'm very happy,

    • @kellyanderson1262
      @kellyanderson1262 2 роки тому +3

      These guys are not stupid. They do know what's going on. I am impressed!!!

  • @jrock84ou812
    @jrock84ou812 3 роки тому +10

    Excellent man. When I was in high school like 2001 i was VH freak. My uncle puts on Under Lock and Key and Unchain the Night cranked in his car and I was like wtf is this?! Amazing!!!

  • @dokkengirljo6993
    @dokkengirljo6993 3 роки тому +17

    Jeff is a class act, a very underrated musician

    • @JeremyWhiteShow
      @JeremyWhiteShow  3 роки тому +3

      Absolutely!!

    • @c2jones
      @c2jones 2 роки тому +2

      And Jeff was the one that guided the Rock Star movie and was in the film himself.

    • @geruto17760
      @geruto17760 2 роки тому +1

      So true! Go and see him with Foreigner. An excellent show and Jeff seems to be having so much fun out there on the current 2022 tour.

    • @rfd73
      @rfd73 Рік тому +1

      Absolutely

    • @brianlittle9202
      @brianlittle9202 Рік тому

      I agree, Jeff is that multi talented utility guy every band should have. Kinda like Tommy Shaw. My band Opened for Dokken right after 911 at a bar near me called Annie's and I couldn't wait to meet George,Jeff and Mick. I heard Don was a dick so I didn't care about him but Jeff and George weren't in the band at the time.🤬 I was so disappointed but Mick was such a cool, funny, down to earth guy what a blast. Don lived up to his reputation and was too good to get off his bus or talk to anyone. They were there the whole day and he got off his bus to walk on stage at show time.

  • @jamescon55
    @jamescon55 7 місяців тому +1

    5:45 mark where Jeff says ,"Well, there WERE some great bass guitar sounds BACK then, you JUST DIDN'T/COULDN'T HEAR EM!" Lol... BEST quote of the whole interview IMO Lol. One of my biggest gripes too, about 95 percent of MOST 80s Hard Rock/METAL albums from that whole era. To this day, I am like "DID ANYONE actually play bass ON THIS ALBUM?!?" when returning to those Classics. Rock ON

  • @CLEARVIEW666
    @CLEARVIEW666 3 роки тому +6

    Big Fan of Jeff and his singing and playing. He makes Foregner sound and play better no doubt. He is the perfect guy to be a producer, chill but knows his stuff. Solid Interview Jeremy.

  • @kevinkaatz883
    @kevinkaatz883 2 роки тому +4

    Used to know both Jeff & his wife (Ravinder) independently from La Fitness ( Van Nuys & Sherman Oaks respectively). Great people, way cool, down to earth, which is why their marriage has endured.

  • @errorsofmodernism9715
    @errorsofmodernism9715 2 роки тому +6

    I would love to hear a new Dokken Album in any form if that were possible, interviewer is very good asking intelligent questions

  • @captainflamson
    @captainflamson 2 роки тому +2

    Jeff is an amazing producer! All the albums that he has produced sound amazing, Last in Line, End Machine...guitar, bass, drums, vocals all sound so good, Jeff and George have never sounded better(playing and tone), listen to Jimmy Bain on Heavy Crown, immense! The guitar tones, I totally agree with Jeff on this, yes they still use that old gear, but it's GOOD old gear and Jeff gets that sound recorded so you hear the natural tone, the actual amps and the wood of the guitars and bass, and the drums sound incredible!

  • @jaychuck1626
    @jaychuck1626 Рік тому +1

    PIlson is a great talent and no drama!

  • @stephensanchez9590
    @stephensanchez9590 9 місяців тому +1

    Great interview with a very cool and humble person always liked hearing interview with Jeff a very interesting musician

  • @lordofnesss
    @lordofnesss 3 роки тому +5

    Loved this one with Jeff !! Dokken is so amazing , George Lynch is a creative shredding beast ,all of 'em !!

  • @djx64
    @djx64 Рік тому +1

    I met Jeff on the first Night Ranger tour in the UK, was blown away with his talent, such a great guitarist / musician

  • @veronicafox399
    @veronicafox399 2 роки тому +2

    Loved how you asked about the.process involved with backing vocals! Always intrigued about who does what and how, when it comes to rock bands with strong harmonies & melodies.

  • @jgillettejukebox
    @jgillettejukebox 2 роки тому +1

    I met Jeff back in the day at Federated on Sunset BLVD. He was so cool. We went out to his pick up truck and I played him my demo tape. To this day I always think of how cool that was. Down the road I ended up signed a couple times. Never forgot that day

  • @nathanwalsh3028
    @nathanwalsh3028 2 роки тому +1

    As a drummer and a music geek, I love that you ask the geeky questions.🤓💯

  • @fivestring65ify
    @fivestring65ify 2 роки тому +1

    I have always admired Jeff. He's a great guy and killer musician. I have spent many hours practicing bass to Tooth and Nail, and Under Lock and Key. I learned a lot from Jeff's playing, and singing. The Hunter, and In My Dreams are the two I practiced with the most. Great stuff.

  • @godwillguideme.3773
    @godwillguideme.3773 2 роки тому +2

    Dysfunctional is my fave Dokken C.D. Saw them on Tooth And Nail with Hagar....Saw them on Under Lock and Key TOUR with Judas Priest. Saw them in the 90's a few times and in the 2000's saw them with Scorpions and Whitesnake....love Rokken with DOKKEN!

  • @JockeLundgrenTV
    @JockeLundgrenTV 3 роки тому +1

    Love all the Recording Questions! Thanks! ( Jeff is AWESOME ) 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @MrOctober44
    @MrOctober44 Рік тому +1

    Jeff is such a underated talent

  • @moparedtn
    @moparedtn 2 роки тому +2

    Artists would do well to try and talk the great Max Norman out of semi-retirement.
    That dude's mixing and production talent is top of the heap for the genre'.

  • @melovemusic69
    @melovemusic69 10 місяців тому

    Great interview. Some really great questions brother.

  • @Bernz66
    @Bernz66 2 роки тому +1

    Jeff is an awesome guy. Had a chance to talk to him when my band opened up for Foreigner…. He was nice and so dang cool……

  • @freegee3503
    @freegee3503 3 роки тому +4

    Back then you had to sing in tune, oh wow. -Jeff
    😄😆

  • @Mr.Scary5150
    @Mr.Scary5150 2 роки тому

    Best interviews ever! Great questions! Thank you so fuckin much

  • @donharrold1375
    @donharrold1375 Рік тому

    Jeff’s lucky - what a great setup!

  • @justinhayes7860
    @justinhayes7860 3 роки тому +1

    great stuff and good insight

  • @caspercotton
    @caspercotton Рік тому +1

    Great Interview. Can you interview Mick Brown?

  • @shahmirabdrahman5565
    @shahmirabdrahman5565 Рік тому

    Good interview Jeff pilson

  • @fanofthewylde2933
    @fanofthewylde2933 3 місяці тому

    The Dokken albums only need a couple things fixed and then they would be absolute perfection.
    1 Louder Bass guitar, not just added low end in an effort to beef it up because that never really fixes the problem or sound any good. I mean actually bring up the bass guitar track so we can here Jeff.
    2 Lengthening the fade out at the end of songs so we can hear just a bit more of their brilliance, like Lynch's outro solo in Burnin Like A Flame, his note choice as he was rippin was so good. Would be so awesome to hear more of that because he sounds like he was just getting going as it ends.
    I don't think anything else would need to be done to those records to make them perfect records.

  • @geruto17760
    @geruto17760 3 роки тому

    Great interviews with two guys really switched on.

  • @ColtAlvarez96
    @ColtAlvarez96 3 роки тому +1

    Favorite tracks are into the fire dream warrior and in my dreams

  • @kevinkaatz883
    @kevinkaatz883 Рік тому

    Alone Again is the best ballad I've ever heard. Sorry for gushing, but it's rightfully so

  • @jamesshelton6581
    @jamesshelton6581 Рік тому

    Jeff, whatever youre on, its damn obvious. I hope youre ok, love you man

  • @jonharvey8919
    @jonharvey8919 Рік тому

    Jeff pilson humble guy

  • @ridehead8771
    @ridehead8771 2 роки тому +1

    Listen to those early Firehouse records and the production is ridiculous lol

    • @ThomasLiberoRock
      @ThomasLiberoRock 2 роки тому

      Yes, such a shame… great songs but the mix is so hard to listen to!

  • @freegee3503
    @freegee3503 3 роки тому +1

    Great interview! I delivered room service to Jeff at the Double Tree hotel in Santa Clara back around 1988. He ordered a carafe of orange juice and had two very very fine women with him. 😉

    • @JeremyWhiteShow
      @JeremyWhiteShow  3 роки тому +1

      The good ol days! Haha

    • @bradfordmcdermott2063
      @bradfordmcdermott2063 Рік тому

      Cool wonder if they came by my dads work at Garden City Casino on Saratoga and kyile San Jose, Ca in the 80's. He was graveyard shift manager there. The 80's were the best in San Jose. Remember squeezers burger factory or pioneer chicken? Best strips and bbq sauce

  • @WineSippingCowboy
    @WineSippingCowboy 3 роки тому +2

    Michael Wagener produced the 1st Dokken album #40years ago! 🎂 He produced metal legends from his original band Accept to Ozzy. 🎸
    MW announced his retirement in April. He is 72. Happy retirement!
    The classic Dokken was part of the good old days! 😃
    I agree with you Jeremy: canon ball snare! 😃
    1 notable feat. Dokken is the only musical band to tame Freddie Kruger via Dream Warriors! L🤣L
    Bob Rock.should have produced Dokken. But BR was probably too much for the budget then. 😖
    Nice falsetto, Jeremy! 😃

  • @tfrost33elkhunter
    @tfrost33elkhunter Рік тому

    Also I think it would be cool to remix/master them under 1 condition! No new performance/overdubs. Take the original recording and just make it sound “better”

  • @sbrave
    @sbrave 2 роки тому

    Too bad they probably didn't record dry guitar DI for T&N. I never liked that tone, but really, what's the point of re-mixing? Jeff is the coolest.

  • @tubesoupio
    @tubesoupio 9 місяців тому

    Live from Scrotum Sound!

  • @am3986
    @am3986 2 роки тому +2

    Jeff is a great cat! no Jeff=no Dokken! George would have left the band by the third album and Jeff co-wrote some of the greatest hits. (If you ask Don he will say he wrote all the songs by himself). He should go out with George, sing lead, and bring along a well known drummer and become Dokkens' best cover band in the world.

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 Рік тому

      George and Don never give each other enough credit.

  • @kevinkaatz883
    @kevinkaatz883 Рік тому

    I love that band, seriously. I've been listening to nothing but for the past months. Glad I saw them at Monsters, LA Coliseum, 1988. Ha ha ha ha. In general, There need b Congressional Hearings as to why Dokken wasn't the headliner - especially when their songs were a trillion times better than 90% of the genre, especially bands like Twisted Sister (they're a joke, seriously). Even Aerosmith, Dokken has way better songs

    • @JeremyWhiteShow
      @JeremyWhiteShow  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching man! Please subscribe 🤘🏻

  • @randalclarke5487
    @randalclarke5487 2 роки тому

    Those 80s Metal albums and singles were mostly well-written but were nearly destroyed by overblown production and tons of digital reverb and tons of compression. Too bad they can't all be remixed

  • @surfsunsand
    @surfsunsand 2 роки тому +2

    Its shows how out of touch Jeff Pilson is with the youth and today. Jeff said he likes where the guitars are now and todays sound etc.. but the youth prefers the 80s. And thats why the Weekend just killed it at the awards. He should go and do all recording live because today is the same over kill digital produced cds that killed the 80s. Raw sound is always better. VH took over the 70s, Quiet Riot took over 83(80s), Nirvana took over the 80s/90s.

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 Рік тому

      I think that's fairly anecdotal to say the "youth of today" as if their was some poll done.

  • @damndirtyrandy7721
    @damndirtyrandy7721 Рік тому

    A good example of less is best is Motley Crue’s theatre of pain. As released, it is overpriced, too clean, too fancy and of course has weak material. Listen to the demo’s before the producer and label added their 2 cents worth and even atrocious tracks like Use It or Lose It are worth a listen every now and then. In fact, the same can be said for SATD… songs like Knock’em Dead Kid were originally so much rowdier, faster paced but through production they were cleaned up too much..
    I loved MC growing up, I’ve hated them for breaking their word on retirement, The much Mars thing, and of course backing tracks. Never will they make a dollar off me.

  • @MrMatthiasSchneider
    @MrMatthiasSchneider Рік тому

    I like Dokken by and large, but I can't listen to most of that old stuff because the production is awful: a) "washed out with reverb" as Jeremy said and b) they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on albums that sound like demos by today's standards. The only one that still sounds great is Back For The Attack, but that one unfortunately is mid-tempo purgatory with far too much filler in it.