Kalley Heiligenthal: Learning to Live After Heartbreaking Loss | Better Together TV
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- This week on Better Together, Kalley Heiligenthal shares her heartbreaking story about losing her daughter, Olive. Join the conversation as Laurie Crouch, Nicole C, Nicole Binion, and Beth Redman join Kalley Heiligenthal to discuss that God is the great counselor and healer.
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0:00 Intro
0:20 Grief & God
2:20 Grief & Worship
3:35 Broken Worship
4:31 Trusting Through Pain - Розваги
Thank you so much for your testimonies! Your stories comfort and help me to realize what's most important! Our Father God
This is so good! My husband died seven years ago leaving me with seven children at home. There were times of resentment; but when I sit/walk or commune with Jesus, He is better than all!
I pray God provides healing and financial help.
How did you make it, dear Sal? Family helping?
@@susannabonke8552 God promises to be a Father to the father-less and a husband to the widow. I lean on Jesus . I have a wonderful church family. I ask for prayer often. I need prayer now as I am going through something with one of my teenage sons.
@@sallyzielke6703 that's so precious..I am in Germany, divorced. I had to learn to leave my child in God's hands. He is faithful.
@@sallyzielke6703 your son will be guided with wisdom..in Jesus' Name.
When sweet Olive passed away it broke me. I cried. I got angry. I became afraid. So many things happened inside of me. But God….as I watched Kalley and her family walk through the grief I could not imagine, I changed. My heart. Mind. Soul. I changed. And then…my Dad died this year. And one of the first people that came to mind was Kalley and what they’ve lived. And I went to her Instagram and read the beautiful Jesus inspired words she wrote as she grieved the loss and began to heal. And, though I’m still working on getting to the place where I can not feel angry or betrayed etc etc etc, I am much further down that road of grief in a healthier way because of Kalley sharing their journey they’ve been traveling down the sharp and jagged road of grief and coming to the place where she can say “He is and will always be my and my family’s portion” in the face of it all. Thank you for letting me come along with you and your family Kalley. I don’t know it I would’ve made it this far without your help from afar.
Kalley said Jesus ‘used’ her two year old sudden death to wake up so many. Would Jesus really do this? Couldn’t He have used something else?”
It seems to give Him a bad name. God doesn’t use death to wake people up. He uses His word, His Holy Spirit and life doesn’t He?
So I was meant to be rejoicing in my victory, while this beautiful girl had died and a mother is grieving. “Yes hooray, I now know I’m victorious! Woohoo!”
Imagine if the whole thing had worked and I believed that I am victorious because of her sudden death, even today. With a big smile saying “Jesus used Olive’s death to wake me up, I am so happy” meanwhile Kalley pours out her grief on Instagram, making me feel absolutely terrible.
How can I possibly rejoice in my victory while she grieves and calls it a ‘tragedy’ yet also says the Father was ‘willing to do anything’ to bring back those He felt separated from’?
Apparently the Father felt the ‘searing ache of separation from ones He loves, longing to be close to His kids, willing to do anything to bring them back to Him’.
What a shocking claim to make! And I believed every word. Can you imagine the pressure I felt, ‘better wake up, look what’s happened!’ Better wake up, before it’s too late. That’s how I felt, cause I had been doubting my salvation and struggling mentally. If anyone needed an awakening to their victory in Christ, it was me. However I was already more spiritually awake than everyone in my town, if only I had known that.
And why did the awakening change meaning, from an awakening specifically for Olive to see her victoriously rise up from the dead - to an awakening of the church to believe they are victorious? The Bible already tells us we are victorious.
So it all came down to her name which apparently meant ‘victorious awakening’
Olive Alanye was her name.
An olive branch may ‘represent’ victory but that’s not what the name ‘Olive’ actually means! So Kalley was wrong from the beginning about what the name even meant! And deceived millions!
@@732doglover it's a narcissistic Christianity. Only Jesus brings change. On point
Wow! Everything about her shouts WORSHIP! Painful story but Beautiful testimony! #ButGod #WorshippersHeart💗💓
I remember how intense worship became because she choose to worship through it! I was grateful being at Bethel school at that time! Thank you for your sacrifice
My heart and my flesh may fail but God my Father is my strength and portion. Beautiful testimony of going through such a deep loss and still experiencing the presence of Jesus 💕
My cousin died from complications due to attempted suicide. I learned at her funeral that she called a pastor in the hospital and recommitted to God. However, she died and I miss her so much. Along with the many persons that have died in my country from the pandemic, I am so glad to have watched this tonight. I soul has been encouraged
"HIS near-ness has come in; even not to fix it, but to be there..."❤❤🙏
Oh wow I needed to hear this today. Dealing with the pain still of my miscarriage from last year, but Jesus. Thank you Kalley for sharing your faith in Jesus.
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It can hurt so bad! The great thing is that none is lost. One day, you'll get to meet your child that you lost through miscarriage. You'll see your child again in Heaven. Everything's going to be alright! 😭😢🤗💙
@@realprincessmay yes..the little ones are alive from the Vers beginning so god takes good Care of them.. They play and eat and rejoice on a meadow full of the allsuffient presence of the father. Omg what Beauty.
Our pain is God's treasure as we learn to trust Him 🙌
You are so beautiful and admirable to share something so sacred with us. May God continue to strengthen you and bless you with His grace!!!! God bless you all watching 🙏🏽
How can we keep from singing?
I love her transparency...and her daughter's name, I use to use it as a knock knock joke...
Knock knock
Who's there?
Olive.
Olive who?
I love you💕🙏
Your daughter now intercedes for you from heaven at a level we can’t fully understand ❤😊
She has such a beautiful spirit about her .
She seems like someone you can easily relate and open up to.
So grateful for the message.
God bless 💕
I think she is soft and Open because she let god heal the wound, not gerting bitter.
@@susannabonke8552 Amen. He does indeed heal our emotional and spiritual wounds when we allow Him to and give Him time to:
"And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written:
"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
To preach the acceptable year of the Lord"
I was deeply affected by Olive’s death but I should never have let it affect me, cause it ruined my life. And for those who were positively affected by it - how can you possibly rejoice in your own victory and say “God woke me up”while a mother grieves and a poor girl’s life was taken? And I love Jesus more than you will ever know!!
I believed every word Kalley said and I looked up to her as someone so close to my beloved Lord Jesus.
Kalley said Jesus ‘used’ her two year old sudden death to wake up so many.
Imagine someone down the street saying; “Jesus used a two year old’s sudden death to wake me up to my victory, I am just so happy”
My response would be “Couldn’t He have used something else?”
It seems to give Him a bad name. God doesn’t use death to wake people up. He uses His word, His Holy Spirit and life doesn’t He?
So you’re rejoicing in your victory, while this beautiful girl has died and a mother is grieving. “Yes hooray, I now know I’m victorious! Woohoo!”
Imagine if the whole thing had worked and I believed that I am victorious because of her sudden death, even today. With a big smile saying “Jesus used Olive’s death to wake me up, I am so happy” meanwhile Kalley pours out her grief on Instagram, making me feel absolutely terrible.
How can I possibly rejoice in my victory while she grieves and calls it a ‘tragedy’ yet also says the Father was ‘willing to do anything’ to bring back those He felt separated from’?
Apparently the Father felt the ‘searing ache of separation from ones He loves, longing to be close to His kids, willing to do anything to bring them back to Him’.
What a shocking claim to make! And I believed every word. Can you imagine the pressure I felt, ‘better wake up, look what’s happened!’ Better wake up, before it’s too late. That’s how I felt, cause I had been doubting my salvation and struggling mentally. If anyone needed an awakening to their victory in Christ, it was me. However I was already more spiritually awake than everyone in my town, if only I had known that.
And why did the awakening change meaning, from an awakening specifically for Olive to see her victoriously rise up from the dead - to an awakening of the church to believe they are victorious? The Bible already tells us we are victorious.
So it all came down to her name which apparently meant ‘victorious awakening’
Olive Alanye was her name.
An olive branch may ‘represent’ victory but that’s not what the name ‘Olive’ actually means! So Kalley was wrong from the beginning about what the name even meant! And deceived millions!
Alayne can mean ‘awakening’ but Olive does not mean ‘victorious’.
I forgive and love Kalley and hope people will truly wake up to this deception.
Kalley, I love the way you express your love toward Jesus in the middle of your pain, grief. I relived my heart posture before Jesus when I lost my brother in 1995. You expressed my heart attitude toward Jesus well. Agony of the soul. We just have to trust Him where we can’t see Him. Jesus is my everything!
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I just love her yielded and surrendered spirit.....makes me wanna cry....may I reach that place ......
Kalley your voice is so needed and we are all honored to hear your faith!!!!
ANOINTED!!!! I feel her words! The Lord Himself is on them.
“The God of comfort “ Kalley ❤️
"Bring it all to Me." Hallelujah
This was beautiful to hear hope and faith. My daughter just passed 6 weeks ago an she is a twin an their 2nd birthday is tomorrow and I've been struggling but I have faith and hope but I'm just so sad when I can't see her or hear her anymore except through videos. I know inwill see her again but in this life right now I'm just so sad
You can really see the depths of her relationship with Jesus through the way she talks about Him
"it's in the hard places that He really shows Himself." So true.
You are the strength of my life Lord and my only portion
Amen
So Powerful.
Loved this! Bless you Kelly ❤😭🙌🏼
Kaleyyyyyyyyyy!!! It's so good to see you !!!
Wow! Amen. This was powerful 🙏
I love you, Kalley!! This WRECKED ME! Thank you for opening up & sharing ❤️
What a word💯
Wow! Beautiful words...poetic. Thank you Kalley!
Love this ❤️🙌🏿🙏🏾
Amen! This is goooood ❤️✨
Kalley girl, you are phenomenal! You’re so inspiring. To see this and to see you go through this with such power and through His Presence is amazing! Thank you for allowing us in to your story. God bless you momma!
Everytime I feel the word closing in I think of her story and strength fills me again . From faith to faith .
Wow! This is such a much needed testimony. God bless 🙏🏽
This is soo beautiful, the Love of God is sooo real
I think about Kalley all the time, God puts her on my heart often. Just to cover her in prayer. I can’t even imagine
I came across this some weeks ago. As I watched, tears came running down my face because of the pain I imagine she has endurer, but also for the beauty of tge truth if her words. Today, I watch this not at random, but because I went searching for it to remind me of the goodness of the Father as I get ready to lay my Mom to rest in two days. These tears are so personal. In this terrible, painful season, I am still so certain of the Lord's goodness and promise of seeing Mom one day. Thank you, Kalley.
God bless her
Wow she's a worrier 🙏🙌🙌🙌🙌😭😭😭PRAISE GOD
*warrior
I agree
love Kalley, don't know her but i love her expression, worship, writings. pray for her family on occasion while they are processing grief.
Oh my...what a moving...touching...testimony..thank you for such a blessing & reminding me how truly beautiful our Lord Jesus truly is x
Her testimony is so powerful God bless her and also bless her family. I’m glad she share her testimony. I’m sure it will help so many people. Praise the Lord.
TY 4 this. Finding comfort with the sharing ... as I found STRENGTH in Him last year when our family had to face the most challenging time of our lives when my eldest sister had to go through 3 hospitals & be confined for 77-days in d 3rd hospital (non-COVID case). A year aftr, she is still 'on the road' to recovery ... yet, we are THANKFUL 4 her progress. I know that she is His LIVING testimony, His MIRACLE ... 🙏🙌👆
I love this young woman. She is so genuine and pure in her worship and it makes me want to surrender everything to Him because He is worthy of it all no matter what!
Absolutely love Kalley & her transparency through the grieving has witnessed more than she knows. She wears her heart for Abba on the outside & holds nothing back! Love her!
Beautiful! 🥺 I used to always listen to the song she sang, Good Good Father on Repeat. Her sharing this brings me back to that song. I pray for her heart daily. My heart was grieved to hear she lost her daughter when she announced it. Painful, painful, but her explaining her growing depths with Jesus brings ALL the More Healing. Death on this side can hurt deep, But there is HOPE. Hope in the One who is the Resurrection and the Life. ♥️🙏🏾
I can remember the lady who taught me bible study, right miss Peggy she would be talking and crying all at the same time, and I could not understand why, but then you understand when God comes near, and you can feel his loving presence right you can feel it, and nobody can ever take that away from you, then I found out why miss Peggy was crying and teaching and putting up with us, oh God be praised. And you just want to praise God because he is so selfless, and loving. Look he created us so that we might know him, think about that, out of no need at all of anything, he still created us to know him, knowing that we would fall astray.
I am so thankful to God that He has shown Himself to you in this tragedy. I prayed for you, your family, and church during the whole ordeal: the faith, expectancy, disappointment, slander, and grief. God triumphed over all… as you show in your abandon to the love of Your Daddy! God bless you and increase your ministry❤️❤️❤️
Yes Lord!!! Oh God I thank You! I felt that in my whole heart! God! My oldest brother died in March and Oh my very soul was wracked with grief like never before, oh BUT GOD!!! Hallelujah! God we worship YOU!
Powerful
This woman is beyond encouraging she’s spiritual ...I felt her closeness to Jesus x
Wow!
Yes Lord!!!✝️💕
Still so heartbreaking ❤️🩹
Beautiful 🔥✝️🔥 A Pleasing Aroma to the Throne of Heaven Myrrh, Cassia, Cinnamon, and Calamus! Christ Jesus we Thank You. 🙏🏾
Jesus. Heavy Word!
The sacrifice of praise! Lord! To praise Him even though....Though You slay me YET, I TRUST YOU!!!
The pain of losing a child my God!
Kalley 💜💜💜
Olive is such a beautiful name 😥❤
My Grandma was called Olive
I did not know Kalley & family ,Had a Child go to Heaven . Father GOD Greatest Blessings
the healing oil of His Presence!
I am so sorry, Kalley.
Thank you for sharing your heart.
May God comfort you and your family over the death of your daughter. In Jesus' name I ask, amen.
Beautiful and encouraging testimony. Wat helped me wen i Lost my son daughter inlaw and my 3 year old grandchild was Worship.the days i couldn't pray or read the word of God.But But Just Say HIS Name JESUS...ITS HARD AS PARENTS TO BURY OUR BBYS .
Poppy I try to worship but it's hard. I lost my daughter 1/24/2021. It hurts so bad. God I believe but help me with my unbelief.
@@grundiallenphd75 Iam so sorry 4 ur loss i know this pain its not easy as a parent ..Even if u cant worship or praise God just listen to worship songs that will help u lift ur spirit up...even if u cant pray JUST Say His Name JESUS CHRIST. I pray in the MIGHTY NAME of Our LORD JESUS CHRIST that U WILL FIND PEACE STRENTH IN OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST...ONLY GOD CAN HELP US IN THIS TIME...ITS OUR LOSS BUT HEAVENS GAIN....HEAVEN NEEDED ANOTHER ANGEL ...SHE IS UR ANGEL....ONE DAY AT A TIME..
@@poppygovender1423 My Sister in Christ Thank you. At the end of the or at the end of it all God is SOVEREIGN. Either we are going to trust God 💯 or we will continue to suffer willingly. I am choosing to put on the WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD AND TRUST AND OBEY UNTIL I SEE JESUS. Until then I/we have work to do Until we return home or God returns. JOURNEY WELL MY SISTER!
omitted a couple of words (day and WORD)
Hope this makes sense
GOD'S WORD
AMEN 🙏 AMEN
O Kalley, I've prayed for you, cried for you and wondered how you are doing all this time and here you are. Jesus led me to this site to see you thriving in His goodness and strength. O praise you, Jesus!
Much love to you!
Gift.😇
Amen 💕💕💕
♥️♥️♥️
Thank you for sharing. It's very hard as parents losing a child. What would we do without Jesus carrying us through.
♥️
But Jesus! Yes amen . 🙌🏻🙏🏻❤️
Podrán poner la entrevista traducida al español?
💔 to 💓by God's grace 💓🕊️💐
🙏❤🙌🙏
🥺😢🙏🏽🙌🏾
My husband as left this earth on the 13th of October 2021 to be with our heavenly Father, even though my heart is in pain, I know my husband has no more pain or sickness he is healed from head to toe, he is now praising, worshipping and all the joy is overflowing in him for our God, by His side my husband sits, our Creator our Provider our Comforter our Love Jesus Christ and that makes my heart whole, because I know the day we excepted Jesus Christ as our Saviour we became more than conquerors, my husband has conquered death, so death where is your sting, because my husband is living now more than ever!! I have Jesus in my heart I have the Holy Spirit with me for guidance and keeping the Good Faith in the Lord I will get to see Jesus and my beloved husband and all my loved ones!! For this all the Praise and Glory goes only to my God Hallelujah!! I will keep on walking by faith and not by sight because this earth is only temporary and the life after this is eternal and are you ready because I know I am!❤
I prayed for Olive to be resurrected. 🙏
Sweet Jesus
God saying Bring it all to me
Revelation 16: 15
I was deeply affected by Olive’s sudden death but I should never have let it affect me cause it ruined my life. And for those who were positively affected by it - how can you possibly rejoice in your own victory and say “God woke me up” while a mother grieves and a poor girl’s life was taken? And I love Jesus more than you will ever know!!
I believed every word Kalley said and I looked up to her as someone so close to my beloved Lord Jesus.
Kalley said Jesus ‘used’ her two year old sudden death to wake up so many.
Imagine someone down the street saying; “Jesus used a two year old’s sudden death to wake me up to my victory, I am just so happy”
My response would be “Couldn’t He have used something else?”
It seems to give Him a bad name. God doesn’t use death to wake people up. He uses His word, His Holy Spirit and life doesn’t He?
So you’re rejoicing in your victory, while this beautiful girl has died and a mother is grieving. “Yes hooray, I now know I’m victorious! Woohoo!”
Imagine if the whole thing had worked and I believed that I am victorious because of her sudden death, even today. With a big smile saying “Jesus used Olive’s death to wake me up, I am so happy” meanwhile Kalley pours out her grief on Instagram, making me feel absolutely terrible.
How can I possibly rejoice in my victory while she grieves and calls it a ‘tragedy’ yet also says the Father was ‘willing to do anything’ to bring back those He felt separated from’?
Apparently the Father felt the ‘searing ache of separation from ones He loves, longing to be close to His kids, willing to do anything to bring them back to Him’.
What a shocking claim to make! And I believed every word. Can you imagine the pressure I felt, ‘better wake up, look what’s happened!’ Better wake up, before it’s too late. That’s how I felt, cause I had been doubting my salvation and struggling mentally. If anyone needed an awakening to their victory in Christ, it was me. However I was already more spiritually awake than everyone in my town, if only I had known that.
And why did the awakening change meaning, from an awakening specifically for Olive to see her victoriously rise up from the dead - to an awakening of the church to believe they are victorious? The Bible already tells us we are victorious.
So it all came down to her name which apparently meant ‘victorious awakening’
Olive Alanye was her name.
An olive branch may ‘represent’ victory but that’s not what the name ‘Olive’ actually means! So Kalley was wrong from the beginning about what the name even meant! And deceived millions!
Alayne can mean ‘awakening’ but Olive does not mean ‘victorious’. It comes from ‘Olive tree’.
And Jesus would command dead people to be raised with one word, I totally believe Olive could have been raised.
Where in the Bible does it say to hold a worship service to raise a child?
I actually believed Olive died to help me and save my life as I had been struggling severely mentally and wanted my own life to end. I believe God was wanting to wake me up. And I got the breakthrough power in my bedroom. I believe the victory anointing came from this worship that went up. However, why was some worship in America connected to my breakthrough in Scotland? Jesus wanted to rescue me, and maybe my breakthrough had nothing to do with this worship that went up. God is able to do miracles whenever He wants. But if it was connected - that breakthrough saved my life that morning, so I believed if it wasn’t for Olive dying, I might not have been rescued that morning, so God took her home for me.
Now there was the tremendous amount of guilt I had to live with, thinking that she died to help me and thinking that Olive’s mother would be mad at me for believing it.
Yet maybe I really was worth it. Maybe Jesus did take Olive home for me. Sadly as Kalley poured out her grief, it was too much and my belief caught up with me and I ended up suffering one of the most severe spiritual attacks in history.
After two years of hell, God is only just starting to restore my hope again in 2022 and I have heard from Jesus again. I never stopped running back to Him, seeking Him, pursuing Him, going to Christian meetings and even back to church and joining the worship band.
I truly hope that I can still make heaven in this broken spiritual state. I’ve never stopped loving Jesus, pursuing Him, serving Him, desiring Him and believing His blood alone is sufficient. I was born again at a young age and have loved purity and holiness and always loved everyone and God first and still do.
This all happened completely against my will. I hope Bethel and Kalley will say sorry but even sorry is not enough to heal the damage.
Because I am a sincere and genuine Christian, I have forgiven Kalley and Bethel church. I even bless her and hope for the best for her life.
I’m asking You Lord Jesus to completely heal all the damage and take me to Heaven in Your timing because You are faithful when we are faithless. I want to be saved more than anything. I’m sorry for doubting salvation, believing and trusting in Your Word alone would have sorted that though, not a child’s sudden death
Please know, God did not need to take Olive because He felt separated from her. This notion is untrue and impossible. There is nothing that can separate us from God while we walk this earth. Also, God did use death to wake us all up already. He had his Son nailed to a tree to slowly suffocate to death.
Grief is not evil or bad, it’s actually a very holy place to be so please try to rethink your notion of pity towards it. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about the goal for the Christian life is to be “happy.” Happiness is just a feeling or chemical reaction that occurs in the brain from a stimulus. Just as attraction is a feeling or chemical reaction in one’s brain. However love, love is a choice, love is sacrifice, love is unconditional, love is hard work and love is the reason we’re all on this planet. To love each other as God loves us.
And then there is joy. The love I mentioned above produces this abundantly! So does grief and suffering of all kinds.
You see, it does something very powerful. It brings us face to face with the divine and the holy.
Thank you, Kalley, for showing us clearly that Pentecostal appeals to God for bible-like miracles are a waste of time & faith.
What she has suffered is being deceived by a manipulative church who is only out for themselves. Instead of comforting this family they made a spectacle of her death. It's so sad that they are still under Bethel's spell.
K
Jesus did not die and resurrect so you could see Olive again.
Jesus died and was resurrected because you are a sinner.
I believe the intent of her words was to say that as a result of Jesus’s sacrifice, she will see her daughter again! Obviously she knows Jesus didn’t die with that single thing on His mind.