Bravo sir. I knew there had to be something wrong with the joex knife. It couldn't Pierce for piss and broke so easily. Also, there is on UA-cam a land surveyor who said he's been beating the hell out of this knife for years and even showed him hitting it Hammers and even sledgehammers that he said and it just kept on trucking. You have restored my faith in this knife thank you.
I got the bk19 off ebay advertised as the original from a us seller and has the USA stamp. However I learned through research that all models past 2021 do not come with the USA stamp on them. The bk19 was introduced in the 2023 knife/ blade show...😢 I'm so sad I got scammed and I paid 80 dollars for it. I'm trying to return it now.
@mina5es Yep , they don't stamp them anymore . If they use German steel they won't stamp the U.S.A on them. I was totally shocked by this and hardly anyone knows that they switched steel makers. It's sad that U.S steel is to expensive or not available anymore.
Looks like a really nice knife. The good thing however about being in Finland is they make really good knives here too and the Chinese haven't started to rip the designs off much yet to any great extent.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft I gather that Martinni are having their knives "Made in Estonia". I also gather that in many such instances the words "from foreign and domestic components" are not legally required. So it might be a simple matter to have blades, handles, sheaths and cardboard packaging all manufactured in the "Far East" then shipped to Estonia to be "Made". I'm not claiming this is happening with any Finnish brands but I'd bet my eye teeth there's more than one US knife company doing something along the lines. I know that this is how both Harley Davidson and Zero have their motorcycles "Made in the USA". Perhaps it started with manufacting Lego in China. Now anything can be a Lego kit made in China. Alhambra guitars was one I heard about back in Spain when I visited the factory. They have components made in China, such as one part that is a lot like a guitar without any lacquer. They spray on the polyurethane at the factory in Valencia, and glue in the label with "Made in Spain" before installing the tuners and strings.
@@dongkhamet1351 some of Marttiini's folders are made in China. The fixed blades are now made in Estonia with French and German made blades. The company itself is now based in the south rather than it's place of origin wich is Rovaniemi here in Lapland. There axes are made in Italy (probably by Prandi, they look like Prandi axes to me at least). The company now belongs to Rapala I believe. It's all very complicated
I appreciate the info! What did you use to remove the black coating? I have 2 and would love to strip one. I love the look of yours! Thanks for the consideration!👍
@jamesvaccaro4250 Walmart has a spray on paint remover that works the best. There is also a gel like stuff. I think the name is Janko . Both work but ya gotta let it sit and do its job . Don't use an abrasive brush cause you will scratch the steel. Use nylon brushes to clean off the little bits . There's a lot of vids here on youtube...Blackhawk bushcraft just did his coldsteel SRK that would be a good tutorial to watch.
i have this knife and did the same to mine, removed finish and same scales. i have the tan version, are you saying joe x tested a fake one and didn't know it?
He commented and said his wasn't fake . .. I tried to explain the signs to look for. I don't think he would have known and he bought it from a well known store . I just feel like he possibly thinks I'm accusing him but I was really just trying to share my thoughts. It should say USA and the paint shouldn't peel away . I like his channel and ain't trying to start problems . The knife community needs to watch for this crap cause even well known channels amd companies get screwed over.
@johnnygunny1 The first release of these knives from kabar had the USA markings . But now their site shows them with no USA... That's absolutely confusing , makes no sense. The only way you can tell now is by the powder coating, I guess 🤷
@johnnygunny1 Yep , Kabar stopped the USA Stamp in 2021 . So now all the fake ones being made say USA on them. They are using German steel now, so they removed the USA stamp. My early version is a Kabar Becker , I received the info after making the vid. I need to make another one cause so many people have no clue. But Kabar gives me no money, nor do I get paid on YT, so I'm a bit slow on caring 😏 I'd be very cautious buying any Becker or Kabar knife anymore.
i think maybe you got it wrong, i think the newer ones dont have USA on them and they dont use powder coating cause of the traction(many people complained about it). i dont know i might be wrong will update if i have anymore info
@dongkhamet1351 Nope no plot, he believes his knife was legit. All I can do is offer my opinion show what I know and move on. Im just a wee little hobbiest making videos to keep me on the sane side of life. Sounds good man , I'll check it out .
@@airiksknifereviews9548 from my perspective the plot thickens because I follow Joe X's work with great interest and appreciation and it had not occurred to me that something like this might happen to him. Asides from being a cautionary tale, as you emphasize, it's messed up that test reviews like this might be giving a lot of people a false impression regarding thethe real-deal product. Peterbilt Knife Guy also recently highlighted a test by a veteran knife reviewer who allegedly never realized his ZT fixed blade is a clone and gave it a very positive review!
@eugeniovaldez7205 Mine is an early original release just like Gideon Tacticals Vid. Kabar was adding USA and then stopped, I don't know why they stopped stamping USA. People will have to check the dates or code number cause the market is full of fakes now. I can make another video cause people seem offended or understandably confused. All I'm getting at is there are tons of fakes and the main tell is the powder coating. It's baked on and probably more expensive to do. I'm guessing the fake ones lose their stamping if you strip the coating, cause it's most likely not laser printed. I don't get paid to make vids I'm just doing my best to help knife lovers out. If ya look at other early vid reviews the USA stamp was on both the knife and sheaths .
@@airiksknifereviews9548 you are right! I checked the earlier versions ( green box) and those have the USA logo. Looks like the newer version don’t have them.
@eugeniovaldez7205 Kabar switched in 2021 to German steel. Our Kabars and Becker blades are no longer USA steel. I'm very bummed to hear this info. ...Not saying the steel is bad but I liked the 1095hc Crovan. Government codes made them have to remove the USA stamping. Freaking sucks, and their prices have went up substantially. They aint gonna survive if things don't change in this country.
@@airiksknifereviews9548- this is very disappointing. My guess is Joe x got one of these newer steels and they are crap compared to the older 1095 bk18 with USA on them. The sad thing is I just purchased a red liner KaBar and a BK76 in Magnacut from their custom shop ($500+). I hope they are the real deal.. this knife stuff is depressing sometimes. Thanks for the info on the steel. I think this retired Marine is done with KaBar. God Bless Brother!
I live in Korea and I bought this knife. I am very confused. I bought a product from the official importer of ka bar in Korea. It's powder painting. When I removed the paint with a paint remover, the text is engraved on the iron plate. But it doesn't react to the Birchwood cold blowing solution. Like stainless steel. I'm very confused whether what I bought is fake or original.
@chancethe9374 You probably have an original. I am going to update this video soon. Kabar has switched steel suppliers so in 2021 they stopped the usa stamp. The steel is coming from Europe I believe it's German steel but built in the USA. I'm not sure how I feel about this after receiving the email. The steel is good BUT it's no longer the same stuff that we're used too.
@@airiksknifereviews9548 I was thinking they were seconds but then Kabar would have offered them at a discount. My guess is that the people of temu are damn good at it, cuz everyone who's tested the rip offs are saying that they're pretty much the same thing.
@morganblackheart9468 They stopped in 2021 its German steel now. So kabar Becker is no longer able to stamp USA on their knives. Don't sell your USA stamped blades 😒looks like another USA company can't stay productive in this current economy.
Bravo sir. I knew there had to be something wrong with the joex knife. It couldn't Pierce for piss and broke so easily. Also, there is on UA-cam a land surveyor who said he's been beating the hell out of this knife for years and even showed him hitting it Hammers and even sledgehammers that he said and it just kept on trucking. You have restored my faith in this knife thank you.
I got the bk19 off ebay advertised as the original from a us seller and has the USA stamp. However I learned through research that all models past 2021 do not come with the USA stamp on them. The bk19 was introduced in the 2023 knife/ blade show...😢 I'm so sad I got scammed and I paid 80 dollars for it. I'm trying to return it now.
@mina5es Yep , they don't stamp them anymore . If they use German steel they won't stamp the U.S.A on them. I was totally shocked by this and hardly anyone knows that they switched steel makers.
It's sad that U.S steel is to expensive or not available anymore.
Looks like a really nice knife. The good thing however about being in Finland is they make really good knives here too and the Chinese haven't started to rip the designs off much yet to any great extent.
@@KuukkeliBushcraft I gather that Martinni are having their knives "Made in Estonia".
I also gather that in many such instances the words "from foreign and domestic components" are not legally required. So it might be a simple matter to have blades, handles, sheaths and cardboard packaging all manufactured in the "Far East" then shipped to Estonia to be "Made".
I'm not claiming this is happening with any Finnish brands but I'd bet my eye teeth there's more than one US knife company doing something along the lines.
I know that this is how both Harley Davidson and Zero have their motorcycles "Made in the USA".
Perhaps it started with manufacting Lego in China. Now anything can be a Lego kit made in China.
Alhambra guitars was one I heard about back in Spain when I visited the factory. They have components made in China, such as one part that is a lot like a guitar without any lacquer. They spray on the polyurethane at the factory in Valencia, and glue in the label with "Made in Spain" before installing the tuners and strings.
@@dongkhamet1351 some of Marttiini's folders are made in China. The fixed blades are now made in Estonia with French and German made blades. The company itself is now based in the south rather than it's place of origin wich is Rovaniemi here in Lapland. There axes are made in Italy (probably by Prandi, they look like Prandi axes to me at least). The company now belongs to Rapala I believe. It's all very complicated
@@KuukkeliBushcraft Thank you for setting the record straight with this comprehensive summary!
Good looking out! Thanks for the video.
I appreciate the info! What did you use to remove the black coating? I have 2 and would love to strip one. I love the look of yours! Thanks for the consideration!👍
@jamesvaccaro4250 Walmart has a spray on paint remover that works the best. There is also a gel like stuff. I think the name is Janko . Both work but ya gotta let it sit and do its job . Don't use an abrasive brush cause you will scratch the steel. Use nylon brushes to clean off the little bits . There's a lot of vids here on youtube...Blackhawk bushcraft just did his coldsteel SRK that would be a good tutorial to watch.
i have this knife and did the same to mine, removed finish and same scales. i have the tan version, are you saying joe x tested a fake one and didn't know it?
i just got to the end of your video. good stuff!
He commented and said his wasn't fake . ..
I tried to explain the signs to look for. I don't think he would have known and he bought it from a well known store .
I just feel like he possibly thinks I'm accusing him but I was really just trying to share my thoughts.
It should say USA and the paint shouldn't peel away .
I like his channel and ain't trying to start problems .
The knife community needs to watch for this crap cause even well known channels amd companies get screwed over.
@@airiksknifereviews9548I believe yours is the fake one, USA is not on the nimrods or blade hq
I just bought one on temu for 20bucks that said USA on it , and the one I got from Nimrods for 100bones without USA
@johnnygunny1 The first release of these knives from kabar had the USA markings . But now their site shows them with no USA...
That's absolutely confusing , makes no sense.
The only way you can tell now is by the powder coating, I guess 🤷
Just got one from temu with USA on it seems like a decent knife 20 bucks as well
@johnnygunny1 Yep , Kabar stopped the USA Stamp in 2021 . So now all the fake ones being made say USA on them.
They are using German steel now, so they removed the USA stamp. My early version is a Kabar Becker , I received the info after making the vid.
I need to make another one cause so many people have no clue.
But Kabar gives me no money, nor do I get paid on YT, so I'm a bit slow on caring 😏
I'd be very cautious buying any Becker or Kabar knife anymore.
i think maybe you got it wrong, i think the newer ones dont have USA on them and they dont use powder coating cause of the traction(many people complained about it). i dont know i might be wrong will update if i have anymore info
@user-lf7by3bd7z Kabar stopped printing usa in 2021. Their steel is not usa made anymore but swiss steel.
@@airiksknifereviews9548 thanks for the info
So Joe X may have destruction tested a clone. The plot thickens!
Your blade is about ready. I will make a wee video to showcase.
@dongkhamet1351 Nope no plot, he believes his knife was legit. All I can do is offer my opinion show what I know and move on.
Im just a wee little hobbiest making videos to keep me on the sane side of life.
Sounds good man , I'll check it out .
@@airiksknifereviews9548 from my perspective the plot thickens because I follow Joe X's work with great interest and appreciation and it had not occurred to me that something like this might happen to him. Asides from being a cautionary tale, as you emphasize, it's messed up that test reviews like this might be giving a lot of people a false impression regarding thethe real-deal product.
Peterbilt Knife Guy also recently highlighted a test by a veteran knife reviewer who allegedly never realized his ZT fixed blade is a clone and gave it a very positive review!
@@airiksknifereviews9548- Joe x knife was real…please see my Counterfeit Clarification comment in main thread.
It looks like the one you have it’s a clone. The USA version is what you get from Temu. The ones from reputable vendors don’t have the USA after NY
@eugeniovaldez7205 Mine is an early original release just like Gideon Tacticals Vid. Kabar was adding USA and then stopped, I don't know why they stopped stamping USA. People will have to check the dates or code number cause the market is full of fakes now.
I can make another video cause people seem offended or understandably confused.
All I'm getting at is there are tons of fakes and the main tell is the powder coating. It's baked on and probably more expensive to do.
I'm guessing the fake ones lose their stamping if you strip the coating, cause it's most likely not laser printed.
I don't get paid to make vids I'm just doing my best to help knife lovers out.
If ya look at other early vid reviews the USA stamp was on both the knife and sheaths .
@@airiksknifereviews9548 you are right! I checked the earlier versions ( green box) and those have the USA logo. Looks like the newer version don’t have them.
@eugeniovaldez7205 Kabar switched in 2021 to German steel.
Our Kabars and Becker blades are no longer USA steel. I'm very bummed to hear this info. ...Not saying the steel is bad but I liked the 1095hc Crovan.
Government codes made them have to remove the USA stamping.
Freaking sucks, and their prices have went up substantially.
They aint gonna survive if things don't change in this country.
@@airiksknifereviews9548- this is very disappointing. My guess is Joe x got one of these newer steels and they are crap compared to the older 1095 bk18 with USA on them. The sad thing is I just purchased a red liner KaBar and a BK76 in Magnacut from their custom shop ($500+). I hope they are the real deal.. this knife stuff is depressing sometimes. Thanks for the info on the steel. I think this retired Marine is done with KaBar. God Bless Brother!
I live in Korea and I bought this knife. I am very confused. I bought a product from the official importer of ka bar in Korea. It's powder painting. When I removed the paint with a paint remover, the text is engraved on the iron plate. But it doesn't react to the Birchwood cold blowing solution. Like stainless steel. I'm very confused whether what I bought is fake or original.
@chancethe9374 You probably have an original. I am going to update this video soon. Kabar has switched steel suppliers so in 2021 they stopped the usa stamp. The steel is coming from Europe I believe it's German steel but built in the USA.
I'm not sure how I feel about this after receiving the email. The steel is good BUT it's no longer the same stuff that we're used too.
@@airiksknifereviews9548 The items sold in Korea are still engraved with usa. I don't know when they were produced. The Chinese are thieves.
My legit bk7 says USA right next to the NY
But I also bought it in 2018.
@morganblackheart9468 Yep , somewhere Kabar stopped why, I do not know?
It's a big mess..I might send an email and find out the facts.
@@airiksknifereviews9548 I was thinking they were seconds but then Kabar would have offered them at a discount.
My guess is that the people of temu are damn good at it, cuz everyone who's tested the rip offs are saying that they're pretty much the same thing.
@morganblackheart9468 They stopped in 2021 its German steel now.
So kabar Becker is no longer able to stamp USA on their knives.
Don't sell your USA stamped blades 😒looks like another USA company can't stay productive in this current economy.
@@airiksknifereviews9548 that's sad :( and they're still super expensive. Mine was $80