Oh no, Ben... Saw in Half says "If that creature dies this way," and Dauthi Voidwalker replaces the creature dying with exiling it. The interaction game 1 to exile the Voidwalker doesn't work. What a weird ass interaction.
@@janmelantu7490 It's not that weird. There's lots of cards that do a thing, then say some variation of "if that thing happened, do this". Comes up a lot with cards that destroy or sacrifice stuff, then do something based on the amount or a quality of the things destroyed or sacrificed. This comes up not just with "exile on death" effects but Indestructible creatures too.
@@Mordalon I feel like normally the templating is something along the lines of "destroy x thing, if it was destroyed this way" not if it died. Usually the condition uses the same wording as the action that causes it, Saw in Half is kinda weird in the way it resolves.
I'm less than one minute into the video, and I love the Paul fanfare. Paul Saunders, you have been absolutely key to my enjoyment of LLR for at least a decade. Keep up the good work, you bloody genius!
He also didn't lose the die roll, so no change to his lucky percentage today 😂 We'll see if the luck goes with Wheeler, the right side of the table, or with Bens 😁👍 Ben needs to join in more, for science.
just two minor notices for game one: 1. Solitude cannot target itself. You have to choose another creature 2. The boseijued player searches their library for a land with a basic land type and not just for a basic land didn't affect the game. justed wanted to clarify
Minor Misplay - At about the 46 minute mark, when Serge completes the Initiative dungeon, he puts the 9 cards he doesnt play on the bottom of the deck. They should have been shuffled back in. :-)
That seems like an extremely intricate match-up: lots of creatures, lots of combat math, lots of removal to play around. Very interesting. Great episode!
A great episode as always LRR! Glad to see Ben throw his hat into the Canlander Gauntlet. Also Serge's hiccup/squeak at 51:59 was very Bloomburrow haha!
Finally the good Ben! (Mostly cuz I call the other one Wheeler lol). Loved your appearance on Shuffle up and Play. My wife loved the Speech Therapy reference, as that is what she is studying in graduate school
Endurance targeting Serge's own graveyard to stop a DRS activation is genius. Unrelated, today I learned that the DRS exiling cards isn't as a cost. What?!
Everything to the left of the colon in an activated ability is a cost. It's why you can't respond to Recurring Nightmare returning to the owner's hand, because as long as the opponent has priority, they can immediately pay all costs before their opponent gets priority to respond.
I LOVE Saw in Half, happy to see it getting a "normal" reprint, and happier even to see it make great plays and even win! Its *the* one card can never cut from my Meren EDH, even if its only purpose is "win more" in most situations.
After Ben was hit for 5+5 from initiative in game three putting him to 2 he should have been dead, he never lost the life from ancient tomb when he tapped it
Loved these games. It is really hard to play Magic for the camera. Serge's depth of format experience showed here. Also two Canlander players scrutinizing the game is very different than three with one of them being Ben Wheeler.
Great games! There was a error you both made when it came to resolving the Undercity's final room. You both put the revealed cards on the bottom of the deck, when it's supposed to be a shuffle.
22:50 there's no -domesticated- animals on Bloomburrow (that we've seen) so no canidae canis or felidae filidae, but plenty of opportunities for their wild counterparts. Also most of the wildlife is themed around North American wildlife, the PAcific Northwest while also including animals found in the British Isles and western Europe
Serges nightmare deck is much like his canlander angel deck. Pretty light on angels and nightmares 😂❤ In seriousness very happy to see Ben Ben playing canlander on stream again. Lots of fun!
Might not have mattered, but ben could have crunched in game 2 with the Solitude and the Illusion token and wither traded or taken the initiative and had a look at the top 10 for fury. Serge would have had 6 shadow with dauthi and Ben would have been out of trap range thanks to the life bump from Solitude. This is not a great line, but it does keep him alive for longer.
I really enjoyed Ben on this episode! I hope you take this as constructive criticism but I really feel like this series went down to how the two players handled rollbacks. Ben just rolled with the mistakes while Serge went with the "optimal choices for a good showcase" approach and while i understand both, i feel like setting a consistent policy between all of you would be a good improvement to the series.
Me looking at the thumbnail: "Serge's deck is an Abzan Nightmare, but what is he playing?"
Probably lands.
The amount of Bens on North 100 showdown has been doubled. If this keeps up, the show will be nothing but Bens in a year.
Serge "Ben" Yager
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Benjamin "Ben" Wheeler
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@@adanceinBenjamin “Ben “Wheeler” Wheeler” Wheeler
@@RLKC8Benjamin “Ben “”Ben” Wheeler” Wheeler” Wheeler
8 minutes in and IOKing a Wall of Runes was the right move?
I love this show.
Incredible how taking the Sol Ring would have turned on the delirium land, too. What a game.
Oh no, Ben... Saw in Half says "If that creature dies this way," and Dauthi Voidwalker replaces the creature dying with exiling it. The interaction game 1 to exile the Voidwalker doesn't work.
What a weird ass interaction.
Saw In Half, despite my love for it, is so fucking weird
@@janmelantu7490 It's not that weird. There's lots of cards that do a thing, then say some variation of "if that thing happened, do this". Comes up a lot with cards that destroy or sacrifice stuff, then do something based on the amount or a quality of the things destroyed or sacrificed. This comes up not just with "exile on death" effects but Indestructible creatures too.
@@Mordalonanyone who hasn't abused Darksteel Ingot + Hoard-Smelter Dragon hasn't truly lived.
Fuck void walker, all my homies hate voidwalker
@@Mordalon
I feel like normally the templating is something along the lines of "destroy x thing, if it was destroyed this way" not if it died. Usually the condition uses the same wording as the action that causes it, Saw in Half is kinda weird in the way it resolves.
A new challenger appears! I'm stoked. The more Canadians highlander throwing down, the better.
Ben from the tech desk:
"Brothers, may I have some can lander?"
Can Landör? 😿
"Mardu Design Mistakes" is such a good name for a deck, lol.
I'm less than one minute into the video, and I love the Paul fanfare. Paul Saunders, you have been absolutely key to my enjoyment of LLR for at least a decade. Keep up the good work, you bloody genius!
Nice! Glad to see more folks on to play North 100 Showdown, a Canadian Highlander throwdown.
1 hour 30 minutes of North 100 with a new Ben on base? And they are playing my two favorite decks? Today is a good day!
surely wheeler doesn't win the die roll this game
That’s the surprise twist
He also didn't lose the die roll, so no change to his lucky percentage today 😂 We'll see if the luck goes with Wheeler, the right side of the table, or with Bens 😁👍 Ben needs to join in more, for science.
He did!
I mean Ben won the die roll
@@Super-hb7ld Oh no, (mmHg, Chough. He did).
just two minor notices for game one:
1. Solitude cannot target itself. You have to choose another creature
2. The boseijued player searches their library for a land with a basic land type and not just for a basic land
didn't affect the game. justed wanted to clarify
Minor Misplay - At about the 46 minute mark, when Serge completes the Initiative dungeon, he puts the 9 cards he doesnt play on the bottom of the deck. They should have been shuffled back in. :-)
I was looking for this in the comments
I was literally just thinking "I sure would like to watch a new north100 showdown" low and behold!
That seems like an extremely intricate match-up: lots of creatures, lots of combat math, lots of removal to play around. Very interesting. Great episode!
Ragavan should have been exiled in game 1 and not shuffled back to the bottom with Endurance.
Ben was watching on tech and decided that he wanted in on the action. You love to see it.
Excellent, as always. Thank you!
I miss you on tech, but welcome to the show Ben!
A great episode as always LRR! Glad to see Ben throw his hat into the Canlander Gauntlet. Also Serge's hiccup/squeak at 51:59 was very Bloomburrow haha!
Got to see the full episode now, would love to see more Benben and Serge! Wonderful match
i believe in game 3 ben tapped ancient tomb without paying life to cast the duneoneer so he should have been dead to serge's attack
Yes, saw that too, but the end was very interesting, so happy about it 😊
Yeah; there were a whole slew of GRVs in this match. Oh well, it’s just for fun.
great games, fellas. Bengineering played great. Real honest tabletalk there at the end.
Thank you for having Ben, it's great for him to be here.
A new hand has touched the beacon
What a great set of games. Congrats to Ben for making it out from behind the tech booth
What a series!!! loved seeing ben ben come on North100, hope he comes back sometimes!!! :)
That was a fun one! :D
And nice to have Ben in front of the camera.
Small but important note for the final chapter of the initiative, you shuffle your library afterwards rather than putting the cards on the bottom.
No joke, love how Ben holds his cards. It allows me to kinda guess what he'll do in response to Serge.
Boseiju lets you find any land with a basic type, not just a basic land - you can get shocks, duals, and triomes!
Finally the good Ben! (Mostly cuz I call the other one Wheeler lol). Loved your appearance on Shuffle up and Play. My wife loved the Speech Therapy reference, as that is what she is studying in graduate school
BenBen is here!
"Saw in half" says "if that creature dies make two copies" the solitude doesn't die because of dauthy so would just stay in exile
Great to see Ben playing :)
BEN! So excited to see new challengers!
Boseiju gets a *land with a basic land type*.
Ben at the table? Let's go!!
That 2nd game was one of the best games in North 100 history. You guys both played to a T
Love Ben want to see more of him, but can we please get an Alex. I miss him so much
Endurance targeting Serge's own graveyard to stop a DRS activation is genius. Unrelated, today I learned that the DRS exiling cards isn't as a cost. What?!
It used to be a common stand-off in Legacy where two DRS would threaten each other.
It's because it has a target. Targets have to go on the stack so you can respond to them!
Everything to the left of the colon in an activated ability is a cost. It's why you can't respond to Recurring Nightmare returning to the owner's hand, because as long as the opponent has priority, they can immediately pay all costs before their opponent gets priority to respond.
Ben cut down that wall of blossoms like he’s the local HOA.
Ragavan not being in exile the first game was bugging me🤣
Ulmer? I barely know her! Good to see Ben on the show proper!
I LOVE Saw in Half, happy to see it getting a "normal" reprint, and happier even to see it make great plays and even win! Its *the* one card can never cut from my Meren EDH, even if its only purpose is "win more" in most situations.
There's at least 2 elemental cats on Bloomburrow, Ben. the red explode-y cat, and Ygra the Hungry Hungry Kitty.
some people are undefeated
some people have only been defeated
can't wait to see which Ben will be!
hell yeah love to see ulmer on here cant wait for the ben ben episode
AH! Paul jumpscare! (That picture is very good, tho)
1:11:33 Ben forgot his ancient tomb damage, which would have changed how he blocked the following turn, but not the outcome of the game (probably).
We've had one Ben, but what about second Ben.
Ben is really good with that deck. I played him when he was on it at Chicago. We had great games
After Ben was hit for 5+5 from initiative in game three putting him to 2 he should have been dead, he never lost the life from ancient tomb when he tapped it
So excited to see Ben "goes back to watching the video"
Nice games yall. POG dude!
That's for sure a decision heavy matchup 😮
Here comes a new challenger!
Ragavan got Pathed to Exile.. Should have gone to Exile pile, minor mistake until Graveyard got put back into Library. Unless, I missed something.
So... if N100 really is a gateway drug into the format, how long until we see Paul shuffle up? haha
Loved these games. It is really hard to play Magic for the camera. Serge's depth of format experience showed here. Also two Canlander players scrutinizing the game is very different than three with one of them being Ben Wheeler.
Game 2 was incredible. All 3 were good, but game 2 in particular.
take a drink every time ben says on your end step
I really wanted Wheeler to be in the tech seat, NGL, but also this is gonna be so much fun AND not a 30 minute curbstomp, so yay!
By god, that’s Paul’s “Hello!”
wow that was a proper brawl!
Ben's blink spells are SO SICKKKKKKK
Yooooo, Mr. Dr. Bengineering I is here!
I was 1.5 hours late to work today.
they said it couldn't be done, but i managed to refresh fifteen seconds after a new North 100 appeared
Yay, a Ben appears!
Man I love Saw in Half!
Dragon’s Maze (RTR block as a whole) definitely isn’t boomer Magic. It’s legal in Pioneer, aka the zoomer eternal format
I really don't get how "boomber" just means "kind of old" at this point.
Great games! There was a error you both made when it came to resolving the Undercity's final room. You both put the revealed cards on the bottom of the deck, when it's supposed to be a shuffle.
22:50 there's no -domesticated- animals on Bloomburrow (that we've seen) so no canidae canis or felidae filidae, but plenty of opportunities for their wild counterparts. Also most of the wildlife is themed around North American wildlife, the PAcific Northwest while also including animals found in the British Isles and western Europe
Is ben using proxies for the ABUR duals and if so... which ones?
love seeing ben ben on screen, do pay mind to the man behind the camera
does anyone know who the artist of ben's initiative token is?
You definitely need to do a 2 headed giant with both Bens dressed alike on one team. 2nd team could be Serge and Beej dressed up like Serge 😂
Serges nightmare deck is much like his canlander angel deck. Pretty light on angels and nightmares 😂❤ In seriousness very happy to see Ben Ben playing canlander on stream again. Lots of fun!
Not much Nightmare but boy howdy did Serge draw a ton of removal!
My spreadsheet genuinely cannot handle another person. It's been real
12:10 I feel like decks containing Sol Ring and Crop Rotation should also contain Urza's Saga?
But I am not a Canlander expert.
Ben!!! Hell Yeah Brother!
1:11:28 - doesn't Ben get 2 damage from his own Ancint Tomb?
omgomgomgomgomgomg
It's Ben Ben.
Might not have mattered, but ben could have crunched in game 2 with the Solitude and the Illusion token and wither traded or taken the initiative and had a look at the top 10 for fury. Serge would have had 6 shadow with dauthi and Ben would have been out of trap range thanks to the life bump from Solitude. This is not a great line, but it does keep him alive for longer.
I really enjoyed Ben on this episode! I hope you take this as constructive criticism but I really feel like this series went down to how the two players handled rollbacks. Ben just rolled with the mistakes while Serge went with the "optimal choices for a good showcase" approach and while i understand both, i feel like setting a consistent policy between all of you would be a good improvement to the series.
I like to think the middle of the table represents the stack.
Is DRS tap ability not a mana ability? 34:22?
If so, Serge can't respond to it.
Because it has a target, it's not a mana ability
Boseiju, Who Endures has your opponent get a kand with a basic type and not a basic land! D:
28:06 Sick initiative token
New challenger appears!
BENBEN??? FINALLY!!
Heck yeah I was wondering when Ulmer would get a chance to sling some canadian cardboard again
Its really funny to me that the cat planeswalker ults with CATaclysm.
I just realized that Phelia can fetch permanents your opponents have stolen from you and is rewarded for it. XD
Sick soul read Serge
I need Ben on Otters on the showdown. I need more otter representation
Hey its BenBen! And a Paul!
BEN ULMER PLAYING!? JOYOUS DAY :D
Here to watch a different Ben
Hey, it's BenBen!!!