I feel bad for Banks, that his former trainer could not or would not give him patience and respect his mental health. Tim, i know you may think that seeing the slow stuff us boring, but it is not. Watching somebody with patience work with an animal can actually teach others what patience looks like. I believe a lot of folks can gain from that, so they can do better work with their horses. I know i gain from seeing you take tiny baby steps, sometimes over and over. Seeing it is more instru tive than somebody just saying the words. I really appreciate this kind of video.
Another really nice horse! So many trainers ignore the fact that every horse is dif. Training should be judged by how each horse is progressing and not by the "30/60/90" count down! Such a nice horse that deserves the time!
My distractions for my crazy Arabian was chickens. I got him thirty baby chickens. They lived in the stall beside him and he could see them from the time they were tiny. He seemed to really like them but they are flighty things and I turned them loose all day where they could get right in his stall. Imagine Sabre with thirty adolescent chickens flying around every where. As they first began flying all over he freaked out but as they kept flying around and didn't care what he did he started to calm down. By the time they were a year old they could go flapping and squacking between the horse's legs and he wouldn't turn an ear.
Such a nice horse. Glad he is with you!! When i first got my Arab gelding from the slaughter pipeline, he was terrified of everything, had little trust in humans, and was dangerous at times. One day i decided to just play with him with a small cardboard box. He loved flipping it around by the flap and he was fascinated when i tossed it up in the air and he would go pick it up and carry it around. That's one little way i discovered discovered to distract him from his anxiety and get him to enjoy my company. ❤
I am curious, when a horse like this does finally come to trust you, does the Owner need to repeat the whole process? or maybe 50% of it? I'm thinking of how I worked with unsocialized cats. Got them calm and and lovey to me, but it was very specific to me; most trust didn't transfer to adoptors. Saber reminds me a lot of an unsocialized feline! I love watching you work with the horses, you address them individually. Our 'health' system could take a lesson from you.
I've rarely had access to an arena of any useful size - just a small open-air sand school. So once the animal led fairly reliably, we'd start going out into the big wide world to meet all the distractions that you find there! Not going very far from home at the beginning, sometimes only to the end of the farm driveway, or across a field to a copse, if the animal is anxious. PS oh, and always something _pleasant_ at some point during each excursion. For the bold and confident, the lesson is, in itself, pleasant and is its own reward. For the anxious/timid, a chance to get a few bites of grass, a relaxing pause while a favourite itchy bit is scratched, or something else which helps to relax the animal in the new environment. The idea being to have 'new stuff/places' become associated, not with 'high value' rewards (which often lead to even more problems) but with what I can best describe as mild pleasures - something just a _little_ bit more rewarding than a release of pressure, and of longer duration.
Poor Banks must have had some really bad experience with the other trainer. Thank goodness he's in the hands of a great horse trainer now, so he can get rid of his anxiety and learn to be a relaxed riding horse. Thank you Tim for being so respectful and patient with all of the horses tou train. Here in the Dominican Republic many horses unfortunately are "trained" into learned helplessness and often they are very head shy. Bob the"new camera guy" cracked me up 😂💕🐎
It’s a lot of deciphering… I’ve been working on a very anxious mare that was abused for almost a year and a half. Consistent gentle handling has helped but her trust was destroyed so it’s gonna take time.
Wish I had pictures to share but we used everything you are already using, plus we added those blue barrels you have against your barn and a cavaletti with a 6 inch rise. It kept the horses busy.
I’m banking on banks. Yes, you portrayed the anxiety level with being saddled. I am predicting, as a novice viewer, that he is going to be an excellent steed.
We have a rescue horse at my barn. She behaves like banks. Turns out she has pain in her back. That needs to be fixed of course, but now she is so worried about anything. I am looking forward to your videos with Banks.
I traded for a little paint filly, after two years, i gave her to a younger girl via a young female veterinarian in northern California.. i am so happy the filly found her home, i bought them bought custom made hats from "Put a lid on it!"
Mine got somewhat arena sour last year and hacking/trail riding options were limited. I created distraction in the arena by using saucer cones to simulate little slaloms and patterns. Very useful as kept him thinking, it made his flat work fun as couldn't anticipate it; and really opened up his withers as a step prior to some lateral work. Really handy and cheap. Plus there is always pole work with a multitude of designs online.
My gelding acts just like this, once I am on him and riding him, he is perfect, but the saddling and handling he’s nervous about and his body is so tight. I bought him from a ranch in Montana.
I appreciate your reminder that the horse will tell you when he's ready to move on to something more challenging. Horses have their own sense of time and we humans are often terribly impatient and live against the clock. Thank you for bring "in the flow." I don't remember ever seeing you look at your watch. Wow.
I always like to take a preoccupied horse out to explore "real life" with natural obstacles. A lot of going around trees and bushes, over logs of various sizes, through mud puddles, and through ditches. It helps slow them down and pay attention to thier feet, work on steering and balance all while building confidence.
HI Bob, I like it a lot that you show your interest in whats going on and your playful take on helping the filming team🙂 thank you tim for taking so much time and so much thoughts about what could have happend to the horse before. greetings from northern Germany
Another great video showing your conclusions andapproach for correction. I can understand the feelings of frustration that lead to overreacting and poor decisions. This trainer may have been over their head and as you said rushed Banks inadvertently traumatizing the poor guy. I hope you this trainer takes stock of themselves and do some reflection. It’s really how we learn. That’s my 2 cents worth, but thankfully their are wise and skill trainers to put these critters back on track. Thank uo
Thankyou Tim, Banks sure is a looker and im sure he will do well with you. Really enjoying the beautiful mix of horses currently in work with you. Keep up the good work. 👍
I’m also working with a mare that is reactive. Any motion near her face she flinches and tosses her head and any glance at her when halted (while leading her around) makes her back up. Was trying to teach her leg yield on the ground this morning and as soon as I moved my hand to send her sideways she spun her quarters away from me. I will definitely try a few things you showed in the video!!
Hi, it is a good horse 🐎 and good luck you need it a lot. Have a nice day ❄️ and the cattle is so cute too. Have a nice day. tim is Bob trying to get your good job you have a nice day good job with him
Lets see when I would get a new horse in my barn, I played the radio with classical music clamming music, or I would sit in the alley way playing my guitar, i studied Spanish guitar so I would play that the whole barn of horses would settle and El Citar would actually laydown and sleep. So When I worked my Arab stud i played recordings of my guitar playing all his dancing for saddling, baths, abd amounting started to slow. It took.a year but then I have never said I was a trainer just loved horses.
He is beautiful and of course love your training approach- in a section of our property I have barrels,cowboy curtain,noodle wall, barrels,cones,teeter totter,bridge,poles ,flags and a mogul and ditch-I have pictures but didn’t have the option to share here
I use an empty feed bag, my wheelbarrow, feed bucket, a jacket laid on the ground. My horse even eyeballs the cat laying on the planks between the stalls. Is a challenge but I try to change it up and move them to different spots in the round pen.
I'm not quite 5.2 and my horses are both 15.3 and both lower their head for me to bridal or halter, at first they didn't - I just stayed with them too, taking my time (slow is fast) ...I just had -45C cold weather - all is on hold for a weather break lol
Banks has very high withers. Is there any visual sign of scaring or hair pattern from an ill-fitting saddle? That can be excruciatingly painful for a horse. They can't say "Ow, that hurts."
Thank you for teaching me what I didn't know to watch for in a horse I was riding. I love riding and never wanted to create fear in the horse I enjoyed riding. I road a big stallion that no women could ride, and I didn't know that he had got every girl in in the family scared of him, but when I finished my first ride on him all the girls could ride him. He was so beautiful I wish I had had your gift of training a horse.
I feel for this horse. I use to train many moons ago and i refused to rush "30 day training" that several people wanted. The old "ill send x # colts to you in rotation you finish em in 30 days" is said No i go at the horses pace if they are ok at that pace great. If not then they need 60 or 90 days or even more. Punch training creates this problem. Yeah the horse can be "trained" or rideable in 30 days. But if that training creates a distrustful scared to pieces partner thats not ok. I wish more realized this.
Nice looking horse. What breed is he? We used barrels, cones, childrens toys, stop signs, mail boxes and poles as distractions where i used to teach to test potential therapy horses.
My mare is pretty good and quiet except being tied to the trailer I can tie her to a fence all day and she’s fine, but tie her to the trailer and she things there is a monster under there that will eat her! She has pulled back a couple times while tied to trailer. So at the moment I don’t tie her, I run the rope through the ring on the trailer and take my saddle pad out and put it on her sides, at her feet or wherever and if she gets spooky, I keep doing that one thing until I see a sign of her relaxing. I have tossed splint boots around her, dropped the bridle, brushes blankets all around her. I don’t know what started this whole setting back scared of the trailer came from, but we are slowly making progress on her behavior at the trailer.
She is good about loading. And is fine IN the trailer. I have been working with her and she is so much better and way more relaxed. I have also gotten a blocker tie ring that I clip to the tie ring on the trailer. I can now feel comfortable saddling her at the trailer. I got some local professional help and it’s working!
For anxious horses like him, would it help if he watched Bob being saddled? Do they absorb visually or learn by observing? Prob a silly question but I am curious
Have you ever seen one horse willfully offer their food to another? Ot might happen on occasion but not as part of normal herd structure. Using treats changes the hander / horse dynamics in a negative way.
I feel bad for Banks, that his former trainer could not or would not give him patience and respect his mental health. Tim, i know you may think that seeing the slow stuff us boring, but it is not. Watching somebody with patience work with an animal can actually teach others what patience looks like. I believe a lot of folks can gain from that, so they can do better work with their horses. I know i gain from seeing you take tiny baby steps, sometimes over and over. Seeing it is more instru tive than somebody just saying the words. I really appreciate this kind of video.
Another really nice horse! So many trainers ignore the fact that every horse is dif. Training should be judged by how each horse is progressing and not by the "30/60/90" count down! Such a nice horse that deserves the time!
My distractions for my crazy Arabian was chickens. I got him thirty baby chickens. They lived in the stall beside him and he could see them from the time they were tiny. He seemed to really like them but they are flighty things and I turned them loose all day where they could get right in his stall. Imagine Sabre with thirty adolescent chickens flying around every where. As they first began flying all over he freaked out but as they kept flying around and didn't care what he did he started to calm down. By the time they were a year old they could go flapping and squacking between the horse's legs and he wouldn't turn an ear.
Neat idea!
Such a nice horse. Glad he is with you!! When i first got my Arab gelding from the slaughter pipeline, he was terrified of everything, had little trust in humans, and was dangerous at times. One day i decided to just play with him with a small cardboard box. He loved flipping it around by the flap and he was fascinated when i tossed it up in the air and he would go pick it up and carry it around. That's one little way i discovered discovered to distract him from his anxiety and get him to enjoy my company. ❤
Would he like one of those of those balls that have a handle?
Good morning guys, Its not boring if this is what you have to do to get the job done. Thank you for video Melinda and Tim,😄
I am curious, when a horse like this does finally come to trust you, does the Owner need to repeat the whole process? or maybe 50% of it? I'm thinking of how I worked with unsocialized cats. Got them calm and and lovey to me, but it was very specific to me; most trust didn't transfer to adoptors. Saber reminds me a lot of an unsocialized feline! I love watching you work with the horses, you address them individually. Our 'health' system could take a lesson from you.
You’re an Angel for these horses! Love the patience here! 😇 ❤️ 🐴
For distractions we use balloons, a baby stroller, a large flag, a giant stuffed dog and a mailbox. Among other things :)
I want this horse! He is gorgeous.
I've rarely had access to an arena of any useful size - just a small open-air sand school. So once the animal led fairly reliably, we'd start going out into the big wide world to meet all the distractions that you find there! Not going very far from home at the beginning, sometimes only to the end of the farm driveway, or across a field to a copse, if the animal is anxious. PS oh, and always something _pleasant_ at some point during each excursion. For the bold and confident, the lesson is, in itself, pleasant and is its own reward. For the anxious/timid, a chance to get a few bites of grass, a relaxing pause while a favourite itchy bit is scratched, or something else which helps to relax the animal in the new environment. The idea being to have 'new stuff/places' become associated, not with 'high value' rewards (which often lead to even more problems) but with what I can best describe as mild pleasures - something just a _little_ bit more rewarding than a release of pressure, and of longer duration.
I sure do like Bob. I'm glad you took the time to find something that made him feel so much better.
Bob rocks!
I don’t know much about horses, so I am really enjoying watching you. There’s a lot of similarities between how you work horses and how I work dogs.
Poor Banks must have had some really bad experience with the other trainer. Thank goodness he's in the hands of a great horse trainer now, so he can get rid of his anxiety and learn to be a relaxed riding horse. Thank you Tim for being so respectful and patient with all of the horses tou train. Here in the Dominican Republic many horses unfortunately are "trained" into learned helplessness and often they are very head shy.
Bob the"new camera guy" cracked me up 😂💕🐎
Bob and hanging around the camera 😆 👌 !!!
It's that immune builder, sharpening his mind and focus 😂😂😂 !!!!!!
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He's a beautiful boy! Lucky to land in your hand, Tim.
It’s a lot of deciphering… I’ve been working on a very anxious mare that was abused for almost a year and a half. Consistent gentle handling has helped but her trust was destroyed so it’s gonna take time.
Wish I had pictures to share but we used everything you are already using, plus we added those blue barrels you have against your barn and a cavaletti with a 6 inch rise. It kept the horses busy.
I’m banking on banks. Yes, you portrayed the anxiety level with being saddled. I am predicting, as a novice viewer, that he is going to be an excellent steed.
We have a rescue horse at my barn.
She behaves like banks.
Turns out she has pain in her back.
That needs to be fixed of course, but now she is so worried about anything.
I am looking forward to your videos with Banks.
I traded for a little paint filly, after two years, i gave her to a younger girl via a young female veterinarian in northern California.. i am so happy the filly found her home, i bought them bought custom made hats from "Put a lid on it!"
Great example of how doing so little accomplishes so much. Nice job.
Mine got somewhat arena sour last year and hacking/trail riding options were limited. I created distraction in the arena by using saucer cones to simulate little slaloms and patterns. Very useful as kept him thinking, it made his flat work fun as couldn't anticipate it; and really opened up his withers as a step prior to some lateral work. Really handy and cheap. Plus there is always pole work with a multitude of designs online.
Great idea!
Banks is a beauty
My gelding acts just like this, once I am on him and riding him, he is perfect, but the saddling and handling he’s nervous about and his body is so tight. I bought him from a ranch in Montana.
I appreciate your reminder that the horse will tell you when he's ready to move on to something more challenging. Horses have their own sense of time and we humans are often terribly impatient and live against the clock. Thank you for bring "in the flow." I don't remember ever seeing you look at your watch. Wow.
Bob is an excellent production assistant! You need to give him a raise!
I just have to say...I like Bob's sense of humour. :)
I always like to take a preoccupied horse out to explore "real life" with natural obstacles. A lot of going around trees and bushes, over logs of various sizes, through mud puddles, and through ditches. It helps slow them down and pay attention to thier feet, work on steering and balance all while building confidence.
he looks like he's in terrific condition. good lesson in patience!
Like the angle and Bob's support 😅 he makes that "boring" work entertaining... Lol
What a lovely horse and his name really suits him. Look forward to seeing Banks progress.
I like that camera angle.
Go Bob Go! It's nice to hear laughter while you work..
Nice video angle. Your videos keep getting better and better! Loving it dude!
BTW much love to the Film "Team". 😅😂😊 love Bobs help. ❤️
Yes! We are watching here on the other side of Atlantic. The dark night here. Thanks for fantastic advice 😊❤ Your work is amazing ❤
HI Bob, I like it a lot that you show your interest in whats going on and your playful take on helping the filming team🙂
thank you tim for taking so much time and so much thoughts about what could have happend to the horse before.
greetings from northern Germany
Another great video showing your conclusions andapproach for correction. I can understand the feelings of frustration that lead to overreacting and poor decisions. This trainer may have been over their head and as you said rushed Banks inadvertently traumatizing the poor guy. I hope you this trainer takes stock of themselves and do some reflection. It’s really how we learn. That’s my 2 cents worth, but thankfully their are wise and skill trainers to put these critters back on track. Thank uo
I got a birthday balloon, so I used one to walk around with him and it.
Those are scary! Lol.
Glad I took the time with the first filly out of the mare I'm on. She was bombproof.
Thankyou Tim, Banks sure is a looker and im sure he will do well with you. Really enjoying the beautiful mix of horses currently in work with you.
Keep up the good work. 👍
It's a shame that he's had a rough start. There's no point in rushing youngsters. It always goes wrong and needs to be fixed.
I use cavaletti to distract my young mare. Both for riding and longing.
I’m also working with a mare that is reactive. Any motion near her face she flinches and tosses her head and any glance at her when halted (while leading her around) makes her back up. Was trying to teach her leg yield on the ground this morning and as soon as I moved my hand to send her sideways she spun her quarters away from me. I will definitely try a few things you showed in the video!!
Hi, it is a good horse 🐎 and good luck you need it a lot. Have a nice day ❄️ and the cattle is so cute too. Have a nice day. tim is Bob trying to get your good job you have a nice day good job with him
It’s been my experience, rushing their training seems to leave the next guy/owner with problems. Great video
Lets see when I would get a new horse in my barn, I played the radio with classical music clamming music, or I would sit in the alley way playing my guitar, i studied Spanish guitar so I would play that the whole barn of horses would settle and El Citar would actually laydown and sleep. So When I worked my Arab stud i played recordings of my guitar playing all his dancing for saddling, baths, abd amounting started to slow. It took.a year but then I have never said I was a trainer just loved horses.
He is beautiful and of course love your training approach- in a section of our property I have barrels,cowboy curtain,noodle wall, barrels,cones,teeter totter,bridge,poles ,flags and a mogul and ditch-I have pictures but didn’t have the option to share here
Maybe Bob wants to help the poor poor boy.
I use an empty feed bag, my wheelbarrow, feed bucket, a jacket laid on the ground. My horse even eyeballs the cat laying on the planks between the stalls. Is a challenge but I try to change it up and move them to different spots in the round pen.
I'm not quite 5.2 and my horses are both 15.3 and both lower their head for me to bridal or halter, at first they didn't - I just stayed with them too, taking my time (slow is fast) ...I just had -45C cold weather - all is on hold for a weather break lol
It's okay, Banks, I have trust issues too.
Banks has very high withers. Is there any visual sign of scaring or hair pattern from an ill-fitting saddle? That can be excruciatingly painful for a horse. They can't say "Ow, that hurts."
He doesn't have any signs of a poor fitting saddle.
Such a nice guy....❤
Love your tag photo 😂😂😂 !!!
Thank you for teaching me what I didn't know to watch for in a horse I was riding. I love riding and never wanted to create fear in the horse I enjoyed riding. I road a big stallion that no women could ride, and I didn't know that he had got every girl in in the family scared of him, but when I finished my first ride on him all the girls could ride him. He was so beautiful I wish I had had your gift of training a horse.
I feel for this horse. I use to train many moons ago and i refused to rush "30 day training" that several people wanted. The old "ill send x # colts to you in rotation you finish em in 30 days" is said No i go at the horses pace if they are ok at that pace great. If not then they need 60 or 90 days or even more. Punch training creates this problem. Yeah the horse can be "trained" or rideable in 30 days. But if that training creates a distrustful scared to pieces partner thats not ok. I wish more realized this.
Nice looking horse. What breed is he?
We used barrels, cones, childrens toys, stop signs, mail boxes and poles as distractions where i used to teach to test potential therapy horses.
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My mare is pretty good and quiet except being tied to the trailer I can tie her to a fence all day and she’s fine, but tie her to the trailer and she things there is a monster under there that will eat her! She has pulled back a couple times while tied to trailer. So at the moment I don’t tie her, I run the rope through the ring on the trailer and take my saddle pad out and put it on her sides, at her feet or wherever and if she gets spooky, I keep doing that one thing until I see a sign of her relaxing. I have tossed splint boots around her, dropped the bridle, brushes blankets all around her. I don’t know what started this whole setting back scared of the trailer came from, but we are slowly making progress on her behavior at the trailer.
How is she abt loading?
She is good about loading. And is fine IN the trailer. I have been working with her and she is so much better and way more relaxed. I have also gotten a blocker tie ring that I clip to the tie ring on the trailer. I can now feel comfortable saddling her at the trailer. I got some local professional help and it’s working!
@@marlenecadd4650 did you ever get a handle on her fear of being tied to the trailer?
Tim can I ask when you put on bridle where did you attatch your rope..thanks.x
For anxious horses like him, would it help if he watched Bob being saddled? Do they absorb visually or learn by observing? Prob a silly question but I am curious
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😢😢😢why some trainers thats not cowboy or any other method
Do you ever use the back girth? When do you introduce it?
I introduce it after they understand my leg cues.
Hi Tim, I have one question. Why don’t you use “treats” for good behavior?
Thanks for the very informative videos!
He’s mentioned it before, that it creates a nippy horse. Cheers!
Have you ever seen one horse willfully offer their food to another? Ot might happen on occasion but not as part of normal herd structure. Using treats changes the hander / horse dynamics in a negative way.
Do you worry he will roll with the saddle?
He keeps holding up his right rear hoof; is that significant?
He hasn't done anything to make me think it was an issue.