Federal Government Wants To Make RV Camping A Lot More Expensive!
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- The Federal Government wants to make RV Camping a lot more expensive for many RVers. In this video, we share with you the new proposed plan to increase fees and where these fee would affect.
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Next year I'll be 70. My parents always camped, and back then it was a tent, a Coleman stove, lantern, and a big ice chest with a block of ice you'd buy on the way out of town.
We had a ball camping all over Oklahoma on the weekends, and take week long trips to New Mexico, Colorado, and up to Wyoming in a 1959 chevy.
In 1963 dad bought a chevy truck and built a camper shell for the back we used until 1966 when he bought a brand new cabover camper for the back of his truck. I was 11yrs old and thought that was the coolest thing there was.
No air conditioning, a 2 burner stove, a sink with a hand pump for water, and a built in ice box with a shelf for the block of ice.
6 years later he bought a bigger nicer cabover.
These were the glory days of camping and the start of the RV industry. To bad it will never be like that again.
Too many people, too many rules, too commercialized now.
Its no longer camping, people drive or pull their living rooms, kitchens and bedrooms and tell people they went camping....bull shit. They've managed to destroy everything that made it so special.
Yeah it’s a hole snobs who go glamping. They pay for RVS what many pay for homes. I want to stay away from people, not watch them brush their teeth to upload to UA-cam. Lovers of self in these end days.
Though we've camped in a similar manner for decades, we don't camp anymore. We live this way full time, but you would never know it to look at us. Yes, we have a motorhome with all the creature comforts of home - because we are home. We are totally self-contained, with slide-outs, 24/7 off-grid air conditioning, etc. but it's powered by the sun, so there's no noisy, stinky generator or blaring radio to interfere with anyone else's enjoyment of the wilderness experience. And in 2 weeks we'll be gone, leaving no trace that we were ever there, except for maybe some tire tracks. It's the homeless who don't live this way by choice who give no thought to others. They spread their junk out like they own the place and stay for a month or more till they get thrown out, leaving broken bottles, cans in the fire pit and overflowing garbage bags behind that give us responsible, considerate RVers a bad name.
It’s because people do not respect the lands and clean up after themselves. Freedom isn’t always free.
If anyone has been BLM camping, you’ll know that they get a lot of use and unfortunately abuse. I know from the Off-road world, BLM is constantly having to close trails because of overuse and abuse. So my guess is these price hikes are penalizing the majority for the sins of the minority.
:( such a shame
There’s probably some truth to that.
I’m sorry to see them go up so much. Maybe they should’ve been raising fees slowly over the past several years to avoid these unfair jumps in fees?
@@mitchellbarnow1709they have been raising fees continuously for many years. They're called every tax you can think of and then make up excuses to close areas from the public so they can have it to themselves.
It’s called governing by the diaper policy. A few people $hit in their britches and then, everyone has to wear diapers.
Someone has to pay for the 6 electric car charge stations that cost us 9 billion dollars. But let's charge the people to pay for the use of land we the people already paid for.
9 Billion.. No matter how you do the math that’s impossible.. Hell we can go to the Moon and back for less than that.. One thing for sure the criminals pushing this monetarily impossible mess are getting filthy rich..
thank the dems
LMAO, MAGA still whining about EVs.
@@Mikefngarageyou spelled commies wrong
@@Bitterstone3849 some people might mistake that for Reps. but not us. The people who live until they dye in denial.
They changed BLM free camping in AZ last year and closed a bunch of spaces that they felt were being abused by campers instead of sending a ranger out to police the areas. I welcome the fee increases which hopefully will get rid of the losers who destroyed the land.
Exactly!.. and guess what PARTY the new 'boss ' is in, the lazy money sponge dems.
Most of these BLM sites have been trashed by the COVID influx of new campers that had little to no clue of camping etiquette. Now, they have homeless and drug users living on these sites. Somehow the fees are intended to detour squatting, and help pay for clean up and restoration.
Thats partly it, because costs of living are skyrocketing, and rents have doubled in cities, they dont want poor people living in RV's.
Trouble with raising prices on dump stations is that "it" has to go somewhere and if the cost is too high, guess where the scofflaws are going to dump it? To encourage proper sanitation, dump sites should be as cheap as possible.
Ahh, but the government has to care in the first place, right?
Nevada has free dump all over. Every rest stop, most small towns. Please don't litter. California charges an arm and a leg. California is covered with trash.
Living in Colorado and Nevada I’ve spent a lot of time on BLM land and what I see nowadays is trash, heaps of trash where people have camped, ruined trails, shit, you name it. This was never seen 30 years ago. People act like this and desecrate the land and the BLM is tasked with cleaning it up. That cost money.
vax and floride
I’ve seen this crap at trail heads too.
It’s probably to help pay the workers from the BLM to clean up the sites after sloppy campers leave. We do it to ourselves!
Like they are gonna clean anything 😮
I understand what you're saying about the way the lazy people treat blm land, but get real about government. They aren't going to do anything for that extra revenue.
The government is broke national debt is beond the ability to pay it, they are charging extra not to add services but because they can't afford to keep it open.
This is ridiculous. Every time you turn around someone is there with their hand out.
Especially the government.
@@markwoods7237and the corporations
BLM camping is still cheap if you can handle no hookups. Heck, in Florida private parks run $70-$100 per night. Weekly discounts high. Even at those prices booking 1 year in advance is advised, you might get a site 6 months in advance.
Higher BLM camping fees might cut down the crowds and restore the wilderness experience. I wonder if some of the price increase is due to the need to clean up all the trash left by campers.
Remember they are talking about paid BLM campgrounds, and yes some of those hikes are extreme. However, 90% of campers use BLM because of the free camping. And... even in the free BLM sites, trash has become an issue. So don't be surprised when they start charging at the "free" site next year. IJS.
10 percent for the "big guy"?
If they prosecuted those who trash federal land, maybe the word would get out and it would stop. So many decent folks pick up after others, but it's not enough to compensate for the inconsiderate ones.
And hey, lets just encourage millions of illegals into the country that DO NOT give a damn about this country. Biden and the democrats dirty, filthy, criminal, drug infested illegals encouraged to bring the cultural trash to this country illegally and ask the citizens to pay for it. This will backfire and the backfire will be ugly, really ugly.
Not surprising coming from those states. All those people who cant leave it better than they got it. Ruining it for others. Cost more to clean up those areas. Of course no transparency as to what those funds are covering either.
The BLM is a federal agency, the states have nothing to do with it. Nobody would accuse Idaho of being a high-price state.
Thanks for chiming in Aaron. Hope all is well with you!
Stop voting for Democrats
Investigate who runs the blm. It's not we the people!
We always use dispersed BLM, we never went to areas that had fees.
Eventually there will be tens of millions who cannot afford rent/housing. What are they going to do, put us all in FEMA work camps? I wish that last statement was ridiculous, but it's not.
This will be yet another factor in the price of RVS. It’s easy to see that camping is becoming a playground for the rich and if you don’t fall into this category then you’re not going to be able to park your RV anywhere decent without paying the price as you would in a private park.
What happens to all the people who live in RVS and homeschool their children. It’s going to increase homelessness just because the state has figured out that they can create more income. It’s sheer greed unless they are using the extra money to upgrade their parks and add facilities etc.
With the ever increasing cost of camping and the purchase price of RVS that come with issues that require fixing it’s not difficult to see why so many Americans are buying homes in Italy and the south of France. You can rent your property while you’re not there and pay off your mortgage within 4 years. All flights are tax deductible as you can register as a business. All running costs are deductible whereas you can keep pouring money into an RV. America really is being short sighted as they are killing the industry forever in my humble opinion.
It's more than BLM. The campgrounds on the Blue Ridge Parkway are increasing fees by 50% this year. Gggrrrr...
Thanks for the info guys. Are we surprised people abuse BLM land? NO! Some people refuse to pick up after their dogs at standard campgrounds. This is a result of people who refuse to understand and respect the etiquette of disperse camping. Now we must pay the price.
Yep. Wish people could be more considerate of others. Hope your trip is going well!
Although this may seem like a big increase it does not seem out of line, a quick google told me the last time there was an increase was 2014, ten years later does not seem out of line. We BLM camped once to try it out and never again, too many creepy campers and some were total slobs. Maybe this will weed some of them out, but I doubt it.
It amazes me that the BLM and Army Corp of Engineers have been able to keep prices so affordable for so long. I think alot more people are using the resources and it's costing more to maintain. One of the best ways to keep this affordable is leave as nice as you found it or improve it while you are there (pick up after someone else).
Too MANY people have been taking advantage of these spots ad not taking care of them. (leaving litter, destroying firepits, etc.) These costs are to patrol more now since they have to. Newbees who don't know how to RV responsibly have ruined this part for everyone.
Given the lack of fee increases in a while (generally) I think this is partly playing catch up with the inflated US dollar.
Judging by the condition many of the campsites are being left in (broken glass, hardware stores worth of rusty nails n screws in and around fire pits, human and dog waste, etc. I am not surprised.
I was at a beautiful waterfront camping - 14 days free dispersed in TN. They had a huge dumpster plus bear proof garbage cans. Sadly, f'ng lazy people literally left mattresses, dirty disposable diapers in and around the water, plastic , glass, broken kids toys - you name it in the sites directly across from the dumpster!
It is horrifying that humans don't realize our little blue space ship is all we have, and if we don't take care of it, there is no place else to go.
Add, the number of people out here now, they need more resources to maintain these millions of acres.
Maybe if they had people at least register their vehicles and got a yearly pass to put on windshield of main vehicle (like the LTVA passes).
Inconsiderate People are ruining it for everyone.
Add the fire danger in the western states, having to go in and look for stragglers before doing controlled burns, or, god forbid, out of control burns....
It would probably be more cost effective to put dumpsters/recycling bins at entrance of some of the super popular dispersed areas. I would pray that it may help reduce the crap dumped. Imo. Hopefully they will still offer old people discounts 🤣
So sick of lazy people!! It IS rediculous that they can't walk 10 ft to put their trash in a container...ugh!!
More and more formerly free camping areas are being made off limits to camping and being replaced by cramped and under sized "campgrounds".
Make sure you look into senior and veteran discounts. Some BLM and other federal parks are free or 50% off veterans and seniors.
Surprise Surprise Surprise 😮 the most dangerous words ever r spoken are " I'm from the government, and I'm here to help " !
Well if this will be private will be 100 dollars per night like most of 2-3 star hotels charge now. What needs to happen is people need to protest these increases, but hey in this country is no allow to protest.
That was Ronald Reagan’s line. Yep. Much wiser to believe and trust that if you give huge tax cuts and advantages to corporations and rich people and make them fabulously wealthy their money will “trickle down” and make things fair and equal for everyone else.
To help clean up the mess campers left behind
@jimcurry5458 we both know trickle up polices didn't work as advertised, nor did we believe it would
Thanks for the heads up. I have been researching about buying an RV. You just made my choice. No way in hell! Like they say, if it flys, floats or ...you're better off renting. Of course the government screwed that up too.
From your posted article:
The field office in St. George, Utah, notes these facts about the use of this popular site, which includes both a campground and day-use area. Some 14,760 visitors use the site each year.
Fee revenues only partially cover expenses, and “will not cover future infrastructure replacement needs.” Fees haven’t changed since 1998.
Here’s the proposal for fee changes.
Individual sites would increase from $8 to $22 per night
I used to go solo camping in the BLM and federal forest areas all along the west coast. As an Army vet it helped me to get back in touch with nature having had enough of it during deployment's. The Army made me hate camping. lol Three things caused me to stop. Trash and huge 4x4s with sketchy locals. The trash included spent shells and bottles and cans left over from drinking. It also includes more and more homeless activity and human waste. The conservative plan to defund agencies cuts needed resources to maintain let alone upgrade anything. People like to complain about taxes or fees and then complain when there is noone to fix anything. We could use some enforcement of basic laws including homeless camps. Disabling our government financially has taken away something us veterans have literally fought for, the homeland. Quit complaining about the price of fees or taxes for things but if you do know of a government worker who is doing something sketchy or illegal, either report it or stfu. There will always be that one person or people in government or the private workforce who will try to ruin it for everyone. Why let them?
Thanks for the info! I will keep an eye in the state of Florida just in case!
I generally support the trend of increasing the prices of high-demand government-run campgrounds. Put simply, many are way too inexpensive, and the demand has increased. Take any of those sites you mentioned and look at the percentage increase of the demand compared with the proposed percentage increase in the price. I will guarantee you if the price increase was 300% the demand increase is probably 3000%, no exaggeration. The BLM used to manage lands that literally might not see more than a handful of visitors a year. But with the advent of Boondocking thanks in part to ahem, UA-camrs who never shut up about it, these places have become genuinely overrun in some cases. The BLM was never conceived to manage such a place. Furthermore, the price increases will help to reduce the demand somewhat, a very good thing. Similar moves would be very welcome in many state and national parks, where the campsites are often laughably cheap for what you’re getting. I’ve seen lakefront sites in Montana or Washington state parks that are 28 a night. The demand for such a site is basically infinite, so of course these places see overwhelming use. Something has to give. And finally, these BLM sites are often used hard and put away wet by the disgusting humans that tend to visit them. Covered in trash, shit, graffiti, and subject to physical damage. They’ve got to be policed and overseen and that costs money. Bottom line: this is a good thing.
A lot of them are there because of some people pushing the cheap and easy life on social media. It costs more to be a full-time nomad full time than people think.
I agree, UA-camrs constantly talking about boondocking and full time RVing has substantially increased the crowds everywhere.
Thanks for the video.
Over our past decade of camping, we have seen campsites become more popular and more abused, torn up and simply not taken care of by campers. Simply put, eight to fourteen dollars a night was way cheaper than any commercial park. At Smoky Mountain Natl Park, parking was free (and free parking entrance), but after charging a $5 parking fee, the park has raised millions - and infrastructure improvements have already begun. I will support these fee hikes and camp there. We need to take care of our parks - that cost $$$$.
You guys do a wonderful job. Kudos to you. My wife and I are full time. I would love to join in with a you tube channel but don't know how. Keep up the good work. Bill and Ginny.
Walmart closed or cities closed some Walmart overnight parking because people were abusing it.
Honestly I'm shocked it's taken this long to charge or to raise the price of a stay.
Last time I stayed at a county park out Tillamook, Or nice little park no hookups it was 10 bucks a nite. When I was last there they had passed some new local taxes making it now cost $70 a nite with a pet fee. We payed just cause it was late and didn't feel like going on but not worth it for us.
I agree with others comments the bad few ruined it for the good many
Great video, THX. I understand that pricing on everything is going up and has always gone up and I know I can't buy a loaf a bread for 25 cents like I use to in the 50's. But these park price increases should have happened in small increments over time. We are both in our 70's & 80's and have been RVing for 24 years. At this point we just don't know how much longer we can continue to enjoy our RV (5th Wheel) physically and now financially. Most of us are burden with RV payments, insurance, maintenance, gas and now the cost at parks are going up. This might be our last year of RVing. : (
Sorry to hear.
I’m reading right there that I’m supposed to remember to keep comments respectful and to follow our community guidelines. Well when it comes to taxation and our federal government, I really can’t comment or I will get booted off this site. Complete crap.
Yep! You’re exactly right!!!
Inflation is supposed to be around 3% but prices more than double every year.
We have the unregulated corporate profit motive to thank for that.
The REASON: Fee revenues only partially (!!) cover expenses, and “will not cover future infrastructure replacement needs.” (And THIS!! :) Fees haven’t changed since 1998.
Wow! Those prices went to the roof! I just worry about rvers like you and everybody else. What will happen? Thank you Izzy and MJ for this video.
Is that all?
Basic camping spots with no hookups should remain the same. That is absolutely ridiculous! This is the whole reason many of us outfit like we do. With enough petitions, maybe the next administration will relook at this issue. We need to speak out before they start charging us to breathe.
Dump stations have to be free at government sites or there is going to be shit to deal with.
Ugh 😩 . This increase, along with outrageous fuel prices, are going to keep a lot of people from traveling and camping 😡😡😡
Unfortunately, that is the sad truth. :/
@@EndlessRVing Yep 😢
It might reduce the number of nights people spend out there, not a bad thing for crowds. I’d argue the BLM lands in question could stand a reduction in use. You can stay 14 days now. Ridiculous. No reason for any individual to be there that long, so it could result in more people being able to enjoy these places.
@@jordancook1668 I spent many years in the Imperial Sand Dunes and have stayed some long trips out there. Who are you to say how long a reasonable stay is? I understand not homesteading but come on.
Put a fork in RVing, especially full time. Sooo glad I didn't sign for that Newmar in 2020!!! Something inside me said wait and then you know what happened. Now I am in a log home up in NH on 7 acres...aside from a few black bears recently visiting it is truly awesome. God Bless:)
Good choice! RV-ing is getting as expensive as yachting
There are tons of places you can stay for free or cheap, provided you’re in a class B or small class C.
I agree. We got tired of RVing overpriced parks including KOA, everything full, rude employees, etc. So we bought 168 acres not too far from Tybee Island Beach in Georgia and that's where we have our camper at.
Good luck with that. We had a small rural home too, till the government raised our property taxes 1,000% one year forcing us into bankruptcy. Hope it doesn't happen to you. Just remember that you don't really own your land if the government can come along and tax it out from under you any time they like.
@@Hugo-Hernandez I hope the government lets you keep it. It would be a shame if the tax folk came around and said you land is worth $100,000 an acre (for tax purposes, not that you could sell it for anywhere near that) and present you with a 5 figure a year tax bill, like they did us. We live in a 25 yr. old motorhome now, mostly on government land with no property tax bill and couldn't be happier. We're in an RV park now, on the East Coast, visiting family, where boondocking places are rare, paying $100 a month for a no-hook-up campsite, which is much cheaper than these ridiculous public land rate increases. If they can let us stay for $3.33/day, (and presumably make a small profit) why can't the government do so on public land? Or better yet, why can't the government let you live on your own land for even 10 times that amount in taxes?
Glad I got my senior life time pass some years ago for $10.
Stayed at Burro Creek for $7 per night but they tacked on $8 reservation fee took it up to $15. We have lifetime pass so $7 was supposed to be 50% discount price. Pretty rustic as u wud expect. Never again with our 38ft class A. Specially not with them doubling the price.
Somebody has to pay for cleanup after losers who ruin and abuse the land.
I have a cargo trailer and boondock where possible also have senior fed parks pass.
It’s a good thing. Yes we would go no question. On the list.
Those are big hikes!
Stay well.
The biggest losers will be the manufacturers and their employees
St George UTAH is near Zion National Park. That explains a lot.
As a example the one in Utah in the article will go from $118,080 to a great amount of $324,720 maybe they can get some things upgraded in 20-30 years
Increased costs are never fun, especially when those costs affect you directly, but it is evident the growing popularity of RVing and camping have resulted in reduced availability and increased degradation of camping spaces. Either way, the prices had to rise: the typical capitalistic response to increased demand and limited supply is the price increase; the higher cost of maintaining and repairing heavily-used campgrounds warrant price increases. Hopefully, more of us leave no trace and take care of our beautiful country so all can enjoy. Safe travels, everyone!👍🏽
I read/watched info regarding the impact of people using sites inappropriately and leaving behind bags of trash, baby diapers, half burned trash that included efforts to burn plastic bottles, etc. Fires were fairly frequently left burning unattended. Apparently many places did not have the staff nor funds needed to rectify the mess. I wish we could be let in on the rationale for these increases. Hopefully they’ll provide more info.
It would be very helpful for them to explain what the money will do.
You just said why the fees are raised. You listed out the exact problem. It doesn't take them spelling out the reason. All that disgusting trash requires labor of people and equipment to clean up. Hopefully the higher fees will keep those fools out
Utilitarianism. Look it up yo self, brothers keeper.
Frustrating. Thanks for the update.
Thank you.
Go off grid.. pay nothing.. save a fortune.. live like a king.. away from the madding crowd and the stench of the greedy tourism industry.. happy camping.
That’s because it’s all monitored by the private sector not government.
I, personally think $5 a day for any site it extremely low....so $25-$40 a night seems reasonable.......I can remember paying $5-$10 per night back in the nineties.....Sounds like they are just catching up with the times.....and as always, thanks so much for all the info guys......Happy camping.....
Never even seen one camper in Burro Creek! HAH! Been by here MANY times! Even drove thru once to check it out...No idea why there is even a campground there, as Burro Creek is quite some distance away.
Mid March to mid April is when burro creek is busy - snowbirds heading north. Stayed there for ten days, very nice spot. Even with senior pass it will be 140 for 10 days. New price may seem reasonable, but my Social security didn’t double and pensions DON’T adjust at all. 25 percent increase is tolerable but double - not at all.
Thank you!
Of course!!! Why not?!
Have to say that a few campers messed it up for the rest of us over the last few years. Abuse is rampant and fees going up are ok with me if it helps keep the area in good shape. Help stop the abuse now! Leave no trace is critical and clean up abuse costs money.
You are welcome.
The two largest increases in AZ are on two cgs that were hugely underpriced. Virgin River was $8/$4 senior!, for a cg that had heated flush toilets, dumpsters, and a water spigot... Crossroads by Parker was frickin $5/$2.50 senior... Along the river on primo real estate.
these price increases, they should have been increased years ago.
Try towing with an EVTruck. See how far you'll get. Then how long it takes to charge after you disconnect the trailer to charge.
This will kill the trailer RV business.
Don't like this happening? Remember it when you vote in November.
Best answer on the list
Just plan your trip and stay for free at casino parking lots. Comes with free security.
Even with the price increase, BLM land is still way cheaper than commercial camp grounds. I have a hard time justifying paying over $100 per night just for site, water and electric.
Like greedy landlords they want more money without upgrades. Hard choices are coming for everyone, they costs R never going down.
Thanks for giving the increases visibility. Makes my blood boil. As if we don't give the feds enough for everything else.... One less multi-billion dollar stack of foreign aid cash overseas would cover it I'd say.
Exactly. If they not tell us for what extra money is helping, i will assume using for handouts and paying for accommodations for people who not belong here:(( and other countries
Yes yes yes!
The USA has some of the lowest taxes compare to other countries.
@@EarlBalentinemost reports that claim this are ignoring many of the local and state taxes and they are all ignoring the inflation tax that results from deficit spending and money printing.
@@EarlBalentinewhere they have social welfare and average citizen gets free money? Like EU?
They raise rv campgrounds they might find out that rivers will stop buying RVs and camping and go back to staying in hotels. Camping use to cost much less but it seems like it's not much cheaper anymore.
If this keeps the riff raff out of the parks, I'm for the increases. However, paying $15.00 for dumping is going create some brown fields.
Boy we could only be so lucky on the East coast. We look for state or local parks for price and size. Unfortunately many book way in advance and then are no shows
Exactly!
I get it with the cost of everything going up, they have to as well. Its probably costing them more to maintain the park. It just sad because in my personal opinion RVing is not what used to be. Im 35 years old. Here in Georgia its hard to find available campsites. They are really overpriced. A lot of the park employees are rude. There is always people playing really loud music or their dogs constantly barking. I was unfortunate enough to buy 168 acres and thats where I have my RV at.
I’m not sympathetic at all. $8 was too cheap. I suspect that rv’ers will quickly adjust to a price more in line with the marketplace. Maybe they’ll start treating the sites more like the treasures they are.
I'm glad I did my traveling back in the 80's in the US. Today I buy an airline ticket to Thailand and you can find a hotel for $600.00 for a whole month there. In the US gas was about a dollar and hotels were $29.00 to $39.00 a night and driving through the southern states you could almost carry enough cash to travel for a couple weeks. Now you need credit cards because everything is so expensive in the US. To be honest, you must be rich to travel in the US today.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I understand elec going up. Also, people are trashy and don't clean up/ pack In, pack out. But if I'm not abusing the land, camping BLM and such should be free. Registration is ok. America can't be all $$$
It's actually illegal for the government to own land or tell anyone what to do on that land that they think they own which they are not allowed to when we basically told Britain where they could go and we became our own country that's one of the first things they decided the government should not own land the people should. After the civil war Lincoln actually had the homestead act which I suggest once Donald Trump takes office again should do the same and give all the land to the people. Would suck as far as federal and state parks but I'm sure there could be a work around but government should have no say in land and how it's used.
When was the last time the fees were raised? Everything more expensive now. Pay by users or everyone pays.
Wow, I guess that the Government want a piece of the action.
RV/Camping is going to be only for those with lots of extra cash to spend. State Parks have also gotten expensive with all the extra fees. We would rather be at a Federal/State/City Park. However, as prices get closer to KOA prices, we might as well have full hook-ups. We are not happy about the increases in fees but are also not happy about all the people who trash places. We will still stay in Federal Parks and just won't spend as much in the local community.
It's about time they raise some of these prices. There are BLM campgrounds as little as $3 a night. With a senior pass a handicap pass or yearly pass you can save half price on all these sites. We use a lot of BLM sites these are beautiful sights and way underused
blame the snow birds in az since they flock here during the winter.
We live in Texas. If we get out of the state, we leave the camper behind. The fuel burn isn't worth it. MJ is looking good. I miss the chandelier cap.
lol it will make a return not to worry
What is MJ or chandelier cap?
As others have stated, a minority of irresponsible campers are likely the cause of increased costs.
BLM has employees they have to pay, machinery & equipment for maintenance, etc.
I really don’t see why taxpayers should subsidize RVers. BLM should be able to cover their costs.
The problem is, it’s never enough. We started camping in a pickup in 1969. VA state parks were $1 per night memorial-labor day, free the other 9 months. There was no charge for day use like fishing, hiking, etc. Now it’s $7 a day to just ride in weekdays, $10 on weekends. We used to be able to cut dead wood for firewood, now you can’t bring your own wood, and it’s probably $1 per stick of wood. It gets better. The firewood is cut, split and stacked by a volunteer group called friends of Pocahontas park. So the use free labor for the wood, and literally make thousands on the wood. Oh, now it’s $35 a night. And please no comments about tgey have to pay workers. These parks were built by the CCC’s during the depression by our tax dollars. We pay income state tax in Virginia of 5%. I’ve seen the statistics and just one state park in VA beach gets over a MILLION VISITORS per year. At its base, that’s $35,000,000 in just camping fees for one park. Our local park gets 1,250,000 visitors per year. They also sell stuff at the camp stores, rent boats, kayaks, have paid concerts, etc. I guarantee the revenue from one park, pays to run them all, but the state takes all the profits and puts them back into the general fund for the state. If the fees went into the state park coffers, I guartgey could cut costs by 75% and break even. These parks were built with tax money and should be priced for all to enjoy. Especially for VA residents that already pay state taxes. Not a rant but just frustrating. After age 62, thankfully Federal campgrounds are $14 a night. I’m sure the wave of people living in cars, trucks, vans, campers on the BLM land is behind this great surge in prices. They were probably designed for occasional recreational use, not full time living, wear and tear, and unfortunately abused by the same people. Not what I expected in retirement, thanks
It's for your own safety.
The increase is to much and no longer worth it for sights with no hook ups etc.
Do you think it’s because so many people are squatting and cleaning up after themselves?
Can't imagine the government wanting to intrude in our lives more and squeeze more hard earned money from us. Love my country, but sometimes, yikes. 😂🇺🇸 Take care.
I agree. This is ridiculous. Contact your congressperson and senators and tell them to put a stop to these proposed price hikes immediately.
They are doing a dam good job at it .
You could do a follow-up video with an in-depth look at all the closures out west due to damage and dumping being done by the "inconsiderate" on the govt camping lands. It is getting bad, especially CA/AZ areas. These areas will be closed, probably permanently. Cheers.
It’s a shame.
Never been to a BLM campsite/campground as I am East of the Mississippi River!
You're right I live in the Parker/Havasu area of AZ. I have no problem with snowbirds and normal RVers. Problem is this whole RV/van life thing took off because of how some portray it on social media. It's portrayed as a cheap and easy lifestyle to live. People find out right away it's not. We have many nomads that cannot afford the lifestyle. Then when they have to choose between gas or paying to dump their tanks or trash at the dump. They dump everything on BLM land. Then add in the drugs and increased petty theft from some of these nomads. Closures will continue to expand and fees will also go up.
It’s a form of taxation.
I've been to many BLM sites in the southwest, I've talked to rangers and seen for myself they have a massive amount of "homeless" people living in their cars on BLM land, all of their trash and everything else.. ends up on the ground, they needed a way to force them out and fees/permits due a pretty good job of it along with inflation raising the price of everything...
That makes sense thanks
A lot of them are there because of some people pushing the cheap and easy life on social media. It costs more to be a full-time nomad full time than people think.
I have been full time travelling for 14 years and have never stayed on BLM land. However, money printing has made everything more expensive.