But isn’t that part of having a brand? Take Beyonce for example, she’s known for having choreography in her tours/artistry because that’s what she wants. So when people go to the concerts, they expect that from her. Then we have someone like Adele, who is not know for having choreography. She just sings her heart out. When you go to an Adele concert, you’re not expecting her to be dancing. With the being said, Dua just need to figure out what she wants her fans to know her as. Will she be like Adele, who just sings or like Beyoncé, who does crazy choreography and visuals.
@@porosnax2269 she is mediocre. Taylor also can’t sing the best but she makes up for it with her writing. Dua is a jack of all trades but a master of none. That’s why she won’t reach the heights of the legends. Every legend had that one thing they were a master of. For MJ it was dancing, for Mariah and Whitney it was their vocals, etc etc. Dua is an okay singer, she’s an okay dancer and her writing also okay.
You cant call her a jack of all trades, and mediocre at the same time. That makes no sense. To be a jack of all trades is to be adept in multiple areas. If she is mediocre, then she cant be a jack of all trades
Dua doesnt sing well enough to just stand there I think and she can't really dance so she shouldn't be forced to do it. She has to figure out her performance preferences and get better at that. Cause she could kinda do whatever she wants as long as she commands the stage
Lol imagine expecting Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey to get on stage and dance while they're singing....... you wouldn't. Their talent, costumes and stage presence made up for it.
Imagine even thinking to put Ed on the same level as those two no hate towards Ed I like some of his music but their voices are the instruments and their choreography they had to time those notes just right
@@FlawlessQueen0906 Well the thing is, all of them-including Ed, never tried to do a full on choreographed show, bc that’s not what they do/known for. When Dua first started to dance and have backup dancers, she did REALLY bad, and it only highlighted her lack of stage presence. If you’re going to do something different, make sure you do it well/know what you’re doing. As another comment said, if a celebrity that doesn’t know how to play the guitar goes up on stage and tries to act like they know how to, they will get backlash-this is the same thing with Dua
I get the point dua is trying to make about obvious double standards in the media.. but this is the worst way to do it lol you can literally debunk her argument in less than a minute
I just wish she didn't use the instrument example. But I for one think she's right. Coming from a black girl who wanted to sing it was expected for me to dance as well. Cuz then again it's like if if you aren't going to sing and dance we don't want you. All guys have to do is single or wrap you don't really got to dance. Name one famous female singer who doesn't dance 😂
No offence but I honestly think she’s just trying to use feminism to make excuse for her poor stage presence and singing while discrediting and bringing down male artists that actually work their ass off just to put herself up🤷🤷
@@rosesmith3971 wtf?? Have you seen Bruno Mars? He dances Bette than most female artists but no one gives a shit🤷 Harry styles, Jason derulo Justin timberlake etc dances too🤷 not to be rude but It’s funny how Dua has such poor stage presence but she could easily get away with it cuz yall support whatever women do right? She makes it sound like male artists don’t have talent and don’t work hard which is degrading.
I think she got her words wrong. I think she was talking in the scope of pop dance music, which... a lot of dudes just don't really bring it. Dancing for women is a must. I don't think she was trying to make an earth shattering comparison or shade anyone who doesn't dance, but she definitely could've made that clear
You could be right about the comment, just being to self involved to realize it wasn't the right thing to say....most men don't dance on stage because they are not in a boy band...boy bands almost always danced.... ED for example, isn't trying to make you shake your ass in a club, that isn't his music. If you ever go to a rock concert, they are working their asses off to play their instruments, sing, and make you feel alive in the crowd. Women who put out dance club tracks are expected to dance because that is what they want you to do in the crowd or in the club... That is what they do, it isn't because they are women or because they are black, or because they are being used by the machine (even thought that last one could be true at the same time) its simply because that is the music they are putting out.
Exactly. I can’t think of any other artist who can do what Prince did, at the capacity of which he did it. I might be a bit biased on that one because I’m a massive Prince fan. Haha 💜
@@dontbemad6460 Prince was quite literally a musical genius though. I don’t believe Bruno Mars could’ve came up with the purple rain guitar solo. His discography is mediocre in comparison to Princes.
I agree there’s a double standard but Dua literally makes dance-pop songs… so part of her performance needs to include a dance to make the song work live
Nah the music industry is sexist, women are always expected to give a perfect performance with perfect vocals and dance but men can get away with thrusting their hips on stage while singing mediocre lyrics 💀 it's outrageous
@@AXFN_ lol if Dua is so annoyed then why did she learn how to dance anyway? People always trolled on Taylor and still she stood her stance. Plus I'm sorry but everyone has been a simp for Dua for a long time lol. She gets praise no matter what she does.
Also , ALL the girls are trying to dance regardless of the genre and sometimes it’s just not necessary . If your forte is standing still and delivering consistently then what does it really matter ? Not everyone needs to or be good at dancing and running around stage
@@soso-mx8nb because she has a legacy from the time studio and choreographers though she should be hidden as much as possible - they had her sit down in her music video and then covered her up in biggest, baggiest trench coat they could find in the next one. The fact that she doesn't have to dance is, in my opinion, a side effect of being labelled as "fat signer" for ages. They probably wouldn't let her dance back then even if she wanted to :(
I don't think its that deep. I don't think dua is going out of her way to disrespect all these artists who don't dance on stage, its a short sighted answer, it was definitely more geared towards the double standard mentioned in the video. She probably thought it was unfair how the internet joked about her dancing and stage presence for years until recently. But I see that more as, if you're going to do it make sure you do it properly. If any of the artists go up to try to play the guitar and do it shitty I'm sure the internet would do their thing on them, too. Like now that she's shown that she can dance no one's making fun of her anymore, in fact she's getting extra praise for putting in the effort.
that's the thing her dancing was horrid and she had no stage presence, than she became a meme. Those male artists usually play the guitar, write their songs and sing. She can't do that but now she has become and better dancer so kudos to her
@@GABE_is_here lol the entire boy band era of the 2000s did exactly that. Also, you’re clearly not understanding the topic of this video. Dancing does not mean an artist is better than someone who doesnt. What are you talking about “male artists don’t try to put on a show”. A show does not always equal dancing. There are many bands who put on great shows without dance numbers. The point of this video is to show people not dancing doesn’t mean a show isn’t great
@@uhuhjones6088 I agree, but I said "there's not many" of them, not all. I'm referring to male artists that do the bare minimum on stage. Also to clarify, to put on a show doesn't necessarily mean dancing. I mean the show as a whole, including visuals, variations, how they use their stage, etc. I don't expect Kanye to do what Britney Spears do. He's already a good performer in his own ways. Adele also doesn't dance but she's still a great performer. It's just that not many male artists that come to mind that do what the female artists mostly do; putting on a good show.
You don't need crazy choreography or choreography at all to put on a great show. You need stage presence. That's it. A lot of artists NEED choreography to make up for the lack of genuine stage presence, Dua Lipa falls into that category. I agree with the costuming part, female artists are expected to be more glamed up and it's not fair, but everything else she said is stupid
She definitely does not need choreography. I saw her live, and her tour does lots of dancing, but she had songs where it was just her feeling herself and singing and she did just as well. If anything it's just a preference that gets treated like law for female performers.
@Yuh get into it I disagree with that last part, it's not treated like a law. Dua lipa is doing dance or pop music, choreography is expected with that genre. Nobody expects choreography from female artists that do rock or acoustic or powerful ballads. I've never heard anybody complain about Whitney Huston not having choreography.
@FF. people criticise them all the time lmao. Also, Ed mostly does acoustic on stage, what kind of choreo is he supposed to have with that? He's selling out stadiums all across the world so obviously millions of people love his style of performing, me included. And shawn mendes is constantly called boring, he's never been praised for his performances lol.
@@ff.3288 taylor is an amazing performer. She doesn't need to be a crazy dancer or vocalist to be a great performer. She owns a stage and that's all it takes to give a great show. That's why some of her tours are the highest grossing ever.
Yeah, but at least she has amazing vocals to compensate for lack of choreography/playing other instruments All she has to do is sing and she can move her audience like no other
This comment game me a flashback to Dua's performance performing in Grammys 2021? 2019? It was legendary, heartbreaking, beautiful, raw talent shining through One of the only times I really felt an impact by one her performances
Honestly Dua isn’t really in a place to criticize any performers in the industry since she JUST started adding energy to her live shows and it took massive amounts of online trolling to get her there. However energy isn’t the only thing that makes you a good performer. She isn’t the strongest singer, her stage presence is alright, and her choreography is boring. Nothing has really changed expect for the fact that she looks like she cares now.
Key phrase of this entire video "STAGE PRESENCE" it's not about eye catching complex choreography or guitar solo, elaborate outfits, production, props, genre's or even vocals it's about having the stage presence to pull in the audience that's makes a performance dynamic regardless of any other factor that's what made the greats who they were, they were all masters at captivating the audience with their stage presence, Michael, Whitney, Beyonce, Janet, Adele, Mariah etc...
That's why i love gaga, she can do it all. An eccentric and theatrical pop performance with dancing and crazy costumes, but she can also move a crowd just by sitting at the piano, playing and singing her heart out (she is actually an amazing pianist and I'd honestly love to watch her just do a piano concert one time I think it would be so cool)
I love gaga and gotta give her for that but this shouldn't be the standard and this should not be expected from artists either(both male and female) for eg I would not expect Adele to put on a show with lots of dancing but at least her live performances are worthy watching. Stage presence is important in a performance irregardless of how well of a dancer the performer is
I’m actually struggling to think of anyone else current who dances, sings and plays instruments (and does all of them well) now I’m thinking about it. I guess technically Justin Bieber but he isn’t as good at any of those things. Edit: btw she basically already has a residency with primarily a piano (with some jazz numbers)
It’s decent, yes, but nowhere near the caliber of legendary showgirls like Madonna and Britney Spears. I’m not sure some folks necessarily get the idea of what good stage presence usually is. Confidence, charisma, dance and/or vocal ability, emotion, and conviction for the music is most of it but star power is definitely important too. Honestly, many of the current pop stars (especially the male ones) seriously lack the level of stage presence that legends like Britney, Madonna, Gaga, Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, etc have. Maybe it’s just me closing in on my 30’s and I’m just a boomer about most current pop stars but I really feel like superstars aren’t made like they used to be.
@@lapissed9620 Ok then let’s put things in perspective. Britney’s first album still holds the record for highest selling album by a teen solo artist and her second album held the record for biggest opening week sales for over a decade. All of this before she was Billie’s current age (20).
This just proves how Taylor is amazing performer. Her shiws are incredible!!! Amazing props, costume changes, choreography and to that Amazing singing performance, shes dancing, getting on different stages in the arena, and then she goes and plays instruments which at every show involves acoustic guitar where she plays just her and the guitar, piano, electric guitar with the rest of the band and sometimes even banjo or ukulele, she has guests AND manages to capture the audience throughout!!! Like everyone is talking about Lady Gaga as the queen of performing and that is absolutly true but why is no one talking about Taylor as the queen of performing? Seriously!
I'd honestly have to disagree with the last point, cause I think there is a reason Gaga, Beyonce and Bruno are viewed as some of the best performers of our generation and people like Adele aren't. Ed Sheeran's skills are extraordinary but the man isn't a performer, he's a musician. That's where the difference lies between the likes that put in choreography and props into their work and the likes that just stand there.
I disagree. While that is true, the people you mentioned aren't successful solely because of their performance style. It's like Honest said in the video, I think the playing field is even. I know I love seeing Lady Gaga's props, and Beyoncé dance but just having that isn't what makes them legends, it's their own stage presence, creativity, hard work, and care they put into it. Really, Anyone could do props and dance but still not get attention. And like the person above me said, Ed Sheeran and Adele aren't exactly underrated!
Ed Sheeran is musician, he craft music in stage guitar , loop pedal and sing . And that man music is genreless when he is on concert. He often play Ballad song like Perfect and ending the show with You Need Me I Don't Need You.
I feel like if this was coming from Megan it would make some sense. Black women are rarely allowed to flourish in mainstream music, so having these elaborate dances is a way for us to stand out. It's almost become a requirement for Black women in pop, rappers and singers alike. But coming from Dua Lipa this feels so disingenuous. I have never in my life watched her and thought, "You know what this needs? Some choreo." And her dances never added anything to her performances imo so idk. It feels like she's trying to gaslight us into thinking "pretty good singing + not so good dancing = great performance" when you can easily point to artists with the same gimmick who pull it off so much better. Megan is literally one of them! Anyways, she can't dance and it's fine but why keep adding choreo to performances if she knows it's not her strong suit? It just makes zero sense to me.
@@lindavaleriaparischinchill2279 Right just look at the Normani vs Chloë fanwars 😭 Everyone wants their fave to be the next Beyonce but there's more than enough room for all of them. And if not we should make room!
I’m sorry Dua but I play instruments and I can dance. But I seen the choir and what they had to “practice.” Playing an instrument and singing at the same time is extremely hard and takes a ton of practice. YEARS girl so let’s not even try to compare.
The only thing Dua is trying to say is Most of the male artist lack energy and stage presence, they still have to work on to connect with the audience like mosyt of the female artists.
@@wowgrape6065 that’s not what she said tho. And play and instrument is extremely hard. So hard that most artists like her don’t even do it anymore. Maybe if she tried she would know. She needs to stop comparing apples and oranges.
@@annabear6313 and could you just get on stage literally sick performing in front of 20,000 people and dancing your ass off and singing all together giving energy...Playing instrument is very hard but so is dancing when u are injured+sick+tired and you have to continue for days.
@@annabear6313 I can play a piano and a violin 🎻. I started learning piano when i was 8 and violin when I was 12. I also have won many singing competitons and dance competitions. And point to be noted: I am highly inspired by Dua Lipa's stage presence and her acts, her performance and I also have written few songs on my own. Soon I will be composing them...
I think stage presence is the biggest thing for me, I don’t care if there’s a whole bunch of dancers, props, just the artist running around on stage doing whatever, or even just standing there. If you dont have a good stage presence, then personally I’m not gonna watch anything you’re doing 🤷🏻♀️
@@lindavaleriaparischinchill2279 I agree I went to her sweetener/thank u next tour and her voice was really good but the performance was ok. She has good enough music and a great enough voice to command the stage.
The thing with Taylor is that she's not a dancer but she commands the stage just like one. Whether it's stripped back performances or full-on shows, her stage presence could blow the house down .
I mean here's the thing, Adele can just stand up on stage and do nothing but sing. Alicia keys can just sit and play piano and sing. Even Taylor Swift can just stand, play guitar, and sing an it would appease and audience. It is all about how you brand yourself. BTS gets up there and performs their asses off. Lil Nas X does that too. Ed has a brand and he sticks to it. Stop complaining and brand yourself differently if you don't like it, Dua. It's hard to feel bad for you when you have what so many other girls coming up in the industry would love to have.
I kinda agree with women having more pressure on than men to "put on a show" but yeah you're right. It's hard to feel sorry for her when there are countless people struggling for any shred of attention they can get on a wider platform and when her decision to change her approach lies solely with her. I think blindly criticizing women in music industry is wrong but so is blaming the world for small things that you can change. Also funny that you put in Taylor when she was initially praised for her tours rather than vocals and then her vocals grew so much stronger that now she can bypass every show and just sing in front of a screen and still make people go wild
@@MarcusFrederiksen in the beginning of her career, and Adele sings sad music though so obviously she’s not going to dance with songs like rolling in the deep or hello.
It’s because without her choreo dua is boring on stage, and I am a fan of hers saying this lol she lacks presence and that’s why she’s saying this. It’s an insecurity it seems
Literally, I feel like ppl think stage presence is either dancing or singing EXCEPTIONALLY well. It’s not, it’s your facial expressions, how you move your body, how you engage with your audience etc. it doesn’t matter if you dance or not, if you got no stage presence, then you are just a bad performer period. Dua is an example of that 😬👀
@@Stoopidxoolin Not overrated at all. The song is a masterpiece and it deserves the praise and fame More like timeless masterpiece than "overrated song" ..
IKR! she’s always bringing talented male artists down and say they don’t have talent just to make an excuse for her poor stage presence and singing! Like every time it happens she would just use feminism as an excuse🙄🙄that’s what Selena Gomez does too! what a jerk honestly
In my opinion it really depends of the music genre. If it’s a dance music performance then you would likely see some dancing but if it’s an acoustic performances u would see a guitar or an instrument and it also depends on the artist like you wouldn’t really see Ed Sheehan or Elton John dancing since no offence but they can’t really dance
Is there a major male artist at the moment who isn’t playing an instrument or dancing? There are few people (outside of rap) who can get away with just singing (mainly the balladeers, like Adele or Mariah or Celine). Of course there are artists who even do both like Gaga (as you said). Personally I’m getting bored of every female trying to be Beyoncé, just as I got bored of every male trying to Michael until a few years ago.
You know what’s really amazing though, is how iconic both Michael and Bey were in the industry, and how they shifted and influenced the music industry and all the new artist today. Truly legends!✨
It goes back to something you said in a previous video- there are songwriters, and the performers. One cannot expect an artist like Ed to start giving firey shows if his basis of talent is songwriting and guitar. But there are very few who have mastered both aspects.
Ur wrong. In this generation when female artists have shitty performances, they could just talk about feminism and ppl with let them get away with it🤷🤷 and they discredit male artists that actually work hard and dance their asses off unlike Dua lipa herself🤷🤷
Male artists like Jason derulo, harry styles, Justin timberlake, user etc dance too🤷 especially Bruno Mars he dances better than most female artists who doesn’t work and talk shit about them. But no one cares at the end🤷🤷
(Multi-)Instruments artists aren't expected to resort to dancing for their shows because their entire artistry is primarily based on their inherent musical skills, compared to "gimmick" performers whose talent doesn't really include that.
@@leteflondondu92 That's the reason why most instrument playing artists just don't play 4 chords and then leave. Some play an entire song while serving some good vocals and we're all here for this type of work ethic and talent.
Yes and yes...I'm sick and tired of these silly arguments on men just "standing". If he can get me to FEEL, I don't give a shit about whatever gimmicks. I mean, look at Jesy Nelson's Jingle Bell Ball performance. It had gimmicks, choreo and fell flat completely!
I find this comment from Dua to be exceptionally hypocritical given her live performance for the Future Nostalgia Tour was shockingly underwhelming imo. Her concert felt totally impersonal, contrary to those musicians who sit and play an instrument that she criticizes as non-entertaining.
@@Solo-vh9fm She wasn't necessarily bad, but she pretty much just ran through her set-list straight with almost no audience interaction beyond something on the line of "thank you so much!" The best live artists are those who make the concert feel special and personal, as well as put on good performances. She sounded fine, but was hardly a showman and the way she went through her show made it seem like she just wanted to get out and move onto the next tour destination.
@@MrRapmaster19 I thought her tour was phenomenal. And what part of the show felt “impersonal”, her personality was showing wonders. She interacted with the crowd throughout the show, especially during “Be The One”. Sticking your hand out the crowd isn’t the only crowd interaction. Her singing was great too. No autotune needed, sounded just like her songs and a few back up singers.
I get what she’s saying but look a lot of famous rap artist and you’ll see how men can command a stage without “doing much”. I went to a drake show and the atmosphere was on a 10 the whole night and he didn’t even have to dance to get all to have fun his energy and the way he interacted and involved the crowd made the night fun that is what stage presence is all about how you win over a crowd
It's simple, Dua lipa doesn't have an outstanding voice, at least nothing out of the ordinary among competent singers. She's got great catchy hits though, so she's gotta compensate for all this in her performance. She also isn't a great dancer/choreographer like a beyonce, so she's just a pop star trying to do the best with what's she's got 🤷🏽♂️
Says that while artists like Adele and Sia exist, who don't even move half as much as "the guy with the guitar" but can move a stadium. I think there's also a little more appreciation for actual musicians and songwriters as opposed to half decent karaoke singers who have their material written for them. Ed Sheeran is one of the greatest songwriters, singers, and overall performers of our generation, and his songs are much more successful. That is why it's a different atmosphere when he is on stage, people know they are witnessing something truly special. Dua isn't even in the same league, and her name isn't going to be on the lips of people 20 years from now, especially with that overly entitled attitude.
ed sheeran music is mediocre as fuck.playing guitar doesn't mean sh*t when he plagiarised countless artist (dua sucks too but lts not act like ed sheeran is genius he isn't).
I agree with the video. A singer's job is to sing and to give us a performance (not necesserily dancing) to entertain us. If you can sing/rap really, really well but don't dance, that shouldn't be a problem. A lot of amazing singers, writers or etc. (for exemple Adele, Mariah) don't dance. Imo, they'll be remembered more than just a normal singer who can dance. But I do agree about expectations people have for women about dancing... But at the same time, those expectations are here for people who, maybe, are mediocre at singing and who NEED dancing to be interesting...
Dua Lipa has some good songs but is ultimately made by those around her. She's a pretty good singer, but so are a lot of people. She's been rich her whole life and used to be a model. She couldn't dance at all so she got people to teach her not to embarrass herself. She doesn't really write or produce anything. The fact that she so causally dismisses actual musicianship shows she's pretty clueless when it comes to music.
I didn't like this single with Megan at all. Plus I find it kinda hypocritical that she complains about the standards while, as you said, she got people to teach her. That's like me having a big nose complaining about beauty standards and then getting a rhinoplasty anyway.
@@noimnotakpoppfpsheacy2526 that’s the point, she’s the one who said it… but plenty of amazing big stage performances have the lead playing an instrument. It certainly isn’t less impressive… especially when compared to Dua LMfaoo
I don’t think she’s trying to act superior . There is an emphasis in the pop genre to act like your standard “pop-star” and to go wild out with visual appeal and dance choreography. This isn’t the case for every pop artist but it’s very common criteria they’re expected to meet. It’s sort of middle ground really. I get where where shes coming from but I think it could’ve been worded better.
i get that dua lipa feels that way, but some of the men that “just stand there” actually write their own music, she doesn’t. it’s also ironic that harry styles is in the thumbnail when he dances the whole time EDIT bc i’m going to elaborate on what i meant when i said dua doesn’t write her songs: Dua Lipa has song writing credits on many of her songs, but she’s not in writing sessions most of the time. she works with well-known writers who can easily churn out good “radio pop” songs. She might tweak things here or there, but she helps edit things that are written for her. using harry styles and Taylor Swift as examples (bc it’s a male and female example who sing with instruments, but also dance on stage) both have people they write their songs with (harry has Mitch Rowland and Kid Harpoon, Taylor has Jack Antonoff and Aaron Dessner. these are examples from many behind the scenes documentaries that look at how harry/taylor write their stuff) both harry and Taylor bring notebooks full of nearly completed songs and their co-authors will help tweak things or add additional ideas to make it better. It’s the other way around with Dua Lipa. If someone were to ask you to think of a female lyricist in the 21st-century, you would not think of Dua Lipa, you would think of someone like Taylor Swift. to think of Dua Lipa as an extremely talented lyricist is just not true. she’s a talented singer and a wonderful performer, and she doesn’t need to write her own songs to do that. However, the songs she writes are mostly written for her, while she changes a little bit after. I agree that women are not treated fairly in the music industry, but I would also argue that it’s not fair to the band that Dua Lipa‘s team ripped off levitating from🤷🏻♀️
@@shawtybae4252 she has credits on some, but not all of her stuff. she also writes with a really big team and her biggest songs were written for her. no hate that she doesn’t write everything, it just feels weird that she wants to hate on artists who do things differently from her 🤷🏻♀️
I think there's some truth to her comment. that said tho, I feel like the entire dua lipa brand was built on top of money and big budget from the label / mgmt. she's a great pop star, but I haven't yet seen anything that's so distinctively hers and unique. She doesn't have the best singing voice and needs a vocal coach at the studio. She had close to no stage presence until they hired her probably the best choreographers in the industry. She has a team of ppl handing her great beats and tracks that would have gone popular regardless and she just sings generic melodies on top of those already made tracks. With all of that external help (not limited to top choreographers, writing camps consisting of absolute talents, a vocal coach, top hair and makeup team, top line music video production and show production) supported by a big budget, nearly anyone could become a pop star...
Dancing does not make you a musician. Most so called artists these days are not really musicians. I would call them entertainers. Someone like a great violin player who has spent their life being able to make an inanimate object express human emotion has earned the right to stand there. The audience is appreciating his or her skill and musicianship with an instrument. When half of your performance and artistry is based on what your wearing and how you shake your behind it is not comparable in anyway to someone whose artistry is based on the ability and skill with a musical instrument. As such a distinction should be made between a musician and entertainer ( a musician can be both). A musician doesn't need to shake their behind to be appreciated. Anyway I love Dua and her songs and of course dance ability but I can't really compare it musically with a great instrumentalist who does not need to shake their behind vigorously. Joshua Bell, Hendrix, Segovia, Paco de Lucia, do not need to dance around because half of their artistry and talent doesn't reside in their hips. Obviously it is my opinion and I have a preference for instrumentalists as musicians. If I'm a pop/rap singer/artist whose dancing and hip shaking is my draw I would not want to compare myself with a real musician. I would just be happy that most of today's music listeners can be satisfied with dancing, simple melodies, and tight clothes. And that they are making these types of artists lots of money. Maybe all this money could be used later in life to learn an instrument and then gain a better understanding of why they can just stand there; it's not a double standard it's a distinction between how two different types of art can be appreciated one doesn't depend on body movements.
Then there is the fact that pop singers sing along to backing track vocals. Even with Doja cat - the main vocal you hear is the backing track vocal, with her vocal sat underneath. Pop singers will sometimes not even sing the chorus. They will just dance. So give me this crap about pop singers doing a better job. Just enjoy the music you like had it put on a good show.
@@Uobeor missing out the chorus while dancing? Anyway, I love Doja cat and love watching her perform, I just don’t have to pretend it is superior talent to someone who is actually playing the song and FULLY singing the song. I think different types of music have different requirements. You can be a good performer in any of the genres!
@@CarlyonProduction you dont think it’s hard to dance and sing back to back ??? it is definitely superior considering dancing and singing consider a lot of coordination. i can sing and play piano easily. singing and dancing require EXCELLENT breathe control. it’s not like she isn’t doing full choreo and singing WITH NO BREAK.
@@Uobeor depends what you are playing. Certain guitar parts have a totally different rhythm to the vocal part and can be much harder to do. My point is - neither one is superior or more difffocult because it solely depends on the difficulty of the ‘dance’ or ‘guitar part’ in question. But no; there is no way dance requires more praise. Most of them aren’t doing particularly hard dances and they don’t even sing all the parts anyway. Most of it is on the backing track and they sing along with a pre recorded vocal. Dua lipa is one of the most praised pop stars in the world and she is upset she is not getting any more praise. Most people could learn those dance moves in a week or two. It would take years to get good on a guitar.
@@CarlyonProduction it takes YEARS to become a decent dancer as well are you insane ? We were talking about Doja Cat. She has been dancing all her life and you are insane if you think you can learn to dance like her in a week or two
It has to do with the kind of music she performs, if you just stand there while singing dancy pop songs... it's contradictory, that's why so many men in pop dance on stage: Timberlake, Bieber, Bruno Mars, Jason Derulo, etc etc
I agree with what she meant but not how she worded it. The bar is really high for female performers to sing, dance/play an instumrent, and to have visuals, but as honest mentioned playing an instrument is as taxing as dancing. Her mentioning the guitar discredited her point, but I think she was more so talking about the visual aesthetic aspect and playing an instrument isn’t visually stimulating. Also there are more female celebrities that play an instrument and dance during their shows, she could be referring to that. A good example is Taylor swift, for her concerts she needs to remember her piano part, guitar part, and choreography
The progressive mindset is getting to her and bringing out her insecurities. Tori Kelly is a female artist, she stands, she plays the guitars, she sings her ass off, she's not dancing, yet she still gets praise. Dua needs to stop crying.
I think the terms 'stage presence' and using 'choreography' are often classified as going hand-in-hand when this is definitely isn't the case. You don't need to be able to do choreo to be a good performer, but you need stage presence. Dua is right in the sense that expectations are much higher for women, but up until recently, she had no stage presence and I feel she needs choreography to be an interesting performer. When she's not doing choreo, she seems to be rather stiff and uninterested in performing.
people need to stop putting artists on a pedestal. We treat them like gods and its fucking ridiculous. im not saying that what they do shouldnt be praised, but the fact that we praise them more than doctors, teachers, nurses, soilders, mothers, etc., is ridiculous!
I think she may be salty because she couldn't pull it off just standing there and she still is missing something of that superstar charisma when dancing (which she was likely forced to do by the studio). So I get she is frustrated, but this may be less about gender bias and more to do with a fact that she has more of that radio pull than anything else
@@nyways7192 she can't sing? Bro where are you living, she hits some of the lowest notes and her past four albums are all exceptional in terms of vocals (not counting the re recordings)
@@nyways7192 if you consider singing is always about hitting high notes then you need to learn more, Taylor may not reach the level of Mariah Carey or Ariana, but she can do low notes. Which is a part of singing. And as you said she covers that up with her song writing.
She decided to dance lol. I went to an Aurora concert last year, she didn't dance lol. She focused on singing instead and we still went crazy for her. Dua decided she wanted to dance and her fans just asked that if she was gonna dance then if she can dance well lol.
I hadn’t seen things from that perspective until now. Thank you for your take!! I think I agree with both of you; I can see where she’s coming from but the way you broke it down was really great and straight to the point. Artistry is artistry and you can tell when an artist isn’t being true to their authentic selves on stage, I think at the end of the day, that’s all their fans really care about. I mean, if they’re paying to come see you, they probably want to see the REAL you and what you specifically can do.
All true music fans know you don’t need a huge flashy production full of choreo to be great. I’ve gone to plenty of shows and -maybe controversial- but Azealia Banks has put on some of the best shows I’ve gone to and it’s just her and her energy.
men don’t lack stage presence, they don’t oversexualize their art like women do. If a men artist isn’t a dancer … he’s not going to be all extra because he don’t need to. In the end, if dua lipa don’t want to dance and do extra on stage it’s up to her. I know that Adele don’t do extra things, Adele don’t dance or whatever… she sings like an og. So yeah it really depends on the genre of the artist.
I don’t feel it’s that she HAS to do more, she just lacks stage presence, in my opinion. Her sets are good but not good enough to really capture attention in a way that would make someone go, “ Wow. What an amazing performance .” She always looks bored on stage. I wish she’d put more soul into her shows. She’s so talented and has so much to offer.. her performance should reflect that. I think she’d be more fun to watch without all the backup dancers and gimmicks. She really doesn’t need them. She shines all on her own.
Thanks for this video. I thought the same with Dua on the performances. With men and women. My recent comparison being Little Mix and One Direction. Little Mix are incredibly talented moreso than 1D in my opinion. However, occasionally Nial Horan played the guitar.
It honestly just depends on the music you make honestly like if you make dance music like Janet dua Beyoncé Britney Madonna you should dance but if you make music like Taylor swift Whitney Mariah summer walker there’s no reason to have choreography and honestly men don’t try that much cuz no one expects somone like Shawn mendes to do choreography
Kids today want to blame others and label everything as some injustice. Fact is, musicians today aren’t as talented as artists from the past. There’s a few but there’s also a lot of garbage out now. If you have that it factor, you can stand there and let your talent do the work. If not, you best be dancing and putting on a show. If you’re talented and have presence, it won’t matter what you wear, how much surgery you’ve had, or if you’re dancing. Sadly most artists today just don’t have it.
If we’re talking this age in music most of the women artist are working harder on stage but if we’re talking overall MJ and prince are literally the goat performers
Let's be real, a lot of these female popstars aren't that musically talented so they fall back on props and theatrics. Without it what exactly is their appeal?
YES! And they bring down talented male artists to bring themselves up. Every time they are pointed out for their poor singing and stage presence they just use feminism as an excuse🤷🤷
@@yuhbruh2925 Madonna is the first and great example of this. She is not best singer but her performance and visuals in her concerts covers her lack of singing abilities. Without it, most of her songs would be empty and hollow (American Life is an example). She wouldn't achieve career longevity without her visual appeal and antics to be honest.
I really wish you’d make a video about Charli XCX as an artist, who’s recently captured her first US Billboard Top 10 and first UK Number 1, for her best album yet, Crash
Exactly, if you look at artist like Whitney, Lara Fabian, Barbra Streisand, they are literally standing, SINGING with amazing vocals and orchestra and have more stage presence than all these half naked artists with 100 dancers…
Not true. Some artists are capable to sing and dance have more stage presence too. Those artists you mentioned already died / very old already and it's not the trend today.
I think it’s just an activisms issue thing that all these celebs need to take up so they can fit in. Dua has just taken this feminist cause and I don’t believe she genuinely believes in all the aspects of it, just something she has to do. Remember when Taylor Swift just kept to herself during the 2016 election and the following years. She got slammed by the press and even got accused of being a white supremacist. Then Taylor was pretty much forced to act and she endorsed that Democrat senator candidate running in TN (lol which lost badly to a very conservative woman btw) then she released “you need to calm down” and “the man” appealing to LGBT and feminist activists. We have come to a point where these public figures are indirectly forced to take up anyone of these leftist issues otherwise left wing media outlets will come after them (as they did with TS) I think in reality Dua is way more focused on her art and developing her sound to become a new unique pop star and maybe reach Lady Gaga influence level one day, but it’s way too early for that now, she’s got a lot more time. So yeah I think that’s her priority, these activist issue things I wouldn’t take so seriously, again it’s just a thing they need to do. This video was correct in it’s analysis. But to be fair to Dua other similar celebs have said way worse dumb stuff. Dua is actually very intelligent and the political issue she actually believes in is advocating for her people in Kosovo.
I don’t think it’s a leftist thing, it’s just a marketing thing (corporate pandering). Dua’s and most popstars’ target audiences are younger than 25 (i.e. the people who form political views based on naivity rather than experience). Some artists like Katy, Taylor or Beyoncé never once spoke for gay rights but after most of the fight was over (I.e. gay marriage being legalized) and the years since now it’s almost universally accepted in the western world to be gay they can pretend to fight for it now. Meanwhile the likes of Gaga, Madonna, and to a lesser extent Christina clearly aren’t being controlled on puppet strings, which makes them controversial but also very influential. While I don’t think Dua is some plant, it’s painfully obvious she doesn’t have control over things like her image or her music (no matter how good it is)
there are thoudands and millions of people who can sing and play an instrument at the same time, but not everybody who can take the song make a grand performance with singing, dancing and putting their artistry into it
I know miss thing who literally got called out many times by audiences for her lack of stage presence and dance, ain’t talking. Miss Dua, someone with a guitar can have an impact and it’s not all just about a grand performance sometimes and vice versa. She really thought she did sum.
Singing and playing guitar is actually harder than you thought. I am a singer and i just started to play guitar and it took me a while to get use to it, you need to time your singing while strumming the guitar. Not only that, but you will also grow calluses on your fingers for practicing countless of time just to get better with it. I like dua lipa but she shouldn’t invalidate other people’s talent and artistry just because they sing and play a guitar.
She has a point but also she is not right. Your style as an artist and performer should depend on you genre and your own brand. Dua of course is dancing on stage because she is doing disco pop music. But I get what she is trying to point out though. Also, if someone would say something about how women put a lot of effort on stage and men just there standing with their guitar, I mean it would be understandable if it was said by Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Rihanna, Britney or Shakira. Dua doesn't have stage presence and seems lazy in her performance and obviously she isnt a dancer but I applaud that she is now improving nowadays but nah she isnt the one should be saying that.
I feel like female pop stars are expected to dance and put on performances simply because a lot of female pop stars are lacking in the vocals department. When you look at modern-day pop stars, they usually don't stand out because of their vocals, so they have to make it up in other areas. Dua's vocals are good, but they're not great enough to make up for her stage presence. That's why amazing vocalists usually don't put on a dance performance because the focus is on their vocals. Honestly if any artist that's popular for their "get up and dance" music isn't on stage dancing, it would be a very boring performance. Dua doesn't release emotional songs like Adele, Demi, Kelly, etc. She needs to do more because her music calls for it.
Every Artist has there on thing , if that is dancing and Playing an instrument . What really matters is a good performances by your favorite singer live on stage
Gaga WAS, IS AND FOREVER WILL BE THE GREATEST PERFORMER FROM 2000'S ONGOING, UP TILL NOW. ONLY MADONNA AND JANET COULD OUTDO HER IN THEIR PEAK TIMES. PERIOD✌️ Ps: and MICHAEL JACKSON IS THE GREATEST PERFORMER OF ALL TIME. PERIOOOOOOOOOD
But isn’t that part of having a brand? Take Beyonce for example, she’s known for having choreography in her tours/artistry because that’s what she wants. So when people go to the concerts, they expect that from her. Then we have someone like Adele, who is not know for having choreography. She just sings her heart out. When you go to an Adele concert, you’re not expecting her to be dancing. With the being said, Dua just need to figure out what she wants her fans to know her as. Will she be like Adele, who just sings or like Beyoncé, who does crazy choreography and visuals.
this is on point, but sad thing is dula peep can't sing like Adele nor dance like Beyonce.😩
@@porosnax2269 she is mediocre. Taylor also can’t sing the best but she makes up for it with her writing. Dua is a jack of all trades but a master of none. That’s why she won’t reach the heights of the legends. Every legend had that one thing they were a master of. For MJ it was dancing, for Mariah and Whitney it was their vocals, etc etc. Dua is an okay singer, she’s an okay dancer and her writing also okay.
You cant call her a jack of all trades, and mediocre at the same time. That makes no sense. To be a jack of all trades is to be adept in multiple areas. If she is mediocre, then she cant be a jack of all trades
@@uhuhjones6088 says the guy without picture behind a computer. Sad tears of a clown.
Dua doesnt sing well enough to just stand there I think and she can't really dance so she shouldn't be forced to do it. She has to figure out her performance preferences and get better at that. Cause she could kinda do whatever she wants as long as she commands the stage
Lol imagine expecting Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey to get on stage and dance while they're singing....... you wouldn't. Their talent, costumes and stage presence made up for it.
Absolutely.. so true
Celine dion too
Imagine even thinking to put Ed on the same level as those two no hate towards Ed I like some of his music but their voices are the instruments and their choreography they had to time those notes just right
@@FlawlessQueen0906 Well the thing is, all of them-including Ed, never tried to do a full on choreographed show, bc that’s not what they do/known for.
When Dua first started to dance and have backup dancers, she did REALLY bad, and it only highlighted her lack of stage presence. If you’re going to do something different, make sure you do it well/know what you’re doing. As another comment said, if a celebrity that doesn’t know how to play the guitar goes up on stage and tries to act like they know how to, they will get backlash-this is the same thing with Dua
@@truefalse934 duh I know that I was just talking about the delusional people who actually do put them on the same level and how it boggles my mind
1:22 just imagine seeing Elton John do a MJ dance outta no where😭
I’d think he’d be having a seizure I’m sorry😭
That would be embarrassing to watch ngl , he’s better off not dancing 😭😭😭
I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT THAT
I get the point dua is trying to make about obvious double standards in the media.. but this is the worst way to do it lol you can literally debunk her argument in less than a minute
I just wish she didn't use the instrument example. But I for one think she's right. Coming from a black girl who wanted to sing it was expected for me to dance as well. Cuz then again it's like if if you aren't going to sing and dance we don't want you. All guys have to do is single or wrap you don't really got to dance. Name one famous female singer who doesn't dance 😂
@@rosesmith3971 Adele. I guess 🙄
No offence but I honestly think she’s just trying to use feminism to make excuse for her poor stage presence and singing while discrediting and bringing down male artists that actually work their ass off just to put herself up🤷🤷
@@rosesmith3971 wtf?? Have you seen Bruno Mars? He dances Bette than most female artists but no one gives a shit🤷 Harry styles, Jason derulo Justin timberlake etc dances too🤷 not to be rude but It’s funny how Dua has such poor stage presence but she could easily get away with it cuz yall support whatever women do right? She makes it sound like male artists don’t have talent and don’t work hard which is degrading.
@@yuhbruh2925 harry styles dance ? He has a good stage presence he doesn’t do choreographed dancing though
I think she got her words wrong. I think she was talking in the scope of pop dance music, which... a lot of dudes just don't really bring it. Dancing for women is a must. I don't think she was trying to make an earth shattering comparison or shade anyone who doesn't dance, but she definitely could've made that clear
yes this is definitely what i think she meant bc this is the same thought i've had
Exactly
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it's pretty clear, Honest just never defends women.
You could be right about the comment, just being to self involved to realize it wasn't the right thing to say....most men don't dance on stage because they are not in a boy band...boy bands almost always danced.... ED for example, isn't trying to make you shake your ass in a club, that isn't his music. If you ever go to a rock concert, they are working their asses off to play their instruments, sing, and make you feel alive in the crowd. Women who put out dance club tracks are expected to dance because that is what they want you to do in the crowd or in the club... That is what they do, it isn't because they are women or because they are black, or because they are being used by the machine (even thought that last one could be true at the same time) its simply because that is the music they are putting out.
I mean Prince played the Guitar, piano and synthesizer on stage and would still dance his behind off on stage but what he had was presence PERIOD.
Exactly. I can’t think of any other artist who can do what Prince did, at the capacity of which he did it. I might be a bit biased on that one because I’m a massive Prince fan. Haha 💜
@@manichannah Same. Prince was the best act of the 80's and 90's :0
@@manichannah um Bruno can play instruments and dance aswell but yes
@@dontbemad6460 Prince was quite literally a musical genius though. I don’t believe Bruno Mars could’ve came up with the purple rain guitar solo. His discography is mediocre in comparison to Princes.
@@dontbemad6460 yeah but he doesn’t hold a candle to Prince
I agree there’s a double standard but Dua literally makes dance-pop songs… so part of her performance needs to include a dance to make the song work live
But so does the weekend
Nah the music industry is sexist, women are always expected to give a perfect performance with perfect vocals and dance but men can get away with thrusting their hips on stage while singing mediocre lyrics 💀 it's outrageous
@@evonramos185 yea but he can get away with it. He was never a dancer
@@AXFN_ lol if Dua is so annoyed then why did she learn how to dance anyway? People always trolled on Taylor and still she stood her stance. Plus I'm sorry but everyone has been a simp for Dua for a long time lol. She gets praise no matter what she does.
@@evonramos185 his songs have a rnb feel and are slower
Also , ALL the girls are trying to dance regardless of the genre and sometimes it’s just not necessary . If your forte is standing still and delivering consistently then what does it really matter ? Not everyone needs to or be good at dancing and running around stage
@@soso-mx8nb because she has a legacy from the time studio and choreographers though she should be hidden as much as possible - they had her sit down in her music video and then covered her up in biggest, baggiest trench coat they could find in the next one. The fact that she doesn't have to dance is, in my opinion, a side effect of being labelled as "fat signer" for ages. They probably wouldn't let her dance back then even if she wanted to :(
@@moodylittleowl lizzo's fat and she move move
I don't think its that deep. I don't think dua is going out of her way to disrespect all these artists who don't dance on stage, its a short sighted answer, it was definitely more geared towards the double standard mentioned in the video. She probably thought it was unfair how the internet joked about her dancing and stage presence for years until recently. But I see that more as, if you're going to do it make sure you do it properly. If any of the artists go up to try to play the guitar and do it shitty I'm sure the internet would do their thing on them, too. Like now that she's shown that she can dance no one's making fun of her anymore, in fact she's getting extra praise for putting in the effort.
that's the thing her dancing was horrid and she had no stage presence, than she became a meme. Those male artists usually play the guitar, write their songs and sing. She can't do that but now she has become and better dancer so kudos to her
I think she just read some bs on Twitter and thought she would regurgitate it without really thinking it through.
but it also got be thinking, there's not many male artists that try to put on a show.
@@GABE_is_here lol the entire boy band era of the 2000s did exactly that. Also, you’re clearly not understanding the topic of this video. Dancing does not mean an artist is better than someone who doesnt. What are you talking about “male artists don’t try to put on a show”. A show does not always equal dancing. There are many bands who put on great shows without dance numbers. The point of this video is to show people not dancing doesn’t mean a show isn’t great
@@uhuhjones6088 I agree, but I said "there's not many" of them, not all. I'm referring to male artists that do the bare minimum on stage. Also to clarify, to put on a show doesn't necessarily mean dancing. I mean the show as a whole, including visuals, variations, how they use their stage, etc. I don't expect Kanye to do what Britney Spears do. He's already a good performer in his own ways. Adele also doesn't dance but she's still a great performer. It's just that not many male artists that come to mind that do what the female artists mostly do; putting on a good show.
You don't need crazy choreography or choreography at all to put on a great show. You need stage presence. That's it.
A lot of artists NEED choreography to make up for the lack of genuine stage presence, Dua Lipa falls into that category.
I agree with the costuming part, female artists are expected to be more glamed up and it's not fair, but everything else she said is stupid
She definitely does not need choreography. I saw her live, and her tour does lots of dancing, but she had songs where it was just her feeling herself and singing and she did just as well. If anything it's just a preference that gets treated like law for female performers.
@Yuh get into it I disagree with that last part, it's not treated like a law. Dua lipa is doing dance or pop music, choreography is expected with that genre. Nobody expects choreography from female artists that do rock or acoustic or powerful ballads. I've never heard anybody complain about Whitney Huston not having choreography.
@@joannaj.2787 Ed Sheeran and Shawn Mendes also do pop music but don't dance, and nobody criticizes them.
@FF. people criticise them all the time lmao.
Also, Ed mostly does acoustic on stage, what kind of choreo is he supposed to have with that? He's selling out stadiums all across the world so obviously millions of people love his style of performing, me included.
And shawn mendes is constantly called boring, he's never been praised for his performances lol.
@@ff.3288They are a different kind of pop. Ed's and Shawn's genre is primarily folk pop/acustic pop meanwhile Dua's is dance pop
If dua lipa had a strong stage presence like miley cyrus billie eilish or taylor swift nobody will care about the choreography
lmao not you sneaking taylor
@@ff.3288 She have strong stage presence you just hate her as an artist her rep tour and 1989 prove that
@@ff.3288 taylor is an amazing performer. She doesn't need to be a crazy dancer or vocalist to be a great performer. She owns a stage and that's all it takes to give a great show. That's why some of her tours are the highest grossing ever.
@@joannaj.2787 Not you praising ed and hating on taylor lmao ☠️
@@ff.3288 Say what you want about her voice but she undeniably has stage presence
Doesn’t Adele just “stand there” and sing?
Yeah, but at least she has amazing vocals to compensate for lack of choreography/playing other instruments
All she has to do is sing and she can move her audience like no other
@@akarinova yeah I’m not criticizing it. It speaks to the power of her vocals and stage presence.
@@ShizukaRose yee I know
And people EAT IT UP! like it was the best thing in the world to see.
well in her defense it would be very hard to have a beyonce-esque performance to a song like hello.
Tracy Chapman is the first person I think of. Great music, known for performing with just her, her guitar and she kept it pretty casual, attire wise.
Tbh is about the energy. Whatever emotion they are trying to make you feel, if they succeeded it’s a good performance.
This comment game me a flashback to Dua's performance performing in Grammys 2021? 2019? It was legendary, heartbreaking, beautiful, raw talent shining through
One of the only times I really felt an impact by one her performances
The only one who could throw shade on others about this was Prince, who was able to sing, play a instrument AND dance at the same time
Honestly Dua isn’t really in a place to criticize any performers in the industry since she JUST started adding energy to her live shows and it took massive amounts of online trolling to get her there. However energy isn’t the only thing that makes you a good performer. She isn’t the strongest singer, her stage presence is alright, and her choreography is boring. Nothing has really changed expect for the fact that she looks like she cares now.
Key phrase of this entire video "STAGE PRESENCE" it's not about eye catching complex choreography or guitar solo, elaborate outfits, production, props, genre's or even vocals it's about having the stage presence to pull in the audience that's makes a performance dynamic regardless of any other factor that's what made the greats who they were, they were all masters at captivating the audience with their stage presence, Michael, Whitney, Beyonce, Janet, Adele, Mariah etc...
That's why i love gaga, she can do it all. An eccentric and theatrical pop performance with dancing and crazy costumes, but she can also move a crowd just by sitting at the piano, playing and singing her heart out (she is actually an amazing pianist and I'd honestly love to watch her just do a piano concert one time I think it would be so cool)
I love gaga and gotta give her for that but this shouldn't be the standard and this should not be expected from artists either(both male and female) for eg I would not expect Adele to put on a show with lots of dancing but at least her live performances are worthy watching. Stage presence is important in a performance irregardless of how well of a dancer the performer is
I’m actually struggling to think of anyone else current who dances, sings and plays instruments (and does all of them well) now I’m thinking about it. I guess technically Justin Bieber but he isn’t as good at any of those things.
Edit: btw she basically already has a residency with primarily a piano (with some jazz numbers)
Her stage presence is messy ngl watching her is so painful at times 💀
@@djcaarlaand when?! Lol
@@PureHoneyBoo artrave, enigma etc, she's an amazing pianist tho
Billie eilish’s stage presence is insane and she doesn’t use back up dancers
Yup!
It’s decent, yes, but nowhere near the caliber of legendary showgirls like Madonna and Britney Spears. I’m not sure some folks necessarily get the idea of what good stage presence usually is. Confidence, charisma, dance and/or vocal ability, emotion, and conviction for the music is most of it but star power is definitely important too. Honestly, many of the current pop stars (especially the male ones) seriously lack the level of stage presence that legends like Britney, Madonna, Gaga, Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, etc have. Maybe it’s just me closing in on my 30’s and I’m just a boomer about most current pop stars but I really feel like superstars aren’t made like they used to be.
@@hunterwilliams8923 I’m 17, agreee
Are you serious
@@lapissed9620 Ok then let’s put things in perspective. Britney’s first album still holds the record for highest selling album by a teen solo artist and her second album held the record for biggest opening week sales for over a decade. All of this before she was Billie’s current age (20).
the way she repeated a stan twitter quote and thought she destroyed the patriarchy
This just proves how Taylor is amazing performer. Her shiws are incredible!!! Amazing props, costume changes, choreography and to that Amazing singing performance, shes dancing, getting on different stages in the arena, and then she goes and plays instruments which at every show involves acoustic guitar where she plays just her and the guitar, piano, electric guitar with the rest of the band and sometimes even banjo or ukulele, she has guests AND manages to capture the audience throughout!!! Like everyone is talking about Lady Gaga as the queen of performing and that is absolutly true but why is no one talking about Taylor as the queen of performing? Seriously!
I agree and Taylor doesn't have to act like a stripper to get attention on stage. She is just pure talent and stage presence.
(reputation stadium tour my beloved)
I'd honestly have to disagree with the last point, cause I think there is a reason Gaga, Beyonce and Bruno are viewed as some of the best performers of our generation and people like Adele aren't. Ed Sheeran's skills are extraordinary but the man isn't a performer, he's a musician. That's where the difference lies between the likes that put in choreography and props into their work and the likes that just stand there.
What you on about Adele is one of the most well known and successful artists out there without needing to follow the current trend
I disagree. While that is true, the people you mentioned aren't successful solely because of their performance style. It's like Honest said in the video, I think the playing field is even. I know I love seeing Lady Gaga's props, and Beyoncé dance but just having that isn't what makes them legends, it's their own stage presence, creativity, hard work, and care they put into it. Really, Anyone could do props and dance but still not get attention. And like the person above me said, Ed Sheeran and Adele aren't exactly underrated!
Ed Sheeran is musician, he craft music in stage guitar , loop pedal and sing . And that man music is genreless when he is on concert.
He often play Ballad song like Perfect and ending the show with You Need Me I Don't Need You.
I feel like if this was coming from Megan it would make some sense. Black women are rarely allowed to flourish in mainstream music, so having these elaborate dances is a way for us to stand out. It's almost become a requirement for Black women in pop, rappers and singers alike.
But coming from Dua Lipa this feels so disingenuous. I have never in my life watched her and thought, "You know what this needs? Some choreo." And her dances never added anything to her performances imo so idk.
It feels like she's trying to gaslight us into thinking "pretty good singing + not so good dancing = great performance" when you can easily point to artists with the same gimmick who pull it off so much better. Megan is literally one of them! Anyways, she can't dance and it's fine but why keep adding choreo to performances if she knows it's not her strong suit? It just makes zero sense to me.
dont forget when a black woman is good in dancing,vocals and artistry they compare her to beyonce or call her overhyped
@@lindavaleriaparischinchill2279 Right just look at the Normani vs Chloë fanwars 😭 Everyone wants their fave to be the next Beyonce but there's more than enough room for all of them. And if not we should make room!
I’m sorry Dua but I play instruments and I can dance. But I seen the choir and what they had to “practice.” Playing an instrument and singing at the same time is extremely hard and takes a ton of practice. YEARS girl so let’s not even try to compare.
The only thing Dua is trying to say is Most of the male artist lack energy and stage presence, they still have to work on to connect with the audience like mosyt of the female artists.
@@wowgrape6065 that’s not what she said tho. And play and instrument is extremely hard. So hard that most artists like her don’t even do it anymore. Maybe if she tried she would know. She needs to stop comparing apples and oranges.
@@annabear6313 and could you just get on stage literally sick performing in front of 20,000 people and dancing your ass off and singing all together giving energy...Playing instrument is very hard but so is dancing when u are injured+sick+tired and you have to continue for days.
@@wowgrape6065 ok and playing an instrument and singing sick isn’t just as hard? If not harder. How many instruments can you play?
@@annabear6313 I can play a piano and a violin 🎻. I started learning piano when i was 8 and violin when I was 12. I also have won many singing competitons and dance competitions. And point to be noted: I am highly inspired by Dua Lipa's stage presence and her acts, her performance and I also have written few songs on my own. Soon I will be composing them...
"Dancing her ass off"
Ma'am...we going there?
I think stage presence is the biggest thing for me, I don’t care if there’s a whole bunch of dancers, props, just the artist running around on stage doing whatever, or even just standing there. If you dont have a good stage presence, then personally I’m not gonna watch anything you’re doing 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly 💯
@@noncatholiccatholicrat6309 there are plenty of female artists that shine behind an instrument only, and they put on a heck of a show.
i think ariana is a great example of having really good stage presence. she commands a stage by her voice, star power, and even some choreo
she has vocals her stage presence is as mediocre but who cares when she is a powerhouse vocalist
@@lindavaleriaparischinchill2279 Exactly
@@lindavaleriaparischinchill2279 if she not entertaining to watch having a good voice mean jack sh*t.
@@leteflondondu92 ik but She has a Big voice and people gives her a pasos because of her Powerhouse voice
@@lindavaleriaparischinchill2279 I agree I went to her sweetener/thank u next tour and her voice was really good but the performance was ok. She has good enough music and a great enough voice to command the stage.
The thing with Taylor is that she's not a dancer but she commands the stage just like one. Whether it's stripped back performances or full-on shows, her stage presence could blow the house down
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But since rep wow she Is amazing dancing and also in the eras tour
I mean here's the thing, Adele can just stand up on stage and do nothing but sing. Alicia keys can just sit and play piano and sing. Even Taylor Swift can just stand, play guitar, and sing an it would appease and audience. It is all about how you brand yourself. BTS gets up there and performs their asses off. Lil Nas X does that too. Ed has a brand and he sticks to it. Stop complaining and brand yourself differently if you don't like it, Dua. It's hard to feel bad for you when you have what so many other girls coming up in the industry would love to have.
I kinda agree with women having more pressure on than men to "put on a show" but yeah you're right. It's hard to feel sorry for her when there are countless people struggling for any shred of attention they can get on a wider platform and when her decision to change her approach lies solely with her.
I think blindly criticizing women in music industry is wrong but so is blaming the world for small things that you can change. Also funny that you put in Taylor when she was initially praised for her tours rather than vocals and then her vocals grew so much stronger that now she can bypass every show and just sing in front of a screen and still make people go wild
Taylor swift was literally ridiculed for standing there, Alicia and Adele don’t really do pop so these comparisons are trash
@@sillywabbit898 When was she ridiculed? Adele definitely does pop music
@@MarcusFrederiksen in the beginning of her career, and Adele sings sad music though so obviously she’s not going to dance with songs like rolling in the deep or hello.
@@MarcusFrederiksen taylor was very much criticized for her dancing skills even tho she always had stage presence.
It’s because without her choreo dua is boring on stage, and I am a fan of hers saying this lol she lacks presence and that’s why she’s saying this. It’s an insecurity it seems
Yes.. you’re right
Absolutely agree
Literally, I feel like ppl think stage presence is either dancing or singing EXCEPTIONALLY well. It’s not, it’s your facial expressions, how you move your body, how you engage with your audience etc. it doesn’t matter if you dance or not, if you got no stage presence, then you are just a bad performer period. Dua is an example of that 😬👀
Her music genre is literally disco pop, if she didn’t wanna dance she didn’t have to.
She literally thinks she matters her music is mediocre at best
Yeah, is she expecting Ed Sheeran to twerk to Shape of You or what?
Too early for the spicy comments 💀
Prince Rolling in his grave 💀⚰️
Nobody can do "purple rain" ☔ like prince
😂🤣
@@Stoopidxoolin doesn't mean it's not one of the greatest songs of all time .
@@Stoopidxoolin Not overrated at all. The song is a masterpiece and it deserves the praise and fame
More like timeless masterpiece than "overrated song" ..
Ppl only dance nowadays to make up for the song being mediocre…unless ur a dancer dancer like a Beyoncé, Janet,etc
maybe dua lipa needs to learn about stage presence and then talk
i think maybe because her fans mostly has seen improvement but she is just mediocre before she was bad but she is not even decent
I feel that to this day, she's still feeling insecure about her stage presence, given that she started implementing dancing for her performances.
IKR! she’s always bringing talented male artists down and say they don’t have talent just to make an excuse for her poor stage presence and singing! Like every time it happens she would just use feminism as an excuse🙄🙄that’s what Selena Gomez does too! what a jerk honestly
Metallica got to teach Dua Lipa about stage presence becoming Metallica and Rammstein have great stage presence with pyrotechnics.
The only female artist I know who legit just wears a t-shirt and jeans and still puts on a great performance is SIGRID from Norway
In my opinion it really depends of the music genre. If it’s a dance music performance then you would likely see some dancing but if it’s an acoustic performances u would see a guitar or an instrument and it also depends on the artist like you wouldn’t really see Ed Sheehan or Elton John dancing since no offence but they can’t really dance
Is there a major male artist at the moment who isn’t playing an instrument or dancing? There are few people (outside of rap) who can get away with just singing (mainly the balladeers, like Adele or Mariah or Celine).
Of course there are artists who even do both like Gaga (as you said). Personally I’m getting bored of every female trying to be Beyoncé, just as I got bored of every male trying to Michael until a few years ago.
voice is an instrument .
You know what’s really amazing though, is how iconic both Michael and Bey were in the industry, and how they shifted and influenced the music industry and all the new artist today. Truly legends!✨
Melanie Martinez has a great performance. I’ve seen her k-12 tour and it’s very out there ! And on theme with her album 👏🏻 she’s so underrated.
It goes back to something you said in a previous video- there are songwriters, and the performers. One cannot expect an artist like Ed to start giving firey shows if his basis of talent is songwriting and guitar. But there are very few who have mastered both aspects.
Women are always expected to look and perform a certain way in certain genres so she was right about that.
Ur wrong. In this generation when female artists have shitty performances, they could just talk about feminism and ppl with let them get away with it🤷🤷 and they discredit male artists that actually work hard and dance their asses off unlike Dua lipa herself🤷🤷
Male artists like Jason derulo, harry styles, Justin timberlake, user etc dance too🤷 especially Bruno Mars he dances better than most female artists who doesn’t work and talk shit about them. But no one cares at the end🤷🤷
(Multi-)Instruments artists aren't expected to resort to dancing for their shows because their entire artistry is primarily based on their inherent musical skills, compared to "gimmick" performers whose talent doesn't really include that.
playing the same 4 chords is hardly showing musical skills.
@@leteflondondu92 That's the reason why most instrument playing artists just don't play 4 chords and then leave. Some play an entire song while serving some good vocals and we're all here for this type of work ethic and talent.
@@BroJo676 good vocals means nothing if the song is boring.
@@leteflondondu92 yeah like Charlie puth,John batiste,John Mayer,Alicia keys etc etc just play 4 chords??
Yes and yes...I'm sick and tired of these silly arguments on men just "standing". If he can get me to FEEL, I don't give a shit about whatever gimmicks. I mean, look at Jesy Nelson's Jingle Bell Ball performance. It had gimmicks, choreo and fell flat completely!
I find this comment from Dua to be exceptionally hypocritical given her live performance for the Future Nostalgia Tour was shockingly underwhelming imo. Her concert felt totally impersonal, contrary to those musicians who sit and play an instrument that she criticizes as non-entertaining.
Impersonal maybe? But I don’t know if it was underwhelming. At least the microphone was on the whole time
maybe it was just you but I went to her tour and It was phenomenal
yup it was mediocre and everybody was like Oh ImPrOvEmEnT QuEeN she lacks vocals she is not a musician and as a performer really sloppy
@@Solo-vh9fm She wasn't necessarily bad, but she pretty much just ran through her set-list straight with almost no audience interaction beyond something on the line of "thank you so much!" The best live artists are those who make the concert feel special and personal, as well as put on good performances. She sounded fine, but was hardly a showman and the way she went through her show made it seem like she just wanted to get out and move onto the next tour destination.
@@MrRapmaster19 I thought her tour was phenomenal. And what part of the show felt “impersonal”, her personality was showing wonders. She interacted with the crowd throughout the show, especially during “Be The One”. Sticking your hand out the crowd isn’t the only crowd interaction. Her singing was great too. No autotune needed, sounded just like her songs and a few back up singers.
i like harry, taylor and billies stage presence personally
I get what she’s saying but look a lot of famous rap artist and you’ll see how men can command a stage without “doing much”. I went to a drake show and the atmosphere was on a 10 the whole night and he didn’t even have to dance to get all to have fun his energy and the way he interacted and involved the crowd made the night fun that is what stage presence is all about how you win over a crowd
yea i dont like his music but he is a performer
rap is the worst exemple you can get cause many ,including rap fans theselves, reconizes hip hop show are the worst.
@@leteflondondu92 and Drake does it really well.
It's simple, Dua lipa doesn't have an outstanding voice, at least nothing out of the ordinary among competent singers. She's got great catchy hits though, so she's gotta compensate for all this in her performance. She also isn't a great dancer/choreographer like a beyonce, so she's just a pop star trying to do the best with what's she's got 🤷🏽♂️
Says that while artists like Adele and Sia exist, who don't even move half as much as "the guy with the guitar" but can move a stadium. I think there's also a little more appreciation for actual musicians and songwriters as opposed to half decent karaoke singers who have their material written for them. Ed Sheeran is one of the greatest songwriters, singers, and overall performers of our generation, and his songs are much more successful. That is why it's a different atmosphere when he is on stage, people know they are witnessing something truly special. Dua isn't even in the same league, and her name isn't going to be on the lips of people 20 years from now, especially with that overly entitled attitude.
ed sheeran music is mediocre as fuck.playing guitar doesn't mean sh*t when he plagiarised countless artist (dua sucks too but lts not act like ed sheeran is genius he isn't).
Also Mariah writes and sings her songs as well as Taylor
I agree with the video. A singer's job is to sing and to give us a performance (not necesserily dancing) to entertain us. If you can sing/rap really, really well but don't dance, that shouldn't be a problem. A lot of amazing singers, writers or etc. (for exemple Adele, Mariah) don't dance. Imo, they'll be remembered more than just a normal singer who can dance. But I do agree about expectations people have for women about dancing... But at the same time, those expectations are here for people who, maybe, are mediocre at singing and who NEED dancing to be interesting...
Dua Lipa has some good songs but is ultimately made by those around her. She's a pretty good singer, but so are a lot of people. She's been rich her whole life and used to be a model. She couldn't dance at all so she got people to teach her not to embarrass herself. She doesn't really write or produce anything. The fact that she so causally dismisses actual musicianship shows she's pretty clueless when it comes to music.
You said it perfectly!!!
I didn't like this single with Megan at all. Plus I find it kinda hypocritical that she complains about the standards while, as you said, she got people to teach her. That's like me having a big nose complaining about beauty standards and then getting a rhinoplasty anyway.
Right, her dancing skills are clearly a superior talent to playing an instrument well… 💀 I can’t
Her new tour shows otherwise
@@noimnotakpoppfpsheacy2526 that’s the point, she’s the one who said it… but plenty of amazing big stage performances have the lead playing an instrument. It certainly isn’t less impressive… especially when compared to Dua LMfaoo
I don’t think she’s trying to act superior . There is an emphasis in the pop genre to act like your standard “pop-star” and to go wild out with visual appeal and dance choreography. This isn’t the case for every pop artist but it’s very common criteria they’re expected to meet. It’s sort of middle ground really. I get where where shes coming from but I think it could’ve been worded better.
No but many female artists can play instruments well (on top of my head, TSwift is especially skilled in guitar) but they are still expected to dance.
@@ducky19991 itsjust 4 chord even my grand mother could paly it nothing impressive.
Miley Cyrus is one female artiste who don't dance but always put on a good show!!!
i get that dua lipa feels that way, but some of the men that “just stand there” actually write their own music, she doesn’t. it’s also ironic that harry styles is in the thumbnail when he dances the whole time
EDIT bc i’m going to elaborate on what i meant when i said dua doesn’t write her songs:
Dua Lipa has song writing credits on many of her songs, but she’s not in writing sessions most of the time. she works with well-known writers who can easily churn out good “radio pop” songs. She might tweak things here or there, but she helps edit things that are written for her.
using harry styles and Taylor Swift as examples (bc it’s a male and female example who sing with instruments, but also dance on stage) both have people they write their songs with (harry has Mitch Rowland and Kid Harpoon, Taylor has Jack Antonoff and Aaron Dessner. these are examples from many behind the scenes documentaries that look at how harry/taylor write their stuff) both harry and Taylor bring notebooks full of nearly completed songs and their co-authors will help tweak things or add additional ideas to make it better. It’s the other way around with Dua Lipa.
If someone were to ask you to think of a female lyricist in the 21st-century, you would not think of Dua Lipa, you would think of someone like Taylor Swift. to think of Dua Lipa as an extremely talented lyricist is just not true. she’s a talented singer and a wonderful performer, and she doesn’t need to write her own songs to do that. However, the songs she writes are mostly written for her, while she changes a little bit after.
I agree that women are not treated fairly in the music industry, but I would also argue that it’s not fair to the band that Dua Lipa‘s team ripped off levitating from🤷🏻♀️
Boom.
she does write her music
She does write her music though... it's just as writing focused. It's dance influenced
@@shawtybae4252 she has credits on some, but not all of her stuff. she also writes with a really big team and her biggest songs were written for her. no hate that she doesn’t write everything, it just feels weird that she wants to hate on artists who do things differently from her 🤷🏻♀️
@@charlotte-hb7jg she has writing credits on all her biggest songs except new rules and cold heart who is a remix of old elton's songs sooo
Atleast ed and shawn sing live. Dua lipsync. There is a video in which dua lost his mic while singing new rules. There is a backing track.
Everyone have different style so….
Bruh true 💯
I think there's some truth to her comment. that said tho, I feel like the entire dua lipa brand was built on top of money and big budget from the label / mgmt. she's a great pop star, but I haven't yet seen anything that's so distinctively hers and unique. She doesn't have the best singing voice and needs a vocal coach at the studio. She had close to no stage presence until they hired her probably the best choreographers in the industry. She has a team of ppl handing her great beats and tracks that would have gone popular regardless and she just sings generic melodies on top of those already made tracks. With all of that external help (not limited to top choreographers, writing camps consisting of absolute talents, a vocal coach, top hair and makeup team, top line music video production and show production) supported by a big budget, nearly anyone could become a pop star...
Dancing does not make you a musician. Most so called artists these days are not really musicians. I would call them entertainers. Someone like a great violin player who has spent their life being able to make an inanimate object express human emotion has earned the right to stand there. The audience is appreciating his or her skill and musicianship with an instrument. When half of your performance and artistry is based on what your wearing and how you shake your behind it is not comparable in anyway to someone whose artistry is based on the ability and skill with a musical instrument. As such a distinction should be made between a musician and entertainer ( a musician can be both). A musician doesn't need to shake their behind to be appreciated. Anyway I love Dua and her songs and of course dance ability but I can't really compare it musically with a great instrumentalist who does not need to shake their behind vigorously. Joshua Bell, Hendrix, Segovia, Paco de Lucia, do not need to dance around because half of their artistry and talent doesn't reside in their hips. Obviously it is my opinion and I have a preference for instrumentalists as musicians. If I'm a pop/rap singer/artist whose dancing and hip shaking is my draw I would not want to compare myself with a real musician. I would just be happy that most of today's music listeners can be satisfied with dancing, simple melodies, and tight clothes. And that they are making these types of artists lots of money. Maybe all this money could be used later in life to learn an instrument and then gain a better understanding of why they can just stand there; it's not a double standard it's a distinction between how two different types of art can be appreciated one doesn't depend on body movements.
Even then, a lot of these new performers can't even do the "shaking hips with tight clothes" part well 💀
dancing is a art and its not just shaking hips.
@@leteflondondu92 Yes it is when your talking about ballet and other types of professional dancers. Twerking is not art.
it sounds to me like you’re mad you can’t twerk. which is understandable! i am also jealous.
Then there is the fact that pop singers sing along to backing track vocals.
Even with Doja cat - the main vocal you hear is the backing track vocal, with her vocal sat underneath.
Pop singers will sometimes not even sing the chorus. They will just dance.
So give me this crap about pop singers doing a better job.
Just enjoy the music you like had it put on a good show.
thats still hard lmao wtf ?
@@Uobeor missing out the chorus while dancing?
Anyway, I love Doja cat and love watching her perform,
I just don’t have to pretend it is superior talent to someone who is actually playing the song and FULLY singing the song.
I think different types of music have different requirements.
You can be a good performer in any of the genres!
@@CarlyonProduction you dont think it’s hard to dance and sing back to back ??? it is definitely superior considering dancing and singing consider a lot of coordination. i can sing and play piano easily. singing and dancing require EXCELLENT breathe control. it’s not like she isn’t doing full choreo and singing WITH NO BREAK.
@@Uobeor depends what you are playing. Certain guitar parts have a totally different rhythm to the vocal part and can be much harder to do.
My point is - neither one is superior or more difffocult because it solely depends on the difficulty of the ‘dance’ or ‘guitar part’ in question.
But no; there is no way dance requires more praise. Most of them aren’t doing particularly hard dances and they don’t even sing all the parts anyway.
Most of it is on the backing track and they sing along with a pre recorded vocal.
Dua lipa is one of the most praised pop stars in the world and she is upset she is not getting any more praise.
Most people could learn those dance moves in a week or two. It would take years to get good on a guitar.
@@CarlyonProduction it takes YEARS to become a decent dancer as well are you insane ? We were talking about Doja Cat. She has been dancing all her life and you are insane if you think you can learn to dance like her in a week or two
It has to do with the kind of music she performs, if you just stand there while singing dancy pop songs... it's contradictory, that's why so many men in pop dance on stage: Timberlake, Bieber, Bruno Mars, Jason Derulo, etc etc
I agree with what she meant but not how she worded it. The bar is really high for female performers to sing, dance/play an instumrent, and to have visuals, but as honest mentioned playing an instrument is as taxing as dancing. Her mentioning the guitar discredited her point, but I think she was more so talking about the visual aesthetic aspect and playing an instrument isn’t visually stimulating. Also there are more female celebrities that play an instrument and dance during their shows, she could be referring to that. A good example is Taylor swift, for her concerts she needs to remember her piano part, guitar part, and choreography
The progressive mindset is getting to her and bringing out her insecurities. Tori Kelly is a female artist, she stands, she plays the guitars, she sings her ass off, she's not dancing, yet she still gets praise. Dua needs to stop crying.
I think the terms 'stage presence' and using 'choreography' are often classified as going hand-in-hand when this is definitely isn't the case. You don't need to be able to do choreo to be a good performer, but you need stage presence. Dua is right in the sense that expectations are much higher for women, but up until recently, she had no stage presence and I feel she needs choreography to be an interesting performer. When she's not doing choreo, she seems to be rather stiff and uninterested in performing.
people need to stop putting artists on a pedestal. We treat them like gods and its fucking ridiculous. im not saying that what they do shouldnt be praised, but the fact that we praise them more than doctors, teachers, nurses, soilders, mothers, etc., is ridiculous!
I think she may be salty because she couldn't pull it off just standing there and she still is missing something of that superstar charisma when dancing (which she was likely forced to do by the studio). So I get she is frustrated, but this may be less about gender bias and more to do with a fact that she has more of that radio pull than anything else
It's the difference between being a performer/singer and being an all-around musician. The latter always gets more respect.
All Imma say is that Taylor has served it all…dancing and stripped back with a guitar.
Also shows? Like the goosebumps on my skin whenever I watch her Rep tours and the narrative story telling she does
She can't sing that well.. but her songwriting covers that part tho but selena?
@@nyways7192 she can't sing? Bro where are you living, she hits some of the lowest notes and her past four albums are all exceptional in terms of vocals (not counting the re recordings)
@@nyways7192 if you consider singing is always about hitting high notes then you need to learn more, Taylor may not reach the level of Mariah Carey or Ariana, but she can do low notes. Which is a part of singing. And as you said she covers that up with her song writing.
@@Corneliaa111 whispering ≠ low notes.
Someone who can actually sing low notes in modern industry is miley cyrus. Not taylor lmao
She decided to dance lol. I went to an Aurora concert last year, she didn't dance lol. She focused on singing instead and we still went crazy for her. Dua decided she wanted to dance and her fans just asked that if she was gonna dance then if she can dance well lol.
She really trying to talk shit to musicians.... for real.....
I hadn’t seen things from that perspective until now. Thank you for your take!!
I think I agree with both of you; I can see where she’s coming from but the way you broke it down was really great and straight to the point.
Artistry is artistry and you can tell when an artist isn’t being true to their authentic selves on stage, I think at the end of the day, that’s all their fans really care about. I mean, if they’re paying to come see you, they probably want to see the REAL you and what you specifically can do.
I love Miley’s and Mariah’s stage presence. They demand the stage like queens
This is why I love Bruno Mars. Cause he will give choreo, vocals and expert musicianship in a concert
Playing an instrument is harder than dancing. It's a great skill to have. 💀
All true music fans know you don’t need a huge flashy production full of choreo to be great. I’ve gone to plenty of shows and -maybe controversial- but Azealia Banks has put on some of the best shows I’ve gone to and it’s just her and her energy.
men don’t lack stage presence, they don’t oversexualize their art like women do.
If a men artist isn’t a dancer … he’s not going to be all extra because he don’t need to.
In the end, if dua lipa don’t want to dance and do extra on stage it’s up to her.
I know that Adele don’t do extra things, Adele don’t dance or whatever… she sings like an og.
So yeah it really depends on the genre of the artist.
I don’t feel it’s that she HAS to do more, she just lacks stage presence, in my opinion. Her sets are good but not good enough to really capture attention in a way that would make someone go, “ Wow. What an amazing performance .” She always looks bored on stage. I wish she’d put more soul into her shows. She’s so talented and has so much to offer.. her performance should reflect that. I think she’d be more fun to watch without all the backup dancers and gimmicks. She really doesn’t need them. She shines all on her own.
I feel like she didn't think much before saying that and just wanted to shade a few "guitar guys"
Thanks for this video. I thought the same with Dua on the performances. With men and women. My recent comparison being Little Mix and One Direction. Little Mix are incredibly talented moreso than 1D in my opinion. However, occasionally Nial Horan played the guitar.
It honestly just depends on the music you make honestly like if you make dance music like Janet dua Beyoncé Britney Madonna you should dance but if you make music like Taylor swift Whitney Mariah summer walker there’s no reason to have choreography and honestly men don’t try that much cuz no one expects somone like Shawn mendes to do choreography
Kids today want to blame others and label everything as some injustice. Fact is, musicians today aren’t as talented as artists from the past. There’s a few but there’s also a lot of garbage out now.
If you have that it factor, you can stand there and let your talent do the work. If not, you best be dancing and putting on a show.
If you’re talented and have presence, it won’t matter what you wear, how much surgery you’ve had, or if you’re dancing. Sadly most artists today just don’t have it.
If we’re talking this age in music most of the women artist are working harder on stage but if we’re talking overall MJ and prince are literally the goat performers
This is a very well thought out video. Nice job.
Let's be real, a lot of these female popstars aren't that musically talented so they fall back on props and theatrics. Without it what exactly is their appeal?
YES! And they bring down talented male artists to bring themselves up. Every time they are pointed out for their poor singing and stage presence they just use feminism as an excuse🤷🤷
@@yuhbruh2925 Madonna is the first and great example of this. She is not best singer but her performance and visuals in her concerts covers her lack of singing abilities. Without it, most of her songs would be empty and hollow (American Life is an example). She wouldn't achieve career longevity without her visual appeal and antics to be honest.
I really wish you’d make a video about Charli XCX as an artist, who’s recently captured her first US Billboard Top 10 and first UK Number 1, for her best album yet, Crash
working on it.
@@honestboy can’t wait!
Exactly, if you look at artist like Whitney, Lara Fabian, Barbra Streisand, they are literally standing, SINGING with amazing vocals and orchestra and have more stage presence than all these half naked artists with 100 dancers…
Not true. Some artists are capable to sing and dance have more stage presence too. Those artists you mentioned already died / very old already and it's not the trend today.
I think it’s just an activisms issue thing that all these celebs need to take up so they can fit in. Dua has just taken this feminist cause and I don’t believe she genuinely believes in all the aspects of it, just something she has to do.
Remember when Taylor Swift just kept to herself during the 2016 election and the following years. She got slammed by the press and even got accused of being a white supremacist. Then Taylor was pretty much forced to act and she endorsed that Democrat senator candidate running in TN (lol which lost badly to a very conservative woman btw) then she released “you need to calm down” and “the man” appealing to LGBT and feminist activists.
We have come to a point where these public figures are indirectly forced to take up anyone of these leftist issues otherwise left wing media outlets will come after them (as they did with TS)
I think in reality Dua is way more focused on her art and developing her sound to become a new unique pop star and maybe reach Lady Gaga influence level one day, but it’s way too early for that now, she’s got a lot more time.
So yeah I think that’s her priority, these activist issue things I wouldn’t take so seriously, again it’s just a thing they need to do.
This video was correct in it’s analysis. But to be fair to Dua other similar celebs have said way worse dumb stuff.
Dua is actually very intelligent and the political issue she actually believes in is advocating for her people in Kosovo.
I don’t think it’s a leftist thing, it’s just a marketing thing (corporate pandering). Dua’s and most popstars’ target audiences are younger than 25 (i.e. the people who form political views based on naivity rather than experience). Some artists like Katy, Taylor or Beyoncé never once spoke for gay rights but after most of the fight was over (I.e. gay marriage being legalized) and the years since now it’s almost universally accepted in the western world to be gay they can pretend to fight for it now. Meanwhile the likes of Gaga, Madonna, and to a lesser extent Christina clearly aren’t being controlled on puppet strings, which makes them controversial but also very influential.
While I don’t think Dua is some plant, it’s painfully obvious she doesn’t have control over things like her image or her music (no matter how good it is)
I do see where Dua was coming from, but ultimately I think you’re right. I think it's about how you present your artistry
Doja Cat, Normani & Chloe Bailey are the ONLY performers in the music industry right now.
Imagine saying that when The Weeknd is a thing
@@stelmaria-mx He's mid performer. He can't survive without props, make up and lighting. He doesn't dance nor play instrument.
Not Normani. She's barely releasing songs.
@@kielvostro still she outperformed all these new girlies
@@kielvostro don’t discredit my girl
Implying that dancing is more impressive than playing an instrument is silly
there are thoudands and millions of people who can sing and play an instrument at the same time, but not everybody who can take the song make a grand performance with singing, dancing and putting their artistry into it
I know miss thing who literally got called out many times by audiences for her lack of stage presence and dance, ain’t talking. Miss Dua, someone with a guitar can have an impact and it’s not all just about a grand performance sometimes and vice versa. She really thought she did sum.
this video kinda proves dua’s point
Right
Just imagine Sinatra dancing while singing killing me softly :DD
Singing and playing guitar is actually harder than you thought. I am a singer and i just started to play guitar and it took me a while to get use to it, you need to time your singing while strumming the guitar. Not only that, but you will also grow calluses on your fingers for practicing countless of time just to get better with it. I like dua lipa but she shouldn’t invalidate other people’s talent and artistry just because they sing and play a guitar.
She has a point but also she is not right. Your style as an artist and performer should depend on you genre and your own brand. Dua of course is dancing on stage because she is doing disco pop music. But I get what she is trying to point out though.
Also, if someone would say something about how women put a lot of effort on stage and men just there standing with their guitar, I mean it would be understandable if it was said by Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Rihanna, Britney or Shakira. Dua doesn't have stage presence and seems lazy in her performance and obviously she isnt a dancer but I applaud that she is now improving nowadays but nah she isnt the one should be saying that.
I feel like female pop stars are expected to dance and put on performances simply because a lot of female pop stars are lacking in the vocals department. When you look at modern-day pop stars, they usually don't stand out because of their vocals, so they have to make it up in other areas. Dua's vocals are good, but they're not great enough to make up for her stage presence. That's why amazing vocalists usually don't put on a dance performance because the focus is on their vocals. Honestly if any artist that's popular for their "get up and dance" music isn't on stage dancing, it would be a very boring performance. Dua doesn't release emotional songs like Adele, Demi, Kelly, etc. She needs to do more because her music calls for it.
Dua is talking too much. I get what she was trying to say but girl come on… 😶
Every Artist has there on thing , if that is dancing and Playing an instrument . What really matters is a good performances by your favorite singer live on stage
She wants him to dance and play guitar at the same time
She's very woke for her comments because it's not like she dances herself either 🤣
Gaga WAS, IS AND FOREVER WILL BE THE GREATEST PERFORMER FROM 2000'S ONGOING, UP TILL NOW.
ONLY MADONNA AND JANET COULD OUTDO HER IN THEIR PEAK TIMES.
PERIOD✌️
Ps: and MICHAEL JACKSON IS THE GREATEST PERFORMER OF ALL TIME.
PERIOOOOOOOOOD
beyonce?
Lady Gaga SUCKS! she wore "MEAT" as clothing...CRINGE 😬😐😒
@@khari999 Beyonce SUCKS! NO CAP!
@@khari999 overrated.
Lawd save this child! lmao