Another great unboxing guys, keep them coming. That stare down the camera at 8:36 is brilliant Zach, needs to go on your website with a "think you can roll with me?" caption.
Hi guys, a really great review as always. Does anyone else feel that it would make more thematic sense if you couldn't target lock the Phantom once it's cloaked, it doesn't seem right, still shoot at it yes as you think you know where it might be once it's invisible, but not target lock...
so I'm absolutely in love with echo. try running her with veteran instincts recon specialist sensor jammer advanced cloaking device. everyone at my lgs loves and even more so, hates playing against my build. although it comes in at a hefty 42 points
I think this ship has the potential to bring Y-Wings into a good counter. Load them up with ion turrets and 360 cannon them as they try to get behind you or around you. Just my thought early on here.
In a nutshell how do you feel about the phantom after a year from this video? :) I am just getting into X-Wing with a friend and I keep watching all of your stuff. The Phantom seems to be almost auto-include in many of the tournament -lists that I see for Imperial players so I guess it had a big impact on the meta like you guessed? Btw awesome job on the content, really digging it as a Netrunner and X-wing player. :)
Vsankari Thank you for watching! The Phantom's decloak was errata'd to bring it more in line with the desired intent. It is still a phenomenal ship (and in a lot of lists) but is much more fair now.
i played the ship (pilote echo + advanced cloacking + ugnaugh crew member + fire control systhem and +2 pilote value) and he finished on a 1vs1 against an x-wing... well the x-wing simply didn't stand a chance ! i was always out of his attack cone and my turn was -decloack => barrel roll -moove -action focus or evade and if i couldn't attack, cloacking to keep the 4 dexterity bonus. -shoot => 2 lock and a recloack i believe, the only good counter to this ship is 360 degree turrets like millenium falcon, Y-wing or the incomming YT 2400 on a highest pilote value ship (that why the +2 pilote is important, a lesser number of pilote can shoot before you recloack!)
Love the ship. It helped me win my LGS Assault on Imdarr Alpha event which I ran it as a flanker and a Howlrunner mini swarm. I rewarded it by choosing it as the first place prize. Amazing ship and so much fun to fly.
John Gallant Id argue that its even more maneuverable than shown. Simply because the barrel roll, when preformed, can orient at the front or back of the base. Sure, its perhaps only a fraction of a movement, but a fraction is all you need to squeeze in or out of a fire arc.
It's seems to be the first overpowered ship (for its cost) in this great game; too bad, (even for an imperial player) The only way to balance this clear advantage is to get a similar ship on the other side (which is not now for sure!); anyway, this shouldn't have been the way to solve it; all ships should be balanced from start....
I think the way it is already balanced is the falcon with its 360 arc to negate the extra maneuverability from cloak, and turrets. Then again Imperials now have turrets too with wave 5 (check it out on FFGs site it was just released).
That ship is not over powered cant attack while cloaked and to attack it has to uncloak it only has 4 base defense when cloaked I hit one 2 nights ago 2 rounds in a row with an ion turret on a Y-Wing to pound it on an asteroid twice in a row to destroy it. They are just as if not more vulnerable than some other ships. Also Corran Horn range one against this guy marksmanship FCS and PTL will wipe one off in a turn. just saying.
Taylor Morgan sorry, who cares about the rule that it cannot attack while cloaked when it can do both things in the same turn?? You got whisper (39) that shoots at you 4 dice in the worst case, most likely first (lvl 9 - veteran instincts), focusing on you (then good chance to hit you), then he will leave on your damaged ship a nice target-lock for the following turn (fire control system), it will now get another focus token (his ability), just after that he will perform a free cloak action (advanced cloaking device) that will give him in the worst case 4 dice defence + focus (for his first defence roll at least).....coming back from cloak the next turn with you already targetlocked.....and not considering any sinergies/combos with others Of course he could go down (not so easily as you describe though, your battle is just one case between hundreds, it also depends on who you have against, bad/good positioning, LUCK!!) I said overpowered (in the same circumstances obviously), not in godemode!
DANNYtheBOY11 but he costs so much and if you drop the points on him and trick him all the way out it still doesn't take away from the fact that he just ends up an expensive explosion just as easy as a stealth deviced fel
Taylor Morgan not so costy if you consider that you need to take him down first (and if you fire on him, you don't fire on others!), it will take a while if you play him well (positioning overall, I did not mention the extra movement uncloaking tatics btw); again, I said overpowered ship compared to other ships at same cost; if I want to win easly a match I won't play this guy for sure, the good squad to win are others (we all know what type of squads are), but they don't give me a lot of fun honestly
Loved the four videos! Great, GREAT, production quality, keep the format and set.
Thank you Douglas! So happy you enjoyed them!
***** I second that! Wave four looks amazing and the vids are great as well! May You Never Walk Alone.
Excellent videos indeed, very informative. They're clearly passionate about the game.
The Tie Phantom was revealed in the PC CD-ROM game of Rebel Assault II.
Another great unboxing guys, keep them coming.
That stare down the camera at 8:36 is brilliant Zach, needs to go on your website with a "think you can roll with me?" caption.
Hi guys, a really great review as always. Does anyone else feel that it would make more thematic sense if you couldn't target lock the Phantom once it's cloaked, it doesn't seem right, still shoot at it yes as you think you know where it might be once it's invisible, but not target lock...
This ship might be the reason i finally get into X-wing at my local store XD
Awesome ship!! Hey guys... Are you gonna make 5 length template for the CR-90 Corvette?
There will definitely be some updates to our Template line soon!
I love to throw a Rebel Captive n this also. That way anyone who can shoot at me gets a stress token.
I think this may be my favorite ship
With Echo, if you're in someone's firing arc, you uncloak bank right at 2, and hard right at 2, and you're automatically out of their firing arc.
I love this ship. Great video
so I'm absolutely in love with echo.
try running her with
veteran instincts
recon specialist
sensor jammer
advanced cloaking device.
everyone at my lgs loves and even more so, hates playing against my build. although it comes in at a hefty 42 points
+Jim Ritchings Beautiful!
I think this ship has the potential to bring Y-Wings into a good counter. Load them up with ion turrets and 360 cannon them as they try to get behind you or around you. Just my thought early on here.
What combination of 2 should I pick from the 3 expansions: Phantom, Defender, Imperial Aces?
+Zachary Mikuska Aces, Phantom.
In a nutshell how do you feel about the phantom after a year from this video? :)
I am just getting into X-Wing with a friend and I keep watching all of your stuff. The Phantom seems to be almost auto-include in many of the tournament -lists that I see for Imperial players so I guess it had a big impact on the meta like you guessed?
Btw awesome job on the content, really digging it as a Netrunner and X-wing player. :)
Vsankari Thank you for watching! The Phantom's decloak was errata'd to bring it more in line with the desired intent. It is still a phenomenal ship (and in a lot of lists) but is much more fair now.
Can you buy this still?
i played the ship (pilote echo + advanced cloacking + ugnaugh crew member + fire control systhem and +2 pilote value) and he finished on a 1vs1 against an x-wing... well the x-wing simply didn't stand a chance !
i was always out of his attack cone and my turn was
-decloack => barrel roll
-moove
-action focus or evade and if i couldn't attack, cloacking to keep the 4 dexterity bonus.
-shoot => 2 lock and a recloack
i believe, the only good counter to this ship is 360 degree turrets like millenium falcon, Y-wing or the incomming YT 2400 on a highest pilote value ship (that why the +2 pilote is important, a lesser number of pilote can shoot before you recloack!)
Love the ship. It helped me win my LGS Assault on Imdarr Alpha event which I ran it as a flanker and a Howlrunner mini swarm. I rewarded it by choosing it as the first place prize. Amazing ship and so much fun to fly.
REBEL ASSAULT 2 REPRESENT!! THE PHANTOM IS HERE!
imagine trying to kill one of these with tie swarm
2 shots with 1 re-roll vs 5 defence (with stealth dice)
Do you have a link to an image that shows the possible range of the Phantom when it comes out of cloak?
got it!: teamcovenant.com/tuskenraider/2014/05/05/it-is-far-harder-to-kill-a-phantom-1/
John Gallant Id argue that its even more maneuverable than shown. Simply because the barrel roll, when preformed, can orient at the front or back of the base. Sure, its perhaps only a fraction of a movement, but a fraction is all you need to squeeze in or out of a fire arc.
"Backside looks great, and the under-carriage checks out"
Is it just me or does that sounds dirty? :)
@team Covenant:
what do you think of this guy theses days? even worth it any more
So you two both forgot that you can add an Adv senors to the Phantom.
Decloak
Roll
Move
Or
Roll
Decloak
Move
It is truly a fun ship!
Anders L OR
Cloak
Decloak
Move
These and juiced up interceptors are the reason I try to fit autoblasters in my scum fleets.
Killing a Mocking Phantom:
Chewbacca/Gunner
It's seems to be the first overpowered ship (for its cost) in this great game; too bad, (even for an imperial player)
The only way to balance this clear advantage is to get a similar ship on the other side (which is not now for sure!); anyway, this shouldn't have been the way to solve it; all ships should be balanced from start....
I think the way it is already balanced is the falcon with its 360 arc to negate the extra maneuverability from cloak, and turrets. Then again Imperials now have turrets too with wave 5 (check it out on FFGs site it was just released).
That ship is not over powered cant attack while cloaked and to attack it has to uncloak it only has 4 base defense when cloaked I hit one 2 nights ago 2 rounds in a row with an ion turret on a Y-Wing to pound it on an asteroid twice in a row to destroy it. They are just as if not more vulnerable than some other ships. Also Corran Horn range one against this guy marksmanship FCS and PTL will wipe one off in a turn. just saying.
Taylor Morgan sorry, who cares about the rule that it cannot attack while cloaked when it can do both things in the same turn??
You got whisper (39) that shoots at you 4 dice in the worst case, most likely first (lvl 9 - veteran instincts), focusing on you (then good chance to hit you), then he will leave on your damaged ship a nice target-lock for the following turn (fire control system), it will now get another focus token (his ability), just after that he will perform a free cloak action (advanced cloaking device) that will give him in the worst case 4 dice defence + focus (for his first defence roll at least).....coming back from cloak the next turn with you already targetlocked.....and not considering any sinergies/combos with others
Of course he could go down (not so easily as you describe though, your battle is just one case between hundreds, it also depends on who you have against, bad/good positioning, LUCK!!)
I said overpowered (in the same circumstances obviously), not in godemode!
DANNYtheBOY11 but he costs so much and if you drop the points on him and trick him all the way out it still doesn't take away from the fact that he just ends up an expensive explosion just as easy as a stealth deviced fel
Taylor Morgan
not so costy if you consider that you need to take him down first (and if you fire on him, you don't fire on others!), it will take a while if you play him well (positioning overall, I did not mention the extra movement uncloaking tatics btw); again, I said overpowered ship compared to other ships at same cost; if I want to win easly a match I won't play this guy for sure, the good squad to win are others (we all know what type of squads are), but they don't give me a lot of fun honestly
Ben Affleck flies these