i have to respect this comic's restraint for not immediately making reed a domestic abuser, sue and johnny lovers and ben grimm a pedo, wish i could say that about other ultimate heroes
Fun fact, in some "elemental circles," there's a fifth element - Metal. Or wood, but for Dr. Doom here, it looks like it's metal. Sometimes, however, it's something else - Spirit. Which obviously isn't literal in Doom's case, but spirit certainly seems to be something he has in spades. Probably not the makers' intentions, but interesting to think about.
Yeah they're not turned into the standard Western elements, they're based on the Chinese Elements, where in this case they replaced 'Wood' with 'Earth'. That's why Victor is Metal and the others are the classic four.
Honestly most of my love of the Ultimate FF is nostalgia, I was picking this up and Ultimate Spidey as a kid when it was released in the early 2000s, but as an adult and a Ff fan the Ultimate FF, is definitely hit or miss for me, its neat having a more modern interpretation of these characters and the more interesting ways they use their powers, there are just certain aspects that don't jive well for me. However its cool reading the entire run up to Reed becoming the Maker, it feels like something that looking back then is built up nicely. Great stuff
0:07 Well, there’s three things. The first one is what you said, the second thing being nostalgia, and the third thing is no one has really done a full overview on the other Ultimate Universe series other then just Ultimate Spider-Man since that’s the most popular one, and Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum being rather infamous.
I wonder if Miles Morales went to something similar with Flash in Flashpoint where his mind was slowly being rewritten with the memories of the Flash of that alternate universe and now Miles Morales has assimilated the memories of the regular Miles from Earth-616 simply because, everyone forgot about the Ultimate universe I guess, and tbh other media had done Justice to Miles' character so now Marvel can Present their own Miles as a character who always existed in their mainline comics for those discovering Spider-Man from other media, I realized this has nothing to do with the Fantastic 4.
The native universe Miles Morales from 616 is actually a totally separate character and a villain, he's also very different from ultimate Miles. The reason 1610 Miles Morales is in 616 now is just because Molecule Man used the control he had over the secret wars merged universe to put him into the main marvel universe with his family all alive again once that event ended. (I believe his mom was killed by the 2nd Ultimate Venom, maybe some others died too) That's my understanding of it, basically the main universe was changed to "Give the illusion" he's always been from 616 even though he's not and he knows it. Meanwhile the original 1610 universe was thrown into Chaos hence why Maker Reed Richards is still trying to take over 616. So yeah, basically there's the explanation with Miles and his connection to the Ultimate Universe.
Fun fact: the free zone in Copenhagen seems inspired by Christiania, a real place in Copenhagen that is considered it's own free zone. There's a long history behind it, but kinda cool they seemed inspired by it
Ahhhh good old Ultimate Marvel, one of my favourite alternate Marvel universes, weird, edgy, realistic, and also great stories and fun! (well...minus Ultimates 3) I've completely forgot this Victor alternate version has a cloven hooves!
I really like how the military had to come in and save F4, it really grounds these OP characters, and it's a shame it was only because it was made in 2004 and they wouldn't do that today simply because the military is not the respected establishment it was 2 decades ago, and there is something wrong with that sentiment on its own.
you know, learning about Dr. Doom is kind of interesting. Too bad it has a crushing end. How the fuck did they make a great story like Ultimate Spider-Man then make Ultimatum???
please don't take this the wrong way your a good looking guy (great beard) but I think the face cam doesn't really work for this content, still a good video
I'm disappointed that there wasn't a banana reference in this second one like in the first one... I just don't get it why people like the Ultimate Universe, I was happy when it was gone but I guess I'm just a hater but at least the new thing will be written by Hickman so it can't be that bad.
i think why the ultimate universe is popular on your channel is we all know the ultimates are bad but not really why there bad and don't actual wanna read the comics so lets have someone suffer for us
So there is an acual Doom out there? Be ohnest with me here your last name is doom would you try to get any form of doctorate so you could say that your Doctor Doom cus man ngl i would definitly try, tho id likely fail.
It will be intresting to see how MCU will do FF..I`ll bet that Doom will be a Black dude in MCU..or maybe he will be Russian? race swapping FF and even Doom is still coming
Have been really enjoying your stuff since discovering you, BUT whoever does the female voice is just soooo off putting with the flat lifeless delivery. Completely throws me off whenever I hear them and they ruined the Spider-Man Carnage video
i have to respect this comic's restraint for not immediately making reed a domestic abuser, sue and johnny lovers and ben grimm a pedo, wish i could say that about other ultimate heroes
What thing is a pedo?
It's a dragon tattoo because Doom is realated to Vlad Tepis, Aka Dracul, Aka The Son of The Dragon.
Son of the devil*
@@nickyjudo6892 *Son of the Dragon
@@nickyjudo6892 I looked it up and it's actaully both.
@@NilFox yeah if you dont know anything about the country's history maybe you would consider both correct
"From the Beginning!"
Fun fact, in some "elemental circles," there's a fifth element - Metal. Or wood, but for Dr. Doom here, it looks like it's metal.
Sometimes, however, it's something else - Spirit. Which obviously isn't literal in Doom's case, but spirit certainly seems to be something he has in spades. Probably not the makers' intentions, but interesting to think about.
In buddhist beliefs, the fifth element is Void. I.E, a lack of something.
The fifth element should be Ether, aka the stuff stars are made off, according to alchemy at least
Metal is one of the 5 Chinese elements.
@@pinealdreams1064ancient cultures having knowledge of things like dark matter/anti-matter is always impressive
Yeah they're not turned into the standard Western elements, they're based on the Chinese Elements, where in this case they replaced 'Wood' with 'Earth'. That's why Victor is Metal and the others are the classic four.
i feel like ultimate FF is severally underrated everyone talks about ultimate spider-man glad to see someone talk about this book
Just like the last ultimate FF video, amazing voice acting, especially for doom
21:27
"If that's you, Vic-?"
"BLERGH!"
"What the fu-?!"
Sooo he is Victor Von Bum over here...
It feels so surreal to see these comics, I read like one or two when I was a kid never having the chance to finish the story.
The ultimate Spider-Man comics are the best
21:27 bro, that interaction made laugh like crazy what was that!?!?!?! 😂
Ya know what I’m gonna try to get these destructoboy comics
Did Victor just defeat Sue by belching on her ?
Honestly most of my love of the Ultimate FF is nostalgia, I was picking this up and Ultimate Spidey as a kid when it was released in the early 2000s, but as an adult and a Ff fan the Ultimate FF, is definitely hit or miss for me, its neat having a more modern interpretation of these characters and the more interesting ways they use their powers, there are just certain aspects that don't jive well for me. However its cool reading the entire run up to Reed becoming the Maker, it feels like something that looking back then is built up nicely. Great stuff
Thank you for your dedication to these videos 😂 love your content
0:07
Well, there’s three things. The first one is what you said, the second thing being nostalgia, and the third thing is no one has really done a full overview on the other Ultimate Universe series other then just Ultimate Spider-Man since that’s the most popular one, and Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum being rather infamous.
I wonder if Miles Morales went to something similar with Flash in Flashpoint where his mind was slowly being rewritten with the memories of the Flash of that alternate universe and now Miles Morales has assimilated the memories of the regular Miles from Earth-616 simply because, everyone forgot about the Ultimate universe I guess, and tbh other media had done Justice to Miles' character so now Marvel can Present their own Miles as a character who always existed in their mainline comics for those discovering Spider-Man from other media, I realized this has nothing to do with the Fantastic 4.
The native universe Miles Morales from 616 is actually a totally separate character and a villain, he's also very different from ultimate Miles.
The reason 1610 Miles Morales is in 616 now is just because Molecule Man used the control he had over the secret wars merged universe to put him into the main marvel universe with his family all alive again once that event ended.
(I believe his mom was killed by the 2nd Ultimate Venom, maybe some others died too)
That's my understanding of it, basically the main universe was changed to "Give the illusion" he's always been from 616 even though he's not and he knows it. Meanwhile the original 1610 universe was thrown into Chaos hence why Maker Reed Richards is still trying to take over 616.
So yeah, basically there's the explanation with Miles and his connection to the Ultimate Universe.
Ent 1610 technically exist when blue marvel and black panther and friends went on their multiversal adventure
Dude idk bout any of ur content it seems rad but I need to read your comics looks like you put your heart and soul in it
YES!!!!! a NEW "WHAT IS" and it has "DOCTOR DOOM" In it WOOOOOH!!! Smokey you the MAN!!!!💯
good job on the voice acting
Ultimate Doom looks goofy as hell
Smokey's funny quips made this video fun to watch
Thanks Dr Smokey for a new dose of ultimate universe
Fun fact: the free zone in Copenhagen seems inspired by Christiania, a real place in Copenhagen that is considered it's own free zone. There's a long history behind it, but kinda cool they seemed inspired by it
Babe wake up,new Smokey peak video dropped
Ahhhh good old Ultimate Marvel, one of my favourite alternate Marvel universes, weird, edgy, realistic, and also great stories and fun! (well...minus Ultimates 3)
I've completely forgot this Victor alternate version has a cloven hooves!
Bruh
Just ran across your channel. Love the way you read these stories. New subscribers, my friend. Keep up the good work.
This was better than the first
It's Smokey time
This was a swell awakening🎉
Jonathan Hickman's ultimate series from 2011 though short, is really good. I can't recommend it enough.
Not to be that guy but we’re sadists who like seeing your pain also before someone replies with it 1. Yep I’m totally fun at parties and 2. 🤓
I really like how the military had to come in and save F4, it really grounds these OP characters, and it's a shame it was only because it was made in 2004 and they wouldn't do that today simply because the military is not the respected establishment it was 2 decades ago, and there is something wrong with that sentiment on its own.
I like how you read these stories. And amazing set of hair and beard. Mad jealous, I'm balding ,,😅
Destructo Boy looks good.
I also support Cyberfrog and Jawbreakers.
you know, learning about Dr. Doom is kind of interesting. Too bad it has a crushing end.
How the fuck did they make a great story like Ultimate Spider-Man then make Ultimatum???
Long-Story short…Disney’s acquisitions.
Ultimatum was like a last hoorah as they felt they would be G-rated for Disney…
This doom reminds me of that weird tinker robot guy from spawn
ah ultimate fantastic four such a interesting series
please don't take this the wrong way your a good looking guy (great beard) but I think the face cam doesn't really work for this content, still a good video
nvm now that I think about it it used to be just the logo so this is better
Reed will handle be wrong in the future.
Enters The Maker.
The disrespect Denmark got in the ultima FF is crazy💀
Lets gooo xmen vol 2 soon?
I loved this title, at least, in the beginning. When Ultimatum occurred, and Reed became The Maker, I lost interest.
Metal I think
I'm disappointed that there wasn't a banana reference in this second one like in the first one...
I just don't get it why people like the Ultimate Universe, I was happy when it was gone but I guess I'm just a hater but at least the new thing will be written by Hickman so it can't be that bad.
5:55 that really got me
YESSSS
i think why the ultimate universe is popular on your channel is we all know the ultimates are bad but not really why there bad and don't actual wanna read the comics so lets have someone suffer for us
I used your bots to clean my 😂
Dr Doom is hart obviously
is Dr. Doom a beltalowda?
god I hate ultimate fantastic four
...DO MORE(everything lead up to the maker and that's worth it?ig)
Please cover this universe 💯🤌🏻
What is with the blue fingernail?
Doom still could have been called doom
It IS an actual real world name
So there is an acual Doom out there? Be ohnest with me here your last name is doom would you try to get any form of doctorate so you could say that your Doctor Doom cus man ngl i would definitly try, tho id likely fail.
@@nikolapecanac3094 nah man i dont got the want to try an get a doctorate ngl. But yes it is a real last name i think its anglo saxon.
@@RyanTheMan000 That is AMEZING! Good to know there is a Doctor Doom somewhere out in the world XD
My surname is the Dutch word for skull, so all i need is an origin story involving a lab accident 💀
Was the "van Damme" a mistake or a bit
No.
He is actually called Van Damme in the Ultimate universe.
Which is pretty dumb.
The muscles of Latveria...
🎉❤❤
It will be intresting to see how MCU will do FF..I`ll bet that Doom will be a Black dude in MCU..or maybe he will be Russian?
race swapping FF and even Doom is still coming
K then
Johnny Storm had a reason to be black in Fant4stic 🔥
@@remc0s yes on dat.
Ultimate Doom has got a really bad design to be honest
Have been really enjoying your stuff since discovering you,
BUT whoever does the female voice is just soooo off putting with the flat lifeless delivery. Completely throws me off whenever I hear them and they ruined the Spider-Man Carnage video
That was the most uncomfortable piece of advertising I’ve ever had to get through.
Good grief....
eh who cares, it's skippable. he's chasing the bag.
You have very low standards for what's considered uncomfortable advertising.
Bruh are u voicing everyone?? That shit is dope!