I'm absolutely sure the intent of the way she says it is not the same but it strongly reminds of when in "Will & Grace" (s2e21) "Sharon" (Piper Laurie) tells "Professor Joseph Dudley" (Orson Bean, RIP) during an argument: "And Joseph darling, I'm sorry the only Balzac you've thumbed in the last twenty years sits on a dusty shelf in your study!"
The thing is, "Balzac" was one of the great ways to get around the Hays Code prohibition against inappropriate language. They did the same thing in the movie "Mister Roberts"
I get involuntarily exposed to one or other of those shows in the lunchroom at work. Possibly both - I dunno - I try to tune them out. A bunch of women fulfilling the sexist stereotype of brainlessly chattering (and screaming) females. Chalk on a blackboard... 5 minutes of chattering before a shrilly screaming audience, 5 minutes of commercials, repeat endlessly. ... lol, you may be able to detect how I feel about experiencing this every workday ;-)
Hermione Gingold magnificently gets off the most obscene rendition of a harmless name, in history. At a time when couples couldn’t even sleep in the same beds in Hollywood!
really??? I thought it was kind of treating us like we were stupid and leaving nothing to subtlety. Obviously anyone who is intelligent can glean the metaphor to a pack of hens from the previous scene with the movements of hens and vocal cadences. We don't need to be hit over the head with it. I actually think it ruined the scene.
I just love watching the way Robert Preston moves in this film, every move is packed with energy: the way he points, waves, even puts a little skip in his walk - amazing.
Fun fact - when the studio went to cast the movie, they wanted Frank Sinatra for Harold Hill, because Preston wasn't a big enough name off Broadway. But Meredith Wilson had kept creative control and told them if they wanted to make a movie, they were doing it with Robert Preston.
When I was 11 years old in 1966 this movie played in Vancouver. I'd ride the bus from North Van to Granville Street and spend the afternoon watching this movie. Back then you could linger and watch it again if there was a second showing.
I remember seeing "The Music Man" in a theater. The audience was laughing its head off during this number, and at the end burst into a thunderous and lengthy applause.
Keep in mind the social and moral standards of 1912, when this story takes place; pure Victorian. After World War One the 1920s would change things greatly.
My folks were from Iowa. This is my favorite musical. I saw Meredith Wilson direct the Ozzie Charger Band on opening day in San Diego. My father and his brother Colonel Gene Howard, USMC, cousin Michael and myself attended the opening. Now it's gone. Daddy, Uncle Gene and Michael also.
yeah, that's so typical of a small town... all gossip. I'm from a small town and it really is that way, even to this day. LOL. I think there's a Marion and a miser in all of them.
I LOVE this musical; not just because of its great score, but because of its moving and well-motivated love story. Harold, con man though he is, realizes that he can't defeat Time; someday soon he won't be as light on his feet as he once was, and the jig will be up. He needs to settle down (like his friend Marcellus), with an intelligent and cultured woman like Marion. (And speaking of "light on his feet", take a look at how elegantly Preston moves as he retreats to the barn. Fred Astaire couldn't have done it better). Marion, for all of the brave front she puts up, is lonely in her enforced isolation from the other women in town; when Harold first gets her brother Winthrop to come out of his shell, and then gets her involved with the community's activities, she is grateful to him, and their love follows naturally. Willson found the perfect metaphor for this, in giving "Goodnight, My Someone" (Marion's song) and "Seventy-Six Trombones" (Harold's song) the same melody, and then letting them switch songs in the second half. And the fact that "Till There Was You" is one of the most meltingly beautiful love songs of all time seals the deal. A GREAT show; I hope that Hugh Jackman has a ball with it.
"He left river city the library building, but he left all the books to HER" His last move was to do something he knew would piss off all of these "hens." Ultimate troll 😂
When I first saw The Music Man at Torrance drive-in ,in the 1960s, it included ALL the songs, also the pick-a- little song reprise - I think its when Marianne comes out of the Candy Kitchen store ,and the women say they LIKE her books.
lmao i did this play years ago in middle school and i just remember everyone laughing their asses off whenever the girl playing one of the ladies said "BALLLLLLZAC"
I had never heard of this film until I saw Hugh Jackman 😍 talk about it and sing a little of it too. I checked out the Train song , now this one, is it all like this through the whole film? such awesome talent these people have, and from what I've read here in the comments there are a lot of talented people to be able to do this, you should all be proud of yourselves. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Sally Kilby, if you haven't watched it by now, you really should! SO many songs intertwined together, a lot of talented people in it, and just an amazing, enjoyable musical production!
It's August 21 and Manafort is having a bad hair day. Cohen is coughing, Stormy's lawyer is crowing, Madcow is mooing. All the networks are going on and on and then this song came to my mind. In a moment of clarity.
My favorite part is where Hill says, “you mean Madison picnic park, Madison gymnasium, Madison hospital, that ‘miser’ Madison?” “Miser Madison” must have been a great guy, seriously.
I agree, Mary Wickes always stole the scene. She could upstage by just standing there. That's what I call stage presence. I was always happy to see her in the cast in movie credits.
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Note the consistency in this scene with which every character (except Professor Harold Hill) pronounces the word “LIE-Berry”. If any US President deserves a “LIE-Berry”, it will be the one we have today.
Whoever wrote the music must’ve inspired by Gilbert and Sullivan because, just like G&S, there are two different songs using the same music that sound really good when sung at the same time. The same goes for Goodnight My Someone and 76 Trombones. I hope I made sense.
My 6th grade team is doing this play for our school this year and when they heard “BALZAC” in the script everyone died because we watched the movie first and everyone screamed “BALLSACK?!” Long story short the teacher had to explain to us 😂😂😂
zool ogist Queen? A gifted stage actor, sure, but he gave no appearance of being a queen. And married an actress. And I’ll agree taken too young, but 68 is pretty good.
The one joke that everybody seems to miss here in light of the focus on the lyrics is the idea that a guy who's remembered as "Miser" Madison donated enough money to fund most of the town's most valuable assets: hospital, park, library building, et cetera.
Has anybody else tried watching with the auto-generated closed captioning? Absolutely hilarious gabblefab! "Balzac" turns into "Bowls That" - now imagine the second captioning feature of UA-cam - Instant Translation of that mess to hundreds of other languages!
"...chuckle on cheep-cheep-cheep oh c'mon pick another more big a little talk little pickles dog little chick there just talk a lot..." I think the CC threw in the towel by the final chorus.
+crocostimpy She was in Sister Act's 1&2 and many other shows...my favorite role she played was on M*A*S*H* in one of the early seasons where she makes a play for Frank....too funny!! Cheers
+crocostimpy That's the late Mary Wickes. A great character actress whose career spanned from the 1930s to the 1990s. She played a lot of nuns and nurses!
The way Hermione says Balzac just gets me every time. She has this air of disgust but you know she’s read it in private! LOL
It's also funny that he's considered a classic when the Music Man first opened.
I'm absolutely sure the intent of the way she says it is not the same but it strongly reminds of when in "Will & Grace" (s2e21) "Sharon" (Piper Laurie) tells "Professor Joseph Dudley" (Orson Bean, RIP) during an argument: "And Joseph darling, I'm sorry the only Balzac you've thumbed in the last twenty years sits on a dusty shelf in your study!"
😂😂😂Same
Compare it to the Original Broadway Cast version where the actress basically just says the name, whereas Gingold milks the pun for all it's worth!
The thing is, "Balzac" was one of the great ways to get around the Hays Code prohibition against inappropriate language. They did the same thing in the movie "Mister Roberts"
Today these women would all be hosting The View.
is that something like "The Talk"? (ugh!).... These ladies are far more melodious!
Susan DA Actually The View and The Talk aren't that different.
I get involuntarily exposed to one or other of those shows in the lunchroom at work. Possibly both - I dunno - I try to tune them out. A bunch of women fulfilling the sexist stereotype of brainlessly chattering (and screaming) females. Chalk on a blackboard... 5 minutes of chattering before a shrilly screaming audience, 5 minutes of commercials, repeat endlessly. ... lol, you may be able to detect how I feel about experiencing this every workday ;-)
Completely underrated comment
CraftyLittleDevil they aren't quite that horrible
This song lives in my head rent free
The Music Man has one of the all time greatest supporting casts in Hollywood history.
You said it! Any cast that includes Mary Wickes automatically improves the film by 150%!
@@jasonhurd4379 Amen!
Hermione Gingold magnificently gets off the most obscene rendition of a harmless name, in history. At a time when couples couldn’t even sleep in the same beds in Hollywood!
I really love how they intercut the shots of the chickens.
Yeah, me too.
really??? I thought it was kind of treating us like we were stupid and leaving nothing to subtlety. Obviously anyone who is intelligent can glean the metaphor to a pack of hens from the previous scene with the movements of hens and vocal cadences. We don't need to be hit over the head with it.
I actually think it ruined the scene.
@@snakers716 Cry more, pussy.
And the over head shots of their hat's feathers kinda bobbing around cracked me up too!
@@leesmith5154 I noticed the feathers as well. Great fun!
I just love watching the way Robert Preston moves in this film, every move is packed with energy: the way he points, waves, even puts a little skip in his walk - amazing.
the dude is magically light on his feet. Just amazing to watch.
Fun fact - when the studio went to cast the movie, they wanted Frank Sinatra for Harold Hill, because Preston wasn't a big enough name off Broadway. But Meredith Wilson had kept creative control and told them if they wanted to make a movie, they were doing it with Robert Preston.
@@railvet1Wow, the movie would have had a very different feel with Sinatra. Preston in this role just feels right.
Its amazing, the tone of their vocies and staccato way they sing is really reminiscent of hens squaking!
This is absolutely brilliant. I couldn't even imagine what the sheet music looks like for this song.
It looks like someone crashed a car into a treble clef and ran from the scene drunk
@@cainster 😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻
@@cainster LOL! 😆
I’m playing Alma and it’s quite scary
@@lilymarie1765I'm playing Maud. I agree, it's terrifying. And it's so fast:(
my grandmother was friends with Hermione Gingold and always remembered her as being a very witty woman :)
Staff meeting. EVERY STAFF MEETING. The very bane of my existence.
I had to attend ARMY staff infections err...meetings!
Oy. No kidding.
The people who composed Music Man really said how fast can we make people talk/sing.
"... and dance their feet off at the same time!"
THE definition of "old hens".
biddies
The Theme Song of Twitter.
Pick a little talk a little Pick a little talk a little tweet tweet tweet talk a lot pick a little more
When I was 11 years old in 1966 this movie played in Vancouver. I'd ride the bus from North Van to Granville Street and spend the afternoon watching this movie. Back then you could linger and watch it again if there was a second showing.
We had the cast recording of this on vinyl and it skipped right when she's saying Balzac, so it constantly repeated, "Baallzzz...Baallzz...Baallzz"
lmao
Hermione would have wanted it that way
Really messed up
I would die laughing
Charles Bird sounded like ballsack
I remember seeing "The Music Man" in a theater. The audience was laughing its head off during this number, and at the end burst into a thunderous and lengthy applause.
My dad always sang this when we were trying to leave after mass (as my mom liked to chat with people and we’d all be in the car) 😂
LOL-oh my-that's funny!
Talk about an OG.
He was warning you what marriage is like and trust me buddy I've been married for 10 years
That is SO cute!! Sounds like two very humorous parents!
🤣🤣🤣🐥🐓🐔🐣🐥
"Music Man" is the best example of one or two patter songs and a barber shop quartet go a long way.
You are the perfect example of pearls before swine🐖
@@americandreamer6092 bruh 😅
Keep in mind the social and moral standards of 1912, when this story takes place; pure Victorian. After World War One the 1920s would change things greatly.
We did this in HS choir.....great arrangement....wonderful memories!!!
2:40 when you roll a 20 on a deception check
Illusion 100
The whole musical is him rolling 20s
“Just melt her down and you’ll reveal a lump of lead as cold as steel , here , where a woman’s heart should be !”
He left River city the library building, but he left all the books to her.
This is probably why Tommy Wiseau thinks repeatedly saying "cheap" is how you imitate a chicken.
...I literally just tried singing "pick a little talk a little" for 5 seconds and nearly had a nervous breakdown.
TalkingToMyself I couldn't do it either 😵😵😵😵😵
Great username/post combo.
But after practice it just rolls off your tounge :)
TalkingToMyself people in my musical play at my school have to do it they perfect it!!
TheAttic yeah it does the people in my school in the play do it I’m just the townspeople
Wow Seth Macfarlane REALLY loves The Music Man.
A little too much. It's almost as if he has something against coming up with his own content.
He'd be great at doing this, if he hasn't already.😁
Craven Morehead so many references
@@NyscanRohid until you realize Seth MacFarlane hasnt written on family guy since 2012..
@@trulythedude Look up the episodes that reference The Music Man. Then look up dates of those episodes.
My favorite scene and song in the whole show!!
This is my favorite musical. So much fun.
My favorite musical ever. Love this scene!!!!!!!!!!!
A brilliant piece of music writing - and of humor at its sly best.
Brilliant interpolation with "Goodnight Ladies"..Music Man is one of the GOAT of musicals!
Classic! Such a great scene, probably one of my top favorites.
Sang this in Jr. high choir some 50yrs ago ! What a great song, our choir teacher was the best ! Thank U, Ms. Nolin !
All of this flew right over my head when I did this show.
What you did there - I see it
One of my favorite scenes. Brilliant.
Me, too.
I sang this in my fourth grade music class haha, I'm in my mid 20s now and I still remember the ladies part!
I could watch Hermione Gingold all day
A Lady of wit and class !!!
My folks were from Iowa. This is my favorite musical. I saw Meredith Wilson direct the Ozzie Charger Band on opening day in San Diego. My father and his brother Colonel Gene Howard, USMC, cousin Michael and myself attended the opening. Now it's gone. Daddy, Uncle Gene and Michael also.
I love watching this. I was Alma Hicks in my high school production of this and it brings back so many memories
I like how they never talked to Marion or the miser and they have a whole narrative of gossip
yeah, that's so typical of a small town... all gossip. I'm from a small town and it really is that way, even to this day. LOL. I think there's a Marion and a miser in all of them.
Plus some miser... paid for nearly every major building in the town.
@@tejaswoman ... show off....
2:39: I recently tried to employ this diversionary tactic on the repo men who showed up on my doorstep, but with somewhat less success -_-
There are advantages to living in a musical.
Bfdidc the law says, if there is a song, you must sing
I LOVE this musical; not just because of its great score, but because of its moving and well-motivated love story. Harold, con man though he is, realizes that he can't defeat Time; someday soon he won't be as light on his feet as he once was, and the jig will be up. He needs to settle down (like his friend Marcellus), with an intelligent and cultured woman like Marion. (And speaking of "light on his feet", take a look at how elegantly Preston moves as he retreats to the barn. Fred Astaire couldn't have done it better). Marion, for all of the brave front she puts up, is lonely in her enforced isolation from the other women in town; when Harold first gets her brother Winthrop to come out of his shell, and then gets her involved with the community's activities, she is grateful to him, and their love follows naturally. Willson found the perfect metaphor for this, in giving "Goodnight, My Someone" (Marion's song) and "Seventy-Six Trombones" (Harold's song) the same melody, and then letting them switch songs in the second half. And the fact that "Till There Was You" is one of the most meltingly beautiful love songs of all time seals the deal. A GREAT show; I hope that Hugh Jackman has a ball with it.
The differences in time make it all the more impressive
"He left river city the library building, but he left all the books to HER"
His last move was to do something he knew would piss off all of these "hens." Ultimate troll 😂
My mom always loves that bit of the story!
And all to make sure Marian could keep her job as librarian
When I first saw The Music Man at Torrance drive-in ,in the 1960s, it included ALL the songs, also the pick-a- little song reprise - I think its when Marianne comes out of the Candy Kitchen store ,and the women say they LIKE her books.
"of course I know your daughter, we sit at the same gossip table during lunch"
Pick a little talk a little pick a little cheep cheep cheep talk a lot pick a little more.
lmao i did this play years ago in middle school and i just remember everyone laughing their asses off whenever the girl playing one of the ladies said "BALLLLLLZAC"
Baaaaaaaaalzac!
Chris B he
I watched this in 6th grade orchestra, I'm a sophomore in college and this all of a sudden gets stuck in my head 🤣
Hermione Gingold is pure magic!
She gets the mother hen hat, too!
Professor starts singing
The four other guys: The law requires we sing
Lmao why oh why does the ending make me giggle when the music ends? We did this song in our choir play in high school
He left River City
The library building
But he left all the books
To HER!
+Suzanne Wilson Chaucer!
+jasobres Rabelais!
+Arnie Quis Baalzack
Goodnight Ladies
😁
I just had my first Rehearsal today for my school play, and I got Eulalie. Kind of nervous, but I'm excited!
DaMythicOreo on Friday I'm playing Mrs. Squires! So excited!!
Nolee's Lifestyle I'm just a pick a little lady. No name lol but it's something
balzac is my go-to curse because of this movie
I had never heard of this film until I saw Hugh Jackman 😍 talk about it and sing a little of it too. I checked out the Train song , now this one, is it all like this through the whole film? such awesome talent these people have, and from what I've read here in the comments there are a lot of talented people to be able to do this, you should all be proud of yourselves. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
sally kilby - There are many intertwined songs in the show - it is very complex both musically and in the lyrics.
Sally Kilby, if you haven't watched it by now, you really should! SO many songs intertwined together, a lot of talented people in it, and just an amazing, enjoyable musical production!
@@domitype thanks for the info. 👍 I'll check this out
@@laurastricklen9107 yes I'm definitely going to check this out, I'm really curious now. 👍☺️
It's August 21 and Manafort is having a bad hair day. Cohen is coughing, Stormy's lawyer is crowing, Madcow is mooing. All the networks are going on and on and then this song came to my mind. In a moment of clarity.
I'm not going to lie. When I first heard Justice Antonin Scalia's 'Jiggery Pokery' dissent, THIS was the first thing that popped into my mind. Haha.
I like to imagine how the opening night audience heard and felt during this number.
I always loved this scene.
When all my relatives come over
My favorite part is where Hill says, “you mean Madison picnic park, Madison gymnasium, Madison hospital, that ‘miser’ Madison?”
“Miser Madison” must have been a great guy, seriously.
Like Andrew Carnegie!
She was rapping before it became cool.
Rap is not cool it is a vulgar and disgusting genre of music that has ruined America. It is the entertainment of the low class and uneducated
We are singing this in chorus and I need to practice my voice, thank you for making this!!
Identify we are doing it for the play so this is helpful
My favorite character actress Mary Wickes is in this . She always stole the scenes.
I agree, Mary Wickes always stole the scene. She could upstage by just standing there. That's what I call stage presence. I was always happy to see her in the cast in movie credits.
The very meaning of "old biddies".
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For those that are apparently new to literature, the names are Chaucer, Rabelais, and Balzac.
Not Jaw sir, Rebel Ace, or Ball sack. /facepalm
An author named "Rebel Ace" who writes "dirty" books sounds somewhat interesting though.
I've heard of Chaucer, but I'm not new to literature just like different things.
In the case of Chaucer, the Tale of the Wife of Bath was a bit risqué.
This is a brilliant bit. . .
Note the consistency in this scene with which every character (except Professor Harold Hill) pronounces the word “LIE-Berry”.
If any US President deserves a “LIE-Berry”, it will be the one we have today.
Aww ,pore widdle Hillarybot still all aching butthurt?!?!? BOO HOO HOO!!!!!
Trump is better than. Hillary.
Whoever wrote the music must’ve inspired by Gilbert and Sullivan because, just like G&S, there are two different songs using the same music that sound really good when sung at the same time. The same goes for Goodnight My Someone and 76 Trombones. I hope I made sense.
Now they can add Twain and Seuss to the list...
I remember my 2nd grade teacher showing the class this song I just now remembered it and decided to come back to this video so many memories
My 6th grade team is doing this play for our school this year and when they heard “BALZAC” in the script everyone died because we watched the movie first and everyone screamed “BALLSACK?!” Long story short the teacher had to explain to us 😂😂😂
Thats just like when I was in school and we were learning about state counties. Soon as the teacher said "Middlesex" everyone died laughing
That’s absolutely disgusting. How did you not know what Balzac was? Having a perverted mind is not something to be proud of
The predecessor to Twitter!
When my mother, shared me this movie, I died laughing when the ladies repeated cheep cheep cheep, and then cuts to the chickens. 😂
The HENS!!
Last night, I had to perform this as one of the four songs in a chorus concert
Wow I am getting old. Those chicks look good. Think of the sexy underthings they had on at the time.
Trust me, it's more annoying when you have to sing it. (I'm doing this musical...)
+UsCousins1210108 Congrats on the musical....one of my ALL TIME FAVORITES from when I was a kid!! Cheers
Same it's so annoying!!!!
Emily Munoz LOL....sometimes annoying can end up be appealing!! Cheers
+Emily Munoz LOL...it's a CLUCKING GREAT TUNE......I'm STILL howling.......Cheers!!
+UsCousins1210108 I enjoyed this number the most when I was in this musical. This one and Ya Got Trouble.
My introduction to early English literature. I wanted to know more about Rabalais, Chaucer, and Balzac.
Truly brilliant! How sad that old queen, Robert Preston died so young!
zool ogist Queen? A gifted stage actor, sure, but he gave no appearance of being a queen. And married an actress. And I’ll agree taken too young, but 68 is pretty good.
@@chickenmonger123 Do some homework. He was something of a queen. Watch "Victor/Victoria" for a sampling. Great actor nonetheless.
Anyone listening 2020 lol this is musical love it🤗
Holy shit!!! Growing up, this was so catchy!! That is what, systemic! I’m glad I’m able to realize this!!!!!!!!!!!
This song sounds like it was hard to learn! Phew!
This reminds me when I was in this! I was Alma Hix and that was such a fun role to be!!!!!!
Because of this movie, I wanted a barbershop quartet at my wedding😒
1:59 SPITTT 🔥🔥🔥
That’s my favorite part!
Geoffrey Chaucer, Francois Rabelais and Honore de Balzac dislike this video.
This is the view in a nutshell
I love how in the beginning of the video you could hear chickens cuckling. They are serious ly just a heard of gossiping chickens.
The one joke that everybody seems to miss here in light of the focus on the lyrics is the idea that a guy who's remembered as "Miser" Madison donated enough money to fund most of the town's most valuable assets: hospital, park, library building, et cetera.
We have to recite this in music class everyday ;w;
Has anybody else tried watching with the auto-generated closed captioning? Absolutely hilarious gabblefab! "Balzac" turns into "Bowls That" - now imagine the second captioning feature of UA-cam - Instant Translation of that mess to hundreds of other languages!
+domitype that's awesome! Thanks
I turned on the closed captioning and it is so funny.
"...chuckle on cheep-cheep-cheep oh c'mon pick another more big a little talk little pickles dog little chick there just talk a lot..."
I think the CC threw in the towel by the final chorus.
"...chickens cackling in a barn...G'arn..." (Why can't the English" - My Fair Lady)
I love that tall woman on the far right at 1:33. She's hilarious...
+crocostimpy she was great on Sanford and Son as the house keeper...How about boiled Mutton?..haha
+crocostimpy She was in Sister Act's 1&2 and many other shows...my favorite role she played was on M*A*S*H* in one of the early seasons where she makes a play for Frank....too funny!! Cheers
+crocostimpy That's the late Mary Wickes. A great character actress whose career spanned from the 1930s to the 1990s. She played a lot of nuns and nurses!
+pipey61 AND housekeepers!
She was also in Irving Berlin's "White Christmas" with Danny Kaye, Bing Crosby, and Dean Jagger.
Brilliant! Should be the song for all the woke women pontificating on media.
Even 100 years ago, Karens were still a thing.
Perfect example of a movie that needs to be letterboxed.
It is letterboxed on the DVD!😁
From what my mother told be, balzac wasn't dirty, it just sounded that way...
“Mrs. Shiv” 🤭🤣😂😂😂🔪