I am in india and filled with such gratitude that i can hear this phenomenal talk. How great that we can acknowledge our understanding to great scientists gone before and have this great man Dr Kip to make lay people like me understand. Thankyou thankyou Sir. God bless
Kip Thorne,Nobel Laureate..one of the youngest people ever to be made a full Professor at Caltech at just 30..a brilliant mind and a kind Heart ..bless him tc
People sometimes develop tics like that when they are working around a serious stuttering problem. I don't know if that's his case. (Rowan Atkinson has this weird way of pronouncing the letter "B" for that reason, and he uses it to great comic effect!) Could be anything really. (He might have a duck in his pocket :P )
Apart from showing a baffling clear introduction into General Relativity, I love the fact that when he jumps off the platform and throws that ball he indeed watches it like a true experimentalist just to see whether it really, from his perspective as free falling observer, follows a straight line.
Stephen hawking mentioned about the wager in his book 'Theory of everything'. He says that thought he bet against the existence of naked singularity but very much hoped that he was proved wrong. RIP hawking.
Boy this was a really great presentation. I watched Interstellar yesterday and searched for Kip Thorne on UA-cam and this was even better than the movie (for getting intuition, the movie if of course more entertaining and emotionally charged :-) Excellent talk!
Kip, I hope you're reading this, or someone that works with you is. There's a misconception about how LIGO works that's being perpetuated here, which is that the mirrors move. The mirrors don't move, the "amount of space" between them changes. There is an easy thought experiment to prove this: imagine one of the mirrors in LIGO being reflective on both side and contruct another LIGO on its other side, if the mirror moved it would be recorded as moving one way by the first LIGO and the opposite way by the second LIGO, this is not possible, so the mirrors don't actually move, rather the amount of "spacetime" between then changes. Another way to see it is if the mirrors move then how far does the mirror at the far end of the second LIGO move, if the mirrors move then the far one moves twice as far as the middle mirror, and if you keep on building more and more LIGOs in a long line pretty soon those movements would add up, but that can't be either, imagine forming a gigantic circle of back-to-back LIGOs around a GW source, if the mirrors actually moved then from your perspective at one point on this circle, the mirrors diametrically opposite you should be colliding, but by symmetry arguments that can't happen (or collisions would also be happening at your location too), so again the mirrors can't actually be moving, instead the "amount of spacetime" between them changes. I believe this can be mathematically concluded from the vacuum field equation R[u,v] + 1/2 R g[u,v] == 0 because the Ricci tensor measures the change in spacetime volume and this says the change is zero so spacetime volume stays constant, which I interpret to mean that as a GW passes by in the Z direction space in the X direction gets squeezed into the Y direction, and vise versa, but the total volume stays constant. Except for the "+ 1/2 R g[u,v]" part which I don't understand yet. Perhaps you can help out. Thanks, Peter A Lawrence, San Jose, CA.
Someone please check this: I've read about the holographic universe hypothesis, which is based on the fact that all information in a given 3D space can be coded on its surface. But if the whole map of a 3D phenomenon like 2 black holes colliding is contained in the gravity waves, that's 3D information contained in a single dimension, right? The linear dimension between the event and the detector? Imagine - there could be holographic 3D videos on a single 2d film that way.
Common wealth award, colin powel, peak oil lecture... way too much to kill my curiosity within first three minutes of announcements. And to boot, the quotation was "can you hear me?" Thanks!
@@yingyang1008 Now you're just being a knucklehead sweetie. Your name is cute, in a faux-traileur sort of way, but trolling a video where really smart scientists hang out? You won't come across in such an embarrassing way if you treat your brain to a nice education. Love and hugs.♥ Now put your COVID mask on and get to school!
Please stop with "GR -AEEE- VITY jokes" This is a guy who could talk for 3 hours and you'll NEVER get bored - NOT FOR A SECOND! :) Have a nice day everyone!
procerator 11 years passing provokes all the more curiosity over what has happened. There is a later generation of LIGO, and at least one youtube video with something about it. I just checked the LIGO site www.advancedligo.mit.edu/ As of today, January 15, 2016, no gravitational waves have ever been reported. I don't see any reason why there might not be gravitational waves even under Newtonian gravity, so even for skeptics of General Relativity, which I am not, there is no particular reason to doubt their existence. That doesn't mean there are any large enough or close enough to detect.
Kenneth Florek with all due respect " I don't see any reason why there might not be gravitational waves even under Newtonian gravity" you must be a paid spokesman for Einstein. Are you aware that newton never undo-stood gravity, he never had an explanation for it! A wave is not what something is, a wave is what something does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you do not know what it is that you are looking for how can you find? Absolutely mind boggling how people can fall for these lies!
+pooltrader "Gravitational waves cannot exist in the Newtonian theory of gravitation, in which physical interactions propagate at infinite speed." - Wikipedia Newton contribution to understanding gravity is that it is universal. The same 'force' that acts on an apple on Earth is the same 'force' acting on all other objects in the universe. Newton did not know what caused or made this force.
Agimaso Schandir If so, then LIGO sees something other than gravitational waves. According to the description, LIGO uses two lengths (using lasers) at right angles to see if length has changed as a gravitational wave goes by. Newton's equation has the force of gravity differing with distance. Therefore two points at different distances from a gravity source experience a different force, and there is a net force between these points. Therefore all objects are further stretched or further shrunk when a source of gravity moves. Therefore LIGO sees this. I am not saying Newton ever thought this. It is a bit much to claim that the Newtonian force due to gravity, or any other force Newton mentioned, is required to propagate at infinite speed, just because Newton didn't account for any speed. Newton did not account for a lot of things, and this was one of his strengths. Every physics demonstration to this day tries to neglect as many things as possible that will still give accurate results; and they are following Newton in this, whether they know it or not. It is very fortunate that this works, when it does, because we would not have any derivations at all were it not for this. However, I don't doubt that Newton thought privately, but did not say, that gravitation was not in need of propagation, but was present due to the hand of God. It would be as if to say the existence of matter needed to be accounted for, which he did not do either. While it is true Newton did not know what gravity was, neither did Newton know what matter was. But neither do we today. And there is no prospect whatsoever that we ever will. Newton claimed to know some things about gravity. We have a working knowledge of things, which expands, and that is all we can ever have.
1. Einstein and Newton are not 'any famous persons' but the two biggest figures in physics who are constantly referred to, talked and written about and whose ideas are still being discussed. And this is a physics lecture. 2. When giving a talk the minimum requirement is that I know what I write on my slides and where I take it from. Especially if I am a world-famous physicist myself. 3. Knowing the main events of the life of the main contributors to my field of research is not historians' job. It's something which should come routinely by the sheer necessity that as a researcher I meet these pieces of data a million times during my career. 4. Being a physicist (scientist) doesn't mean I can be an ignorant moron about things outside the scope of my research. On the contrary, it means that I am more responsible for what I write or say.
6:56. Surly when you look out of the window of your fast car the clocks will appear to be speeding up, since when you stop they will be ahead of you in time?
Page 22:41 The warp space sheet can only produce an inward (animated g) force towards solar, if (1) the sheet is solid (2) there is another gravity force located below the south pole of solar. This warp model is using a second gravity source to develop first gravity force by solar. It is obvious that Einstein is, and only is, a clerk. Those who buy in his theory are those who - learn but think, also those who think but thinking outside a box of main stream academia.
Its a law .. but 'c' isn't in the reference frame with an expanding universe. In 1905 'c' was fast but its 2018 and the universe field density is 2.7c. Read: Rodney Kawecki.
Electrons, like atoms, and black holes, and the universe as a whole, are horn toroidal fluid vortices (hence "point-particles") in/of the single, scale-uniform 'super-fluid' medium (I call it the SUM, a.k.a. "space-time") whose self-relative motion (a.k.a. "acceleration"; "momentum"; "push") as vortices and waves, comprises the evolving (hence "time") structure of the universe and all of its content "physical objects". Therefore we can say that the "material universe" is 'pure motion' (primarily point-radial in trajectory). The Einsteinian "time dilation/ length contraction" principle applies to the SUM itself, meaning that its self-relative motion ("acceleration" as 'motion relative to itself over time') is the mechanism by which the otherwise absolutely homogenous SUM 'self-differentiates' into the structural diversity of the observable universe, including our own bodies. Also, therefore, not only do massive objects "curve spacetime", massive objects ARE "curved spacetime". The inflow of the SUM equals the point-radial outflow "expansion" of the SUM compression wavefront that is the surface of the mass-object (e.g. the Earth). Ergo the "gravitational (and smaller scale) field(s)". Since SUM fluid vortices, and every complex manifold thereof, including ourselves, constitute 'I/O devices' (inflow/outflow; input/output; positive/negative; "yin/yang"; etc.), we can say that the physical universe is comprised by an otherwise, absolutely continuous SUM "simulating" (by means of its self-differentiating, self-relative motion) a "discrete particle" - based "material universe" as "a universal self-organizing network of distributed I/O devices" which are manifested in terms of their inter-communication by means of the specific sequence of SUM 'vibrational acceleration waves' traveling at the "constant, finite, but asymptotic limit for all mass-objects" speed of light which they emit and absorb. We "human beings" are momentum routers ("pushers" of "things") in that network. In order for there to be a "push", there must be a "something else" to "push against". "Yin/Yang". Consider that every "sensation" - i.e. that you are "conscious" of - is comprised of a "push" (or vibrational series of "pushes") at some scale, at some amplitude, in some 'direction', as a "transfer of momentum"; a displacement of a mass object from its otherwise geodesic path. So the "material universe" is apparently a self-configuring momentum-routing circuit /network. "Consciousness" is 'a self-configuring momentum waveform' in/of the SUM. P.S. "Dark matter" is the SUM itself concentrated around its "material" vortices, and "dark energy" is its larger-scale flow. ua-cam.com/video/MmG2ah5Df4g/v-deo.html 0:22/11:57 They are being carried along by the outwardly expanding flow of the SUM (scale-uniform medium) itself from its horn toroidal fluid vortexual architecture "output". They are not, themselves "accelerating" (undergoing "proper acceleration") by means of an 'on-board' power supply. Thus, in this case, they are not moving "through space over time", they are moving "with space over time". Light waves are the universal 'CPU clock ticks' of 'time'. They make up the 'Cartesian coordinate system' of the 'space-time epic' in which we are taking place. ... Call the Y axis "time", and the X axis "space". Let your eye be at 0 looking in the positive Y direction, and let any other detector be placed anywhere else along the X axis. The photon (or physical increment of "time") is propagating toward your eye, or other detector, as a spread-out 'shock wave' front, and collapsing point radially toward its detector, only being "detected" when the momentum (acceleration) pulse it is transferring through the SUM (scale-uniform medium, or "space-time") literally from its horn toroidal 'point' of origin is transferred to its corresponding destination point of detection. The universe might be described as a 'self-calculating quantum computer'. Let's discuss: ua-cam.com/users/onemediuminmotiondiscussion
Parallel coexistence in individual learning by doing experience of good teaching co-observation, and all pervasive circular logic of e-Pi-i Superposition-point Entanglement resonance bonding in superposition, "so it goes", in continuity.
Excellent experiments with advanced technologies, self-test by comparison with previous reports, and wether or not we know anything new about abstract angles of approach to fundamental concepts, there's more precisely refined scientific methodology to apply to the general industrial culture. The most significant observation in these related presentations, is the picture perception of Physics and Geometry in the "close-up " of the movie about black hole singularity, and how it has no "sides", all of the shadow is visible, because it's WYSIWYG all-ways all-at-once forever Hologram, and it is the best representation of a oneness-connection, symbolic of omnidirectional-dimensional Origin of Superspin Modulation. _____ The slow-fast-slow ticking (resonances) clock follows a hot-cold-reheat arc of "convection" or the freeze emission of time duration timing modulation, apparent floation, pure relative motion mathematical reciprocal positioning formulae of non-synchronized inflation +/-, and therefore excluded because expanded and slowed reference frequencies etc of the "wave-particle" relative-proportionate uncertainty kind, in the universal wave-package probability, clock "gearing", relationship proportioning. First I've heard this presentation of Einstein's awareness of straight-line time.., which is equivalent to flat-space ground state boundary of here-now-forever omnidirectional-dimensional Origin, of Superspin self-defining cause-effect Modulation, the indeterminate limit of potential possibilities difference distribution in this unitary absolute zero-infinity reference frame.., this Thought Experiment was well demonstrated. The gravity curvature shaping Spacetime due to probability resonance imaging function, here-now cause-effect of time duration timing modulation, is logarithmic synchronization quantum orbital in resonance-chemistry, projected onto 2D from 0-1D omnidirectional-dimensional Origin of Superspin Modulation as an imagined (i-reflection/differentiation of pure relative motion ratio rate) cone, in which the Quantum Number sequence cause-effect of resonances 0-1-2-3-4-...nD according to the degree of accuracy logarithmic numberness bases in e-Pi-i functional continuous creation connection Principle allow.., for-of QM-TIMESPACE In-form-ation . It's perceived reality to limit possibilities to practical physical probabilities and use Number identities to manipulate Actuality using experience and intuition, but if "all is relative" then "everything is probabilisticly connected" by-default, ..e-Pi-i interference positioning resonance. A Spacetime oriented curriculum has to be re-drawn in temporal terminology where "parallel lines in flat-space, meet at infinity", is equivalent to Entangled here-now-forever Universal Coexistence of QM-TIMESPACE. It depends on the construction of a personal Memory Palace, wether by careful intent or coincidental default, naturally. So the cones of time duration timing re-modulation interference positioning integration.., all are static drawings of superimposed metastable resonances, spaced in twice exploded multi-phase-locked states of a graphical presentation of the pure relative motion e-Pi-i function.., which is why Bergson's Intuitive observation and Einsteinian Theoretical Curvature-s are mathematically corresponding in probability positioning alignment with Euler's Intuitions. (Navigational symbology of logarithmic condensate probability mapping, ..of course) "Probing" the quantized gravity turbulence in/of the Universe is equivalent to reading the results of everything all-at-once forever, Singularity Conception, the "annealing" Calculations of Superspin Superposition-point Singularity. Ie The big Quantum Computer in the sky and focused at the LIGO detector movie of the .dt instant-interval Eternity-now. "Wormhole" => fractal scaling of invariant coherent cohesion objectives/Bose-Einstein Condensate, in pulsed resonances of e-Pi-i interference positioning.., make traveling at constant velocities "straight" through flat-space = .dt general sum-of-all-histories Time, so accelerating+/- is curving the metastable resonances curvature.., Wormhole Quantum Jumping, by "dragging the Inertial frame".., corresponding to Inflation-Modulation+/-..
Thank you Caltech family, Thank you Kipp, Karren, Steven, that was beautiful, If my opinion has merit on the matter of creating a time tech. machine, I think I can prove that that is not possible to compose from Rs ASP Rp any such machine, although I have not spent the time to conceder the other 2 spectrums of our Y-coordinate Universe, Ts, Qs, I suspect the answer is the same as it is for Rs, but I don't know for sure, I very much look forward too being you and solving these problems, peace and love, Doug.
What a cool thought... I've heard the Higgs field described in similar terms. So if a rotating massive body drags spacetime around with it, does that bleed off angular momentum? Will the Earth stop turning in a few billion years?
@@drbonesshow1 He may have been reborn in which case he's not dead. We don't know. Also In the movie Arrival SPOILERS the linguist sees all times together so she sees her daughter Hannah is alive & playing in the future she's not dead because OVERALL Hannah's life is a huge process = a huge number of experiences a few of which were the death process so I think maybe when you say Einstein's dead maybe you're not seeing time correctly because time is just like the 3 dimensions of space. Birth & death are like east & west.
@@alwaysdisputin9930 Uncle Joe Biden is brain dead with no hope for resurrection that we do know. He probably can't even get an erection. And if he did we'd be the only ones to know it.
@@drbonesshow1 Republican Presidents always have recessions. ALWAYS. Trump, Bush, Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Eisenhower, Hoover. ALL OF THEM HAD RECESSIONS. Republicans are the recession party. It's very strange that Americans keep on voting for a party that is so obviously bad for USA. By contrast Democrats hardly ever have recessions
Newtown predicted gravitational deflection of sunlight as well. Kip doesn't mention that because he knows as well as I do that the audience is already aware of it. And Kip also fails to mention the measurements of bent sunlight in Sobral in 1919, which were closer to Newton's predictions than Einstein's. But of course Kip knows that his audience is already aware of that. Doesn't he? And Kip also neglects to bring to the attention of the audience that the 1919 Principe results were found to be faulted in about 1930, and then only tenuously rehabilitated in the wake of World War 2. But then, he is fully apprised of the fact that every member of the audience is totally aware of that. . . .
and...everyone deals with BH as if they are a cul de sac. What if they are not? What if they are the universe'' way of separating mass from gravity? Up with Gravitons. :-)
I know he can't explain a fraction of the real concepts here but the thing that bothers me is how these lasers are meant to measure dilations of space, when what they measure is units of space. It seems like measuring how much your steel rule expands when heated by measuring it against another similarly hot steel rule.
+chrisofnottingham They use laser interferometry to avoid that. It's like sending a pulse of laser before the warp and measuring the same pulse after it to see how they compare
My hypothesis that Dark Matter is not a WIMP, but maybe is a deformation of space-time by which the curvature of space-time ALONE is the cause of the gravitational effect. Gravity is the consequence of the curvature of space-time. It may be possible that the structure of space-time itself could be warped without the presence of mass. Space-time has been shown to react like a fabric by warping, twisting, and propagating independent of mass. These properties have been proven with observations of gravitational lensing, frame dragging, and now gravitational waves. Fabrics can be stretched, pressured, and/or heated to the point of deformation. Such extreme conditions were all present during inflation, so it is plausible that space-time’s elastic nature could have hit its yield point and permanently deformed. Therefore, if gravity is the consequence of the warping of space-time, and fabrics can be permanently deformed, then a deformation could create a gravitational effect independent of mass. Thus, the unidentified dark "matter" that seems to be so elusive to modern science may not be matter at all but merely warped deformities causing gravitational effects. DM could be a microscopic black hole with no mass at the center... Prediction: Spacetime's elastic property hits a yield point, so only that part of geodesic's "stretch marks" would remain after inflation stopped. These steep gravitational wells would not follow the inverse square law. I am looking for Theorists or Experimentalists to help me develop ways to test this hypothesis. Is there a way observationally to test it’s gravity does not follow the inverse square law?
podľa sna každý lieta a všetko lieta je môže že podľa myšlienky ktorá som mal vo vesmíre v čase vedeli na všetko od povedali je to logické pre to že bez komunikácie nebolo by to možné
+ Hey Kip. So Einstein says "warped spacetime did it". Fabulous. So what's all this about gravitational waves then? This is directed at twelve year olds. When does the adult segment begin?
letel som z planéty na planétu z jednou nohou na zemi z druhým krokom som bol na druhú planétu z jedným krokom na druhú planétu ne trvalo to ani sekundu každá planéta trochu od povedala aký život je na planétach jedna od povedala napi sa vody aby si mohol lietať ďalej kde kde som do prešiel do druhého vesmíru podobné ako cez olej pre to že som už nemohol sa vrátiť ale ako by vedeli už vopred tak som natrafil na oceán a nad oceánom plno malé svietelka ktoré lietali nad oceánom ja som bol stále v myšlienke ktorá mňa na padla že ako tu žijú hneď som dostal od poved mi pijeme z oceánu a už to svetielko vedelo od povedalo napi sa aby si mohol byť nad oceánom tak som sa napil s videl som koľko sa na pijem toľko sa na plní späť necítil som tak ako som chcel možné že by zostal vo nad oceánom tak som sa prebudil zo sna ale zo sna sa dá zistiť keby som mal lepšiu predstavu mohol by som existovať vo vesmíre nad oceánom živí kde som si všimol že myslím si že nemal som telo len oči 👀 s mozog kde seba som nevidel možno preto že som musel byt veľmi máli
CALTECH - If GAS BONDING is a fact, Gravity/Black Holes are not . All downward falling motion, including Newtons apple, begins when rising gas molecules becomes trapped gas molecules, known as GAS BONDING, which take on a state of solid mass, blocking out it's electrons motion, it's fire power, thus becomes ENERGY LOCK lifeless gas molecules, and falls downward in real time, following it's electrons unlimited potential velocity, at the speed of light, connecting with the earth ENERGY CONSERVATION SYSTEM, establishing a downward falling path for trapped lifeless gas molecules/solid objects only. Equating the above fact with the physical universe, same as Einstein E = MC2 equates with the physical universe. E = ENERGY =MM = MOLECULES MOTION = Molecules in motion within star flames earth gases birds and balloons plains and rockets, even us humans rise from molecules in motion, creating an ENERGY FLOW, the ruling force of the universe. M = MASS = GB = GAS BONDING = Gas Binding take on a state of solid mass, blocking out it's electrons motion, it's fire power, thus becomes ENERGY LOCK lifeless gas molecules, and falls downward in real time. C2 = LIGHT SPEED = E = ELECTRONS = Electrons Unlimited Potential Velocity, at the speed of light, connects with the earth ENERGY CONSERVATION SYSTEM, establishing a downward falling path for trapped lifeless gas molecules/solid objects only. Gravity is a mythical concept mentally applied for guaranteed results to it's point of origin, the BRAIN ! This they should've known !
Mal som niekoľko pekných snov o vesmíre ste Matematici tak musíte vidieť v jednom sne som videl ako sa vesmír zmenil farbu za sekundu príklad môže sa stať že zima nemusí byť
This remember me about scientific debate "how many angels can stand on the needlepoint". Same academic distance, same omniknowledge, same scientific authority, same certainty, even same false modesty. Ok, today those academic "scientists" claim that noble scientists of that time were same of those who today disagree with this obligatory knowledge. No it wasn't, these are same type of people - academics, and same type of dogmas - academic "scientific facts". And real investigators, people who explore make scientific experiments are marked as witches, magicians, heretics. Bonfires are still burning, churches are still behind all, every knowledge must be approved by churches and everything is in faith and hierarchy. Academia is exactly opposite of Science.
The lecturer needed some "ginseng" he was distressed. He kept slurring on his word "Aiagah...aaigah...aaigah". He needed to take more sleep and if he drank too much coffee, he might have to stop.
New finding in 2010 you don't know before, in general theory of relativity Albert Einstein ignored refraction of light. Einstein's proving method (EPM) via eclipse is unscientific and deeply wrong. It is very surprising. Please read on the reliable source the book The Universe and DR.Einstein, by Lincoln Barnett, London, 1949, Preface by Albert Einstein himself, page 78 - 79.
Vo sne som videl ako sa celi vesmír zmenil farbu za sekundu a planéty ne existovali to druhý sen ľudia existovali ne v také to podobe ako na zemi komunikácia zostala
In this parabolic trajectory Professor did not mention that kinetic energy of apple, drag of G force, and air friction created geometry of apple's parabola. Time is always involved. Time on the beginning of parabola (slower time), and time on highest point (fastest time) on parabola has nothing to do with shape of parabola. In this case slower time , and faster time do not exist on this parabola, simply because in nature does not exist slower, and faster time... Parabola is significantly bent. So if time would play roll in this parabolic curvature, time difference between "slower time", and "faster time" must have significant "length", and this is not the case here. SPACE CANOT BE WORPED. TIME CANOT BE WORPED. SPACE IS NOT FLAT. Photons are material particles wich could be influenced or warped by Sun's gravitational force, this does not mean that space is warped, and so on. Unfortunately we still have professors copyist presenting wrong Einsteins stories wich are not in harmony with nature.
+slavko polovina Time in nature is still undefined, but can be subjectively experienced as faster or slower. In an Einsteinian world, time can run slower the faster an object moves. [Time is always involved.] and [In this case slower time , and faster time do not exist on this parabola, simply because in nature does not exist slower, and faster time...] seem to be contradictory.
Time does not run so there is no faster or slower Time. There is no Einsteinen world! We know in what kinda world we live. Time does EXIST with its natural properties anywhere where is the Space. Time does allow existence of the Universe. Without time will be no Universe. Of course we can experience Time, or not to be consciences about time, specifically when we sleep.Time can't be measured with a clock. Why? There is no way that we can "hook" in Time with our device called clock. The clock is our creation wich can't be somehow tuned into Time. Time as a natural phenomena is not what is the clock. Amusingly most of the Professors in the field of Physics do mix Time and clock including Einstein. But Time does allowed us to have working clock in Time, so we can orient ourself in Space and Time. Time can "take" anything anywhere in the Space or anything synchronized in infinite number of locations in space .This makes Time absolute not relative. Simply Time is "medium" which possesses double infinite capacity. It is "spread" through space infinitely, and can "take" infinitely fast number of infinite events.Time does not allow limitations. This is beauty of Time... Einstein did not understood this. According to Einstein time is relative wich means that time in different points in space is different and also according to EinsteinTime stops when object riches speed of light. Wrong again... Also Time is not revolving around us, or Time does not exist because of us. We have intelligence good enough to conclude, or we feel thanks to our conscience that Time does exist. During our existence we are simply "submersed" in Space and Time. Also Time and Space are two different entities. For Einstein Time and Space is the same and he did named Tame and Space Timespace. This is wrong... He did created absolute mess with his statements in so called modern Physics and mess was a politically planed, so Masses would not get proper education. Plan is to kip real science behind closed doors. We can't defy Time in relation to our self because time existed bifore us, during our life and after us.
Einstein's equations had been proven several times with impeccable precision. How do you explain this? Is there a bigger picture where Einstein's theory fits perfectly and we're still fundamentally clueless about the universe?
The theory states that if an observer measures a photon as he's moving away from it, time has to make up for the distance the photon travels. This is WRONG! The photon is still traveling at C. It just creates the illusion to the observer that the photon is traveling at a different speed relative to his position. If I drive my car at 150mph, passing another car driving at 30mph, I will measure that car moving at 120mph away from my position (backwards) But that car is actually still just moving at 30mph. The speed you measure any object traveling is relative to your own position but it does not change the actual speed of the object itself. Therefore, time remains unchanged to both observer and object. Here are the facts: 1) Time is not a force of nature which consists of matter or energy. Therefore nothing can interact with it. Not even gravity or velocity. 2) Time is a concept created by mankind to calculate speeds & locations in space and schedule events. 3) Time can't be distorted, slowed down or speed up. You can't age slower or faster or travel to the future or the past.
+Thrillseeker303 You have made a rather large blunder. Yes, you will measure the car moving 120mph away from you while in your car, but if you were not moving relative to the road, you would measure the car to be moving at 30mph. Both of these speeds are simply relative to your velocity in space (neither one is the only correct speed). If that didn't make sense, think about being at the center of our galaxy. Now you would measure the car travelling at 140 miles per second (roughly). This is also correct, as long as you clarify from what reference frame you are measuring. There is no such thing as objective position, speed, or acceleration. Those properties can only be described with respect to another position, speed and acceleration (subjective). Your facts are anything but that. They simply prove how little you've read on the subject of space and time. Not worth a proper response until you stop making shitty youtube comments and educate yourself. We are incredibly lucky to have access to more information than any other generation of humans before. Lets put it to good use!
+Leo Mckee-Reid You've just proved that speed is relative. And that there is no absolute speed for any object in the universe. Then how could speed affect time if it's relative to whoever measures it? I know this must sound crazy to you but I know for a FACT Einstein has made a huge error in his general theory of relativity. Time cannot slow down or speed up and I will not rest until I can prove it. You cannot treat time as a fourth dimension which forces can interact with. Forces can only interact with matter or energy. And since time is neither, NOTHING can interact with it. Period. To say your body would age less quickly because gravity interacts with time is idiotic. Your body is made up of matter. Space and time are non existent. They are simply tools to measure the position of objects which consist of matter. Einstein said that the product of acceleration is indistinguishable from gravity which is true even though he also knew gravity and acceleration are not the same. But acceleration and velocity are not the same either. Acceleration is gradually speeding up from a stationary position to any constant speed. Velocity is a constant speed. Acceleration creates a G-force. Constant speed does not. Imagine you leave Earth in a spaceship. As you lift off, the ship speeds up (acceleration). The gravity of the Earth combined with the acceleration will cause you to feel backwards pressure (G force). The G force would gradually disappear as you leave the gravitational pull of the Earth and reach a constant speed. In vacuum space, as you travel at a constant speed without being affected by any gravitational field, you would not feel any pressure anymore. You could float freely within the fast moving spaceship without being aware of the speed at which you're going. Even though your spaceship may be traveling at the speed of light. There would be no G-force whatsoever! This would also apply to light as it travels at a constant speed and never accelerates. If two spaceships traveling at lightspeed pass each other in opposite directions. Both observers would measure Each other's speed as twice the speed of light. But since nothing can travel faster than light, the observer would think that time has to make up for the distance. So if you make time go half as fast, your effectively force your calculation to be correct. But the observer's point of view on the velocity of the other ship has no effect on the real speed or time of the ship. Both ships are still traveling at C and time is unaffected for both ships. And I want to add. You may think I'm stupid for not believing a theory which is generally accepted. But from my point of view, I think you're just as stupid to fall for this mathematical illusion. You just don't seem to see the gaping flaws in the theory.
+Thrillseeker303 Allow me to address what I think is your key obstacle in understanding special relativity. Nearing the end of you long response, you said this: "But the observer's point of view on the velocity of the other ship has no effect on the real speed or time of the ship." Now, what do you mean by REAL speed of REAL time? The entire point of this heavily proven theory (through an incredible amount of evidence) is that REAL speed is not a property of the universe; it is only a relative quality, same for time. If you "know for a FACT Einstein has made a huge error", then you must have done the math or conducted some impressive experiment that disproves arguably the greatest theory (and most studied by mathematicians and physicists all over the world) in the last 110 years. If you haven't worked out the math, and know exactly what's wrong, or haven't conducted an experiment, then ask yourself this: Why do I, someone with relatively limited knowledge in physics, think with 100% certainty (and nothing but a poorly worded thought experiment) that I've disproved a theory that the greatest minds of the last century have been unable to see? I'm not saying you couldn't be right, but just look at what evidence you have vs the enormous claim you are making that goes against over 40 years of incredibly accurate experimental verification. Just read about experiments that prove the existence of time dilation (there are quite a lot), and only respond if it's a link to your experiment, your "corrected" equations, or anything that's not sloppy, C- undergraduate level understanding. I apologize for being rude, I just think you need to stop acting so sure of yourself. Have some doubt, and you won't seem so arrogant. Despite my edgey response, enjoy your time reading about this stuff. We're both very lucky to live in such a fruitful time of information and understanding.
+Leo Mckee-Reid I'm open to the fact that I may be wrong as any scientist should always keep in mind. However, I can't help but feel very sure about this. Regarding the atomic clock experiment in the airplane. How could anyone even consider a difference of 40 billionths of a second "proof" that time itself can slow down??? What about the other variables to take into account when you do an experiment like this? The environment on the plane may bring certain forces which could interact with the atomic frequency of the equipment. Electromagnetism, static electricity, heat, cold, air pressure, G-Force, vibrations,... all of which may affect the outcome of the atomic clock. We don't even know the behavior of particles down at the quantum level when these forces are applied. So how can we assume that it's time itself which is slowing down instead of the equipment being impaired by a force we have overlooked. This experiment should not be considered undeniable proof that time itself can slow down.
Part III: u' = u - v is called the Galilean velocity transformation. It is consistent with Newton's Laws and absolute time. It is the ONLY transformation equation that is consistent with absolute time in a flat spacetime (I won't get into technical details but it can be proven mathematically for a universe like ours there are only two possibilities: Galileo and Lorentz, which I'll get into later). However, it turns out that the laws of electromagnetism DO NOT follow this rule. If two observers moving with respect to each other watch a fast moving electron, u' IS NOT equal to u - v. I will go into why in part IV.
Kip Thorne wrongly teaches that in 1905 Einstein deduced the relativistic effects (time dilation, length contraction etc) from the first postulate (the principle of relativity) alone. Actually, the second postulate was crucial but false. The speed of light (relative to the observer) does vary with the speed of the light source, as predicted by Newton's emission theory of light and contrary to what Einstein postulated in 1905. This is evident from the following quotes: www.philoscience.unibe.ch/documents/kursarchiv/SS07/Norton.pdf "These efforts were long misled by an exaggeration of the importance of one experiment, the Michelson-Morley experiment, even though Einstein later had trouble recalling if he even knew of the experiment prior to his 1905 paper. This one experiment, in isolation, has little force. Its null result happened to be fully compatible with Newton's own emission theory of light. Located in the context of late 19th century electrodynamics when ether-based, wave theories of light predominated, however, it presented a serious problem that exercised the greatest theoretician of the day." philsci-archive.pitt.edu/1743/2/Norton.pdf "In addition to his work as editor of the Einstein papers in finding source material, Stachel assembled the many small clues that reveal Einstein's serious consideration of an emission theory of light; and he gave us the crucial insight that Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity. Even today, this point needs emphasis. The Michelson-Morley experiment is fully compatible with an emission theory of light that CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." books.google.com/books?id=JokgnS1JtmMC "Relativity and Its Roots" by Banesh Hoffmann, p.92: "There are various remarks to be made about this second principle. For instance, if it is so obvious, how could it turn out to be part of a revolution - especially when the first principle is also a natural one? Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding train can do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will conform to Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation to account for the null result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether. If it was so obvious, though, why did he need to state it as a principle? Because, having taken from the idea of light waves in the ether the one aspect that he needed, he declared early in his paper, to quote his own words, that "the introduction of a 'luminiferous ether' will prove to be superfluous." www.amazon.com/QED-Strange-Theory-Light-Matter/dp/0691024170 Richard Feynman, "QED: The strange theory of light and matter", p. 15: "I want to emphasize that light comes in this form - particles. It is very important to know that light behaves like particles, especially for those of you who have gone to school, where you probably learned something about light behaving like waves. I'm telling you the way it does behave - like particles. You might say that it's just the photomultiplier that detects light as particles, but no, every instrument that has been designed to be sensitive enough to detect weak light has always ended up discovering the same thing: light is made of particles."
another scientist! throwing apple - in any moment millions parents dream of to give to their kids - to make a point. How can a scientist so thoughtless do ANY GOOD THINGS for humanity? These are our pioneers in CalTech, the same is true in MIT.
Jason Williford Is that really so hard to understand? I am saying using an apple or two or three apples to demonstrate gravity is absolutely stupid and disrespecting food. I saw similar demo in MIT. Can't believe that elite universities of the world fail humanity and so focused on science that they forget simple thins. Millions of people dream of eating a single apple. I hope you get it now.
Are you trolling? WTH? I think I get it. It's just an apple, and there will always be starving people. We can't be considerate of every minor point of view throughout the world. Nothing would ever get done. Stop whining. That's Kip Thorne; he can do whatever he wants.
I think best i can hope and wish for heartless big brains is to get to a point in their life so that they can see and feel the difference between an Apple and a plastic ball. Good luck!
He complains about NASA budget- should get his priorities right. With all the money we've wasted on this hypothetical pencil pushing we could have won the the War On Terror already.
James Smith 4 trillion USD vs 200 billion USD over the years... You need to learn your numbers buddy. And that 200 billion gives you all things that NASA does: air travel, earth observation, ISS, planetary exploration, etc.
I am in india and filled with such gratitude that i can hear this phenomenal talk. How great that we can acknowledge our understanding to great scientists gone before and have this great man Dr Kip to make lay people like me understand. Thankyou thankyou Sir. God bless
Me same
17 minutes in and this is already the greatest explanation of this subject i've ever witnessed. Kip Thorne is an utter legend. Up there with Feynman.
+joppadoni He IS Richard Feynman
+stabiljka for me kip is like leonard Susskind, he isnt feynman. Although they are all a joy to watch.
joppadoni No, he really is Richard Feynman..
+joppadoni ....Professor of Theoretical Physics at California Institute of Technology
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Kip Thorne,Nobel Laureate..one of the youngest people ever to be made a full Professor at Caltech at just 30..a brilliant mind and a kind Heart ..bless him tc
that is the most curious vocal tick he has. I've never heard anything similar. It's unique.
if he was punched in the solar plexus a few time it would fix he up
Aieyehhh aieyooo aieyupp
Maybe his voice gets warped in space time, as a sign that he's receiving a signal from the galaxy of 5 th dimension.
People sometimes develop tics like that when they are working around a serious stuttering problem. I don't know if that's his case. (Rowan Atkinson has this weird way of pronouncing the letter "B" for that reason, and he uses it to great comic effect!) Could be anything really. (He might have a duck in his pocket :P )
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That was a pleasure to watch! Thanks professor Thorne.
Apart from showing a baffling clear introduction into General Relativity, I love the fact that when he jumps off the platform and throws that ball he indeed watches it like a true experimentalist just to see whether it really, from his perspective as free falling observer, follows a straight line.
I really find these "physics lectures" very interesting. Thank you.
Watching it in 2018,how correct he was😁
I bought a book on eBay signed by him. I guess the seller didn't realize that. Lucky me.
Stephen hawking mentioned about the wager in his book 'Theory of everything'.
He says that thought he bet against the existence of naked singularity but very much hoped that he was proved wrong.
RIP hawking.
Boy this was a really great presentation. I watched Interstellar yesterday and searched for Kip Thorne on UA-cam and this was even better than the movie (for getting intuition, the movie if of course more entertaining and emotionally charged :-) Excellent talk!
Kip Thorne reminds of Richard Feynman with his amazing talks.
Not. He keeps goin" ahhheehhh"
Kip, I hope you're reading this, or someone that works with you is. There's a misconception about how LIGO works that's being perpetuated here, which is that the mirrors move. The mirrors don't move, the "amount of space" between them changes. There is an easy thought experiment to prove this: imagine one of the mirrors in LIGO being reflective on both side and contruct another LIGO on its other side, if the mirror moved it would be recorded as moving one way by the first LIGO and the opposite way by the second LIGO, this is not possible, so the mirrors don't actually move, rather the amount of "spacetime" between then changes. Another way to see it is if the mirrors move then how far does the mirror at the far end of the second LIGO move, if the mirrors move then the far one moves twice as far as the middle mirror, and if you keep on building more and more LIGOs in a long line pretty soon those movements would add up, but that can't be either, imagine forming a gigantic circle of back-to-back LIGOs around a GW source, if the mirrors actually moved then from your perspective at one point on this circle, the mirrors diametrically opposite you should be colliding, but by symmetry arguments that can't happen (or collisions would also be happening at your location too), so again the mirrors can't actually be moving, instead the "amount of spacetime" between them changes.
I believe this can be mathematically concluded from the vacuum field equation
R[u,v] + 1/2 R g[u,v] == 0
because the Ricci tensor measures the change in spacetime volume and this says the change is zero so spacetime volume stays constant, which I interpret to mean that as a GW passes by in the Z direction space in the X direction gets squeezed into the Y direction, and vise versa, but the total volume stays constant. Except for the "+ 1/2 R g[u,v]" part which I don't understand yet. Perhaps you can help out.
Thanks,
Peter A Lawrence, San Jose, CA.
Interesting Sire ! I am understanding it but in intervals of days!
Thank you, Dr. Thorne. I have always been a big fan of your work. Enlightening as always.
His lecturing style is very Caltech Californian down to earth and light hearted.
I, too, love Mr. Thorne !!:-) :-)
Someone please check this: I've read about the holographic universe hypothesis, which is based on the fact that all information in a given 3D space can be coded on its surface. But if the whole map of a 3D phenomenon like 2 black holes colliding is contained in the gravity waves, that's 3D information contained in a single dimension, right? The linear dimension between the event and the detector? Imagine - there could be holographic 3D videos on a single 2d film that way.
It's like the next step from usual pop-science stuff. And it's very nice to hear condesed version of this beutiful theory. Thank you, Mr Thorne.
TY @caltech This was very interesting. Sorry about all the dumb comments below.
Absolutely well done and definitely keep it up!!! 👍👍👍👍👍
That's what you're mamy keeps saying
Common wealth award, colin powel, peak oil lecture... way too much to kill my curiosity within first three minutes of announcements.
And to boot, the quotation was "can you hear me?"
Thanks!
He collected his Nobel Prize for LIGO in 2017
Another obvious fraud
@@yingyang1008 Now you're just being a knucklehead sweetie. Your name is cute, in a faux-traileur sort of way, but trolling a video where really smart scientists hang out? You won't come across in such an embarrassing way if you treat your brain to a nice education. Love and hugs.♥ Now put your COVID mask on and get to school!
@@beenaplumber8379 Dang, I was just going to say that, but space-time warpage interfered.
Please stop with "GR -AEEE- VITY jokes" This is a guy who could talk for 3 hours and you'll NEVER get bored - NOT FOR A SECOND! :)
Have a nice day everyone!
Just some days ago Einstein Online Papers was load it. He mention it but in 2005! It must have been a quite hard work,
yes
gravitational waves have been reported from LIGO.
+Kenneth Florek the video is from 2005 though
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11 years passing provokes all the more curiosity over what has happened. There is a later generation of LIGO, and at least one youtube video with something about it. I just checked the LIGO site www.advancedligo.mit.edu/
As of today, January 15, 2016, no gravitational waves have ever been reported.
I don't see any reason why there might not be gravitational waves even under Newtonian gravity, so even for skeptics of General Relativity, which I am not, there is no particular reason to doubt their existence. That doesn't mean there are any large enough or close enough to detect.
Kenneth Florek with all due respect " I don't see any reason why there might not be gravitational waves even under Newtonian gravity" you must be a paid spokesman for Einstein. Are you aware that newton never undo-stood gravity, he never had an explanation for it! A wave is not what something is, a wave is what something does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you do not know what it is that you are looking for how can you find? Absolutely mind boggling how people can fall for these lies!
+pooltrader
"Gravitational waves cannot exist in the Newtonian theory of gravitation, in which physical interactions propagate at infinite speed." - Wikipedia
Newton contribution to understanding gravity is that it is universal. The same 'force' that acts on an apple on Earth is the same 'force' acting on all other objects in the universe. Newton did not know what caused or made this force.
Agimaso Schandir If so, then LIGO sees something other than gravitational waves. According to the description, LIGO uses two lengths (using lasers) at right angles to see if length has changed as a gravitational wave goes by. Newton's equation has the force of gravity differing with distance. Therefore two points at different distances from a gravity source experience a different force, and there is a net force between these points. Therefore all objects are further stretched or further shrunk when a source of gravity moves. Therefore LIGO sees this. I am not saying Newton ever thought this.
It is a bit much to claim that the Newtonian force due to gravity, or any other force Newton mentioned, is required to propagate at infinite speed, just because Newton didn't account for any speed. Newton did not account for a lot of things, and this was one of his strengths. Every physics demonstration to this day tries to neglect as many things as possible that will still give accurate results; and they are following Newton in this, whether they know it or not. It is very fortunate that this works, when it does, because we would not have any derivations at all were it not for this. However, I don't doubt that Newton thought privately, but did not say, that gravitation was not in need of propagation, but was present due to the hand of God. It would be as if to say the existence of matter needed to be accounted for, which he did not do either.
While it is true Newton did not know what gravity was, neither did Newton know what matter was. But neither do we today. And there is no prospect whatsoever that we ever will. Newton claimed to know some things about gravity. We have a working knowledge of things, which expands, and that is all we can ever have.
4:20 Einstein actually lived from 1879 - 1955.
Just as Newton did from 1642 and not from 1643. Being physicists they should know it by heart.
Too right Daniel!
Knowing when any famous person was born or dies is essential to none but specific historians. That is no physicist's job
You mean we got it right and the physicist was wrong?!
1. Einstein and Newton are not 'any famous persons' but the two biggest figures in physics who are constantly referred to, talked and written about and whose ideas are still being discussed. And this is a physics lecture.
2. When giving a talk the minimum requirement is that I know what I write on my slides and where I take it from. Especially if I am a world-famous physicist myself.
3. Knowing the main events of the life of the main contributors to my field of research is not historians' job. It's something which should come routinely by the sheer necessity that as a researcher I meet these pieces of data a million times during my career.
4. Being a physicist (scientist) doesn't mean I can be an ignorant moron about things outside the scope of my research. On the contrary, it means that I am more responsible for what I write or say.
15:30 if you want a quick understanding what straight lines really are.
6:56. Surly when you look out of the window of your fast car the clocks will appear to be speeding up, since when you stop they will be ahead of you in time?
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The warp space sheet can only produce an inward (animated g) force towards solar, if (1) the sheet is solid (2) there is another gravity force located below the south pole of solar. This warp model is using a second gravity source to develop first gravity force by solar.
It is obvious that Einstein is, and only is, a clerk. Those who buy in his theory are those who - learn but think, also those who think but thinking outside a box of main stream academia.
You really need to take your medication and lie down.
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Same is true for you.
Its a law .. but 'c' isn't in the reference frame with an expanding universe. In 1905 'c' was fast but its 2018 and the universe field density is 2.7c. Read: Rodney Kawecki.
Electrons, like atoms, and black holes, and the universe as a whole, are horn toroidal fluid vortices (hence "point-particles") in/of the single, scale-uniform 'super-fluid' medium (I call it the SUM, a.k.a. "space-time") whose self-relative motion (a.k.a. "acceleration"; "momentum"; "push") as vortices and waves, comprises the evolving (hence "time") structure of the universe and all of its content "physical objects". Therefore we can say that the "material universe" is 'pure motion' (primarily point-radial in trajectory). The Einsteinian "time dilation/ length contraction" principle applies to the SUM itself, meaning that its self-relative motion ("acceleration" as 'motion relative to itself over time') is the mechanism by which the otherwise absolutely homogenous SUM 'self-differentiates' into the structural diversity of the observable universe, including our own bodies.
Also, therefore, not only do massive objects "curve spacetime", massive objects ARE "curved spacetime". The inflow of the SUM equals the point-radial outflow "expansion" of the SUM compression wavefront that is the surface of the mass-object (e.g. the Earth). Ergo the "gravitational (and smaller scale) field(s)". Since SUM fluid vortices, and every complex manifold thereof, including ourselves, constitute 'I/O devices' (inflow/outflow; input/output; positive/negative; "yin/yang"; etc.), we can say that the physical universe is comprised by an otherwise, absolutely continuous SUM "simulating" (by means of its self-differentiating, self-relative motion) a "discrete particle" - based "material universe" as "a universal self-organizing network of distributed I/O devices" which are manifested in terms of their inter-communication by means of the specific sequence of SUM 'vibrational acceleration waves' traveling at the "constant, finite, but asymptotic limit for all mass-objects" speed of light which they emit and absorb. We "human beings" are momentum routers ("pushers" of "things") in that network. In order for there to be a "push", there must be a "something else" to "push against". "Yin/Yang". Consider that every "sensation" - i.e. that you are "conscious" of - is comprised of a "push" (or vibrational series of "pushes") at some scale, at some amplitude, in some 'direction', as a "transfer of momentum"; a displacement of a mass object from its otherwise geodesic path. So the "material universe" is apparently a self-configuring momentum-routing circuit /network. "Consciousness" is 'a self-configuring momentum waveform' in/of the SUM.
P.S. "Dark matter" is the SUM itself concentrated around its "material" vortices, and "dark energy" is its larger-scale flow.
ua-cam.com/video/MmG2ah5Df4g/v-deo.html 0:22/11:57 They are being carried along by the outwardly expanding flow of the SUM (scale-uniform medium) itself from its horn toroidal fluid vortexual architecture "output". They are not, themselves "accelerating" (undergoing "proper acceleration") by means of an 'on-board' power supply. Thus, in this case, they are not moving "through space over time", they are moving "with space over time". Light waves are the universal 'CPU clock ticks' of 'time'. They make up the 'Cartesian coordinate system' of the 'space-time epic' in which we are taking place. ...
Call the Y axis "time", and the X axis "space". Let your eye be at 0 looking in the positive Y direction, and let any other detector be placed anywhere else along the X axis. The photon (or physical increment of "time") is propagating toward your eye, or other detector, as a spread-out 'shock wave' front, and collapsing point radially toward its detector, only being "detected" when the momentum (acceleration) pulse it is transferring through the SUM (scale-uniform medium, or "space-time") literally from its horn toroidal 'point' of origin is transferred to its corresponding destination point of detection.
The universe might be described as a 'self-calculating quantum computer'.
Let's discuss: ua-cam.com/users/onemediuminmotiondiscussion
Parallel coexistence in individual learning by doing experience of good teaching co-observation, and all pervasive circular logic of e-Pi-i Superposition-point Entanglement resonance bonding in superposition, "so it goes", in continuity.
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Excellent experiments with advanced technologies, self-test by comparison with previous reports, and wether or not we know anything new about abstract angles of approach to fundamental concepts, there's more precisely refined scientific methodology to apply to the general industrial culture.
The most significant observation in these related presentations, is the picture perception of Physics and Geometry in the "close-up " of the movie about black hole singularity, and how it has no "sides", all of the shadow is visible, because it's WYSIWYG all-ways all-at-once forever Hologram, and it is the best representation of a oneness-connection, symbolic of omnidirectional-dimensional Origin of Superspin Modulation.
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The slow-fast-slow ticking (resonances) clock follows a hot-cold-reheat arc of "convection" or the freeze emission of time duration timing modulation, apparent floation, pure relative motion mathematical reciprocal positioning formulae of non-synchronized inflation +/-, and therefore excluded because expanded and slowed reference frequencies etc of the "wave-particle" relative-proportionate uncertainty kind, in the universal wave-package probability, clock "gearing", relationship proportioning.
First I've heard this presentation of Einstein's awareness of straight-line time.., which is equivalent to flat-space ground state boundary of here-now-forever omnidirectional-dimensional Origin, of Superspin self-defining cause-effect Modulation, the indeterminate limit of potential possibilities difference distribution in this unitary absolute zero-infinity reference frame.., this Thought Experiment was well demonstrated.
The gravity curvature shaping Spacetime due to probability resonance imaging function, here-now cause-effect of time duration timing modulation, is logarithmic synchronization quantum orbital in resonance-chemistry, projected onto 2D from 0-1D omnidirectional-dimensional Origin of Superspin Modulation as an imagined (i-reflection/differentiation of pure relative motion ratio rate) cone, in which the Quantum Number sequence cause-effect of resonances 0-1-2-3-4-...nD according to the degree of accuracy logarithmic numberness bases in e-Pi-i functional continuous creation connection Principle allow.., for-of QM-TIMESPACE In-form-ation .
It's perceived reality to limit possibilities to practical physical probabilities and use Number identities to manipulate Actuality using experience and intuition, but if "all is relative" then "everything is probabilisticly connected" by-default, ..e-Pi-i interference positioning resonance.
A Spacetime oriented curriculum has to be re-drawn in temporal terminology where "parallel lines in flat-space, meet at infinity", is equivalent to Entangled here-now-forever Universal Coexistence of QM-TIMESPACE.
It depends on the construction of a personal Memory Palace, wether by careful intent or coincidental default, naturally.
So the cones of time duration timing re-modulation interference positioning integration.., all are static drawings of superimposed metastable resonances, spaced in twice exploded multi-phase-locked states of a graphical presentation of the pure relative motion e-Pi-i function.., which is why Bergson's Intuitive observation and Einsteinian Theoretical Curvature-s are mathematically corresponding in probability positioning alignment with Euler's Intuitions. (Navigational symbology of logarithmic condensate probability mapping, ..of course)
"Probing" the quantized gravity turbulence in/of the Universe is equivalent to reading the results of everything all-at-once forever, Singularity Conception, the "annealing" Calculations of Superspin Superposition-point Singularity.
Ie The big Quantum Computer in the sky and focused at the LIGO detector movie of the .dt instant-interval Eternity-now.
"Wormhole" => fractal scaling of invariant coherent cohesion objectives/Bose-Einstein Condensate, in pulsed resonances of e-Pi-i interference positioning.., make traveling at constant velocities "straight" through flat-space = .dt general sum-of-all-histories Time, so accelerating+/- is curving the metastable resonances curvature.., Wormhole Quantum Jumping, by "dragging the Inertial frame".., corresponding to Inflation-Modulation+/-..
If space/time is gravity, is gravity space and time?
Gravity is due to warping/bending of space time
What's the meaning of "Ahh-Ehh" at min 31:35 through min 32:00 ??
1:02:52 isn't the concept of singularity going away in favor of string (theory)?
Thank you Caltech family, Thank you Kipp, Karren, Steven, that was beautiful, If my opinion has merit on the matter of creating a time tech. machine, I think I can prove that that is not possible to compose from Rs ASP Rp any such machine, although I have not spent the time to conceder the other 2 spectrums of our Y-coordinate Universe, Ts, Qs, I suspect the answer is the same as it is for Rs, but I don't know for sure, I very much look forward too being you and solving these problems, peace and love, Doug.
Douglas Dorman I believe that we are heading to a new Heaven and new Earth otherwise known as N.ew J.erusalem...
While I am no genius as to what exactly he is saying, I will give him credit for Interstellar. :D
interstellar is science fiction, so is this!
General Relativity is 'science fiction' or pure mathematics, but not real physics!
@@rubenmartinez2994 Clearly, there are a lot of physicists who disagree with you. Care to state your objections?
@@rubenmartinez2994 what, just what?
Einstein was born in 1879 NOT 1876 (slide at 4:00 is wrong)
Which paper does he talking about at 45:05
It would seem like they are trying to measure the viscosity of spacetime.
What a cool thought... I've heard the Higgs field described in similar terms. So if a rotating massive body drags spacetime around with it, does that bleed off angular momentum? Will the Earth stop turning in a few billion years?
4:20 WRONG:
Einstein (1879 - 1955)
Johnny Q Still dead though.
@@drbonesshow1 He may have been reborn in which case he's not dead. We don't know.
Also In the movie Arrival SPOILERS
the linguist sees all times together so she sees her daughter Hannah is alive & playing in the future she's not dead because OVERALL Hannah's life is a huge process = a huge number of experiences a few of which were the death process
so I think maybe when you say Einstein's dead maybe you're not seeing time correctly because time is just like the 3 dimensions of space. Birth & death are like east & west.
@@alwaysdisputin9930 Uncle Joe Biden is brain dead with no hope for resurrection that we do know. He probably can't even get an erection. And if he did we'd be the only ones to know it.
@@drbonesshow1 Republican Presidents always have recessions. ALWAYS. Trump, Bush, Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Eisenhower, Hoover. ALL OF THEM HAD RECESSIONS. Republicans are the recession party. It's very strange that Americans keep on voting for a party that is so obviously bad for USA. By contrast Democrats hardly ever have recessions
@@alwaysdisputin9930 No matter the party, they all end up with receding hair-lines.
some iffy analogies but I’ll forgive it since it was a good talk
wow. a video from 2005.
Nobody:
Professor Thorne: "Eyyyyyuuuppp"
16:21 Watch it without sound xD
16:40 I just discovered something enlightening!
Such a simple idea. Did you try this experiment?
@@ASCENSiON1989 I just saw it here. That's why it's enlightening : it is so simple!
I like how all the LIGO stuff came true for exactly Steven Hawking 70th birthday.
this only has 200k views? how.
Because that's how many people watched
@@whirledpeas3477 ok
If only Kip understood General Relativity,
Newtown predicted gravitational deflection of sunlight as well. Kip doesn't mention that because he knows as well as I do that the audience is already aware of it. And Kip also fails to mention the measurements of bent sunlight in Sobral in 1919, which were closer to Newton's predictions than Einstein's. But of course Kip knows that his audience is already aware of that. Doesn't he? And Kip also neglects to bring to the attention of the audience that the 1919 Principe results were found to be faulted in about 1930, and then only tenuously rehabilitated in the wake of World War 2.
But then, he is fully apprised of the fact that every member of the audience is totally aware of that. . .
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You OK??
You seem a little disturbed.
and...everyone deals with BH as if they are a cul de sac. What if they are not? What if they are the universe'' way of separating mass from gravity? Up with Gravitons. :-)
his rate of aeeuuhhh is very high
the aeeeuuhhh is strong in this one
I know he can't explain a fraction of the real concepts here but the thing that bothers me is how these lasers are meant to measure dilations of space, when what they measure is units of space. It seems like measuring how much your steel rule expands when heated by measuring it against another similarly hot steel rule.
+chrisofnottingham They use laser interferometry to avoid that. It's like sending a pulse of laser before the warp and measuring the same pulse after it to see how they compare
measure in two directions
52:58 eLISA launch: 2034??
glitches in matrix
My hypothesis that Dark Matter is not a WIMP, but maybe is a deformation of space-time by which the curvature of space-time ALONE is the cause of the gravitational effect. Gravity is the consequence of the curvature of space-time. It may be possible that the structure of space-time itself could be warped without the presence of mass. Space-time has been shown to react like a fabric by warping, twisting, and propagating independent of mass. These properties have been proven with observations of gravitational lensing, frame dragging, and now gravitational waves. Fabrics can be stretched, pressured, and/or heated to the point of deformation. Such extreme conditions were all present during inflation, so it is plausible that space-time’s elastic nature could have hit its yield point and permanently deformed. Therefore, if gravity is the consequence of the warping of space-time, and fabrics can be permanently deformed, then a deformation could create a gravitational effect independent of mass. Thus, the unidentified dark "matter" that seems to be so elusive to modern science may not be matter at all but merely warped deformities causing gravitational effects. DM could be a microscopic black hole with no mass at the center...
Prediction: Spacetime's elastic property hits a yield point, so only that part of geodesic's "stretch marks" would remain after inflation stopped. These steep gravitational wells would not follow the inverse square law. I am looking for Theorists or Experimentalists to help me develop ways to test this hypothesis. Is there a way observationally to test it’s gravity does not follow the inverse square law?
Hlava prepne za sekundu celi mozog 🧠
Eyyyyyuuuppp
31:51
is he going to get Nobel prize because LIGO discovered first ever gravitational waves?
Yep! He was!
I don't think Einstein was born in 1876 more like 1879
skip 3 minutes at the start :)
why he look older than 2014
+eng034 Magic. Specifically, stealing the life essence of babies through human sacrifice.
+eng034 he travelled through time, obviously.
podľa sna každý lieta a všetko lieta je môže že podľa myšlienky ktorá som mal vo vesmíre v čase vedeli na všetko od povedali je to logické pre to že bez komunikácie nebolo by to možné
Niečo to musí mať spoločné aj časom
HEinstein showed up again.
Prof Belzebub Thorne
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Hey Kip. So Einstein says "warped spacetime did it". Fabulous. So what's all this about gravitational waves then?
This is directed at twelve year olds. When does the adult segment begin?
Big Ali G fan.
Tim gravity no one understand
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Hi Tim 👋
Wrong
letel som z planéty na planétu z jednou nohou na zemi z druhým krokom som bol na druhú planétu z jedným krokom na druhú planétu ne trvalo to ani sekundu každá planéta trochu od povedala aký život je na planétach jedna od povedala napi sa vody aby si mohol lietať ďalej kde kde som do prešiel do druhého vesmíru podobné ako cez olej pre to že som už nemohol sa vrátiť ale ako by vedeli už vopred tak som natrafil na oceán a nad oceánom plno malé svietelka ktoré lietali nad oceánom ja som bol stále v myšlienke ktorá mňa na padla že ako tu žijú hneď som dostal od poved mi pijeme z oceánu a už to svetielko vedelo od povedalo napi sa aby si mohol byť nad oceánom tak som sa napil s videl som koľko sa na pijem toľko sa na plní späť necítil som tak ako som chcel možné že by zostal vo nad oceánom tak som sa prebudil zo sna ale zo sna sa dá zistiť keby som mal lepšiu predstavu mohol by som existovať vo vesmíre nad oceánom živí kde som si všimol že myslím si že nemal som telo len oči 👀 s mozog kde seba som nevidel možno preto že som musel byt veľmi máli
CALTECH -
If GAS BONDING is a fact, Gravity/Black Holes are not .
All downward falling motion, including Newtons apple, begins when rising gas molecules becomes trapped gas molecules, known as GAS BONDING, which take on a state of solid mass, blocking out it's electrons motion, it's fire power, thus becomes ENERGY LOCK lifeless gas molecules, and falls downward in real time, following it's electrons unlimited potential velocity, at the speed of light, connecting with the earth ENERGY CONSERVATION SYSTEM, establishing a downward falling path for trapped lifeless gas molecules/solid objects only.
Equating the above fact with the physical universe, same as Einstein E = MC2 equates with the physical universe.
E = ENERGY =MM = MOLECULES MOTION = Molecules in motion within star flames earth gases birds and balloons plains and rockets, even us humans rise from molecules in motion, creating an ENERGY FLOW, the ruling force of the universe.
M = MASS = GB = GAS BONDING = Gas Binding take on a state of solid mass, blocking out it's electrons motion, it's fire power, thus becomes ENERGY LOCK lifeless gas molecules, and falls downward in real time.
C2 = LIGHT SPEED = E = ELECTRONS = Electrons Unlimited Potential Velocity, at the speed of light, connects with the earth ENERGY CONSERVATION SYSTEM, establishing a downward falling path for trapped lifeless gas molecules/solid objects only.
Gravity is a mythical concept mentally applied for guaranteed results to it's point of origin, the BRAIN !
This they should've known !
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Mal som niekoľko pekných snov o vesmíre ste Matematici tak musíte vidieť v jednom sne som videl ako sa vesmír zmenil farbu za sekundu príklad môže sa stať že zima nemusí byť
This remember me about scientific debate "how many angels can stand on the needlepoint". Same academic distance, same omniknowledge, same scientific authority, same certainty, even same false modesty.
Ok, today those academic "scientists" claim that noble scientists of that time were same of those who today disagree with this obligatory knowledge. No it wasn't, these are same type of people - academics, and same type of dogmas - academic "scientific facts". And real investigators, people who explore make scientific experiments are marked as witches, magicians, heretics. Bonfires are still burning, churches are still behind all, every knowledge must be approved by churches and everything is in faith and hierarchy.
Academia is exactly opposite of Science.
The lecturer needed some "ginseng" he was distressed. He kept slurring on his word "Aiagah...aaigah...aaigah". He needed to take more sleep and if he drank too much coffee, he might have to stop.
Your assumptions are dumb
New finding in 2010 you don't know before, in general theory of relativity Albert Einstein ignored refraction of light. Einstein's proving method (EPM) via eclipse is unscientific and deeply wrong. It is very surprising. Please read on the reliable source the book The Universe and DR.Einstein, by Lincoln Barnett, London, 1949, Preface by Albert Einstein himself, page 78 - 79.
Vo sne som videl ako sa celi vesmír zmenil farbu za sekundu a planéty ne existovali to druhý sen ľudia existovali ne v také to podobe ako na zemi komunikácia zostala
In this parabolic trajectory Professor did not mention that kinetic energy of apple, drag of G force, and air friction created geometry of apple's parabola. Time is always involved. Time on the beginning of parabola (slower time), and time on highest point (fastest time) on parabola has nothing to do with shape of parabola. In this case slower time , and faster time do not exist on this parabola, simply because in nature does not exist slower, and faster time... Parabola is significantly bent. So if time would play roll in this parabolic curvature, time difference between "slower time", and "faster time" must have significant "length", and this is not the case here. SPACE CANOT BE WORPED. TIME CANOT BE WORPED. SPACE IS NOT FLAT. Photons are material particles wich could be influenced or warped by Sun's gravitational force, this does not mean that space is warped, and so on. Unfortunately we still have professors copyist presenting wrong Einsteins stories wich are not in
harmony with nature.
+slavko polovina
Time in nature is still undefined, but can be subjectively experienced as faster or slower. In an Einsteinian world, time can run slower the faster an object moves.
[Time is always involved.] and [In this case slower time , and faster time do not exist on this parabola, simply because in nature does not exist slower, and faster time...] seem to be contradictory.
Time does not run so there is no faster or slower Time. There is no Einsteinen world! We know in what kinda world we live. Time does EXIST with its natural properties anywhere where is the Space. Time does allow existence of the Universe. Without time will be no Universe. Of course we can experience Time, or not to be consciences about time, specifically when we sleep.Time can't be measured with a clock. Why? There is no way that we can "hook" in Time with our device called clock. The clock is our creation wich can't be somehow tuned into Time. Time as a natural phenomena is not what is the clock. Amusingly most of the Professors in the field of Physics do mix Time and clock including Einstein. But Time does allowed us to have working clock in Time, so we can orient ourself in Space and Time. Time can "take" anything anywhere in the Space or anything synchronized in infinite number of locations in space .This makes Time absolute not relative. Simply Time is "medium" which possesses double infinite capacity. It is "spread" through space infinitely, and can "take" infinitely fast number of infinite events.Time does not allow limitations. This is beauty of Time... Einstein did not understood this. According to Einstein time is relative wich means that time in different points in space is different and also according to EinsteinTime stops when object riches speed of light. Wrong again... Also Time is not revolving around us, or Time does not exist because of us.
We have intelligence good enough to conclude, or we feel thanks to our conscience that Time does exist. During our existence we are simply "submersed" in Space and Time. Also Time and Space are two different entities. For Einstein Time and Space is the same and he did named Tame and Space Timespace. This is wrong... He did created absolute mess with his statements in so called modern Physics and mess was a politically planed, so Masses would not get proper education. Plan is to kip real science behind closed doors. We can't defy Time in relation to our self because time existed bifore us, during our life and after us.
Einstein's equations had been proven several times with impeccable precision. How do you explain this? Is there a bigger picture where Einstein's theory fits perfectly and we're still fundamentally clueless about the universe?
ua-cam.com/video/QBorBKDnE3U/v-deo.html
The theory states that if an observer measures a photon as he's moving away from it, time has to make up for the distance the photon travels.
This is WRONG!
The photon is still traveling at C. It just creates the illusion to the observer that the photon is traveling at a different speed relative to his position.
If I drive my car at 150mph, passing another car driving at 30mph, I will measure that car moving at 120mph away from my position (backwards)
But that car is actually still just moving at 30mph.
The speed you measure any object traveling is relative to your own position but it does not change the actual speed of the object itself.
Therefore, time remains unchanged to both observer and object.
Here are the facts:
1) Time is not a force of nature which consists of matter or energy. Therefore nothing can interact with it. Not even gravity or velocity.
2) Time is a concept created by mankind to calculate speeds & locations in space and schedule events.
3) Time can't be distorted, slowed down or speed up. You can't age slower or faster or travel to the future or the past.
+Thrillseeker303 You have made a rather large blunder. Yes, you will measure the car moving 120mph away from you while in your car, but if you were not moving relative to the road, you would measure the car to be moving at 30mph. Both of these speeds are simply relative to your velocity in space (neither one is the only correct speed). If that didn't make sense, think about being at the center of our galaxy. Now you would measure the car travelling at 140 miles per second (roughly). This is also correct, as long as you clarify from what reference frame you are measuring.
There is no such thing as objective position, speed, or acceleration. Those properties can only be described with respect to another position, speed and acceleration (subjective).
Your facts are anything but that. They simply prove how little you've read on the subject of space and time. Not worth a proper response until you stop making shitty youtube comments and educate yourself.
We are incredibly lucky to have access to more information than any other generation of humans before. Lets put it to good use!
+Leo Mckee-Reid You've just proved that speed is relative. And that there is no absolute speed for any object in the universe.
Then how could speed affect time if it's relative to whoever measures it?
I know this must sound crazy to you but I know for a FACT Einstein has made a huge error in his general theory of relativity.
Time cannot slow down or speed up and I will not rest until I can prove it.
You cannot treat time as a fourth dimension which forces can interact with. Forces can only interact with matter or energy.
And since time is neither, NOTHING can interact with it. Period.
To say your body would age less quickly because gravity interacts with time is idiotic. Your body is made up of matter. Space and time are non existent. They are simply tools to measure the position of objects which consist of matter.
Einstein said that the product of acceleration is indistinguishable from gravity which is true even though he also knew gravity and acceleration are not the same.
But acceleration and velocity are not the same either.
Acceleration is gradually speeding up from a stationary position to any constant speed.
Velocity is a constant speed. Acceleration creates a G-force. Constant speed does not.
Imagine you leave Earth in a spaceship.
As you lift off, the ship speeds up (acceleration).
The gravity of the Earth combined with the acceleration will cause you to feel backwards pressure (G force).
The G force would gradually disappear as you leave the gravitational pull of the Earth and reach a constant speed.
In vacuum space, as you travel at a constant speed without being affected by any gravitational field, you would not feel any pressure anymore. You could float freely within the fast moving spaceship without being aware of the speed at which you're going.
Even though your spaceship may be traveling at the speed of light. There would be no G-force whatsoever!
This would also apply to light as it travels at a constant speed and never accelerates.
If two spaceships traveling at lightspeed pass each other in opposite directions.
Both observers would measure Each other's speed as twice the speed of light.
But since nothing can travel faster than light, the observer would think that time has to make up for the distance.
So if you make time go half as fast, your effectively force your calculation to be correct.
But the observer's point of view on the velocity of the other ship has no effect on the real speed or time of the ship.
Both ships are still traveling at C and time is unaffected for both ships.
And I want to add. You may think I'm stupid for not believing a theory which is generally accepted.
But from my point of view, I think you're just as stupid to fall for this mathematical illusion.
You just don't seem to see the gaping flaws in the theory.
+Thrillseeker303
Allow me to address what I think is your key obstacle in understanding special relativity. Nearing the end of you long response, you said this:
"But the observer's point of view on the velocity of the other ship has no effect on the real speed or time of the ship."
Now, what do you mean by REAL speed of REAL time? The entire point of this heavily proven theory (through an incredible amount of evidence) is that REAL speed is not a property of the universe; it is only a relative quality, same for time.
If you "know for a FACT Einstein has made a huge error", then you must have done the math or conducted some impressive experiment that disproves arguably the greatest theory (and most studied by mathematicians and physicists all over the world) in the last 110 years.
If you haven't worked out the math, and know exactly what's wrong, or haven't conducted an experiment, then ask yourself this: Why do I, someone with relatively limited knowledge in physics, think with 100% certainty (and nothing but a poorly worded thought experiment) that I've disproved a theory that the greatest minds of the last century have been unable to see?
I'm not saying you couldn't be right, but just look at what evidence you have vs the enormous claim you are making that goes against over 40 years of incredibly accurate experimental verification.
Just read about experiments that prove the existence of time dilation (there are quite a lot), and only respond if it's a link to your experiment, your "corrected" equations, or anything that's not sloppy, C- undergraduate level understanding.
I apologize for being rude, I just think you need to stop acting so sure of yourself. Have some doubt, and you won't seem so arrogant. Despite my edgey response, enjoy your time reading about this stuff. We're both very lucky to live in such a fruitful time of information and understanding.
+Leo Mckee-Reid I'm open to the fact that I may be wrong as any scientist should always keep in mind. However, I can't help but feel very sure about this. Regarding the atomic clock experiment in the airplane. How could anyone even consider a difference of 40 billionths of a second "proof" that time itself can slow down???
What about the other variables to take into account when you do an experiment like this?
The environment on the plane may bring certain forces which could interact with the atomic frequency of the equipment. Electromagnetism, static electricity, heat, cold, air pressure, G-Force, vibrations,... all of which may affect the outcome of the atomic clock. We don't even know the behavior of particles down at the quantum level when these forces are applied.
So how can we assume that it's time itself which is slowing down instead of the equipment being impaired by a force we have overlooked.
This experiment should not be considered undeniable proof that time itself can slow down.
Part III: u' = u - v is called the Galilean velocity transformation. It is consistent with Newton's Laws and absolute time. It is the ONLY transformation equation that is consistent with absolute time in a flat spacetime (I won't get into technical details but it can be proven mathematically for a universe like ours there are only two possibilities: Galileo and Lorentz, which I'll get into later). However, it turns out that the laws of electromagnetism DO NOT follow this rule. If two observers moving with respect to each other watch a fast moving electron, u' IS NOT equal to u - v. I will go into why in part IV.
Why do physicists dress so abysmally?
Because their minds are elsewhere.
Because everyone does big shits
Because they are focussed on actual relevant facts, not superficialities.
Aaaigghhh aaaigghh
Kip Thorne wrongly teaches that in 1905 Einstein deduced the relativistic effects (time dilation, length contraction etc) from the first postulate (the principle of relativity) alone. Actually, the second postulate was crucial but false. The speed of light (relative to the observer) does vary with the speed of the light source, as predicted by Newton's emission theory of light and contrary to what Einstein postulated in 1905. This is evident from the following quotes:
www.philoscience.unibe.ch/documents/kursarchiv/SS07/Norton.pdf
"These efforts were long misled by an exaggeration of the importance of one experiment, the Michelson-Morley experiment, even though Einstein later had trouble recalling if he even knew of the experiment prior to his 1905 paper. This one experiment, in isolation, has little force. Its null result happened to be fully compatible with Newton's own emission theory of light. Located in the context of late 19th century electrodynamics when ether-based, wave theories of light predominated, however, it presented a serious problem that exercised the greatest theoretician of the day."
philsci-archive.pitt.edu/1743/2/Norton.pdf
"In addition to his work as editor of the Einstein papers in finding source material, Stachel assembled the many small clues that reveal Einstein's serious consideration of an emission theory of light; and he gave us the crucial insight that Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity. Even today, this point needs emphasis. The Michelson-Morley experiment is fully compatible with an emission theory of light that CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE."
books.google.com/books?id=JokgnS1JtmMC
"Relativity and Its Roots" by Banesh Hoffmann, p.92: "There are various remarks to be made about this second principle. For instance, if it is so obvious, how could it turn out to be part of a revolution - especially when the first principle is also a natural one? Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding train can do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will conform to Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation to account for the null result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether. If it was so obvious, though, why did he need to state it as a principle? Because, having taken from the idea of light waves in the ether the one aspect that he needed, he declared early in his paper, to quote his own words, that "the introduction of a 'luminiferous ether' will prove to be superfluous."
www.amazon.com/QED-Strange-Theory-Light-Matter/dp/0691024170
Richard Feynman, "QED: The strange theory of light and matter", p. 15: "I want to emphasize that light comes in this form - particles. It is very important to know that light behaves like particles, especially for those of you who have gone to school, where you probably learned something about light behaving like waves. I'm telling you the way it does behave - like particles. You might say that it's just the photomultiplier that detects light as particles, but no, every instrument that has been designed to be sensitive enough to detect weak light has always ended up discovering the same thing: light is made of particles."
*Cool story bro. Yet, still you jump straight in the bandwagon of FTL conspiracists, and dismiss 110 years of real S.R.+G.R. facts. Not very wise.*
Other than complete scientism, what if the speed of light isnt consistent?
Errrrrr earth is defo flat
another scientist! throwing apple - in any moment millions parents dream of to give to their kids - to make a point. How can a scientist so thoughtless do ANY GOOD THINGS for humanity? These are our pioneers in CalTech, the same is true in MIT.
What are you saying?
Jason Williford Is that really so hard to understand? I am saying using an apple or two or three apples to demonstrate gravity is absolutely stupid and disrespecting food. I saw similar demo in MIT. Can't believe that elite universities of the world fail humanity and so focused on science that they forget simple thins. Millions of people dream of eating a single apple. I hope you get it now.
Are you trolling? WTH? I think I get it. It's just an apple, and there will always be starving people. We can't be considerate of every minor point of view throughout the world. Nothing would ever get done. Stop whining. That's Kip Thorne; he can do whatever he wants.
I think best i can hope and wish for heartless big brains is to get to a point in their life so that they can see and feel the difference between an Apple and a plastic ball. Good luck!
+Jason Williford scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/10314035_488130011386921_7462392461700872013_n.jpg?oh=06d0072b2f44bd9ac62a6783bb51d947&oe=574B19E4
lecture mainly to show off, amuse himself and hawk his book and not to explain GR in an easily understandable manner.
The ability to understand is in the mind of the listener.
You have my sympathies.
Kip, when do you stop the BS ?
Are you "attracted" or are you "pushed" ?
He complains about NASA budget- should get his priorities right. With all the money we've wasted on this hypothetical pencil pushing we could have won the the War On Terror already.
James Smith I'll be happy to pay for your trip to Syria!
James Smith 4 trillion USD vs 200 billion USD over the years... You need to learn your numbers buddy. And that 200 billion gives you all things that NASA does: air travel, earth observation, ISS, planetary exploration, etc.
The Earth Is Changing Very Rapidly , Terrorism Is Probably The Least Of Our Concerns.