FFXI is special because if you don't want to be a useless party member and leech you need to slow down and farm. Which adds a whole new layer to the leveling experience. It makes it a journey, not just something you just bang out super fast to get to end game. This is even more true with your first job. It's a struggle keeping up with gear at the start. But once you have a job high enough to reliably farm gil, it becomes a lot easier, but that journey never disappears because it repeats with every job you level. Of course until you level them to all cap. But that can take years for most people.
Gil is definitely another great aspect of the best MMO in history, FFXI. Crafting is another example of importance to an MMO. FFXI crafting was fantastic; crafting during specific times, or days or with specific materials, made it very unique... and on top of that, having a chance to get a +1 or +2 was addicting. Favorite game!
I can still hear the sound of rainstorms in my ears from farming in Pashow Marshlands for hours during 75 era. Some things are better left in the past.
I was dirt poor in XI for seven years. Once I started XIV it was a big drive for me to level all gatherers and crafters to be as self sufficient as possible.
I always loved being a taxi and teleporting people to the Craigs, have a show or movie on just randomly invite people taking their Gil and teleport away
I always taxi for people when I am in town and doing nothing. It may not be a lot. But it adds up over years. If you are not doing anything anyways, why not help someone out? I have probably made 10+ million just from taxing people for 1-5K a tele over the last 3-4 years. A lot of people get free teles too if I like them or they are repeat customers.
i always enjoyed picking up those game changing items and really feeling the difference in my character in ffxi back in the day. I havn't played since about 2007, going to dive back in with HXI in a few weeks but to this day the best part about saving up and getting those big items was after joining a party, and doing well for a few pulls then you see " has examined you". yep, i have those items buddy ;) you're welcome.
I remember farming Silk Thread and Yag necklaces for like 2 weeks straight to buy a full set of level 24 Chainmail before letting myself step foot in the Jungle when I was new. I eventually discovered mining Platinum Ore and desynthing Quad Backplates in Palborough was really profitable for a low level at the time and did that for a long time until I got high level enough for greener gil making pastures.
On everything sacred I promise you back in the 75 days my college roommates and myself + my little brother use to ALWAYS run BCNM 20 as blms in hopes of getting "Mannequin Hands" as a drop so we could put it in our bazaar and camp out in front of Jeuno during classes and hope somebody bought them and it was like Christmas day when I'd come home from class and see that my hands sold that gil was well spent on spells............. LONG LIVE JEUNO
@@Rem694u2 yeah Ni was a big money maker back then as well, I forget which one dropped Sleepga II but that spell was like the most expensive around the 75 era, I actually got my blm to 75 before getting it which technically would make sense in exp parties but still.
Now that I've finished watching, my three gil-making memories of the 75-era are: 1. Silk thread farming at lower levels 2. Camping Argus in Maze of Shakhrami with two friends for 24 hours - we actually got the tag, the kill, and the Peacock Charm. Sold it for 9,000,000 gil on the AH and split it between the three of us. 3. The Waughroon Shrine Operation Desert Storm BCNM - I remember grouping up with people to do this BCNM and actually getting a venomous claw on my turn (and I'm pretty sure I decided to have a Scorpion Harness crafted with this instead of selling it). And great video! I share the sentiment of showing up to a party with all the best gear equipped. You could get a reputation for grouping based on how good your gear was!
Ah, back when Scorp Harness was the meta. That was quite some time ago. I scrimped and saved 5 mil for mine back in 2006, mostly off selling silent oils.
@@Nightweaver1 Lol, walking around in a Scorpion Harness was like being royalty. Then you had the select few strutting around in a Scorpion Harness +1. I want to say those sold for like 20-30mil+...
Money is something I learned to make while also getting Exp and other things. O.Kote is a great example, the Yagudo and Crabs have good drop rates for decent gil while also camping the NM in question. Another example would be, say, the Sahagin behind the gold beastcoin door can drop spells worth a lot of gil a piece but also some NMs spawn right there. I could go on, it's real useful info!
Oh man... I remember my very first character in FF11... I just leveled, sold EVERYTHING I had to afford upgraded gear... died my first time out... leveled down.... couldn’t use any of my gear haha.
Lol you remember doing EXP parties and leveling up and then you were like I gotta go. But lets kill a couple more so I can have a buffer, in case I die walking back to town.........
Nothing like a little tarutaru blm leveling to 75 all proud, change gear. Now new and improved ready to anything decided to go to the Gods and fight the damn turtle with a group.... everybody died de-level naked tarutaru in the heavens good times lmao.
Heh, one of the key ways I used to make money when I was starting out was buying armor from this one vendor in Windurst, over by the docks with the spell vendors, and then selling them on the AH at a hiked up price. I guess a lot of people didn't know about this particular vendor or what he sold, so they'd buy it from me at an inflated price on the AH. Wasn't the most ethical thing to do I suppose, but it worked well in the beginning, along with selling moat carp.
Can't knock the hustle. If people are too lazy to do the leg work , make your bank. I made a lot doing this with regional vendors when beastmen controlled the territories I would sell their stuff expensive. lol
I remember back in the day on Odin server (Aht Urhgan was the latest expansion) I was a noob and I was farming Grain Seeds in front of Bastok from killing Walking Saplings and a stack of Grain Seeds (12 pieces) was selling in the AH easily for 18,000 - 22,000 gil! So even as a noob I was able to farm more then 100,000 gil whenever I needed it.
Always a pleasure to see Ifrit's Cauldron - I was an avid miner there, still know the place like the back of my hand. I enjoy the risk factor there that puts off the vast majority of players, losing time in the form of exp from dying whilst mining in a dangerous zone filled with magic agressive bombs and vampiric bats. Also, if you need tips on how to make gil on Eden, you don't need to make a whole video like this as a ruse to get people to give tips in comments! We're onto you! ;D Hahaha Great stuff as always buddy
One piece of gear that I farmed as much as I could with my personal sky ls back in the day was Byakko's Haidate. It never, ever dropped for me. Until yesterday. I saw someone selling the pop items in their bazaar, and I thought why not. Went up to sky, tried to figure out how to get to his island since I hadn't been there for years, and then finally fought him. Annnnnd, drop. I was so happy, even though none of my jobs are that low to use it. But mission accomplished.
Man I remember back when I played XI in 2004, a repeatable quest on an airship out of Jeuno that was something like 500g every 15 minutes. I just did that until I had enough for the full Iron Musketeer's Cuirass Set and then just stopped playing.
There are 2 times in XIV you have to buy gear 1. on a tank you're leveling when you're 55, 65, 75, and soon to be 85. your free poetics gear stops being effective to tank at that point. 2. raiding on savage the same week the savage raid comes out. crafted gear brings you to the new minimum item level to clear that savage raid. I agree to an extent about the gil grind, but it really just depends on the game. In XI because of how it is I'm expecting to need money for everything if I don't want a massive time sink. The MMO landscape has just changed over the years and losing lateral gear progression in favor of linear item levels has a lot to do with it. You can't get an overpowered level 35 pair of gloves that will last you till cap because they have to keep scaling the gear up constantly. You could get level 35 gloves that are item level 50, but that still has an objective lifespan on the gear. Man idk. MMOs just aren't designed to suck up all your free time any more and I sort of miss it but I also don't miss it at all. It's such a weird feeling.
Many current mmo throw money at you. BDO gives you millions of silver for logging in lol. The real meat is buying stuff from their cash shop. many mmo moved from virtual currency to cash shops or gambling.
Feels kind of weird saying this but I appreciated that gil was a challenge to get. I think modern mmos have gotten too endgame-centric. In XI, the leveling up process was not only leveling the job but also (as you indicated) getting the gear, leveling crafting, being able to buy something that made your character better. Yes getting the drop from an nm kill was great, but equally satisfying was finally being able to buy a piece of gear you've been trying to get. I told a friend of mine that what I miss in modern mmos is the wonder of the game, the feeling of accomplishment when you you reach a personal goal, and that the process of leveling is just as important as what you can do once you've capped the leveling process. Needless to say I'm talking about the 75 era. I have played recent retail XI and it's fun, but it's a different game, it's more like other mmos and I think that's a shame. I'm a big fan of horizontal progression and very few (if any) modern mmos embrace that concept.
Very true. But I do wonder, when some items a mob drops are worth 15g, or a quest gives you a reward of 1k gil (and it cost you 2k to travel there), maybe a cap on the top costs in the game. Is something really worth 9 million? Lu Shangs is worth 2 million. But something that you camp for, and fight, and get a drop, you could do that in 2 rl days? Lu Shangs takes at least a month, so the price is understandable. A 2 day camp for a drop from a mob, should not cost more. I would like to see a cap of 3 million. Unless quests and some other items start paying more.
@@Whistler-jx7pk You can run across caps on some of the private servers, but I think most companies that produce games let the market decide. Yeah you get some outrageously expensive items (I'm looking at you Kraken Club), but equally you can have something that's incredibly rare, but not very desirable. That will be relatively cheap and a hard sell. I guess what I'm saying is that it's very hard for a company to try and keep a market flatten when it's the players who are setting the prices.
@@Whistler-jx7pk Have you ever camped LoO for weeks only to get one claim and no drop? Some items are worth every penny 😊 Value is in the eye of the beholder
I say this all the time and response I get is that they have busier lives now but that was the beauty of it. You just get to your goals a little slower, the game doesn’t make it easier for everyone and miles stones become more significant.
This was one of the things I loved the most about XI, once you'v made enough progress & want to switch it up you can always go out and make Gil, even a stack of Wild Onions are 30k Pheonix atm !! (I thought Ide make Saltenas and sell the extra mats / food etc!) Really enjoying your content am a Returnee after 7 Years !!! Wish I hadnt left so long But fully lovin it & thanks for your updates/thoughts really insightful with a balance of entertainment !!!
I first became "rich" in game camping Goobue's for tree cuttings/moss. I remember goin drk/thf and outclaiming the RMT players. I did that for a month straight, and came out with millions! My friends then taught me how to "plant" them and turn them into tree saplings, which made even more $.. Good times!
You got the right idea. It takes some work to make gil in this game. I've been playing since 2007 and have farmed for all my crafts cuz it's cheaper, which means higher profit on the AH. 1 million for a piece of gear, pfffft, I've paid 30 to 50 million on single pieces and had to farm my ass off to get those items. I will admit to overnight fish hitting with multiple mules.... Until an update screwed my boy 🤬😞
Its been awhile since I played, this was in 75 days. I lvl'd alchemy to make crimson (somthing, lol I forgot) but when I actually made a +1, they sold for millions at a time, was a great money maker. Farming the ingredients was real time consuming though.
On the one hand I miss the "good old days", but on the other hand, I really appreciate how much more chill things became, and I don't have to spend a ton of playtime on making money
FFxi really makes you appreciate gear. i remember when i got my white mage af, i never took that off ! the same with my now obtained carbuncle hat. it is my PRECIOUS!
I'm sitting on like 500+ million in liquid gil but I have nothing to spend it on because I already leveled every class to max and geared them all. The only thing I could spend it on is upgrading some of my pieces to +1 but that requires getting the abjurations again which is tough because of the long ass waiting list and it feels bad taking a second abjuration when people haven't even got their first yet.
@@fredsanford1437 I cannot sell the gil, that would get me in trouble or banned. I do however give stuff away regularly to new players in need. But never to people who ask for it. For example if I party with new people in the dunes, or qufim or any low level area I will always hand out the best possible foods to everyone or hook them up with +1 weapons or armors because it helps me too by speeding the party up and making it more efficient. Then they can use or sell the items themselves when they outgrow them for a little extra money to fund their future endeavors. I feel like giving expensive stuff away for free to people hurts their experience though. It robs them of the satisfaction of earning something themselves. I know I would never take things for free I didn't earn. Nothing beats that feeling of farming your ass off for weeks to earn your first SH+1 or Hauby+1. You proudly show it off because you earned it with a lot of hard work. If someone just handed me one I wouldn't care about it nearly as much. At least that is how I feel about it.
Try flesheaters at night in the desert. They drop iron ore like 90% of the time. Farm the fire elementals while you're out there. Kill the spiders for webs in that same zone. Knowledge of the zones will help you a lot.
I kinda miss the grind for gil. It's still there...but XIV has an astronomical emphasis on item level compared to old-school XI, where you could wear lvl 7 boots into high level because there was no item level. It was more about min/maxing your stats yourself rather than getting the best ilevel gear available. (Yeah, you got some stinkers when partying-but it really dumbed down the gear avenue.) Gil wise, I was a hoarder and made sure to lot on anything to potentially sell over time. There were a few NPC vendors I would buy from and resell on AH. Made a few pieces of furniture to sell, did some beastmen circle fights, etc. Towards the end of my time I just grew chocobo feed in my mog house and npc'd it for an easy 30k-70k every 4 or so days
can you make a video series explaining in depth why certain items are good? Example I always hear leaping lizzy name and I see 3 agi and 3 DeX but I dont get what's so special about that. I've never played ff11 but I've played mmorpgs for 20 years.
Platinum Ruled Classic Everquest. Gear didnt have level restrictions and outside of raid gear was fully tradable (this changed later and level limitations were added), even gear from their HNM equivalent rare spawns. So you would tend to farm alot of money to buy gear, spells consumables, donating for teleports (a good way to make plat as well), etc.
I agree 100% with you on this. The feeling of doing your best to help and/or compete because of the extra stats felt completely worthwhile. I was a major NM hunter back when I played in the 75 era. Once I hit level 40 on PLD and started needing more gil, I decided to level THF to fix that. Never looked back and became the first NA TH4 on my server. It was a nice feeling to be sought out like a mercenary for treasure hunter, but I spent most of my time on my own hunts lol.
I did most of my farming in Dangruf Wadi during the 75 era. The worms dropped sulfur, zinc, copper, and flint. I could synth brass ingots and glass fibers or sell them all as is. The goblins there dropped decent amounts of gil, items, and magic scrolls that NPC for decent gil or on the AH if you were patient. The Geyser Lizard NM was usually up and the item it dropped NPCed for 4k gil. There were probably better farming spots but I liked this one because I never had any competition.
I went with the mentality of "every penny counts" when playing this back in the day. I'd not ignore enemies that dropped items that could NPC for a little gil (100+) or sell on the AH for 1K+. I valued even getting the Orcish Axe from Ronfaure orcs while farming for fire crystals and whatever else. It was all about getting that Brigandine+1 armor, Emperor Hairpin, etc while leveling. At 75, same mentality, but bigger goals. Sha'ir Manteel was my proudest equip to farm for. Was any of it needed? Not even close. It certainly made me more attractive to invite for groups though and gave me a point of pride. Sadly, I still have that same "every penny counts" mentality with modern FFXI and uhh... it's a severe hindrance that I really need to break one day.
Watching your videos about FFXI always gets me really pumped up to play it! But.. when those free log in campaigns come around for retail.. by about the 3rd day in I start questioning why I'm playing lol. The grind eats at my soul, I dunno if I'll ever be able to play on a 75 era server and relive that intense grind again. Maybe someday, but we'll see.
If you play one, just do it casually. Huntin has been on Eden for a long ass time and he just does it for fun here and there and his highest in still only like 53 RDM. You don't have to kill yourself grinding the game out doing HNMs if you just don't have the time. Take it nice and slow and enjoy the journey. Don't feel obligated to play. Especially private servers. They are free so theres no reason to force yourself to play.
I lasted about 2 weeks on Eden before I said screw that insane grind and found a level 99 server to get my nostalgic fix. Sometimes I wonder how I managed to put myself through all that, while at the same time I look back so fondly on the whole experience. Right time right place I guess because I could never do that today.
@@Rem694u2 Or just most of us are adults now and don't have the time for it, and would rather spend our time more productively or doing something else lol
Oh man gil was a separate grind, and what worked changed with the times. Here are some of the hustles I ran: - Moat Carp fishing in Rabao. There was a time when the tiny zone's oasis was filled with fishers, much more than the zone could handle. Stacks were going from anywhere from 10k - 20k on auction in their peak. - Mining. Usually a money maker but there were times where your returns were mediocre or your pickaxes would break quickly. I remember some lucky runs bringing back anywhere from 60-120k, with some terrible runs bringing back as little as 1-2k. - BCNM 30 runs. There was good money to be had if it was your Orb but you could always charge others to help with their attempts. - Teleport Taxi. Probably the easiest way to make money quick but having everyone 'ready to go' was always a challenge. Not something you can do for hours without going crazy, especially with others who were offering the same service. - Powerleveling / whmless low level parties. Who needs a healer inside the party when you could have a perfectly viable healer outside of the party? Things tend to die quicker when the whm is swapped out with another damage dealer. I'd ask people to pay 10k per person or what they could comfortably afford. Most Advanced jobs would pay the full 10k while other's would pay 500g (I'd believe them lol)
I was just thinking about this the other day. I love how this game has a full functioning economy and forces you to contribute in some way. And there are so many different ways you could do it. Every item in the game that drops is used for something, there are no trash items like in other games that are meant only to be vendored.
Having awesome gear means nothing if it is just thrown at you left and right In FFXI if you are wearing some kind of high ticket item like Emp Pin or Lizzy Boots, folks will know you worked your butt off for it either by camping the actual NM or grinding your way to being able to buy them. It makes them that much more special and impactful. Getting that "Whoa nice gear" /tell actually has some heft to it.
The Gil grind was the best part! Had a 3 person group that owned a NM pop! The consumables drove the FF11 economy though, and that’s missing from other MMOs, Hunter ammo, Food, MP juices, ninja tools. The need for those consumables is what made things like fishing or farming cockatrice for their drops worth while!
@@Huntin4GamesChannel There were a few in Lufaise Meadows that the bots didn't camp so we could rotate through them. Padfoot and his Astal Ring and Megalobugard and his Tusk were what made it worth while! I never made it to level 75 after years of playing but I had several hundred million gil lol.
One of the things I remember the most from FFXI is how every day before school my friend and I would wake up really early, like 4AM, just running through Giddeus for beehive chips. I never felt like I had enough money and it always made me feel like I had something I needed to do. Time was money was time for sure.
/me examines you. When you get a party invite and people look at what kind of gear you have on. It's always nice to have that HQ gear equipped. I would like to add, as a THF main.. what you did that week, was pretty much what I did the majority of the time of playing FFXI. I enjoy the grinding for gil, the farming NMS and finding new ways to make gil to get that HQ/rare equip you always wanted. I think the game would be boring if every casual player would be able to get the same stuff you work hard for. I was also moderately heavy into crafting. I was super enticed in how popular the Scorpion Harness (SH) was back in the day, I took bonecraft to 100, and leather to 60 so I could make my own SH+1 with my name on it. Also as a THF.. you usually had a lot of time on your hands while looking for party lol
When I went back to retail I still camped my O kote and after one million spawns I finally got the gloves. I know they don’t mean anything anymore but the feeling I get from finally getting those gloves and putting them on again was worth the hours of time spent.
Another thing about EDEN is that they had a crash almost a year ago and everyone lost their gil. Til this day i still didn't get my new starts 60k gil back. They NEVER returned it.
@@Bewefau they never responded, i've been on the discord and on the forums. All that gil i was farming up at the time to lvl sub jobs and travel costs. when they wiped that i quit for quite a long time.
meriphataud mountains OP is the best farm spot for a while. Flies for gausebit grass, list in singles on the auction house. If you're level 20ish you can solo xp there too. 30ish you can do buburimu peninsula Beach, leeches, sell to npc. Fastest money in those levels I believe.
On the server I used to play on, myself and a friend cornered the dhamel hide market, we bought the stacks out of the AH and single sold each single for 5k each. Had 300k in a week
I always farmed Spook in Ronfaure’s Tomb for my gil in FFXI. Made several hundred thousand gil that way in a single sitting. Afforded me my Scorpion Harness for DRG, SMN gear, and PLD gear. :D
My money ventures throughout the ages: 1) Insect paste bazaar in WindWoods 2) Low-level spell smuggling from Jueno to starter cities (AHs were separate) 3) Copper Ingot AH sales from 3g Copper Ore 4) Mithkabob & Yag Drink sales 5) Abyssea cruor armor sales on AH 6 (Current)) Red Curry Buns, hoarding all the Dragon Meat on Sylph as it gets posted on AH.
I'm grinding my weapons and gaming the system on Asura with Trusts. Cherukiki casts Regen, Haste, Protect, Shell, and Paralyze, and doesn't attack. Moogle follows Cherukiki around, giving an auto-refresh. So Cherukiki basically has an infinite MP pool. Then I use auto-run to follow the Balayangs in Fei Yin around while I hit them with the weakest weapon I can get in a given type. AFK the whole time. My bazaar message currently says "Don't mind me, I've just got an axe to grind with these bats"
Used to farm twincoons from Habetrot. Though it was a pain in the ass to camp against Deathknight cause he was also farming the gil to pay back his LS so he could finish his relic.
I am mixed here. As a Thief, I had some expensive gear to get (back in the day, Scorpion Harness and Blau Dolche were expensive as hell, along with the usual stuff like Sniper's Rings, Emperor's Hairpin and Leaping Boots.) But, I put in the work, and got them all. Once 99 cap came around, and all of that was not needed, I started losing interest. I took a lot of pride in my THF, I will always feel like I was the best on my server (I could outparse Black Belt MNK's on THF while also pulling) but once the economy changed, it did not feel the same. But, the lack of that grind was also a good thing, since FFXI was the grindiest of grinds. Making it more accessible was a good thing, and even though I put in the work for all of the good gear, doing away with the main gil grind allowed me to get my Mandau. I totally see the point that the gil grind was an important part of this game. I also kinda think it was a bit too much of a grind.
That's kind of what killed it for me too. I spent years farming and spend LS points to get the good stuff, soloing what I could and everytime a new level cap would come out, it would obsolesce something that I had spent massive amounts of time on and it would grate on me to no end.
I mainly BST in the early days of FFxi, and my favorite thing to do was trying to find interesting ways(for myself) to make Gil. Some of my favorites were: 1) Farming Rattling Egg in Ifrit's Cauldron to spawn Tarasque. Could get an egg every 1-3 hours, and earn 400,000 - 900,000 gil. Was super chill, and easy to do as a BST, and no one ever went to that location, so it was basically always free. 2) Farming Gem of the West in Sky, by killing Despot. Wasn't the easiest, since you risked having it stolen during a bird switch if someone walked by or failing charm a couple times, but was always fun to do, and earned you some extra exp. I don't remember how much i earned from a kill, but the additional doll shards, and mercury definitely added up. Also it was just a thrill to kill as a BST. 3) Farming hakutaku eyes, individually, or as a cluster. I recall not having a lot of competition for these on my server, and you could farm up a bunch of eyes fairly easy, since you didn't have to worry about powerful magic killing you. The only problem was trying to get behind various doors in Sea Serpent Grotto. Grinding for gil was definitely one of my favorite things to do in the game. It always brought my to new and interesting locations, and forced my to really learn how to navigate the world, and explore locations most people steered cleared of.
Me and a few BST friends of mine used to merc Hakutaku for people as an easy way to make gil. We'd either do the fight if you had a cluster or we'd provide one and do the fight for extra money.
@@hiflyer000 Being a BST was the best for earning money And definitely doing Hakutaku was one of the best. Having a group of decent BSTs to kill the NM was so fun. Sure it was slower then a group, but gathering up a full raid to kill Hakutaku was time consuming, and paying a group of BSTs to kill it for you was a good option if you had the money to pay for it. There were so many services you could do for people if you had a group of BSTs XD(sadly my server only seemed to have like..... 10 total at 75 x.x)
I would spend weeks grinding away in Rollenberry Fields farming crawler silks...thf boomerang w/ rabbits foot and four leaf clover. Who knows if they helped but it’s how I made cash. That and dysynthing yag necklaces.
I think the biggest issue was the time spawn of 72 hours. leaping lizzy 5 min's to 8 hour's I seen it take 16 hours to spawn once. Valkum Emp 8 hours unless you new the force spawn trick with those 2.
So on Eden, are the drops from Lizzy and the O. Kotes Yag NM rare/ex or are they still sellable? IIRC that change was made during the 75 era. One thing I love about the O. Kotes is they are one of the most obvious visual indicators of "I have good gear". They're big and bright red and it's a thing you look for in any SAM or MNK from 34 until almost max level. Plus they look pretty sick with the jiujitsu gi.
Haven't played XI since 2013, but I still remember my "secret" money maker: Mythril Picks. On my server, I could often buy/craft the materials to make them for ~3-4000g, and the Picks sold to NPCs for ~7000g each. All I was ever limited by was how much AH/Bazaars had in stock each day.
NPCing items in general or Mythril Picks specifically? I'm sure after nearly 8 years, someone else was bound to figure that one out eventually. Most all of XI's gil exploits when I played were about NPCing things for profit.
@@Mirvana Mythril picks specifically. there was a player who went around to all private servers and all he did all day was craft mythril picks and NPC them breaking the economy in the process, he was kinda infamous.
@@Jambara Lmao, well it wasn't me I promise lol. I didn't find it out until well after our economy was already destroyed by chocoblinkers, so I doubt I had much economic impact on Sylph lol.
since i started FF11 again, your channel has become one of my fav channels. Im having a hard time making gil..all ive been doing is selling stacks of fire crystals or earth crystals on AH. Any tips or thoughts on showing us good places or ways to make gil? Thank you soo much for this channel and for helping me rekindle my love of FF11 (just finished Lb1 yesterday!..super excited)
I enjoyed it. The grind was part of what made FFXI great for me. You wanted HNM drops for crafting or awesome gear you had to work for it. Get the spawn time, log in and camp your mark, call your LS to get ready for pop and hope you were fast enough to pull. Also man if you didn't want to buy the O Kotes you could've hunted Mee Deggi the Punisher for the Rare/EX version and hoped you got lucky or asked a Friend/Merc TH3/4 THF to help you.
Grinding and working towards something makes it much more rewarding. Gil becomes easier at higher levels in endgame and the LS can split the profits. Mining parties can be profitable. I've grinded in most zones to test and 60,000 Gil per hour is the benchmark. Anything higher is great for straight grind and selling to NPCs or AH. The rest comes from endgame, mining/HELM, etc. Combine it all together and it will add up. Peacock charm is my go-to neck piece on any server and the rest is a bonus. Focus on good gear for 1 job and have fun along the way! Merit parties endgame will make your character strong for replay value over gear as well :)
Heya Huntin, Always enjoy your videos and glad to see you're still on Eden. As always if you ever need anything feel free to ask. Sidenote to anyone who reads this comment, if you play on Eden or may play it in the near future, first off welcome, second I highly recommend reading the rules before play!
My main money making activity, from level 50-75 probably, was hunting tigers in Batalia Downs to turn in the fangs in Sand'Oria. When elemental staves were new I farmed for MONTHS to afford ice and dark... then the prices crashed. I was broken.
I must say, that is exactly the way i feel. Gil, doesn't matter where you earn it, as long as you are having fun and think that is meaningful for something on the foreseeable future of your character, like upgrading basic stuff, then shift to farm items to sell and at the same time progressing on the mastery system, testing new classes. It all goes around gil, its very rewarding when you put effort even knowing you could lack the coin for it sometime and then you set a goal to earn it back and everything falls back into place, its fun to have a variety of things to choose and do that makes the game even more pleasant, because the endgame could be the old get better and fight bigger mobs or could be im gonna stroll around to test mobs for drops, try a lifeskill and not just farm for better gear because its required, its more about the experience then it is the mobs and quests, everyday is a different goal and quest set by you. FFXI is a unique game on that part. Love the game and your content is nostalgic! Much praise @huntin4games
I'm the same way I refused to level Sam without Okote/Fuma and I basically just became the specter of Castle O. in my years of playing 11 I have gotten myself 3 different sets (Okote on offical, Ochimusha when they changed to rare/ex and okote on Nasomi) but I also got multiple friends and family members their okote and fuma too as well as random ls members. Now that I'm on Eden I gotta do it all over again and I cant wait.
I had billions of gil. Sure farmed some high end items, but in my day, i enjoyed the thrill of moving scarce items from one server to another. At times like delve, players on Ashura would have tons of clear items for say 40 to 60m, but servers like rag had none. So i wpuld buy and sell for say 120m. Finding items and buyers was fun. All because i have mules server hop. Made many friends that way.
I found a super niche gil farming method back in the day around 2006, I would farm the Hermit Rings from the worms in Dangruf Wadi, at the time they were worth 50k EACH, because the synthesis craft for it became eremites ring and the eremite's ring +1 was worth 1 million gil at the time. This was a level 20? ring where the +1 version gave 3 int total instead of 2.
You could do the same type of thing with the Ascetic's ring off carrion worms in King Ranperre's tomb. I remember farming Dodge Earrings off Ooze in Beadeaux. Slower drops, but larger rewards.
Davoi is a good npc farm. The guns from firebelchers are worth 10k and every piece of armor from orcs are 1.5k. plus spell scrolls and gold masks from troopers.
The hting that was frustrating was every time there was a decent way to sell items to NPCs for some gil, they would patch it out. I do think that money is more valuable as a resource in FFXI than other MMOs and that can be a good thing
I played as a Drk back in 2002-2006? I think. Anyway, I still remember my gil grind saving for my haubergeon, a must for any Drk. It was like 2 mil when I got it before a massive inflation spike due to rmt's, then when I hit 69 I sold it for 8 mil to buy a hauberk for like 6 mil or so. Optical Hat was a must have as well. I had to buy all the eyes and pay an Alchemist(I think) to make the eye cluster. I farmed up so much silk thread and tree saplings to gradually buy all the mats, and got the hat with a random group once I had my cluster. The eyes seemed plentiful, as I've noticed them in many bazaars, so for me it was probably easier to buy the eyes as I did than hunt the nm's for each. I don't remember how much it cost. I just remember so much of my play time was consumed with farming and becoming very familiar with the surrounding environments and finding random nm spawns but not getting any drops or being too low level to attempt solo.
I got super lucky and got a kclub very early on in the game when it dropped from Lord of Onzozo. Then later I got another one from the BCNM. From that point on I always had more gil then I needed during the 75 era. In current retail its pretty easy to make gil compared to what it used to be.
I feel like in FFXI I like the grind for money on physical jobs. SAM/DRK/PLD were always super epic for me to get that one piece of gear i wanted/needed. Back when a Hauby was 1.2mil on Ramuh, i earned that the slowest way possible but i felt so much more accomplished when i got it. Mage’s i always hated grinding gil for. Pretty much a pseudo level cap if you didn’t have certain spells in my experience. In summary, I don’t mind farming gil for gear upgrades, spells are a drag though if you’re ONLY a mage and don’t have a farming job leveled.
I remember farming for DAYS back in the day for my Ninja tools and equipment. I had a 60THF that I would use to NM hunt too. But mostly I'd farm Blood, and Crawler Silk.
The grind for gil was great. It showed who cared about their job and who didn't. I play on eden a ton and have mined/farmed for all of my crafts/subs and gear and bought a peacock charm for 8 mil before they added the RMT update.
Are Ochiudo's Kote on Eden still dropping from the NM, or is that server's version up-to-date-enough that only the Rare/Ex version drops from it, and you have to do the BCNM for the sellable ones?
eden got all the sellable version , no rare/ex so you can make some gils out of LL , Emperor and Oztroja Nm's too. Still got A 75thf and a Brd 44. i don't play much , but it's still nice to play from time to time.
Ahhh yes. The need for gil. I remember a long time ago I was just farming random crap. I forgot where exactly but i think it was a outdoor zone outside of windurst with lots of Yagudo. And one of the NM's drops some kinda Summoner/Beastmaster staff. But anywho I was just NPC'ing a all the junk I collected and I noticed one of them was a magic scroll and it would sell to the npc for like 4k. I was like WTF!!! 4k? So then I would just go out there and hunt specifically for those scrolls. I ended up telling LS mate about it and he came out there with me to farm. We were like OH SNAP! We told one other friend of ours and we all kept the info to ourselves and just farmed the area every day. We made a lot of money with that.
It's very simple - I see a new Huntin 4 Games upload, I drop everything I'm doing to watch.
True! Those vids make me feel ALIVEEEEEEE!
100% agree!
Maybe the real gil was the friends we made along the way.
FFXI is special because if you don't want to be a useless party member and leech you need to slow down and farm. Which adds a whole new layer to the leveling experience. It makes it a journey, not just something you just bang out super fast to get to end game. This is even more true with your first job. It's a struggle keeping up with gear at the start. But once you have a job high enough to reliably farm gil, it becomes a lot easier, but that journey never disappears because it repeats with every job you level. Of course until you level them to all cap. But that can take years for most people.
Gil is definitely another great aspect of the best MMO in history, FFXI. Crafting is another example of importance to an MMO. FFXI crafting was fantastic; crafting during specific times, or days or with specific materials, made it very unique... and on top of that, having a chance to get a +1 or +2 was addicting. Favorite game!
The noise you made at 0:16 is a sadly familiar noise every time i check the AH.
I can still hear the sound of rainstorms in my ears from farming in Pashow Marshlands for hours during 75 era. Some things are better left in the past.
Jesus I spent a lot of time there farming leeches on retail when I was new. The bloody bolt crafters loved me. lol
I was dirt poor in XI for seven years. Once I started XIV it was a big drive for me to level all gatherers and crafters to be as self sufficient as possible.
I always loved being a taxi and teleporting people to the Craigs, have a show or movie on just randomly invite people taking their Gil and teleport away
I couldn’t be a taxi.
It was just so slow.
And then you’ll get people who say “one second, I’ll be right there” 🤣
#noPatience
I did that too lol
I always taxi for people when I am in town and doing nothing. It may not be a lot. But it adds up over years. If you are not doing anything anyways, why not help someone out? I have probably made 10+ million just from taxing people for 1-5K a tele over the last 3-4 years. A lot of people get free teles too if I like them or they are repeat customers.
That was one reason I leveled WHM, I made anywhere from 800 to 5000 gil per tele.
Newly subbed to to FF11, thanks for the YEARS of useful content to support my journey.
i always enjoyed picking up those game changing items and really feeling the difference in my character in ffxi back in the day. I havn't played since about 2007, going to dive back in with HXI in a few weeks but to this day the best part about saving up and getting those big items was after joining a party, and doing well for a few pulls then you see " has examined you". yep, i have those items buddy ;) you're welcome.
I remember farming Silk Thread and Yag necklaces for like 2 weeks straight to buy a full set of level 24 Chainmail before letting myself step foot in the Jungle when I was new. I eventually discovered mining Platinum Ore and desynthing Quad Backplates in Palborough was really profitable for a low level at the time and did that for a long time until I got high level enough for greener gil making pastures.
On everything sacred I promise you back in the 75 days my college roommates and myself + my little brother use to ALWAYS run BCNM 20 as blms in hopes of getting "Mannequin Hands" as a drop so we could put it in our bazaar and camp out in front of Jeuno during classes and hope somebody bought them and it was like Christmas day when I'd come home from class and see that my hands sold that gil was well spent on spells............. LONG LIVE JEUNO
we used to do one for the mannequin head! Shooting fish haha, huge money maker
Yeah those were a decent money maker. I usually was doing under observations for PCC and Ni scrolls though.
Garrisons were great at gathering as well and had good drops.
Seemed like we were the only group that was ever doing them.
@@Rem694u2 yeah Ni was a big money maker back then as well, I forget which one dropped Sleepga II but that spell was like the most expensive around the 75 era, I actually got my blm to 75 before getting it which technically would make sense in exp parties but still.
Now that I've finished watching, my three gil-making memories of the 75-era are:
1. Silk thread farming at lower levels
2. Camping Argus in Maze of Shakhrami with two friends for 24 hours - we actually got the tag, the kill, and the Peacock Charm. Sold it for 9,000,000 gil on the AH and split it between the three of us.
3. The Waughroon Shrine Operation Desert Storm BCNM - I remember grouping up with people to do this BCNM and actually getting a venomous claw on my turn (and I'm pretty sure I decided to have a Scorpion Harness crafted with this instead of selling it).
And great video! I share the sentiment of showing up to a party with all the best gear equipped. You could get a reputation for grouping based on how good your gear was!
omg Operation Desert Swarm, that should be a video all to itself
Ah, back when Scorp Harness was the meta. That was quite some time ago. I scrimped and saved 5 mil for mine back in 2006, mostly off selling silent oils.
@@Nightweaver1 Lol, walking around in a Scorpion Harness was like being royalty. Then you had the select few strutting around in a Scorpion Harness +1. I want to say those sold for like 20-30mil+...
Making Gil in Eden:
1. Fire crystals.
2. Level fishing.
hahah, patience is the real key here
I second this. Just got my lu shang's. The grind is real
@@aaronduboise5277 congratulations 👏
Money is something I learned to make while also getting Exp and other things. O.Kote is a great example, the Yagudo and Crabs have good drop rates for decent gil while also camping the NM in question. Another example would be, say, the Sahagin behind the gold beastcoin door can drop spells worth a lot of gil a piece but also some NMs spawn right there. I could go on, it's real useful info!
Oh man... I remember my very first character in FF11... I just leveled, sold EVERYTHING I had to afford upgraded gear... died my first time out... leveled down.... couldn’t use any of my gear haha.
Happened to me as well😭😭😂😂
Lol you remember doing EXP parties and leveling up and then you were like I gotta go. But lets kill a couple more so I can have a buffer, in case I die walking back to town.........
Nothing like a little tarutaru blm leveling to 75 all proud, change gear. Now new and improved ready to anything decided to go to the Gods and fight the damn turtle with a group.... everybody died de-level naked tarutaru in the heavens good times lmao.
Yup that happens!
Heh, one of the key ways I used to make money when I was starting out was buying armor from this one vendor in Windurst, over by the docks with the spell vendors, and then selling them on the AH at a hiked up price. I guess a lot of people didn't know about this particular vendor or what he sold, so they'd buy it from me at an inflated price on the AH. Wasn't the most ethical thing to do I suppose, but it worked well in the beginning, along with selling moat carp.
Lol whatever is clever.
Some of your armor buyers probably never been to Windy... win/win 🤪
Can't knock the hustle. If people are too lazy to do the leg work , make your bank. I made a lot doing this with regional vendors when beastmen controlled the territories I would sell their stuff expensive. lol
I remember back in the day on Odin server (Aht Urhgan was the latest expansion) I was a noob and I was farming Grain Seeds in front of Bastok from killing Walking Saplings and a stack of Grain Seeds (12 pieces) was selling in the AH easily for 18,000 - 22,000 gil! So even as a noob I was able to farm more then 100,000 gil whenever I needed it.
This is actually one of the downsides of an auction house system in my opinion. Kind of breaks the money game.
I remember upgrading from Noble's to Aristocrat's cloak just by doing teleports/farming bird blood. Real pain on 75 times,but effective.
Made my first "fortune" doing teleports and D2s
Always a pleasure to see Ifrit's Cauldron - I was an avid miner there, still know the place like the back of my hand. I enjoy the risk factor there that puts off the vast majority of players, losing time in the form of exp from dying whilst mining in a dangerous zone filled with magic agressive bombs and vampiric bats.
Also, if you need tips on how to make gil on Eden, you don't need to make a whole video like this as a ruse to get people to give tips in comments! We're onto you! ;D Hahaha
Great stuff as always buddy
“What’s everyone’s favorite tip for making Gil, be specific, name names”
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The economic struggle is definitely one of the many things that make the ffxi experience unique and immersive. Great vid!
One piece of gear that I farmed as much as I could with my personal sky ls back in the day was Byakko's Haidate. It never, ever dropped for me. Until yesterday. I saw someone selling the pop items in their bazaar, and I thought why not. Went up to sky, tried to figure out how to get to his island since I hadn't been there for years, and then finally fought him. Annnnnd, drop. I was so happy, even though none of my jobs are that low to use it. But mission accomplished.
Nice. Better late than never
Man I remember back when I played XI in 2004, a repeatable quest on an airship out of Jeuno that was something like 500g every 15 minutes. I just did that until I had enough for the full Iron Musketeer's Cuirass Set and then just stopped playing.
That’s a hell of an accurate memory you have... you shouldn’t have quit 🤪
@@fredsanford1437 When you spend a certain amount of your life doing the same thing every 15 minutes it kinda sticks with you.
Why would you do that when you could kill a level 20 something leech for bird blood and get more gil in a single kill because they usually drop 1-3.
Not gonna lie its an exceptionally well devised system, so agitating but it breaths a different "feel" of what a game even is
yea, won't find an MMO like this one.
There are 2 times in XIV you have to buy gear
1. on a tank you're leveling when you're 55, 65, 75, and soon to be 85. your free poetics gear stops being effective to tank at that point.
2. raiding on savage the same week the savage raid comes out. crafted gear brings you to the new minimum item level to clear that savage raid.
I agree to an extent about the gil grind, but it really just depends on the game. In XI because of how it is I'm expecting to need money for everything if I don't want a massive time sink. The MMO landscape has just changed over the years and losing lateral gear progression in favor of linear item levels has a lot to do with it. You can't get an overpowered level 35 pair of gloves that will last you till cap because they have to keep scaling the gear up constantly. You could get level 35 gloves that are item level 50, but that still has an objective lifespan on the gear.
Man idk. MMOs just aren't designed to suck up all your free time any more and I sort of miss it but I also don't miss it at all. It's such a weird feeling.
You are a gem to Vana'Diel
the more people willing to try it, the better!
11 always seemed to have a good separation of time for me and those kinds of good items so I always love grinding for the gil
I remember farming elementals in Delks tower for my twin sniper rings.
Oh you sold crystals to buy them? I camped stroper chyme for archer's ring and had them crafted.
Many current mmo throw money at you.
BDO gives you millions of silver for logging in lol.
The real meat is buying stuff from their cash shop. many mmo moved from virtual currency to cash shops or gambling.
Feels kind of weird saying this but I appreciated that gil was a challenge to get. I think modern mmos have gotten too endgame-centric. In XI, the leveling up process was not only leveling the job but also (as you indicated) getting the gear, leveling crafting, being able to buy something that made your character better. Yes getting the drop from an nm kill was great, but equally satisfying was finally being able to buy a piece of gear you've been trying to get. I told a friend of mine that what I miss in modern mmos is the wonder of the game, the feeling of accomplishment when you you reach a personal goal, and that the process of leveling is just as important as what you can do once you've capped the leveling process. Needless to say I'm talking about the 75 era. I have played recent retail XI and it's fun, but it's a different game, it's more like other mmos and I think that's a shame. I'm a big fan of horizontal progression and very few (if any) modern mmos embrace that concept.
right!? Loved it!
Very true. But I do wonder, when some items a mob drops are worth 15g, or a quest gives you a reward of 1k gil (and it cost you 2k to travel there), maybe a cap on the top costs in the game. Is something really worth 9 million? Lu Shangs is worth 2 million. But something that you camp for, and fight, and get a drop, you could do that in 2 rl days? Lu Shangs takes at least a month, so the price is understandable. A 2 day camp for a drop from a mob, should not cost more. I would like to see a cap of 3 million. Unless quests and some other items start paying more.
@@Whistler-jx7pk You can run across caps on some of the private servers, but I think most companies that produce games let the market decide. Yeah you get some outrageously expensive items (I'm looking at you Kraken Club), but equally you can have something that's incredibly rare, but not very desirable. That will be relatively cheap and a hard sell. I guess what I'm saying is that it's very hard for a company to try and keep a market flatten when it's the players who are setting the prices.
@@Whistler-jx7pk
Have you ever camped LoO for weeks only to get one claim and no drop?
Some items are worth every penny 😊
Value is in the eye of the beholder
I say this all the time and response I get is that they have busier lives now but that was the beauty of it. You just get to your goals a little slower, the game doesn’t make it easier for everyone and miles stones become more significant.
It's like listening to myself talking about the game.
This was one of the things I loved the most about XI, once you'v made enough progress & want to switch it up you can always go out and make Gil, even a stack of Wild Onions are 30k Pheonix atm !! (I thought Ide make Saltenas and sell the extra mats / food etc!) Really enjoying your content am a Returnee after 7 Years !!! Wish I hadnt left so long But fully lovin it & thanks for your updates/thoughts really insightful with a balance of entertainment !!!
glad you've been enjoyin it again!
I first became "rich" in game camping Goobue's for tree cuttings/moss. I remember goin drk/thf and outclaiming the RMT players. I did that for a month straight, and came out with millions! My friends then taught me how to "plant" them and turn them into tree saplings, which made even more $.. Good times!
You got the right idea. It takes some work to make gil in this game. I've been playing since 2007 and have farmed for all my crafts cuz it's cheaper, which means higher profit on the AH.
1 million for a piece of gear, pfffft, I've paid 30 to 50 million on single pieces and had to farm my ass off to get those items. I will admit to overnight fish hitting with multiple mules.... Until an update screwed my boy 🤬😞
HA! I had 7 chars for planting for elemental ores. That was a pain in the ass.
Its been awhile since I played, this was in 75 days. I lvl'd alchemy to make crimson (somthing, lol I forgot) but when I actually made a +1, they sold for millions at a time, was a great money maker. Farming the ingredients was real time consuming though.
Probably Crimson Cuisses for W-legs.
@@Rem694u2 Yep, that was it!
On the one hand I miss the "good old days", but on the other hand, I really appreciate how much more chill things became, and I don't have to spend a ton of playtime on making money
FFxi really makes you appreciate gear. i remember when i got my white mage af, i never took that off ! the same with my now obtained carbuncle hat. it is my PRECIOUS!
I'm sitting on like 500+ million in liquid gil but I have nothing to spend it on because I already leveled every class to max and geared them all. The only thing I could spend it on is upgrading some of my pieces to +1 but that requires getting the abjurations again which is tough because of the long ass waiting list and it feels bad taking a second abjuration when people haven't even got their first yet.
Sell the Gil and donate the money, or donate to a player in-game 😊
@@fredsanford1437 I cannot sell the gil, that would get me in trouble or banned. I do however give stuff away regularly to new players in need. But never to people who ask for it. For example if I party with new people in the dunes, or qufim or any low level area I will always hand out the best possible foods to everyone or hook them up with +1 weapons or armors because it helps me too by speeding the party up and making it more efficient. Then they can use or sell the items themselves when they outgrow them for a little extra money to fund their future endeavors. I feel like giving expensive stuff away for free to people hurts their experience though. It robs them of the satisfaction of earning something themselves. I know I would never take things for free I didn't earn. Nothing beats that feeling of farming your ass off for weeks to earn your first SH+1 or Hauby+1. You proudly show it off because you earned it with a lot of hard work. If someone just handed me one I wouldn't care about it nearly as much. At least that is how I feel about it.
@@Rem694u2
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Strong agree with “robbing of satisfaction” 😊
Try flesheaters at night in the desert. They drop iron ore like 90% of the time. Farm the fire elementals while you're out there. Kill the spiders for webs in that same zone. Knowledge of the zones will help you a lot.
I used to /dig in the desert while LFG with my lol SAM
I spent half my life farming beechips, silk, and onions....
@@mmq9886 i tried that as well. When i played retail in the hayday of the game it was overly contested. This game pushed a lot of peoples buttons lol
I kinda miss the grind for gil. It's still there...but XIV has an astronomical emphasis on item level compared to old-school XI, where you could wear lvl 7 boots into high level because there was no item level. It was more about min/maxing your stats yourself rather than getting the best ilevel gear available. (Yeah, you got some stinkers when partying-but it really dumbed down the gear avenue.)
Gil wise, I was a hoarder and made sure to lot on anything to potentially sell over time. There were a few NPC vendors I would buy from and resell on AH. Made a few pieces of furniture to sell, did some beastmen circle fights, etc. Towards the end of my time I just grew chocobo feed in my mog house and npc'd it for an easy 30k-70k every 4 or so days
can you make a video series explaining in depth why certain items are good? Example I always hear leaping lizzy name and I see 3 agi and 3 DeX but I dont get what's so special about that. I've never played ff11 but I've played mmorpgs for 20 years.
Platinum Ruled Classic Everquest. Gear didnt have level restrictions and outside of raid gear was fully tradable (this changed later and level limitations were added), even gear from their HNM equivalent rare spawns. So you would tend to farm alot of money to buy gear, spells consumables, donating for teleports (a good way to make plat as well), etc.
I agree 100% with you on this. The feeling of doing your best to help and/or compete because of the extra stats felt completely worthwhile. I was a major NM hunter back when I played in the 75 era. Once I hit level 40 on PLD and started needing more gil, I decided to level THF to fix that. Never looked back and became the first NA TH4 on my server. It was a nice feeling to be sought out like a mercenary for treasure hunter, but I spent most of my time on my own hunts lol.
Rabao + Halcyon rod + sinking minnow = Rusty caps. AH for about 2k each, a nice alternative to moat carps.
Smith them into padded caps? I forget the name, they would vendor for $$
I did most of my farming in Dangruf Wadi during the 75 era. The worms dropped sulfur, zinc, copper, and flint. I could synth brass ingots and glass fibers or sell them all as is. The goblins there dropped decent amounts of gil, items, and magic scrolls that NPC for decent gil or on the AH if you were patient. The Geyser Lizard NM was usually up and the item it dropped NPCed for 4k gil.
There were probably better farming spots but I liked this one because I never had any competition.
I went with the mentality of "every penny counts" when playing this back in the day. I'd not ignore enemies that dropped items that could NPC for a little gil (100+) or sell on the AH for 1K+. I valued even getting the Orcish Axe from Ronfaure orcs while farming for fire crystals and whatever else. It was all about getting that Brigandine+1 armor, Emperor Hairpin, etc while leveling. At 75, same mentality, but bigger goals. Sha'ir Manteel was my proudest equip to farm for. Was any of it needed? Not even close. It certainly made me more attractive to invite for groups though and gave me a point of pride.
Sadly, I still have that same "every penny counts" mentality with modern FFXI and uhh... it's a severe hindrance that I really need to break one day.
Watching your videos about FFXI always gets me really pumped up to play it! But.. when those free log in campaigns come around for retail.. by about the 3rd day in I start questioning why I'm playing lol. The grind eats at my soul, I dunno if I'll ever be able to play on a 75 era server and relive that intense grind again. Maybe someday, but we'll see.
If you play one, just do it casually. Huntin has been on Eden for a long ass time and he just does it for fun here and there and his highest in still only like 53 RDM. You don't have to kill yourself grinding the game out doing HNMs if you just don't have the time. Take it nice and slow and enjoy the journey. Don't feel obligated to play. Especially private servers. They are free so theres no reason to force yourself to play.
Yea, I cannot do that either, it was painful to make money.
I lasted about 2 weeks on Eden before I said screw that insane grind and found a level 99 server to get my nostalgic fix. Sometimes I wonder how I managed to put myself through all that, while at the same time I look back so fondly on the whole experience. Right time right place I guess because I could never do that today.
@@hiflyer000 You are spoiled by modern games holding your hand.
@@Rem694u2 Or just most of us are adults now and don't have the time for it, and would rather spend our time more productively or doing something else lol
Can I just take a moment to say--your intro is really smooth and professional looking!
Oh man gil was a separate grind, and what worked changed with the times. Here are some of the hustles I ran:
- Moat Carp fishing in Rabao. There was a time when the tiny zone's oasis was filled with fishers, much more than the zone could handle. Stacks were going from anywhere from 10k - 20k on auction in their peak.
- Mining. Usually a money maker but there were times where your returns were mediocre or your pickaxes would break quickly. I remember some lucky runs bringing back anywhere from 60-120k, with some terrible runs bringing back as little as 1-2k.
- BCNM 30 runs. There was good money to be had if it was your Orb but you could always charge others to help with their attempts.
- Teleport Taxi. Probably the easiest way to make money quick but having everyone 'ready to go' was always a challenge. Not something you can do for hours without going crazy, especially with others who were offering the same service.
- Powerleveling / whmless low level parties. Who needs a healer inside the party when you could have a perfectly viable healer outside of the party? Things tend to die quicker when the whm is swapped out with another damage dealer. I'd ask people to pay 10k per person or what they could comfortably afford. Most Advanced jobs would pay the full 10k while other's would pay 500g (I'd believe them lol)
I was just thinking about this the other day. I love how this game has a full functioning economy and forces you to contribute in some way. And there are so many different ways you could do it. Every item in the game that drops is used for something, there are no trash items like in other games that are meant only to be vendored.
Having awesome gear means nothing if it is just thrown at you left and right In FFXI if you are wearing some kind of high ticket item like Emp Pin or Lizzy Boots, folks will know you worked your butt off for it either by camping the actual NM or grinding your way to being able to buy them. It makes them that much more special and impactful. Getting that "Whoa nice gear" /tell actually has some heft to it.
The Gil grind was the best part! Had a 3 person group that owned a NM pop!
The consumables drove the FF11 economy though, and that’s missing from other MMOs, Hunter ammo, Food, MP juices, ninja tools. The need for those consumables is what made things like fishing or farming cockatrice for their drops worth while!
awesome! I didn't do group NM hunts very awesome, what were you guys after?
@@Huntin4GamesChannel There were a few in Lufaise Meadows that the bots didn't camp so we could rotate through them. Padfoot and his Astal Ring and Megalobugard and his Tusk were what made it worth while! I never made it to level 75 after years of playing but I had several hundred million gil lol.
dude this is awesome.. guy is living my life back in 2004-2010.
One of the things I remember the most from FFXI is how every day before school my friend and I would wake up really early, like 4AM, just running through Giddeus for beehive chips. I never felt like I had enough money and it always made me feel like I had something I needed to do. Time was money was time for sure.
/me examines you. When you get a party invite and people look at what kind of gear you have on. It's always nice to have that HQ gear equipped. I would like to add, as a THF main.. what you did that week, was pretty much what I did the majority of the time of playing FFXI. I enjoy the grinding for gil, the farming NMS and finding new ways to make gil to get that HQ/rare equip you always wanted. I think the game would be boring if every casual player would be able to get the same stuff you work hard for. I was also moderately heavy into crafting. I was super enticed in how popular the Scorpion Harness (SH) was back in the day, I took bonecraft to 100, and leather to 60 so I could make my own SH+1 with my name on it. Also as a THF.. you usually had a lot of time on your hands while looking for party lol
When I went back to retail I still camped my O kote and after one million spawns I finally got the gloves. I know they don’t mean anything anymore but the feeling I get from finally getting those gloves and putting them on again was worth the hours of time spent.
Another thing about EDEN is that they had a crash almost a year ago and everyone lost their gil. Til this day i still didn't get my new starts 60k gil back. They NEVER returned it.
Oomph
you can see if they can reset your char and get your money back.
That sucks, that never happened to me. But I feel your pain.
@@Bewefau they never responded, i've been on the discord and on the forums. All that gil i was farming up at the time to lvl sub jobs and travel costs.
when they wiped that i quit for quite a long time.
meriphataud mountains OP is the best farm spot for a while. Flies for gausebit grass, list in singles on the auction house. If you're level 20ish you can solo xp there too. 30ish you can do buburimu peninsula Beach, leeches, sell to npc. Fastest money in those levels I believe.
On the server I used to play on, myself and a friend cornered the dhamel hide market, we bought the stacks out of the AH and single sold each single for 5k each. Had 300k in a week
I always farmed Spook in Ronfaure’s Tomb for my gil in FFXI. Made several hundred thousand gil that way in a single sitting. Afforded me my Scorpion Harness for DRG, SMN gear, and PLD gear. :D
That was a good one if the market wasnt over saturated and you didnt have any competition. Easy camp and you can just AFK during the day time. lol
Woo Darksteel ore! I'd be happy to see that in my chat log any day.
I should get back into eden
My money ventures throughout the ages:
1) Insect paste bazaar in WindWoods
2) Low-level spell smuggling from Jueno to starter cities (AHs were separate)
3) Copper Ingot AH sales from 3g Copper Ore
4) Mithkabob & Yag Drink sales
5) Abyssea cruor armor sales on AH
6 (Current)) Red Curry Buns, hoarding all the Dragon Meat on Sylph as it gets posted on AH.
Socom in the intro brought back so many memories.
I'm grinding my weapons and gaming the system on Asura with Trusts. Cherukiki casts Regen, Haste, Protect, Shell, and Paralyze, and doesn't attack. Moogle follows Cherukiki around, giving an auto-refresh. So Cherukiki basically has an infinite MP pool. Then I use auto-run to follow the Balayangs in Fei Yin around while I hit them with the weakest weapon I can get in a given type. AFK the whole time. My bazaar message currently says "Don't mind me, I've just got an axe to grind with these bats"
Begging someone to teach me how to fish so I could farm moat carp to afford level 10 warrior armor is my most special MMO memory.
Used to farm twincoons from Habetrot. Though it was a pain in the ass to camp against Deathknight cause he was also farming the gil to pay back his LS so he could finish his relic.
I am mixed here. As a Thief, I had some expensive gear to get (back in the day, Scorpion Harness and Blau Dolche were expensive as hell, along with the usual stuff like Sniper's Rings, Emperor's Hairpin and Leaping Boots.)
But, I put in the work, and got them all. Once 99 cap came around, and all of that was not needed, I started losing interest. I took a lot of pride in my THF, I will always feel like I was the best on my server (I could outparse Black Belt MNK's on THF while also pulling) but once the economy changed, it did not feel the same.
But, the lack of that grind was also a good thing, since FFXI was the grindiest of grinds. Making it more accessible was a good thing, and even though I put in the work for all of the good gear, doing away with the main gil grind allowed me to get my Mandau.
I totally see the point that the gil grind was an important part of this game. I also kinda think it was a bit too much of a grind.
That's kind of what killed it for me too. I spent years farming and spend LS points to get the good stuff, soloing what I could and everytime a new level cap would come out, it would obsolesce something that I had spent massive amounts of time on and it would grate on me to no end.
Just bought my Hauberk today, I feel you, 700k just gone, my pockets hurt.
I mainly BST in the early days of FFxi, and my favorite thing to do was trying to find interesting ways(for myself) to make Gil.
Some of my favorites were:
1) Farming Rattling Egg in Ifrit's Cauldron to spawn Tarasque. Could get an egg every 1-3 hours, and earn 400,000 - 900,000 gil. Was super chill, and easy to do as a BST, and no one ever went to that location, so it was basically always free.
2) Farming Gem of the West in Sky, by killing Despot. Wasn't the easiest, since you risked having it stolen during a bird switch if someone walked by or failing charm a couple times, but was always fun to do, and earned you some extra exp. I don't remember how much i earned from a kill, but the additional doll shards, and mercury definitely added up. Also it was just a thrill to kill as a BST.
3) Farming hakutaku eyes, individually, or as a cluster. I recall not having a lot of competition for these on my server, and you could farm up a bunch of eyes fairly easy, since you didn't have to worry about powerful magic killing you. The only problem was trying to get behind various doors in Sea Serpent Grotto.
Grinding for gil was definitely one of my favorite things to do in the game. It always brought my to new and interesting locations, and forced my to really learn how to navigate the world, and explore locations most people steered cleared of.
Me and a few BST friends of mine used to merc Hakutaku for people as an easy way to make gil. We'd either do the fight if you had a cluster or we'd provide one and do the fight for extra money.
@@hiflyer000 Being a BST was the best for earning money
And definitely doing Hakutaku was one of the best. Having a group of decent BSTs to kill the NM was so fun. Sure it was slower then a group, but gathering up a full raid to kill Hakutaku was time consuming, and paying a group of BSTs to kill it for you was a good option if you had the money to pay for it.
There were so many services you could do for people if you had a group of BSTs XD(sadly my server only seemed to have like..... 10 total at 75 x.x)
I would spend weeks grinding away in Rollenberry Fields farming crawler silks...thf boomerang w/ rabbits foot and four leaf clover. Who knows if they helped but it’s how I made cash. That and dysynthing yag necklaces.
I think the biggest issue was the time spawn of 72 hours. leaping lizzy 5 min's to 8 hour's I seen it take 16 hours to spawn once. Valkum Emp 8 hours unless you new the force spawn trick with those 2.
So on Eden, are the drops from Lizzy and the O. Kotes Yag NM rare/ex or are they still sellable? IIRC that change was made during the 75 era. One thing I love about the O. Kotes is they are one of the most obvious visual indicators of "I have good gear". They're big and bright red and it's a thing you look for in any SAM or MNK from 34 until almost max level. Plus they look pretty sick with the jiujitsu gi.
I see you finally added something to that blank TV screen in the intro that we've been staring at all this time =P
Finally turned on that tv
I started leveling up WW to support my bard. The grind is pricey but selling light staves and shihei? Helps.
The beginning was like Hank Hill checking the AH
How do you know about my ah checking habits? Also buy my bolts. I'm leveling woodcraft and broke as hell
Haven't played XI since 2013, but I still remember my "secret" money maker: Mythril Picks. On my server, I could often buy/craft the materials to make them for ~3-4000g, and the Picks sold to NPCs for ~7000g each. All I was ever limited by was how much AH/Bazaars had in stock each day.
this defiantly isn't a secret on eden, it's quite the controversial topic on classic servers.
NPCing items in general or Mythril Picks specifically? I'm sure after nearly 8 years, someone else was bound to figure that one out eventually. Most all of XI's gil exploits when I played were about NPCing things for profit.
@@Mirvana Mythril picks specifically. there was a player who went around to all private servers and all he did all day was craft mythril picks and NPC them breaking the economy in the process, he was kinda infamous.
@@Jambara Lmao, well it wasn't me I promise lol. I didn't find it out until well after our economy was already destroyed by chocoblinkers, so I doubt I had much economic impact on Sylph lol.
I probably sold 40-50 stacks of fire crystals to the vendor in my early 1-10 days. I missed out on a fortune!
🤣 I used to drop beastman seals because I didn’t know what they were for!
Oops 😬
since i started FF11 again, your channel has become one of my fav channels. Im having a hard time making gil..all ive been doing is selling stacks of fire crystals or earth crystals on AH. Any tips or thoughts on showing us good places or ways to make gil? Thank you soo much for this channel and for helping me rekindle my love of FF11 (just finished Lb1 yesterday!..super excited)
I absolutely fell in love with crafting and fishing.
The farming bees part hit me hard.
Farming NMs is always going to be the funnest way to get gil. You can either get a rare item you want or get that big gil item and make the money.
I enjoyed it. The grind was part of what made FFXI great for me. You wanted HNM drops for crafting or awesome gear you had to work for it. Get the spawn time, log in and camp your mark, call your LS to get ready for pop and hope you were fast enough to pull. Also man if you didn't want to buy the O Kotes you could've hunted Mee Deggi the Punisher for the Rare/EX version and hoped you got lucky or asked a Friend/Merc TH3/4 THF to help you.
Grinding and working towards something makes it much more rewarding. Gil becomes easier at higher levels in endgame and the LS can split the profits. Mining parties can be profitable. I've grinded in most zones to test and 60,000 Gil per hour is the benchmark. Anything higher is great for straight grind and selling to NPCs or AH. The rest comes from endgame, mining/HELM, etc. Combine it all together and it will add up. Peacock charm is my go-to neck piece on any server and the rest is a bonus. Focus on good gear for 1 job and have fun along the way! Merit parties endgame will make your character strong for replay value over gear as well :)
Heya Huntin, Always enjoy your videos and glad to see you're still on Eden. As always if you ever need anything feel free to ask.
Sidenote to anyone who reads this comment, if you play on Eden or may play it in the near future, first off welcome, second I highly recommend reading the rules before play!
Just started two days ago. Thank you for the welcome!
My main money making activity, from level 50-75 probably, was hunting tigers in Batalia Downs to turn in the fangs in Sand'Oria. When elemental staves were new I farmed for MONTHS to afford ice and dark... then the prices crashed. I was broken.
my only question is what graphic mods are you using, your game and UI looks so sharp and crisp
I must say, that is exactly the way i feel. Gil, doesn't matter where you earn it, as long as you are having fun and think that is meaningful for something on the foreseeable future of your character, like upgrading basic stuff, then shift to farm items to sell and at the same time progressing on the mastery system, testing new classes. It all goes around gil, its very rewarding when you put effort even knowing you could lack the coin for it sometime and then you set a goal to earn it back and everything falls back into place, its fun to have a variety of things to choose and do that makes the game even more pleasant, because the endgame could be the old get better and fight bigger mobs or could be im gonna stroll around to test mobs for drops, try a lifeskill and not just farm for better gear because its required, its more about the experience then it is the mobs and quests, everyday is a different goal and quest set by you. FFXI is a unique game on that part. Love the game and your content is nostalgic! Much praise @huntin4games
I'm the same way I refused to level Sam without Okote/Fuma and I basically just became the specter of Castle O. in my years of playing 11 I have gotten myself 3 different sets (Okote on offical, Ochimusha when they changed to rare/ex and okote on Nasomi) but I also got multiple friends and family members their okote and fuma too as well as random ls members. Now that I'm on Eden I gotta do it all over again and I cant wait.
I had billions of gil. Sure farmed some high end items, but in my day, i enjoyed the thrill of moving scarce items from one server to another.
At times like delve, players on Ashura would have tons of clear items for say 40 to 60m, but servers like rag had none. So i wpuld buy and sell for say 120m.
Finding items and buyers was fun. All because i have mules server hop. Made many friends that way.
I found a super niche gil farming method back in the day around 2006, I would farm the Hermit Rings from the worms in Dangruf Wadi, at the time they were worth 50k EACH, because the synthesis craft for it became eremites ring and the eremite's ring +1 was worth 1 million gil at the time. This was a level 20? ring where the +1 version gave 3 int total instead of 2.
You could do the same type of thing with the Ascetic's ring off carrion worms in King Ranperre's tomb. I remember farming Dodge Earrings off Ooze in Beadeaux. Slower drops, but larger rewards.
I love XIV but I really do miss the gearing process in older games. It's a much more immersive experience.
Davoi is a good npc farm. The guns from firebelchers are worth 10k and every piece of armor from orcs are 1.5k. plus spell scrolls and gold masks from troopers.
The hting that was frustrating was every time there was a decent way to sell items to NPCs for some gil, they would patch it out. I do think that money is more valuable as a resource in FFXI than other MMOs and that can be a good thing
Beastman blood in Pashow Marshlands you know that area?
Did you ever make a setup video on how to get private server to work?
I played as a Drk back in 2002-2006? I think. Anyway, I still remember my gil grind saving for my haubergeon, a must for any Drk. It was like 2 mil when I got it before a massive inflation spike due to rmt's, then when I hit 69 I sold it for 8 mil to buy a hauberk for like 6 mil or so. Optical Hat was a must have as well. I had to buy all the eyes and pay an Alchemist(I think) to make the eye cluster. I farmed up so much silk thread and tree saplings to gradually buy all the mats, and got the hat with a random group once I had my cluster. The eyes seemed plentiful, as I've noticed them in many bazaars, so for me it was probably easier to buy the eyes as I did than hunt the nm's for each. I don't remember how much it cost. I just remember so much of my play time was consumed with farming and becoming very familiar with the surrounding environments and finding random nm spawns but not getting any drops or being too low level to attempt solo.
I got super lucky and got a kclub very early on in the game when it dropped from Lord of Onzozo. Then later I got another one from the BCNM. From that point on I always had more gil then I needed during the 75 era. In current retail its pretty easy to make gil compared to what it used to be.
I feel like in FFXI I like the grind for money on physical jobs. SAM/DRK/PLD were always super epic for me to get that one piece of gear i wanted/needed. Back when a Hauby was 1.2mil on Ramuh, i earned that the slowest way possible but i felt so much more accomplished when i got it. Mage’s i always hated grinding gil for. Pretty much a pseudo level cap if you didn’t have certain spells in my experience. In summary, I don’t mind farming gil for gear upgrades, spells are a drag though if you’re ONLY a mage and don’t have a farming job leveled.
I remember farming for DAYS back in the day for my Ninja tools and equipment. I had a 60THF that I would use to NM hunt too. But mostly I'd farm Blood, and Crawler Silk.
The grind for gil was great. It showed who cared about their job and who didn't.
I play on eden a ton and have mined/farmed for all of my crafts/subs and gear and bought a peacock charm for 8 mil before they added the RMT update.
Fishing ryugu titan for mercurial sword and the chance at encounter scroll fight for mercurial dagger was my pass time for money.
The good ole days of farming silk or Teleport Taxi...
Are Ochiudo's Kote on Eden still dropping from the NM, or is that server's version up-to-date-enough that only the Rare/Ex version drops from it, and you have to do the BCNM for the sellable ones?
eden got all the sellable version , no rare/ex so you can make some gils out of LL , Emperor and Oztroja Nm's too.
Still got A 75thf and a Brd 44. i don't play much , but it's still nice to play from time to time.
Ahhh yes. The need for gil. I remember a long time ago I was just farming random crap. I forgot where exactly but i think it was a outdoor zone outside of windurst with lots of Yagudo. And one of the NM's drops some kinda Summoner/Beastmaster staff. But anywho I was just NPC'ing a all the junk I collected and I noticed one of them was a magic scroll and it would sell to the npc for like 4k. I was like WTF!!! 4k? So then I would just go out there and hunt specifically for those scrolls. I ended up telling LS mate about it and he came out there with me to farm. We were like OH SNAP! We told one other friend of ours and we all kept the info to ourselves and just farmed the area every day. We made a lot of money with that.