On Einstein And Pantheism

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
  • Caller quotes Einstein denigrating atheists and goes on to claim pantheism is the most plausible option.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 35

  • @blueredingreen
    @blueredingreen 15 днів тому +2

    I've heard probably a dozen calls from Patrick, most of which involves him calling in largely to say that he's an agnostic, not an atheist, and how he thinks it's not reasonable to be an atheist.

    • @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong
      @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong 15 днів тому

      Firstly the host is lying about what atheism is . Atheism is not a belief system if it was then atheism isn't the default position therefore atheism has a burden of proof.
      Atheism is a disbelief or lack of in God or gods which means it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God.

  • @josephoswald2292
    @josephoswald2292 15 днів тому

    They should show a graph or picture of the Dawkins scale. It has 7 levels of believe/not believe.
    Pretty interesting 🤔

  • @jeddafakee91
    @jeddafakee91 16 днів тому

    He's right about sam harris types

  • @user-pw6ei2mn7x
    @user-pw6ei2mn7x 16 днів тому

    He was hard to follow, I didn’t hear Sam Harris mentioned. 🍀🍀🍀

  • @Ghalaghor_McAllistor
    @Ghalaghor_McAllistor 16 днів тому

    Einstein believed in Spinoza's god which is the universe and nature itself.

    • @Leith_Crowther
      @Leith_Crowther 16 днів тому +3

      And he also didn’t have a rational or empirical reason to call it a god.

    • @Ghalaghor_McAllistor
      @Ghalaghor_McAllistor 16 днів тому

      @@Leith_Crowther Exactly

    • @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong
      @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong 15 днів тому

      Anybody who believes the origins of life is a result of a creator believes in God. Call God the Creator call God Jehovah call God Allah, call God whatever the native Americans and Australian aboriginals called the creator of the origins of life it's all God.. we don't all agree on all the same nature of God all the same religious aspects but that doesn't make a different God. If you believe in the creator of the origins of life you believe in God this has been proven to be an instinctive thought and or a logical conclusion
      Native Americans Australian aboriginals while they believe in God at one time they also believed in gods. That would be a superhuman being that didn't create the origins of life.

    • @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong
      @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong 15 днів тому

      ​@@Leith_Crowtherif you believe the origins of life is a result of creation you believe in God. Evidence shows us that believing in God is an instinctive thought and or illogical conclusion.
      There's plenty of things that people believe is true without having empirical evidence. Some people believe they were born in the wrong body some people believe they have ancestors who were sea creatures.. some people believe in the supernatural like the idea of the origins of Life came into existence without creation without God. I don't know how somebody can get through a normal life without being able to believe something is true without having empirical evidence.

    • @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong
      @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong 15 днів тому

      ​@@Leith_CrowtherI bet you don't even believe the origins of Life came into existence without creation without God and if I'm wrong I bet you're not going to be able to logically reason it and or give any empirical evidence.

  • @funknelson87
    @funknelson87 16 днів тому

    Yikes. I’d really hate to have to interact with this guy in everyday life. He’s immune to logic.

    • @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong
      @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong 15 днів тому

      The host of the show doesn't even know what atheism is lol. Atheism is a disbelief or lack of in God or gods which means it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God and gods. He's describing it as a belief system .so if it's a belief system than atheism has the burden of proof.
      Agnostic atheist is completely incoherent atheism is a disbelief and agnosticism is specifically defined as not being a disbelief.

    • @funknelson87
      @funknelson87 15 днів тому

      @@JoeyLovesAshleyWrong yeah I don’t describe myself as an agnostic atheist because it feels like I’m saying “I don’t know that I don’t believe in a god”. I know what people mean when they say it, but I tend to just say I’m an atheist.

    • @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong
      @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong 15 днів тому

      @@funknelson87 do you agree with the host of the show who describes atheism as a belief system? If that was true then atheism would have a burden of proof.
      Atheism isn't a belief system as he claims it's not a belief that God doesn't exist it's a disbelief it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God. It's also a lack of belief but lack of belief or no belief, non belief it's all the same thing it means unwilling to accept. And disbelief is unwilling or unable to accept.

    • @funknelson87
      @funknelson87 15 днів тому

      @@JoeyLovesAshleyWrong which host was it? I’d have to watch again because I didn’t catch that the first time, but I don’t consider atheism a worldview. A persons worldview likely determines whether or not they’re an atheist, but the position itself isn’t a worldview.

    • @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong
      @JoeyLovesAshleyWrong 15 днів тому

      @@funknelson87 it's the host without the glasses.
      I'm not sure what you mean by atheism not being a worldview, can you clarify.
      Approximately 90% of the world's atheists come from atheistic governments which are all Communists without exception more than half of them come from China. Outside of Communism the next largest representation for atheism is the LGBT community. And this is evidence to why atheism isn't evidence-based it's an unwillingness or inability to accept.
      Because if atheism was evidence-based you wouldn't be able to distinguish between the representation for atheism between the LGBT community communism, and the rest of the world. So it's more than the defined meaning more importantly this physical evidence showing it.
      I also noticed something else. Atheists to off and claims at atheism is about lack of evidence and not a bias. Atheist will often say things on the threads like God doesn't exist God's a fairytale. So I will ask atheists if they believe the origins of Life came into existence without creation without God and if they do to provide evidence to why they believe that. 99.5% of them will not say they don't believe the origins of Life came into existence without God.. they won't say those words even though they don't believe the origins of Life came into existence without God. And they didn't have a bias they wouldn't have a problem saying that. If they don't believe the origins of Life came into existence without creation without God they should have no problem saying that unless they have a bias.