Ofcourse he did. He was a psychopath and sadist. Kilmer deperately wanted to work with him and Kubrik kept silence to torture him. When he heard that Kilmer snaped about it, he felt satisfied.
@@Bernacide there are plenty of psychopaths that lack any merit; what you are witnessing is jealousy manifest looking for an excuse to disparage it's betters. Also what he said is clearly emotionally driven idiocy.
“Touchofdumb” has been to lunch with every modern actor/actress, so he obviously knows what he’s talking about. The username has NO reflection of the individual behind the curtain. None!
Also, imagine Val Kilmer having sent him thirty tapes with audition material on spec? Poor thing. And poor Kubrick sitting there with EWS going "I really like this guy! Maybe I'll come up with something for him for my next project?" Imagine how many people sent him stuff? Imagine what kinds of people? Because no one in the business would say no to the chance of working with Kubrick.
@@stanleyandus Yes, of course, but he would've filtered through the important stuff, and Kubrick was obviously aware of the Kilmer situation. I just find it amusing what kind of level of professionality we're talking about here. Like there's no upper limit to the fan girling here if even names like Val Kilmer could shout himself blue in the face without getting any response from Kubrick. There's a similar situation to Ingmar Bergman and all the people who made a pilgrimage to the island of Fårö for a chance to meet the master. But Bergman could be quite nasty and just say no to people out of jealousy and out of spite, and some people were quite hurt about that. Like Lars von Trier who fan girled in vain until he reckoned he had been rejected and started shit talking Bergman instead. But I have a hard time seeing Kubrick doing anything out of spite? I just don't think he had the time to give to all his fans? His mind worked so fast he couldn't even keep up with himself. So I can imagine him talking about Kilmer and all sorts of people with warmth despite the fact he hadn't time for them?
@@somethingaboutthemovies5116 Yes, I know that story, and it's a very sweet story. I actually cried when I saw Ang Lee telling that story, because it's such an important part of him becoming a filmmaker in the first place. My point is that Bergman could be quite cruel and arbitrary in the way he "let people in" or slammed the door in front of them. There are countless of stories of Swedish actors that didn't become a part of Bergmans company of actors because of a one time sleigh decades ago. And Bergman could hold a grudge for decades. And I'm talking great actors on a Bergman level of performance, so it's a loss they never got the chance to work for him.
I've always found that the movie just drags forever, shining is more watchable but still too long. tom cruise is so boring his acting is cardboard the game with michael douglas is a way better illuminate thriller.
@@garyt3hsna1l82the scene in the Rothschild mansion is sublime. I thought it was a great look into jealousy and betrayal. Nicole Kidman hurts cruise with the story of her lusting after someone else. He then goes on a dangerous journey , is it for revenge or lack of respect in the relationship?
I like Kilmer. Too bad he was known for being kind of an a-hole on set. He did a movie in the early 2000s with RDJ that was really good (forget the name).
Ah yeah 'The Saint' in which Simon Templar (Val) was able to take on many amazing disguises. One of his best is.. as Ivan Tratiak (Rade) There's this scene where they are confronted.
Thank you @@stanleyandus for setting up this channel. It's wonderful to now hear from people who knew and worked with Kubrick. Their stories are putting an end to the myths about him. He's coming into focus as a dedicated and deliberate craftsman who stuck to a routine, decade after decade. Also: a run-of-the-mill cat fanatic - which is about as conventional as it gets! Best wishes to all of you, wherever you are. 🥃🐧
The correct German term is not "Schlagwort", but "Stichwort". A "Schlagwort" is usually easy to understand and appealing to the emotions, often used as a slogan, as a means of propaganda.
Hi! This is a documentary series with already two episodes and another one in the mixing stage. The first episode is dedicated to the 'Artificial Intelligence' project, the second to Kubrick's mythical perfectionism and the third will be dedicated to scriptwriting. For the moment you can see them on Vimeo (vimeo.com/ondemand/stanleyandus) and more than ten episodes are planned. This page is a bit of a showcase for the material we have on Stanley Kubrick (hours and hours of interviews with collaborators and family).
Val Kilmer and Tom Cruise at that time were equal from a talent standpoint (They both didn't have a large range because of their appearence). Tom Cruise was just commercially more viable.Kubrick did compromise his choices with producer's ones more than once. Also in Berry Lindon Ryan O' Neal and Marisa Berenson were chosed and announced lot earlier the finalization of the project..
That's what I used to think.. I'd say both did surprise.. Tom in Interview With A Vampire Val in The Doors, in Tombstone.. More then just a pretty face.. A bit like Matthew Mcconaughey, though he really did surpass.. Dallas Buyers Club, True Detective ...
Maybe Val Kilmer would have worked out well, who knows? But for the life of me I can't figure out why he chose Matthew Modine as Joker. He does nothing to make that character interesting or convincing. One man's opinion though.
Val wanted to be Joker in Full Metal Jacket but he's too good of an actor for that role and a stud. He would have upstaged the whole thing. Joker had to be played by a sucky actor that's a dud. Similar case with Barry Lyndon.
Lol... You sound as if you are brought up on standup entertainment. If there isn't a punchline to excite the nervous system every 10 seconds, you fall asleep. Is that it? ;)
Kubrick punked the world with his films. Ending of 2001 was ridiculous, but he pretended it was profound. Eyes Wide Shut was a complete ripoff of a 1926 novel already made into a film and he pretended it was original. Full Metal Jacket was nothing except for love you long time and Pyle's donut.
2001 was profound. It was about a regular astronaut who physically died and achieved cosmic consciousness. Enlightenment. And after that he could do whatever, he wanted and was no longer limited by the physical. If you knew anything about eastern, hindu spiritual philosophy you would know of the cosmic child. But how do you put such a message into a movie without people calling you a hippie freak? Kubrick was addressing educated and spiritually knowledgeable people. He didn't care about the superficial audience who just came for the popcorn and the fast excitement. That part of the audience, sure... he punked those bigtime. And I be he enjoyed it too! Lol.
Boris the Bullet Dodger? Why do they call him that? Because he dodges bullets Avi.
😄
Boris The Blade: "Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work you can always hit them with it."
Thank you! I was trying to place him without Googling it!
I love that scene. Hilarious!
-Where is the stone?
-it's in the briefcase.
-then open the briefcase and give me the stone.
Boris to Stanley: "Heavy is good, heavy is reliable."
"If it doesn't work you can always hit him with it."
😂
"Boris, what are you doing here?"
He dodges bullets, Avi!
"Take a piss Boris..."
It's great that Stanley immediately understood and laughed.
Ofcourse he did. He was a psychopath and sadist. Kilmer deperately wanted to work with him and Kubrik kept silence to torture him. When he heard that Kilmer snaped about it, he felt satisfied.
@@Talsedoom That's so on cue, haha, i bet it made his day haha.
@@Talsedoom What does that have to do with being an alleged "psychopath" and "sadist"?
@@Bernacide there are plenty of psychopaths that lack any merit; what you are witnessing is jealousy manifest looking for an excuse to disparage it's betters. Also what he said is clearly emotionally driven idiocy.
what a smooth guy
This actor rules, such a special appearance on camera
Rade Šerbedžija is a phenomenal actor, too bad Western audiences are not exposed to his works in Yugoslavia.
Actors are so so good at telling good stories....
Without a script most actors struggle to generate a cohesive sentence!
@@touchofdumb Boy, you must've gotten a touch of dumb!
Just like any else, some are good at telling stories and some are not.
You people must be fun at parties?
“Touchofdumb” has been to lunch with every modern actor/actress, so he obviously knows what he’s talking about. The username has NO reflection of the individual behind the curtain. None!
Rade you never WAS a star. You still are! A Legend!
I wish Kubrik had said, “Well, I know a little German. He’s sitting right there.”
I absolutely did not recognize him during the first minute or so...... until I read the description text. Lovely and magical guy.
Great story and he's a good storyteller.
Rade Šerbedžija
Kubrick was great at chess, he’d have known Kilmer’s game.
"Weight.....Weight is. a sign of quality If it don't, you can hit him with it." Boris the Bullet Dodger.
He’s a natural treasure and the real Most Interesting Man in the World.
No, that’s Jonathan Goldsmith
Also, imagine Val Kilmer having sent him thirty tapes with audition material on spec? Poor thing. And poor Kubrick sitting there with EWS going "I really like this guy! Maybe I'll come up with something for him for my next project?"
Imagine how many people sent him stuff? Imagine what kinds of people? Because no one in the business would say no to the chance of working with Kubrick.
However, the one who watched all the tapes that were sent to Kubrick was Leon Vitali.
@@stanleyandus Yes, of course, but he would've filtered through the important stuff, and Kubrick was obviously aware of the Kilmer situation.
I just find it amusing what kind of level of professionality we're talking about here. Like there's no upper limit to the fan girling here if even names like Val Kilmer could shout himself blue in the face without getting any response from Kubrick.
There's a similar situation to Ingmar Bergman and all the people who made a pilgrimage to the island of Fårö for a chance to meet the master. But Bergman could be quite nasty and just say no to people out of jealousy and out of spite, and some people were quite hurt about that.
Like Lars von Trier who fan girled in vain until he reckoned he had been rejected and started shit talking Bergman instead. But I have a hard time seeing Kubrick doing anything out of spite? I just don't think he had the time to give to all his fans? His mind worked so fast he couldn't even keep up with himself.
So I can imagine him talking about Kilmer and all sorts of people with warmth despite the fact he hadn't time for them?
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 Ang Lee went to Bergmanland and met him in 2006.
@@somethingaboutthemovies5116 Yes, I know that story, and it's a very sweet story. I actually cried when I saw Ang Lee telling that story, because it's such an important part of him becoming a filmmaker in the first place. My point is that Bergman could be quite cruel and arbitrary in the way he "let people in" or slammed the door in front of them.
There are countless of stories of Swedish actors that didn't become a part of Bergmans company of actors because of a one time sleigh decades ago. And Bergman could hold a grudge for decades. And I'm talking great actors on a Bergman level of performance, so it's a loss they never got the chance to work for him.
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 Very clear. Love listening to this.
Loved him in Eurotrip!
That’s a nice coat
Careful who sees you with that.
Love this guy 👍🏻
Such an engaging story-teller
Eyes Wide Shut is my favorite Stan movie, very scary.
A very underrated and misunderstood film
No doubt, with what’s come to light especially. Many don’t see what they’re being shown, apt title!
I've always found that the movie just drags forever, shining is more watchable but still too long. tom cruise is so boring his acting is cardboard the game with michael douglas is a way better illuminate thriller.
Scary, because it is true. Stanley died not long after. Coincidence?
@@garyt3hsna1l82the scene in the Rothschild mansion is sublime.
I thought it was a great look into jealousy and betrayal.
Nicole Kidman hurts cruise with the story of her lusting after someone else. He then goes on a dangerous journey , is it for revenge or lack of respect in the relationship?
Well Val Kilmer is a genius actor and deserved much much bigger career.
Funny, I never saw that.
@@matthewlynch903 You never saw Doc Holiday in Tombstone ?
I like Kilmer. Too bad he was known for being kind of an a-hole on set. He did a movie in the early 2000s with RDJ that was really good (forget the name).
@@SRMoore1178 Solton sea?
@@A.I-GAMING yeah, he def got robbed for that oscar or whatever it was.
Holy crap, I didn't recognize this guy without the long hair!
Great!
I could sit and have a few drinks with Rade, I think it'd be a blast!
just before this interview he was drinking grappa.
Lavorare per Kubrick non ha prezzo. In eyes wide shut è stato fantastico.ma luì è un attore sublime
Rade Serbedzija, djes ba!
Djes ba, glumac!
Great actor
My bet is that Kubrick simply didn't have a suitable role for Kilmer. He's made some really odd choices for casting, but it works somehow
Rade then proceed working with Val on Moscow Zero and 5 Days of War
Ah yeah 'The Saint' in which Simon Templar (Val) was able to take on many amazing disguises.
One of his best is.. as Ivan Tratiak (Rade)
There's this scene where they are confronted.
At times when he speaks reminds me of Christopher Walken talking
Me Too Rade, Me too 🤣
Nice coat
He seems like Mourinho with a moustache
Good story 👍
Rade plati kavu na Korzu.
Is this guy aging in reverse??? He looks like he’s in his late forties here, but in his fifties back in the 90’s
This made my brain hurt
The 90's were an awful time for Yugoslavia, Ask the Clintons and the Blairs.
Maybe it's an old interview.
@@Pilafcgthis 😅
Took me most of the video to recognize who he was in the film!
I needed 0.1s. Rade is well known in the Balkans.
Boris the blade !
Nice coat.
"The time I told Kubrick someone hated him" - that's a story you tell your grandchildren to show them how cool you are. 😏
Best wishes from Vermont ❄️
Absolutely!😄
Thank you @@stanleyandus for setting up this channel. It's wonderful to now hear from people who knew and worked with Kubrick.
Their stories are putting an end to the myths about him. He's coming into focus as a dedicated and deliberate craftsman who stuck to a routine, decade after decade. Also: a run-of-the-mill cat fanatic - which is about as conventional as it gets!
Best wishes to all of you, wherever you are. 🥃🐧
The correct German term is not "Schlagwort", but "Stichwort". A "Schlagwort" is usually easy to understand and appealing to the emotions, often used as a slogan, as a means of propaganda.
Awesome
Great story. Is this a forthcoming documentary?
Hi! This is a documentary series with already two episodes and another one in the mixing stage. The first episode is dedicated to the 'Artificial Intelligence' project, the second to Kubrick's mythical perfectionism and the third will be dedicated to scriptwriting. For the moment you can see them on Vimeo (vimeo.com/ondemand/stanleyandus) and more than ten episodes are planned. This page is a bit of a showcase for the material we have on Stanley Kubrick (hours and hours of interviews with collaborators and family).
when was this interview
1999 Venice Film Festival.
@@stanleyandus thanks
He hated Kubrick, and everybody hated him on set because he behaved as a capricious mean a*hole.
Not towards those who did their craft well, and whom he respected. I think he hated conceited superficial actors. At least it's how I read him.
you didn't watch this video
I've never heard an anecdote about Kubrick that wasn't interesting.
Val Kilmer and Tom Cruise at that time were equal from a talent standpoint (They both didn't have a large range because of their appearence). Tom Cruise was just commercially more viable.Kubrick did compromise his choices with producer's ones more than once. Also in Berry Lindon Ryan O' Neal and Marisa Berenson were chosed and announced lot earlier the finalization of the project..
That's what I used to think..
I'd say both did surprise..
Tom in Interview With A Vampire
Val in The Doors, in Tombstone..
More then just a pretty face..
A bit like Matthew Mcconaughey, though he really did surpass.. Dallas Buyers Club, True Detective ...
I have problem, with my hair
He Serbian!!! So am I!
Human fly,,, don't buzz off
I was hoping the story would end with "Stanley, Val Kilmer wants me to tell you how much he hates you." "Who?"
why does he sound like a slower-talking Jose Mourinho?
Both Jose and Rade speak english as a second language. Their local accents are thick.
If I know anything about Kubrick... I would be surprised if he wasn't a bit of an asshole
Rade looks like Nikola Tesla
Actually, they both came from the same region in Croatia called Lika and Rade played Tesla in an old Yugoslav TV series.
Maybe Val Kilmer would have worked out well, who knows? But for the life of me I can't figure out why he chose Matthew Modine as Joker. He does nothing to make that character interesting or convincing. One man's opinion though.
He sounds like Moroder
What about the moon landing?
What about it? It was faked of course. And it's very possible that Kubrick was involved.
Bullet dodger 😂👌
serbians look alike, he looks like Jokic
Val wanted to be Joker in Full Metal Jacket but he's too good of an actor for that role and a stud. He would have upstaged the whole thing. Joker had to be played by a sucky actor that's a dud. Similar case with Barry Lyndon.
a mask and a hood
That Saint movie sucked. It was not The Saint.
so very much full of himself... no need, very yugo... sad.
Kubrick never said that about Tom Cruise.
Your flag is a disgrace.
@@farerolobos9382 Why's that?
@@farerolobos9382cry about it.
I hope Mr. Kubrick said, "Who?"
Devil huh? Yup, thats Hollywood.
Took far too long to tell such a dull story. A mark of either stupidity or self-indulgence
Lol... You sound as if you are brought up on standup entertainment. If there isn't a punchline to excite the nervous system every 10 seconds, you fall asleep. Is that it?
;)
Kubrick punked the world with his films. Ending of 2001 was ridiculous, but he pretended it was profound. Eyes Wide Shut was a complete ripoff of a 1926 novel already made into a film and he pretended it was original. Full Metal Jacket was nothing except for love you long time and Pyle's donut.
What about Dr Stranglove? What was that one ?
You’re clearly a buffoon.
Yeah, I much rather watch Transformers and the Bee movie. Those are much more profond movies that speaks volume of human psychology.
He did a different path than Clarke with his book.
2001 was profound. It was about a regular astronaut who physically died and achieved cosmic consciousness. Enlightenment. And after that he could do whatever, he wanted and was no longer limited by the physical. If you knew anything about eastern, hindu spiritual philosophy you would know of the cosmic child. But how do you put such a message into a movie without people calling you a hippie freak?
Kubrick was addressing educated and spiritually knowledgeable people. He didn't care about the superficial audience who just came for the popcorn and the fast excitement. That part of the audience, sure... he punked those bigtime. And I be he enjoyed it too! Lol.
Rade Serbedzija is good actor but very, very bad person.
That is one of the most discusting humans ever. Not the Kubrick of course.
WTF are you crapping on about? Tom Cruise believes in Scientology 😂😂😂😂
Which one are you talking about, and why?
If I were Kurbrick I'd tell Rade, "get rid of the stash, it's distracting"
It's gorgeous. You know nothing.