Billionaire donors rethinking Columbia University support
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
- Andrew Ross Sorkin joins Morning Joe to discuss how billionaire donors are rethinking support for Columbia University.
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Billionaire donors rethinking Columbia University support
#ColumbiaUniversity #Israel #Gaza
why do these universities get so much money from billionaires yet they still charge tens of thousands of dollars per semester for tuition? Where is the money going?
Simple: Bureaucratic expansion.
Their salary, lodging, expenses,,,,
They are ivy league, not public.
Why don't you actually do some research on it
its truuuuu and the teacher make good money but that much either, they will literlally build prts of campus costing tens of millions of dollars
We are living in an oligarchy not a democracy.
QQ. These Billionaires made their money and they get to fund what they want. Its not an oligarchy... I do not know if you know what that word means.
Oh look you learned a new word
Bingo
The country isn't a democracy anyway. Read Republic by Plato
@@Mickeymouse7727oh look, a Biden voter
OH no!!! The HEDGEFUND known as Columbia University won't have as much money to not spend on their students!!!!!!!!!
This is part of the problem. We have a lopsided economy and over reliance on billionaires for funding thwarts the will of student’s. And thwarts the Will of the American people, who don’t support the Palestinian genocide.
Columbia University is sitting on $13,6 billion in endowment money. Still tuition, room and books for four years is as high as $320,000. The president of Columbia makes $4.2 Million per year. Along with 24 trustees earning another $2.7 Million. And you see the end product. A complete rip off.
Incorrect. They use commas properly
Families that earn less than $150k don’t pay for tuition.
@@rensinclair4218 How pendantic of u
Protest against war has been in college campuses forever.
@@rensinclair4218 Maybe these are 'Columbia commas'?
MSNBC should read their own comment section from time to time.
They only read the dictates from the billionaire class.
TRUTH. They don’t want to hear from us little people. They’re elites and better than us because they know more than we do!!
Nah. You're not important
@@TheBrindleBoxerwrong. Stop being paranoid
It's about the money, Lebowski. They don't care about the comment section - just pushing the propaganda - here anti-free speech propaganda - their sponsors want pushed. Instead of responding to the wrongness of further funding Israel & the war Ukraine has ZERO chances of winning, they want to shoot the messenger (protestors).
Why is our educational system dependent upon the whims of billionaires?
…you’re late to the party. Every large institution has at least one major donor backing them.
US Taxpayers are done footing deadbeat student's loan debts
Because they have the money...
@@optimusprinceps3526 That doesn't even make sense.
Coz the students didn't pay enough.
Freedom of speech is only free if the check doesn't bounce....😅
Welcome to real life!
Getting F's in history, geography, geopolitics, government, math, science, and biology, besides everything else seemingly incorrect is no way to go through life
Free speech?
Freedom to do whatever we want with our money. Freedom of Speech does not mean freedom from consequences of it.
They are free to go to the street corner like everyone else
Stop funding these universities and starting giving money towards better health care and K-8 education
As much as I think the idea of social healthcare is stupid it would still be of more use than funding these stupid colleges so they can keep indoctrinating their kids
These are private universities, they are not funded by taxes. They are funded through tuition and donations.
The passion of your ignorance is tragic.
@@hectorcastro8374They are if Biden forgives student loans!
K-8 will never get better so long as the majority of $$ goes to bringing remedial students up to average.
we need to stop investing so heavily in the least capable, it's destroying our schools.
So the guy at the beginning was saying Vietnam protests were a bad thing 😂
I'm sure he didn't serve
Sometimes they were
@@johnnymisbegottengood. It was a false flag that got us into Vietnam. Dork
literally. i saw a quote recently that said something like “protests in the past are always seen as good; current protests are condemned”
they really are on the wrong side of history on this, condemning protest without engaging at all with what the protests are about, with WHY people are outraged. probably would’ve been condemning anti-war movements during the vietnam war, too - with this mentality.
No. He said that taking over the president’s office was a bad thing
Money controls the free words
Darn right
The US is not the free world. Stop using that propaganda term.
They're free to use words they just don't get to be where they are not welcome. They can go to the street corner and get on a soapbox
🎯🎯🎯😡😡
Why not report on how Americans need an extra $11,400 due to inflation rising since 2021.
Because they steal from the poor,
Because that story has been covered and nauseum. At that point, it is no longer news.
You voted Democrat, reap what you sow
You voted Democrat reap what you sow
@@2stoves1 No one was asking you anything
Freedom of speech till someone says something you don’t like
Exactly
There’s no freedom of harassment 🤦♂️
@@izzyc1570Harassment like climate activists sitting in the middle of a highway, preventing people from getting to work or to hospitals?
@@r3sistorserve939 you mean the right wing terrorists standing on the bridge blocking the traffic? these are the p people and the trump truckers.
Getting F's in history, geography, geopolitics, government, math, science, and biology, besides everything else seemingly incorrect, then babbling nonsensical gibberish is no way to go through life
How dare those students think for themselves. We will be having none of that!!! Be good little toadies like Joey Scarborough want you to be
Never interfere with your enemy when they are in the process of destroying themselves
Napoleon Bonaparte
His donations are write offs…
somebody's never paid taxes
@@DumbleDoff all donations are writeoff my brosky
He can always find another place to write off these funds. I don't think many organizations would refuse the money.
@@sealttwo-013real estate is a better way to reduce income.
To be fair, he’s donating more than he would save in taxes. A net loss.
Very normal economic system, where schools are influenced by the politics of billionaires.
Donate to the community colleges not the large universities! It’s the community colleges that need funding! Those big universities on the other hand don’t need it since they have access to huge grants. Besides the two year community colleges serve and support the demands of the surrounding communities unlike the large universities. The working classes need more help and resources than the rich and wealthy that attend the larger universities!
Provide more scholarships to the community colleges! We need more folks with associates and bachelor’s degrees then we need Master’s & PHD’s!!!
They will fund and ad a huge dollop of their favorite propaganda.
Community Colleges is filled with normal sane people. I wish they were influencing the public discourse and not these clowns.
I don't think educational institutions should be taking corrupt people's money.
University system itself is corrupted. Their professors and students support terrorist and refuse to condemn terrorist.
Capitalism: 🤷♂
Well, if they don't, they'll be bankrupt.
@@mile_high_topheroligarchy. We stopped being a capitalist country after WW2. Read more kid
Ok then everybody wins if they pull out their money.
Corruption should be out of the educational system
Then how will they create good little capitalists?
It's a private institution.
It’s only CEOs who cheat on their taxes!
Coaches are paid more than professors
MSMBC has hit bottom now!😅😅😅
The fact that you are a billionaire does not make you right.
Make that make sense
But This Time Billionaires Are Right
@joarGyjuRanar the fact that ur a privlaged university kid does not make u right
@@antmanselector I am 30 years old and work at sanitation. What is your problem?
@@joarGyjuRanar all this stuff against billionaires its not them that are the biggest problem it's theese privalged university kids with a golden spoon in their mouth
Please tell msnbc viewers that Columbia Univ is not in Bogota
You do realize fox viewers are measurably dumber, right?
That's not how you spell Fox News.
The protesters are not saying that Jews should be harmed. They are saying that Israel should stop bombing innocent women and children in Gaza. Why is this distinction so hard to understand.
You should look at other news reports that show them calling for Al Qasam to come and "do what they do". Communist news outlets will not show anything that will disparage Bidens favorite terrorist voting base.
But that’s not what they’re saying. That’s what most people want I think, but it’s not what they’re chanting.
@@dannabwal I watch he news. I've heard them chanting "free Palestine" not not anything about harming Jews or anyone else. Do you have any examples of that?
So the donor determines what to be taught in the university! Ugly system!
No. That's not how it works.
@@Zelda_Kittythats how the billionaires want it to work though and then using blackmail snd their corrupt donations against the students
The students should be learning and going to class. Not disrupting campus life for everybody else…like bratty kids that can’t get their way.
@@starrystarrynight6281 protests are meant to be disruptive genius. Any protest that has EVER accomplished something was disruptive in some form or another. Our country was founded on the boston tea party-disruptive protest. It’s a fundamebtal hallmark of the constitution of the united states. You’re not American if you don’t understand that.
What does this have to do with class curriculum? This is about keeping the campus safe for all students to go to class without disruption and harassment from protesters
Some people are itching for blood shed on American soil!!
I've got my popcorn
De population
Better known as a crazy leftist.
Given the prices they charge, why d8es anyone need to donate money.
Because all those employees, computers, buildings, maintenance, furniture, landscaping, security, etc. are expensive.
Without donors the universities would be cash flow negative even with tuition
Let's talk more about the big business system of college education! 🤑 🤮
So talk Bozo. Talk about big business social media too if you want.
Well, they can’t talk about the current state of the economy, the borders, foreign policy lol.
Yeah let’s get the government out of education
@@carlmarston1687 little too late for that.
@@carlmarston1687 maybe.. and let's also keep replies on this thread to only those with respect and knowledge
Tell the students they have free speech and the right to protest against injustice and they do it. As they should... and this is a problem? Or is it a problem because it offends the pro-Israel meme?
Not when wishing harm to America. That is treason!
You know the answer
biden is avoiding any situation that would require sending our troops over there. i guess they want u.s. troops to die?
@@colinl5951reread the first amendment
How is peaceful protest against genocide attacking America? They are protesting against a policy not a racial/religious group.
Open your eyes people, you’re seeing all the BS right here in front of your eyes.
What is their to think about you created this mess.. stop funding them
Poison Ivy League
We never had this problem under Trump.
Nor in Florida or Texas.
@@t.r.campbell6585 there were famously no protests under trump.
@@t.r.campbell6585huh?
@@t.r.campbell6585we had Covid instead. Nobody fears Trump and will hold off on a war because he’s in office.
Do you really understand what antisemitism really is? It also represents everyone living in the Middle East, and there is a lot of antisemitism against Arabs and Palestinians. As reporters you should know definition of words before you use them. Antisemitism is not only about Jews.
Not according to Wikipedia. What's your source for a definition of antisemitism? Oh, and Palestinians are Arab
I fully support students' right to protest and exercise their free speech.
Yes, but when it becomes more like harassment and then anti-Semitism, you have a problem
How is the university unsafe?
Apparantly you don't watch the news.
@@gbonkers666
Apparently your feeling are hurt by mean words
@@gbonkers666apparently you like watching legacy Media
Fox News
CNN
MSNBC
Etc.
Its not. They want to pain the media narrative that way
It threatens Zionist domination over the whole system
Past time that the billionaires of this country get their influence cut way back.
They run this country wake up.
Lol. Only because you aren't one.
@@blakethegreatone2058 neither are you so... ?
@@chrisstanley5647 that isn't relevant. Lol
@@blakethegreatone2058that’s because I don’t want to exploit workers
As soon as you hear "I think" out of a journalists mouth, they've stopped being a journalist.
...and adjectives betray their subjectivity!
If you don’t like free speech you can move somewhere else. And being anti Israeli govt is not antisemitism. If you think that you are stupid.
Exactly
Hate speech isn't free speech. Go get your tiki, MAGAt.
Tell these Donor to tightly roll their money and shove it.
If you want to learn who controls you just look at who you're not allowed to criticize. Could it be any clearer now?
Our federal government spent 10,000usd on $100 worth of parts. Where is the outage over that?
It's always been there but it's never done anything, when our government always ignores its own people, and does what it wants regardless.
1,800 for a toilet seat seems reasonable to me.
Students are free to protest regardless of what billionaire is contributing. Billionaires calling the shots because they don't agree with the issue. So much for freedom to protest. Protesting against the state of Israel is NOT antisemitism.
Well, when those billionaires belong to the group of people that the students are violently protesting against...why should they?
Antisemitic filth
So they don't get a say to where their money goes?
I support the students of Columbia U. 💯% and their protests against APARTHEID Israel. Protect Free Speech!
@@danearl-mw4iz- who cares about your support. Keep typing from your parents basement loser
Antizionism is NOT antisemitism. Stop trying to say it is. And protesting is the most American thing we can do as citizens. That’s what help during the civil rights movement.
The civil rights movement didn't call for getting or killing white people.
Seems like everything in this country is contingent on it being deemed worthy by billionaires.
No, the university has completely failed here. This isn’t peaceful, it’s a mess, no matter what side you’re on.
My daughters and grandsons paid their own tuition (some academic scholarships) As a single Mom, learned debt is the devil.
People should learn about specific words. Its not political or a war, its a Humanitarian crisis.
The students are speaking out on the moral and the ethical issues of innocent people suffering.
And its great that the moderators are speaking up on the bribery that exists at the top of these schools.
You think?😏.2024Trump..The Renaissance begins!!💕❤️⛱️🇺🇸😏❤️💕
I am glad that Billionaire Robert Kraft is pulling his donations from Columbia University. Good for him for doing the moral and ethical actions.
Maybe taxing these billionaires at a fair rate would remove the need for them to throw endowments down to pacify the need for fairness make the colleges, all, self-supporting.
they are taxed at the highest rate
Tax rates are fluid.
Raising their taxes would do absolutely nothing at all. If you took all the money from all the billionaires in America, you could run the US government for about 3 months.
Respectfully, I disagree. All the money would not be put into one giant hopper, and it would be reoccurring. But I see your point.
What's there to rethink... Stop the funding immediately
Including not a penny from the federal government.
Well... they need to shut it down.
I hope that all sane, rational, American patriot billionaires are stopping their donations to all Universities Coast-to-Coast.
protesting the truth isnt anti anything. its pro life
They can keep their blood money for all I care
🤡
Just whose university is this anyway. Hybrid learning is stepping around bullies. .
This coverage is a distraction from the real issue. The loss of life in Gaza. Over 30k civilians
this is such a weak segment with lame arguments
How can Columbia be doing the right thing? There are twice as many students camping on their lawns as there were the day of the arrests. The situation is out by of control. Getting the students off campus is the only way to bring this to an end. These kids are hysterical. They have been and are being indoctrinated. This is beyond anything academics can handle.
Billionaires run this country.
PACK ….Even the election 😂
And media like Morning Joe in this clip will talk endless about how this is a good thing. What was Sorkin on about at the end that administrators aren’t honoring their part of the corrupt deal now?
Theese peivakged leotestors certainly shouldn't
You left the "i" out of ruin.
Weirdos run u.s colleges
So calling for ceasefire is anti-semitic?
Every donor who thinks withholding funds is the thing to do need to keep all the money to themselves. Student protests occur in every generation.
What a bunch of BS. I am 60 and never ever have
I seen this kind of protests. So stop speaking like this is normal.. It is not. Stop being part of the problem. 😮.
*I was a teenager during the Vietnam War protests. This is worse than back then! We weren't calling for the extermination of a whole people!*
Neither are they
I sure miss those mean tweets 😅
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SHut up. Trump was pro Israel. He would be right here with leon cooperman
the Jewish donors should just donate all money to Israel or move to Israel!!!
The protesters should head right to Philistine and help them out!
It’s about anti genocide NOT antisemitism. It’s better not to take endowments from the donors who don’t respect justice and freedom of speech.
When this spreads to all campuses what are they going to do.
So far they've suspended protesters outside this one and then arrested a hundred former students for trespassing. I expect they'll follow their lead.
The difference is the Vietnam era students didnt protest for student loan forgiveness.
College days are over kids, you took your ideas too far. When you grow up you will hopefully understand.
"Oh no! We wouldn't want to displease our billionaire overlords!"
Wonder who are those billionaires and what relationship they have with Israel ?
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
What's to think about? You need to pull the funding, PERIOD!
Amazing how MSNBC is so neutral in it's coverage. Kidding!!!!!
This is like ChatGPT making a completely out of touch news segment
Good 😂 Face the consequences of your actions!
What about the babies that Hamas burned in their cribs in front of their parents on October 7th.
And what about the 33,000 Palestinians that are dead? Mostly children by the way. Maybe Israel should be concerned about that instead of a few dead Israelis that asked for it by colonizing someone else’s land.
So 10,000+ other innocent children should suffer because of it?
The pro-terror kids don't care, that's the problem
That information was from very credible source, idf.
@@samuel-no8ypit was the Jews land first, since 6,000 years ago.
Wrong to blame & punish the University. Free Speech.
This is why we need to nationalize universities
That dude's literally a hedge fund manager. Like why am I gonna listen to someone who sold their soul😅😅😅
Because has the money...
Anti war is not antisemitism
When missiles were sent into Israel they were quiet.Israel fights back they protest against Israel.
What is going on at Columbia University is the result of the monetizing higher education. Colleges and universities have become businesses, with students being the customers and the diplomas that are the products being sold.
Don't take money from anyone or foreign governments. The Donors expect you to be indebted to them and their agendas. It's not fair to the students and faculties.
So this is more important than the 310 bodies, including the bodies of childten, found in mass graves in the last week??????
WHOA, cool it with your anti-semitism!!!
The echo chamber thinking projected by the people on this show has helped create this situation.
“There’s nothing cool about fighting the power”
Democracy is controlled by money. Knee down to the riches, this is how America politics works. Sad.
I'm new to this discussion. So, what does Columbia have to do with the Hamas Israel conflict? I don't get it.
They have investments in Israeli companies and never issued a statement denouncing the genocide thus far implying they are in support of it
Shameful of Columbia to support an apartheid and gen*ciding regime!
the only way the government listens to the genocide it is doing in the world
Investment in Israel and students are asking to cut ties
Go read about it yourself 🤷
Think giving them money,they will believe what you believe 😂
Holy crap. So the answer is to offer virtual classes? How much money does it cost to attend that college?!!!!!
I agree with Barnicle. He was there in the ‘60s. I was too. The anti-war protests didn’t involve hate in the ‘60s. Oh sure, we hated the war, hated the draft, but we didn’t hate people of a specific ethnicity. We loved people, that’s why we considered the Viet Nam war such a travesty. This, today, is a different animal.
EXACTLY. Thanks for pointing out the NEW ISLAMO LEFT. DANGEROUS
Which people of specific ethnicity are hated ?The fake victimisation is crazy. Let guess antisemitism... The fact that y'all expect people to support a genocide or they are antisemitism is hilarious. Many protesters are jews themselves, are they also antisemitic for refusing to have their names attached to a genocide and protesting ? Lol
As a decent human being with a heart you are supposed to hate genocide.
Being anti genocide doesn't make me a racist.
@@robot6871 The "decent human being" thing seems to be the problem.
Keep protesting gen z!!! Let em know ya won't stay silent for anything!!!!
This Boomer from the 1960s agrees!
America, the world, needs our youth to speak up.
The largest student protests in US history was triggered by the news of Nixon’s invasion of Cambodia combined with the Kent State killings…May 1970
How pathetic. Just showing their hands and who controls everything. "Its not us" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I support this. Universities have become way too politically partisan. These protests would be raided by swat if it were conservatives taking over a school like that.
Are these ignorant students ignoring the fact that it was HAMAS from Palestine who started this war by attacking innocent people in Israel. Protest against HAMAS makes sense, ....NOT THIS.
Your brain is so small that you don't know history, did you know that Israel didn't long exist and take away the lands from Palestine?
Are ignorant people like you saying that retaliation for killing 1000 Israelis is justified by killing 40,000+ Palestinians?
Are you ignoring the fact that 30,000+ Palestinians are dead?
Most children, women, elderly, disabled.
@@johnrider4649 it’s more like 40,000+
The confusing part to me, where are the helicopter parents? Ultimately these antics will cost them a lot of 💰 when their kids come home to roost.
Just googled columbia u's endowment.
'The total value of Columbia's endowment as of June 30, 2023 was $13.6 billion, reflecting a return of 4.7% on the assets managed by Columbia University Investment Management Company, as well as gifts and transfers, and spending from the endowment in fiscal 2023. The University's trailing ten-year return is 8.0%.'
That could easily pay a bunch of saleries or tuitions.
We do not live in a free country.
The War protests were against a War, not a religious faith!
They framed it as the Hamas Israeli war? Which is wrong as is. It's really the genocide of the Palestinian people.
Sure
Right Comrade
This is against a genocide. If you ever wonder how you would react during the holocaust, you have your answer.
Being anti-zionist isn't being anti-Jewish.
If I was a Jewish donor I would definitely be thinking twice before I donated anything to an institution where there were members and supporters chanting death wishes at me.
Would you need evidence that people were doing that or would you just take it based on a rumor! Would you donate to a state that by its actions puts Jews around the WORLD in greater danger by pretending to be a representative for them?
They are not chanting death wishes. Pay attention.
The students are chanting against the death of Palestinians.
How can you not see that? Blinded by Zionism?
You don’t have to give your money to the universities with conditions. If you don’t want to give your money, keep it to yourself. You cannot give money to control them and tell them what to do.
All in all, the university well get defunded, not their collaborations with the companies the student want to get defunded.
Oh jeez, when the billionaires are against you, you KNOW you’re on the right side of history.
Nah. 😂😂
@@munchezfonataba You won’t be one, and that’s okay.