ActiveStart Soft Starter & RV Surge Protector Review - Part 1 Features & First Test using Park Power

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  • Опубліковано 26 жов 2024

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  • @LoveYourRV
    @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

    *View Part 2 Video - AC Startup in RV Park & Off Grid using Generator & Inverters* - ua-cam.com/video/aFOaOk7imrc/v-deo.html
    *Active Controls Website* - www.active-controlsllc.com/
    Active Controls UA-cam Channel - ua-cam.com/channels/2oKOjtZL-YMZbPzv5PpizQ.html
    Amazon Link - amzn.to/3Xaco1M

  • @stacyhazelwood4033
    @stacyhazelwood4033 Рік тому +3

    I bought 1 of these about a month ago. I love mine. I had some questions and the owner of the company answered my questions. Good customer service.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      Great to hear, thanks for the comment.

  • @Smapdi60
    @Smapdi60 Рік тому +5

    Very interesting. I spent $250 and an hour to install a Softstart. If this will allow you to use your AC on a small generator that will be a huge deal. Let us know when it finally gets warm enough to fire up the AC

  • @herb7877
    @herb7877 Рік тому +1

    I am amazed how many generator "not working" issues I have solved over the years with a Neutral Ground Bonding Plug as you showed in the beginning. We camp with a large group a couple times a year. Quite often someone is wondering why their generator isn't working or keeps tripping off. When asked, the first words out of my mouth are " Neutral ground plug". Quick trip to a hardware store and for about $5 you can make one up in minutes. If I'm not mistaken I believe I learned it from you about 5-6 years ago.... It has stuck with me.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I soon found out back in early 2013 when my EMS would spit out an open ground error when I ran my generator. I spiced an old dog bone adapter I had kicking around to make the N-G plug.

  • @jockosboy17
    @jockosboy17 Рік тому +1

    I bought the 20 amp model to install on just my AC circuit vs. buying a 30 amp for the entire rig. Saved quite a bit of money going with the 20 amp as it is plenty for just the AC circuit. I graphed draw using the soft start vs. nothing and it consistently drew less start up amps. I saw about an 8 amp reduction. Also I had a couple questions about how the generator size selection affected draw and the customer service was outstanding. Really fast response as I didn’t expect them to respond until the next day but I had a response within a couple hours. Seems to be a really good company.

  • @danielmckenna2461
    @danielmckenna2461 Рік тому

    We recently picked one of these up.
    I'm on the fence on the unit. I did get my 15k Coleman mach AC started with it on a little champion 2500 inverter generator.
    Running gasoline it stutters really hard when the compressor kicks on, but it does start. On propane the generator chugs down , and the AC doesn't start. It's a bit frustrating because it takes a few minutes for the unit to reset.
    The company seems great. I called them on a Saturday, and the guy (I think the company is one guy) picked up and answered a bunch of questions for me.
    I guess this is the expected behavior. That he's shaping the load. He explained that it's a different technology than the hard wired capacitor ones that I'm more familiar with. He also explained that it won't work with the solar generators (battery banks) but that he's working on a solution for that.
    For the price, to get a soft start and a surge protector, and Bluetooth power monitor in one package... It's a no brainer for someone getting started.
    We already have an EPO surge protector, and the capacitor ones are more effective at starting the AC and limiting the voltage drop on the bus, so I'm probably going to send mine back and get his hard wired one.
    I would definitely buy other products from this company. But this one misses the mark a bit on what we needed it for.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      Thanks for the feedback. I agree the company is very responsive. In my second video, the product couldn't start my 14.5k BTU Furrion from my generator and inverters ua-cam.com/video/aFOaOk7imrc/v-deo.html Since the guy has sent me a modified one that he tried different programming on but still no luck. So next, I'm going to try their hard-wired version. Cheers, Ray

  • @craigmckenzie8028
    @craigmckenzie8028 Рік тому +1

    This sounds like a great product. It will be nice to see your review with the generator and without a generator running.
    Cheers

  • @darylhawkins4658
    @darylhawkins4658 Рік тому +1

    Great video. I installed a MicroAir EasyStart on the A/C unit not so much as to run off my Honda EU2000i generator, but to run the camper off a 20amp utility outlet. The audible thump in the ceiling when the A/C compressor cycles on is no longer heard.

  • @rickbeyer6633
    @rickbeyer6633 Рік тому +1

    Looking forward to this review!

  • @da7heaven
    @da7heaven Рік тому +1

    lol, I saw the 92 degrees F and wondered where in the heck you are that's that hot right now. Good to know it's the device temperature. I sent them an email asking them to let me know when the 50 amp version is out, and I mentioned that you referred me to them.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      haha, yeah, little toasty for January. The box is sealed with an O-ring, so I guess whatever heat is generated by the electronic components on the circuit board doesn't dissipate very fast with a plastic case. But, it's rated operating temp range is 4ºF to 176ºF should handle any temps RVers see. Cheers! Ray

  • @stuartstuart866
    @stuartstuart866 Рік тому +1

    This would be super handy and you would never have to wire in a soft start to any current or future RV air conditioner ever again.

  • @willymueller4587
    @willymueller4587 Рік тому +1

    Ray the Bluetooth capability of these devices blow me away, amps/volts/herz/kWh used, I could get rid of many devices, will look forward for your generator review as we both have that 2000 watt Champion

  • @jeffslater3708
    @jeffslater3708 Рік тому +1

    Excellent content!

  • @tenkaraintheiowadriftless
    @tenkaraintheiowadriftless Рік тому +1

    Very attractive option, thanks for the initial review. I’m wondering if there could be any sort of weather protection for the female plug end.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

      Good question, I'm not sure as this is the first time I've had an outside surge protector. I guess a person could use electrical tape on the seam. Maybe someone else has an answer.

  • @garryhammond3117
    @garryhammond3117 Рік тому +1

    Very useful unit - I hope it comes in at a good price point. - Cheers

  • @RVFreeDa
    @RVFreeDa Рік тому +1

    I really want one but they are so expensive. I was hoping I could find a DYI video of how to make one myself.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

      I've seen some DIY soft start builds but they are usually very basic little circuits and not able to handle the high amps RVs require.

  • @johnr5545
    @johnr5545 Рік тому +1

    Thanks nice job
    how much is the 30 amp one is
    God bless

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      I see them on Amazon for $485 amzn.to/3D5i7gU

  • @projet2907
    @projet2907 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting. Thank you Ray for this video. Can’t wait for the follow up tests. Can you lock it to the post? I just installed a soft starter last February along with a Southwire surge guard and the blue tooth monitor ,, 😥. Will you be able to see on the app how many amps it took to start the different devices ? Cheers 😊

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

      Yes, there is a double metal ring on one of the cords to be able to lock it to the post. I don't see anywhere that tells you the max start up apps it took. Cheers, Ray

  • @KevinCoop1
    @KevinCoop1 Рік тому

    Ray, When I was designing electrical systems for commercial and industrial work, once in a while a customer would request surge protection for their entire system. Could have a few or many Surge protective devices. One thing I learned was that most devices have MOV’s that are not replaceable. They typically had a light to show when the MOV had blown. The more expensive devices had surge monitoring built in. Mostly the number of strikes on a counter. Also, some can only take 1 surge and are blown. I couldn’t find this information on either of the devices. Did you ever get a E10 message on your progressive industries device? From looking at the pictures, I’m thinking they are replaceable. Just y opinion. If you have a 30 amp system in your RV, and plugged into a pedestal, there is no need for soft start. It is when you go to 15 or 20 amp or generators that they may be helpful. Thanks Ray.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      No, I haven't had an E10 that I can remember. Mostly I encounter low voltage at poorly wired parks E4
      I think the soft starter may help on shore hookup power if you are pushing the upper limits of the 30 amp max. Maybe lowering the chances of blowing the breaker when say the AC unit compressor powers on. Though breakers usually have a time delay that handles it.

  • @yankeesusa1
    @yankeesusa1 Рік тому

    Does this unit have a replacement module like the watch dog? At these prices this is really expensive to not have something like that.

  • @deddie4645
    @deddie4645 Рік тому +1

    Nice

  • @dougwilliams2890
    @dougwilliams2890 Рік тому +2

    Competition for Softstartup device.

  • @TheDefenderSisu
    @TheDefenderSisu Рік тому +1

    I live about 15 minutes away from there place, if you would like me to do video of them and send it to you let me know. I live in Miramar , Florida. You are always so helpful and have showed me so much I would like to give some back. Please let me know.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

      Sure , I'll let you know. What kind of video are you proposing?

  • @K7CARadio
    @K7CARadio Рік тому +1

    Interesting, 1 year Warranty?????, 92 F seems a bit too high for Winter temps. Let us know how it performs in Summer temps.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      The box is sealed with an O-ring for weatherproofing, so I guess whatever heat is generated by the electronic components on the circuit board doesn't dissipate very fast with a plastic case. But, it's rated operating temp range is 4ºF to 176ºF should handle any temps RVers see I'd imagine. I see on the website you can get an extra year warranty if you sign up to a newsletter, they also list a 45 day return policy. www.active-controlsllc.com/ But the company is so new, not much if track record yet to go on. Cheers, Ray

  • @SlimSh8E
    @SlimSh8E Рік тому

    I've had one of these a couple of months but have only used it a couple of times because I rely on solar when I can get it. On my last trip I was wondering how this device "soft starts" equipment such as an A/C. When I was doing my research someone suggested it was resistors which got me wondering if it could be harmful to my A/C and shorten it's life. If anyone has any knowledge about this I would be very interested in hearing your opinions. Thanks for the review, enjoyed the video.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      It's more sophisticated than just resistors. It lowers the initial amperage needed to move the AC compressor rotor or other appliance motors, so it should actually be gentler on the AC and wiring.
      Here is a PDF that explains the concept www.hypereng.com/literature/CS1629MH.pdf

    • @SlimSh8E
      @SlimSh8E Рік тому +1

      @@LoveYourRV Thanks!

  • @scottconnell8167
    @scottconnell8167 Рік тому

    Ray, isn't the overvoltage kind of high at 140 ?? My Progressive shuts off at 132
    Thank you & safe travels

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

      Does seem kind of high. I'll have to ask them why they chose that figure.

  • @coreybabcock2023
    @coreybabcock2023 Рік тому

    I saw videos on how to build your own soft starter I'll find the link and post it to your Facebook page

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, is a good explanation of the soft starter function in rudimentary form.

    • @coreybabcock2023
      @coreybabcock2023 Рік тому +1

      @@LoveYourRV agree

  • @rvfuntimes6144
    @rvfuntimes6144 Рік тому +2

    I'm afraid the portable ones will walk away. Be my Luck.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

      They have a double metal ring on one cable so it can be locked to the pole. Not much, but at least a person would need some serious wire cutters or the smarts to unscrew the box and remove one cable. I carry a 25 foot 30 amp cable but also have a 10 foot extension for various places where the power box is further away. So I think what I will do is connect it in between the two and tuck it under the rig, out of sight and weather.

    • @rvfuntimes6144
      @rvfuntimes6144 Рік тому +1

      @@LoveYourRV Thanks Ray

  • @ldcooper1
    @ldcooper1 Рік тому

    Is it CSA or UL approved? Or pending approval?

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

      Not sure, I'll have a closer look at it tomorrow and let you know.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      Had a look today and didn't see any UL or CSA labels

    • @ldcooper1
      @ldcooper1 Рік тому +1

      @@LoveYourRV thanks.
      Being that you don’t see any CSA or UL labels do you consider this a significant safety concern to you if you were to buy it?
      I feel CSA and UL labeled goods are the minimum safety standards. It’s a wee bit comforting to know there has been some 3rd party testing especially if you have an incident and are dealing with insurance companies.
      Thanks again.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      Since it's an outside device and the 30 amp cord connectors do have ETL markings, www.intertek.com/marks/etl/ I wouldn't be too concerned. Usually, the failure point is the metal connections. Even CSA/UL will melt down due to corroded plugs or loose power pedestal receptacles. Not much to go wrong inside the PVC box that I can see. There is a small circuit board, electronic components, screw terminals, and a relay, so everything is flameproof and fused. www.loveyourrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Inside-ActiveStart-30-amp.jpg I'll pass along your concern and see maybe it has been 3rd party tested. Cheers, Ray

    • @ldcooper1
      @ldcooper1 Рік тому +1

      @@LoveYourRV thanks

  • @scubieman
    @scubieman Рік тому

    I need that but hard wired!!!

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому +1

      Looks like it would be easy enough to hardwire but the spec sheet does state for outdoor use only. So guess they don't want the liability of an inside install.

    • @activecontrolsllc
      @activecontrolsllc Рік тому +1

      @@LoveYourRV That is the case. We have a version coming out that will be for hardwiring inside the RV in a metal enclosure.

  • @tonyfontana8222
    @tonyfontana8222 Рік тому

    50 amp model is $750 !

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      Pretty steep price to pay but it does have to handle two 50 amp circuits versus one 30 amp as in this model.

  • @Ifugiveubegin2live
    @Ifugiveubegin2live Рік тому

    So can this allow you use 2 ACs on a 30 amp? Thanks

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  Рік тому

      Maybe. I don't have two to test. My guess it would depend on the model and BTU rating of the ACs. It maybe will work for a pair of 13.5K BTU