The Dub made him a badass lol my favourite line is when he speaks to dartz Dartz: "only if destroying an innocent soul concerns you" Kaiba: "Nah as the president of a major company I have to do that everyday"
Also, just hilarious with the shots fired he'll make Kaiba: "And anyone who's late for registration will be disqualified. Mokuba, make sure Wheeler's late."
@SonicLegends Even in the GX dub (worst dub in the franchise), he was amazing. "If there is intelligent life out there, I say let's teach them how to duel."
Sub, dub or manga Kaiba is the GOAT. He built a soace elevator and violated theaws of life and death for a salty runback and closure to say goodbye to best friend. Although we can all agree Eric Stuart MAKES Kaiba. He just has the raw charisma to bring him to life best.
The main thing about the manga I don't like is Kaiba being a cheater. I always liked the aspect that Kaiba was an arrogant asshole with the skills to justify his arrogance. Having him be a cheater, like so many other cheaters in the yugioh series really flies in the face of that.
He's only really a cheater before the mind crush. He does threaten suicide in order to beat Yugi but that was because he believed it was the only chance he had to save his brother. Other than that, I don't believe he cheats even once. It shows that Kaiba's evil truly is gone, even if he is still a jerk and makes the DSOD movie more meaningful as Aigami/Diva still believes Kaiba is evil because he cannot see what Yami sees.
but that’s exactly what kaiba is like in the manga before he got out of his coma. kaiba was just pretty crazy and obsessed with trying to win against yugi so much at that time.
@@saklee1777 Not really. He had only one arc where he tried to get revenge and that was Death-T. In Season 0, they added new storylines where he would go after Yugi before Death-T.
Wonderful character analysis. I'm curious how you'd fit DSOD into this. I know the movie was written by Takahashi, but it almost feels like he watched the anime rather than reread his own manga. Instead of focusing on his childhood dream of amusement parks for poor children, he's still obsessed with getting his rematch with Atem. Even *after* Yugi defeats him and proves he's also surpassed him, the ending of the movie is still just a tease of him trying to settle the score with Atem Feels like it sort of ignores Kaiba's last lesson from seeing Atem vs. Marik, and he really doesn't ever learn to move on from the past despite being given reason after reason
Still, Seto Kaiba is one of my favorite characters of the original series. He's an absolute asshole who only has a deep love for a card with a history he refuses to believe in, yet, like a spoiled brat, Seto hates seeing that card be controlled by anyone except himself, and Mokuba, the only person Seto cares about in the world.
I don't think they understood why Kaiba was the way he was. And why Kaiba hates the past and destiny. Kaiba wants his achievements to be because of himself and if everything is pre determined that would invalidate his achievements and accomplishments. And if everything he and Mokuba went through was destiny I'd not be s fan of it either.
Before watching the video: Wow, that's an unexpected take. Personally, I think the anime showed a lot of favoritism towards Kaiba. He is at the focal point of the anime-exclusive (aka "filler") arcs, and he also gets a major role in the last arc, while he was completely absent from it in the manga. The exploration of his characterization from the manga (particularly the early arcs that the show skips over) is now spread out throughout the "filler" arcs, which is a treatment that other characters in the main cast did not get. So I got to wonder how exactly was Kaiba done dirty.
Kaiba was done dirty cause they messed up his character emotionally. I actually find villains that turn good rather interesting, but usually when they have those in shows and books, they don’t last long and it’s close to the end of the story. That’s why I love kaiba. Because they actually showed him really change and learn and grow.
I think YGO Duel Monsters ruins most characters' development by starting in media res. I felt that even watching as a kid. The biggest offender is Kaiba's duel against Yugi in Duelist Kingdom. Do I believe Manga Atem would be willing to kill Kaiba? yes. Season 0 Atem? Probably. I never bought that Kaiba was in serious danger from DM Atem because the antiheroic elements of his character were not adapted or seriously toned down. When they tried to go back and flesh out kaiba's backstory in the Virtual World Arc or Atem's inner darkness in Waking the Dragons, it feels like they are developing backwards.
"Why Seto Kaiba is not just a cold-hearted tycoon. While the anime presents him as a one-dimensional antagonist" You what, mate? The Toei anime, yes(though I also enjoyed just how much they played into it. He's an absolute menace and they even make it ambiguous if there is any good part of him left), but the Gallop Anime straight up tried its hardest to make him sympathetic and a legit good guy. The dimensions they stripped from him ARE specifically the ones that prevented a chunk of people from appreciating the character concept. While there is obviously a place for an actual adaptation of the manga(I mean, it is the original work afterall), I can't really see this whole idea as anything besides "Diffrent, therefore ruined". It is just another take of the same concept, one that they put a lot of effort in too since nearly every filler arc heavily depends on building up his character and giving him really juicy extra content.(Though the end of Doma kinda messes with it, but that's a "second half of Doma failing by making Kaiba Corp not actually responsible"-issue and not a Seto Kaiba-issue)
The thing is Kaiba and Yami Yuugi are both supposed to be very morally grey than straight up very good guys like the English anime portrays them to be.
@@lpfan4491 I don't get what's so funny considering the video talks about all versions. The Japanese version of the Gallop anime at least tries to keep some of their moral greyness, but not to the same extent of the manga.
After that we could get Bakura. Ryo got turned into a stalker who hides in the bushes and is constantly ignored whereas he actually does have more dialogue to him in the manga, imo knowing that Bakura is an actual person just like Yugi makes Yami Bakura’s actions hit harder but in the anime it doesn’t get nearly as much attention
I love how in the manga kaiba out right says even at his lowest he would nout want the anchor duel because ugg that duel still messed up as shows how deproved marik was at that point maenong yami marik was still constantly nocking
3:00 in season 5 ep 47 I think he did kinda accept the “geek squad” and they seemed to have a type of friendship during that part I really liked that episode like he’s kinda idk getting more comfy around them? Like he deems them to be decent
3:17 he did saw “Maybe some of this junk is true” I can tell he probably doesn’t like being wrong lol but the friend group just jokes about it as Tristan says something like “You guys hear that!” I don’t really remember the rest but Kaiba responds with “No I said its all just a magic trick” idk if he kinda had a slight laugh/sarcasm/joking tone I don’t remember it that well but the friend group responds with “Nope!” That is followed with laughter so he did kinda accept them and I find that cool idk if it was just for that one episode butttt he kinda did
during a con i found a gunpla of the blue eyes white dragon while i was tempted it was very expensive but i walked on later on in another figurine place i found the one thing that send me right back to the blue eyes white dragoon to buy it and that was a Figurine of Kaiba himself it was a chance to get them both at once since you just don't separate Kaiba from his dragon
I freaking love kaiba and loved seeing him change throughout the manga. It makes me sad that he’s out of the series after the battle City arc. Not even able to have one last goodbye to atem who was his only friend. Not even got to learn more about being the reincarnation of priest seto.
That was a fantastic analysis, though I'm surprised you didn't talk about transcend game and DSOD, as I feel like they do some very interesting things with Kaiba, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on the vague ending.
Do u realize how many times they’ve shown yugi (the real yugi, not atem) lose at a game that wasn’t duel monsters? He’s good at games and is better than his friends, but he’s no way as good as kaiba. Back before kaiba even met yugi, kaiba was #1 on every single game at the arcade.
I think the KC Grand Prix is worth bringing up in regards to Kaiba's character. In fact, except for Orichalchos, anime Kaiba actually gets a _lot_ out of the filler arcs. (The problem with Orichalchos for Kaiba is that Amelda wanted to make some big stink about Seto being like Gozuboro, where Seto was trying to explain to the painfully thick doofus that he _knew_ his stepfather was a huge piece of work and didn't need some off-brand Gundam protagonist to spell it out for him. The Orichalchos arc was such a tire-spinning waste of time in general, specifically in regards to Atem losing a duel and taking over Yugi's body for an extended period, which basically shoots Yugi's entire final duel in the foot for a number of reasons unless you mentally decanonize it. Also, poor Mai in general.)
May I ask where you got the color version of the manga? I’ve been looking around for it and had no luck! The panels look gorgeous that way, but then again, Takahashi is a highly underrated artist in general
I love your videos in english and german but it makes me lough how we german speaks english. The most time it sounds so funny 😂😂. But please go on with your videos. We need them
Thank you so much for this wonderful video! Kaiba is my absolute favorite! I love him! The seeds of change were definitely well planted by the end of the series!
IMO, the subbed and dubbed Kaibas have opposite issues. The subbed version post Battle City leans incredibly hard on Kaiba as a redeemed, honorable, heroic person, and that's just not the impression I got from how Takahashi wrote him (reinforced in DSOD): yes, he's redeemed, more honorable, and even somewhat heroic now, but he's never gonna outwardly ACT like it since that goes against his pride being a core flaw he can't get past. He wouldn't be so civil, he'll always be more tsundere about it: behaving like his usual jerkwad self while doing good in the world and respecting his worthy opponents like Yugi. The dubbed version captures his personality way better...but as this video points out, it comes at the cost of his development. Yes, it keeps him more of a jerk, but it does so in the exact same situations "rar, you're a loser", "it's all about me", "I don't believe in this mumbo-jumbo fairy tale stuff!", and it gets tiring. So in the end, neither Kaiba quite measures up to the original manga + DSOD version.
Quite frankly I didn't knew his past was this heavy and dark... So Yu-gi-oh is not about Yugi, but... Kaiba? Just like in the Matrix it's not about Neo, but agent Smith... awow... 😶🌫️
@@lpfan4491 Well, you can only really say it does if you're counting Arc-V, too. There's bad stuff for him in the later seasons GX, but he had enough good to outweigh it if you're just looking at GX.
@@raina1848 They are two diffrent characters coming from the same character template, there is about as much value in mushing them together as there is in mushing them together with the manga characters of the same japanese name. Interms of GX, Aster was not handled ideally, but there is a margin between "this could have been better" and "they messed it up".
Even the manga did him very dirty during Battle City, with him reverting some of his Duellist Kingdom character development so hard that it's noticeable even in the anime which undercut that development. Takahashi wanted him to go out on the note of one last duel against Yugi so hard that he sanded off some of his character to make it work, and he did it twice, because he also rewrote his character development from Battle City in DSoD again to force him to want a rematch. Mai says she'll comeback but the movie doesn't give her closure she desperately needs, while Kaiba had his closure ripped away from him thrice. I really want to see the duel between Yugi and Kaiba who believes in the heart of the cards, but instead we have their Coliseum duel in the finals which at least in the anime is the most boring and drawn out duel in the franchise still.
This is why I enjoy anime Kabia more tbh, cause after his defeat by Atem R3 he basically moved on with his life and by all means changed and became better even gave up dueling for a while to focus on him and his brother's dream and even by S5 GC he only dueled because he was forced to, all though he did try to duel Atem at the end of series he understood that was Yugi battle and he said to Atem something along the lines of we will do one dare if you win against Yugi. Although I hate the writing decision to write him out all the final duels against Noah and Dartz
I disagree. I think it's perfectly logical for Seto to not become the good guy immediately. He starts as absolute psycho who is fine with killing his own brother. Then he's no longer a psycho, just a little extra and very prideful. Then he channels old Seto one last time, gets crushed and hears from Yugi how for a guy who always talks about future he's awfully obsessed with the past. I think at this point his perception of Atem shifts from an enemy to a rival to a sort of friend. Which is why when Atem departs for the afterlife, Seto seems to slip back into his own persona. But this time it's not out of hatred or jealousy, but out of desperation - he wants to get his closure the only way he knows how. He doesn't hate Yugi and clearly starts to respect him after their duel (and according to Takahashi they even become soft of friends as well after the movie), but he needs to see Atem one last time to finally move on.
Haven't watched the video yet but I have to disagree with the title. The anime Kaiba is more consistent, he has goals, he even has character growth from filler like his battle with Zorc that he stated that "he won't allow someone to control humans" or when he admitted that yugi was the real deal. These moments humanize him and also make him a smarter person.
@@randomedgygamer2191 Wynaut both? But I think Zexal got it worse. 5D's dub is still watchable, just not as good. Zexal's dub was rendered unwatchable by the 4Kids dub because of Yuma's VA to such a degree that people wouldn't even watch the sub and completely wrote off the show and still trash it and Yuma as a protagonist.
@@lpfan4491eh... Yuma's voice is cancer inducing, but the Zexal dub is just .. not very good in general. It's just easy to point at that as the nain reason.
To be honest it was better. The dub plays Kaiba as a millionaire that gives no ducks to anyone besides himself but with a soft spot for his brother. A guy that knows how to be ironic and how superior he is. The Japanese 99% presents Kaiba as a villain that goes back and forward. His dialog uses ate mostly "evil guy talk".
You wish. There's no better Kaiba than Kenjiro Tsuda. Also 4kids did Kaiba even more dirty by making him an stereotypical diva that dismissed everything that happens around him as a "mInD tRiCk"
There's nothing dirty. You missed the fact that Yuugi Ou means Game King and Yami Yugi is the titular Game King who defeats enemies in various games. He's not suppose to lose. Even in his 1st duel with Pegasus, he had the game winning attack, but the timer ran out before the attack connected. That was just to get Yami Yugi to come to Duelist Kingdom. Even in the final duel vs Yugi, he outplayed Yugi. He would have won had he summoned Ra instead of Obelisk since Obelisk did 1000 dmg while Ra (6000 atk due to 3 2000 atk The Tricky) would have done 3000 dmg to drop Yugi's LP to 0, but because Atem has to lose to end the story, Takahashi makes Atem summon Obelisk to continue the game. Takahashi making Yami Yugi the Game King always meant that he could never make Yami Yugi lose naturally by being outplayed by someone. Back to rivalries. You must be blind. In every game Yami Yugi faced Kaiba, Yami Yugi had to make a comeback because Kaiba was too strong. Not once did Yami Yugi have the clear advantage. Their last duel at Alcatraz was the most even game they played as they each kept countering each other. Yami Yugi actually didn't need to make a comeback by drawing a card. He had Kaiba beat with the cards he had on his field and hand when Ultimate Dragon was summoned. As a rival, Kaiba doesn't need to win. He needs to show that he's the only one who overpowers Yami Yugi to the point he needs to bet his life on his next draw.
@@rob19ny A protagonist that's never supposed to lose is basically admitting that he has plot armor and that's never a good thing. It would be one thing if the show was more based around the fact that he never loses, but that's not the case. Why have these battles with stakes if you know he'll never lose? There's no walls to overcome and it tanks the stakes with that in mind. You know what was a good example of Yami Yugi losing? When Bakura literally took his puzzle and left him falling into a crevice. More things like should have happened throughout the series to show that the main character isn't infallable. A good opportunity to this would be losing to Kaiba fair and square in Duelist Kingdom, which wouldn't have changed much in the grander outcome because he lost that duel anyways and it would have established an air of uncertainty for the rest of that arc.
A protagonist that's never suppose to lose because they are the HERO and titular GAME KING of the story meaning the best at what they do is always a good thing. It's quite clear that you're a anime only watcher, specifically only watching the Duel Monsters anime and not starting with the original Toei anime and checking its website where they explain the Episode 1 story calling the one who awakens from the Puzzle "Yuugi Ou" (Game King), who has never read the source manga or any of Takahashi's interview. Takahashi's interview with TIME Magazine in December 2002: "TIME: How did the idea for Yu-Gi-Oh come to you? TAKAHASHI: I've always been obsessed with games. Certainly as a kid, and even today, I like blackjack and board games like Scotland Yard. In a game, the player becomes the hero. And that's the basic premise for Yu-Gi-Oh. The main character, Yugi, is a weak and childish boy who becomes a hero when he plays games. TIME: Yu-Gi-Oh has been called the next Pokemon. What has turned it into such a monstrous hit? TAKAHASHI: The thing about the card game is that you can't play by yourself. You have to play with friends. That's how it spread: one kid saying to another, let's play Yu-Gi-Oh. As far as the manga story goes, I think all kids dream of henshin -- the ability to turn into something, or someone, else. Yugi's henshin into a savvy, invincible games player is a big appeal [to children]. There's also the mystery surrounding the games and the characters on the cards. Kids like that, too." "You know what was a good example of Yami Yugi losing? When Bakura literally took his puzzle and left him falling into a crevice." The more you talk, the more you expose yourself. Thanks for confirming you also don't comprehend what you are watching. That's not a good example of losing because if you comprehended anything the story showed, you'd know at that point Zorc Necrophades said that he rewound time to help Bakura so that the true events can unfold because he (Zorc) has to face the Pharaoh at the end, but this time win in order to return to life in the modern world. The Pharaoh literally did NOT lose when Bakura took the Puzzle. Let me make it clear for you to comprehend: Yami Yugi is a hero like Superman. Superman isn't suppose to lose due to his abilities, but that doesn't mean he won't face someone multiple characters who will put him near death. That's called adversity. It happens in every story because it'd be boring if no one gave him a challenge to overcome. "A good opportunity to this would be losing to Kaiba fair and square in Duelist Kingdom, which wouldn't have changed much in the grander outcome because he lost that duel anyways and it would have established an air of uncertainty for the rest of that arc." Like I said, the more you keep talking. I told you that Yami Yugi is the Game King (the title of the series) and you still say Kaiba should defeat him fair and square. You don't even understand the impact of what you're saying. I know I'm wasting my time talking to you, but this is all for a future reader who wants to be educated. Because you haven't the source manga and only watched the butchered Duel Monsters anime that left out important story scenes, you don't know what happened to Yami Yugi after losing the timer duel to Pegasus. In the source manga, the next day at school, Yugi tells everyone in class he's not bothered by the fact his grandfather is inside of a tape. Yugi tells them he can feel Yami Yugi is depressed. Shortly after, Yugi just randomly gets up to leave the class while everyone is talking and they ask where he is going. He says Yami Yugi wants to be alone for awhile so he's going on the roof. On the roof, Yami Yugi is punching the fence and yelling Pegasus. He's pissed and hurt that he put Sugoroku (who he thinks is his grandfather at the time) in that situation. Yami Yugi then makes it his mission to defeat Pegasus and save him. Duelist Kingdom is about Yami Yugi's grief and that he's on a mission to save Sugoroku. Yugi on the other hand has not shown any emotion for his grandfather. Kaiba just woke up from his 6 month long coma a day ago. After Kaiba tried to kill everyone at Death-T 6 months prior, no one (reader) feels for him. Kaiba hasn't done anything. He literally skip to the castle. We watched Yami Yugi beat his foes to reach the castle. The most logical scenario is that Kaiba asks Yami Yugi to save Mokuba for him because Yami Yugi saved Mokuba before during Death-T and showed he cared for him, but he's Kaiba, so he won't do it because pride. Now it becomes a battle of 2 people facing each other to save a family member. Who wants it more? Kaiba has no right to outright beat Yami Yugi, the Game King, who has been on a mission to defeat every opponent to reach Pegasus. As the Game King of the story, he is only given 1 loop hole loss (timer reaching 0 before game winning attack connected). After that, he has to win all of his games to reach Pegasus, which he was going to do, but then Yugi comes out and surprises everyone but the reader by choosing to save Kaiba over his own grandfather (Yugi hadn't shown any emotion for him so its not surprising that he could make a easy decision) to add a twist to the story. By having Kaiba outright beat Yami Yugi, you negate the fact that he's the Game King and you negate his emotional journey/mission to save Sugoroku. I expect you to say "I'm not reading all of that", which is why I stated earlier this is for the future reader who wants to be educated.
Here me out. A complete new series not a remake but a more faithful adaptation of the manga. Sprinkle in a little bit of revenues to the original here and there.
Personally, I prefer anime Kaiba. It is a shame that the anime loses out on his relationship with his father, and the manga is wonderful too and connects to 0, which is great. However, manga Kaiba isn't as unique as anime Kaiba. The idea of a mostly static character that is a selfish, prideful dick sounds awful, but you can't help but love Kaiba anyway due to his execution and positive traits. He's so completely true to himself and he's slow to change because he's prideful to the point of arrogance. He's bombastic and fun and so into his own things that others end up getting into them too. Plus, he isn't a cheater so much easier to respect him. Lastly, I do think the idea of the mind crush changing Kaiba so much is ultimately a bit flawed due to being so abstract, so all things said and done I prefer pretending it did nothing.
Kaiba? The guy who got way more attention and screentime in the anime than he ever did in the manga? Done dirty? Good joke man, you had me going for a second.
@@AnimeHiro Robbed? The manga devlopment he got is still in the anime, it's just spread out more among the filler material made to give him more focus. Besides all that, you act like there's any fandom perception of Kaiba being a weaker character when even in the comments of this video that's plainly not reflected at all. Most people love anime Kaiba. The idea he was "robbed" of anything is absurd.
Well kaiba is just a rich duchbag who even steals yugi's grandpa favorite card just to get the only 3 blue eyes in the entire world. Yugi Yami/yugi moto actually has character development.
I would t call attempted murder of your brother to “brotherly love” a character growth. It’s attempted murder and he should be doing hard time Not everything deserves a redemption arc. It would have turned people away, also it’s a CHILDRENS cartoon first
Nah the manga version of Kaiba is just sloppy imo. I much prefer the anime version and Eric Stuart just made Kaiba who he is. Dude is one of the best voice actors.
The Dub made him a badass lol my favourite line is when he speaks to dartz
Dartz: "only if destroying an innocent soul concerns you"
Kaiba: "Nah as the president of a major company I have to do that everyday"
Also, just hilarious with the shots fired he'll make
Kaiba: "And anyone who's late for registration will be disqualified. Mokuba, make sure Wheeler's late."
@SonicLegends Even in the GX dub (worst dub in the franchise), he was amazing.
"If there is intelligent life out there, I say let's teach them how to duel."
@@Shugunoubro if I don't get my Kaiba IN SPACE spin off i’ll be pissed
Sub, dub or manga Kaiba is the GOAT. He built a soace elevator and violated theaws of life and death for a salty runback and closure to say goodbye to best friend.
Although we can all agree Eric Stuart MAKES Kaiba.
He just has the raw charisma to bring him to life best.
Kid Seto peacing his heart back together is heartwarming.❤
What's funny is that in the abridged Version, Kaiba ends up respecting Joey but never expressing it to the gang except for Mokuba
Abridged is fan fiction mate
he did? When?
@@Dahaka-rd6tw in the last video where Joey duels Siegfried
Honestly Joey got done dirty, he honestly needs his own series pre-GX
Nope done care.
Manga jounochi: beats up everyone.
Anime jounochi: get beaten up by keith
I don't think he was done dirty but he needed a good W in his fight with Ziggy. Or at least a battle in Pharaoh's memories.
Well, he has a lot more protagonism in YGO R if you're interested. Even using his experience with Ra's for a certain situation.
hell no jeoy jsut re on luck not skill to win has duels
The main thing about the manga I don't like is Kaiba being a cheater. I always liked the aspect that Kaiba was an arrogant asshole with the skills to justify his arrogance. Having him be a cheater, like so many other cheaters in the yugioh series really flies in the face of that.
He's only really a cheater before the mind crush. He does threaten suicide in order to beat Yugi but that was because he believed it was the only chance he had to save his brother. Other than that, I don't believe he cheats even once. It shows that Kaiba's evil truly is gone, even if he is still a jerk and makes the DSOD movie more meaningful as Aigami/Diva still believes Kaiba is evil because he cannot see what Yami sees.
How does one cheat at chess? Like - what did he over study his opponent?
@@Shugunou Didnt he cheat against Gozaburo in the chess game that led to the old man adopting him and Mokuba? Though how do you even cheat in chess?
@@730Flare That was before the mind crush when he still had his evil and that only happened in the anime.
The only time he ever cheated was against Gonzaburo when he was child and it was again for Mokuba
I didn’t know kaiba was like this in the manga. I really love his character development in the manga as he just let go after battle city
Even the season 0 anime made him just kind of an
"I'll get you next time Yugi!! >:(" kinda guy and it kinda stunk lol.
Cause it represents yin and yang. Light and dark, sun and moon. One chasing the other
@@cyberquasar2267 I mean yeah, but it was just kinda outta character
To be fair, they did a good job with making him that guy with the added episode.
but that’s exactly what kaiba is like in the manga before he got out of his coma. kaiba was just pretty crazy and obsessed with trying to win against yugi so much at that time.
@@saklee1777 Not really. He had only one arc where he tried to get revenge and that was Death-T. In Season 0, they added new storylines where he would go after Yugi before Death-T.
Lol that beginning makes me like Kaiba more. Everything with beating up Yugi's grandpa feels so justified
Amazing video! I love your analysis as a big fan of the manga and Kaiba's arc in it I was so glad to see you cover it so well! Keep up the great work!
Wonderful character analysis. I'm curious how you'd fit DSOD into this. I know the movie was written by Takahashi, but it almost feels like he watched the anime rather than reread his own manga. Instead of focusing on his childhood dream of amusement parks for poor children, he's still obsessed with getting his rematch with Atem. Even *after* Yugi defeats him and proves he's also surpassed him, the ending of the movie is still just a tease of him trying to settle the score with Atem
Feels like it sort of ignores Kaiba's last lesson from seeing Atem vs. Marik, and he really doesn't ever learn to move on from the past despite being given reason after reason
Still, Seto Kaiba is one of my favorite characters of the original series. He's an absolute asshole who only has a deep love for a card with a history he refuses to believe in, yet, like a spoiled brat, Seto hates seeing that card be controlled by anyone except himself, and Mokuba, the only person Seto cares about in the world.
I don't think they understood why Kaiba was the way he was. And why Kaiba hates the past and destiny. Kaiba wants his achievements to be because of himself and if everything is pre determined that would invalidate his achievements and accomplishments. And if everything he and Mokuba went through was destiny I'd not be s fan of it either.
@@Bastion70 I agree. Grew up with the dub, but compared to the sub and the manga, the dub version is basically a cardboard cutout of a character.
Before watching the video: Wow, that's an unexpected take. Personally, I think the anime showed a lot of favoritism towards Kaiba. He is at the focal point of the anime-exclusive (aka "filler") arcs, and he also gets a major role in the last arc, while he was completely absent from it in the manga. The exploration of his characterization from the manga (particularly the early arcs that the show skips over) is now spread out throughout the "filler" arcs, which is a treatment that other characters in the main cast did not get. So I got to wonder how exactly was Kaiba done dirty.
Kaiba was done dirty cause they messed up his character emotionally. I actually find villains that turn good rather interesting, but usually when they have those in shows and books, they don’t last long and it’s close to the end of the story. That’s why I love kaiba. Because they actually showed him really change and learn and grow.
@@saklee1777in terms of character development: Manga Kaiba > Sub Kaiba > Dub Kaiba.
I think YGO Duel Monsters ruins most characters' development by starting in media res. I felt that even watching as a kid. The biggest offender is Kaiba's duel against Yugi in Duelist Kingdom. Do I believe Manga Atem would be willing to kill Kaiba? yes. Season 0 Atem? Probably. I never bought that Kaiba was in serious danger from DM Atem because the antiheroic elements of his character were not adapted or seriously toned down. When they tried to go back and flesh out kaiba's backstory in the Virtual World Arc or Atem's inner darkness in Waking the Dragons, it feels like they are developing backwards.
Kaiba is the most fun character in duel monsters, and has the best style
"Why Seto Kaiba is not just a cold-hearted tycoon. While the anime presents him as a one-dimensional antagonist"
You what, mate? The Toei anime, yes(though I also enjoyed just how much they played into it. He's an absolute menace and they even make it ambiguous if there is any good part of him left), but the Gallop Anime straight up tried its hardest to make him sympathetic and a legit good guy. The dimensions they stripped from him ARE specifically the ones that prevented a chunk of people from appreciating the character concept.
While there is obviously a place for an actual adaptation of the manga(I mean, it is the original work afterall), I can't really see this whole idea as anything besides "Diffrent, therefore ruined". It is just another take of the same concept, one that they put a lot of effort in too since nearly every filler arc heavily depends on building up his character and giving him really juicy extra content.(Though the end of Doma kinda messes with it, but that's a "second half of Doma failing by making Kaiba Corp not actually responsible"-issue and not a Seto Kaiba-issue)
The thing is Kaiba and Yami Yuugi are both supposed to be very morally grey than straight up very good guys like the English anime portrays them to be.
@@dj_borg "english anime" Lmao
@@lpfan4491 I don't get what's so funny considering the video talks about all versions. The Japanese version of the Gallop anime at least tries to keep some of their moral greyness, but not to the same extent of the manga.
@@dj_borg The 4K version makes Seto a jerk for 95% of the runtime, the original japanese version does not. You got them reversed.
This needs to be a series. Maybe next video would be Yu-Gi-Oh! anime did Chazz dirty?
After that we could get Bakura. Ryo got turned into a stalker who hides in the bushes and is constantly ignored whereas he actually does have more dialogue to him in the manga, imo knowing that Bakura is an actual person just like Yugi makes Yami Bakura’s actions hit harder but in the anime it doesn’t get nearly as much attention
@@jahrichest Yep, exactly. Manga adaptations are amazing. Chazz goes as an unbeated duelist like Kite.
I'm excited to see that since I just started the GX manga. I been told that manga Chazz and anime Chazz is basically night and day.
@@Lucario1121 Literally! No ojamas though... ;(
@@hamzagamalelgamalIn the Manga Chazz lost to Jaden "once" and Zane.
Everyone loves Kaiba because he behaves like we would all want to.
I love how in the manga kaiba out right says even at his lowest he would nout want the anchor duel because ugg that duel still messed up as shows how deproved marik was at that point maenong yami marik was still constantly nocking
I understand that Dark Side of Dimensions was made with the manga ending in mind, so Kaiba didn't witness the duel between Yugi and Atem.
My avatar hasn't been changed ever since I made my account, because no matter how cool Yami Yugi is, Seto Kaiba is my goat.
Dude, this video was amazing. Probably the best breakdown of Kaiba’s character I have seen and shows why the manga/sub is far superior than the dub.
3:00 in season 5 ep 47 I think he did kinda accept the “geek squad” and they seemed to have a type of friendship during that part I really liked that episode like he’s kinda idk getting more comfy around them? Like he deems them to be decent
3:17 he did saw “Maybe some of this junk is true” I can tell he probably doesn’t like being wrong lol but the friend group just jokes about it as Tristan says something like “You guys hear that!” I don’t really remember the rest but Kaiba responds with “No I said its all just a magic trick” idk if he kinda had a slight laugh/sarcasm/joking tone I don’t remember it that well but the friend group responds with “Nope!” That is followed with laughter so he did kinda accept them and I find that cool idk if it was just for that one episode butttt he kinda did
Damn i didnt knew that Kaiba boy was that deep
during a con i found a gunpla of the blue eyes white dragon while i was tempted it was very expensive but i walked on later on in another figurine place i found the one thing that send me right back to the blue eyes white dragoon to buy it and that was a Figurine of Kaiba himself it was a chance to get them both at once since you just don't separate Kaiba from his dragon
He's always been one of my favorite characters!!! Definitely a badass
Love the FF VIII music selection
I freaking love kaiba and loved seeing him change throughout the manga. It makes me sad that he’s out of the series after the battle City arc. Not even able to have one last goodbye to atem who was his only friend. Not even got to learn more about being the reincarnation of priest seto.
That was a fantastic analysis, though I'm surprised you didn't talk about transcend game and DSOD, as I feel like they do some very interesting things with Kaiba, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on the vague ending.
Actually, Yugi is the king of games and would dominate monopoloy as well
Do u realize how many times they’ve shown yugi (the real yugi, not atem) lose at a game that wasn’t duel monsters? He’s good at games and is better than his friends, but he’s no way as good as kaiba. Back before kaiba even met yugi, kaiba was #1 on every single game at the arcade.
I think the KC Grand Prix is worth bringing up in regards to Kaiba's character. In fact, except for Orichalchos, anime Kaiba actually gets a _lot_ out of the filler arcs. (The problem with Orichalchos for Kaiba is that Amelda wanted to make some big stink about Seto being like Gozuboro, where Seto was trying to explain to the painfully thick doofus that he _knew_ his stepfather was a huge piece of work and didn't need some off-brand Gundam protagonist to spell it out for him. The Orichalchos arc was such a tire-spinning waste of time in general, specifically in regards to Atem losing a duel and taking over Yugi's body for an extended period, which basically shoots Yugi's entire final duel in the foot for a number of reasons unless you mentally decanonize it. Also, poor Mai in general.)
It is more the moral implications of using the money raised by atrocities.
And that part about Yugi...makes no sense tbh.
I'm Surprised that Atem didn't deliver a Punishment game for cheating.
I guess atem wanted to show kaiba that he had no chance at being able to use yugi’s grandpa’s card so he let him cheat.
Kaiba in YGO R relapses a bit and loses due to pride
Nice Hair Dork- Seto Kaiba
Screw the Rules, I have Money!!!
Kaiba Boy
When a character is perfect what development does he need, peak character
I never knew that the artwork in the manga is this good!!! They criminally downgraded it in the anime!!!
May I ask where you got the color version of the manga? I’ve been looking around for it and had no luck! The panels look gorgeous that way, but then again, Takahashi is a highly underrated artist in general
23:58 Why wasn't yugi there with atem and kaiba in the flashback to the past?
Because Yugi is has no connection to the Millennium Items and he's not a reincarnation like Seto Kaiba is.
@@rob19nyIsn't Yugi a reincarnation of Atem.
Whenever Kaiba smiles, a puppy dies...
I love your videos in english and german but it makes me lough how we german speaks english. The most time it sounds so funny 😂😂. But please go on with your videos. We need them
They didn't let Seto swear in the manga, the subbed anime did better there at least. 😂
Thank you so much for this wonderful video! Kaiba is my absolute favorite! I love him! The seeds of change were definitely well planted by the end of the series!
But yeah… The anime definitely missed a lot of important character development points from the manga. Keep up the great work.!!!!!!
Kaiba and his brother are the batman & robin of yugioh lol
I could only remember the name, Yugi as a kid.
Everybody else was just
Funny voice guy
Serious dragon guy
Toon guy
I love Kaiba he was so cool 😎
can you do a video on The Big 5?
IMO, the subbed and dubbed Kaibas have opposite issues. The subbed version post Battle City leans incredibly hard on Kaiba as a redeemed, honorable, heroic person, and that's just not the impression I got from how Takahashi wrote him (reinforced in DSOD): yes, he's redeemed, more honorable, and even somewhat heroic now, but he's never gonna outwardly ACT like it since that goes against his pride being a core flaw he can't get past. He wouldn't be so civil, he'll always be more tsundere about it: behaving like his usual jerkwad self while doing good in the world and respecting his worthy opponents like Yugi. The dubbed version captures his personality way better...but as this video points out, it comes at the cost of his development. Yes, it keeps him more of a jerk, but it does so in the exact same situations "rar, you're a loser", "it's all about me", "I don't believe in this mumbo-jumbo fairy tale stuff!", and it gets tiring. So in the end, neither Kaiba quite measures up to the original manga + DSOD version.
Osiris, better known as Slifer😂
The Executive Producer
Osiris sounds so much better
THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER
@legendarylancers7446 nah,Slifer does by a mile
@@BigDaddyRich69 Silfer the sky dragon is so mid Orisis the heavenly dragon negs it miles
Dich in englisch zu hören ist seltsam aber voll cool.😂
Eyyy Yugioh on RTL Zwei, good times
Fun fact according to the creator the dub was his favourite version of the character.
21:10 I lov how Seto both does believe that cards are just cards and talks to BEWD card.
Quite frankly I didn't knew his past was this heavy and dark... So Yu-gi-oh is not about Yugi, but... Kaiba? Just like in the Matrix it's not about Neo, but agent Smith... awow... 😶🌫️
18:36
Wait, Krillin?? This mf was dueling Yugi while waiting for the Cell Games to begin?
That was Strings in Yu-Gi-Oh.
The Bleach music ❤️
What about Yugioh R manga? He was in that too ya knoe
Yugioh R is not Canon.
@@soukenmarufwt5224 In regards to what cos I assumed it was cannon to the Manga
@@macinnes800ad they probably don’t count it as canon cause yugioh R wasn’t written by Kazuki takashi
doesnt Kaiba mean seahorse in Japanese
Now we need a video of, "How the anime did Aster dirty".
Anime of GX predates the manga.
@@SakuraAvalon What does that have to do with what I said?
It really didn't.
@@lpfan4491 Well, you can only really say it does if you're counting Arc-V, too. There's bad stuff for him in the later seasons GX, but he had enough good to outweigh it if you're just looking at GX.
@@raina1848 They are two diffrent characters coming from the same character template, there is about as much value in mushing them together as there is in mushing them together with the manga characters of the same japanese name.
Interms of GX, Aster was not handled ideally, but there is a margin between "this could have been better" and "they messed it up".
He was a jerk frome season zero only mokuba turned too a wimp in duel monsters frome a sadistic dwarf he was in season zero
Even the manga did him very dirty during Battle City, with him reverting some of his Duellist Kingdom character development so hard that it's noticeable even in the anime which undercut that development. Takahashi wanted him to go out on the note of one last duel against Yugi so hard that he sanded off some of his character to make it work, and he did it twice, because he also rewrote his character development from Battle City in DSoD again to force him to want a rematch.
Mai says she'll comeback but the movie doesn't give her closure she desperately needs, while Kaiba had his closure ripped away from him thrice.
I really want to see the duel between Yugi and Kaiba who believes in the heart of the cards, but instead we have their Coliseum duel in the finals which at least in the anime is the most boring and drawn out duel in the franchise still.
No disrespect to Kazuki Takahashi, obviously. All great manga have some bad points.
This is why I enjoy anime Kabia more tbh, cause after his defeat by Atem R3 he basically moved on with his life and by all means changed and became better even gave up dueling for a while to focus on him and his brother's dream and even by S5 GC he only dueled because he was forced to, all though he did try to duel Atem at the end of series he understood that was Yugi battle and he said to Atem something along the lines of we will do one dare if you win against Yugi. Although I hate the writing decision to write him out all the final duels against Noah and Dartz
I disagree. I think it's perfectly logical for Seto to not become the good guy immediately. He starts as absolute psycho who is fine with killing his own brother. Then he's no longer a psycho, just a little extra and very prideful. Then he channels old Seto one last time, gets crushed and hears from Yugi how for a guy who always talks about future he's awfully obsessed with the past. I think at this point his perception of Atem shifts from an enemy to a rival to a sort of friend. Which is why when Atem departs for the afterlife, Seto seems to slip back into his own persona. But this time it's not out of hatred or jealousy, but out of desperation - he wants to get his closure the only way he knows how. He doesn't hate Yugi and clearly starts to respect him after their duel (and according to Takahashi they even become soft of friends as well after the movie), but he needs to see Atem one last time to finally move on.
Haven't watched the video yet but I have to disagree with the title.
The anime Kaiba is more consistent, he has goals, he even has character growth from filler like his battle with Zorc that he stated that "he won't allow someone to control humans" or when he admitted that yugi was the real deal.
These moments humanize him and also make him a smarter person.
I´m really curious what you´re thinking after the video!
I actually agree
Also, we need a
"How the Dub ruined Zexal" video.
How the dub ruined 5ds I would say
@@randomedgygamer2191 Wynaut both?
But I think Zexal got it worse.
5D's dub is still watchable, just not as good.
Zexal's dub was rendered unwatchable by the 4Kids dub because of Yuma's VA to such a degree that people wouldn't even watch the sub and completely wrote off the show and still trash it and Yuma as a protagonist.
That's just a boring premise because it falls back to "MC voice bad". 4K zexal is really not bad at all otherwise.
@@lpfan4491eh...
Yuma's voice is cancer inducing, but the Zexal dub is just .. not very good in general. It's just easy to point at that as the nain reason.
@@tristanalain9239 Can we get any other reasons?
That's why i hate 4kids
What are you talking about, Eric Stewards portrayal of the Seto Kaiba was so iconic, arguably better then the Japanese iteration
I would not say better than the japanese but it was absolutely iconic.
To be honest it was better.
The dub plays Kaiba as a millionaire that gives no ducks to anyone besides himself but with a soft spot for his brother. A guy that knows how to be ironic and how superior he is.
The Japanese 99% presents Kaiba as a villain that goes back and forward. His dialog uses ate mostly "evil guy talk".
You wish. There's no better Kaiba than Kenjiro Tsuda. Also 4kids did Kaiba even more dirty by making him an stereotypical diva that dismissed everything that happens around him as a "mInD tRiCk"
@@GaeaRage0798 That's how kaiba acts on general
Maybe he is talking about the german dub? 🤔
Edit: nvm, he showed them speaking in english
Vrains actually did Yusaku dirty
DK Kaiba > BC Kaiba
What's dirty is the fact that he never legitimately beat Yugi. Rivalries aren't supposed to be one-sided.
There's nothing dirty. You missed the fact that Yuugi Ou means Game King and Yami Yugi is the titular Game King who defeats enemies in various games. He's not suppose to lose. Even in his 1st duel with Pegasus, he had the game winning attack, but the timer ran out before the attack connected. That was just to get Yami Yugi to come to Duelist Kingdom. Even in the final duel vs Yugi, he outplayed Yugi. He would have won had he summoned Ra instead of Obelisk since Obelisk did 1000 dmg while Ra (6000 atk due to 3 2000 atk The Tricky) would have done 3000 dmg to drop Yugi's LP to 0, but because Atem has to lose to end the story, Takahashi makes Atem summon Obelisk to continue the game. Takahashi making Yami Yugi the Game King always meant that he could never make Yami Yugi lose naturally by being outplayed by someone. Back to rivalries. You must be blind. In every game Yami Yugi faced Kaiba, Yami Yugi had to make a comeback because Kaiba was too strong. Not once did Yami Yugi have the clear advantage. Their last duel at Alcatraz was the most even game they played as they each kept countering each other. Yami Yugi actually didn't need to make a comeback by drawing a card. He had Kaiba beat with the cards he had on his field and hand when Ultimate Dragon was summoned. As a rival, Kaiba doesn't need to win. He needs to show that he's the only one who overpowers Yami Yugi to the point he needs to bet his life on his next draw.
@@rob19ny A protagonist that's never supposed to lose is basically admitting that he has plot armor and that's never a good thing. It would be one thing if the show was more based around the fact that he never loses, but that's not the case. Why have these battles with stakes if you know he'll never lose? There's no walls to overcome and it tanks the stakes with that in mind.
You know what was a good example of Yami Yugi losing? When Bakura literally took his puzzle and left him falling into a crevice. More things like should have happened throughout the series to show that the main character isn't infallable. A good opportunity to this would be losing to Kaiba fair and square in Duelist Kingdom, which wouldn't have changed much in the grander outcome because he lost that duel anyways and it would have established an air of uncertainty for the rest of that arc.
A protagonist that's never suppose to lose because they are the HERO and titular GAME KING of the story meaning the best at what they do is always a good thing. It's quite clear that you're a anime only watcher, specifically only watching the Duel Monsters anime and not starting with the original Toei anime and checking its website where they explain the Episode 1 story calling the one who awakens from the Puzzle "Yuugi Ou" (Game King), who has never read the source manga or any of Takahashi's interview.
Takahashi's interview with TIME Magazine in December 2002:
"TIME: How did the idea for Yu-Gi-Oh come to you?
TAKAHASHI: I've always been obsessed with games. Certainly as a kid, and even today, I like blackjack and board games like Scotland Yard. In a game, the player becomes the hero. And that's the basic premise for Yu-Gi-Oh. The main character, Yugi, is a weak and childish boy who becomes a hero when he plays games.
TIME: Yu-Gi-Oh has been called the next Pokemon. What has turned it into such a monstrous hit?
TAKAHASHI: The thing about the card game is that you can't play by yourself. You have to play with friends. That's how it spread: one kid saying to another, let's play Yu-Gi-Oh. As far as the manga story goes, I think all kids dream of henshin -- the ability to turn into something, or someone, else. Yugi's henshin into a savvy, invincible games player is a big appeal [to children]. There's also the mystery surrounding the games and the characters on the cards. Kids like that, too."
"You know what was a good example of Yami Yugi losing? When Bakura literally took his puzzle and left him falling into a crevice."
The more you talk, the more you expose yourself. Thanks for confirming you also don't comprehend what you are watching. That's not a good example of losing because if you comprehended anything the story showed, you'd know at that point Zorc Necrophades said that he rewound time to help Bakura so that the true events can unfold because he (Zorc) has to face the Pharaoh at the end, but this time win in order to return to life in the modern world. The Pharaoh literally did NOT lose when Bakura took the Puzzle.
Let me make it clear for you to comprehend: Yami Yugi is a hero like Superman. Superman isn't suppose to lose due to his abilities, but that doesn't mean he won't face someone multiple characters who will put him near death. That's called adversity. It happens in every story because it'd be boring if no one gave him a challenge to overcome.
"A good opportunity to this would be losing to Kaiba fair and square in Duelist Kingdom, which wouldn't have changed much in the grander outcome because he lost that duel anyways and it would have established an air of uncertainty for the rest of that arc."
Like I said, the more you keep talking. I told you that Yami Yugi is the Game King (the title of the series) and you still say Kaiba should defeat him fair and square. You don't even understand the impact of what you're saying. I know I'm wasting my time talking to you, but this is all for a future reader who wants to be educated. Because you haven't the source manga and only watched the butchered Duel Monsters anime that left out important story scenes, you don't know what happened to Yami Yugi after losing the timer duel to Pegasus. In the source manga, the next day at school, Yugi tells everyone in class he's not bothered by the fact his grandfather is inside of a tape. Yugi tells them he can feel Yami Yugi is depressed. Shortly after, Yugi just randomly gets up to leave the class while everyone is talking and they ask where he is going. He says Yami Yugi wants to be alone for awhile so he's going on the roof. On the roof, Yami Yugi is punching the fence and yelling Pegasus. He's pissed and hurt that he put Sugoroku (who he thinks is his grandfather at the time) in that situation. Yami Yugi then makes it his mission to defeat Pegasus and save him. Duelist Kingdom is about Yami Yugi's grief and that he's on a mission to save Sugoroku. Yugi on the other hand has not shown any emotion for his grandfather. Kaiba just woke up from his 6 month long coma a day ago. After Kaiba tried to kill everyone at Death-T 6 months prior, no one (reader) feels for him. Kaiba hasn't done anything. He literally skip to the castle. We watched Yami Yugi beat his foes to reach the castle. The most logical scenario is that Kaiba asks Yami Yugi to save Mokuba for him because Yami Yugi saved Mokuba before during Death-T and showed he cared for him, but he's Kaiba, so he won't do it because pride. Now it becomes a battle of 2 people facing each other to save a family member. Who wants it more? Kaiba has no right to outright beat Yami Yugi, the Game King, who has been on a mission to defeat every opponent to reach Pegasus. As the Game King of the story, he is only given 1 loop hole loss (timer reaching 0 before game winning attack connected). After that, he has to win all of his games to reach Pegasus, which he was going to do, but then Yugi comes out and surprises everyone but the reader by choosing to save Kaiba over his own grandfather (Yugi hadn't shown any emotion for him so its not surprising that he could make a easy decision) to add a twist to the story. By having Kaiba outright beat Yami Yugi, you negate the fact that he's the Game King and you negate his emotional journey/mission to save Sugoroku.
I expect you to say "I'm not reading all of that", which is why I stated earlier this is for the future reader who wants to be educated.
I agree Kaiba should've defeated Yugi at least once
@@idzmah1373 Ignorance agreeing with ignorance. A tale as old as time.
no kaiba was betrtr in anime unlie amng on let put kaiba in coma so eh cant be sued for half the arc but they keep him around in anime
Dub Kaiba is #1 > sub or manga
no he same rich guy
Here me out. A complete new series not a remake but a more faithful adaptation of the manga. Sprinkle in a little bit of revenues to the original here and there.
so what if KAIBA is a Cheater he alway is who care
Personally, I prefer anime Kaiba. It is a shame that the anime loses out on his relationship with his father, and the manga is wonderful too and connects to 0, which is great. However, manga Kaiba isn't as unique as anime Kaiba.
The idea of a mostly static character that is a selfish, prideful dick sounds awful, but you can't help but love Kaiba anyway due to his execution and positive traits. He's so completely true to himself and he's slow to change because he's prideful to the point of arrogance. He's bombastic and fun and so into his own things that others end up getting into them too. Plus, he isn't a cheater so much easier to respect him.
Lastly, I do think the idea of the mind crush changing Kaiba so much is ultimately a bit flawed due to being so abstract, so all things said and done I prefer pretending it did nothing.
What you just said applies exclusively to the 4K version, not the original version of the manga.
Kaiba? The guy who got way more attention and screentime in the anime than he ever did in the manga? Done dirty?
Good joke man, you had me going for a second.
yeah, he got screentime and attention. But his whole character development was robbed. My bro Joey got a similar fate in the anime
@@AnimeHiro Robbed? The manga devlopment he got is still in the anime, it's just spread out more among the filler material made to give him more focus.
Besides all that, you act like there's any fandom perception of Kaiba being a weaker character when even in the comments of this video that's plainly not reflected at all. Most people love anime Kaiba.
The idea he was "robbed" of anything is absurd.
What nonsense is this!
Well kaiba is just a rich duchbag who even steals yugi's grandpa favorite card just to get the only 3 blue eyes in the entire world. Yugi Yami/yugi moto actually has character development.
I would t call attempted murder of your brother to “brotherly love” a character growth. It’s attempted murder and he should be doing hard time
Not everything deserves a redemption arc. It would have turned people away, also it’s a CHILDRENS cartoon first
It really shouldn't be. The manga straight up contains a scene of someone getting their skin removed while being murdered.
Hot Take: Kaiba has done everyone dirty during Battle City and Battle City itself is the weakest Arc in Yu-Gi-Oh pre-ZeXal.
KC Grand Prix is right there btw.
0:08 cuz veryone loves dragons' friends.
Nah the manga version of Kaiba is just sloppy imo. I much prefer the anime version and Eric Stuart just made Kaiba who he is. Dude is one of the best voice actors.