When I was 17 I was a huge Walt Disney fan, I went to Disney all by myself and camped out in a tent at Fort Wilderness. I knew who everybody was in the company, then one day I was on the beach at Fort Wilderness, and I saw Dick Nunis, I went up to him introduced myself to him. He shook my hand and chatted with me for quite some time. He seemed very amazed that a young guy like me knew who he was. But at that point I've read every piece of literature there was to read on Walt Disney, Disneyland, and of course Walt Disney World. He was a very genuine man for the 10-15 minutes we talked back and forth, leaning on the post and rail fencing that divided the beach area from the rest of Fort Wilderness Resort.
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Yea, I worked at D.W. from before Opening for the next 4+ years. Roy Disney actually came to my Department prior to opening to actually meet and shake hands with every employee or Cast Members as we were called. It used to be a family company, which is how Dick Nunis grew-up in it. After that it became Corporate and by the time Michael Eisner took over he needed Disney Security to accompany him everywhere out of his office. And now they have hired Colin Kappernick to write propaganda for them. WoW!
I think Walt Disney would be rolling in this grave if he could see what his company has become. Nothing but a pusher of the LGBTQ ideology. Today, most of the people at the top of the Disney company should be arrested for child endangerment.
I was 9 when Disney opened. I was taking trains from infancy thru Orlando as the anticipation grew. We would travel from Gainesville and go to SW Florida. US 27 and the Orange groves were a thing to behold in spring when the orange blossoms bloomed.
I was born in Clearwater and lived there until i was 10. When we moved to Michigan I was told I had a southern accent. I have no trace of it now. So, now I live in Arkansas and people say they can tell I am not from around here because I don't have a southern accent.
Back in '72 I was 18 and worked as a tram operator making a big $2.15 an hour. Back then, one exasperated tourist after tired of the long lines, when the tram finally showed up, told one fellow tram driver, "You know what you can do with this tram, kid." And the response was "Sorry sir, my supervisor always told me never put a tram where I can't back it up."
My brother worked at the Crystal Palace in 1971 for $1.95 an hour and my mother for $2.35 at the Contemporary Resort. But, parking was 50 cents (today it is thirty bucks,) the monorail or the boat was $1.50 and admission was $7 a person. Ticket books were $7, and today they are not needed, but the cheapest admission is $139. You could get a room in the Contemporary for $21 a night, and today that can be $900. Many, many things have to be taken into account, but one thing is sure: prices have risen 40 times and more, but wages compared to inflation have only risen 10 times. You were much better off then.
What you can see from that is the decline of the entire country. We are not educating our children any more. All they have to know is "proper pronoun usage." We, the United States, are failing for this and many, many other reasons. Face it, my fellow Americans. It's over.
Born in 1958 and was raised in Florida for most of my life, I witnessed orange groves and vast agricultural acreage decimated and cleared for profit. True Florida will never be the same. Greed always takes and never gives back. Sad....
@Zazoo Kluk No, Disney's been destroying stuff since the 50s, possibly much longer. It's not comparable honestly. You know the famous "Jungle Cruise" ride? They stole half of it from The African Queen (Disney has openly admitted they got "inspiration" from the 1951 UA film). There's even a dispute as to whether Walt falsely took credit for Mickey (his early partner in business claimed for years afterward that HE had created him). If more people would study Disney's history, it is rather sinister and they've only gotten worse.
It's truly alarming that finding ANY criticism of the Corporate Beast that is Disney is VERY DIFFICULT to find. I don't like today's Disney, I miss old school Disney. The focus for their company is obvious, greed for more money. Once it was about providing memories for children and their families. I'm convinced that Walt would NOT agree with the direction his company has gone and continues to go.
Yeah but Ole Walt was a capitalist through and through. He was a very smart businessman and saw a niche not yet tapped into. Buying that land in Orlando is one of the shrewdest business moves ever made. But yeah, now it's up to the visitors to keep his original dream alive and make of what it was meant to be.
@@MoMoMyPup10 From what I understand, he was driven to create a place to take his two little girls. A place that was Family friendly and clean etc. He quietly bought large plots of land in Florida because he was smart enough to know that if people found out he was buying land to create what he did in California, they would over-inflate the cost of the mostly swamp land he was to buy. That was indeed smart. Walt learned with Disneyland in California that it was wise to buy more land than was needed so that we wouldn't be surrounded by "gift stores and copy cats" etc. Preserving the magic and removing folks from their reality and immersing them into his "World" meant that it would take a lot of land. They built corridors under the lands in WDW to preserve the fantasy of each by keeping the cast members out of the lands to which they did not work. Pretty smart. Walt Disney had an amazing, sometimes tragic life. He learned a lot and created a lot more. Ultimately, he was driven to give to his children and his Family that which did not exist. That is why I respect him the most.
I miss the old Florida with the roadside animal zoos/ gift shops and Six Gun Territory and Silver Springs in Ocala.. Not to mention Cyprus gardens, marine land etc etc..
You are so right. To me those places you mentioned and others like them were the character of Florida. There was certain unexplainable feeling you got, like going back into time that made visiting Florida so much fun.
@Zazoo Kluk talked with a brew guy at a brewery in Winter Park; mentioned to him about Splendid China...he was surprised hear someone mention it. Enjoyed going there...but just remember barely anybody visited.
Honestly, with the way Disney's gone in recent years (becoming a near monopoly), you wish they would somehow miraculously go bankrupt so that Florida could scrap or at least downsize that monstrosity in Orlando. Walt Disney Studios: Ruining almost everything they touch, mistreating employees and stealing ideas since 1927.
@@thunderbird1921a lot of us are not mistreated for the most part… secondly… they have not been mistreating employees since 1927… Walt Disney was a kind caring man… do you even know much about this company cuz I’ve researched this whole company up and down… and I hope to God that they never scrap Disney world and downsize it. I work in this amazing place and it is honestly the best job I have and will ever work in my entire life!!!
@@CrownedGamer101 Bravo to what you say BEFORE the passing of Walt, but you are gravely mistaken on the status of Disney today. Like a cancer it has bloomed into a horrible pox upon our society and a predator upon our children. Cancers must be removed when found out. REMOVE DISNEY.
Instead of nice Florida oranges for U.S. citizens, they ship oranges in from China of all places! It makes our country weak and dependent. I wish Disney would never have come down here.
God I miss my old Florida.Used to smell the orange blossoms in the air in the mornings going to school.Would pass by fields with Horses or crops of celery and greens. All transplants came and overcrowded and overbuilt and turned it into the cities they left. :(
I'll venture to say that the good folks that was interviewed could have ever imagined what Orlando would look like 50 years later. Since our first visit in 1977 Orlando have turned into a zoo of sorts. The Magic Kingdom was set in the middle of orange groves. Now it's set in the middle of a concrete jungle.
@@inkyguy or "conspiracy theory" and "right wing extremism" are anything that don't support and questions the narrative pushed by democrats, leftists, and mainstream media. It goes both ways, that both sides disregard anything that opposes it. Why should we make "fake news"/"conspiracy theory" so political? Why be so narrow-minded and partisan? Everyone should strive for being correct and to learn the truth about reality.
Unreal. One guy had the sense to say hey let's not pave over absolutely everything so we can keep some environmental stability here. To this day I still don't understand why booms like this are not being protected from existing residents by City councils. It is not difficult to put a tax cap on existing homes and properties. The pooping problem(too many people) in Orlando is what's causing the issues with Lake Okeechobee in part at least.
1) FLA has tax caps on increases and exemptions for full time residents 2) Water from the Orlando Metro flows north to the Atlantic via the ST John's, it doesn't flow south.
@@bvcltd.3250 Wrong! The beginnings of The Everglades start in Kissimmee, right where Disney world is. Most of the area was swamp and orange groves. Most of that water used to flow south to Lake Okeechobee and the everglades.
That Carl Langford guy sure is smug. Him and Orlando city officials always wanted big growth to come- and they couldn't give two cahoots on what that would do in the long term (which is a ruined quality of life and loss of Orlando truly being "The City Beautiful.")
How prophetic. Mr. “Greenbelt” nailed it but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out how it is gonna turn out. What a mess central Florida is now.
It is quite disturbing that as every town grows into a city that it then turns into a hood. To me the main problem was the roadways were never designed to handle that kind of volume and traffic, and it will always be a nightmare getting in and out and through there. "Build it and they will come" has relevancy other than baseball!
In defense of the Orange Grove professor. Orange county has huge water problems. They wanted us (Jacksonville, FL) to pipe water to Orlando. We were like no way!
And then there's Manhattan which has gone bad shit crazy, I swear they have no idea what they are doing anymore, just building glass sticks every minute, I think there's..say? 23 buildings that are glass and tall going up right now... Maddening.
Born and raised in Orlando, watched Disney World being built, there on opening day with family. Then when we were fourteen, we moved up north to the "rust belt". The difference was like being on two different planets.
The media doing what they do best, stirring up controversies where there is no controversy! So they can increase their ratings, they search to find anything they can twist. I-4 was already open, the roads in and out of Disney were all 4 lane roads leading up to the Magic Kingdom parking lot, but they showed a traffic jam outside of disney on a 2 lane road.
$149 a day to get in to Disney now (for Florida residents). Disney pays minimum wages (literally), sounds like the experiment didn't work out well for Orlando or the environment.
Florida has been whoring its land for decades. My family would take the Turnpike from Miami to Orlando, when we’d visit Disney World in the 70s and 80s, and you’d see nothing but trees, grass and other vegetation. Now you take that road, and some of that land has been built up. Everywhere in this state there is construction. I believe that in 100 years the entire state will be built up.
That's every state. There is always a need for more housing and jobs. Populations grow. Nobody wants to live in tiny 50's tract houses. Always been mystified when people that do not own a piece of land grouse about how the owners use it. Politicians always have to look for ways to up the tax base because this country seems hell-bent on providing cradle to grave welfare.
Wonder why florida is getting so hot cause everyone gotta have a air-conditioned mansion and 2 people only live in it. And then build the houses as close as possible to each other.
To blame Disney for grifters and conmen in Florida is laughable. Florida is notable for these type of people. Just read any Carl Hiasson book. South Florida is worst because of the people that have retired from New York City. I remember Florida pre-Disney. We used to vacation in Daytona Beach every summer when I was a kid. My grandparents used to go to Kissimmee in the winter. Disney World was just as much an attraction when is was being built. I remember my grandmother talking about it and as I remember it they were giving tours of the progress before the opening during the construction.
Companies always talk about bringing jobs and then you find out the majority are these low paying, low benefit, high stress shit jobs that no one wants to do very long. Used to have a friend that worked at Disney during the day and slept in her car at night all so she could work at the "happiest place on Earth."
I work at the Magic Kingdom at Disney World and I personally love it. I work many long hours per week and it does get exhausting but I wouldn’t trade it for anything in the world
Any change as big as this was would inevitably be good for some and bad for others. And I have no doubt that a down side came along with the prosperity. From the other end of the country I couldn't say how they dealt with any problems over the decades. But 50 years later I don't imagine that most people, including Floridians, really wish that Disney had never come there.
I'm not against progress and enjoyed Disney World growing up, but it's sad to hear about the negative impact its opening had on long- time residents of Central Florida. I used to live in Orlando and new people that lived there a long time that hated Disney World for it.
@@OrlandoStreets good point, but i was referring to people who lived there that enjoyed it as a small community that now see it as the growing center of activity it is now, and seeing all the nature bulldozed for progress.
@@Rossturnerphoto There are still plenty of small towns in Florida that are more rural that they could move to, and I'm sure there were even more back in the early '70's. The thing to consider though is that there aren't as many jobs available in those areas and not as much to do for fun. Disney World changed that by coming to Orlando. It seems like it's hard to have both. I grew up in a small town, but it was known as a low income area because there weren't many jobs available. Many people commuted over a half hour drive every day to a larger city to have employment.
Mike Wallace: You do have your detractors about what goes on outside. Dick Nunis: In California, dope's on the downslide, and kids are going back to beer. On the East Coast, it's on the upswing. Everyone wants more money for their staff, so they point out all the negatives. He would have given today's Disney PR department a collective aneurysm with that answer. I get the point he's trying to make, but essentially calling local charities greedy when you're freakin' Disney is... something else.
October 1971. 72 was the first summer that people would be taking their family vacations there. I was there in 72 and it was very different from today.
Want there a part two of this? I cant find a before disney video from 69 that had interviews with locals who talked about everything from epcot to crime to realestate
Well, Disney World used to be nice, but the $112 ticket price for adults and the $20 parking fee is not that great. The whole area is one huge congested traffic disaster.
Guess what. It's more than that already!!!! I guess parents took me enough that about once a year or so trip when Space Mountain built I'd already been there. Means parents did take me at beginning then.
It's called progress. It's been 50 years. The infrastructure and industry that's grown up there would never have happened otherwise. I think the pain of its absence is probably being felt rather acutely these past few months. And, as far as traffic, man...there's nothing to complain about in Orlando compared to other parts of the country.
I visited DW the year it opened. I've been back many times. i refuse to go now as they nickel and dime you to death. They'd charge for air and water if they could get away with it. Corporate Greed and lack of vission is Disney's huge problem and it might kill them off in time.
It's very interesting that there is so much talk about "clean people" vs. "people who bring problems". Yes. Agreed. I would venture to say that on ANY Disney property, there is virtually no crime (except for the occasional bathroom/attraction drug use and store theft. But, that's what Disney security is for). If you do do ANYTHING on Disney property, lord help you. Sheriffs SURROUND Disney Springs. Many, many of them. I live in Celebration. I isn't perfect, but, it's perfect enough. There is no perfect place to live. EVERYWHERE has its ups and its downs. Celebration is very, very quiet and out of the way. Like anywhere else Disney dreamt up, it's an entire world unto its own. I can absolutely focus on what I need to, without helicopters flying overhead, police driving down the street, etc... It really is lovely. Walt Disney World is an absolute miracle, unto itself. I am extremely blessed to be here. I would venture to say that there is no better place in the world to live.
@@jacksonplaysgames2422 I’m jealous. I have had the opportunity to tour a model home. Needless to say, you won’t be disappointed. The security is, quite obviously, world class. I have a goal, for my company, for over the next 5 years, to obtain a home there and to turn about 3/4 of it into a studio, for Pazzaria Productions. We’ll see what happens. As a sidenote, I have also dined at the Four Seasons on that property. The views and food were, of course, amazing. Take care!
I live in seattle , this is like our situation with Amazon except 50 years later....what does it matter if we have lots of jobs but none of them pay well enough to pay rent?
No one forced the farmers to sell out. I mean they complained and did nothing about it. Greenbelt had to do what he did to save the ecosystem. It still wasn't enough. What a mess.
2024 and nothing has changed about the traffic!! 3 weeks ago i took US192 east to Melbourne, off i-4 and it was a NIGHTMARE!! Going through Kissimmee and St. Cloud was shocking from the last time in 1978 doing the same exact travel. Orlando and all its surrounding area, can only blame the city planners for being 10 years behind the time! Thanks to Gov. DeSantis Disney is finally paying there fair share!!
I visited old Florida back in the 60s before all the Disney BS and old, family attractions still existed. It was a quaint, peaceful charming place back then. Not the over congested concrete covered orange grove tourist destination it's become
Ruined that part of Florida, no question about it. Traffic, pollution, destroyed habitat...opened flood gates for developers. Masses moved right in...nightmare.
People & agriculture pollution (& companies like nestle, phosphate mining in some areas) ruined FL. Mostly people, aiding in developing over and not caring about the natural beauty of this state, and especially snow birds (traffic gets exponentially heavier and worse drivers in winter for 2 or 3 months). Tho disney is a cringe tourist trap mostly, probably ruined traffic & Orlando/ Kissimmee area in general
I stayed at the contemporary in 75...age 13.... just couldn’t get over that monorail going right through the hotel
way cool
I feel the same way. I went in 77 and I was nine years old. I felt I was in another planet in in the distant future. Unforgettable. ❤
When I was 17 I was a huge Walt Disney fan, I went to Disney all by myself and camped out in a tent at Fort Wilderness. I knew who everybody was in the company, then one day I was on the beach at Fort Wilderness, and I saw Dick Nunis, I went up to him introduced myself to him. He shook my hand and chatted with me for quite some time. He seemed very amazed that a young guy like me knew who he was. But at that point I've read every piece of literature there was to read on Walt Disney, Disneyland, and of course Walt Disney World. He was a very genuine man for the 10-15 minutes we talked back and forth, leaning on the post and rail fencing that divided the beach area from the rest of Fort Wilderness Resort.
Yea, I worked at D.W. from before Opening for the next 4+ years. Roy Disney actually came to my Department prior to opening to actually meet and shake hands with every employee or Cast Members as we were called. It used to be a family company, which is how Dick Nunis grew-up in it. After that it became Corporate and by the time Michael Eisner took over he needed Disney Security to accompany him everywhere out of his office. And now they have hired Colin Kappernick to write propaganda for them. WoW!
I think Walt Disney would be rolling in this grave if he could see what his company has become. Nothing but a pusher of the LGBTQ ideology. Today, most of the people at the top of the Disney company should be arrested for child endangerment.
The first and last time you'll ever hear a Disney Executive say, "...kids, thank god, are going back to beer."
😅🤣 I laughed so hard at that
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I was looking for this comment and it was right at the top 😂
I was 9 when Disney opened. I was taking trains from infancy thru Orlando as the anticipation grew. We would travel from Gainesville and go to SW Florida. US 27 and the Orange groves were a thing to behold in spring when the orange blossoms bloomed.
Those groves no longer exist. Disney killed them.
@@Richard-f7q Seems like another life ago. We got faked out by some kind a evil. take care.
It's nice to hear so many southern accents back then in central Florida!
I know but if you go out to places like Polk County there’s still plenty of Southern accents.
So far gone sadly destroyed by Yankees
I was born in Clearwater and lived there until i was 10. When we moved to Michigan I was told I had a southern accent. I have no trace of it now. So, now I live in Arkansas and people say they can tell I am not from around here because I don't have a southern accent.
@@rustyshackleford4046 My brother in law is one. Born and raised in Safety Harbor and now lives is Port Richey.
lol... the accents are still southern........ way southern.... way way southern....South America... :(
Thanks for the video. I love watching history while it was happening.
Back in '72 I was 18 and worked as a tram operator making a big $2.15 an hour. Back then, one exasperated tourist after tired of the long lines, when the tram finally showed up, told one fellow tram driver, "You know what you can do with this tram, kid." And the response was "Sorry sir, my supervisor always told me never put a tram where I can't back it up."
My brother worked at the Crystal Palace in 1971 for $1.95 an hour and my mother for $2.35 at the Contemporary Resort. But, parking was 50 cents (today it is thirty bucks,) the monorail or the boat was $1.50 and admission was $7 a person. Ticket books were $7, and today they are not needed, but the cheapest admission is $139. You could get a room in the Contemporary for $21 a night, and today that can be $900. Many, many things have to be taken into account, but one thing is sure: prices have risen 40 times and more, but wages compared to inflation have only risen 10 times. You were much better off then.
The guy needs a brain. WHAT is the point of complaining to a kid that works for slave labor when he should complain to upper executives??
People were so much more articulate back then.
They were actually educated, had morals, and had brain cells. Today’s society is half brain dead. Sad!
They also could answer and take longer than 10 seconds - this was the pre-sound-bite world!
What you can see from that is the decline of the entire country. We are not educating our children any more. All they have to know is "proper pronoun usage." We, the United States, are failing for this and many, many other reasons. Face it, my fellow Americans. It's over.
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
People are Strange.
Disney destroyed what was once a nice, beautiful city.
Hey, that could be a song.
Born in 1958 and was raised in Florida for most of my life, I witnessed orange groves and vast agricultural acreage decimated and cleared for profit. True Florida will never be the same. Greed always takes and never gives back. Sad....
ANOTHER thing that Disney has destroyed. Seriously, almost everything they touch, they ruin.
@Zazoo Kluk No, Disney's been destroying stuff since the 50s, possibly much longer. It's not comparable honestly. You know the famous "Jungle Cruise" ride? They stole half of it from The African Queen (Disney has openly admitted they got "inspiration" from the 1951 UA film). There's even a dispute as to whether Walt falsely took credit for Mickey (his early partner in business claimed for years afterward that HE had created him). If more people would study Disney's history, it is rather sinister and they've only gotten worse.
My dad told me years ago about how he remembered Disney land having cattle on it.
The orange groves were planted by farmers for pure profit. Not charity or goodwill.
It's not greed, it is population growth. Supply and demand. Happens all around planet earth.
Florida before Disney was a much better place
Much Better!
Of course!! People put money ahead of any thing good!
It's truly alarming that finding ANY criticism of the Corporate Beast that is Disney is VERY DIFFICULT to find. I don't like today's Disney, I miss old school Disney. The focus for their company is obvious, greed for more money. Once it was about providing memories for children and their families. I'm convinced that Walt would NOT agree with the direction his company has gone and continues to go.
Yeah but Ole Walt was a capitalist through and through. He was a very smart businessman and saw a niche not yet tapped into. Buying that land in Orlando is one of the shrewdest business moves ever made. But yeah, now it's up to the visitors to keep his original dream alive and make of what it was meant to be.
@@MoMoMyPup10 From what I understand, he was driven to create a place to take his two little girls. A place that was Family friendly and clean etc.
He quietly bought large plots of land in Florida because he was smart enough to know that if people found out he was buying land to create what he did in California, they would over-inflate the cost of the mostly swamp land he was to buy. That was indeed smart. Walt learned with Disneyland in California that it was wise to buy more land than was needed so that we wouldn't be surrounded by "gift stores and copy cats" etc. Preserving the magic and removing folks from their reality and immersing them into his "World" meant that it would take a lot of land.
They built corridors under the lands in WDW to preserve the fantasy of each by keeping the cast members out of the lands to which they did not work.
Pretty smart.
Walt Disney had an amazing, sometimes tragic life. He learned a lot and created a lot more. Ultimately, he was driven to give to his children and his Family that which did not exist. That is why I respect him the most.
@@stevealaska73 Can you please explain? Walt Disney and his wife had 2 children
@@Disneyfan1955 Explain what exactly? I thought I laid it out pretty clearly along with mentioning his two daughters. What did you miss?
Facts, especially with thier new ceo he is destroying it
I miss the old Florida with the roadside animal zoos/ gift shops and Six Gun Territory and Silver Springs in Ocala.. Not to mention Cyprus gardens, marine land etc etc..
You are so right. To me those places you mentioned and others like them were the character of Florida. There was certain unexplainable feeling you got, like going back into time that made visiting Florida so much fun.
yeah, more fun in pre corporate control days.
@Zazoo Kluk talked with a brew guy at a brewery in Winter Park; mentioned to him about Splendid China...he was surprised hear someone mention it.
Enjoyed going there...but just remember barely anybody visited.
More fun back then. Weeki Wachee!
Mystery Funhouse Six Gun Territory
I didn't realize how beautiful that land was before Disneyworld developed it -
Honestly, with the way Disney's gone in recent years (becoming a near monopoly), you wish they would somehow miraculously go bankrupt so that Florida could scrap or at least downsize that monstrosity in Orlando. Walt Disney Studios: Ruining almost everything they touch, mistreating employees and stealing ideas since 1927.
@@thunderbird1921a lot of us are not mistreated for the most part… secondly… they have not been mistreating employees since 1927… Walt Disney was a kind caring man… do you even know much about this company cuz I’ve researched this whole company up and down… and I hope to God that they never scrap Disney world and downsize it. I work in this amazing place and it is honestly the best job I have and will ever work in my entire life!!!
@@thunderbird1921 Don't forget the corruption of children with their zeal for LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ+-÷ that is out of control.
@@CrownedGamer101 Bravo to what you say BEFORE the passing of Walt, but you are gravely mistaken on the status of Disney today. Like a cancer it has bloomed into a horrible pox upon our society and a predator upon our children. Cancers must be removed when found out. REMOVE DISNEY.
@@Dallas_K very insensitive. This is my job.
Man did these guys predict the future of central florida. All the groves are gone
Instead of nice Florida oranges for U.S. citizens, they ship oranges in from China of all places! It makes our country weak and dependent. I wish Disney would never have come down here.
God I miss my old Florida.Used to smell the orange blossoms in the air in the mornings going to school.Would pass by fields with Horses or crops of celery and greens. All transplants came and overcrowded and overbuilt and turned it into the cities they left. :(
I'll venture to say that the good folks that was interviewed could have ever imagined what Orlando would look like 50 years later. Since our first visit in 1977 Orlando have turned into a zoo of sorts. The Magic Kingdom was set in the middle of orange groves. Now it's set in the middle of a concrete jungle.
8:16 "Kids thank god are going back to drinking beer" ?!?!? What?
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Beer is a gateway drink...
He was talking about how California back then was reporting that drug use was decreasing and kids were returning back to beer from other drugs.
then CA legalized and collected more taxes than FLA and Disney?
RobRamdisk IKR I thought I heard that🤦🏽♀️😂
And, almost 50 years later, the majority of WDW property is still undeveloped, with lots of space for the local wildlife to flourish.
It's something like 10-12% developed, right?
leave it to 60 minutes to find the cloud in the sky and act like it is the entire sky
Fake news was even around in the 70's
@@joedzny how about 3:00 - wanna guess what day that "one day" was?
@@joedzny”Fake news” is merely anything that doesn’t conform to right wing dogma or raises any troubling questions when a Republican is in charge.
@@inkyguy or "conspiracy theory" and "right wing extremism" are anything that don't support and questions the narrative pushed by democrats, leftists, and mainstream media.
It goes both ways, that both sides disregard anything that opposes it. Why should we make "fake news"/"conspiracy theory" so political? Why be so narrow-minded and partisan? Everyone should strive for being correct and to learn the truth about reality.
Tell me you're not from central florida without telling me, everything they warned about has come true 50 years later
Unreal. One guy had the sense to say hey let's not pave over absolutely everything so we can keep some environmental stability here. To this day I still don't understand why booms like this are not being protected from existing residents by City councils. It is not difficult to put a tax cap on existing homes and properties. The pooping problem(too many people) in Orlando is what's causing the issues with Lake Okeechobee in part at least.
1) FLA has tax caps on increases and exemptions for full time residents 2) Water from the Orlando Metro flows north to the Atlantic via the ST John's, it doesn't flow south.
@@bvcltd.3250 Wrong!
The beginnings of The Everglades start in Kissimmee, right where Disney world is.
Most of the area was swamp and orange groves. Most of that water used to flow south to Lake Okeechobee and the everglades.
I can't say wdw is all bad. Through the years it has brought so many memories to my family. But,yes,it changed the landscape forever.
It has ruined Florida
what a blow that was to the natural environment and ecosystems.
Tony Chavez you said it
Florida was a paradise.
Now look at today. It's sad
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing!
That Carl Langford guy sure is smug. Him and Orlando city officials always wanted big growth to come- and they couldn't give two cahoots on what that would do in the long term (which is a ruined quality of life and loss of Orlando truly being "The City Beautiful.")
Langford moved to North Carolina when he retired, but then came right back.
Was that the sound of an iPhone 📱??
I literally checked to see if I got a message or email...😅
lol
Likely a blip in the old film soundtrack.
Beer is a gateway drink! (8:16)
Who knew Professor Von Honeydew was mayor of Orlando.
Bunsen Honeydew maybe?
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@@AcmeRacing 🤣
How prophetic. Mr. “Greenbelt” nailed it but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out how it is gonna turn out. What a mess central Florida is now.
low tax utopia until visitors stop coming to pay taxes
It is quite disturbing that as every town grows into a city that it then turns into a hood. To me the main problem was the roadways were never designed to handle that kind of volume and traffic, and it will always be a nightmare getting in and out and through there. "Build it and they will come" has relevancy other than baseball!
LOL ... commufornia is your Utopia.
Where's the mess?
@@OrlandoStreets where isn't the mess.
2:28 Leave it freakin' Mike Wallace to bring up Reedy Creek fifty years ago!!!
A Plastic Hell full of cheesy disingenuous smiles, synthetic merchandise, heart-attack inducing food and bank breaking expense
and now unhinged Disney adults on booze and xanax
In defense of the Orange Grove professor. Orange county has huge water problems. They wanted us (Jacksonville, FL) to pipe water to Orlando. We were like no way!
Cities like Orlando and Tampa have grown and the smaller cities up north are dying going back to nature throughout the rust belt.
And then there's Manhattan which has gone bad shit crazy, I swear they have no idea what they are doing anymore, just building glass sticks every minute, I think there's..say? 23 buildings that are glass and tall going up right now... Maddening.
Born and raised in Orlando, watched Disney World being built, there on opening day with family. Then when we were fourteen, we moved up north to the "rust belt". The difference was like being on two different planets.
OMG people were thin back then, did anybody else notice??
@James Harold F A T dwarfs with butt, tit and lip implants! : l
the women wore girdles then
I can't imagine wearing a dress and heels, and you know there was pantyhose involved! I barely allow it when Dapper Day comes around!
thin and well dressed!
@@RTCMAHL I remember dressing up to go to the movies or out to sit down restaurant.
The media doing what they do best, stirring up controversies where there is no controversy! So they can increase their ratings, they search to find anything they can twist. I-4 was already open, the roads in and out of Disney were all 4 lane roads leading up to the Magic Kingdom parking lot, but they showed a traffic jam outside of disney on a 2 lane road.
"No one goes there any more, it's too crowded" - Yogi Berra
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I wouldn't say no one goes there anymore if it's too crowded. Lol
But I will say it's a complete dump. It's too stuffy for me.
Too many people still go here😅 trust me I know😅
Yogi made a Boo Boo.
$149 a day to get in to Disney now (for Florida residents). Disney pays minimum wages (literally), sounds like the experiment didn't work out well for Orlando or the environment.
That is crazy prices. I remember when it was like $50
I remember when it was $25 in the 1980s.
I pay $360/year for an annual pass allowing weekday use, with free parking
I didn’t realize that Disneyland was b4 Disney world!
20 years before!
4:54 really great segment on environmental changes from development
It did help the Florida economy.
Made Florida rich. But happier?
5:05. Well. He came close!!
Florida has been whoring its land for decades. My family would take the Turnpike from Miami to Orlando, when we’d visit Disney World in the 70s and 80s, and you’d see nothing but trees, grass and other vegetation. Now you take that road, and some of that land has been built up. Everywhere in this state there is construction. I believe that in 100 years the entire state will be built up.
@First Last Miami is just like Hong Kong. Small one bedroom apartments going for almost $2000 a month.
That's every state. There is always a need for more housing and jobs. Populations grow. Nobody wants to live in tiny 50's tract houses. Always been mystified when people that do not own a piece of land grouse about how the owners use it. Politicians always have to look for ways to up the tax base because this country seems hell-bent on providing cradle to grave welfare.
In the process destroying what made Florida unique, its natural habitats.
I remember that too. Little family small farms here and there. It was one pretty ride. Now a fast lane with distant memories.
Wonder why florida is getting so hot cause everyone gotta have a air-conditioned mansion and 2 people only live in it. And then build the houses as close as possible to each other.
To blame Disney for grifters and conmen in Florida is laughable. Florida is notable for these type of people. Just read any Carl Hiasson book. South Florida is worst because of the people that have retired from New York City. I remember Florida pre-Disney. We used to vacation in Daytona Beach every summer when I was a kid. My grandparents used to go to Kissimmee in the winter. Disney World was just as much an attraction when is was being built. I remember my grandmother talking about it and as I remember it they were giving tours of the progress before the opening during the construction.
Valid point! "Build it and they will come" took on another meaning besides baseball 50 years ago.
Its essential I hope to see its park at least once before I die. With my kids and grandkids. Always wanted a Disney wedding
You GOT to go man. It's commonly said that Disney is just for kids but I've seen adults, grown men even crying after the finale of Happily Ever After.
Please come! I’m a Disney world employee!! We would love to have you at the Magic Kingdom!! You gotta go at least once… it’s an amazing place!
Processing kids is the game now with Disney. LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ+-÷ agenda rules there.
Companies always talk about bringing jobs and then you find out the majority are these low paying, low benefit, high stress shit jobs that no one wants to do very long. Used to have a friend that worked at Disney during the day and slept in her car at night all so she could work at the "happiest place on Earth."
Need unions. If you don't have a union, you get screwed
@@PolarcupcheckDisney now has unions
I work at the Magic Kingdom at Disney World and I personally love it. I work many long hours per week and it does get exhausting but I wouldn’t trade it for anything in the world
@@CrownedGamer101 Should get those hours down. You can't keep that up forever.
@@Polarcupcheck I don’t want the hours down… I love working here… I have nothing to do at home… working here is my hobby😅😂😂
Any change as big as this was would inevitably be good for some and bad for others. And I have no doubt that a down side came along with the prosperity. From the other end of the country I couldn't say how they dealt with any problems over the decades. But 50 years later I don't imagine that most people, including Floridians, really wish that Disney had never come there.
I'm not against progress and enjoyed Disney World growing up, but it's sad to hear about the negative impact its opening had on long- time residents of Central Florida. I used to live in Orlando and new people that lived there a long time that hated Disney World for it.
If they sold they would have made a killing on their investment. Why feel sorry for them?
@@OrlandoStreets good point, but i was referring to people who lived there that enjoyed it as a small community that now see it as the growing center of activity it is now, and seeing all the nature bulldozed for progress.
@@Rossturnerphoto Yeah, that makes sense.
Not to mention the negative i.pact of the current woke agenda pushed there and their predatory lust for children.
@@Rossturnerphoto There are still plenty of small towns in Florida that are more rural that they could move to, and I'm sure there were even more back in the early '70's. The thing to consider though is that there aren't as many jobs available in those areas and not as much to do for fun. Disney World changed that by coming to Orlando. It seems like it's hard to have both. I grew up in a small town, but it was known as a low income area because there weren't many jobs available. Many people commuted over a half hour drive every day to a larger city to have employment.
Wow. Wonder what these persons interviewed in this would think of the County now a days
They are already turning in their graves.
Mike Wallace: You do have your detractors about what goes on outside.
Dick Nunis: In California, dope's on the downslide, and kids are going back to beer. On the East Coast, it's on the upswing. Everyone wants more money for their staff, so they point out all the negatives.
He would have given today's Disney PR department a collective aneurysm with that answer. I get the point he's trying to make, but essentially calling local charities greedy when you're freakin' Disney is... something else.
I wonder how many locals were pissed off at Walt for this? I also wonder how many packed their bags and left Florida after this?
What did they expect Disney to do, pack up and leave?
Now Disney is a multi billion dollar brand. I’ve been to disneyworld it was fun but I don’t think it’s worth spending a small fortune every weekend.
the mayor was getting his pockets lined
Walt Disney World opened in 1971. 1972 was post Disney. Not sure why this is titled the way it is.
I think because the film was produced in 1972...
October 1971. 72 was the first summer that people would be taking their family vacations there. I was there in 72 and it was very different from today.
Want there a part two of this? I cant find a before disney video from 69 that had interviews with locals who talked about everything from epcot to crime to realestate
1:53 30k/day. Now that's pandemic attendance
First sip of coffee @2:22
Well, Disney World used to be nice, but the $112 ticket price for adults and the $20 parking fee is not that great. The whole area is one huge congested traffic disaster.
Yes, unfortunately the population grew so fast that the area infrastructure construction could not keep up with the vast influex of people.
Guess what. It's more than that already!!!! I guess parents took me enough that about once a year or so trip when Space Mountain built I'd already been there. Means parents did take me at beginning then.
take the back entrance on 429, don't take I4
And if you buy a tiny key chain it's like 20 dollars! : l
It's called progress. It's been 50 years. The infrastructure and industry that's grown up there would never have happened otherwise. I think the pain of its absence is probably being felt rather acutely these past few months. And, as far as traffic, man...there's nothing to complain about in Orlando compared to other parts of the country.
# save the orange trees and polar bears
Screw the polar bears.
I remember seeing the plans before Disney World was built and the amount of wetlands that was planned to be eliminated was really worrisome
Wow....Nunis aged way better later on...
Disney was a Great Talented Man....Pure Americana success Story....
"Is Disney a good addition?"
"No, because they won't give us free money."
Processing children is their game.
60 Minutes was doing hit pieces on capitalism and development back in the 1970s too.
Somethings never change!
I visited DW the year it opened. I've been back many times. i refuse to go now as they nickel and dime you to death. They'd charge for air and water if they could get away with it. Corporate Greed and lack of vission is Disney's huge problem and it might kill them off in time.
This guy knew early on that the Florida man was going to be born at Walt Disney World.
It was a great time,a time when we had CARS!!!
Ideal weather if you like constant heat, humidity, bugs, and the daily thunderstorm rain deluge. No thanks I need 4 seasons.
Four seasons mean Snow!
Magic Kingdom 1971
Epcot Center 1982
Disney/MGM Studios (now Disney Hollywood Studios) 1989
Disney's Animal Kingdom 1998
One day they'll fix the traffic issue.
They're building Brightline train station, so that should help. I would gladly drive to Palm Beach to board then ride the train into Orlando.
It's very interesting that there is so much talk about "clean people" vs. "people who bring problems".
Yes. Agreed. I would venture to say that on ANY Disney property, there is virtually no crime (except for the occasional bathroom/attraction drug use and store theft. But, that's what Disney security is for).
If you do do ANYTHING on Disney property, lord help you.
Sheriffs SURROUND Disney Springs. Many, many of them.
I live in Celebration. I isn't perfect, but, it's perfect enough.
There is no perfect place to live. EVERYWHERE has its ups and its downs.
Celebration is very, very quiet and out of the way. Like anywhere else Disney dreamt up, it's an entire world unto its own.
I can absolutely focus on what I need to, without helicopters flying overhead, police driving down the street, etc... It really is lovely.
Walt Disney World is an absolute miracle, unto itself.
I am extremely blessed to be here. I would venture to say that there is no better place in the world to live.
About to get a house in golden oaks glad someone else loves the magic as much as my family does
@@jacksonplaysgames2422 I’m jealous. I have had the opportunity to tour a model home. Needless to say, you won’t be disappointed.
The security is, quite obviously, world class.
I have a goal, for my company, for over the next 5 years, to obtain a home there and to turn about 3/4 of it into a studio, for Pazzaria Productions.
We’ll see what happens.
As a sidenote, I have also dined at the Four Seasons on that property. The views and food were, of course, amazing.
Take care!
@@pazzariatv thanks great to know hope you Can get a home there eventually
@@jacksonplaysgames2422
Thank you, sir.
Have a great one!
@@pazzariatv you to
I live in seattle , this is like our situation with Amazon except 50 years later....what does it matter if we have lots of jobs but none of them pay well enough to pay rent?
10:39 Arlanda
If that Major could only see what a cesspool Orange county has become. And he's was a great contributor to it.
The mayor smoking his pipe 🤣
No one forced the farmers to sell out. I mean they complained and did nothing about it. Greenbelt had to do what he did to save the ecosystem. It still wasn't enough. What a mess.
Universal studios set up rival amusement park on both coasts
I'm a big fan of Disney.
And your point, John?
@@nancyellen8006 he’s a big fan. So am I. Love DW.been there probably 20+ times. Love it.
Are you a child predator?
My father did work on the Disney castle.
How cool. Even though it is not a real castle, it is a world icon. That is something to be proud of.
Cool he helped ruin florida
@@frankdavis_62 oh shut up
@@aviduser1961 It is a ruined and gaudy gay icon now.
@@Dallas_K Another fake, hate filled christian with diarrhea of the mouth. You might want to rethink your goals in life.
Decades, there will be a Orlando Before Potter special....
2024 and nothing has changed about the traffic!! 3 weeks ago i took US192 east to Melbourne, off i-4 and it was a NIGHTMARE!! Going through Kissimmee and St. Cloud was shocking from the last time in 1978 doing the same exact travel. Orlando and all its surrounding area, can only blame the city planners for being 10 years behind the time! Thanks to Gov. DeSantis Disney is finally paying there fair share!!
I visited old Florida back in the 60s before all the Disney BS and old, family attractions still existed. It was a quaint, peaceful charming place back then. Not the over congested concrete covered orange grove tourist destination it's become
And people keep coming, orange groves are a rarity. The concrete jungle has destroyed the natural beauty of central Florida.
You just have to know where to look. But I agree. Concrete is replacing Oak Trees.
Pure corporate greed! It's so expensive to visit Disney properties these days a family can barely afford to go!
It’s rather odd having to explain that Orlando is Orange County’s biggest city nowadays...
Most people do not even realize that Orlando is another 12 miles north of Disney.
Ruined that part of Florida, no question about it. Traffic, pollution, destroyed habitat...opened flood gates for developers. Masses moved right in...nightmare.
I grew up in Florida..Disney ruined it
Me too. Went to Disney World once and did not like it. Never been back.
These comments are ridiculous
And yours isn’t?
All of America would be like this if they had lower tax and more ownership
So good to know Disney destroyed Florida
7.55 don’t believe the shit this man is saying about helping the unemployed. It’s all b.s to make them sound good.
Yeah! Disney created robots to run Disneyworld and Orlando.
Wow even back in the 70 s people were looking for hand outs
Florida is such a unique ecosystem and Disney was an integral part of destroying it, with excessive development, taxes, overpopulation, and pollution.
EFF FLORIDA
Go Woke , Go Broke !
Was much better.
I wonder how much gas “Disney World employees burn each day getting to and from work.
Thanks for ruining Central Florida Walt.
Walt did no such thing. Mismanagement of his assets after his death made all the difference.
Disney ruined Florida
Florida ruined itself by letting it happen. I was going to happen sooner or later Disney or not
Like the whole entire state? Al by themselves? Wow, great story bub. Put it on a bumper sticker.
People & agriculture pollution (& companies like nestle, phosphate mining in some areas) ruined FL. Mostly people, aiding in developing over and not caring about the natural beauty of this state, and especially snow birds (traffic gets exponentially heavier and worse drivers in winter for 2 or 3 months). Tho disney is a cringe tourist trap mostly, probably ruined traffic & Orlando/ Kissimmee area in general
Just took one pandemic to straighten all of this out.
Pre woke Disney.... better time