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  • Watch Mike Wallace's 60 Minutes report from 1972 to see the Florida that existed before Mickey and millions of tourists descended on Orlando. Features great vintage shots of the Vacation Kingdom in the first year of its existence.
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  • @jamesmack3314
    @jamesmack3314 3 роки тому +28

    I stayed at the contemporary in 75...age 13.... just couldn’t get over that monorail going right through the hotel
    way cool

    • @DearProfessorRF
      @DearProfessorRF Рік тому +3

      I feel the same way. I went in 77 and I was nine years old. I felt I was in another planet in in the distant future. Unforgettable. ❤

  • @ScottTeresi
    @ScottTeresi 3 роки тому +37

    The first and last time you'll ever hear a Disney Executive say, "...kids, thank god, are going back to beer."

    • @GwenWittig
      @GwenWittig Рік тому

      😅🤣 I laughed so hard at that

    • @blaketech512
      @blaketech512 Рік тому

      😂

    • @RetrocadePodcast
      @RetrocadePodcast 5 місяців тому

      I was looking for this comment and it was right at the top 😂

  • @jasonmac70
    @jasonmac70 5 років тому +64

    When I was 17 I was a huge Walt Disney fan, I went to Disney all by myself and camped out in a tent at Fort Wilderness. I knew who everybody was in the company, then one day I was on the beach at Fort Wilderness, and I saw Dick Nunis, I went up to him introduced myself to him. He shook my hand and chatted with me for quite some time. He seemed very amazed that a young guy like me knew who he was. But at that point I've read every piece of literature there was to read on Walt Disney, Disneyland, and of course Walt Disney World. He was a very genuine man for the 10-15 minutes we talked back and forth, leaning on the post and rail fencing that divided the beach area from the rest of Fort Wilderness Resort.

    •  4 роки тому +2

      Yea, I worked at D.W. from before Opening for the next 4+ years. Roy Disney actually came to my Department prior to opening to actually meet and shake hands with every employee or Cast Members as we were called. It used to be a family company, which is how Dick Nunis grew-up in it. After that it became Corporate and by the time Michael Eisner took over he needed Disney Security to accompany him everywhere out of his office. And now they have hired Colin Kappernick to write propaganda for them. WoW!

    • @Richard-f7q
      @Richard-f7q 2 місяці тому

      I think Walt Disney would be rolling in this grave if he could see what his company has become. Nothing but a pusher of the LGBTQ ideology. Today, most of the people at the top of the Disney company should be arrested for child endangerment.

  • @Crusader1984
    @Crusader1984 Рік тому +20

    Florida before Disney was a much better place

  • @kimoandrews5802
    @kimoandrews5802 3 роки тому +25

    They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 Рік тому

      People are Strange.

    • @Richard-f7q
      @Richard-f7q 2 місяці тому

      Disney destroyed what was once a nice, beautiful city.

    • @TheSwicker316
      @TheSwicker316 Місяць тому

      Hey, that could be a song.

  • @TerryB751
    @TerryB751 3 роки тому +35

    Back in '72 I was 18 and worked as a tram operator making a big $2.15 an hour. Back then, one exasperated tourist after tired of the long lines, when the tram finally showed up, told one fellow tram driver, "You know what you can do with this tram, kid." And the response was "Sorry sir, my supervisor always told me never put a tram where I can't back it up."

    • @misterwhipple2870
      @misterwhipple2870 Рік тому +4

      My brother worked at the Crystal Palace in 1971 for $1.95 an hour and my mother for $2.35 at the Contemporary Resort. But, parking was 50 cents (today it is thirty bucks,) the monorail or the boat was $1.50 and admission was $7 a person. Ticket books were $7, and today they are not needed, but the cheapest admission is $139. You could get a room in the Contemporary for $21 a night, and today that can be $900. Many, many things have to be taken into account, but one thing is sure: prices have risen 40 times and more, but wages compared to inflation have only risen 10 times. You were much better off then.

    • @pedestrianrights1257
      @pedestrianrights1257 Рік тому

      The guy needs a brain. WHAT is the point of complaining to a kid that works for slave labor when he should complain to upper executives??

  • @ethank8152
    @ethank8152 3 роки тому +85

    Born in 1958 and was raised in Florida for most of my life, I witnessed orange groves and vast agricultural acreage decimated and cleared for profit. True Florida will never be the same. Greed always takes and never gives back. Sad....

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 роки тому +15

      ANOTHER thing that Disney has destroyed. Seriously, almost everything they touch, they ruin.

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 роки тому +2

      @Zazoo Kluk No, Disney's been destroying stuff since the 50s, possibly much longer. It's not comparable honestly. You know the famous "Jungle Cruise" ride? They stole half of it from The African Queen (Disney has openly admitted they got "inspiration" from the 1951 UA film). There's even a dispute as to whether Walt falsely took credit for Mickey (his early partner in business claimed for years afterward that HE had created him). If more people would study Disney's history, it is rather sinister and they've only gotten worse.

    • @robertclark4929
      @robertclark4929 3 роки тому +10

      My dad told me years ago about how he remembered Disney land having cattle on it.

    • @TeachAManToAngle
      @TeachAManToAngle 3 роки тому +23

      The orange groves were planted by farmers for pure profit. Not charity or goodwill.

    • @OrlandoStreets
      @OrlandoStreets 3 роки тому +9

      It's not greed, it is population growth. Supply and demand. Happens all around planet earth.

  • @refinedhayseedappalachian9777
    @refinedhayseedappalachian9777 Рік тому +6

    I was 9 when Disney opened. I was taking trains from infancy thru Orlando as the anticipation grew. We would travel from Gainesville and go to SW Florida. US 27 and the Orange groves were a thing to behold in spring when the orange blossoms bloomed.

    • @Richard-f7q
      @Richard-f7q 2 місяці тому +1

      Those groves no longer exist. Disney killed them.

    • @refinedhayseedappalachian9777
      @refinedhayseedappalachian9777 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Richard-f7q Seems like another life ago. We got faked out by some kind a evil. take care.

  • @eflint1
    @eflint1 6 років тому +52

    It's nice to hear so many southern accents back then in central Florida!

    • @BrendanMcClelland
      @BrendanMcClelland 5 років тому +7

      I know but if you go out to places like Polk County there’s still plenty of Southern accents.

    • @frankdavis_62
      @frankdavis_62 5 років тому +12

      So far gone sadly destroyed by Yankees

    • @faulltw
      @faulltw 4 роки тому +8

      I was born in Clearwater and lived there until i was 10. When we moved to Michigan I was told I had a southern accent. I have no trace of it now. So, now I live in Arkansas and people say they can tell I am not from around here because I don't have a southern accent.

    • @faulltw
      @faulltw 4 роки тому +1

      @@rustyshackleford4046 My brother in law is one. Born and raised in Safety Harbor and now lives is Port Richey.

    • @drpando
      @drpando 3 роки тому +6

      lol... the accents are still southern........ way southern.... way way southern....South America... :(

  • @jerrystandecker9101
    @jerrystandecker9101 3 роки тому +20

    People were so much more articulate back then.

    • @sailorman8590
      @sailorman8590 3 роки тому +11

      They were actually educated, had morals, and had brain cells. Today’s society is half brain dead. Sad!

    • @davidcarroll8735
      @davidcarroll8735 Рік тому +6

      They also could answer and take longer than 10 seconds - this was the pre-sound-bite world!

    • @Richard-f7q
      @Richard-f7q 2 місяці тому +2

      What you can see from that is the decline of the entire country. We are not educating our children any more. All they have to know is "proper pronoun usage." We, the United States, are failing for this and many, many other reasons. Face it, my fellow Americans. It's over.

  • @sherriianiro747
    @sherriianiro747 3 роки тому +20

    I didn't realize how beautiful that land was before Disneyworld developed it -

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 роки тому +6

      Honestly, with the way Disney's gone in recent years (becoming a near monopoly), you wish they would somehow miraculously go bankrupt so that Florida could scrap or at least downsize that monstrosity in Orlando. Walt Disney Studios: Ruining almost everything they touch, mistreating employees and stealing ideas since 1927.

    • @CrownedGamer101
      @CrownedGamer101 Рік тому +5

      @@thunderbird1921a lot of us are not mistreated for the most part… secondly… they have not been mistreating employees since 1927… Walt Disney was a kind caring man… do you even know much about this company cuz I’ve researched this whole company up and down… and I hope to God that they never scrap Disney world and downsize it. I work in this amazing place and it is honestly the best job I have and will ever work in my entire life!!!

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      @@thunderbird1921 Don't forget the corruption of children with their zeal for LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ+-÷ that is out of control.

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      @@CrownedGamer101 Bravo to what you say BEFORE the passing of Walt, but you are gravely mistaken on the status of Disney today. Like a cancer it has bloomed into a horrible pox upon our society and a predator upon our children. Cancers must be removed when found out. REMOVE DISNEY.

    • @CrownedGamer101
      @CrownedGamer101 Рік тому +3

      @@Dallas_K very insensitive. This is my job.

  • @BigCheech-wy9os
    @BigCheech-wy9os 2 роки тому +12

    Man did these guys predict the future of central florida. All the groves are gone

    • @Richard-f7q
      @Richard-f7q 2 місяці тому +2

      Instead of nice Florida oranges for U.S. citizens, they ship oranges in from China of all places! It makes our country weak and dependent. I wish Disney would never have come down here.

  • @stevealaska73
    @stevealaska73 5 років тому +55

    It's truly alarming that finding ANY criticism of the Corporate Beast that is Disney is VERY DIFFICULT to find. I don't like today's Disney, I miss old school Disney. The focus for their company is obvious, greed for more money. Once it was about providing memories for children and their families. I'm convinced that Walt would NOT agree with the direction his company has gone and continues to go.

    • @MoMoMyPup10
      @MoMoMyPup10 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah but Ole Walt was a capitalist through and through. He was a very smart businessman and saw a niche not yet tapped into. Buying that land in Orlando is one of the shrewdest business moves ever made. But yeah, now it's up to the visitors to keep his original dream alive and make of what it was meant to be.

    • @stevealaska73
      @stevealaska73 3 роки тому +8

      @@MoMoMyPup10 From what I understand, he was driven to create a place to take his two little girls. A place that was Family friendly and clean etc.
      He quietly bought large plots of land in Florida because he was smart enough to know that if people found out he was buying land to create what he did in California, they would over-inflate the cost of the mostly swamp land he was to buy. That was indeed smart. Walt learned with Disneyland in California that it was wise to buy more land than was needed so that we wouldn't be surrounded by "gift stores and copy cats" etc. Preserving the magic and removing folks from their reality and immersing them into his "World" meant that it would take a lot of land.
      They built corridors under the lands in WDW to preserve the fantasy of each by keeping the cast members out of the lands to which they did not work.
      Pretty smart.
      Walt Disney had an amazing, sometimes tragic life. He learned a lot and created a lot more. Ultimately, he was driven to give to his children and his Family that which did not exist. That is why I respect him the most.

    • @Disneyfan1955
      @Disneyfan1955 3 роки тому +1

      @@stevealaska73 Can you please explain? Walt Disney and his wife had 2 children

    • @stevealaska73
      @stevealaska73 3 роки тому

      @@Disneyfan1955 Explain what exactly? I thought I laid it out pretty clearly along with mentioning his two daughters. What did you miss?

    • @Sassyellechica
      @Sassyellechica 3 роки тому +2

      Facts, especially with thier new ceo he is destroying it

  • @davetruther31
    @davetruther31 5 років тому +46

    I miss the old Florida with the roadside animal zoos/ gift shops and Six Gun Territory and Silver Springs in Ocala.. Not to mention Cyprus gardens, marine land etc etc..

    • @hdgboy
      @hdgboy 4 роки тому +9

      You are so right. To me those places you mentioned and others like them were the character of Florida. There was certain unexplainable feeling you got, like going back into time that made visiting Florida so much fun.

    • @jabbahursty
      @jabbahursty 3 роки тому +3

      yeah, more fun in pre corporate control days.

    • @NikonChicFL
      @NikonChicFL 3 роки тому

      @Zazoo Kluk talked with a brew guy at a brewery in Winter Park; mentioned to him about Splendid China...he was surprised hear someone mention it.
      Enjoyed going there...but just remember barely anybody visited.

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 Рік тому +3

      More fun back then. Weeki Wachee!

    • @lesspitzer8387
      @lesspitzer8387 7 місяців тому +2

      Mystery Funhouse Six Gun Territory

  • @wanted-33
    @wanted-33 Рік тому +3

    I'll venture to say that the good folks that was interviewed could have ever imagined what Orlando would look like 50 years later. Since our first visit in 1977 Orlando have turned into a zoo of sorts. The Magic Kingdom was set in the middle of orange groves. Now it's set in the middle of a concrete jungle.

  • @2disnerds956
    @2disnerds956 3 роки тому +8

    Thanks for the video. I love watching history while it was happening.

  • @raineman73
    @raineman73 4 роки тому +19

    And, almost 50 years later, the majority of WDW property is still undeveloped, with lots of space for the local wildlife to flourish.

    • @cvn6555
      @cvn6555 3 роки тому

      It's something like 10-12% developed, right?

  • @bens1972
    @bens1972 2 роки тому +8

    A Plastic Hell full of cheesy disingenuous smiles, synthetic merchandise, heart-attack inducing food and bank breaking expense

    • @RawOlympia
      @RawOlympia Місяць тому

      and now unhinged Disney adults on booze and xanax

  • @MissMyMusicAddiction
    @MissMyMusicAddiction 3 роки тому +25

    leave it to 60 minutes to find the cloud in the sky and act like it is the entire sky

    • @joedzny
      @joedzny 3 роки тому +4

      Fake news was even around in the 70's

    • @MissMyMusicAddiction
      @MissMyMusicAddiction 3 роки тому +1

      @@joedzny how about 3:00 - wanna guess what day that "one day" was?

    • @inkyguy
      @inkyguy 3 роки тому +1

      @@joedzny”Fake news” is merely anything that doesn’t conform to right wing dogma or raises any troubling questions when a Republican is in charge.

    • @Sunsetdriver85
      @Sunsetdriver85 3 роки тому

      @@inkyguy or "conspiracy theory" and "right wing extremism" are anything that don't support and questions the narrative pushed by democrats, leftists, and mainstream media.
      It goes both ways, that both sides disregard anything that opposes it. Why should we make "fake news"/"conspiracy theory" so political? Why be so narrow-minded and partisan? Everyone should strive for being correct and to learn the truth about reality.

    • @cheem-creem3622
      @cheem-creem3622 2 місяці тому

      Tell me you're not from central florida without telling me, everything they warned about has come true 50 years later

  • @ih82r8
    @ih82r8 6 років тому +22

    Unreal. One guy had the sense to say hey let's not pave over absolutely everything so we can keep some environmental stability here. To this day I still don't understand why booms like this are not being protected from existing residents by City councils. It is not difficult to put a tax cap on existing homes and properties. The pooping problem(too many people) in Orlando is what's causing the issues with Lake Okeechobee in part at least.

    • @bvcltd.3250
      @bvcltd.3250 5 років тому +2

      1) FLA has tax caps on increases and exemptions for full time residents 2) Water from the Orlando Metro flows north to the Atlantic via the ST John's, it doesn't flow south.

    • @cicada9471
      @cicada9471 4 роки тому +4

      @@bvcltd.3250 Wrong!
      The beginnings of The Everglades start in Kissimmee, right where Disney world is.
      Most of the area was swamp and orange groves. Most of that water used to flow south to Lake Okeechobee and the everglades.

  • @thurso1968
    @thurso1968 7 років тому +57

    8:16 "Kids thank god are going back to drinking beer" ?!?!? What?

    • @ih82r8
      @ih82r8 6 років тому

      RobRamdisk 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @mcmc8496
      @mcmc8496 6 років тому +2

      Beer is a gateway drink...

    • @Offshore1977
      @Offshore1977 5 років тому +11

      He was talking about how California back then was reporting that drug use was decreasing and kids were returning back to beer from other drugs.

    • @CM-ld3dq
      @CM-ld3dq 4 роки тому +1

      then CA legalized and collected more taxes than FLA and Disney?

    • @tinee2879
      @tinee2879 4 роки тому

      RobRamdisk IKR I thought I heard that🤦🏽‍♀️😂

  • @MikeA15206
    @MikeA15206 3 роки тому +27

    $149 a day to get in to Disney now (for Florida residents). Disney pays minimum wages (literally), sounds like the experiment didn't work out well for Orlando or the environment.

    • @Polarcupcheck
      @Polarcupcheck 3 роки тому +3

      That is crazy prices. I remember when it was like $50

    • @omegaman1409
      @omegaman1409 2 роки тому +1

      I remember when it was $25 in the 1980s.

    • @danmac2925
      @danmac2925 Рік тому +1

      I pay $360/year for an annual pass allowing weekday use, with free parking

  • @SPIDER-Man669
    @SPIDER-Man669 4 роки тому +22

    Was that the sound of an iPhone 📱??

    • @juniorsir9521
      @juniorsir9521 3 роки тому +1

      I literally checked to see if I got a message or email...😅

    • @kellyweingart3692
      @kellyweingart3692 3 роки тому +1

      lol

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      Likely a blip in the old film soundtrack.

  • @ovrezy
    @ovrezy 3 роки тому +15

    "No one goes there any more, it's too crowded" - Yogi Berra

    • @bettyahlheitt8812
      @bettyahlheitt8812 3 роки тому

      bs

    • @dona4him942
      @dona4him942 2 роки тому

      I wouldn't say no one goes there anymore if it's too crowded. Lol
      But I will say it's a complete dump. It's too stuffy for me.

    • @CrownedGamer101
      @CrownedGamer101 Рік тому

      Too many people still go here😅 trust me I know😅

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      Yogi made a Boo Boo.

  • @tonychavez2083
    @tonychavez2083 6 років тому +29

    what a blow that was to the natural environment and ecosystems.

    • @ih82r8
      @ih82r8 6 років тому +2

      Tony Chavez you said it

    • @cflo1386
      @cflo1386 4 роки тому +5

      Florida was a paradise.

    • @4075
      @4075 Рік тому +1

      Now look at today. It's sad

  • @opal92nwf
    @opal92nwf 5 років тому +17

    That Carl Langford guy sure is smug. Him and Orlando city officials always wanted big growth to come- and they couldn't give two cahoots on what that would do in the long term (which is a ruined quality of life and loss of Orlando truly being "The City Beautiful.")

    • @billmoyer3254
      @billmoyer3254 4 роки тому

      Langford moved to North Carolina when he retired, but then came right back.

  • @pickitup7008
    @pickitup7008 3 роки тому +6

    I didn’t realize that Disneyland was b4 Disney world!

  • @one4allall4one91
    @one4allall4one91 5 років тому +10

    I can't say wdw is all bad. Through the years it has brought so many memories to my family. But,yes,it changed the landscape forever.

  • @cathydanielson9995
    @cathydanielson9995 6 років тому +36

    OMG people were thin back then, did anybody else notice??

    • @danseabreeze1404
      @danseabreeze1404 5 років тому +3

      @James Harold F A T dwarfs with butt, tit and lip implants! : l

    • @louisewagoner1070
      @louisewagoner1070 5 років тому +4

      the women wore girdles then

    • @ChelseaOnMainStreet
      @ChelseaOnMainStreet 5 років тому +1

      I can't imagine wearing a dress and heels, and you know there was pantyhose involved! I barely allow it when Dapper Day comes around!

    • @RTCMAHL
      @RTCMAHL 5 років тому +8

      thin and well dressed!

    • @faulltw
      @faulltw 4 роки тому +5

      @@RTCMAHL I remember dressing up to go to the movies or out to sit down restaurant.

  • @Skipbo000
    @Skipbo000 3 роки тому +11

    Companies always talk about bringing jobs and then you find out the majority are these low paying, low benefit, high stress shit jobs that no one wants to do very long. Used to have a friend that worked at Disney during the day and slept in her car at night all so she could work at the "happiest place on Earth."

    • @Polarcupcheck
      @Polarcupcheck 3 роки тому +5

      Need unions. If you don't have a union, you get screwed

    • @CrownedGamer101
      @CrownedGamer101 Рік тому

      @@PolarcupcheckDisney now has unions

    • @CrownedGamer101
      @CrownedGamer101 Рік тому +1

      I work at the Magic Kingdom at Disney World and I personally love it. I work many long hours per week and it does get exhausting but I wouldn’t trade it for anything in the world

    • @Polarcupcheck
      @Polarcupcheck Рік тому

      @@CrownedGamer101 Should get those hours down. You can't keep that up forever.

    • @CrownedGamer101
      @CrownedGamer101 Рік тому +1

      @@Polarcupcheck I don’t want the hours down… I love working here… I have nothing to do at home… working here is my hobby😅😂😂

  • @hdgboy
    @hdgboy 4 роки тому +60

    How prophetic. Mr. “Greenbelt” nailed it but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out how it is gonna turn out. What a mess central Florida is now.

    • @CM-ld3dq
      @CM-ld3dq 4 роки тому +6

      low tax utopia until visitors stop coming to pay taxes

    • @MoMoMyPup10
      @MoMoMyPup10 3 роки тому +5

      It is quite disturbing that as every town grows into a city that it then turns into a hood. To me the main problem was the roadways were never designed to handle that kind of volume and traffic, and it will always be a nightmare getting in and out and through there. "Build it and they will come" has relevancy other than baseball!

    • @hardworker5588
      @hardworker5588 3 роки тому +2

      LOL ... commufornia is your Utopia.

    • @OrlandoStreets
      @OrlandoStreets 3 роки тому

      Where's the mess?

    • @artdecotimes2942
      @artdecotimes2942 3 роки тому

      @@OrlandoStreets where isn't the mess.

  • @aviduser1961
    @aviduser1961 7 років тому +33

    Who knew Professor Von Honeydew was mayor of Orlando.

  • @chrislanejones
    @chrislanejones 3 роки тому +2

    In defense of the Orange Grove professor. Orange county has huge water problems. They wanted us (Jacksonville, FL) to pipe water to Orlando. We were like no way!

  • @roydean1137
    @roydean1137 3 роки тому +11

    To blame Disney for grifters and conmen in Florida is laughable. Florida is notable for these type of people. Just read any Carl Hiasson book. South Florida is worst because of the people that have retired from New York City. I remember Florida pre-Disney. We used to vacation in Daytona Beach every summer when I was a kid. My grandparents used to go to Kissimmee in the winter. Disney World was just as much an attraction when is was being built. I remember my grandmother talking about it and as I remember it they were giving tours of the progress before the opening during the construction.

    • @MoMoMyPup10
      @MoMoMyPup10 3 роки тому +2

      Valid point! "Build it and they will come" took on another meaning besides baseball 50 years ago.

  • @fringestream990
    @fringestream990 3 роки тому +8

    Cities like Orlando and Tampa have grown and the smaller cities up north are dying going back to nature throughout the rust belt.

    • @artdecotimes2942
      @artdecotimes2942 3 роки тому +3

      And then there's Manhattan which has gone bad shit crazy, I swear they have no idea what they are doing anymore, just building glass sticks every minute, I think there's..say? 23 buildings that are glass and tall going up right now... Maddening.

    • @raymondsix4694
      @raymondsix4694 2 роки тому +2

      Born and raised in Orlando, watched Disney World being built, there on opening day with family. Then when we were fourteen, we moved up north to the "rust belt". The difference was like being on two different planets.

  • @fundude4566
    @fundude4566 3 роки тому +3

    I wonder how many locals were pissed off at Walt for this? I also wonder how many packed their bags and left Florida after this?

  • @Rossturnerphoto
    @Rossturnerphoto 4 роки тому +10

    I'm not against progress and enjoyed Disney World growing up, but it's sad to hear about the negative impact its opening had on long- time residents of Central Florida. I used to live in Orlando and new people that lived there a long time that hated Disney World for it.

    • @OrlandoStreets
      @OrlandoStreets 3 роки тому +2

      If they sold they would have made a killing on their investment. Why feel sorry for them?

    • @Rossturnerphoto
      @Rossturnerphoto 3 роки тому +4

      @@OrlandoStreets good point, but i was referring to people who lived there that enjoyed it as a small community that now see it as the growing center of activity it is now, and seeing all the nature bulldozed for progress.

    • @OrlandoStreets
      @OrlandoStreets 3 роки тому +1

      @@Rossturnerphoto Yeah, that makes sense.

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      Not to mention the negative i.pact of the current woke agenda pushed there and their predatory lust for children.

  • @georgealexander141
    @georgealexander141 3 роки тому +19

    Florida has been whoring its land for decades. My family would take the Turnpike from Miami to Orlando, when we’d visit Disney World in the 70s and 80s, and you’d see nothing but trees, grass and other vegetation. Now you take that road, and some of that land has been built up. Everywhere in this state there is construction. I believe that in 100 years the entire state will be built up.

    • @georgealexander141
      @georgealexander141 3 роки тому +4

      @First Last Miami is just like Hong Kong. Small one bedroom apartments going for almost $2000 a month.

    • @cvn6555
      @cvn6555 3 роки тому +4

      That's every state. There is always a need for more housing and jobs. Populations grow. Nobody wants to live in tiny 50's tract houses. Always been mystified when people that do not own a piece of land grouse about how the owners use it. Politicians always have to look for ways to up the tax base because this country seems hell-bent on providing cradle to grave welfare.

    • @cflo1386
      @cflo1386 3 роки тому

      In the process destroying what made Florida unique, its natural habitats.

    • @jett3332
      @jett3332 Рік тому +2

      I remember that too. Little family small farms here and there. It was one pretty ride. Now a fast lane with distant memories.

    • @4075
      @4075 Рік тому

      Wonder why florida is getting so hot cause everyone gotta have a air-conditioned mansion and 2 people only live in it. And then build the houses as close as possible to each other.

  • @disneydeefan7510
    @disneydeefan7510 3 роки тому +5

    the mayor was getting his pockets lined

  • @jaydee9721
    @jaydee9721 5 років тому +24

    Well, Disney World used to be nice, but the $112 ticket price for adults and the $20 parking fee is not that great. The whole area is one huge congested traffic disaster.

    • @alexwhite3158
      @alexwhite3158 5 років тому +1

      Yes, unfortunately the population grew so fast that the area infrastructure construction could not keep up with the vast influex of people.

    • @bethbabson913
      @bethbabson913 5 років тому +1

      Guess what. It's more than that already!!!! I guess parents took me enough that about once a year or so trip when Space Mountain built I'd already been there. Means parents did take me at beginning then.

    • @bvcltd.3250
      @bvcltd.3250 5 років тому +1

      take the back entrance on 429, don't take I4

    • @danseabreeze1404
      @danseabreeze1404 5 років тому +1

      And if you buy a tiny key chain it's like 20 dollars! : l

    • @e.l.norton
      @e.l.norton 4 роки тому

      It's called progress. It's been 50 years. The infrastructure and industry that's grown up there would never have happened otherwise. I think the pain of its absence is probably being felt rather acutely these past few months. And, as far as traffic, man...there's nothing to complain about in Orlando compared to other parts of the country.

  • @westtexasdave2140
    @westtexasdave2140 3 роки тому +9

    What did they expect Disney to do, pack up and leave?

    • @juniorsir9521
      @juniorsir9521 3 роки тому +1

      Now Disney is a multi billion dollar brand. I’ve been to disneyworld it was fun but I don’t think it’s worth spending a small fortune every weekend.

  • @michellehawkins1027
    @michellehawkins1027 3 місяці тому

    God I miss my old Florida.Used to smell the orange blossoms in the air in the mornings going to school.Would pass by fields with Horses or crops of celery and greens. All transplants came and overcrowded and overbuilt and turned it into the cities they left. :(

  • @disneyboy3030
    @disneyboy3030 4 роки тому +5

    It did help the Florida economy.

  • @lbmartinet
    @lbmartinet 3 роки тому +5

    4:54 really great segment on environmental changes from development

  • @barriosromeo3770
    @barriosromeo3770 3 роки тому +3

    Its essential I hope to see its park at least once before I die. With my kids and grandkids. Always wanted a Disney wedding

    • @kiwikiwi2483
      @kiwikiwi2483 3 роки тому

      You GOT to go man. It's commonly said that Disney is just for kids but I've seen adults, grown men even crying after the finale of Happily Ever After.

    • @CrownedGamer101
      @CrownedGamer101 Рік тому

      Please come! I’m a Disney world employee!! We would love to have you at the Magic Kingdom!! You gotta go at least once… it’s an amazing place!

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      Processing kids is the game now with Disney. LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ+-÷ agenda rules there.

  • @MrMusicmicky
    @MrMusicmicky 3 роки тому

    Very interesting. Thank you for sharing!

  • @mcmc8496
    @mcmc8496 6 років тому +7

    Beer is a gateway drink! (8:16)

  • @cliffchristie5865
    @cliffchristie5865 3 роки тому +3

    Any change as big as this was would inevitably be good for some and bad for others. And I have no doubt that a down side came along with the prosperity. From the other end of the country I couldn't say how they dealt with any problems over the decades. But 50 years later I don't imagine that most people, including Floridians, really wish that Disney had never come there.

  • @jessejames586
    @jessejames586 8 місяців тому

    I remember seeing the plans before Disney World was built and the amount of wetlands that was planned to be eliminated was really worrisome

  • @Buzzmonkey24
    @Buzzmonkey24 3 роки тому +2

    Wow. Wonder what these persons interviewed in this would think of the County now a days

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      They are already turning in their graves.

  • @Heres_Johnny.
    @Heres_Johnny. 3 роки тому +5

    Walt Disney World opened in 1971. 1972 was post Disney. Not sure why this is titled the way it is.

    • @114avataraang
      @114avataraang 3 роки тому

      I think because the film was produced in 1972...

    • @cvn6555
      @cvn6555 3 роки тому

      October 1971. 72 was the first summer that people would be taking their family vacations there. I was there in 72 and it was very different from today.

  • @MissMyMusicAddiction
    @MissMyMusicAddiction 3 роки тому +6

    1:53 30k/day. Now that's pandemic attendance

  • @Grtdprsn_herewecome
    @Grtdprsn_herewecome 5 років тому +4

    5:05. Well. He came close!!

  • @dy9955
    @dy9955 3 роки тому +22

    "Is Disney a good addition?"
    "No, because they won't give us free money."

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      Processing children is their game.

  • @dokholladay
    @dokholladay 3 роки тому +6

    60 Minutes was doing hit pieces on capitalism and development back in the 1970s too.

  • @twentyfoursixteen
    @twentyfoursixteen 3 роки тому +1

    First sip of coffee @2:22

  • @jonathankleinow2073
    @jonathankleinow2073 2 роки тому +1

    Mike Wallace: You do have your detractors about what goes on outside.
    Dick Nunis: In California, dope's on the downslide, and kids are going back to beer. On the East Coast, it's on the upswing. Everyone wants more money for their staff, so they point out all the negatives.
    He would have given today's Disney PR department a collective aneurysm with that answer. I get the point he's trying to make, but essentially calling local charities greedy when you're freakin' Disney is... something else.

  • @pwrfl2357
    @pwrfl2357 3 роки тому +5

    Ideal weather if you like constant heat, humidity, bugs, and the daily thunderstorm rain deluge. No thanks I need 4 seasons.

  • @f1dog
    @f1dog 3 роки тому +1

    This guy knew early on that the Florida man was going to be born at Walt Disney World.

  • @brainysmurf74
    @brainysmurf74 Рік тому

    Want there a part two of this? I cant find a before disney video from 69 that had interviews with locals who talked about everything from epcot to crime to realestate

  • @AXander1978
    @AXander1978 4 роки тому +2

    Wow....Nunis aged way better later on...

  • @harrykuheim6107
    @harrykuheim6107 6 років тому +6

    Disney was a Great Talented Man....Pure Americana success Story....

  • @mikeef747
    @mikeef747 4 місяці тому

    The media doing what they do best, stirring up controversies where there is no controversy! So they can increase their ratings, they search to find anything they can twist. I-4 was already open, the roads in and out of Disney were all 4 lane roads leading up to the Magic Kingdom parking lot, but they showed a traffic jam outside of disney on a 2 lane road.

  • @tpg5974
    @tpg5974 Рік тому

    2:28 Leave it freakin' Mike Wallace to bring up Reedy Creek fifty years ago!!!

  • @nickb5914
    @nickb5914 3 роки тому +2

    One day they'll fix the traffic issue.

    • @alexismiller288
      @alexismiller288 3 роки тому +1

      They're building Brightline train station, so that should help. I would gladly drive to Palm Beach to board then ride the train into Orlando.

  • @bababo3y972
    @bababo3y972 6 років тому +5

    # save the orange trees and polar bears

  • @rentslave
    @rentslave 5 років тому

    It was a great time,a time when we had CARS!!!

  • @jessyleppert2
    @jessyleppert2 3 роки тому

    Magic Kingdom 1971
    Epcot Center 1982
    Disney/MGM Studios (now Disney Hollywood Studios) 1989
    Disney's Animal Kingdom 1998

  • @gp8033
    @gp8033 3 роки тому +8

    And people keep coming, orange groves are a rarity. The concrete jungle has destroyed the natural beauty of central Florida.

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 Рік тому

      You just have to know where to look. But I agree. Concrete is replacing Oak Trees.

  • @incognitofla592
    @incognitofla592 2 місяці тому

    I’ve been to Disney more times since 1972, I cannot count. That place is run like a well oiled machine. But I don’t see a reason to return and I avoid the bottleneck on that side of town as much as possible. If you’re going, I suggest Halloween or even better, Christmas. Beautiful.

  • @WhiteDragon689
    @WhiteDragon689 Рік тому +1

    I visited DW the year it opened. I've been back many times. i refuse to go now as they nickel and dime you to death. They'd charge for air and water if they could get away with it. Corporate Greed and lack of vission is Disney's huge problem and it might kill them off in time.

  • @IntuitiveJohn
    @IntuitiveJohn 4 роки тому +4

    I'm a big fan of Disney.

    • @nancyellen8006
      @nancyellen8006 3 роки тому +1

      And your point, John?

    • @Hillr2249
      @Hillr2249 3 роки тому +1

      @@nancyellen8006 he’s a big fan. So am I. Love DW.been there probably 20+ times. Love it.

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      Are you a child predator?

  • @nicholeandalby
    @nicholeandalby 2 роки тому

    I live in seattle , this is like our situation with Amazon except 50 years later....what does it matter if we have lots of jobs but none of them pay well enough to pay rent?

  • @justinl.3317
    @justinl.3317 7 місяців тому

    2024 and nothing has changed about the traffic!! 3 weeks ago i took US192 east to Melbourne, off i-4 and it was a NIGHTMARE!! Going through Kissimmee and St. Cloud was shocking from the last time in 1978 doing the same exact travel. Orlando and all its surrounding area, can only blame the city planners for being 10 years behind the time! Thanks to Gov. DeSantis Disney is finally paying there fair share!!

  • @oldsoldier8139
    @oldsoldier8139 3 роки тому

    If that Major could only see what a cesspool Orange county has become. And he's was a great contributor to it.

  • @emeraldkimble7602
    @emeraldkimble7602 Рік тому

    Universal studios set up rival amusement park on both coasts

  • @jessejames586
    @jessejames586 8 місяців тому

    I visited old Florida back in the 60s before all the Disney BS and old, family attractions still existed. It was a quaint, peaceful charming place back then. Not the over congested concrete covered orange grove tourist destination it's become

  • @jessejames586
    @jessejames586 8 місяців тому

    Pure corporate greed! It's so expensive to visit Disney properties these days a family can barely afford to go!

  • @AXander1978
    @AXander1978 5 років тому

    Decades, there will be a Orlando Before Potter special....

  • @inquisitor4635
    @inquisitor4635 6 років тому +7

    My father did work on the Disney castle.

    • @aviduser1961
      @aviduser1961 6 років тому +2

      How cool. Even though it is not a real castle, it is a world icon. That is something to be proud of.

    • @frankdavis_62
      @frankdavis_62 5 років тому

      Cool he helped ruin florida

    • @jacksonplaysgames2422
      @jacksonplaysgames2422 3 роки тому +3

      @@frankdavis_62 oh shut up

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      @@aviduser1961 It is a ruined and gaudy gay icon now.

    • @aviduser1961
      @aviduser1961 Рік тому

      @@Dallas_K Another fake, hate filled christian with diarrhea of the mouth. You might want to rethink your goals in life.

  • @rebeccaheuer3255
    @rebeccaheuer3255 3 роки тому +1

    No one forced the farmers to sell out. I mean they complained and did nothing about it. Greenbelt had to do what he did to save the ecosystem. It still wasn't enough. What a mess.

  • @dougthompson5586
    @dougthompson5586 3 роки тому +7

    I grew up in Florida..Disney ruined it

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 Рік тому

      Me too. Went to Disney World once and did not like it. Never been back.

  • @softhotty
    @softhotty Місяць тому

    Ruined that part of Florida, no question about it. Traffic, pollution, destroyed habitat...opened flood gates for developers. Masses moved right in...nightmare.

  • @maybebaby1112
    @maybebaby1112 3 роки тому +2

    Wow even back in the 70 s people were looking for hand outs

  • @cheesewizz_
    @cheesewizz_ 3 роки тому

    It’s rather odd having to explain that Orlando is Orange County’s biggest city nowadays...

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      Most people do not even realize that Orlando is another 12 miles north of Disney.

  • @jessicakleinberg7925
    @jessicakleinberg7925 3 роки тому +3

    The mayor smoking his pipe 🤣

  • @pazzariatv
    @pazzariatv 3 роки тому +3

    It's very interesting that there is so much talk about "clean people" vs. "people who bring problems".
    Yes. Agreed. I would venture to say that on ANY Disney property, there is virtually no crime (except for the occasional bathroom/attraction drug use and store theft. But, that's what Disney security is for).
    If you do do ANYTHING on Disney property, lord help you.
    Sheriffs SURROUND Disney Springs. Many, many of them.
    I live in Celebration. I isn't perfect, but, it's perfect enough.
    There is no perfect place to live. EVERYWHERE has its ups and its downs.
    Celebration is very, very quiet and out of the way. Like anywhere else Disney dreamt up, it's an entire world unto its own.
    I can absolutely focus on what I need to, without helicopters flying overhead, police driving down the street, etc... It really is lovely.
    Walt Disney World is an absolute miracle, unto itself.
    I am extremely blessed to be here. I would venture to say that there is no better place in the world to live.

    • @jacksonplaysgames2422
      @jacksonplaysgames2422 3 роки тому +3

      About to get a house in golden oaks glad someone else loves the magic as much as my family does

    • @pazzariatv
      @pazzariatv 3 роки тому +1

      @@jacksonplaysgames2422 I’m jealous. I have had the opportunity to tour a model home. Needless to say, you won’t be disappointed.
      The security is, quite obviously, world class.
      I have a goal, for my company, for over the next 5 years, to obtain a home there and to turn about 3/4 of it into a studio, for Pazzaria Productions.
      We’ll see what happens.
      As a sidenote, I have also dined at the Four Seasons on that property. The views and food were, of course, amazing.
      Take care!

    • @jacksonplaysgames2422
      @jacksonplaysgames2422 3 роки тому +1

      @@pazzariatv thanks great to know hope you Can get a home there eventually

    • @pazzariatv
      @pazzariatv 3 роки тому +1

      @@jacksonplaysgames2422
      Thank you, sir.
      Have a great one!

    • @jacksonplaysgames2422
      @jacksonplaysgames2422 3 роки тому

      @@pazzariatv you to

  • @thepetesmith
    @thepetesmith Рік тому

    All of America would be like this if they had lower tax and more ownership

  • @taramansion
    @taramansion Рік тому

    Florida is such a unique ecosystem and Disney was an integral part of destroying it, with excessive development, taxes, overpopulation, and pollution.

  • @johnnylongfeather3086
    @johnnylongfeather3086 Рік тому

    10:39 Arlanda

  • @choppersworld5094
    @choppersworld5094 3 роки тому +3

    7.55 don’t believe the shit this man is saying about helping the unemployed. It’s all b.s to make them sound good.

    • @rondj1965
      @rondj1965 3 роки тому

      Yeah! Disney created robots to run Disneyworld and Orlando.

  • @karengeyman5562
    @karengeyman5562 3 роки тому +1

    These comments are ridiculous

  • @renlysotherlover294
    @renlysotherlover294 3 роки тому

    So good to know Disney destroyed Florida

  • @phillips2683
    @phillips2683 2 роки тому

    I wonder how much gas “Disney World employees burn each day getting to and from work.

  • @greenbeagle13
    @greenbeagle13 Рік тому

    Was much better.

  • @patmason7276
    @patmason7276 3 роки тому

    Just took one pandemic to straighten all of this out.

  • @cflo1386
    @cflo1386 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for ruining Central Florida Walt.

    • @Dallas_K
      @Dallas_K Рік тому

      Walt did no such thing. Mismanagement of his assets after his death made all the difference.

  • @thewkovacs316
    @thewkovacs316 3 роки тому +1

    EFF FLORIDA

  • @Vintage_GenX
    @Vintage_GenX Місяць тому

    Pre woke Disney.... better time

  • @davemorris1246
    @davemorris1246 3 роки тому +2

    And now Orlando is a complete mess