I use these in 32g 5.5 there a partridge cartridge without the 5% Antimony lead in a cheaper case I now only use these for crow shooting I sometimes use the 29g 6 for sim days or close range crows under 35 yards also fantastic cartridges at a sensible price.
I enjoy these reviews and wonder whether you could give an opinion on what might happen to subsonic cartridges when we move steel. I shoot clays but also do some crop protection work for local farmers and while I shoot a moderated 410 for that I’m wondering whether ballistically subsonic steel loads are feasible for any gauge. I’d hate to give up the shooting of the smaller gauges but is there even such a thing as a subsonic steel 12gauge cartridge?
thinking about it, I'm not sure a good subsonic steel load is possible. I think an alternative material may be required, I've been testing some cartridges using a mix of bismuth, tin, aluminium and zinc, this could work, granted its more expensive than lead or steel.
@@IRateGuns Thanks, I think you’re right which is a great pity. Just my opinion but I think “noise” is a bigger enemy to our sport than the move to steel. We might not like it but we can work around the lead issue - we’re doing - but in this crowded little island we participate in a politically incorrect pastime and under attack on every front and what makes it worse is that we can’t do it discreetly - every time we pull the trigger everybody within 1/2 a mile has an opinion on it. I wish a bit more R&D went into sorting out the issue of noise. My clay club has restrictions in terms of when we can shoot and only yesterday I had to change plans to using a moderated .410 because the pigeons had moved to fields too close to houses to use an unmoderated 12g. Anyway, thanks for giving the question some thought and -🤞 - science/ technology bails us out before we’re back in the dock on the question of noise pollution.
It's not the A0 (zero not O) powder, the A0 has square flakes. The A0 is for heavier loads, 35gr+, can't load the A0 for 29gr as it will be way out of its specifications.
@@IRateGuns It's the 206V or D20V also from NSI which are disc shaped, usually the 206V/D20V doesn't have yellow markers, it has probably been dyed for the UK market since I have only seen the yellow markers in UK shotgun shells. Where you see V in the powder name it stands for Velocity, meaning it is for 28/29/30gr, if you see an SV that means Super Velocity, that is for 24gr loads. If you see an L that is for Low Velocity meaning for heavier loads, 34, 35, 36 etc. 206/D20/Drago are all made by NSI and they are basically various batches of the same powder categorised based on their burning rate (i.e how progressive they are). 24grains is about 1.55grams, the 206V/D20V are usually loaded at 1.40 - 1.45grams (around 22grains), but because it is a fiber wad without overpowder plastic, the dosage needs to be increased in order to cover any potential gass and pressure loss, hence the increased dosage to 1.55grams (24 grains). The A0 is for heavier loads, it is a very progessive powder meaning it can go up to Magnum Loads hence why it cannot be loaded at 29gr.
I use these in 32g 5.5 there a partridge cartridge without the 5% Antimony lead in a cheaper case I now only use these for crow shooting I sometimes use the 29g 6 for sim days or close range crows under 35 yards also fantastic cartridges at a sensible price.
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Nice job as always
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I enjoy these reviews and wonder whether you could give an opinion on what might happen to subsonic cartridges when we move steel. I shoot clays but also do some crop protection work for local farmers and while I shoot a moderated 410 for that I’m wondering whether ballistically subsonic steel loads are feasible for any gauge. I’d hate to give up the shooting of the smaller gauges but is there even such a thing as a subsonic steel 12gauge cartridge?
thinking about it, I'm not sure a good subsonic steel load is possible. I think an alternative material may be required, I've been testing some cartridges using a mix of bismuth, tin, aluminium and zinc, this could work, granted its more expensive than lead or steel.
@@IRateGuns Thanks, I think you’re right which is a great pity. Just my opinion but I think “noise” is a bigger enemy to our sport than the move to steel. We might not like it but we can work around the lead issue - we’re doing - but in this crowded little island we participate in a politically incorrect pastime and under attack on every front and what makes it worse is that we can’t do it discreetly - every time we pull the trigger everybody within 1/2 a mile has an opinion on it. I wish a bit more R&D went into sorting out the issue of noise. My clay club has restrictions in terms of when we can shoot and only yesterday I had to change plans to using a moderated .410 because the pigeons had moved to fields too close to houses to use an unmoderated 12g.
Anyway, thanks for giving the question some thought and -🤞 - science/ technology bails us out before we’re back in the dock on the question of noise pollution.
Seems a fair review
Thanks
It's not the A0 (zero not O) powder, the A0 has square flakes. The A0 is for heavier loads, 35gr+, can't load the A0 for 29gr as it will be way out of its specifications.
What is it then? It’s the only thing I can find that looks remotely like it
@@IRateGuns It's the 206V or D20V also from NSI which are disc shaped, usually the 206V/D20V doesn't have yellow markers, it has probably been dyed for the UK market since I have only seen the yellow markers in UK shotgun shells. Where you see V in the powder name it stands for Velocity, meaning it is for 28/29/30gr, if you see an SV that means Super Velocity, that is for 24gr loads. If you see an L that is for Low Velocity meaning for heavier loads, 34, 35, 36 etc. 206/D20/Drago are all made by NSI and they are basically various batches of the same powder categorised based on their burning rate (i.e how progressive they are). 24grains is about 1.55grams, the 206V/D20V are usually loaded at 1.40 - 1.45grams (around 22grains), but because it is a fiber wad without overpowder plastic, the dosage needs to be increased in order to cover any potential gass and pressure loss, hence the increased dosage to 1.55grams (24 grains). The A0 is for heavier loads, it is a very progessive powder meaning it can go up to Magnum Loads hence why it cannot be loaded at 29gr.