Wow! I never heard of this, but found it here, & what an intriguing story! Thanks to everyone for their contribution to this story, & thanks for the post!…✌🏼🇨🇦
My dad was staying with his uncle in his ocean front home in Sea Girt when the Morro Castle met its fate. He was one of the locals who was helping bring the people ashore. I remember him telling me that the majority of them were dressed in formal wear. The custom is to have a fancy affair the night before docking back home, thus the formal attire. He said it was just so sad. It was one of the many things thru my life that made me proud of him. Rest easy, dad ❤️
my grandmother found the fire and testified in front of the grand jury. she lost her father to drowning (in her arms) after jumping over board with her parents. she was an amazing woman that sailed the world after this tragedy via cruise ship, and always alone, a testimony to the kind of woman she was and will forever be. love you shorty. may you rest in peace my beloved.
Crazy Lee Productions your grandmother wasn't amazing woman indeed! thank you for sharing your story that is so tragic yet truly illuminates the spirit of your grandmother. all the best to you!
I have read three different books on this disaster, and am familiar with some of the names of passengers & crew alike. May I ask her name ? Was it Marjorie Budlong, by chance ? The Ward Line & the senior officers aboard this vessel were totally complicit in that disaster, in my humble opinion. Maritime safety standards were ignored. Most guilty of ignoring safety practices was her Master, Robert Wilmott. Upon the captain's death during that final run, his replacement, William Warms, was also lacking in a huge way..... God, I can't imagine the hell those people went through & witnessed in those early morning hours. Awful, awful, awful.....
My father's cousin, Dr. Strauch and his wife, a nurse were returning from their honeymoon in Cuba. They drowned when they were forced to jump from the burning ship. Their bodies were recovered and sent back to their town for burial.
Thanks, Joe Valenti. You made an excellent documentary. Having been born & raised on the Monmouth Shore, I well recall many of my (elderly) relatives telling stories of the Morro Castle. They didn't hold the ship's crew in high regard. One Uncle, a retired Merchant Marine Officer, who also mentioned his feeling the heat coming off the beached ship, would only refer to them as, "those G'damn cowards". Thanks for reminding us all of one of the Shore's more tragic historic events.
5 years later i just saw this. A former resident of Brielle, NJ the Bogen family was well known to us and the sucessor to "Paramount" , "Paramount 2" was a well known vessel to us. What isn't mentioned is that the Paramount put to sea in that nor' easter through the Manasquan Inlet, one of the most infamous inlets on the East Coast under average conditions. I grew up on that inlet and remember riding the crest of a huge roller with my engine screaming in reverse to keep from going over the top.
I grew up in Brielle and Manasquan. MY father had a charter fishing boat in Brielle. we rented a house right on the docks. The Bogans are a nice family. I used to do Mrs. Bogans hair. What a lovely lady. Many happy menmories
@@GraceConoshenti, OMG, I can’t believe it. My oldest brother & my sister know John Bogan. John is married to Cathy. Our family used to visit my grandmother in Spring Lake Heights every summer in the 1970’s. Best memories
A well told story, superior production values, lucid presentation and thorough coverage. It was time well spent and a production that will stand the test of time. Congratulations.
Thank you for uploading this - I really enjoyed it! I was stationed at Lakehurst in '75 and had my 1st apartment at Seaside Hts. - next to the fire dept.. Good memories!
I'm from Belford. Lived here my whole life. Been to Asbury many, many, many times. I had never heard this story before tonight. I saw a docu prior to this that then sent me to this one. I'm really surprised I'd never heard of it. My parents were born the year this happened, my mom in Newark & father in Union, but both ended up in Middletown schools. My father was a fisherman who also loved NJ history. We have those books that show the history of each town. But I never heard of this. To see the burned out ship mere feet from the Convention Center is very strange & erie. Very good docu.
I'm in the middle of "When the Dancing Stopped" by Brian Hicks, which is about the Morro Castle. I've lately been thinking the Morro Castle even more interesting and intriguing than the Titanic, just with things going wrong all at once between the captain's death, the weather, and the fire.
I've thought this for years. In fact, it's a lot more interesting than Titanic. I even emailed a big film company suggesting the idea, with no reply, of course. They seem to prefer remakes of old movies than new ones. Maybe the story is so bizarre and complex that it would be beyond them.
It was pulled off of the beach in the Spring of 1935 and sold for scrap at Baltimore. She had a sister ship, the Oriente, which survived on the Cuba route until requisitioned for WWII trooping. Ward Line, or US Cuba-Mail Steamship Lines, never resumed its passenger ship services but operated as a cargo line till around 1950. Oriente was scrapped by 1958. Ironically, the Ward Line had no reported major accidents or losses of life up till 1934. I think it was founded around 1905.
A very interesting documentary regarding the Ward Line's Morro Castle of which is known as NJ's Titanic. If anything given the events that took place I'd call it NJ's immoral castle.
Unbelievable story - - such an immense tragedy. Mind-boggling why this story, this horrible event, is not more widely known. Well-documented and factual account of what happened, and most likely what and whom really caused the fire. Just curious - - unless I missed it, it does not say what ultimately became of the Morro Castle - once it was taken from the shore where it initially beached, what became of it? Presumably dismantled for any scrap, or towed out into the open ocean and just sunk? It would complete the story if this was known...Thanks to all involved for putting this compelling story together...
The chronology could have been more clearly presented. It's not until 6 min into film that a passing reference is made to the ship "when it left NY," and then another one a minute later "when it left Havana," which I missed at first. It's not until 30 min that the departure point was clearly stated as Havana. A single paragraph in the wiki entry explains the sequence of events more clearly than anywhere in this film. Curiosity: the film gives the impression (until minute 36) that most pax were probably lost. It would be interesting to know a bit more exactly how over 400 pax made it out alive, given the lack of lifeboats. The film also wonders why so few people know about the disaster today whereas everyone knows about the Titanic. But the answer would seem obvious: 137 deaths cannot compare to 1,500. That said, an informative 50 min. The final speculation at the end was tantalizing, if not pretty convincing.
Americans might consider early 1942 when many thousands of merchant seamen died as a result of Admiral King's (USN) strategy. Many washed up on the Eastern shores of the US.
There's a great book about what you write here. It's called, "Operation Drumbeat", by Michael Gannon. It covers the U-boat attacks from Halifax, around Florida & into the Gulf of Mexico. It is a fascinating wartime maritime study. You could find this easily on eBay or www.abebooks.com
My husband had family members on the tugboat Menominee when it was torpedoed by a U-boat off the shore of Virginia. His grandfather was saved but an uncle was lost at sea.
If ever a man deserved the fiery pits of hell, it was George Rogers! I did a study on the SS Morro Castle in college and everything I could find made him stand out as not just an arsonist but many believed he had a beef with the Captain and had somehow managed to poison him. The man had the heart and soul of a demon! The one question I had as I studied what happened to the ship was "WHY didn't somebody think to close those massive fire doors?" That's what they were installed for.
I have a ship's clock, which was given to me, some 30 years, ago. It was said to be from the Morro Castle. What are the chances, it's authentic? In watching the video, it's hard to imagine, anything would remain intact.
Am I and my pal Steve Goodman (No kin to the songster) who read "Fire At Sea?" It was in the library of Haven Middle School in Evvanston, IL in 1965, so how is it said that that this disaster was "lost to history?"
I GREW UP IN SOUTH JERSEY & MY DAD TOLD ME STORIES OF THE SHIP THAT GROUNDED AT ASBURY PARK,,IN FACT IT WAS 1959 & WE WENT SURF FISHING THEIR FOR STRIPE BASS & I WAS 15 YRS OLD!! I COULD NOT BELIEVE MY EARS,, OF COURSE MY DAD WAS ONLY 17YRS OLD WHEN IT HAPPENED !!! 👌👌👌🌹🌹
If there is anything to learn from this, it is do NOT name a passenger ship with either the name "Castle" or anything ending in "ic", in all seriousness ships with these kind of names seem to meet brutal and horrifying ends....
My wife and I were in A-19 ....saw her into one of the lifeboats and I stayed on deck to help with the others. She later got knocked out of the lifeboat and lost in the darkness, drowned and washed ashore among the big rocks near Spring Lake. I was sickened by the smoke and fell in the water and later drowned, also washed ashore near Spring Lake.
" I was sickened by the smoke and fell in the water and later drowned, also washed ashore near Spring Lake." Are you a ghost? LOL! You couldn't have drown if you wrote this.
When I discovered (late in life, a few years ago) that my father had been a waiter on the ship, I managed to get four very good books from Abe: Thomas Gallagher, Fire At Sea; Gordon Thomas & Max Morgan-Witts, The Strange Fate of the Morro Castle; Brian Hicks, When the Dancing Stopped; and Hal Burton, The Morro Castle: Tragedy at Sea. The Hicks book is the most thorough regarding the role of Rogers.
That's why I don't help people I don't know. It always turns into you being a criminal. I called 911 over a down power line right in town and I assure you it's the last time I ever do that again.
This was a clear case of arson, and as for the ship,that was a even a case of scuttling. The crew had years of sailing should have known what to do in case of fires,or sinking but it sounds like everyone for them themselves
Life belts? Don't they mean life jackets. Sorry, but I found the chronology so disjointed I gave up 35.06 and went over to Wiki. One example of misleading info was the cargo of arms and ammo bound for Cuba. What has that got to do the price of eggs? The ship was on her return voyage.
At the time the fire on the ship happened, communism was just starting to gain a pretty good foothold in Cuba. The arms and ammo were being sent on the ship to help the Cuban government fight communist revolutionaries. As a result, there were a lot of theories and speculation that the ship was destroyed by communist sympathizers. Captain Wilmott even (falsely) suspected that one of his radiomen, George Alagna was a red agent that would try to sabatoge the ship.
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Rude and arrogant is preferable to blatantly stupid.
Needless to say once the position of the fire was established the first mate in charge of the,ship should have turned out of the wind not into the wind.
I too found the presentation to be a little disjointed. I first read the story of the Morro Castle maybe 30 years ago in a book on Maritime Disasters. Although there are many speculative stories regarding who or what was to blame for the tragedy, the fact remains that it is only speculation. The greater part of this 'documentary' seemed to focus on the effect the tragedy had on their particular seaboard, rather than the known facts of the case. For example, there must have been witness accounts from those who survived the disaster, that were given in 1934, so what was their take on things.. was there not a public inquiry at the time? Also, a reference was made to the FBI holding classified documents into their own findings as to the cause of the disaster. Why is that the case 82 years after the event. This would suggest some form of political censorship. Clearly prohibition caused more problems than it ever solved!!! As for the Radio Operator; George Rodgers. The programme tends to concentrate a lot of time on him, despite the fact that there is no evidence to support the fact that he 'might have been' responsible for the fire. You would think that had he been aware of the fire he would have made his way to the lifeboats immediately rather than waiting 36 minutes or so to send out a distress call. (The radio operators on the Titanic waited a good 45 minutes before they sent their first distress call). It may be the case that he later became quite a troubled soul, but that could have just been as well caused by his trauma of the tragedy, rather than anything else. I would have been more interested in hearing about the trial of the 'third player in our mystery' who later served time for abandoning the ship! What other evidence was presented at that trial????
Hides come on why not take them off? Scrape iron and getting back something from the wrecks ship owners; immediately then the economy was desperate for short term currency scrapiron+$$$$ the ship was already paid for including the $25,000 settlement..Greed we see here in action also....
This might be also said of those who write in sentence fragments. Old people make this uninteresting to you, despite the tragic story they have lived through & are willing to share with you ? You define ungrateful, and bear this in mind: your time is gonna come too, Dougie.... Hopefully, at that point, you won't have to deal with ingrates with needlessly condescending thoughts like yourself, dude....
Wow! I never heard of this, but found it here, & what an intriguing story! Thanks to everyone for their contribution to this story, & thanks for the post!…✌🏼🇨🇦
My dad was staying with his uncle in his ocean front home in Sea Girt when the Morro Castle met its fate. He was one of the locals who was helping bring the people ashore. I remember him telling me that the majority of them were dressed in formal wear. The custom is to have a fancy affair the night before docking back home, thus the formal attire. He said it was just so sad. It was one of the many things thru my life that made me proud of him. Rest easy, dad ❤️
my grandmother found the fire and testified in front of the grand jury. she lost her father to drowning (in her arms) after jumping over board with her parents. she was an amazing woman that sailed the world after this tragedy via cruise ship, and always alone, a testimony to the kind of woman she was and will forever be. love you shorty. may you rest in peace my beloved.
Crazy Lee Productions your grandmother wasn't amazing woman indeed! thank you for sharing your story that is so tragic yet truly illuminates the spirit of your grandmother. all the best to you!
What a brave woman. Thanks for sharing.
I have read three different books on this disaster, and am familiar with some of the names of passengers & crew alike. May I ask her name ? Was it Marjorie Budlong, by chance ?
The Ward Line & the senior officers aboard this vessel were totally complicit in that disaster, in my humble opinion. Maritime safety standards were ignored. Most guilty of ignoring safety practices was her Master, Robert Wilmott. Upon the captain's death during that final run, his replacement, William Warms, was also lacking in a huge way..... God, I can't imagine the hell those people went through & witnessed in those early morning hours. Awful, awful, awful.....
Did I communicate with you, 5 years ago about the clock, which I have?
My father's cousin, Dr. Strauch and his wife, a nurse were returning from their honeymoon in Cuba. They drowned when they were forced to jump from the burning ship. Their bodies were recovered and sent back to their town for burial.
Thanks, Joe Valenti. You made an excellent documentary.
Having been born & raised on the Monmouth Shore, I well recall many of my (elderly) relatives telling stories of the Morro Castle. They didn't hold the ship's crew in high regard. One Uncle, a retired Merchant Marine Officer, who also mentioned his feeling the heat coming off the beached ship, would only refer to them as, "those G'damn cowards".
Thanks for reminding us all of one of the Shore's more tragic historic events.
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5 years later i just saw this. A former resident of Brielle, NJ the Bogen family was well known to us and the sucessor to "Paramount" , "Paramount 2" was a well known vessel to us. What isn't mentioned is that the Paramount put to sea in that nor' easter through the Manasquan Inlet, one of the most infamous inlets on the East Coast under average conditions. I grew up on that inlet and remember riding the crest of a huge roller with my engine screaming in reverse to keep from going over the top.
I grew up in Brielle and Manasquan. MY father had a charter fishing boat in Brielle. we rented a house right on the docks. The Bogans are a nice family. I used to do Mrs. Bogans hair. What a lovely lady. Many happy menmories
@@GraceConoshenti, OMG, I can’t believe it. My oldest brother & my sister know John Bogan. John is married to Cathy. Our family used to visit my grandmother in Spring Lake Heights every summer in the 1970’s. Best memories
An absolutely splendid and riveting account of this tragedy.
One of the most captivating documentaries I've ever seen. Thanks for uploading!
A well told story, superior production values, lucid presentation and thorough coverage. It was time well spent and a production that will stand the test of time. Congratulations.
Thank you for uploading this - I really enjoyed it!
I was stationed at Lakehurst in '75 and had my 1st apartment at Seaside Hts. - next to the fire dept.. Good memories!
I'm from Belford. Lived here my whole life. Been to Asbury many, many, many times. I had never heard this story before tonight. I saw a docu prior to this that then sent me to this one. I'm really surprised I'd never heard of it. My parents were born the year this happened, my mom in Newark & father in Union, but both ended up in Middletown schools. My father was a fisherman who also loved NJ history. We have those books that show the history of each town. But I never heard of this. To see the burned out ship mere feet from the Convention Center is very strange & erie. Very good docu.
My Aunt Pearl and Uncle Herman were on the ship. They both survived.
Wow that is amazing!
That's good
I'm in the middle of "When the Dancing Stopped" by Brian Hicks, which is about the Morro Castle. I've lately been thinking the Morro Castle even more interesting and intriguing than the Titanic, just with things going wrong all at once between the captain's death, the weather, and the fire.
YOu did such a great job with this video!
Thank you all for your excellent research. A movie should be made of the Morro Castle - it is just as interesting as the Titanic
I've thought this for years. In fact, it's a lot more interesting than Titanic. I even emailed a big film company suggesting the idea, with no reply, of course. They seem to prefer remakes of old movies than new ones. Maybe the story is so bizarre and complex that it would be beyond them.
I first read 'The Strange Fate of the Morro Castle' (by Gordon Thomas) in 1971. A cracking good read!
An excellent book. I'm surprised with all the intrigue that it's never been made into a movie.
I'm surprised there was no mention of the relation to the SS New Era which crashed at the same location 80 years prior.
Love the story. I was raised in Sea Bright and always heard something but never the whole story.
Good documentary. Only missing final disposition of ship. How it was floated off and scrapped.
It was pulled off of the beach in the Spring of 1935 and sold for scrap at Baltimore. She had a sister ship, the Oriente, which survived on the Cuba route until requisitioned for WWII trooping. Ward Line, or US Cuba-Mail Steamship Lines, never resumed its passenger ship services but operated as a cargo line till around 1950. Oriente was scrapped by 1958. Ironically, the Ward Line had no reported major accidents or losses of life up till 1934. I think it was founded around 1905.
I just heard about the SS Morro Castle a few hours ago!
I read the book "Fire At Sea" in 1965-1966. It was scary!
Thanks for sharing. I will definitely check that book out.
Great video. So many thanks.
Somebody needs to make a movie about the Morro Castle.
I agree competely. Would take a big budget though so it's out of my realm right now...lol
A very interesting documentary regarding the Ward Line's Morro Castle of which is known as NJ's Titanic.
If anything given the events that took place I'd call it NJ's immoral castle.
Unbelievable story - - such an immense tragedy. Mind-boggling why this story, this horrible event, is not more widely known. Well-documented and factual account of what happened, and most likely what and whom really caused the fire. Just curious - - unless I missed it, it does not say what ultimately became of the Morro Castle - once it was taken from the shore where it initially beached, what became of it? Presumably dismantled for any scrap, or towed out into the open ocean and just sunk? It would complete the story if this was known...Thanks to all involved for putting this compelling story together...
Thank you Debbie Whitcraft, on Dock rd Beach Haven Maritime museum!
The chronology could have been more clearly presented. It's not until 6 min into film that a passing reference is made to the ship "when it left NY," and then another one a minute later "when it left Havana," which I missed at first. It's not until 30 min that the departure point was clearly stated as Havana. A single paragraph in the wiki entry explains the sequence of events more clearly than anywhere in this film.
Curiosity: the film gives the impression (until minute 36) that most pax were probably lost. It would be interesting to know a bit more exactly how over 400 pax made it out alive, given the lack of lifeboats. The film also wonders why so few people know about the disaster today whereas everyone knows about the Titanic. But the answer would seem obvious: 137 deaths cannot compare to 1,500. That said, an informative 50 min. The final speculation at the end was tantalizing, if not pretty convincing.
The Morro Castle is one of the greatest (if not the greatest) maritime "who dunnit" mysteries of all time.
They say rats abandon ships at the first sign of disaster. This was the case of this debacle.
Americans might consider early 1942 when many thousands of merchant seamen died as a result of Admiral King's (USN) strategy. Many washed up on the Eastern shores of the US.
There's a great book about what you write here. It's called, "Operation Drumbeat", by Michael Gannon. It covers the U-boat attacks from Halifax, around Florida & into the Gulf of Mexico. It is a fascinating wartime maritime study. You could find this easily on eBay or www.abebooks.com
My husband had family members on the tugboat Menominee when it was torpedoed by a U-boat off the shore of Virginia. His grandfather was saved but an uncle was lost at sea.
At 11:18 I thought for a split second that he was going to say it was awkward haha
If ever a man deserved the fiery pits of hell, it was George Rogers! I did a study on the SS Morro Castle in college and everything I could find made him stand out as not just an arsonist but many believed he had a beef with the Captain and had somehow managed to poison him. The man had the heart and soul of a demon! The one question I had as I studied what happened to the ship was "WHY didn't somebody think to close those massive fire doors?" That's what they were installed for.
Emil. An old, Polish name. You don't find many people with that name except the producer of this documentary and my brother.
read When the dancing stopped a good book about the ship
I have a ship's clock, which was given to me, some 30 years, ago. It was said to be from the Morro Castle. What are the chances, it's authentic? In watching the video, it's hard to imagine, anything would remain intact.
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,ay be a shot in the dark seeing as I'm replying a 2 yr old comment, just curious if you ever figured out the authenticity?
Am I and my pal Steve Goodman (No kin to the songster) who read "Fire At Sea?" It was in the library of Haven Middle School in Evvanston, IL in 1965, so how is it said that that this disaster was "lost to history?"
I GREW UP IN SOUTH JERSEY & MY DAD TOLD ME STORIES OF THE SHIP THAT GROUNDED AT ASBURY PARK,,IN FACT IT WAS 1959 & WE WENT SURF FISHING THEIR FOR STRIPE BASS & I WAS 15 YRS OLD!! I COULD NOT BELIEVE MY EARS,, OF COURSE MY DAD WAS ONLY 17YRS OLD WHEN IT HAPPENED !!! 👌👌👌🌹🌹
If there is anything to learn from this, it is do NOT name a passenger ship with either the name "Castle" or anything ending in "ic", in all seriousness ships with these kind of names seem to meet brutal and horrifying ends....
3:30 she's giving Alice from the Brady Bunch
My wife and I were in A-19 ....saw her into one of the lifeboats and I stayed on deck to help with the others. She later got knocked out of the lifeboat and lost in the darkness, drowned and washed ashore among the big rocks near Spring Lake. I was sickened by the smoke and fell in the water and later drowned, also washed ashore near Spring Lake.
" I was sickened by the smoke and fell in the water and later drowned, also washed ashore near Spring Lake." Are you a ghost? LOL! You couldn't have drown if you wrote this.
@@nedlee3000 what makes you so certain? we don't know one tenth of one percent about anything. Robert Oppenheimer
Is there any quality books written about this tragedy. I would enjoy finding out more.
When I discovered (late in life, a few years ago) that my father had been a waiter on the ship, I managed to get four very good books from Abe:
Thomas Gallagher, Fire At Sea; Gordon Thomas & Max Morgan-Witts, The Strange Fate of the Morro Castle; Brian Hicks, When the Dancing Stopped; and Hal Burton, The Morro Castle: Tragedy at Sea. The Hicks book is the most thorough regarding the role of Rogers.
That's why I don't help people I don't know. It always turns into you being a criminal. I called 911 over a down power line right in town and I assure you it's the last time I ever do that again.
This was a clear case of arson, and as for the ship,that was a even a case of scuttling.
The crew had years of sailing should have known what to do in case of fires,or sinking but it sounds like everyone for them themselves
The book "Fire At Sea" says the Skipper was disliked by his crew and dictatorial
of all the stories you’ve heard over the years about morro castle. what was the most interesting one to you?
Interesting!
Life belts? Don't they mean life jackets. Sorry, but I found the chronology so disjointed I gave up 35.06 and went over to Wiki. One example of misleading info was the cargo of arms and ammo bound for Cuba. What has that got to do the price of eggs? The ship was on her return voyage.
You're stupid.
And you are rude and ignorant.
They were called life belts then, same as on the Titanic. It's simply a slight shift in language usage.
At the time the fire on the ship happened, communism was just starting to gain a pretty good foothold in Cuba. The arms and ammo were being sent on the ship to help the Cuban government fight communist revolutionaries. As a result, there were a lot of theories and speculation that the ship was destroyed by communist sympathizers. Captain Wilmott even (falsely) suspected that one of his radiomen, George Alagna was a red agent that would try to sabatoge the ship.
Rude and arrogant is preferable to blatantly stupid.
Needless to say once the position of the fire was established the first mate in charge of the,ship should have turned out of the wind not into the wind.
Captain Robert Wilmot was my husbands 2nd cousin.
I too found the presentation to be a little disjointed.
I first read the story of the Morro Castle maybe 30 years ago in a book on Maritime Disasters. Although there are many speculative stories regarding who or what was to blame for the tragedy, the fact remains that it is only speculation. The greater part of this 'documentary' seemed to focus on the effect the tragedy had on their particular seaboard, rather than the known facts of the case. For example, there must have been witness accounts from those who survived the disaster, that were given in 1934, so what was their take on things.. was there not a public inquiry at the time?
Also, a reference was made to the FBI holding classified documents into their own findings as to the cause of the disaster. Why is that the case 82 years after the event. This would suggest some form of political censorship. Clearly prohibition caused more problems than it ever solved!!!
As for the Radio Operator; George Rodgers. The programme tends to concentrate a lot of time on him, despite the fact that there is no evidence to support the fact that he 'might have been' responsible for the fire. You would think that had he been aware of the fire he would have made his way to the lifeboats immediately rather than waiting 36 minutes or so to send out a distress call. (The radio operators on the Titanic waited a good 45 minutes before they sent their first distress call). It may be the case that he later became quite a troubled soul, but that could have just been as well caused by his trauma of the tragedy, rather than anything else. I would have been more interested in hearing about the trial of the 'third player in our mystery' who later served time for abandoning the ship! What other evidence was presented at that trial????
The Paramount is a awesome little tub lol
Most of the crew coudn't speak english. Oil based paint on wood paneling will burn fast and furious.
i am a child i even love the mystery or titanic
Ok give up annoying music or whatever too distracting
Hides come on why not take them off? Scrape iron and getting back something from the wrecks ship owners; immediately then the economy was desperate for short term currency scrapiron+$$$$ the ship was already paid for including the $25,000 settlement..Greed we see here in action also....
Where's Snooki and Jwoww?! I'm outta here
Unlike the tripe they act in, this is actual history
Too much video of older people talking. Makes an interesting story dull.
This might be also said of those who write in sentence fragments. Old people make this uninteresting to you, despite the tragic story they have lived through & are willing to share with you ? You define ungrateful, and bear this in mind: your time is gonna come too, Dougie.... Hopefully, at that point, you won't have to deal with ingrates with needlessly condescending thoughts like yourself, dude....