Star Wars Armada Rebellion in the Rim 2 Act I Round 1 Battle 2 ION Radio
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Welcome to the second assault of our Rebellion in the Rim Campaign 2: Return to the Rim. The battle for Mandalore begins as John and Captain Sloane attempt to subjugate the planet. Can Ken and Captain Afyon hold off the attack?
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Fleets:
EMPIRE: Captain Sloane (73/200/200)
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Imperial II-class Star Destroyer (120 + 7: 127)
· Gunnery Team (7)
Squadrons:
Maarek Stele (21)
Colonel Jendon (20)
2 x TIE Defender Squadron (2 x 16)
Objectives:
Precision Strike
Fighter Ambush
Superior Positions
REBELS: Captain Afyon (17/199/200)
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Assault Frigate Mk2 B (72 + 7: 79)
• Gunnery Team (7)
Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57 + 7: 64)
• Linked Turbolaser Towers (7)
CR90 Corvette B (39)
Squadrons:
Norra Wexley (17)
Objectives:
Precision Strike
Fighter Ambush
Dangerous Territory
0:00 Battle Report
35:11 After Action Report
38:23 Campaign Management Phase
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Despite the loss I agree with John, that was intense. The Rebels crippled the Isd and they were out gunned from the start. Jendon and Maarek are badass. Not too bad there Ken ! Great show as always guys!
Thanks, Maxwell. It was a tough one, however I was outgunned with squadrons. Poor choice of starting commander ability here - planning for later. John has stated that my game has improved since our first campaign and many of our battles are much closer (and more intense) than the score shows.
@@IONRadio He's got you on squadrons and hits for a ton of damage? Ramming speed.
@@stl-mp1jr If I could pull off taking out a Star Destroyed with a ram from anything, I'd totally do that.
Damn, I'm rooting for Ken each time. Talk about underdog story!
I appreciate the support, although I’m sorry to keep disappointing. :( I need more games of Armada under my belt, unfortunately the only time I get to play right now is when we record.
- Ken
Actually, I now know how Dr. Claw must have felt at the end of every "Inspector Gadget" cartoon. I'll get you next time, John! Next time!
Me: "John has played these games pretty tactically before. I wonder how he plans on taking on a small fleet with only one ship?"
Proceeds to ram the ISD straight into everything and somehow surviving.
Me: "Neat."
This made me laugh. But it sums up well my plan. -John
I know I am late to the party, but this campaign seems like fun!
Never too late to enjoy the campaign. Keep in mind these were done in the pre-1.5 era so some interactions (Evade defense tokens and upgrade cards) may work differently. Enjoy, and feel free to ask questions.
- Ken
I love these battle reports. You guys are doing a bang-up job! ~45 min video is awesome.
Thanks, Eric. Keeping the Rebellion in the Rim games to 45 minutes is fairly easy as we're playing with virtually no points. We also try to remove most of the "thinking time" and leave you all with the main content of the battle.
Question: Beside the length, what do you like most about the updated presentation style?
@@IONRadio There's a lot to like. The turn end graphics are awesome. I like that the post-game analysis of what worked and what didn't as well. Gives some insights for both yourselves to learn from, as well as the viewers. But yeah, you guys do a great job of cutting out all the unnecessary footage as I don't think there is any wasted air time.
Thanks for the feedback, Eric! It’s good to know that we’re editing things correctly and our initial idea with “damage reports” has been well worth the time invested. We have some new ideas for future improvements - hopefully those work out just as well.
I'm an empire player and watching the empire win again brings a smile upon my face. Looking forward to watching the empire crush the rebellion
Hopefully I can continue to crush the rebels bringing order back to our glorious Empire! Glad you are enjoying our campaign. - John
Great match guys, very entertaining. As a physicist I love that you summarise what losses youve had right down to defence tokens and shields each round - it gives a great picture of what went wrong, where and when. From a duo who record a lot of match stats, I can really appreciate that its a lot to keep track of and then present it so well graphically.
Ken, I sympathise with your loss here. I'd have said it was close to being in the bag for you, but just a few errors really turned the tide. You mentioned the neb B, but actually I'd have just sped up, now down, and past him to the side. Still may have died but less likely with his side arc (which he didn't want to use, he wanted to use the front). Also your Cr90 I think you should have turned inward to give a double arc. That extra 2 dice of hits couldve made the difference. Since you out-activate him so severely, and you have small squishy ships, I'd recommend having lamost entirely navs, outmaneouvre him. Nothing else particularly matters, maybe an engineering for each around round 3 to undo some damage. I'd also recommend avoiding the trap that seems to get you where you tend to waltz up to that devastating front arc. Go a bit faster a bit sooner, keep at medium to long range, and really drive the ships around the sides of him, force him to make tough decisions on who to hit whilst you are always hitting him.
David, we're glad you are enjoying all of the data we present at the end of each round. Being data guys, we felt it was a good thing to provide this to you all as In our view it helps tell the story of the battle. Having said all that, we're equally happy you find it useful and well laid out.
On to the batrep: Errors and mini-mistakes tend to ruin my games. I'm still working on understanding this game. All of the advice is great and appreciated. My plan was to try and force all my fire on to one arc, in retrospect sides would have been better. John has said before that Armada is a game you lose a lot before you start to win... I think I'm getting closer to the not losing part. :)
Thank you for being a part of our community, we hope to continue to entertain you.
- Ken
Great battle report, best I have seen for this game and possibly for all games! The Imperial victories are awesome and I hope that continues, lol.
I’ve been looking forward to this....
We're glad to be able to get this one out to you! Welcome to the channel.
My powers have doubled since the last time we met Sloane!
Great game, great content. The consistent Armada hit I enjoy. Best to you on all the work you put into the channel.
@@carlosalbelo7946 Thanks, Carlos! We really do both enjoy putting together these battle reports and interacting with everyone in the comments and all our social media outlets.
One day when conventions are a thing again, we look forward to meeting many of you in person.
Just reread this comment... Dooku reference? :)
These have been a lot of fun. Low fuel really hurt having to start of bunched up. If the Assault frigate and CR 90 had some room to fly and use their dodge tokens this might have been a win for ya Ken. You finally were running some hot dice just didn't have enough shots.
Joshua, we're glad that you are enjoying our bat reps and the campaign. We have more on the way and some of the upcoming battles are really interesting.
Low Fuel conditions really have an impact on some fleets more than others. I still lost this one in deployment - the Neb-B needed to hit the side of the ISD. The hope was to hit the front enough to overwhelm the defense tokens and take down the ISD. The fighter squadrons had other plans.
@@IONRadio You got the Shrimp fleet against this one next time. Luring that fleet into fighting over a point won't work and would turn into a very bloody affair
Stay toon this match up may be coming before you know.......
Awesome game gents. Very ballsy flying of the ISD. I take my hat off to you sir!
Gary, thank you for watching. I really was hoping to do more to the ISD by moving into “attack position.” This TIE/D squadrons did a number on my capital ships as well. Next time, I’ll have to be more cautious.
ION Radio it’s such a balancing act. I think as someone else has already said, rebels might have been better flying fast and out manoeuvring the ISD. But as an Imperial player, really enjoyed the game! 😉😉
Great battle report to go with the coffee this morning. Does anyone else feel like the fighter reward numbers need to be scaled back in RitR?
Montross at 30/15 I don't think should have been allowed to take as a round 1 base, sure as a border world like Lothal that has to be contested, but the 24/12 like Smugglers Run feels more appropriate with how quickly someone can scale with Fighters over picking what is likely 1 upgrade card from another win/loss. I think FFG assumed players would be pushing to get additional Aces, with these higher point pools, maybe it would have been better change up how aces can be gained or not having the ability to start with 2. Part of me now likes an idea of only 1 ace at the start but allowing the player a mechanic like spending a veteran token and the point difference to 'upgrade' their standard squads to Aces
Skaal, we hope that this batrep goes well with your coffee. :)
Squadrons definitely are the key to winning this campaign, and we had several conversations on how to manage them. We discussed everything from Aces to squadron caps to limits on new ones. I suspect we'll have more to say (and probably some updated rules) once we've completed the full campaign. We appreciate the suggestions though!
We are a little hesitant to do too much though until we know what rule and card changes are in store with the new upgrade pack.
- Ken
@@IONRadio Very true, nice to see that others are in a similar mindset
I think the reason squadron rewards get so high is because otherwise there are many squadrons you could not even get with point values of 10-12 points you get at best from other upgrade rewards. And since you can't go above 250 points, you just get a temporary advantage. But maybe that temporary advantage is still too good. One should only get 8-12 points (half for the loser of the battle) but can bank them?
@@DanielRMueller Interesting stat on that: There are 5 Imperial and 4 Rebel Squadrons you can get for 12 points.
8 Imperial and 10 Rebels for 15 points. For 15 points, you can also get a second Z-95.
Part of me things that there should not be points tied to the upgrades. Instead having a different prize for winning. For squads saying you can take 1 ace squadron if you play a campaign mission may be better. -John
Pretty sure that in the shuffle at the end of round 3, the Imperial player lost a token when it fell off the back
Wow - rewatched that and yeah the Nav token did not get replaced. Didn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but good catch.
It just goes to show that we make mistakes also. :)
@@IONRadio I'm new to Armada (so I was pretty proud of myself for spotting that). Thanks for making entertaining and beginner-friendly videos!
@@reubenm.d.5218 Thank you, Reuben. You may want to check out Episode 24 - it is done in more of a learn to play style that may be useful for you.
An imperial Fleet with 3 Squadrons of TiE Defenders is so OP and kind of game breaking.
This fighter group can be perfectly controlled by my ISD ii. I had different versions of it this fleet, but went with being able to command all of my fighters at once as being really important. -John
Ken: Dude, I almost had you.
Jon: You almost had me? You never had me. You never had your fleet. Granny flying, not navigating like you should, jinksing your dice like a mad man . Your lucky you got in range of the token and I didn't get those Decimators..... Almost had me?.....Now me and the mad Captain have to rip apart your fleet to see what we can salvage for the empire, see if there's anything usable left in this scrap heap. Ask any commander, any real commander, it doesn't matter if you stay on the map by a centimeter or a foot. Winning's winning.
Ken: Yeah....., but I almost had you.
Well... I almost got him. :D
- Ken
@@IONRadio You did almost have him. Four hull points is only a couple few rams and one dice face different. John is great, but I'm rooting for you Ken.
@@jeremiahwenneker5617 Thank you, sir. :)
- Ken
Had a question, when do your "Allies" come into play.. is it a set turn? and where do they get to deploy? I thought it was interesting that the Rebel player could use Decimators.
JuergenGDB, great question! This is covered on the campaign objective card "Recruit Allies." It states that at the end of the 3rd round allies are added to the fleet with the highest command value at distance 1 of the objective token. Allies are deployed within Distance 1 of the token.
At 13:13 or so, didn't the CR90 get a shot at the other TIE squadron?
Ordinarily, yes. In this case, the Nebulon-B was firing at squadrons. The first squadron fired on (the generic TIE Defender) invoked the Linked Turbolaser Towers upgrade. This allowed me to add two dice to the first squadron at the cost of the remaining squadron attacks.
@@IONRadio Ok. I love your games, you two have such a great chemistry. Looking forward to more.
Do you think you'll revisit the Correlion campaign?
@@TheEldarGuy Thank you for your support, we have a lot of fun filming these and we're glad our friendship shows on camera. :)
The Corellian Conflict... Maybe. We would have to overhaul chunks of it with house rules to make it more playable (or at least more to our desire to play it). IF we decided to put CC on the channel, it would be sometime after Clone Wars.
The Rebel Commander made some devastating mistakes lol
Yeah, I kind of fed John my Neb-B. Poor placement giving him my side arc.
@@IONRadio anything caught in that front arc would kill most of the Rebel squishy ships. Surprised you didn't speed up to get out of that front arc since he was coming in at speed 3. >.
@@swedizzle12 Hard to play this scenario without taking losses for the Rebs. Jon's ISD dice were super hot, which didn't help. Playing for the objective vs playing to limit damage is a hard choice. Even if the Rebs loaded one side, Jon could have turned the ISD to compensate. If the rebs moved fast, they would have passed the objective. Seems like a rough scenario that was going to end in a loss one way or another barring really bad Imperial rolls.
@@klinktastic In my RitR campaign, rebels had a Star Hawk and I had an ISD, and we played the prototype objective. I foolishly tried to get the prototype as second player, which brought me right into his double arc. It seems to me as if objectives like this really can help ships with good double arcs or gunnery teams to get the most out of their best weaponry if you can draw the enemy to that objective token. So it seems it might really be better to not try to achieve the objective and instead hope it makes your enemy predictable.
So I picked this objective because I could try and turn it against Ken. Most objectives will give an advantage to the 2nd player. In this case with what are fleets were I put Ken in a hard spot. He had to play for the objective or give me two decimators that I could fly after him for 3 turns. He had to face my ISD head on to do that. It was a very close game with both of us pushing our fleets to the limit to reach the token.- John
why did you not hyperspace out, watching as i comment, so maybe its in the wrapup
In RitR, the only reason to Hyperspace out is to protect your ships with a Veteran token. Ships don’t die in this campaign so there is not as much need to hyperspace out as in Corellian Conflict. Your opponent still scores points for your ship either way. It may be worth it to prevent your ships from being scarred though.
As I rewatched this battle, I believe I would have hyperspaced out this turn. I also recall being irritated with myself for not doing so the turn before.
the parts are really confusing and the thumbnail certainly doesnt help😅😅😅
That is an illegal move at 20:25! You cannot move your ship in a way that it overlaps your movement tool.
So because the ISD rammed into Ken's ship it must fall back to the next available joint. This is the only time that a ship can overlap the movement tool. For reference, the specific rule is in the Rules Reference, pg 8 under "Overlapping" - 3rd bullet point. "If a ship must execute a maneuver at a reduced speed due to overlapping another ship, it is allowed to overlap the maneuver tool in its final position." -John