Turning Boys Into Men: How To Master Power, Sex, Psychology To Stop Feeling Lost | Justin Waller
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By the end of today’s episode, we may ruffle some feathers, BUT you’ll have a much better understanding of WHY so many men are feeling unfulfilled, unhappy, and under-appreciated.
Justin Waller, the CEO and founder of RedIron, a metal construction company with an unprecedented all-women construction management team, breaks down why social media and social expectations are creating weak men. Justin is acclaimed for his well-articulated discussions on societal norms, masculinity, and why modern men NEED to realize their self worth and establish their value.
And if you think men are lost because of women, money and cars, think again! We’re digging into the ‘JWaller’s Philosophy’ to explore WHY men have lost their strength, their value, and joy and consider some options for turning this around.
One of my favorite quotes from Oscar Wilde, “Everything is about sex, except sex, sex is about power,” is the launch pad for an intriguing discussion about relationships, the power dynamic of boss-babes and men that aren’t masculine enough.
The central theme of our conversation today revolves around the necessity for men to establish and value their self-worth, aspire for personal fulfillment and learn how to cultivate a wholesome lifestyle.
Don’t miss this conversation about the discipline, strength and respect for men aspiring for personal fulfillment. If you were ever interested in the ‘Redpill’ or ‘Manosphere’ philosophies, or trying to relate better to the men in your life, this is the episode for you.
JWALLER PHILOSOPHY QUOTES:
“The more strong men we build in this world, the better for men, and as a result, the better for women.”
“There’s a really important part of the male and female dynamic where you get to be the hero, you get to be the one saving the day, you get to be the one solving all the problems.”
“What makes me happy is working on the man I’m going to become.”
“If you keep fighting you’re going to be really proud of the man you’re going to become.”
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Tom I love you but the uptalk at the end of your sentences kill my brain
I am much more with Justin Waller on everything….Tom’s wife is very masculine , it’s his choice, and like many guys of his age group very defensive of their wives or else….they will be facing something bad at home…. Sad situation, these women are running the show. 👎
Ew, man are not wired to sleep with as many women possible.
It means the guy has 100baby mamas & 100 children with daddy issues.
Because daddy is barley seen or gives them quality time.
+ He spread STD towards all of them.
Evolution is never unfair. Men use it as an excuse for having bad character.
@@sunflower-oo1ffI tilt towards Justin as well…in fact his experience with monogamy & women really made me feel seen. However, Tom just has a different balance of masculine/feminine. I think you’re diminishing his value & power assuming she runs the show. He specifically is the deciding factor when both understand fully but disagree, this was stated somewhere around hour 1.5-2, along with he’s the leader of the family. The thing is understanding where your balance lies…Tom isn’t some pushover, he’d never be where he is if he was. Your attribution & likening him to the pushover feminized men who can’t stick up for themselves at home, seems off.
@@hunterhemingway you definitely have a point. 👍
Great to see a mature conversation between two men who have differing viewpoints, but can maintain mutual respect while disagreeing.
This is what's missing in the world today. This is also where the most learning takes place.
these guys are delusional about there being "no master plan".. lmfao.
It’s truly disgusting, I would never give airtime to anyone who thinks it’s ok to shaft others. An absolute travesty
yes but its not 100% differing
@@cx_n1 what are you talking about?
I do agree with him when he mentioned how school holds boys down. I dealt with it when my son was in 5th grade (2002ish)...and his Language Arts 25-yo New Teacher gave him a C- on a project of his choosing. He chose Jerry Rice...made a poster board and wrote a report. I supported but he did the work. He knew his football career inside out, and was crushed with the "C-". I met with his young new 25-year-old teacher...she said that boys need to choose another figure other than sports...I said really, "So are girls being told they can no longer write about horses?" No answer, it didn't help it was a difficult year and definitely killed his enthusiasm about putting effort into a report.
SAT scores have proven males do better in Math, while females do better in English. Males are more left-brain thinkers and females are more right-brained thinkers. Michael Gurian’s books are about Neuroscience, a topic in find fascinating. He’s here on YT.
But I think in your case, the teacher didn’t know who the subject was, so that meant more work for her to research him for accuracy. And her youth/inexperience likely also played into it. And if I we’re you, I would have gone to bat for him, too. Most females, myself included, don’t take an interest in football unless the men in their lives do. I have no clue who Jim Rice is…lol. Females are more adaptable to men, but I’ve never heard of a man doing things females tend to enjoy, like making scrap books. There was one exception that I know about….Rosy Greer loved to knit!
Feminism has resulted in some female teachers being unfair to boys at school.
Wow how the education system tried to demoralise my son he was a lovely young man enjoyed education and was an A+ student top score in yr 8 exams
the yr 9 maths teacher was less knowledgeable than in him in subjects which drove the arrogance of the teacher to ridicule my sons dreams and aspirations he mooked him in class and made him sit in the middle of the class with all the students placed in a U shape around him he had a clicker and would click it in his face
It took me 8months to get to the top of the food chain in tge edu hiracy system when I finally spoke with the principles they put the teacher through a youth interaction program
Only to return to the school 6 months later with a bigger vendetta he ended up bashing a year11 student and got diss missed
By that time my son lost all faith in male educators but luckily through sporting coaches and parent support he ended up home schooling
He's now a apprentice Deisiel Macanick kicking goals
@@kristinapace That teacher either had Narcissistic Personality Disorder or he was a full blown Psychopath. That kind of maltreatment to a child is evil.
Your son, even though he’s grown, may benefit from some Trauma Informed Care to discuss any aftermath pain he may be holding inside. Men tend to do that because of the societal teachings of “take it like a man,” as if a male doesn’t feel pain, let alone show it. They are taught to bottle it. (Or they take out on others like the teacher did.)
Eventually, they develop and/or die from stress-related illnesses. Stress causes all kinds of Auto-Immune Disorders, whereby the body turns on itself. Drs. Bessel van der Kolk and Gabor Mate are leading experts on Trauma.
That may have happened 20 years ago but this breaks my heart, honestly. Masculinity is being demonised to the extent where it’s almost like a societal subconscious to destroy anything that’s perceived as masculinity. Boys can’t grow up to be men and be the superhero’s of society and their families, it’s all being eradicated. My heart bleeds for my generation.
I can relate to this. My kids mom lost all respect for me after she got her nursing degree and makes more money then me. Sad part is I worked 3 jobs while in active addiction to support her while she was in school. But crap happens and it's time for me to turn the tables again.
Broooooo,
How did u get over this situation
@@husseinserunjjogi3036real talk
@husseinserunjjogi3036 Clearly he hasn't!
I knew a few nurses that seemed ok , and they were really into their guys and stayed had kids. Otherwise, nurses usually flakey.
@@GoldKingsManfrom my mom who’s a nurse she said most female nurses value compassion over strength. Not how much you can give her but how much you can get your self. Speaking with lots of women in hospitals I’ve gotten alot of similar answers
I absolutely shuddered when he said "I want the ultimate divorce nightmare, because we're never getting divorced"...
1. Words have power
2. Never say never
Time stamp?
They're divorced?
This is a FANTASTIC example (in my opinion) of how men ARE being men! They both push each other on their ideas, personal philosophies and life standards. All the while seeking out the stone to build common ground and figuring out a way forward. It's not about the disagreement, it's IF there is something there that can be refined into a functional resource. I am so high right now! This isn't an echo chamber. Tom/ Justin y'all killed it, let's eat! 🍻 Cheers mates!!!
Men work things out. Women just argue and complain.
Perfectly said 👌
Love how you guys didn’t agree on everything but really tried to understand the other person’s perspective.. great conversation! 😊
Yes.
Hey! Thanks for your comment. Listening to the other person and having diverse perspectives makes for a productive and interesting conversation. I'm glad you enjoyed the episode and appreciated the diverse perspectives!
Best,
Impact Theory Community Manager
This was an amazing talk. I just came across Justin in the last month, and have been watching impact theory for years. I was getting ready for a bit of a clash on some things, but this right here is what we need more of! 2 successful people, with open minds, going deeper on what could've been left at surface level topics and drill down to the core of where those beliefs are at their base, and come out with a mutual respect. Loved it!
Two very different type of men. I'm more inclined towards Justine's type. He seems to have a different framework or moral structure than Tom. The head and the heart must lead!
@@TomBilyeu Always great conversations! I listen to you most mornings, thank for all your content!
The problem is distraction and immediate gratification through validation
when host talks more then guest
Let him talk it's important. People talk and listen
Probably the best conversation on the internet displaying how to have a conversation with nuance, respect and fun! A masterclass.
I love how honest this whole conversation is. Tom didn’t let him off the hook with his questions and Justin was willing to elaborate when needed. Great episode.
💯💯💯💯
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@@hughmungus431
It’s just an idiom for TESTING someone’s words, statements or beliefs.
When Waller speaks against feminism to women on other podcasts, he isn’t usually challenged… at least not intellectually.
Tom, on the other hand, is an intelligent male figure that is able to press against Waller’s statements, a sort of “iron sharpening iron” action, if you will.
The fact that Tom did exactly what women never do with Waller proves JW’s point that men need OTHER MEN in their lives as their primary day-to-day support system.
@@goldenremnant2610Tom shouldn't be debating Waller about women, Tom doesn't know anything about women, he's a nerd. He said "as you get strong and look physically aesthetically pleasing you will feel awesome" meanwhile he looks handicapped like Stephen Hawking and he said "if my wife leaves me the first thing I have to do is get ripped" "I'm smaller now than i used to be" WRONG! YOU HAVE TO WORKOUT TOODAYYY! It's too late for Tom to get ripped as easily, he's gonna struggle, and he's only getting older unless he takes TRT. You can't get lazy, or complacent, you have to work out almost everyday. Tom should be taking notes instead of trying to give push back, he should be doing push UPS instead
@@mushroom11g55Perfectly said. Most of the hosts in these so called red pill spaces are nerdy with limited experience in attracting women. They’ve learned from observation and books that describe how promiscuity effects a woman’s “pair bonding” ability. Tom couldn’t relate to Waller even if he wanted to. Women behave differently around beta men as opposed to alpha types.
I admired his honesty and showing how his values makes his life. They both show their vulnerabilities and their different views and respect to each other.
Totally agreed about the media taking away the masculinity of men and how sex has become not a partnership or getting closer to another human being.
So much to learn! Thank you for both🙏
He nailed the issue with where we are as a culture, right off the bat. It’s really hard for me to struggle raising a family and go into debt with a normal career (I’m a plumber) and then see people living the dream that did nothing. It makes you want to give up and burn the whole system down. It’s failed us…
What a beta male thought.
J. Waller is right. When a man improves himself, everything else will follow him. Your look matter, assets, and knowledge
But society is pushed against it that’s the problem. All media demonizes men these days
This discussion was refreshing. Let's teach big media and politicians to communicate with us all in the same way.
Stop looking at the media.
Haha
... politicians are rich puppets they will make it seem like they care, but they don't.
Stop looking at politicians. It is time to turn away from them in order to get rid of them.
this was wholesome and educational as hell, this is like a class on how disagreeing sides can work together to an even better effect that agreeing sides
My wife and I were listening to this together and we both agree wholeheartedly that the reason Justin wants other women is because he's not fulfilled in his relationship with his kids mother.
My current wife is the only woman I have ever been with that I didn't also want other women. She's the real deal. We are a true team and we are each other's #1. When you meet the right person, you calm down and focus on who and what you've got.
If you REALLY REALLY love someone, you give your entire self to them, not because you feel obligated, but because you cannot help it and you feel so grateful they are in your life and in your corner. You don't see other people as "options"...
"I have incredible sexual discipline" and "I do it because it feels good" are contradictory statements. Justin spent the entire podcast trying to tell everyone what a good guy he is. I've never met a great person that felt the need to convince me of how great they are, but I've met a lot of narcissistic assholes that did 😉
Justin simply found a way to rationalize his behavior away, and now has a community of other men that support that lifestyle.
Yes extreme feminism of today is toxic and hurting women, but it's also not healthy to Lord over women because you make a lot of money. That's not loving behavior. That's not a team attitude. That's not the way you'd want to be treated if the show were on the other foot, but narcissistic assholes thrive on this situation and behavior. There should be no gender war. All these problems are human problems and each side is framing the situation through an incredible biased lens.
True J Waller is a loser hahaha
tell your wife where you went the other day
@@seekerHuncho she would appreciate that I was giving your mom some well deserved attention 😘
He typed this because his wife was next to him when commenting lol
Did you purchase the first car you test drove and decided to keep it forever?
THESE TWO EXERCISED AND EXEMPLIFIED WHAT IT MEANS AND HOW TO HAVE DISCOURSE AND POSITIVE DISAGREEMENTS!!!! Two class acts and would love to see follow up podcasts between these two. 👏👏👏
Yeah def. Its like swinging dicks but saying mine is doing the job.
Tom, you really took me by surprise on this episode. I followed you a long time ago but coming back after a while, I’m shocked at your mind and how genuine you are. This was a very important conversation, and I’m grateful that both of you have had this opportunity to have this discussion.
You love that Tom gave a guy his platform to continue try to influence more men to take advantage of womens unpaid labour and for more women to fall for this nonsense too?! Same as how feminism is ruining men and women make it harder for themselves MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT MADE THE SAME PHYSICALLY men do not breast feed children or give birth or take untold time off from their careers to look after kids and nowadays the woman has to clear up after the guy too. I feel sorry for the internet generation and the brainwashing that occurs. People don’t know how to think for themselves and blindly believe things Misogynists or even feminists say
Tom is as sure as tomorrow
He is visibly very insecure. Body language, voice tone and all says everything
What a way to converse! Between to accomplished human that do not wanna convince each other of anything and are just present glad to have met each other or maybe just present, open and curious.
We need more discourse like this. Two smart men. Hats off to Tom for helping set this up and asking great questions.
This is by far one of the best conversations about masculinity between two men's. Respected to the maximum guy's
Two men’s? 😅
@@domehouse79 Two men's what? Also you missed 'guy's'
It's not. Listen to Andrew Tate with Patrick Bet David.
@@kevinhasafappingproblemm were your fingers on the wrong keys?
Two very opposite men 😅
Thank you Tom and Justin for being so open in this discussion. There are so many good thoughts and points that relate to real men in our day and age. Let's all grow and build to be the best men we can do that we can establish a new era of men who are unshaken. Let's go brothers!
One of the best conversations I've listened to in a long,long time. Earned a New subscriber 💪
Great conversation lads! I love the respectful push back on each others opinions, one of the best conversations I've seen in a long time.
Hello, can we get to know each other?
This is sanitized redpill garbage talk. This simp spoils his daughters but you gonna believe he isn’t the same with his chic? I see through this nonsense, he’s a simp pretender.
Love love love, you mist be one of the more ladilike
When I was 24, I was acting up to people who were older than me. I was disrespectful and they put me in my place with aggression and violence, it worked well enough for me to develop respect for other people and their right to a peaceful life free from my disturbance. So their aggression helped me learn to respect someone's boundaries. Too much violence would have been unnecessary, a little violence without harsh consequences at that age was just right to shift my trajectory on a path of humbleness and learning to become a better individual.
What was the lows of this violence and the highs?
You mean 2-4, right?
When I was 15 I punched a guys face for talking a whole lot of shit to my friend and my school in general. I identified with my school at the time because I guess it’s that tribal instinct to protect your territory that you represent. Safe to say after that punch he started being docile and humble and learnt to respect people
Damn that’s pretty late to learn to respect boundaries
@@user-ui4cu6fy4iI agree seems late, but we’re watching it across the US. And once it’s the real world versus siblings/parents/friends it can destroy lives. Jail time or someone else who doesn’t stop.
Love this interview. So many great points which sparked SO many conversations I had with men.
I do understand where he was going w/don’t put yourself into situations w/temptation. However, you do need a level of trust that you & your partner have built. (Solid & strong foundation).
I don’t, actively seek out or put myself into environments that I don’t need to be in. Like clubs or bars on a weekly or monthly basis when I’m in a committed relationship. I can just as easily have a “ girls night” at a restaurant or someone’s home instead of a bar.
Discussions at length need to be had on what’s acceptable when I comes to micro cheating or social media. Me liking or commenting on a post “isn’t cheating “. Sliding into someone’s DM’s is now crossing a line. Have those conversations often.
Micro cheating? What is that?
@@MixiestAif sadia khan sits publicly in a podcast with tom and discusses the clitoris with him e.g.
Anything that crosses boundaries.
Liking posts that are thirst traps like shirtless pics or revealing photos meant to attract the opposite gender is cheating.
So many good points ,all I can say is great job you two good men ,you both said exactly what you meant. You were both right on point with your true feeling as during the discussions, you guys both make glad to listen to tonight's discussions I have to say I envy you both .Thank you so much for speaking your minds on so many things . IT was clear that you were both were giving truthful comments and talking Un rehearsed on so many things I wish all men and women could have heen able to tune in to tonight's show but thank you so much for what your doing I truly thing your making a big difference in today's society for both men and women that listen to your all you r inputs and bearing your souls in front of so many ,it's really as though you were the two of you in a room with no listeners or forgot you were doing a show .We all need to hear more of you on so many issues but tonight's program was.......epic. and sensational Thank you so much for bring REAL. William Henry alias billyjack was stage name long ago..
I love how they communicate and clarify with each other, and acknowledge emotions and personal values, instead of pretending they’re hyper masculine men that are strong and feel nothing
All people feel it’s just some choose not to show it often to most or are learning ways to communicate in a way they know how. It’s important to be patient with others especially those we don’t agree with or understand. Have a Great day good share btw
Seeming 'Hyper strong and feel[ing] nothing' is consistent with: I will do, and won't dwell in what isn't doing. So, for example, that person is not necessarily interested in discussing feelings about the shed he hasn't finished. One affects, wants to affect, and has time for affecting -- less for, say, commiserating.
If they seem a bit outside of that frame it's because, for one thing, they're diagnosing.
These two have reached the age where their self-respect comes before pretty much everything else.
Tom getting in the social/political space is truly awsome. Nuanced, disagreeable but not needlessly and brilliant. Love it.
The genuine deep emotion behind that first response. Brought a tear to my eye. 2:13:18
This conversation showed the level of control and intelligence both these men have. Great interview by Tom respect. Justin is a G.
This is how conversations should be communicated! I love the different view points. If everyone thought and felt exactly the same there would be clones of yourself running around everywhere...
The type of man that society needs is being interviewed by the type of man that society currently thinks they want. I'm glad that my father reflected the man on the left. It's made me the resilient and successful person that I am.
Society desperately needs more strong men that aren't afraid to champion the qualities that make men so valuable to the overall equation. It's incredibly one-sided at the moment, and it's led to countless societal issues.
Great session! One of the best in 2023! 🙏🏾
Masculinity is necessary to guide little girls now a days into not being little ig models and only fan girls. It is needed Tom. You don't have children, do you know what children go through now a days that only a strong father can offer and be respected.
** I'm a female and I grew up with a strong father
Yep. Needs to be a balance. Masculinity is def lacking
Right, Tom is exactly the type of Man that's ruining America.
"You must work hard to garner a set of skills that allow you to serve yourself and other people in a way that you find exciting. If you do that and you are making progress towards getting better at helping people at something that you are excited about you will even in moments of grief (pain and suffering) have fulfillment." -Tom
Self-fulfillment is the optimal neurological state. This is gold.
This was cool to listen too, kudos to both of you for being adults, crazy we live in a world where seeing this is not the norm, where I feel the need to make a comment about it. This does leave hope on the table for me I believe.
This couldn't be more timely. Thank you
One amazing man-to-man conversation. Love the honesty and respect between these two.
@@GarfieldDonatello89 This is for guys who dont have a father or dont respect theirs.
@@Person0fColor beta and alpha big difference
This has to be the most mentally stimulating discussion I have heard in a very long time. The way you guys respected each others position is just flawless. And Tom you are right on 99% of your points. 🤓
Justin has this calm and clear way to communicate. I wish I could be as calm and collected. Well, one more thing I have to work on...
Read the daily stoic
Great to see two people communicate and have peaceful convo with some ideas that dont agree. I agree with justin.
Love this! Amazing to have seen you grow so much Tom and so awesome to see you having real honest open discussions. Respect and thanks to both Tom and Justin 💜🙏🏻
Needed this unc. Truthfully, ima do my best to not make it too long. Anyway, the past 3 years, I’ve been very depressed and dealt with heavy anxiety due to my past actions that disappointed the ones that mattered at the time. And I believed that, I would never amount to anything. Fortunately, a real life situation ( nothing deadly ) changed my way of thinking last year. For the better, and have done the best I can to be a better man/human being. Started my UA-cam and rebranded my clothing brand. Most importantly, embracing who I am. And accepting the accountability and responsibility of my own inna real way. Point is: once I’ve done that, I slowly seen haters coming on a rise.
Great interview.
Im halfway in and this is one of the best listens ive heard in a very long time.
Wow I really impressed with this man Justine Waller!! Will have to check him out! As a woman I love he see things, he thinks and we need such men today!!!
Women need men like him!
I have never listened to Mr. Waller and am very new to Impact Theory itself, but as an admirer of complex, respectful conversation, I wanted to thank you both for such an engaging podcast. I subscribed because I like the confidence of Mr. Bilyeu without defaulting to tiresome arrogance and aggression. Too many interviewers are pedaling cartoonish personalities for views. i think every person can benefit from listening to non-judgmental, open-minded conversation. That's where the true salesmanship of Mr. Bilyeu is so evident and yet still welcome. He's worth buying into as an influencer.
Waller is a HORRIBLE toxic person. His energy is so disrespectful and fragile when interacting with women. These toxic dudes only act civil and respectful when talking to men.
@@thezu9250😂😂 you're a clown 🤡
Incredibly important conversation, thanks for having Justin on the podcast 💪🏻
One of the best interviews I have seen.
Another great Justin Waller interview! A lot to learn from that man!
Best conversation between 2 man with disagreement about masculinity, truly amazing. I myself agree with Justin. But man how perfectly calm and concrete answeres as to their viewpoints they are giving is just amazing. I usually hate this topic because its just a scream festival saying: "I know better". These great man really listen and try to understand eachother and even if the other changes their view on a little point they are respecting it and change their view. These are the real man we need more of. I love it!❤
Great video! The amount of self-reflection I was able to obtain, i am very grateful! A dynamic conversation but way deeper than surface levels. I mean, there was something weird that i was just being lifted up by the back and forth. Tom i like how this channel always is elevating my Conscious.
1. There is nothing that says even if you have kids, you’ll have grandchildren.
2. Even if you are a fantastic parent, doesn’t mean your kids will be good humans
3. Having kids doesn’t insure that you’ll be taken care of as an elderly person
4. Kids don’t insure you won’t be lonely if you end up alone.
5. Having kids doesn’t mean they will bring you joy.
Really enjoyed the little snippets of the podcast between all the adverts.
I have been watching this podcast in sections. For two weeks. I get so upset and cry and yell at my TV because of my own experiences I'm having. This podcast has really been so helpful. I didnt really understand until now. If I had really understood the hearts and minds of men when I was young enough still. I never would have gotten married, lived with or seriously dated a single person ever. Men are lovely. I get it now.
What's your email or i.g. am going to tap in...all respect
Civilization at its best! Such a beautiful conversation and so much value in it! Thank you Tom 🙏🏾
Civil grown up debate without emotion fuelled conflict although there were differences of opinion. Some of which could have been taken quite personally. Brilliant to see. Great episode. Respect to both gents.
Wow one of the best interviews ever!!!
I too spent years in an environment that was brutal and shaped me into a man. It was called being an Airborne Ranger. All young men need to experience a huge challenge in their lives in order to become a monster and then to tame that monster through the implementation of personal values, goals, and service.
I did that for years, it’s called a small business
I’m a woman and I agree 100% with what Justin Waller is saying and I don’t view his views and red pill as the same though there is overlap. This was a very nuanced discussion that most people are too lazy or too traumatized to have. Loved it!
Wow, this is a great conversation.
Loving these podcast
This has been a good observation of two men having a healthy conversation. I appreciate the knowledge presented from both sides, and this aids in the journey. I will be forever grateful for this insight.
dude, the way Tom handles this conversation is flawless. you can see the gap between the level of confidence and security of the two wowww!!!! Stay being you Tom
I don't necessarily think that there is a gap. I feel like these two people have a different way of viewing the world. Tom is more theoretical, and Justin is practical. Not to say one is better than the other but I personally relate to Justin. Also it will be much easier to apply the things he says to my life and get actual results.
Man, you are a bot. For real! You like how Tom speaks? If Justin was not in the podcast I would never listen to it... Tom is BETA!
An exciting and intellectual debate! Great!
Damn. Super powerful. Thank you.
An interview that all MEN need!!! Shout out to Tom and JWaller 2 real ones!!!
@JWALLER bro as a son and a father who has been through child custody battles with 2 women I have children with, it broke my heart and made my eyes watery when you talked about what your dad went through. It also made me happy to hear that you laid off his house. I always give back to my my parents as much as I can even though it never feels like enough and that motivated me even more to do more for them. I’ve heard you on several different podcasts and believe you are a stand up guy. Keep up the good work.
I’ve seen family members go through the pre divorce, getting shouted at by the wife after few years to trying get custody of the kids ,it isn’t a great time for sure.
I had only seen shorts of him and wasn't sure how I felt about him. Whether he was a legit winner or just some internet personality creation to fill a niche. Great talk and great to see just a good dude spreading his own positive message!
Great interview
one of the best podcasts i've ever watch 💯
Love how Justin stood his grown. The conversation was very telling. Justin looks down and then into your eyes. Tom looks all over the room searching and then back to you. Body language of Justin … confidence. Tom …unsure if this person will buy this information. Fascinating dynamics when two people are in a room.
Tom is the type of guy that wants to say what makes everyone happy rather than what he actually believes. All the stuff he says are politically correct. You could say his content is filtered so he could pull more views
That is the difference between a person who is set in his ways it’s his road or the highway and somebody who is looking for other answers, and who is not focused on his own line of thinking, that is the sign of an open person versus close minded
Or someone making it up as he goes along. Set in his ways😂. Someone sounds triggered
Body language of Justin is aggression.
He will be a flash in the pan this was his 15minutes thanks to TB
The body language transitioned throughout the course of the conversation, what you said makes no sense whats ur point. Are you looking at this as a battle or comparison, or are you trying to extract the most valuable information?
People who don't have kids just will never understand the true joy of having a child...and IMO are missing out on one of the best things about life..
I think people want to have kids but fear the woman will take them from him and the kid will be raised without a father figure. I'd say that's worse 😂
Many women die from childbirth and/or suffered injuries & long-term complications. Why are you trying to convince women to have children in a corrupt system that PREYS on children? 🤬 You're not even allowed to "handle" predators when they violate your kid because it's against the law 🙄🤡 You made the choice to have kids now live in it but leave childfree women alone.
Maybe the 6th time I listen to this interview. Love it and im learning still every time more.
Very informative. A different side of Justin that people never see.
Our major problem is these generations have been raised by their mothers not theirs fathers,and mothers will suficate the male ego
So true
This is one amazing talk! ❤❤❤ This is, first of all, a lesson about how a conversation should take place in order to bring value instead of a ego combat 🙏👌
I'm glad Tom asked Justin about betrayal. I wish we knew how Tom would handle betrayal from his team or his life partner. I think I would learn a lot from the response. Thank you for this medium.
Do you recall When / where tbis was discussed? About 60% into it right now
This is what happens when a stoppable force meets a moveable object. Listening to 2-3 hours of sensible & logical conversations every week help keep me sane. #thisisnormal
This is how you have an intelligent conversation,. They were not "married to their ideals," impeccable listening, and respect. I learned a lot from both Tom and Justin. I lean more toward Justin but Tom got me to think deeply about what I believe and why I believe it. Great interview brothers!
Great video...Tom hit it on the head about the social media influence on relationships and the screwed up dating scene
Such a game changing conversation. To hear the view point on how both of these men see relationships and marriage and children is so critical and to understand the “why?” behind each of them made me realize how
much I share viewpoints of both of them. Great conversation!
Watching Tom resist the red pill and knowing what comes next in his relationship
The whole message boils down to men have to struggle to become great. Not all are guaranteed to be great just bc you struggle but you’re guaranteed to not be great if you never struggle.. just strive to be the best man you can be and forget about how hard it is and what the outcome is gonna be..
@@KingCrab85 Depends what success means to you. For me its not to have millions, super cars and sht like that but to do what i want when i want. All in all if you want something really bad you will work for it if not thats also fine but dont complain.
@mrjimenez That's feels like telling someone to play the lottery everyday and maybe if you're lucky with enough consistency you can win it's just very unlikely. Like who in their right mind would take that advice.
@@yellowdrangon it’s a lot more likely than the lottery bud but you can cry and see how that works for ya
@@mrjimenez11 I personally think your message is sh*t and it does inspire Men to become Great. You need both an inspiring and realistic message for men to realize their Greatest Potentials.
what a conversation between two verry different guys but very humble. what a great collection of life stories.
I am no social maestro, but occasionally, I will interrupt a conversation to restate what I have gleaned from that conversation. It lets me check to make sure I understand and provides an opportunity to be corrected if I got it wrong. We used to call it active listening.
Just racked up a ton of points on today's match, ready to take a shot at the Phone 15 Pro Max on May 10 📱💥
The Father vs Kid thing...that is a very interesting topic. I find I'm even more driven because I have kids. I find I'm capable of being disciplined even more. I found that being a parent (Dad) is the part of my life that I enjoy the most. Did I lose space? Time? yes. But that also happened when I got married. That is to me, besides the point. Kids further make me enjoy serving my family and being the last one to be served. Getting a compliment is enough.
The other part is the relation...the love, the joy, the doubts, the coaching, the learning.
But to me, the greatest thing is finding what makes them click and driving them towards unlocking their potential. Blank canvas...it's not about if they will make money if they will "successful"....! What I ask myself: did I make a good job at passing them good values and morals? Beyond that, did I steer them and helped them unlock their potential? That is what brings confidence, sparks drive, and paves their way into choices that make sense. The world is better off if people can use their talents!
I feel the same as you. Much respect. We need more strong fathers out there. The only way we will raise good kids is by demonstration. And that means having a loving marriage as well. In my honest opinion
Wise words, completely relatable this end.
So very true, I think the aggression part is misunderstood sometimes by those who don't have children. As parents, we have to discipline however I think people
Think of the extreme end When they hear discipline or aggression. The role of the father is so important and it is because they are not soft like the mother. I never understood this until I had kids. I previously thought like Tom, like all of that is not necessary, however parenting theory and actually raising kids are two different things.
@@cardioandmanifest and boys need to produce appropriate levels of testosterone. Sports and competition will include a level of aggression. Plus, it's good for kids to understand what makes them click but also what makes them get angry, so they have a chance early one to learn how to manage that anger and how to leverage from what makes them click.
Absolutely loved this! It's rare to hear people converse about masculinity without someone or myself getting too riled up. Usually someone ends up saying something that crosses a boundary or says something completely illogical and dumb. The respect, thought, articulation and tone of this entire conversation was what made it stand out. Much needed and appreciated. Thank you guys!
That's why these two, whole very different, are still both MEN
33:30 Absolutely right. Someone put it into this simple formula: "Strong people create good times. Good times create weak people. Weak people create bad times. Bad times create strong people."
I MISSED YOUR PODCAST? ARE THE BEST IN WHOLE HISTORY
Masterfully-navigated interview Tom, great work.
Thank you for this input. I’m 23 and I’m going through a pivotal point in my life rn and the advice that you two spread was phenomenal!
Yes most definitely I hope you figure life out my guy real talk
B e st advice: stop watch porn! Think of higher goal. Surve the earth. Find your passion. Focus on it and after that. Find a woman that compliment you, she will make you a better menn. In every way, let you grow.
Youre just getting started out.
@@eefangelinadont lie to to the kid ffs.....
5 things I wish I knew ( and applied ) at your age.
1. Alcohol is by far one of the worst drugs out there. Save your money your health and your time. Learn how to master being confident in social surroundings and with girls, without that drink.
2. Porn and masturbation is draining your energy and messing up your dopamine system.. It makes you weak and less motivated then you "could" be.
3. What you eat matters more than anything. Your body is your temple, learn about it and act accordingly. Only trust the advice of people who live like you want to live. One prime example of who not to trust. Bill Gates. Fu*k his medical advice, and his ati-meat / bug eating agenda.
Keep your testosterone high and learn how to keep it like that.
4. Quality over quantity when it comes to friends. Cut off toxic people right away! Even family..
The only one to save is yourself. That's the best you can do for the world. Billions of humans, yet one humanity. Be - do - have! Be great, strive for greatness, and great things will be yours.
You are the king of your own kingdom. Join forces with other kings and strive together.
5. Magic is real! Find your own version of "God". Praise the earth, the sun, the fire etc etc. They are beings just like us. But on a much larger scale. Karma is real. Study the mystics. There's levels to this game. "Know thyself" Be a Jedi and fight for the good and beautiful of this world.
6. *Bonus* Seek out awesome mentors / role models. In real life and also here on the tube. Fu*k whoever is on steroids and not being real about it. Don't do steroids.
Since you're here watching this I know you already on to this.
May the force be with you Jedi!
Thanks Justin for stooping to this level for the sake of progress.
Im a woman and im much stronger physically and i believe in the positive energy u put off due to being strong and healthy because u feel better mentally and physically. As a massage therpist and trainer. Ive never once met anyone who said they felt worse from working out
Last sentence is GOLD...
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Sory, but whats a woman ?
@@greyarea7689Gotcha moment , she can't answer
Justin is so well spoken, conducts himself so well, truly admirable.
Admirable is a stretch but it was a great interview
@@shangrila1559 you a hater bro
@@esairamirez6792 OR you are glazing the man just a bit too much. In every way, truly
@@Christian021R lmao agree to disagree homie, keep hating
@@esairamirez6792 fair enough, keep glazing
One of my favorite papers I wrote in grad school (MA in special education) was titled, The Condundrum of Too Many Choices, and even back then (20 years ago) it was clear that just creating more choice is not only not the point, it actually makes us less satisfied with what we choose. Too many choices is counterproductive to happiness and fulfillment, and probably productivity. We just need one, better choice, or, optimally, 3-5 choices is the sweet spot for humans.
This! Have a plethora of options (choices) can easily bring about the feeling of “what if” with regards to the other choices that weren’t chosen especially if you are not getting the expected results after making a choice.
Having limited options can put you in a mindset of “well, it was that or nothing. So whatever results I get, it is what it is.”
Now can you imagine how it is like for women who feel like they have many thousands of choices.
It’s called the paradox of choice and was coined since a time when Ancient Greek philosophers like Aristotle and Socrates lived
Who’s going to choose the 3-5 choices each person gets?
Gentlemen, this was indeed a fantastic conversation. Great points were hit on both sides. I loved the “husband and wife, back to back, swords in hand” scenario.
Fake scenario