What do I want in a mixer: a synth, a sampler, a looper ... I don't think so. Extra FX: YES! OP-1 Field (synth, sampler), CM-15 (Mic), TX-6 (mixer + FX), TP-7 (recorder) and OB-4 (PA) The TX-6 is clearly loosing its focus concerning the Field line.
I only got the tx6 to turn my tp7 into a tiny 12 track multitrack recorder. It’s really nice to use but I’ve about zero interest in all the other things it does.
i was happy to see the update, specially noticed usb-c compatibility improvements. i need to play more with the aux sends etc, i think a lot of potential there.
I just mean, overall. All similarities, and differences considered. Too bad Blackbox doesn't also serve as a mixer with a few tracks, but indeed, Bluebox is for that end.
@@BeepsAndBeats I'm completely acclimated to using external USB power, from powerbars, and packs. I have like 24 stereo ground loop isolators (GLI) in case I come across noisy USB gear. Remember, eventually that lithium cell inside, will need to be replaced. That tiny device will have to be opened up, and partially dissambled, for that maintenance job. Not that that's a big deal, with gear that has built-in lithium cell(s) because these days lithium cells last for quite a few years. My Roland AIRA S-1 has a built-in lithium cell, and it kicks ass! 😀
@@DetroitMicroSound yep, I also using powerbanks with my blackbox, but they could have do it like Sythstorm did with Deluge. Easy accesss for user batery exchange. But then I guess the size of the BB would be double ;-)
one small detail to be aware of- you can only record one loop i think? so when you play back a loop and move it to another track, you had kind of implied in your video something like "you can record different parts if you only have one cord..." or something... but yeah you can only have one loop at a time. for me the use of moving it to another track is because let's say you loop from track one. that loop will play on track one but as long as its playing you can't also hear the input on track one. so if your setup is how you have it in the video with only one cable into tx6, you can loop from that input, and then move the plack back of the loop to another track so you can continue having the track one input live?
never ask for "a few surprises" filip! ;) i can imagine the looper can be useful for more organic ambient type stuff, but i'm disappointed you can't reverse the loop. and pitching should be (at least) in octaves, not percentages. te should've looked at some monome norns scripts for inspiration. andrew cs' 'wrms' for example is relatively simple but extremely useful and inspiring
It seems they either decided to reuse some of the software they developed for the EP KO II as a TX-6 update, or they were working on this update and realized the hardware limitations of the TX-6 merited making the EP KO II. Probably the former, but who knows! An update is an update
Still no way to set date or even name on recordings on USB C drive. Can you believe it? all my recordings with one date … date of the TX6 release ;-) BTW this update was out few months already.
@@flundlip the date of the release is on the download page 2024.04.11 ;-) TE does send emails about big updates again sometimes months after the release …. to re-inforce the sells, maybe?
If you just let the drum loop play, you could have gotten a better loop. If it’s anything like the ob-4 it uses beat detection and is actually suuuper smooth and easy to get good loops
Yeah I tried that, but it didn't work like that for me, but I agree that would make sense since it has beat detection. But I'm sure they'll improve it later tho. I hope so.
@@flundlip it’s certainly an interesting feature. People cry about the lack of an output on the ob-4 but I think it would be harder than most realize to incorporate a beat synced rhythmic loop into a composition unless you were just playing over it
This amazing thing is also a little dum when its so small the rel things you would like to do are ot that easy, THEY COULD HAVE JUST MADE THIS IS LITTLE BIGGER so an XLR combi back and phantom power, with a screen you can actually see more, show WAVEFORM of audio and just all it has would have been a huge hit, for around 300 to 500 usd, but people over think things till they forget practicality and reality. people dont understand how to carve a name like Apple, Microsoft etc. why sell something for almost 2000 usb while its not something you can use with the stuff yo have, this forces to go start collecting tiy things that require mini or micro jack, sheezzz
What do I want in a mixer: a synth, a sampler, a looper ... I don't think so.
Extra FX: YES!
OP-1 Field (synth, sampler), CM-15 (Mic), TX-6 (mixer + FX), TP-7 (recorder) and OB-4 (PA)
The TX-6 is clearly loosing its focus concerning the Field line.
Exactly
I only got the tx6 to turn my tp7 into a tiny 12 track multitrack recorder. It’s really nice to use but I’ve about zero interest in all the other things it does.
i was happy to see the update, specially noticed usb-c compatibility improvements. i need to play more with the aux sends etc, i think a lot of potential there.
1010music Blackbox is an overall more useful, and fun studio swiss army knife, imho.
If it had a battery I would agree
I would say maybe Bluebox is more closer to the TX-6 as a mixer, but as for looping then yes, Blackbox all the way.
I just mean, overall. All similarities, and differences considered. Too bad Blackbox doesn't also serve as a mixer with a few tracks, but indeed, Bluebox is for that end.
@@BeepsAndBeats I'm completely acclimated to using external USB power, from powerbars, and packs. I have like 24 stereo ground loop isolators (GLI) in case I come across noisy USB gear. Remember, eventually that lithium cell inside, will need to be replaced. That tiny device will have to be opened up, and partially dissambled, for that maintenance job. Not that that's a big deal, with gear that has built-in lithium cell(s) because these days lithium cells last for quite a few years. My Roland AIRA S-1 has a built-in lithium cell, and it kicks ass! 😀
@@DetroitMicroSound yep, I also using powerbanks with my blackbox, but they could have do it like Sythstorm did with Deluge. Easy accesss for user batery exchange. But then I guess the size of the BB would be double ;-)
one small detail to be aware of- you can only record one loop i think? so when you play back a loop and move it to another track, you had kind of implied in your video something like "you can record different parts if you only have one cord..." or something... but yeah you can only have one loop at a time. for me the use of moving it to another track is because let's say you loop from track one. that loop will play on track one but as long as its playing you can't also hear the input on track one. so if your setup is how you have it in the video with only one cable into tx6, you can loop from that input, and then move the plack back of the loop to another track so you can continue having the track one input live?
Ah, you're totally right.
never ask for "a few surprises" filip! ;) i can imagine the looper can be useful for more organic ambient type stuff, but i'm disappointed you can't reverse the loop. and pitching should be (at least) in octaves, not percentages. te should've looked at some monome norns scripts for inspiration. andrew cs' 'wrms' for example is relatively simple but extremely useful and inspiring
It seems they either decided to reuse some of the software they developed for the EP KO II as a TX-6 update, or they were working on this update and realized the hardware limitations of the TX-6 merited making the EP KO II. Probably the former, but who knows! An update is an update
Thanks for this Filip!
Probably nice to grab something live for a transition.
Still no way to set date or even name on recordings on USB C drive. Can you believe it? all my recordings with one date … date of the TX6 release ;-) BTW this update was out few months already.
Really? How did you get it so early? I just got notified a week ago
@@flundlip the date of the release is on the download page 2024.04.11 ;-) TE does send emails about big updates again sometimes months after the release …. to re-inforce the sells, maybe?
no threshold for the looper that’s a big L lol.
If you just let the drum loop play, you could have gotten a better loop. If it’s anything like the ob-4 it uses beat detection and is actually suuuper smooth and easy to get good loops
Yeah I tried that, but it didn't work like that for me, but I agree that would make sense since it has beat detection. But I'm sure they'll improve it later tho. I hope so.
@@flundlip it’s certainly an interesting feature. People cry about the lack of an output on the ob-4 but I think it would be harder than most realize to incorporate a beat synced rhythmic loop into a composition unless you were just playing over it
Like trying to cut a hedge with 2 bricks.
That's pretty accurate
This amazing thing is also a little dum when its so small the rel things you would like to do are ot that easy, THEY COULD HAVE JUST MADE THIS IS LITTLE BIGGER so an XLR combi back and phantom power, with a screen you can actually see more, show WAVEFORM of audio and just all it has would have been a huge hit, for around 300 to 500 usd, but people over think things till they forget practicality and reality. people dont understand how to carve a name like Apple, Microsoft etc.
why sell something for almost 2000 usb while its not something you can use with the stuff yo have, this forces to go start collecting tiy things that require mini or micro jack, sheezzz