ELLE BRINGS HER CHILDS FATHER TO THE SHOW! | Tacos & Shawarma | podcast
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- In this emotional episode, join us as Elle takes a brave step, bringing her child's father to the show. Get ready for heartwarming moments, candid conversations, and unexpected twists. Will they find common ground for the sake of their child? Don't miss out on this touching journey.
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Him saying she is not mother material because she gets overwhelmed with her child is crazy. Saying she is not mother material because she is masculine and gets irritated and overwhelmed with motherhood is crazy. Every mother, the most feminine women, single, married, all get overwhelmed with their kids, the playing, crying, all of it. We ALL need breaks. And him calling her a chipmunk for wanting to speak up for herself and for things to be right. He loves to talk down on her. Truth is she is doing 95% of the parenting. And if you don’t approve of her having a babysitter, then pay for all her bills so she doesn’t have to work and can stay home with her child and be a mom full time. But she has to make money so who will watch her child while she does that? If you are the type to not approve of babysitters, you should be the type to have all her expenses paid. Don’t pretend to be against something when you’re not really about that real man life.
That part
Naw actually not every mother 🤷🏾♂️
It’s funny how quickly he went from calling himself “black” to calling himself “biracial a little”
Bruh said “hold up! You know I don’t f*ck with them”😂
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What’s the time stamp lol?
@@ASIAinsomniac 44:22
@@touche5029thank you!!
They're too much alike . They should have stayed friends and not gotten involved romantically.
Man this is the realest shyt said. I hate all my ex's because we have to depart our ways instead of being friends
That’s because women are acting more like men everyday 😂 This situation Is very common lol
Omg i was just thinking they remind me of me and my guy friend from high school that I still talk to on occasion 🤣 just not meant to be a couple but can vibe as friends and check each other when they’re wrong
I disagree, if they hadn't they wouldn't have their son.
Male and female friends don’t exist amigo
Because she didn’t have a father she should be grateful for the bare minimum he provides? Heaven help that child.
And the cycle continues
Just because hes a man that knows who he is, all i have seen is women attacking and belittling him for no reason at all. Lets go to school for a second I know it's hard to gain knowledge sometimes but let's try. In basic psychology because she didn't have a father figure in her life, basic psychology dictates that there would be a natural sense of appreciation for any father figure type around her. Everyone should be grateful for everything period. That's just a healthy mentality in general, anything more than that becomes entitled or spoiled because life is literally a gift and miracle everyday when you wake up. And he doesnt give the bare minimum the guy takes photos with his children. Try someone else you are just blatantly lying to again belittle and break down a man. Heaven did help that child. God gave em two very strong parents even if they are not together they are taken care of. 💯🙏🏽🫶🏽
@@ArchAngelHielI think you should go back to school and study psychology vs. claiming your opinion is academic psychology
@@kmariamv lmao some is mad grow up kid. It is basic psychology if you lost some like I lost my father your more inclined to be appreciative vs my mother chose to not be in my life so vs now the leaves. I dont trust mothers especially bad mother when my own mother doesnt have maternal instincts my mother is autistic. Even tho i know this im autistic and with psychology i can choose to do the right thing but ill still hold resentment to her because she could have did anything to gain my trust and chose not to. It is basic psychology you can pick up from any textbook. Just cuz you dont like it doesnt devalue it that fact. Grow up kid.
@@ArchAngelHiel I’m sorry I did not comprehend what you said and I have a degree in psychology. 🤷🏾♀️
I appreciate your restraint in allowing him to expose himself in the worst way. There is no point in arguing. He doesn't know what a single parent is and says he only sees his child once a week. The bar for fatherhood is literally under hell! At the end of the day, the child knows which parent is actually present and active in their lives.
Exactly I like the fact she didn’t argue that much. He thought talking more, and talking over her means he’s correct when all he did was expose himself. You can tell she’s become numb to his words. He’s a rotten human being.
This! At some point that baby is going to realize who is & who has been there for them the whole time.
They both clowns! I love how he tried to crap on her for not being able to care about his trauma, because she’s not black but when she asked him why doesn’t he date black women he wouldn’t answer it.
The same reason she not dating white guys
Would never date a girl like this I feel for this man
He mixed
Men do the bare minimum in fatherhood and then turn around and tell you you’re not meant for motherhood 😂 just need some help bro. Also the reason woman who didn’t have fathers are quick to tell you where you lack is because we don’t want that for our children. We expect more from you.
Doesn't date black women expects non black woman to understand black trauma hilarious 😂
Exactly 🤣 what a joke
Black women don’t understand the trauma either, even though they’re the cause of the man’s trauma.
Extremely
@peace4447 Because He Is Smart! Lol
@@peace4447 He Dates What He Likes! Why Is That Your Problem! Everyone Doesn't Want You! Lol
Your baby daddy practically telling you “You signed up for this” is wiiiilllld.
BUT CAN YOU SEE THE HURT IN HER EYES WHEN HE SAID SHE CAN NOT HAVE HIM WHENEVER SHE WANTED. DID YOU SEE HOW HURT SHE WAS WHEN HE DIDN'T TELL HER HE LOVED HER? COME ON... SHE SIGNED UP FOR THIS LIFE. SHE WANTED A KID BY HIM... MAYBE TO LOCK HIM INTO THE RELATIONSHIP. COME ON LADIES WAKE UP.
Don't take it out of context! He was saying signed up for being a mother
But she did. As a mother once u decided u are going to give birth u really have to think this is my responsibility with or without a man. Because u really can't depend on anyone but urself. Especially if a man has ever told u he didn't want the baby, cuz now ur knowingly put something on him that he's said he wants no part of. Not that it's fair but that is life. Even in animals.
This is why choosing your partner is one of the most important decisions we make in life.
This video should be a reminder to all of us who are unmarried with no kids. This careless lifestyle of uncommitted and emotionally charged relationships that the West promotes will eat away at you. It is a lifestyle that takes.
Do not be fooled by love bombing, keep your family or the people you trust in life involved, do your best to wait until marriage and understand what responsibilities are to come of you both as future partners and potential parents.
To everyone reading, I pray you are blessed with a marriage filled with a timeless love, an unbreakable foundation and happiness that extends to this life and the next ♥️
Love your comment! ❤️
Yes! 👏🏻Well said! We need to be talking about this a lot more to the youth. I have been preaching the same thing for years now about choosing your husband or wife wisely and I feel like the #1 most important is choosing who you will procreate with. Kids are not accessories, kids need healthy parents to stop this tug-a-war or passing on the generational curses because they haven't grown into healthy adults.
📢 Preach
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The part where he tried to bash her for not having her biological father in her life, but he is a half ass father
And “you feel like money. Makes. You. Unteachable.”
Which she perfectly segwayed into child support
To which he again overtook and dug another grave
He barely lets her speak and tries to control the narrative. He is exposing himself and I love how she just lets him talk even when he cuts her off.
your bias is clouding your judgement.
@@fakephoenixprince and what bias would that be? I don’t have a baby daddy, I’m not biracial like she is, I’m in a healthy relationship, so what would be clouding my judgement?
@@fakephoenixprince
Facts! Her comment definitely came from a hurt place cause im half way threw an i havent seen him cut her off yet if anything theyre both interjecting in the heat of conversation
@@judojack5123 Was about to say. I’m like, “Are we watching the same video?” 😂😂😂
@@Ispeakweirdo again, I think your bias is clouding your judgement. Are we watching the same video?
I am so glad all u non black women are taking these ain’t ish 🥷 from us. Thank you!!!!
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Yessssss!! This, lol.
😂😂😂 God, this will drive me crazy!!!
L O L
Yes
He sounds so arrogant/ cocky and lowkey a little bitter that he wasn’t able to control her it’s like he couldn’t handle someone who met his emotional match ion like how he constantly has to sneak diss her telling her she’s not mother material but still participated in creating a whole ass human, the shit you say is hurtful af this whole video shows why y’all are better off not being together.
But also leaves the child in her care lmao so get joint custody
Lol, he's looking for his non-black Coretta.
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Lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂precisely
why is everyone skipping over him saying she does in fact deal with their child by herself so she is a single mother. he admitted he doesn't do a lot and she has the child almost all the time. he's gaslighted her almost the whole time and bc she's emotional you think he's in the right, he speaks calmly and you think he's right.
Ironically he’s the emotionally charged one. Shes pretty chill
Exactly
He’s a manipulator …
Omg my life. Speechless
He's far from right but black women been dealing with this for decades I'm sure she has black girlfriends telling her not too take it there
I’m barely two minutes in girl…i am so sorry😭😭
So am I 😂
@@tacosnshawarma and everybody taking his side?! I KNOW you been fighting for yo life😭
girl!!!! I'm committed o watch as much as I can, cuz his ego is just....chiiilllleeee ....ick!
He’s her biggest hater and that’s SAD
Him threatening to fall back for two months so she’ll appreciate the amount of time he has the baby…. 😐 sir that would be 8 days 💀💀 sick asf lmfao then he doesn’t approve of her getting an au pair but can’t afford to financially take care of her so she can be a full time mom, can’t commit to a relationship with her which would give him more time in the home w the child and he can’t commit to caring for his son more than 1 day a week… she’s clearly toxic but that toxicity in HIM is what attracted her… this was so cringey to watch and I pray for the baby growing up in the middle of this pissing contest smh
Didn’t know how much this was gonna lower key trigger me but also put me back on track. Annoying chipmunks of the world UNITE
From the sound of it…. She IS A SINGLE MOTHER! Him saying she’s not mother material, but leaving 90% or more of parenthood on Elle is craaaaazy to me!
BRO A GAS LIGHTER ‼️‼️
Y’all TOXIC AS HELL
He never answered her question on what can he teach her lol... he completely danced around that question like a pro
How could he answer her question when she was talking over him
@@hpierce21bc his responses don’t have anything to do with the questions 😂
@@hpierce21 she is trying to get him to focus on the question. He never answers her questions directly, he just dances around it. This is not a real man, he is a joke
He has nothing to teach her because she will not submit to his will. Why should she? Just listen to him. Stop making excuses, saying she cuts him off. Just pathetic. I'm so sick of these crybaby men it's ridiculous that they don't see it. They should be embarrassed for not taking care of their own children. These mothers have to ask the fathers for money? How many meals are these grown men missing? These men have shelter and clothing, right? No one should have to remind you that your child you love so much and would die for is in need of the samethings you need to survive. I would be embarrassed. But they aren't, and that's pathetic and sad. But they want they world to believe they love their children and it's the mothers fault. Even though the mothers are left to actually raise the children on their own. Absolutely asinine and disgusting.
@@hpierce21u can’t be serious… he literally cut her off & talked over her all throughout the interview
I love how he's black when it came to looking for sympathy for his trauma but biracial when it came to why he didn't date blk girls 😅😅
And why would ANY bw want this pookie ?
Moving someone in cuz they have nice eyes is beyond stupid 😂😂
Damn
Corey Holcomb is proven right yet again.
She’s just like every other regular woman. They don’t think straight always messing with pookies and ray rays 🤦🏿♂️
When you have low standards for yourself, are used to being abandoned by others you trusted multiple times, you end up creating environments where you don't want people to leave; only for them to stay long enough that they leave you any way!
Imagine having your son once a week and telling the mom she’s not a good mom, but trust her enough to raise him… And constantly critiquing but doesn’t want to actually be a full time parent!
My BD smfh
Parents call teachers bad all the time when the teacher has your child during the week more then the parents do! Why is this any different? One parent can be non existent doesn’t make the other parent a good parent!
Always hearing her side but never know the other person side 💀
Imagining thinking you know the full story about someone else from a video… be full time in minding your business
Why isn't he a "full time parent" because he isn't with her. You people watch a few videos and think you actually know these people. Lol.
He’s talking in circles.
Sooo he has 2 other children (probably in Philly) and wants to be deemed father of the year because he takes care of 1 out of 3 children once a week for a few hours? Then told Elle that "she doesn't understand the black man's struggle" but opted out of blackness when asked about black women. He's definitely a Pookie. He uses his light skin, light eyes and height to couch surf. Also, he only gives money when she asks. If she doesn't ask, then the child doesn't receive because he doesn't automatically give to the child, he has to be reminded to. A drive by daddy that takes the child for a few hours (maybe buy them some shoes) then drop the kid back off at his mother's house.
...except he doesn't pick up the child , nor does he drop him off....SHE transports the child and does everything else too.... he's worthless
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@@smhart3278 😂😂😂😂
And these women think thier better than blk women when they get left babymamas too 😂😂😂 they get THE SAME BLK MEN THAT BLK WOMEN GET😂😂😂A POOKIE AND RAY RAY
you hit the nail on the head. I'm telling you this is why women who deal with blk males and especially when they have their children become sooooooo angry and bitter because blk males are overgrown lil boys. A lot of these non black women who mess with these ninjas (especially when they have their kids) are outcasted/disowned by their families and these ninjas will turn around and call these non black women angry and bitter. These women have not only been made single mothers but they're now left with no support system/village because of being disowned. THIS IS A CAUTIONARY TALE OF WHY PPL DON'T WANT THEIR DAUGHTERS WITH BLK MALES. Also another thing is blk women who marry outside their race especially white men have the highest marriage success rates. Black males who marry outside their race (especially WHITE WOMEN) have the HIGHEST divorce rates. In the last 20-25 yrs blk women have been curving blk males like him because of ish like THIS, so now they've taken their dusty shit to non blk communities and................same thing...same single motherhood, same dv, no child support etc. WHEW CHILE. I feel really bad for the host, she seems like a cool chick but she was a victim of "Tyrone's dust" HANG IN THERE SIS!!!!!! Us blk women who know these demons firsthand, we KNOW it's HIM. WE KNOW HE'S THE PROBLEM.
I saw the Bonnie video and was like hell yeah she’s not with the bullshit. This shit changed my mind. This is only a few minutes of their relationship but I can see some of the points he’s making and she just doesn’t want to hear it.
Omg you saw the same thing as me
Agree some things I was like yeah I get him but some things she said I’m like yeah that’s true
She doesnt even try to open a lane for healthy a communication and it being put on a podcast is extra messy
Imma need you to in point every time he said sumn that he was right about . Bro is a narc and a gaslighter he talked in circles and mad no sense .
SAME!!!
@@YamineRashed
Elle is a bird. He’s a nug nug. They deserve each other. 😂
😂😂😂 omg
The other interview she was saying she don't need a man all she needs is money. She kept saying it over and over so yeah I believe everything he is saying.
Tf is a nug nug?
What 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@thetruthsayer8347a nut job
Wanting your child’s father to take your child more often but not allow him to visit his father’s family in another state is wild.
they do it all the time
Shut up no one cares what you think
@@djundaworld facts and it’s unfortunate
You can’t really micro manage the child’s time with his dad. Let him take him where he needs to take him, as a mother I know it’s hard to be away from your child but you’re not together.
Look here as women we need to understand the child has the same right to spend time with you as well as his dad.
It’s really not about who spends money. Kids don’t know about money.
Remember, not all men stick around for their kids. Your sons got a dad who wants to be there and you’re out here setting borders 😮💨
@@tacosnshawarma apparently people agree 🤷🏽♂️. Hopefully one day you will let that bitterness go and see the bigger picture.
Shout out to non-Black women for bearing this burden that Black women have dealt with for SO long 🙏
Shout out to the black women that picked poorly and now realize their mistake.
Self imposed burden. Black women choose these men and toxic lifestyle. We're gonna start telling the truth about y'all.
As usual, say you don't like black women without saying it. How does a black woman get dragged in this convo already?
@@dacallins0884picking any of y’all is a 99% mistake 😅
@@chiobabe2180yet we still get picked and you get murdered
to all of the BM that do not date BW, thank you!! keep your dust and trauma over there with Becky nem, we good over here!!
Lmao yessss 😭😭😭💯💯
Prada yall 🎉🎉🎉
😂😂😂where is Cyn g
Periodttttt ❤
A single mother is a mother that’s not with or in a relationship with the father but he’s also a single father.
True a single father who has his son way less than the single mother. Single mothers tend to take on more responsibility as they’re usually with them most. So yes he’s a single father but those two things don’t really equal out lolll
@@GoddessAnonymoustheres a lot of context missing from that statement coz in a traditional household the mother is usually with the kid more than the father coz hes out breadwinning. And in the case of divorce the man is usually on the hook for child support anyway...so he cant always be there coz he has to work and provide sometimes without even the guarantee of custody.
@@collinsmugodo380mothers also work, take care of the child, the house, etc. Are “traditional” households majority in this country? How many households depend only on the man’s income? Some men can’t even afford to care for a child primarily and that’s why mothers take on that responsibility when not married to those men. How many men actually want full custody of their children? Child support exists for a reason some women take advantage but is meant for the child. And having children takes more than money. Not just because you have the finances to have a child means you should be a parent
@@Mslee8320we could talk about children born out of wedlock separately...coz i believe in that case the woman should bare the majority of responsibility because she has the majority of the control when it comes to contraception if it isnt a case of sexual assault. But in the case of a married couple even if they both work...in a majority of cases...the man brings home more money than the woman. Its really not common for women to marry men that make less than them unless youre both super rich. And therefore the man should carry the majority of the financial burden for the household even in the case of divorce. But how the system is set up currently...an accidental pregnancy can happen...the woman can forgo every opportunity for contraception at every step and chose to keep the baby even against the mans wishes because the man it rich and the court system in terms of custody and child support is heavily weighted towards the benefit of the woman and only nominally is it weighted towards the benefit of the child. If you have stats that suggest that a majority of fathers don't want to be in their child's life I'd like to see them coz I believe that's heavily overstated. But if it's a woman's choice weather or not to keep a child born out of wedlock how come it isn't a man's choice weather or not to support that child financially especially if he can be denied custody in court?
Single mother means the father isn’t involved. If you’re talking about from a dating perspective, she’s single and yes she’s a mother..
He confirmed a lot of things I thought about Elle .. shot out for Elle for doing this episode .. it takes some guts
It’s the subtle physical violence threats, gaslighting, being in child’s life in spurts that make me see why she left his annoying ass.
He’s strong but she definitely dominating
Idk abt tht one…
She says she never wanted a kid but called him irresponsible for not pulling out 🤣 I can’t !
I see through her “tough” facade too. He makes very valid points and it’s blindingly obvious why they can’t work.
“Tough” facade? You mean her being difficult and masculine?
What valid points exactly? He whines about non black women noy understanding him then completely dodges why he doesn't just date black wmen then
Name one valid point
@@chance4827 One major valid point he makes is she wants him to take their son more yet she wants to dictate/control exactly where and how he does that. That’s not fair, he’s the father and should have the right to bring his son to his family home where he grew up to meet his side of people ….i can point out more valid points but they’ll likely go over your heads again because yall are looking from a stance of being offended for some reason…
@@ToriOfTheNile I explained the one you asked for in another comment here, have a look …
They should try to go for 50/50 custody. If he is so willing have him prove it.😊
💯she need to do this so things can be easier on him and he can truly understand how she feels doing so much !
You know how many dads would love this. A bitter co parent is poison to not only the other parent but to the child as well
He should he applying for full custody. He’s so concerned right? 🤔
@@WhateverLibrayou didn’t listen to what he said. He said she is a mom taking care of her kid is what she is supposed to do and she should not be complaining because that is the life she chose. He didn’t say he wanted full custody.
she wouldn’t want him to have that much control nmw, she wouldn’t do it
"I'M BIRACIAL" is taking me out tho cuz a second ago you was just Black🤔🤭🤣
a biracial person is also black. half black. so whats ur point? he said that in context of her asking why he dont date his own race. so black isnt his only race is wat he sayin
@@TheMariamMJ like they said he black a a 🥷🏾 now he mixed ppl pick n choose when to use that blk shit to their benefit.
@TheMariamMJ congrats. Then you're all of those things all the time. Instead, he's tryna pick and choose when it's convenient to fit his faulty narrative. That's my point. Sus.
He's whatever convenient.
@@TheMariamMJpick a side lame
😂 You can tell by how she looks at him she still loves the fuck outta him
Fr 😂
She can't Stop Laughing and smiling 🧐🥸🤯😳🥱🥺🤪
100%
He was looking at her the same way too though
I couldn’t disagree more
I would only dream of my BabyDaddy being embarrassed on my podcast😂😂😂 you win Sis!!
Why is he talking like philly is a whole other world that nobody can possibly understand 😂😂 its a 2 and a half hour drive from nyc 🤣
All hood dudes do that. I live in Cleveland they do the same lmao 😂
This is EXACTLY how my BD acts!! Down to a T!! It’s frustrating and as a woman u do act masculine because after you’ve been hurt so many times and let u down, cheated on u put up a wall when all u want is a man to be a man and let me be a woman n feel feminine.. but when u have to take out the trash, have to check ur own oil just the bare minimum a man can do but yet u do everything including parenting and work u might as well be the man too.. a stranger is quick to ask if I need help when they see me struggle even pumping gas..
These woman are lazy . What's wrong with taking out the trash.
What bm forget is if he wasnt conquered and weak bw would naturally be feminine bc they wouldn't have to play both roles. When bw date out they're the most feminine and follow bc their spouse is dominant and does the leading in every aspect. Chck the statistics. Can't let someone lead who cant even lead themselves and dont even make as much as the bw. Statistics say bw r the most educated and employed and bm feel bw r their competition n we're not.
And literally other races of men r so quick to help women. Wm have literally given me money and walked off not wanting shit from me. A yt homeless man has carried my groceries and refused to take food or money from me, meanwhile the homeless bm next to him just watched 🤦🏾♀️ homeless wm r more of a man than an established bm fr
Where do yall find these men? Nobody around me treats women like that. So how are you ALL finding these few men?
But she acted like that from day one so why would you be in a relationship where you have not healed? That is beyond dumb .
Dude has a huge identity problem, he spent time protecting all his insecurities as a man, father, what he considers to be struggle and its like he is jealous of her can't handle his feelings so proceeds to gaslight.
This guy is a real piece of work. She is too but he’s on another level.
The fact that a man has to ask the mom to be able to take the kid somewhere is CRAZY. Lord, send the asteroid.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 comment of the year!!!
CRAZY
It’s not crazy lol it’s called coparenting.
No it's not. Not everyone comes from healthy upbringings or maybe they're just toxic people.
There are things the family of my partner has done to him. That if we were to build a family, I'd want to present for every occasion they're involved in.
@@p.2606 but she doesnt have to ask him. its unequal and preferential
Your bd seems like the type of be in competition with u , ion think he gone too happy once yo pod go up more
She's not saying she doesn't like being a mom. Shes saying step in and do more than see your kid for a day and buy groceries more than once every 2 months.
These single moms are there whenever the kid is sick , hungry tired, sad , angry , happy , and so on. He didn't even know yhe difference between motherhood and mother nature 😭😭. Women please protect your wombs before you end up with someone like this for life. Also he complained about non black women not caring about his struggles but got one pregnant...... She even said he doesn't date black women. Seems like he should take responsibility for his actions instead of telling you too.
“You sound dumb” lmaooo🤣 she handled this so well
Felt so bad for her, she held her composure so well.
Thank you
Elle Ms.M’am you are amazing. The way you kept your composure. Girl you are my shero. I got tired of him telling you want you think…it’s not your responsibility to feed his Ego…sending all my love your way…keep making your money…he’s jealous of you
You need to ( read between the lines)
To what he says. Pay close attention and stop picking out what you don’t wanna hear , truth hurts and only narcissist women think alike
You missing the details I don’t think he was perfect but she definitely was a piece of work too challenging him being masculine.
He’s definitely jealous. & bitter
“I’m concerned” but move further away from where his son lives? Ok, that makes perfect sense as a concerned parent
What if the person has better opportunities in another state? Can’t make the man suffer financially and hear you talk crap bcus you want him to stay closer
@@tsunamipapi5099they don’t care
@@tsunamipapi5099then find better opportunities near your son, that your son concerned about…right?
I respect their ability to converse and at least be respectful with each other as co-parents. As a family therapist, if half of my blended families could talk for this long without biting each others heads off, that would be a W.
He’s doing his best to keep their business on the low. Respect 💯.
Foreal , cause we all know what that is one of two things...
Gtfoh she trying her best not to put their personal business out. But this dude don't know what a single mother is and started bringing up what he do and pays for concerning his son because he think a single mother means the dad's not in the kid's life. Then goes on to show how he's hurt and tries to act like she's hurt and needs him.😂😂😂
I thought I heard her say her Benz is 90k and his car is a 100k so why are they discussing nickels and dimes not sure what this means......
U can tell bruh on there dnt really do much for his kid , bare minimum but hey at least he in the child’s life
Telling her she’s not mother material and she has the child full time and taking care of the baby damn near on her own is crazy smh
You missed the part where she has a 10K nanny and admitted to actually "not liking the motherhood part" but whatever fills your narrative.
He is incredibly manipulative and secretly (not so secretly) hates her. If you don’t see that… I’m not saying she’s perfect not at all! But just about everything he says is putting her down with both feet.
He’s very manipulative and you can tell he came there with an agenda to put her down lol cause he says lots of things about her but each statement contradicts the other. As long as it’s negative about her he’ll say it lol and if she has a valid comeback he changes it and says “no, actually it’s this!”…then says the opposite of whatever he had JUST said 😂
@@GoddessAnonymous yes! you're very intuitive
She knows what it means when a woman says she's a "Single Mom"
Exactly
Her baby daddy just confirmed what we all assumed: Elle is masculine af
It also revealed alot about him too.
@@Star-wt6oxhow did it reveal him we don’t kno this nigga🤣🤣🤣she the one who been talkin bout dude
A white woman is masculine?? According to black men that’s impossible
@@Star-wt6ox like? An honest person?
@@tranejones416a hobosexual who uses women
Ladies this is why you don’t approach men first. If a man is interested he will go up to you. If you are not his type and you go up to him he already knows that your interested and will finesse you. Stay safe y’all 💕
He completely ignored her saying he don’t like black women and he ain’t have nothing to say about that
Why Does He Have To Like Black Women? That Is You Alls Problem, You Want Every Man To Want You! Sick!😮
In reference to the nature of motherhood it becomes miserable when you have to do it alone. She said 10% of the work he does. That means that 90% is on her anybody would be miserable
Being a "baby mama" is a choice and permanent side chicks!!
How true you think that is though? Mother hood and father hood different rolls different kind of love you agree?
And she has a nanny too or did you missed that? Men tend to have a racional mentality as to us women we can easily be brain washed, if not all is bc some catch on to things and are more reasonable. We need to be more reasonable and have both feet on the ground and live in the Real world, the world you are living ( Aka your life) .
And if you pay close attention to what he says , I truly feel he is not lying. Listen to him closely and you’ll understand what he means. A lot of women think like this women in the video and talk like her too and I’m not talking about her voice, I’m talking about how she presents herself ( literally) . And I’m o just like her and to be honest I understand him and he is totally right. We definitely delusional bc social media has helped us portrayed men to be stupid and useless etc
@@Tania-uf9unbut don't you think if the mother has the role of taking care of the baby for 90%that the fucking deadbeat daddy has to work and bring in the fucking money cause that's his role then shit tf. Why ya so stupid
@@Tania-uf9unhe literally threatened to fall back from taking care of his kid so she can learn to appreciate the time he spends with his own kid. 😩😂 stopp he’s a part time dad when it’s convenient for him period.
Poor kid.. if she gets so overwhelmed even with a nanny and she gets irritated when the child wants to play and do stuff and then the dad barely has him, he doesn’t have a chance 😢 he’s gonna have family issues fr
Yeah that’s pretty sad. She probably only had the child to try and keep him around or to have a piece of him in some sick way.
He should take care of his son more so that she has the energy to play with her son besides doing Everything don't you think
@@nadinepasa1097exactly I guarantee by the one day he takes him she's so exhausted from working and taking care of him she's irritated atp. 7 to 1 isn't that long for a nanny that's pretty much just a sitter while she works.
You can’t tell her to be a woman and follow you but she’s paying all the bills 🤦🏽♀️
Sometime we don't know how to following and if this is your man and you trust him while he getting him self together it's ok to pay the bills temporarily until he get shit figure out. Look we know if a man is bull crapping us and if they working towards there goals. If we make our self helpful to them they will never forget and take care of u. I love the fact that they made them self transparent to talk about this stuff. In my book this is healthy and I give all blessings to both of them and there baby.
Yes you can. If she’s paying bills while that’s going on and not throwing that in his face then they probably won’t be on a podcast as “single” parents talking.
No. He’s not a provider. Respect is earned. When a woman feels safe she lets her guard down and naturally follows her husband….he just said he got out of jail. That’s a mess.
That’s not the case though she just chose not to follow. Because the attention wasn’t on her anymore. The attention shifted towards the child. So she felt like she was out the equation
I think that her being older and having more money than him over time that chipped away at his ego. Which is clearly out of control
You procreated with this 🥲
She probably got slick talked and distracted cause he’s a good looking man
I know he definitely messed up 🤷♂️
My thoughts exactly....
I know right he should have chose better
Girl I’m glad yall not together because wtf is he on?? Also your patience is top tier Lmao
He is a narcissist and ego driven. Frankly on BS. Elle saw someone who was attractive and had potential. Once a child came into the picture she saw him for what he really was.
No he’s not. He’s just a man. She’s clearly the narcissist if you actually know what the word means.
I was abused by a narcissist for six years in every way imaginable and the similarities between him and my ex are ridiculous.
@@nolawolathe only narcissist is her she had the audacity to say her baby daddy aint around when he is quit lying
You can't say you want help and then not allow him to father the way he wants to.
Bingo
She is not comfortable with how well he knows her. There is a lot of love between them.
Definitely is. I want to know how old their kid is and if this relationship can be rekindled
No u mean she's uncomfortable with how well he thinks he knows her. Come on now dude don't even know what a single mother is.
Facts she’s knows
I think this is the truth for them, it makes them feel insecure, but if a man knows you that well. He loves you and you should be secure in that, let that man lead you or go fibd a lesbian to lead.
you peoples lack of discernment astonishes me every day like how much more obvious can it be shes CLEAR annoyed BY him thinking he knows her he doesn’t even know himself he doesn’t even know his own race he doesn’t even know why he can’t i identify internalized hate for himself by whoring thru women of different races and cultures, but not being able to accommodate for the differences.
u bches love to make excuses for these low life men who if were women u wld have all these negative things to say ab her, men having social awareness to know, and understand women on a deep level is laughable
He gaslighted her so much
Atleast someone sees it
Y’all got mental issues. They were both playing games
Gaslighting is not telling people what they dont wanna hear 😂😂😂
@@MissMFinDanielsyou could tell a 304, “2+2=4” and she’ll reply back, “Who hurt you?”😂😂😂😂
@@fakephoenixprince i guess that depends on your personal opinion of a "304". Cuz the actual sex workers i know are business women and im not talkin only fans luv. Sounds like you're talkin about a user
I just love how real and raw she is no matter what ❤
So she got the same black man.😂😂😂😂
Per usual 😂🤣
Yup😂
Always EVERY TIME
Things aren’t done out of love and good faith when you keep tabs
You don’t know what was done and where it came from.
I think he was so ungrateful she was reminding him like damn dude appreciate me
@@sammilee1232
It's not that you're ungrateful sometimes.... hell you wish they'd never done it when they weaponize or throw it in your face every chance they get....😂 make u question the motives behind the "HELP"
Nah, you takers are real life ungrateful and entitled thinking that someone has to do for you always with your hand out, and you never offer anything in return.
Here are the key takeaways from the video:
1. Elle's initial perception of their relationship, stemming from her feeling of superiority due to her financial advantage over Horace, influences her outlook on him regardless of his progress.
2. Elle's belief that Horace can't offer her anything stems from her focus on material wealth rather than personal growth. Horace aims to impart lessons on character, particularly regarding relationships and leadership dynamics.
3. Horace's background and assertive demeanor require him to adopt a more considerate communication style. Effective communication stems from care and love, fostering a desire for positive change.
4. Both Elle and Horace would benefit from reassessing their egos to foster healthier interactions and personal growth.
Boy you sum this up I agree facts
All that I got from this as well MONEY, MATERIAL, and how much money is being spent by who. This lady is the true definition of a modern woman.
She is still trying to insert her dominance over him. She don't and won't him to lead.
He’s insecure, this is why you don’t help men “build”.
You’re officially dumb if that’s what you took from this video. No one can save you.
🎯💯
I would never have a child with someone who says they don't want a child.
They are a key example of listening to respond instead listening to understand
Lawd this man is insane 🫠😭
First he wasn't paying now she doesn't ask for anything. Word play is amazing
Why does she have to ask? Who wants to go shopping with their ex just to get something for the child.
@@Que772 go make some money you bum 😂he literally buying everything for his son get money for yourself & stop wanting him to pay for your lifestyle 🤦🏾♂️you ppl are delusional
She shouldn’t have to ask.
@@Que772😭😂😂 tf he’s only responsible for the child
This guy was using her , and thinks he's better because he's attractive. There's more to a relationship then looks.
Yes he literally described women as opportunities for money
Dude dodged a bullet.
Yes. Yes he did. But still stuck with her for 18 years. Shouldn’t have dropped a baby in her.
he had a baby with her, he did not dodge a bullet, he took the bullet and will deal with it for 18 years
He hurt talked about their past the whole time sir let it go he hurt
How when they have a child together?
He’s a bullet himself 🚩
I just now watched this and WOW
dude… SHE is a SINGLE mother.
Why is that concept so hard to understand?
I enjoyed this episode. Shoutout to Elle. A beautiful masculine female! He definitely could not handle the force in you.
"Im not mother material?. Ok" broke my heart
One thing I gotta agree on is that if you truly wanted to help someone you don’t have to remind them that you helped them. Kind people don’t do that but people with ego do. If I do something nice for someone I don’t even care about them giving me recognition or flowers because my God gave his life on the cross for me and didn’t rub it in my face so who am I to not do the same.
When you help someone, it hurts like hell when they turn around and spit in your face. You aren't a bad person for standing up for yourself and asking for the love to be reciprocated. Humans flourished from TRADING, not just letting people take shit and give nothing in return.
@@monicac2834 when did I say anything about someone spitting on your face? I just said no need to rub it in their face or remind them “hey I helped you” but people in general what I realized don’t actually want to help people they just want the validation and sense of holier than thou that arises from helping someone. You know what I do when someone disrespects me after I helped them? I walk away and don’t rub it in their face because like I said my Lord and Savior gave his life because of the horrible things I’ve done in my life and not once has he rubbed it in my face so why should I do the same? I don’t feel offended like you do because I genuinely just like helping people and knowing I helped someone brings joy to my heart so I never feel that betrayal. You never lose when you’re a kind person. When disrespected just walk away no hard feelings because humans are flawed. You have your own life you can do as you please not saying you’re wrong or right.
@@monicac2834 “give nothing in return” like I said you have a different view about human relationships which I don’t agree is wrong but I don’t care about what other humans did or are doing to flourish Im doing what I think is the right thing for me. And for me that’s being kind to people with no expectations in return because I just like helping people I don’t care about the return because I follow the steps of my Lord. I have the lowest expectations from others and the highest expectations for myself. I see humans (myself included) as flawed. So helping people is just my way of trying to correct this error.
Facts if you mention it,it was never genuine
Jah know
Girl, I commend you! This is exactly why I am 30 some with no kids. I refuse to end up with someone one-sided. I want my husband to be involved as much as I am it takes two to instill into a child… no drive-through parenting.
No your 30 and some with no kids because no man of value wants to deal with your ass..
Funny, you should say that my mom asked me why don’t I wanna have kids and you know what I told her I have not found somebody who is worthy you I’m 19 years married but he does not want to have kids so we Gucci!!!❤❤❤ The younger you yeah, you mess around with these bad boys, but I have a baby by them FUCK NO older me now realizes in order for me to be happy I can’t be around those type of bad boys cause they don’t want to change. All they wanna do is break you and they want a mama.
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 this
Girl child free also ❤
Same sis! My parents been married for 35 years. If that’s not what we’re leading to, then I don’t want it. I know what stability and a real family unit looks like. Most men in this generation weren’t raised with the same morals and family values I was raised with. The bar is high! If I can’t find my equal then I’ll stay peacefully by myself as I’ve been doing. It is what it is 🤷🏽♀️
She backpeddling all the bull she's been talking 😂 I love this first 5 min
When you dont have a father in your life its in your best intrests to have even higher standards. Some of these dudes prey on women that they think have daddy issues
That part! I’ve had men get jealous that I have my father in my life lol. They don’t like when I mention my father or what he does for me. It’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen. They assume most black women don’t have an active father in our life when many of us actually do. Most of my friends have their father in their life.
Facts. 💯
Btw a single parent is a single parent home. If there aren’t two parents who are together (by definition married) in the same home together, the parent is a single parent. He sound like he don’t even do enough and blames her and called her a bad mother smfh 😮
This episode hit home. I'm glad he truly opened up. I wish my BD told me what he told you about signing up for motherhood. Thank you for posting this.
I agree 💯
They both are combative! I understand both sides tho! They both don’t like each other but they also support each other!
i'm glad she took this pookie off our hands
He hasn't answered any of her questions.
Right...he rambles and talks in circles....
He’s Money
Don’t think he’s overcame trauma if he doesn’t want to explain why he doesn’t date black women. But is bothered that other races he’s dated don’t understand what black men go through.
😂😂😂
lol he preys on women like Ellie
When nonblack women think they’re a prize because a black man doesn’t like his own women… This is the outcome. Why would you trust someone that doesn’t like himself? Why would you think highly of a man that degrades the very women that raised him??… insecurity brings these type of ppl together…. If you’re gonna date outside the race, date someone that actually loves their own ppl and has dated their own, but just happened to like others as well .
AMEN! This is always be the result of relationships with those types of men. 👏🏾 I’m glad she exposed his mentality. She was complicit in his self hate. 😌
Facts 👍👍
big facts
Yall have kids 80% out of wedlock. Why yall stay so salty at other races😂😂😂😂
Perfectly said
So she's covering the physical part of motherhood and the financial? She has no choice to act like a man. She is out Manning him. She is out working him.
Most women are delusional and Chad and Pookie pickers! What potential do you women speak of when choosing men? Why let men "hit raw" and run the risk of being a baby mama when they know what comes with that choice?
It’s funny how the men in comments above feel differently🤦🏾♀️
good she doesnt need a man then lol
That part playing all the roles
Shut up
They act like their son is a burden. Not nice😢
Is it a big surprise given both their personalities and the fact they had child with out getting married.
Most parents
She’s doing a lot by herself .. a child needs a village. She pays for the nanny, take care of her child and make the money. He need to step his fatherhood up. Period.
Children are burdens especially when you have to do mostly everything on your own. This is a truth people don't like to openly admit.
These 2 were never meant to raise a child together.
I can't believe these 2 got along enough to produce a baby 😢
Me either
Imagine if our parents had podcasts back in the day and we were able to see and hear our parents for who they really are.
I see both sides. She clearly has 90% of the responsibility. As men if we step up and show women, we are capable of taking on more of the responsibility it would crush their entire argument.
Just because biology dictates she has the child, that shouldn’t mean she should assume all the stress. Dude clearly has more than one child and can’t seem to balance the responsibility with one of his children mothers.
This is why women become bitter. She handles all of, if not most of the responsibility but he still is free to go off and create a whole other family. He said it himself for the little time he has his son he’s frustrated. Hell, imagine how women feel and they have the child most of the time.
With that said, she still has to let him be a man and not dictate times and if the child can go see his family. She seems hurt and has every right to be. She now has a child and emotional baggage with a man she will never be with.
You can’t tell him he needs to do more and not set what that expectation look like. She needs to have a conversation with him, they discuss what they feel is fair to sustain the lifestyle they both expect for their son. Once established, they come to an agreement financially of what that looks like monetarily and he should be held to that standard monthly.
This needs to happen before she even considers another relationship as it will remove unnecessary drama.
Nothing worse than a bitter angry, scorn baby mama. If she humbles herself, open her heart and remain optimistic to the possibility of love, she will eventually find the right man.
These two were made for each other
Elle contradicting herself ode she don’t want him to be a father fr. If bro can’t do things by her rules she gonna gatekeep the kid. Unruly🫠
She's a DAB
This Man Is 100 Percent Right!
My head hurt bad asf. I could never
He avoided the dating black women with the quickness. The talking in circles is insane.
We don’t want him anyway 🤣
Not only avoided it but the video cut right to the next convo..that was weird
@@touche5029wierd
@@Ashleyomega07Yes you do hence why he has 3 kids. This type of man is having the majority of the kids.
@@tedroscourt1205listening isn’t one of your strong points. Elle literally mentioned how EVERY ONE of his exes aren’t bw hence her question “why don’t you date bw?”. You tried it.