AK47 vs HK 416 vs HK G3
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2012
- The video is NOT intended to be a race between the rifles.
The main point of this video is to show that there is no big time difference in manipulation of three totally different weapon systems.
We try to show that it's not the rifle that is important but the SKILL of the operator.
We should all remember that weapons are tools and even the best, most expensive tools can be useless in untrained hands.
Train with your weapons, know them and be proficient with them - you can make every weapon an effective tool if you know how to use it properly!
Stay safe and remember - "slow is smooth, smooth is fast"
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Camera & Editing: Jan Kok
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AK: "I am the Battle Rifle!" Hk: "Nope i am the one!" HK G3: "Laughs in 7.62x51"
G3 is the best gun 👍 50+ years old and still awesome and extreme accurate
АК в 308 тоже есть.
I agree , the 7.62 NATO cartridge is a very effective stopper of man size prey. The 7.62X39 and the 5.56 NATO are good rounds but not as versatile as the old 30-06 short cartridge.
And dont forget about impact power and accurancy - G3 seems to be best
I thought AK is 7.62 as well?
No need to show transition on .308. Target is not getting back up.
what about more than one target
that's why you have more than one bullet
+Jacob McComas touche
What if you missed
You read my mind.
HK G3 was my weapon in the military service back in 1975 and i love it. Best weapon ever made!
As my camera guy tried to expain to you in a bit of a rude fashion, this video was never intended to be a comparison of the speed between different weapon systems.
The point of this video was to show, that it's not just the weapon system that is important but also the guy operating it.
As you can see in the video, i was almost as fast as the guy with an AR, regardless of the fact that i used a G3 and AK style rifles that are often regarded as slower.
I hope that makes some sense.
Polenar
True. Also. People forget that in actual combat....... spirit, mindset, and willpower are just as important. So be willing to die for what is important to you individually.
the dude on the AK is straight up boss
You mean Žiga?
Alberto Hinojosa shit sorry it's been a year since I saw your reply lol but yea if that's his name. I guess I need to subscribe to this account ive seen several badass videos
@@Creeker. lmao
@@Creeker. hahahha
Our AK
How come you didn't use the same guy for all rifles?
The video is NOT intended to be a race between the rifles.
The main point of this video is to show that there is no big time difference in manipulation of three totally different weapon systems.
We try to show that it's not the rifle that is important but the SKILL of the operator.
We should all remember that weapons are tools and even the best, most expensive tools can be useless in untrained hands.
Train with your weapons, know them and be proficient with them - you can make every weapon an effective tool if you know how to use it properly!
Stay safe and remember - "slow is smooth, smooth is fast
TheRebel MageHD well okay then the title should say it's a "race between the rifles".
AK47 vs HK 416 vs HK G3 doesn't really mention anything other than the rifles.
1:14 SICK reload animation bro!
Good one lmao
thanks!
i have used that technique a couple of times and it was actually a bit slower (for me) than the one i used in the video
i don't know why, maybe it's because of my improper technique
i didn't have a lot of training time with a G3 but i hope that will change - im planning to become more proficient with it and take it on the next 3-gun competition
we are also going to do a proper G3 manipulation video with all the different reload techniques
thanks for your comment and suggestions! :)
Could you make research on HK PSG1 is this a designated marksman, or battle rifle, or sniper rifle, because I have got a new terms of rifle categories i.e. precision rifle. Another version is HK MSG1 that is called as battle rifle..! What are the actual difference among them..?
The winner in the AK vs AR vs G3 challenge is... the guy who owns all three. >:P
I'm trying to get there. 2 guns down (an AR and AK) just need the G3 left
we are from Europe, from Slovenia and yes, we can be friends :D
have you watched it HD?
also the clips between the shooting are slowed down for effect
otherwise i don't see the problem...
“Remember, switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading”
"Balls out!"
thanks!
i know what you mean, when ak was designed there was no such thing as ergonomics :)
practice makes perfect - and try using polymer magazines, those are a bit slimmer
if you still can do it, than there are two options:
- you just reload like you would on a fast reload (without charging the slide) and then you just pick up the mag and throw it in the dump pouch
- you tape two mags together and do the drills and reloads accordingly :)
im using yugo magazines that have a larger feeding ramp and it stops the bolt in the rear position when the magazine is empty but when you remove the mag, bolt slides forward
please read the video description
I would pick the G3 any day.
not sure if I want to buy a G3 or R1A1/FN FAL, what is your opinion? *mine would be both, but I have to choose 1 for now*
+Alexander TheOriginalGreat ak74
G3 has the most punch/reach and accuracy. Even though its an old rifle...
it has other disadvantages.. its not very compact
but yeah, as an infanterist - id say its a keeper...
I shot with it when i did my time in the german navy
me FN Fal
Yeah, the G3 sure is something. It's and old rifle, heavy and have fairly small magazines - but they are accurate, reliable and very powerful. Actually, a variant of the H&K G3 is manufactured here in Sweden (modified for our climate) called Automatkarbin 4, AK4, which is the standard service weapon for the Swedish Home Guard.
потому что обозначение АК-47, более известный как АКМ
На видео югославского - M70 AB2
it depends
in this case transition was done when the rifle was empty so there is no need for safety but in a case where you would have a loaded rifle and you would like to transition to a pistol, then you MUST engage the safety
have you read the video description?
Agreed, this experiment has too many variables to decide which rifle is the best.
But this was never the goal. The goal was to see how fast we did our reloads.
It's all fun and games here at Polenar Tactical :)
G3 is a beast!
HA!
No the HK 416 is the best
it's a medium hight mount that i ordered from germany - it still allowes you to use the iron sights
The AK is initially faster because they are more familiar with it.
Martin Holde yes 😡
most of the H&K weapons are beautiful :D
yes, you are correct
this video is not a race between us but we tried to show that one weapon platform can be more ergonomic than the other but at the end it all depends on the SKILL of the operator
looks like good practice but above all good fun, like the H&K's is epic :-)
The g3 emergency reload is wrongly represented since he gives it a handicap on purpose by charging the handle before he puts a new one in. If you want to do it fast you sqitch magazine then charge it fast with ur palm then continue shooting.
you do realize that is the standard way to reload a G3, right?
mweagley96 It's not the most effective way. I don't have a lfot of time at the moment but in a cupple of weeks or so i'll send u a vid of what i mean
mweagley96 No, you rack it all the way back and let your hand slide off the charging handle, this way you are sure it will ram all the way home and you save time.
NorwegianAvenger Yes indeed, using the charging handle just one will eliminate one action. 3 things to do instead of 4
+mweagley96 That is not the standard way. You slap it from it's locked open position for it to close. It's designed for it. I used one for 12 months during my military service.
Yeah gathered that after watching some more, brilliant videos and great channel.
those are the standard UTH rail covers that came with the quad rail and those are made from hard rubber
i would love to go on the range with you you one day my friend keep up the good work pressytcn
Awesome video!
Thanks! :)
Thank you for your guys's time making the video.
This is the video that got me hooked to Polenar Tactical.
Yeah, those friends of mine were infantrymen from my old unit. I think that putting it in context, infantrymen fighting direct action is the most fitting role for tactical reloading skills. And in that regard, reloading at the speeds these guys are is not realistic. In a competition perhaps speeds like these are useful, but in a real-world application it's unrealistic.
what does this vid want to tell me?
Hi!
First i would like to say that most of the answers you got were from our camera guy Jan.
Secondly, we do not use automatic firearms because unfortunately those are forbidden by law here.
About the seriousnes - we have a relatively large audience so we try to make diverse videos so everyone would be happy. Besides the training and other serious videos we also film some funny and more relaxing type of stuff
I'll also expalin this video in the next reply.
Polenar
yes, it is :)
it's the M70 ab2 version with the underfolding stock
maybe you should have taken the hk 417, too keep the firepower even...
Was that the Serbian-made M70AB2?
да
Yes made by ZASTAVA arms
daaaaa :D
i totally agree with you, AR platform is much easier to handle
as we explained in the video description, it's not just about which weapon system is faster or better but it's the skill that matters
that kind of jams can be lethal in a high risk close quarters scenario
my friend has a well maintained AR that still jams ocasionally
U guys are awsome
Thanks! :)
The G3 is a Battler Rifle, The AK is a Assault Rifle
you dont say
(note: this is assuming that all of the weapons in the video are select-fire, but of course they likely aren't)
G3 - Battle Rifle; select fire, full power rifle cartridge
AK - Assault Rifle; select fire, intermediate cartridge
HK 416 - Assault Rifle; select fire, intermediate cartridge
The Ak47 is for 100m targets the G3a3 is for 1km +
The G3 is outdated is from cold War. Personally I think the best weapon is the HK416
Heck yes! :) Thanks for putting up this awesome video :)
yes, that is a Beretta 92 Stock - it's a sport model with enhanced trigger, brigadier slide, threaded barrel and barrel nut and it has a thumb safety similar to the 1911 models
its called weapons familiarity.. KNOW your platform or multiple platforms and the issue is moot....
This the comment everyone needs to read.
I own an AK-103, it's a modern AK-47 so I think it would be a better comparison to the HK416. I wanted to buy a HK416 but they're very expensive!
***** The 107 is a 5.45 not a 7.62. Are you talking about the Balanced Automatic Recoil System? I do not know how much of a benefit it would be for a 7.62, especially as I primarily fire on semi-automatic.
German engineering lol
@nikola poyukov The AK-103 assault rifle is a derivative of the AK-74M chambered for the 7.62×39mm M43 round
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-103
as we stated in the video description, this was not intended to be a race between different weapon systems
drop slide?
I just wanted to say hello from across the pond
Hello! :)
I am probably from old school. I leave army 10 years ago (12 years serve), but whats the new mode wave with after shooting looking around and behind shoulders? When I was in army there were rule - look where is your barrell pointing - because you need shoot when you see enemy. I understand military and civil tactic drills are differrent, but shooting range rules is same. If you turn around you lose 100% control of weapon. If I did something like these guys did, my squad leader beat me to the ground.
It's what they call "Target and Assessment" probably stemmed from 10 years of unconventional warfare in the Middle East; the goal is to shoot the target then asses your flanks like a crosswalk drill almost to ensure any remaining elements are neutralized around your teammates.
Yup. We refer to it as 'search and assess'.
Yea I also learned to not "check" by looking but to "check" by aiming. So by the time you spot a enemy and decide that's what you need to kill you won't have to bring your gun to them but instead it will already be pointing at them ready to go.
thanks!
we wanted to show that with good training you can do drills with an AK almost a s fast as with the AR
the point of the video is that it's not all about the weapon system but also about the guy using it :)
What I loved about this video is the crystal clear images and informative background. CONGRATULATIONS!. I hoped you make a new one with the bullpup-type rifle next.
Why isn't the G3 on the transitions part?
Because whatever gets hit by the G3 is not getting back up. ;D
@@Khabaal87 same goes for m70
@@vanja2565 You shouldn't compare 7,62x39mm with 7,62x51mm - completely different kinetic energy dude...
Or do you think a M3 75mm of the Sherman has the same capabillities like the 75mm gun of the Panther, just because of the same caliber?
@@Khabaal87 I know I'm not stupid I just wanted to say how strong 7.62 generally is...I'm not one of these cod kids
@@vanja2565 in practice the M70 is the more useful of the two systems, because 7,62x39mm is better suited for auto and burst fire, while the G3 is basically just effective in semi-auto
Вы хотя бы вместо АК-47 взяли бы АК-74М для сравнения с другими образцами стрелкового оружия.
АКМ(нихуя не АК-47) гораздо проще достать.
Таки АКМ корректнее сравнивать с G3 - разрабатывались и выпускались они примерно в одно время, и главное, их боеприпасы схожи. А вот НК 416 - оружие другого поколения, под малоимпульсный (5,56 мм) патрон. И сравнимо оно как раз с АК 74 - оружием под аналогичный советский боеприпас (5,45 мм).
Забодай Бодайла У g3 патрон намного мощнее. Раза в полтора точно.
you tup
Sven8807 это даже не АК это застава М70
if im not mistaken that rail is from Hera arms
that AK speed reload is so badass, good job guys. Dobra.
G3 may be the most technically inferior rifle here... It's nowhere as compact or reliable as the others but in the end the difference is barely noticable :)
I'd say the G3 is right up there with the AK as far as reliability and simplicity, but yeah, there's nothing small about them.
g3 is more reliable than the direct impingement ar
zim3900 and it also has brutal recoil :)
Polenar Tactical I wouldn't call it brutal, but definitely more than average.
Guess I'm just used to my Saiga-12.
I think the only real replacement for G3 is the Kel-Tec RFB
Позор! ;)
+Aleksey Yaremenko Базар! :)
+Aleksey Yaremenko Это внимание, означает.
Гай Фокс Увага, Ахтунг!
Aleksey Yaremenko Рozor! Рolicie varuje. Осторожно. Полиция предупреждает. Слово Невестка у чехов означает проститутка.
Полиция воруeт:) Позор:)))
thanks!
i use a Beretta 92 STOCK - it's a sport model with brigadier slide, barrel centering nut, sport trigger and a different safety
i can engage and dissengage the safety without decocking the hammer
Thanks man, much appreciated!
Currently we don't have any bullpups but we will try to get some for our future videos :)
AK ❤😍
The video would have been informative if one shooter did all three platforms. As an active 3 gun shooter I must say if you cannot run the AR platform faster than the AK platform you are doing something wrong. I'm currently still running the AK platform although I have an S&W M&P15 and I know the AK is slower when it comes to mag changes. Hence you have shooters at different skill levels running different platforms. too many variables to scientifically proof anything.
Hey Lin, fancy hearing from you :-) The Namibian Defence Force issued us with G3: what a piece of rubbish. The SADF R4 was a much nicer rifle, but it had much less tolerance so may jam easier than a G3 in sandy conditions.
Regards, Stefan
One shooter may not be as proficient with one firearm as they are with another though.
True but the same argument rings true for the platforms. Look at the video. The AK mag changes are running faster than the AR? That's shooter skill. Not platform superiority. Like I said too many variables to really be of value. Nice clip to watch, don't get me wrong, but not really informative as to which platform is better for each application.
Stefan Mahs, hello :) Yes, the G3's are nice. Fluted chambers and all but not built for Africa. If I had to take something locally in 7.62x51 it would have to be the FAL. Just based on budget. If money was no issue the FN SCAR would be my ultimate 308 rifle and that's saying a lot since I'm a huge HK fan boy. But the SCAR takes the HK417 in recoil reduction and running it fast. I mean I look at this from a competitive side of things. Not military applications.
Maybe reading the video description will clear up a couple of things
Thanks for the comment :)
i subscribed since your videos were interesting and featured unique guns most people dont know plus i loved the techniques you guys used
Great action, polenar tactical is awesome!
Greetings from Germany
0:27 Stephen King is that you?
ПОЗОР!!!
i think some Valmet rifles had the M-62S and the M-71S designations but when people talk about the M70 they are refearing to zastava arms M70 b1 or M70 ab2 - the Yugoslavian AK variants
b1 designation is for fixed stock and ab2 is for underfolder
sir, please read the video description, i think it answers you question
the g3 wins
***** nope.
Talking to yourself..... I know how it feels.
HAHAHAHA NOOB NEWBIE , BRO YOU GOT HIM, HE IS TALKING TO HIMSELF
AK-47 is WERY OOOOLD weapon))) for example you can use AK-74, Ak-100 or AK-105 ))))) muahahah))) you enjoy it)))
They call all AK-family rifles AK-47. Really in Russia AK-47 was just a prototype and what you call AK-47 is just an AK. This one is a serbian version of russian AKM. Also there're AK-74 and other versions as 100's models plus 12 and 9.
Just because it's old doesn't mean it isn't good. Although I'm pretty sure this was an AKM.
Ak 47 is old, but it's would always be popular I think
is very old and still on top
is a legendary weapon
i also have the FAL but unfortunately only one magazine so we didn't use it in this video :(
AK ist the best.
+Hallodri Styler *G3
+Hallodri Styler what a strange way to write g3
+Hallodri Styler somebody hasn't read the video description :D
+Snabel Ø go to school m8
+Green_Dragon13 fuck g3 sucky ass clumsy gun
Actually the AK-47 was a post WWII copy and improvement of the German STG-44 because without the Germans the Ruskies wouldn't have had the smarts to figure it out.
No, now STFU troll
No it's not. Learn more about AK history
Complete bullshit. The only thing the russians later copied was manufacturing it with stamped parts instead of milled parts to save time and costs. Other than that the Ak-47 is its own original design. The russians already played around with the idea of an assault rifle when they developed the Fedorov, years before the Stg-44. I'm from Germany btw... Get your shit together dude!
it definitely is!
i guess we will have to do a proper G3 shooting and reloading video soon :)
from the video description:
"As you can see in the video there is no big time difference in manipulation of this three weapon systems - one weapon platform can be more ergonomic than the other but at the end it all depends on the SKILL of the operator."
we wanted to show that with good training you can do drills with an AK almost a s fast as with the AR
the point of the video is that it's not all about the weapon system but also about the guy using it :)
Everything takes practice. no one is perfect! keep up the good videos!!
it's mostly personal preference but since i saw so much AR15's jamm and have problems i would rather choose a good AK over it
i also think that rifle selection can be very mission specific - G3 kicks like hell and is to heavy and to loong for CQB but it's ideal for long range engagements...
We are using a Canon 7D we borrow from a good friend. It has a Rode mic you can attach where the flash would usually go.
Yeah, the sound and the picture is really good. I do hope he buys a faster memory card in the future, though :P
-Jan
in the video we use the M70 AB2 - a Yugoslavian version of the AK47 underfolder
Please make a lot more videos! You guys are awesome!
Will do, thank you! :)
Loved seeing the Beretta come out to play at the end!
Very cool thanks for the info mate.
thanks!
i agree, we are all people
with some help from youtube comments we can also see and correct mistakes in our technique that would otherwise go unnoticed but i don't tolerate insulting posts from people that have probably never held a real firearm in their hands - unfortunately we get a lot of those
i didn't know that about the STG-44, i have never shot with one
thanks for the compliment! :)
I do have an AR15.
So, whithout the AR 15, and without the 223 Rem and the 7,62x39 (not allowed here) as caliber, which semi auto rifle would you recommend?
Thenks for the compliment! :)
this was filmed in Slovenia :)
Damn! That's some of the fastest reloading i've ever seen! Really cool.
Polenar Tactical, what is the piece of equipment is the man using the M70, that allows him to get a better cheek weld on the folding stock? Thank you, I greatly appreciate it.
why do u pull back the pistol and look around? can anyone explain plx, ty
you guys are simply amazing!
i don't understand
thanks for the compliment :)
you make excellent firearms and also good cars :)
i agree
each rifle has its own pros and cons
you just gave me an excellent idea for our future video!
Mossin Nagant vs Kar 98 :D
I've never given any thought to manipulating my HK91's mag changes like that...nor my crappy Ak build. Nice video!