YZ is not hated. I admit, he was too strong when he was still new back then. Those nerfs are justifiable. I think, the most hated hero by the developers are the ones that are not "marketable" because Moonton is Moonton anyway.
They gave him a buff because they feel bad removing the most important thing in his ultimate, the knock back, now it can only happen in the first hit, before, every hit gives a knock back
@@Kyugired correct, Moontoon did them dirty. Chou got nerfed too many times that i can't even count how many times he got changed. 😂 he is almost unkillable when YellyHaze is using him.
@@lilly2250 Beatrix is literally broken when using her shotgun with the combination of BoD + Malefic Roar in the early game. Not even an armored fighter dares to get close to me when I'm using her shotgun lmao
Yu Zhong’s current state is the perfect example of a _TRUE_ balanced Hero He’s neither too weak or too strong, there will either be a good yz player or a bad one. And so as long u know how to properly play him, he’ll definitely be scary to face against.
nope , he is in the b tier right now , u cn nerf his damage , that is fine , but that nerf on his ult cancelling the knockback made him mediocre at best and his passive dealy increased by 3 sec too just revert those changes , if he is too strong then nerf damage , cause his ult is just a worse sprint right now
@@delusionofillusion473 that’s not true. You use his ult to combo with his other skills and not as if it was a sprint. Not to mention when he comes out of dragon form he gains immunity frames.
@@Relaxish are u kidding me , just stop what ur doing and use his ultt as a sprint to the backline u will feed less then and play him first cause u clearly dont know that u cant cast skills in ult drag form and that immunity is a split sec , so basically his ult is a worse sprint as u cant cast skills , and take free damage and do almost no damage , no kknockback either , gosh u are annoying did someone have to eplain to u how to use the loo too??
Hello guys, I would like to see your opinion on some changes that should be made to Yu Shong. 1: when the passive marks erupt and the target dies, the passive is immediately cancelled, it is rare but it would be very good if the passive takes effect in these conditions, here is an example: if there is a target with 3 yu shong marks and we use skill 1 but the skill kills the target (clearly hitting it with the edge of the cloak) the passive does not take effect and the orbs of hp and cha essence are lost. 2: improve the speed with which the orbs of hp and sha essence reach yu shong, that they reach yu shong faster. 3: new effect: the passive takes effect in jungle mounts but only the damage and not the recovery of hp or sha essence. 4: new ulti effect: when you detransform from the dragon form and go into the dragonoid form, it pushes the enemies as it does in its dragon form, (if you didn't understand it's simple, when that mini-explosion appears, it pushes the enemies) that's all I hope to see your opinions :)
Tips for Yz user: Take 2nd skill first for sustainability. 3rd skill is your main escape skill, use wisely, prioritize the use ofyour ult for chasing dying enemies, zoning out area for your team, destroying enemies formation and lock on enemies core mage or mm.
@@bikbok8893 tbh, Blade Armor would never stand a chance (not unless if you're tanky or you're Belerick xD) if Beatrix equips Nibiru plus the emblem talent, Weakness Finder.
Once, I use Alpha jungle with festival of blood talent and my build is warrior boots, dominance ice, blade armor, antique cuirass, bloodlust axe, and oracle. Guess what, Beatrix use her broken shotgun and she just 4 shot me with that Wesker. *BALANCE* indeed!
He's the most perfect example of sustain fighter in my opinion, hard cc, decent heal and an ultimate that can be use to flank enemy heroes on the back lane or use it to escape when necessary If there's a buff that he needs then I think that he needs a better hp growth
I think they heavily nerfed the extra HP you get in YZ's dragonoid form and for me I'm fine with that, since that means that I can build a decent item regarding in increasing HP and defense
I think the problem with him is that during late game, the enemy marksman would just melt him like butter cuz of their attack speed/damage(since he shines the most on drawn out fights).
If they add another item that can increase healing, I think he'll march his way back to the meta. The problem is that his passive takes way too damn long to come to you. I'd rank him B+ in the current meta.
He's my secondary main and been playing him since his release. And i kinda agree with the nerfs he received cause his sustain and damage were too overpowered. The nerf that hit the hardest for me is the delayed heal from his passive, it was delayed by one second but that one second heal can make him sustain a lot. I hope they don't nerf him anymore
After all the nerfs they gave YZ, he's still pretty much strong in early to mid game and as a YZ user myself I'm glad that he's finally getting noticed and no players seems to be using him much often because of the nerfs but here's what I think: "If a hero has a lot of nerfs that means that he's not usable but you need to adjust your playstyle so you can still use him like a normal hero, it's not the hero that's the problem, it's the player"
Yu zhong is strong but I am having problems using his skills that have very long cooldowns, this makes it hard to CC enemies.Another thing is he doesnt have target locked skills.Could be better if we can use basic attack while 1st skill is activated. He is kinda squishy too especially when enemies are full of slowing skills
Maybe try using CD reduction try using Max CD reduction 40% that is what IM using then atleast 2 offensive item and the rest is def to last longer Add me if you like (102770042)
Not really lol. He's OP if you know how to use him properly. Man people just liking your comment blindly without knowing the hero well and tbh they just suck at using the hero that's why they agree. But to be fair that's my first impression on YZ when I first use him even tho I understood how his skills works but not knowing how to utilize his skills and use him effectively as a fighter in exp lane. Try to watch Qwean or DhatzTv YuZhong gameplays you'll learn properly how to use him as a sustain damage fighter and being tanky at the same time.
@@RyZeN707I think his decent his my main fighter and I always use him in rank every time the only thing that I hate is that his passive is so slow to heal me and has long cd in his second ang third skill
@@jhoembisan9792 yeah but I guess bringing his pre nerf passive will only make him broken again. That's why it's really important to build him semi tank always.
You dont spam his skills u combo them use your 1st skill then 3rd skill petrify yea that is it basically to win any fight/team fight/1vs1 if your dont have your petrify then just poke the enemies
@@Rise_0-0 big problem of yz it’s his so slow, meta hero can cast fast spells same as basic attack, a good bug on yz could be like terizla smoother action (skill cast, basic attack). Try to kill a ww or a granger
To be honest, i sometimes see a Yu Zhong User in Legend Rank only i haven't seen him in Epic or Mythic either but due to all of his Nerfs, i think that's perfect for him
Best way to buff/balance heros is that you allowed only a certain heros in tier list to be played in epic like if the match is B tier then you can only use B tier heros like yu zhong
@@ray.7447 i remember it, it before patch 1.5.08, like 2month yu zhong stay in ban list. I remember his passive only takes 1sec to get the heal (now 2sec), that makes he very aggresive in early and teamfight. After that patch, yuzhong is kinda balanced but Moonton think his infinite knocback during ult is kinda op, people can't escape yuzhong because of the knockback, so Moonton nerf him. Yuzhong is not popular now, i rarely saw yz player. Theres many yz better substitute in exp : - Dyrotth - Chou - Esmeralda - Ruby - Thamuz
Yu Zhong is still really good in early phase of the game. But once opponents have Dominance Ice, it's hard to effect the game using YZ. Whenever I went up against YZ, I always calculated his jump skill and petrify and just poke YZ around without getting hit. Yu Zhong is really easy to deal with these days. He is in average tier in the current META in my opinion.
He is meta in every tournament. Just not picked every game and can't be played as fearless as back then. But is used often in high level and pro games. So definitely A tier, even A+.
@@yarikyaryi Bro tournament is different coz they have communication..80 percent in mlbb are solo. By the time team fyt start lack of mobility, skill cd, skill 3 nerf make him weak.. As solo player m saying..
YZ when released was a like some sort of godly hero.... 1 V 5 was even possible in the late game if your team needs someone to block the enemies in their way while the mm and jungler are taking the lord..... But after that he got constant nerfs and never made it to the proper meta..... The last buff that he got was +20 base damage of skill 1.... His skill cooldowns got increased.... His range was shortened..... His movement speed reduced..... And more over the most important part, his regen was cut down..... Now a days he's just another damage absorbing tank for your sweet sweet Johny mage build and your real mage..... I really hate the fact that the developers cut down all his highlights for which yz was famous and scary..... Reducing his total hp was a good thing but reducing his hp along with his passive regen is too much Indiscrimination..... Now a days yz is really rare sight to be seen and most of them are not even skilled enough..... I feel really bad as I have been a yz main from the day he was first released..... I understand he was way too broken during that time and needed some nerfs but moonton nerfed him way too much.... As a solo ranker I feel sad sometimes that all I am doing is acting as another tank for all the squishies of my team....
ml is biased on their fave heroes, i mean look at their premium/event/special draw skins. theyve babied their heroes and they dont really care much about others. look how they nerf other heroes while their baby heroes are untouched/buffed/adjusted & never nerfed...
I build him with tank items only even though I'm using him at exp lane. My main target was their mm and/or mage. I atleast need to be accompanied by an assassin to finish the job.
In my opinion, I think, there are several problems with Yu Zhong right now! Sometimes Passive takes way too long to heal you, and it makes Spellvamp build less effective: Second is, Dragon Form needs higher Durrability; And Finally, his Passive's Damage is greatly rediced when enemy uses shield effects. This would be OK if shields were only from Aegis, but instead nearly every Meta and New heroes have shield effects on passives or skills, which makes it a lot more annoying for Yu Zhong to kill them!
They also nerfed the skill voices of the yz and his basic skin as well if u noticed they nerfed the skill voice of all skills including the knockback and his dragon form which is kinda sad...the present one is weird
Yu zhong is a great hero,and if you have item advantage in early you can dominate in mid until late game,but the bad thing about him is no matter how well you play you cant win easily in late without a good team/base pusher
Damn. I did not know that Yu Zhong was nerfed a lot of times. That might have been the reason why I can't feel his damage anymorr after trying to use him a few days ago. I never even changed my emblem for him.
Fighters (specially Yu Zhong's role) s my favorite hero role because both dealing and taking damage is my style specially if they have any skill/s to make themselves more sustainable.
they canceled it haha XDD, I think the reason was because riot would denounce it (I was watching some videos and certain "runes" were very similar to those of league of legendsd)
@@Rodia_1 Oh! Man. Only if this feature is supposed to be the revamp of emblem systerm's Tier 3 slot [which is 3 slots of all talent effects, and picking 3 of the same talent in this have stronger effect otherwise became weak sometimes if pick dirrerent talents with it (that's just my concept context)]
Everytime I becomes a dragon everyone just ran away. Makes sense because who wouldn't run away when you see a huge flying lizard charging right at you? Would be nice if his ult can atleast stun for 0.7 second if he hits someone instead of a knockback
He still pretty strong really strong but most players don't know how play. Him like lvl1 get his 2nd skill and use it on 3 minion then atk enemy hero for instantly his passive on
The developers can make him "balanced" by doing what they did to Paquito (Im not saying Paquito is balanced), basic attack no longer inflicts stacks but the stacks required to trigger the passive is lowered.
Thats must be the funniest joke ive ever heard, its like hearing some one say Beatrix is balanced, no Paquito can just build stacks from using his skills in the air, he litterarly punches air to get his stacks, build CDR and the "Nerf" they gave him turns into a buff.
I agree with you man.i think yz passive takes too long to take effect and his dragon can be suppressed which can be troublesome if i am facing the enemy turret
I think They Should Do This Skill 1,2 More damage + Bigger Hitbox skill 2 cc activation Duration Reduced Skill 3/ult-- When Casting CC immunity+Amount of stacks 2 instead of 1 Passive- Amount of stacks 6>>5
Yu zhong still needs optimization, he needs more HP or HP growth as he usually jumps into enemy backline thats risky, or they can optimise yu zhong's skill casting (sha animation, skill 1 speed, or skill 3 jump speed) that feel too slow. In addition, cooldown reduction buff is very good for him as he is skill-depended hero while his skills all too long in CD and has bad att speed stat
I want him to get a new skin, he still stays in META since his release date but only got 2 skins comparing to benedetta and paquito who got more skins while they were released months after him. Its unfair for yz users
@@KYSNYAN ask Moonton but for total nerf paquito has more than chou(but not hartih) plus paq is op in early game with his short cd, high dmg and spam able skills including the ult paquito's first skill also gives a lot a sheild and 2nd skill not only main dmg sorse plus mobility skill that can be use every 5 - 7 sec and his ult has the most annoying push plus slowed(knockup if red stack aka champ stands) Forgot to mention if paquito is the jungler he can abuse it more
@@thefreedom2687 yes, esme is also very hard for Yz to defeat because of her shield, but i only attack esme when she doesnt have her shield or already used it (mostly when there arent any minions), then I just pounce at her and purify. she mostly gets away but I just push
Offtopic. Have you guys noticed that only Lancelot has a dedicated running comic series unlike other heroes. No revamo hero or new hero got such big continuation. His comic is still running and it is now at 5-1 chapter. It proves that Moonton has a big role for him if MLBB lore gets animated.
@@kairollz1371 tbh, i found his comic look more appealing than his ingame look [seroius one, not the funny one]. Also his comic is being portrayed by a famous Bilibili team, forgot the name.
YZ is strong but, the current him falls quite a bit on late game. I think he needs more scaling on his hp and durability. Or they could also just decrease his CDs because some of it, especially his ult, is excruciatingly long.
@@belimvasim143 Yeah, he has the longest cc immunity in the game. The right buff for him should to decrease his cd or just buff his skill animation because without peritfy it's braindead easy to dodge his skills
Honeslty cd of his ult is perfect honeslty for me, cuz cd of ur perfi and cd of the ult is evenly match, but he do need dmg reduction durinf his dragonic form or some sort of durability buff for the late
@@gamalielbontilao3679in the late game, if you maxed the CD reduction (which is 40% at max) then his ultimate will be at 39 sec. So if his max time is 15 seconds, then 39-15 = 24 seconds. Just saying
I think YZ is slowly dying and Montoon is trying to rise his popularity with the 2-3 years old event. I think He does not deserve the last nerf on his ult.
tbh, depending on the situation. YZ will always win against no damage heroes but is also easily burst by lategame mm/ cc mage. his matchup always favors getting 5 stack. but must tread carefully on lategame heroes. hes like the better lapu/alpha i think...
Yu zhong is now balanced but compared to the other life steal based heroes he is pretty mid because his passive just isn’t fast enough but overall he is already pretty balanced
As someone who used to play yz a lot as my only fighter, even after this much nerfs he's still a good fighter and he can still be a beast in the late game
When in early game against enemy in lane, the more enemy hits with Yu Zhong's 2nd skill, the more passive stacks (Sha Residue) he marks to target/s with his next Basic ATK.
I use a build tank and a tank emblem at YZ because hes lifesteal is already pretty usefull at team fights because kt has pretty decent damage and it keeps you alive
He is the most beautiful hero moonton ever made due to the beautiful skill based passive thats just doesn't stack automatically. I got global with him and all i feel that he is badly nerfed at least he needs some sustain.
i think YZ is balanced just like Esmeralda. they're really good at doing damage and tanking, but they're no longer capable to destroy the game just by existing.
@@leonmystique9372 Anti heal and social distancing doesn't matter if she's gonna get 1000 shield every 3 seconds while also having 9000HP with her ultimate cooldown is as low as 10 seconds and deals 1000 damage in an instance and also a skill that speed her up with extremely short cooldown and 2nd skill that can slow you alot since all esmerelda use ice queen wand.
Esmeralda isnt balanced, she can be tankier than pure tank and deal decent damage. Her movement speed is a bit over and she can easily spam skills. She needs proper nerfs not like previous nerf moonton did
Great Yu Zhong match, Elgin! But I guess there's nothing else to point out except those Petrify misses. I still think Yu Zhong is an OP hero because whenever he's in a team fight, the chances of winning are high. He really can break enemies formation ten times better than Esme, Uranus, and Thamuz while providing all those CCs and sustain. Though he loses hard against Marksmen and CC if he's not careful and *calm in dire situations.* In conclusion, Yu Zhong is a balanced hero.
Balanced Heroes Fighter: Yu Zhong and Aldous Mage: Kagura and Zhask Tank: Tigreal and Lolita Support: Rafaela and Este For Assasins and Marksmen: That's Debatable
its useless if you dont pair it up with blood fest, why? the heal is so minimal (as a yz user) and most of the spellvamp you see its actually comes from the passive not the bloodlust itself i’ve completely abandon bloodlust since its not effective in many cases
Personally I think he's balanced. As shown in the video, even tho he was landing hits on multiple enemies and kept getting bunch of Regen from them, he still got melted from Hanabi, and there are some fighters that actually stay longer than in the teamfights and can even target the Hanabi. Definitely balanced hero.
Yu Zhong is a great fighter. But pls... Just... Pls... Is it too much to ask:- i) 5 seconds cooldown for 1st skill ii) 10 seconds cooldown for 2nd skill iii) 10 seconds cooldown for 3rd skill iv) 1 minute cooldown for his Ultimate skill?
Yu Zhong is overall a balanced hero, he was OP before but with the nerfs he is balanced. Just like Kagura it's not just a "hidden gem" but also a hero who is constantly in the meta and can be good in certain matchups. But the fact that there are other heroes who can cut his heal with very hard cc such as stuns from Eudora and Aurora, anti heal and Suppression from Franco and Kaja. The passive plus spell vamp for Bloodlust Axe has good amounts of heal, but receiving the additional heal from its passive is kinda slow compared to instant heal from Bloodlust in his build or even other sustain heroes that can heal faster such as Thamuz and maybe even Esmeralda.
Yu Zhong has been "balanced" for over 6+months he's one of the most honest characters int he game, and he really needs a team to back him up, becasue once anti heal is built he's a joke.
Yz right now is little bit on underpower side, the reason why its still at 50% wr, is because most of his user are really2 good at it.. new player would certainly not able to use him. My match using yu zhong is alternating between bronze n gold, rarely ever silver.. if i invest in wrong build strategies, he is gonna suck really hard. Cus he is particularly squishy in late game n low base damage.. I agree with most comment here, he need little bit buff on his hp scaling n base movement speed.
Day 6 of asking Elgin to try old meta strategies (such as 1-3-1 or funnel, diggie feed strat, OP hero pairings etc.) on a Rank game to see if they're still gonna be effective
Diggie strat is no more because the gold will be reduced as diggie die constantly. 1-3-1 is not that effective because jungle hero can't get exp nor gold from mid lane. Basically, old meta is now dead and that's the goal pf moonton's project next, its to change meta every now and then. New meta now will also be changed when they change some game mechanics again
There will never ever be another hero like the black dragon in Moba history edit - I mean the first release yu zhong.. its sad for those new players who never got to exprerience yu zhong in his prime
He needs a buff on the damge cuz all his damge is from the passive and S1 he really need team to star fight like half of the fighters don't needs team to strat a fight
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YZ is not hated. I admit, he was too strong when he was still new back then. Those nerfs are justifiable. I think, the most hated hero by the developers are the ones that are not "marketable" because Moonton is Moonton anyway.
@MeliodasZ wow another one of those gameplay advertisers
Yup, definitely. Vexana and Faramis back then were barely noticed by the devs.
They gave him a buff because they feel bad removing the most important thing in his ultimate, the knock back, now it can only happen in the first hit, before, every hit gives a knock back
Yeah!
Nope you're wrong
Love the way he create gameplay 🔥
Hi, you're my idol in using Paquito papa. You're the best
Papaquito u are a beast 👹
My idol
YZ is like that one GigaChad that never stops to dominate enemies despite all the nerfs
same goes for chou and kagura.
@@Kyugired correct, Moontoon did them dirty. Chou got nerfed too many times that i can't even count how many times he got changed. 😂 he is almost unkillable when YellyHaze is using him.
@@johncalingasan7759 lmao
then theres beatrix who's that but on steroids
@@lilly2250 Beatrix is literally broken when using her shotgun with the combination of BoD + Malefic Roar in the early game. Not even an armored fighter dares to get close to me when I'm using her shotgun lmao
Yu Zhong’s current state is the perfect example of a _TRUE_ balanced Hero
He’s neither too weak or too strong, there will either be a good yz player or a bad one. And so as long u know how to properly play him, he’ll definitely be scary to face against.
nope , he is in the b tier right now , u cn nerf his damage , that is fine , but that nerf on his ult cancelling the knockback made him mediocre at best and his passive dealy increased by 3 sec too just revert those changes , if he is too strong then nerf damage , cause his ult is just a worse sprint right now
@@delusionofillusion473 that’s not true. You use his ult to combo with his other skills and not as if it was a sprint. Not to mention when he comes out of dragon form he gains immunity frames.
@@Relaxish FR. These people dont even understand his skill mechanic
@@Relaxish are u kidding me , just stop what ur doing and use his ultt as a sprint to the backline u will feed less then and play him first cause u clearly dont know that u cant cast skills in ult drag form and that immunity is a split sec , so basically his ult is a worse sprint as u cant cast skills , and take free damage and do almost no damage , no kknockback either , gosh u are annoying did someone have to eplain to u how to use the loo too??
@@delusionofillusion473 if you don’t know how to time your skills correctly to get the most out of them just say that. Stick to your autopilot heroes.
WE YU ZHONG MAIN NEED A BUFF 😂
Assassin high and dry : we got you buddy
How far you've gone since this comment gg bro
Hello guys, I would like to see your opinion on some changes that should be made to Yu Shong.
1: when the passive marks erupt and the target dies, the passive is immediately cancelled, it is rare but it would be very good if the passive takes effect in these conditions, here is an example:
if there is a target with 3 yu shong marks and we use skill 1 but the skill kills the target (clearly hitting it with the edge of the cloak) the passive does not take effect and the orbs of hp and cha essence are lost.
2: improve the speed with which the orbs of hp and sha essence reach yu shong, that they reach yu shong faster.
3: new effect: the passive takes effect in jungle mounts but only the damage and not the recovery of hp or sha essence.
4: new ulti effect: when you detransform from the dragon form and go into the dragonoid form, it pushes the enemies as it does in its dragon form, (if you didn't understand it's simple, when that mini-explosion appears, it pushes the enemies)
that's all I hope to see your opinions :)
Black dragon is low.. Now his name is : Black worm 🤣😅
We want Prime Yu Zhong
Tips for Yz user: Take 2nd skill first for sustainability. 3rd skill is your main escape skill, use wisely, prioritize the use ofyour ult for chasing dying enemies, zoning out area for your team, destroying enemies formation and lock on enemies core mage or mm.
Then there's Beatrix, chilling in the corner with 3k+ damage in a single shot. Great Moonton!
This is exactly the reason why I buy Blade Armor whenever there's a Beatrix haha
3 shot tanks
2 shot fighters
1 shot mm 🗿
she can even 3 shot base with that shotgun, she needs a attack growth nerf
She can't crit but her damage is on par or maybe slightly higher than mm's who can crit. Nice balancing by Moonton. 👏
@@bikbok8893 tbh, Blade Armor would never stand a chance (not unless if you're tanky or you're Belerick xD) if Beatrix equips Nibiru plus the emblem talent, Weakness Finder.
Once, I use Alpha jungle with festival of blood talent and my build is warrior boots, dominance ice, blade armor, antique cuirass, bloodlust axe, and oracle. Guess what, Beatrix use her broken shotgun and she just 4 shot me with that Wesker. *BALANCE* indeed!
He's the most perfect example of sustain fighter in my opinion, hard cc, decent heal and an ultimate that can be use to flank enemy heroes on the back lane or use it to escape when necessary
If there's a buff that he needs then I think that he needs a better hp growth
I think they heavily nerfed the extra HP you get in YZ's dragonoid form and for me I'm fine with that, since that means that I can build a decent item regarding in increasing HP and defense
@@venomark7883 bro yu Zhong for high hp is a counter beuz Claude demon can melt him down unlike with less hp and more def it's pretty hard to kill yz
he needs more effectiveness in late game
The buffed thamuz and terizla are laughing with this statement.
His passive lifesteal needs to happen faster its too slow for late game.
I think the problem with him is that during late game, the enemy marksman would just melt him like butter cuz of their attack speed/damage(since he shines the most on drawn out fights).
If they add another item that can increase healing, I think he'll march his way back to the meta. The problem is that his passive takes way too damn long to come to you. I'd rank him B+ in the current meta.
his fast passive is why he was op
I didn't play yz when he was super op, but it's kind of frustrating to die because my heal didn't get to me in time lol
@@Gromper7878 u zhouldve been there bro. all his skill's cooldowns were so low omfg. he could use his 1st skill every 4 seconds
@@reincarnatedtobuildaharem he was just too op cuz of the heal and damn never died
He's my secondary main and been playing him since his release. And i kinda agree with the nerfs he received cause his sustain and damage were too overpowered. The nerf that hit the hardest for me is the delayed heal from his passive, it was delayed by one second but that one second heal can make him sustain a lot. I hope they don't nerf him anymore
he wasn't overpowered he was a broken hero almost unwinnable against him
@@JustaWonderer419 burst damage was his nemesis tho
Best buff probably would be that stack goes back faster to him
imo the best buff for him should just be faster animation. Without peritfy it's braindead easy to dodge his skills
bro that is literally what make him scary in the beginning lol
bruh thats the reason on why i always ban him lol
After all the nerfs they gave YZ, he's still pretty much strong in early to mid game and as a YZ user myself I'm glad that he's finally getting noticed and no players seems to be using him much often because of the nerfs but here's what I think:
"If a hero has a lot of nerfs that means that he's not usable but you need to adjust your playstyle so you can still use him like a normal hero, it's not the hero that's the problem, it's the player"
Right.
True
His late game is trash
@@Fugazidawg not unless u know how to use him yz is weak only against marksman that's why u need to combo them with perty and thrid skill
@@moode9941 👍🏿
Yu zhong is strong but I am having problems using his skills that have very long cooldowns, this makes it hard to CC enemies.Another thing is he doesnt have target locked skills.Could be better if we can use basic attack while 1st skill is activated. He is kinda squishy too especially when enemies are full of slowing skills
Maybe try using CD reduction try using Max CD reduction 40% that is what IM using then atleast 2 offensive item and the rest is def to last longer
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Not really lol. He's OP if you know how to use him properly. Man people just liking your comment blindly without knowing the hero well and tbh they just suck at using the hero that's why they agree. But to be fair that's my first impression on YZ when I first use him even tho I understood how his skills works but not knowing how to utilize his skills and use him effectively as a fighter in exp lane. Try to watch Qwean or DhatzTv YuZhong gameplays you'll learn properly how to use him as a sustain damage fighter and being tanky at the same time.
@@RyZeN707I think his decent his my main fighter and I always use him in rank every time the only thing that I hate is that his passive is so slow to heal me and has long cd in his second ang third skill
@@jhoembisan9792 yeah but I guess bringing his pre nerf passive will only make him broken again. That's why it's really important to build him semi tank always.
You dont spam his skills u combo them use your 1st skill then 3rd skill petrify yea that is it basically to win any fight/team fight/1vs1 if your dont have your petrify then just poke the enemies
The thing is that he's really strong but his counter heroes are way way too strong against him
@MeliodasZ brehh lemme support you RN
Isn't yz the best hero when it comes to sustainability? You can counter him with anti lifesteal items but yz still has scary sustainability
Like Who?
@@Rise_0-0 You can use Oracle to counter that
@@Rise_0-0 big problem of yz it’s his so slow, meta hero can cast fast spells same as basic attack, a good bug on yz could be like terizla smoother action (skill cast, basic attack). Try to kill a ww or a granger
To be honest, i sometimes see a Yu Zhong User in Legend Rank only i haven't seen him in Epic or Mythic either but due to all of his Nerfs, i think that's perfect for him
Best way to buff/balance heros is that you allowed only a certain heros in tier list to be played in epic like if the match is B tier then you can only use B tier heros like yu zhong
@Kosorou Gaming Archives dont tell them the secre🤫t,i dont want him to be banned every match
As a yu zhong user, This is really painful for us to feel, but we still have to find a way to bring him back to the original 😭😭😭
Remember when yz is always banned? Yeah me neither
@@ray.7447 i remember it, it before patch 1.5.08, like 2month yu zhong stay in ban list. I remember his passive only takes 1sec to get the heal (now 2sec), that makes he very aggresive in early and teamfight. After that patch, yuzhong is kinda balanced but Moonton think his infinite knocback during ult is kinda op, people can't escape yuzhong because of the knockback, so Moonton nerf him. Yuzhong is not popular now, i rarely saw yz player.
Theres many yz better substitute in exp :
- Dyrotth
- Chou
- Esmeralda
- Ruby
- Thamuz
And he goes to the ban section again, hell nah.
As yu zhong main, I don't mind having him a buff he's already balance
I think he needs his heal to be faster or stack up fast maybe he can be a beast in the game,i dont know
That's the original YZ in first released back when he wasn't nerf too much. Bringing that back will only make him broken again
@@RyZeN707 exactly, but i also agree with him, i think the perfect adjustment for him would be to bring back the fast heal, but reduce the amount
@@marvertjaysonneyra457 or maybe increase his defence in dragon form so that he is able to receive the heal
yz is kinda slow i think they need to speed him up a bit
He doesn't need to be a beast in the game to be good
Yu Zhong is still really good in early phase of the game. But once opponents have Dominance Ice, it's hard to effect the game using YZ. Whenever I went up against YZ, I always calculated his jump skill and petrify and just poke YZ around without getting hit. Yu Zhong is really easy to deal with these days. He is in average tier in the current META in my opinion.
He is meta in every tournament. Just not picked every game and can't be played as fearless as back then. But is used often in high level and pro games. So definitely A tier, even A+.
@@yarikyaryi Bro tournament is different coz they have communication..80 percent in mlbb are solo. By the time team fyt start lack of mobility, skill cd, skill 3 nerf make him weak.. As solo player m saying..
he's tier A hero in the sidelane used in almost every tournament because he can create chaos in teamfight with his ult
@@supreme3266 right. like, dont compare solo quee to professional play
@@supreme3266 i have tried play him once and hes kinda strong even he's nerfed or buffed, but *not* strong as he was before.
YZ when released was a like some sort of godly hero.... 1 V 5 was even possible in the late game if your team needs someone to block the enemies in their way while the mm and jungler are taking the lord..... But after that he got constant nerfs and never made it to the proper meta..... The last buff that he got was +20 base damage of skill 1.... His skill cooldowns got increased.... His range was shortened..... His movement speed reduced..... And more over the most important part, his regen was cut down..... Now a days he's just another damage absorbing tank for your sweet sweet Johny mage build and your real mage..... I really hate the fact that the developers cut down all his highlights for which yz was famous and scary..... Reducing his total hp was a good thing but reducing his hp along with his passive regen is too much Indiscrimination..... Now a days yz is really rare sight to be seen and most of them are not even skilled enough..... I feel really bad as I have been a yz main from the day he was first released..... I understand he was way too broken during that time and needed some nerfs but moonton nerfed him way too much.... As a solo ranker I feel sad sometimes that all I am doing is acting as another tank for all the squishies of my team....
ml is biased on their fave heroes, i mean look at their premium/event/special draw skins. theyve babied their heroes and they dont really care much about others. look how they nerf other heroes while their baby heroes are untouched/buffed/adjusted & never nerfed...
Ye thats why wanwan is shitty unfair now
@@DalFrostreamZ Fucking hypocrite. Yall are biased too don't you realize that💀
I build him with tank items only even though I'm using him at exp lane. My main target was their mm and/or mage. I atleast need to be accompanied by an assassin to finish the job.
if only they can return the old wings effect, i think yuzong will be meta again.
bcoz he is wings dependant
In my opinion, I think, there are several problems with Yu Zhong right now! Sometimes Passive takes way too long to heal you, and it makes Spellvamp build less effective: Second is, Dragon Form needs higher Durrability; And Finally, his Passive's Damage is greatly rediced when enemy uses shield effects. This would be OK if shields were only from Aegis, but instead nearly every Meta and New heroes have shield effects on passives or skills, which makes it a lot more annoying for Yu Zhong to kill them!
Actually he should have damage reduction when his essence starts to accumulate
I just want him to get buffed like increase he's spell vamp at late game and his durability
Yeah I agree because in late game I found a little difficulties when using yz
yes she need spell vamp
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@@Nath0203 ye I wish moonton can agree to me...
nope he needs the knockback back on his ult and faster passive cause that ult nerf finished him
Remember when the cadia of riverlands were too op like ling is Invincible when in wall
I really hate how they changed the sound effects on his battle skills. It doesn't have that satisfying sound of burst damage anymore.
vacuum noises🗿
They also nerfed the skill voices of the yz and his basic skin as well if u noticed they nerfed the skill voice of all skills including the knockback and his dragon form which is kinda sad...the present one is weird
some of them are good like the dragon roar on enhance second skill is way too satisfying
@@ghadydagher5920 i just want the skill sound of knock back of his 3rd skill back serious it was cool but now its zzz
Yu zhong is a great hero,and if you have item advantage in early you can dominate in mid until late game,but the bad thing about him is no matter how well you play you cant win easily in late without a good team/base pusher
Ay yo nobody talking bout that franco but man was sexier than balmond💀
yu zhong is so squishy tbh, but except if you master his passive
Damn. I did not know that Yu Zhong was nerfed a lot of times. That might have been the reason why I can't feel his damage anymorr after trying to use him a few days ago. I never even changed my emblem for him.
4:25 Lapu-lapu is also Yu Zhong's fellow hidden gem and balanced fighter.
Fighters (specially Yu Zhong's role) s my favorite hero role because both dealing and taking damage is my style specially if they have any skill/s to make themselves more sustainable.
One last thing to maximize Yu Zhong's full power as hidden gem is to build him with 40% CD reduction and semi-tank.
Your build ?
That should include dominanc ice or queen's wings
@@lightsisshangpliang152 queens wings suck ass don't build it ever
@@p2trappy990 true but it still somehow works if somebody builds bloodlust axe with it...
or full burst 😈
A buff like make his first skill benefit to 40>60% spell vamp
The upcoming new talent system will be an indirect buff for Yu Zhong (including all heroes too XD).
they canceled it haha XDD, I think the reason was because riot would denounce it (I was watching some videos and certain "runes" were very similar to those of league of legendsd)
@@Rodia_1 Oh! Man. Only if this feature is supposed to be the revamp of emblem systerm's Tier 3 slot [which is 3 slots of all talent effects, and picking 3 of the same talent in this have stronger effect otherwise became weak sometimes if pick dirrerent talents with it (that's just my concept context)]
4:53 Fire boi saves you! 🤣
Yes Yu zhong is pretty balanced now but sometimes it's really hard to 1v1 him if u didn't have any defense skills to overcome his passive
@MeliodasZ npc liked its own comment💀
Wait till his Urban Exorcist skin comes out lol
So we noticed he lacks a lot compared to fighters in the current meta so we are buffing his teamfight capabilities
-Moonton, probably
Remember when this Dragon Regen Passive don't have any delay? and moonton so panicked that they do a emergency patch for him hahaha
What doesn't kill me makes me even stronger
yu zhong dont need damage buff he just need his skill cooldown reduce
I remember when he was released. You can basically one vs 5 all game.
Everytime I becomes a dragon everyone just ran away. Makes sense because who wouldn't run away when you see a huge flying lizard charging right at you?
Would be nice if his ult can atleast stun for 0.7 second if he hits someone instead of a knockback
yeah his ult is visible for the enemy for the entire flight, thats why they r running
Arrive a bit late to the team fight, most of the time try to solo and gank from distance
He still pretty strong really strong but most players don't know how play. Him like lvl1 get his 2nd skill and use it on 3 minion then atk enemy hero for instantly his passive on
thats why he is a hidden gem, dont tell them about our secrets💀⚰️
The developers can make him "balanced" by doing what they did to Paquito (Im not saying Paquito is balanced), basic attack no longer inflicts stacks but the stacks required to trigger the passive is lowered.
I've to disagree on this this only work on paquito because of his low CD skills while most of Yu Zhong skill have high CD unless you go 40% CDR
Paquito is almost balanced? Paquito can literally one hit combo squishy heroes without the buff this season and then he got buffed
Thats must be the funniest joke ive ever heard, its like hearing some one say Beatrix is balanced, no Paquito can just build stacks from using his skills in the air, he litterarly punches air to get his stacks, build CDR and the "Nerf" they gave him turns into a buff.
I agree with you man.i think yz passive takes too long to take effect and his dragon can be suppressed which can be troublesome if i am facing the enemy turret
@@GigaChadicusMaximus the thing is, YZ has loooong cool downs, and unlike paq, he onlu gains passive by hitting an enemy hero
I think They Should Do This
Skill 1,2 More damage + Bigger Hitbox skill 2 cc activation Duration Reduced
Skill 3/ult-- When Casting CC immunity+Amount of stacks 2 instead of 1
Passive- Amount of stacks 6>>5
How to train your dragon...
Yu zhong still needs optimization, he needs more HP or HP growth as he usually jumps into enemy backline thats risky, or they can optimise yu zhong's skill casting (sha animation, skill 1 speed, or skill 3 jump speed) that feel too slow. In addition, cooldown reduction buff is very good for him as he is skill-depended hero while his skills all too long in CD and has bad att speed stat
I want him to get a new skin, he still stays in META since his release date but only got 2 skins comparing to benedetta and paquito who got more skins while they were released months after him. Its unfair for yz users
I still remember my old yz he was op back then i can even solo 1v4 while my team is dead i respect all old yz users like me💖
Fun fact: Harith is currently the most nerf hero next to paquito
Explain to me how is paquito nerfed more than chou.
As a Paquito User, i totally agree😔
Where do u seek those buffs and nerfs? On moonton site?
@@KYSNYAN ask Moonton but for total nerf paquito has more than chou(but not hartih) plus paq is op in early game with his short cd, high dmg and spam able skills including the ult paquito's first skill also gives a lot a sheild and 2nd skill not only main dmg sorse plus mobility skill that can be use every 5 - 7 sec and his ult has the most annoying push plus slowed(knockup if red stack aka champ stands)
Forgot to mention if paquito is the jungler he can abuse it more
As a yu zhong main, I always dominate exp lane except whenever im fighting dyrroth
What about vengeance Esme or purify Esme
Your early game will turn nightmare
@@thefreedom2687 yes, esme is also very hard for Yz to defeat because of her shield, but i only attack esme when she doesnt have her shield or already used it (mostly when there arent any minions), then I just pounce at her and purify. she mostly gets away but I just push
Offtopic. Have you guys noticed that only Lancelot has a dedicated running comic series unlike other heroes. No revamo hero or new hero got such big continuation. His comic is still running and it is now at 5-1 chapter. It proves that Moonton has a big role for him if MLBB lore gets animated.
Just biased for his looks i think
@@kairollz1371 tbh, i found his comic look more appealing than his ingame look [seroius one, not the funny one]. Also his comic is being portrayed by a famous Bilibili team, forgot the name.
hey you're the guy who wanted lance to be buffed even more. hello
@@gus74v07 has that anything to do with that. Even if I want to, that is upto moonton. I am not any official.
@MeliodasZ so?
I'm a tank/fighter main, and I never mastered this mdfkr.
YZ is strong but, the current him falls quite a bit on late game. I think he needs more scaling on his hp and durability. Or they could also just decrease his CDs because some of it, especially his ult, is excruciatingly long.
Tbh I agree that his ULT'S CD is long bt you also have to count the time you spend as Dragon and beast which is like 10-15 seconds
@@belimvasim143 Yeah, he has the longest cc immunity in the game. The right buff for him should to decrease his cd or just buff his skill animation because without peritfy it's braindead easy to dodge his skills
@@belimvasim143 But 10-15 for a whopping 85cd? man it's just so painful.
Honeslty cd of his ult is perfect honeslty for me, cuz cd of ur perfi and cd of the ult is evenly match, but he do need dmg reduction durinf his dragonic form or some sort of durability buff for the late
@@gamalielbontilao3679in the late game, if you maxed the CD reduction (which is 40% at max) then his ultimate will be at 39 sec. So if his max time is 15 seconds, then 39-15 = 24 seconds. Just saying
I think YZ is slowly dying and Montoon is trying to rise his popularity with the 2-3 years old event. I think He does not deserve the last nerf on his ult.
tbh, depending on the situation. YZ will always win against no damage heroes but is also easily burst by lategame mm/ cc mage. his matchup always favors getting 5 stack. but must tread carefully on lategame heroes. hes like the better lapu/alpha i think...
this tbh
The delay on his passive heal sucks
Yu zhong is now balanced but compared to the other life steal based heroes he is pretty mid because his passive just isn’t fast enough but overall he is already pretty balanced
As someone who used to play yz a lot as my only fighter, even after this much nerfs he's still a good fighter and he can still be a beast in the late game
When in early game against enemy in lane, the more enemy hits with Yu Zhong's 2nd skill, the more passive stacks (Sha Residue) he marks to target/s with his next Basic ATK.
Yeah i usually use it on minions then basic attack the hero for an easy 3stacks
@@Goodguyric that’s actually 4 stacks but whatever
@@Relaxish 3
@@sutanranggaaditya719 the skill will give stacks equal to the amount of units hit +1. But like I said whatever
I use a build tank and a tank emblem at YZ because hes lifesteal is already pretty usefull at team fights because kt has pretty decent damage and it keeps you alive
He is the most beautiful hero moonton ever made due to the beautiful skill based passive thats just doesn't stack automatically. I got global with him and all i feel that he is badly nerfed at least he needs some sustain.
Darius be like
Im a yu zhong main and i still follow my own spellvamp cd reduc build to keep my sustain even if im squishy and rn yu zhong needs a buff just a little
Yz is deadly in teamfights especially when with Oracle bloodlust and wat axe
Everyone talking about Yu Zhong but did you notice godly franco? 😂
i think YZ is balanced just like Esmeralda. they're really good at doing damage and tanking, but they're no longer capable to destroy the game just by existing.
They are both weak to marksman
@@kingraplhmativo5178 No, especially esmeralda. Her shield and damage is disgusting in tank build. Even 3vs1 an Esmeralda is hard.
@@fmentertainment928 *cough cough*
Anti-Heal and Social Distancing
*cough* *cough*
@@leonmystique9372 Anti heal and social distancing doesn't matter if she's gonna get 1000 shield every 3 seconds while also having 9000HP with her ultimate cooldown is as low as 10 seconds and deals 1000 damage in an instance and also a skill that speed her up with extremely short cooldown and 2nd skill that can slow you alot since all esmerelda use ice queen wand.
Esmeralda isnt balanced, she can be tankier than pure tank and deal decent damage. Her movement speed is a bit over and she can easily spam skills. She needs proper nerfs not like previous nerf moonton did
I know we all gave valir the bruh look after tig wasted a flicker to push Elgin under tower just so valir can push him back to safety lol
4:52
Great Yu Zhong match, Elgin! But I guess there's nothing else to point out except those Petrify misses. I still think Yu Zhong is an OP hero because whenever he's in a team fight, the chances of winning are high. He really can break enemies formation ten times better than Esme, Uranus, and Thamuz while providing all those CCs and sustain. Though he loses hard against Marksmen and CC if he's not careful and *calm in dire situations.* In conclusion, Yu Zhong is a balanced hero.
Balanced Heroes
Fighter: Yu Zhong and Aldous
Mage: Kagura and Zhask
Tank: Tigreal and Lolita
Support: Rafaela and Este
For Assasins and Marksmen: That's Debatable
Is Bruno balanced? I think he's better than hanabi Layla lesley but worse than wanwan moskov Clint etc.
He's gonna get a buff for his upcoming skin. Classic moneyton
Why did people stopped using bloodlust on Yz it comprises his sustain so much???
its useless if you dont pair it up with blood fest, why? the heal is so minimal (as a yz user)
and most of the spellvamp you see its actually comes from the passive not the bloodlust itself
i’ve completely abandon bloodlust since its not effective in many cases
Personally I think he's balanced. As shown in the video, even tho he was landing hits on multiple enemies and kept getting bunch of Regen from them, he still got melted from Hanabi, and there are some fighters that actually stay longer than in the teamfights and can even target the Hanabi. Definitely balanced hero.
i used to suck with yz and really didnt like his kits but after dhatz and learning combos i got really good and now im top 1 yz local
Dhatz YZ is god mode 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Give him some movement speed...he walks like a model
Yu Zhong is a great fighter. But pls... Just... Pls... Is it too much to ask:-
i) 5 seconds cooldown for 1st skill
ii) 10 seconds cooldown for 2nd skill
iii) 10 seconds cooldown for 3rd skill
iv) 1 minute cooldown for his Ultimate skill?
Yu Zhong is actually very scary, giving him more buffs/nerfs will ruin him (his ult cd is a bit too much tho)
When im in full build the ult cooldown is literally 16 seconds
Gaming rule 101:In a multiplayer strategy stat base game.....you either tank.....or deal.....
Yu zhong:Why not both?
Elgin: When he is picked, its either a good one or a bad one
Me being the bad one
use petrify, game changer
I think the only problem to Yu zhong is he is so squishy when you did not build so much defense item
If they nerf yz my main will destroy plss moonton dont nerf plss
Yz is balance is great for roaming around,sustain
Pray that moonton doesn't nerf my boi or else I'm gonna have to find another hero like him lmao
Btw little tip
Aiming his 3rd skill (jump) in a careful way at a terrain can make his jump longer
I miss the Yu Zhong that was first released, OP af 🥺
same
also bene
Like you can jump into the war and wipe all enemies with your no delay regen health passive 💀
From that popularity chart, i noticed that Valentina's in the mid-popularity rank rn, i wonder what happened to her
If you take a look at the most banned chart you can see her banned alot of time so not alot of players can play her cause shes banned all the time
@@mfunwas2750 O, i missed that part lol
I think he's great the way he is
All he needs in the current meta is to bring back his original passive return which helps him recover his Hp really fast
I can't really say I hate him, since he's my main :'-), but i definitely get mad when I go against one
Yu Zhong need to have One piece collab Skin.
Yu Zhong as Kaido sound Awesome.
First skill is Ryaimei Hakki.
And Hybrid Form after Ulti.
Yu Zhong is overall a balanced hero, he was OP before but with the nerfs he is balanced. Just like Kagura it's not just a "hidden gem" but also a hero who is constantly in the meta and can be good in certain matchups. But the fact that there are other heroes who can cut his heal with very hard cc such as stuns from Eudora and Aurora, anti heal and Suppression from Franco and Kaja. The passive plus spell vamp for Bloodlust Axe has good amounts of heal, but receiving the additional heal from its passive is kinda slow compared to instant heal from Bloodlust in his build or even other sustain heroes that can heal faster such as Thamuz and maybe even Esmeralda.
Me : How to counter yz?
My friend : use ruby.
Yu Zhong has been "balanced" for over 6+months he's one of the most honest characters int he game, and he really needs a team to back him up, becasue once anti heal is built he's a joke.
I feel that for yz the ult needs some sort of damage reduction while he is in the air in dragon form otherwise mms kill u too fast
Yz right now is little bit on underpower side, the reason why its still at 50% wr, is because most of his user are really2 good at it.. new player would certainly not able to use him.
My match using yu zhong is alternating between bronze n gold, rarely ever silver.. if i invest in wrong build strategies, he is gonna suck really hard. Cus he is particularly squishy in late game n low base damage..
I agree with most comment here, he need little bit buff on his hp scaling n base movement speed.
Day 6 of asking Elgin to try old meta strategies (such as 1-3-1 or funnel, diggie feed strat, OP hero pairings etc.) on a Rank game to see if they're still gonna be effective
Diggie strat is no more because the gold will be reduced as diggie die constantly. 1-3-1 is not that effective because jungle hero can't get exp nor gold from mid lane. Basically, old meta is now dead and that's the goal pf moonton's project next, its to change meta every now and then. New meta now will also be changed when they change some game mechanics again
He is like Dyrroth. Fun to play but horrendous to go against.
There will never ever be another hero like the black dragon in Moba history
edit - I mean the first release yu zhong.. its sad for those new players who never got to exprerience yu zhong in his prime
He needs a buff on the damge cuz all his damge is from the passive and S1 he really need team to star fight like half of the fighters don't needs team to strat a fight
I want yz to be buffed again in the next season
I miss his old sound effect. The new one sounds like a vacuum cleaner
💀💀💀
I think a little shield and movement speed or a second bar of hp for the moment of the dragon form lasts 🔥
Sometimes it's so hard to catch those sprint user backline