After using his ult (3 slash) you will not have any mobility to disengage in combat making him a free target. It would be nice if he can forcefully return to his normal mode to use his dash skill
@@masihimhaf His speed is not good too, in his ult. His stunning skill is also slow, he will still be an easy target for the opponents before using stun+flicker. His defence now is not great too against good enemy composition. He can do good in a match, but weaker then many other characters.
@Muhammad Hanzo but sadly no reduced dmg. He is forced to sustain dmg and only successful if enemy are around a line. If Lapu’s base defence was slightly higher, he was in meta now. If his dmg was slightly higher, he was in meta too. He’s no far from meta because spell vamp for him is good, but better with higher dmg or very well if he had more sustain on himself.
@@gamescgg6864 his old ult had damage reduction on the spot and gave him a mobility skill which made him more sustainable on his own and especially in team fights when trying to chase or escape
I've been using him as a main since last month. Lapu Lapu just needs 2 adjustments, 1) passive just takes too long but has little buff. 2) 3rd skill's 3rd burst animation takes forever to hit
I liked the old Lapu more, he said " the enemies are many and i am alone, but one slap and kill them all". And he made for destroying teamfights with insane dmg and a dash in his ultimate form. I got a savage with the old Lapu and i only had 10 games with him. If he caught you with his ult you were dead, not to mention his old petrify and flicker combos.
Yup.. I use the passive shield Aegis shield Passive shield again then rosegold shield. And then passive shield again😂 I chain those 3 shileds, it made him unli shield😂
@@moai6225 Argus can't. Plus almost every skills if Lapu Lapu are AoE hence he can stack up his passive pretty much faster than Guine or Argus when there's more enemy units around him
@@averageguy6167 “MORE ENEMIES” is the keyword here, his survivability decreases if there is only one, and thats bad if its someone like zilong , thamuz etc.
@@Sp3nz. Lapu Lapu is made for team similar to Terizla, can't you see all his skills are AoE??? And why would anyone want to convert a team based hero into a 1 vs 1 hero like Thamuz or Aldog. (But Thamuz is also good in team fight)
He's an early game hero so falling on late game is quite understandable, and the reason they gave him shield instead of heal is due to his AoE and Spellvamp that allows him get full hp just from a single wave.. Overall, its quite decent. Tho I agree there should be changes made about his passive and lategame damage because unlike other fighter, lapu lapu's damage is falling way too hard. It would also be convenient if they gave him a bit of durability when he's using his 2nd ult, so that he can tank for the team when the tank are just nuts..
Well i like the old one more. Because even in late game he can still be a threat. The old lapu lapu raw burst damage is far more efficient than his revamp. What i like about his revamp is he became very tanky, that I even build him pure tank after I built Blood lust axe.
i think by giving his first skill in base form 2 versions where if they're melee range it has increased damage and has faster cast time and maybe a bit of spellvamp for his first skill like hayabusa would be great for him in the early game against sustain matchups
@@mochi-kun856 then he needs another revamp his passive especially like bro his passive is mad useless it is very situational if youre losing then the passive is useless if youre winning you better end it fast cause its unusable in late game. Which is a shame since minsi tank is very fun and good but downpressed by his useless passive😢
His previous skills where the most balanced because his 1st could damage in a straight line with no gap, his 2nd is a dash much longer and has speed up buff, his ult has much longer ranged stun and his 2nd phase ult are effective of bringing damage. The Heavy sword state 1st is a ranged skill that deals big damage and slowdown, the 2nd was a short dash but deals more damage than the normal one and his heavy state ult is a burst where he swings his heavy sword that deals large amount of damage around him. His passive was even more simpler to fill because it just needs five bars to activate just like pacquito and aurora by using his skills against heroes and creeps. Now the current lapu-lapu might be more agile than the previous one but his 1st has a gap, his 2nd is shorter and ult is a bootleg version of freya's 1st. His 2nd phase 1st and 2nd skills are a much weaker version of his previous ultimates and the ult deals much bigger damage but needs to swing 3 times where heroes could easily avoid while the previous ultimate just needed to swing once reaps a lot of health. His passive was a gigantic nerf that moonton thought they could fool me that its a buff. The passive no longer fills like the previous version and it fills very slow that they added an asspull feature to his ult where it'll fill half of the bar so he could use the passive where the previous just needed to do the principle. And one of my biggest gripes as an ex-lapu-lapu user is how they changed his awesome buff design into skinny looking faggot, his sword design is mediocre unlike the previous one that looks like it was molded in a stone and he just took it it really looks awesome and the most embarrassing part his voice lines are cringe and that they hired a mediocre filipino voice actor to just get more filipino players but in reality they don't need to.
I really want Moonton to change his passive damige into true damage because most of the time I play him is I always build 2-3 attack builds and the rest are defense and he's kinda lacking of damage, yes.
I am using Lapu Lapu as my main hero, have over 3 k matches with him. -First of all, I did notice couple of rookie errors when Elgin played him 😛 -Second, for me, the old Lapu Lapu was undeniably perfect there is no need for revamp but ok, it is what it is. - His passive is fair to say useless, at least they could give him critical damage when he charges with full pasive if not anything else, so, critical damage or bigger shield or nothing else but faster way to build his passive. - And as my last opinion about this video, that very first animation when Lapu is jumping in Ult form and smashes ground, that animation is waaaay too long, and if you add time that is needed to activate ult (3 smashes) it takes forever especially that last hit, while he is in that form easy target if he jumps in team fight because he cant activate passive while his loooong timing animations end, not to mention that he can't escape once he throws himself in the fire of battle. This is my opinion from over 3 k matches with my lovely Lapu Lapu, and I hate, just hate to see him suffers from that nerfs on his back, not to mention that moontoon forgot about some new skins for Lapu, it is such a shame god damnit
Like him just like many other forgotten fighters. They’re all either have weak dmg or week sustainability. But honestly, compared him to all the other forgotten fighters, he definitely has a kit much better than them to be balanced in this meta like ruby, martis or yu zhong. The only problem is that he doesn’t have a disengage skill other than his normal form 2nd skill, which would mean he’d be dead by the time his BIG sword form’s over. Maybe i’d suggest bringing his OLD 2nd skill back where it swings AND dashes, the only addition, being if it hits multiple enemies gives him the stacked dmg reduction. So like what elgin said, he definitely needs some nerfs reverted or few buffs if moonton wants lapu2 to shine again like what they suddenly did to terizla (then completely nerfs him xd)
Elgin also pointed out that his first skill needs to be flexible when it comes to targeting, which I fully agree on. He's kit isn't bad, it's just moonton neglecting him.
@@JustPhoenix. yeah, the skill being only a poking skill makes it harder to use when he’s fighting up close, so I definitely agree that they should just adjust that so he isn’t always ult reliant
I agree with you Elgin. As a Lapu-Lapu main for 2-3 years I really notice that he is good in early to mid game but it cannot carry the team because his damage in the late game seems weak. That's why now I only use him rarely. But his sustainability is in the top tier.💪
i really like that ML heros are just "i will slay the demons!" or just "i will destroy the light" While a guy called Lapu-Lapu pass the vibe "I preffer bleed till death in the battlefield then see my people suffer" 🗿🗿
As a Lapu-lapu main i do agree his early game damage high. The only improvement i can think of is sustaining long fights and mobility on his ultimate form. Most of the meta fighters have sustain to last long battles while lapu-lapu will gonna run out of his skills and ultimate when it comes to long fight, i think they should add some little bit of mobility on his ultimate 2nd skill + plus decrease cooldown and long lasting ultimate that can last long against sustain and tanky enemies. the reason why i want him to last long fight was because he is kind of squishy without his ultimate because of defense buff. Without his ultimate, his damage will gonna fall off real hard and his tankiness is also gone.
I think my future prediction below about Lapu-lapu's buffed passive will make his enhanced basic ATK more spammable: (1) Energy gain 10 energy per hit (half from non-hero unit/s) will change to 4 energy per second (taking/dealing hits from/to each unit also gain the same amount); (2) Requirement/s: 100 energy change to 50/100 energy (if any); (3) Revamped effect: 250(+65*Hero Lv) Shield change to restores 5/10% Max HP(scale with used energy); (4) Physical DMG dealt: 150% Physical ATK change to 126(1*Hero Lv)(110% Extra Physical ATK)~152(2*Hero Lv)(120% Extra Physical ATK (scaled with used energy); And (5) New effect: Enhanced Basic ATK also deals damage to enemies behind the target.
I actually see no reason for him to be forgotten tbh But if they were to buff him then add more movement speed and defense stats to his ult and I think he should be good. Also he needs to last longer in ult form cause 10 secs feels too short. I mean sometimes I wonder what's the use of building war axe on him
I've been playing Lapu since 2018 even before his revamp. I'd say his old version was better. This version of Lapu has no mobility in his ult which gives him the most damage. Charging in with his ult makes you choose from his 3 skills which is just, damage, stun, or damage reduction. He has no mobility in the stance which leaves him reliant on his spellvamp and then hoping to get away if he already used all his three skills while there are other enemies chasing. In this meta, his damage is not enough to sustain himself and really needs mobility back in his ult. I'd have more to say but obviously I just preferably want his old version back lol
Yeah me too I miss the old one. The old skillset of lapu lapu is very effective in ambush the only thing that is pulling it down in the META before is the difficulty of his passive to stacks.
Lapu was really good when he was revamped but the rise of newly released op heroes like Paquito, julian, Yin, revamped thamuz, revamped leomord pushed lapu into forgotten section.
Using Lapu-Lapu is like weilding a blunt knife, so you feel like it's harder to cut things. I've been checking him out recently and I feel the developers should work on his passive while on ult mode. Like faster rage regen during his ult, so he can make the most out of his passive skill.
@@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger Yeah but its still a Great Sword in Heavy Sword State. I like the old lapu more since you can kill squishy hero almost instantly. The only problem for him before his revamp is his passive stack gain and his Ultimates CD, but when you have already built max CD Items, you can cast his enhanced 3rd Skill TWICE!!!
Agree.. I miss my main who carried me to mythic really easy. After the revamp, i don't use him anymore, too squishy, useless stacking, low damage, low spell vamp.
@@tanhouzer Same Lapu Lapu was so fun to use moonton ruined it for us we didn't ask for the revamp. We asked for bug fixes and cheats they didn't listen to it. They revamped all of those heroes that i really loved playing seriously this sucks.
I think mlbb should add a stun when lapu-lapu uses his ult because its pretty easy to escaep when you have an enemy that has a dash skill and his enchanted first skill should be faster to hit so you cant eascape :)
6:45 That would be quite problematic in the current meta, as it's currently defined by defense-ignoring damage. Much worse when this defense-ignoring damage is HP defined. **AHEM Karina Karrie Thamuz and the entire Malefic-DHS squad** Adding more true damage heroes would be a dirty move by Moonton... I'd hope not.
The nerf I really feel is his 2nd skill in ult form they reduce the dmg reduction per hero hit. I agree on faster of refill of his passive and a small dmg buff.
I think we can all agree that beatrix desperately deserves a buff. Her 4 guns and mobility are not enough when compared to other marksmen. Moonton should give her 7 guns instead imo edit : this is satire, I am not being serious. Please stop threatening me lol
What are you talking about, you think a hero that deals 2k damage per hit need to have mobility like benedetta? Also this video is about Lapu-Lapu, not Beatrix
maybe can add extra mv speed when use ulti second skill base on enemy hit, as second skil get dmg reduction base on enemy hit, so with extra move speed, should be nice
@@Charl1e_Sanchez yeah I know, he swings three times and you can control the joystick every swing, I was just suggesting maybe make its function like Grangers Ult where you can aim the three where you want them to swing
I can adjust here a bit: in lapu's enhanced skill, the 3rd skill rather giving it mobility , It should be given user controlled( like the 2nd skill of terizla). I think this would be better
i think lapu is good the fighters that need a upgrade is 1:alucard sure the damage is good but i feel like he should have higher lifesteal 2:argus maybe just return the 1sec stun then he will be ok again 3.4:minsi and martis
Yes I use a lot on Lapu-Lapu and what I want his skills is great sword fighting styled that does the first skill three damage activate skill second a dash damage third it change different skills one it shoots big massive blade second crowd control that pulls enemies towards you last one would be deadly slam that does crowd control too and his passive is breaking armor that makes everyone else too weak to trying to reduce his physical
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i remember when i first started playing ml and he quickly became my main because he was so annoying for heroes with low mobility (this was a really long time ago). now most heroes have some type of dash skill so it’s easy to escape his ult. miss old lapu and old ml
Passive: when the bar is full and attack a hero or non hero target lapu lapu he gain 10% of his max hp if lapu lapu is full hp he gain 5% shield Inhans first skill: 4% faster casting and when attack a hero or non hero target with you:re basic attack after you cast the 1st skill you deal true dmg of his max dmg Inhans ult: 5% faster casting of the skill
I think if they would add true damage to lapu lapu is not a bad idea like the enhanced justice blades will deal true damage to enemies but based on their total lost hp or the final blow on lapu lapu's 3rd ultimate(while on heavy sword mode) would be a great adjustment for his damage can still follow up on enemies on late game♥️⚔️
These are my suggestions Passive:every time his enhanced basic attack hits a creep or hero all of his skill CD get reduced 20% Skill 1:it should be flexible and give more spell vamp Enhanced skill 1:it should deal true damage and can be used to escape Skill 2:it should stun enemy heroes or creeps it hits Enhanced skill 2:much more wider range and should give a dash if successfully hits a enemy hero Skill 3: Transformation should give plus 35% shield and give lapu lapu a boost of attack speed Enhanced skill 3:It now can be cancelled when using if you kill a enemy hero one additional swirl will be added
One of his ultimate's saving grace was the passive effect of his enhanced 2nd skill, which is damage reduction. I think in his enhanced state they should also add some movement speed and attack damage as buff to make him stronger in ultimate form at least. He was revamped but easily forgotten because of his consecutive nerfs, and that makes his revamped skills useless
His old ult immediately gave him damage reduction on the spot which gave him engaging so much easier..All they really had to do was give him better damage in his old version to compete in today's meta...
I want to clear out something on 3:00 I'm an Argus user and I can tell you the part "receiving" damage doesn't really works His passive only replenish when attacking or just idling. Sometimes I think this is a bug since it's been a long time that they didn't fix this yet, it's still on his passive description
i think all it is is that he needs more overall damage and also he needs an option to revert to normal normal state for skill 2, and maybe reduce amount of hits needed for passive
Lapu-Lapu is one of the Hero who have longer Animation or delayed skill before it Hit but once it Hit its more rewarding. I guess i could agree to the enhance 2nd skill to have a small dash just like his old skill. Or making his Attack Animation faster. I think he's more on teamfight oriented so giving him a substantial damage or sustain would be great instead of a Shield why not heal seems it was harder or takes long to activate. Other alternative on his passive was keep the Shield but adding a new effect that increase his healing on just like an Oracle but on his passive to balance maybe tone the Shield a bit. His ultimate last Hit make it true damage.
agreed to late game damage and passive, I observe that most of my games is like this, 2 atk items 2 def items and boots, the last remaining item determines how he will become on late game, another def item, he is durable as tank with sustainability but lack dmg, if another atk item, his late game dmg can burst heroes but still to squishy (1 combo kill or ur the one ded instead, maybe adjust his basic skills or passive or add more mobility on his ulti state ( or casting speed)
Been using Lapu since 2019 and the old one I use to turret drive alot because his old Combined Sword 2nd skill has a blink. The new one I didn't like at first but it was better because of the cool down. I have almost 3k matches with him, followed by Dyrroth and now Julian. But after using Julian and returned on Lapu, I've realized that he does indeed need more. Just a little bit more damage and more Physical Pen on his 3rd will be all I'd want. Or since his Combined Sword's 3rd Skill's long cool down can't be used again in Combined Sword state, might as well make it a "revert to dual" after using it. Or better yet make it a blink that also reverts him to Dual Sword. But I think that's too much and they'll sacrifice his damage more for mobility. Ugh.
He has a similar problem with martis fighter build, damage greatly falls off late game while not having that much sustain early game to compensate. Ironically both of them have anti cc + dmg reduction effect that kinda does nothing to vale's damage ult's damage, silvanna or dyroths penetration, and etc.. the skill casting is also a bit slow for anti cc + dmg reduction skills most of the time (3.martis,2.(lapu)²,1.yss is how I would rank the skill cast animation). Definitely the three need some buffs. Especially knowing that lapu and yss are heroes based on certain countries.
One think can make him good is that lower his hp is faster his energy recharges and also sheild value increases according to physical dmg or hp built. This Little Thing can make him best jungler or a tank easily
1. speed of the 1st skill needs to be a lil' faster. 2. the cooldown time of the 2nd skill need to be lessen 3. i think the 3rd skill need to be revamp instead of smashing 3x ... whirlwind style lioe balmond 1st skill so it can combo for the enhanced 1st & 2nd skill.
i think it all boils down to "more room for improvement" like you said. there are others things they can put on his skills but aren't which makes it bland and singular-purpose type.
He was nerf but it doesn't mean he is weak. He is literally dominating if used correctly in exp lane if you fight old fighter against lapulapu. Lapu lapu will win by a landslide.
Big problem: with heroes such as Phoveus, Esmeralda, Thamuz and Terizla (although I'm pretty sure Terizla is off the list already), not only can they offer to dominate the lane and be useful later into the game, but they can each easily win a matchup against Lapu Lapu with ease.
What Lapu-Lapu lacks isn't damage, but rather, armor penetration. I suggest that he receives a passive where he gains armor penetration percentage which goes up as he levels.
Lapu Lapu poking skills and enchance passive in early laning phase is the most annoying against lapu lapu and if you dont have a immunity your doom at his combo with enough damage so I like to pick Yin enchance s1 helps a lot and all pen against tank lapu lapu or delete my war axe/boots for blood Lust for sustain if lapu lapu survive
The fact that The fighter role usually has the king and queen of life steal and some are forgotten Lolita and aurora not getting a revamp Are the ones that can't have a good usage rate most of the time
revamp passive: LAPU LAPU can b picked only when your team's tank is a GODLY atlas. I mean look at tit, the atlas in solo in this match was a legend who won 80% of the team fight by himself, rest left for teammates to finish. Every ult, he caught 2+ enemies, what a CHAD!
After using his ult (3 slash) you will not have any mobility to disengage in combat making him a free target. It would be nice if he can forcefully return to his normal mode to use his dash skill
That why flicker is must for him..jungler role are not suitable for him
@@masihimhaf His speed is not good too, in his ult. His stunning skill is also slow, he will still be an easy target for the opponents before using stun+flicker. His defence now is not great too against good enemy composition. He can do good in a match, but weaker then many other characters.
@Muhammad Hanzo but sadly no reduced dmg. He is forced to sustain dmg and only successful if enemy are around a line. If Lapu’s base defence was slightly higher, he was in meta now. If his dmg was slightly higher, he was in meta too. He’s no far from meta because spell vamp for him is good, but better with higher dmg or very well if he had more sustain on himself.
@@gamescgg6864 his old ult had damage reduction on the spot and gave him a mobility skill which made him more sustainable on his own and especially in team fights when trying to chase or escape
that's true
I've been using him as a main since last month. Lapu Lapu just needs 2 adjustments,
1) passive just takes too long but has little buff.
2) 3rd skill's 3rd burst animation takes forever to hit
Yeah I agree even though I am alu main lapu lapu is fun to use.
@Muhammad Hanzo Doesn't matter.
It gives barely any benefit in his arsenal.
@Muhammad Hanzo its so dogshit that it barely makes a difference
@Muhammad Hanzo he also gain 70% percent hybrid defense when his ult form is active but they also nerf it
@Muhammad Hanzo after his ult he is pretty useless he is too reliant on his ult to be any effective in a team fight
I liked the old Lapu more, he said " the enemies are many and i am alone, but one slap and kill them all". And he made for destroying teamfights with insane dmg and a dash in his ultimate form. I got a savage with the old Lapu and i only had 10 games with him. If he caught you with his ult you were dead, not to mention his old petrify and flicker combos.
Yup..
I use the
passive shield
Aegis shield
Passive shield again then
rosegold shield.
And then passive shield again😂
I chain those 3 shileds, it made him unli shield😂
Old lapu was one heck of a hero. Good for team fight and 1v1. Huge ass damage on ult state
@@tanhouzer yeah until a pro esme lambasted you
3k first skill on ult state
But no dash tbh on ult stance
I kinda agree on the passive change, something similar to Guinivere could work since Lapu-Lapu is a Caster/Fighter kind of hero.
Bro, unlike Guine or Argus, Lapu Lapu can charge his passive even from his skills
@@averageguy6167 Bro Guinivere can also charge her passive using skills and i think for argus too
@@moai6225 Argus can't. Plus almost every skills if Lapu Lapu are AoE hence he can stack up his passive pretty much faster than Guine or Argus when there's more enemy units around him
@@averageguy6167 “MORE ENEMIES” is the keyword here, his survivability decreases if there is only one, and thats bad if its someone like zilong , thamuz etc.
@@Sp3nz. Lapu Lapu is made for team similar to Terizla, can't you see all his skills are AoE??? And why would anyone want to convert a team based hero into a 1 vs 1 hero like Thamuz or Aldog. (But Thamuz is also good in team fight)
He's an early game hero so falling on late game is quite understandable, and the reason they gave him shield instead of heal is due to his AoE and Spellvamp that allows him get full hp just from a single wave.. Overall, its quite decent. Tho I agree there should be changes made about his passive and lategame damage because unlike other fighter, lapu lapu's damage is falling way too hard. It would also be convenient if they gave him a bit of durability when he's using his 2nd ult, so that he can tank for the team when the tank are just nuts..
Well i like the old one more. Because even in late game he can still be a threat. The old lapu lapu raw burst damage is far more efficient than his revamp. What i like about his revamp is he became very tanky, that I even build him pure tank after I built Blood lust axe.
i think by giving his first skill in base form 2 versions where if they're melee range it has increased damage and has faster cast time and maybe a bit of spellvamp for his first skill like hayabusa would be great for him in the early game against sustain matchups
I'm very much enjoying the way Elgin is explaining in this video it's just very understandable and it even has visuals which all of us like 😌
I think Lapu-lapu is already a strong life steal beast. I think the one who really needs an upgrade is Minisittar 🤔💭
But minsi is getting revamp already
@@mochi-kun856 braxy need buff
He's just not good vs tanky comps that's all
@@mochi-kun856 then he needs another revamp his passive especially like bro his passive is mad useless it is very situational if youre losing then the passive is useless if youre winning you better end it fast cause its unusable in late game. Which is a shame since minsi tank is very fun and good but downpressed by his useless passive😢
Nah terizla spell vamp is much higher than him so lapu lapu really does need a buff
His previous skills where the most balanced because his 1st could damage in a straight line with no gap, his 2nd is a dash much longer and has speed up buff, his ult has much longer ranged stun and his 2nd phase ult are effective of bringing damage. The Heavy sword state 1st is a ranged skill that deals big damage and slowdown, the 2nd was a short dash but deals more damage than the normal one and his heavy state ult is a burst where he swings his heavy sword that deals large amount of damage around him. His passive was even more simpler to fill because it just needs five bars to activate just like pacquito and aurora by using his skills against heroes and creeps. Now the current lapu-lapu might be more agile than the previous one but his 1st has a gap, his 2nd is shorter and ult is a bootleg version of freya's 1st. His 2nd phase 1st and 2nd skills are a much weaker version of his previous ultimates and the ult deals much bigger damage but needs to swing 3 times where heroes could easily avoid while the previous ultimate just needed to swing once reaps a lot of health. His passive was a gigantic nerf that moonton thought they could fool me that its a buff. The passive no longer fills like the previous version and it fills very slow that they added an asspull feature to his ult where it'll fill half of the bar so he could use the passive where the previous just needed to do the principle. And one of my biggest gripes as an ex-lapu-lapu user is how they changed his awesome buff design into skinny looking faggot, his sword design is mediocre unlike the previous one that looks like it was molded in a stone and he just took it it really looks awesome and the most embarrassing part his voice lines are cringe and that they hired a mediocre filipino voice actor to just get more filipino players but in reality they don't need to.
Elgin:This is a bad idea
Also Elgin:Let's do it
Elgin: Lapu-Lapu needs buff.
Also Elgin: *destroy the enemies with Lapu-Lapu*
ally atlas was rlly good
They will buff him, or even give him a new effect when casting a skill
When they want to give him a new skin
Moonton logic
Just like what they did before they gave him starligh skin😌
Then after that... NERF
@@daryl9340 chou no need bluff, he is too strong
@@iamlaosno.1rogerandwanttop160 yeah, also chou really fun to play. But I have a question, why is your username that?
@@iamlaosno.1rogerandwanttop160 very weak without tower lol
This kind of narrations along side with gameplay make me feels like having a two way conversation.
I really want Moonton to change his passive damige into true damage because most of the time I play him is I always build 2-3 attack builds and the rest are defense and he's kinda lacking of damage, yes.
"this is probably a bad idea"
"let's do it"
Lapu Lapu back then was already maxed out
I am using Lapu Lapu as my main hero, have over 3 k matches with him.
-First of all, I did notice couple of rookie errors when Elgin played him 😛
-Second, for me, the old Lapu Lapu was undeniably perfect there is no need for revamp but ok, it is what it is.
- His passive is fair to say useless, at least they could give him critical damage when he charges with full pasive if not anything else, so, critical damage or bigger shield or nothing else but faster way to build his passive.
- And as my last opinion about this video, that very first animation when Lapu is jumping in Ult form and smashes ground, that animation is waaaay too long, and if you add time that is needed to activate ult (3 smashes) it takes forever especially that last hit, while he is in that form easy target if he jumps in team fight because he cant activate passive while his loooong timing animations end, not to mention that he can't escape once he throws himself in the fire of battle.
This is my opinion from over 3 k matches with my lovely Lapu Lapu, and I hate, just hate to see him suffers from that nerfs on his back, not to mention that moontoon forgot about some new skins for Lapu, it is such a shame god damnit
MOONTON should return Lapu-Lapu Second return his DASH SKILL when ULTIMATE FORM
It kinda suck tbh
The damage is not great, the dash is slow and quite short
@@baguette1363 compared to the second skill that you have 75% dmg reduction you're right
For some reason, I prefer Lapu Lapu's old skills sequence lol
Like him just like many other forgotten fighters. They’re all either have weak dmg or week sustainability.
But honestly, compared him to all the other forgotten fighters, he definitely has a kit much better than them to be balanced in this meta like ruby, martis or yu zhong.
The only problem is that he doesn’t have a disengage skill other than his normal form 2nd skill, which would mean he’d be dead by the time his BIG sword form’s over. Maybe i’d suggest bringing his OLD 2nd skill back where it swings AND dashes, the only addition, being if it hits multiple enemies gives him the stacked dmg reduction.
So like what elgin said, he definitely needs some nerfs reverted or few buffs if moonton wants lapu2 to shine again like what they suddenly did to terizla (then completely nerfs him xd)
Elgin also pointed out that his first skill needs to be flexible when it comes to targeting, which I fully agree on. He's kit isn't bad, it's just moonton neglecting him.
@@JustPhoenix. yeah, the skill being only a poking skill makes it harder to use when he’s fighting up close, so I definitely agree that they should just adjust that so he isn’t always ult reliant
I agree with you Elgin. As a Lapu-Lapu main for 2-3 years I really notice that he is good in early to mid game but it cannot carry the team because his damage in the late game seems weak. That's why now I only use him rarely.
But his sustainability is in the top tier.💪
I am a lapu2 too
Sustain is his game
He becomes dependent on the team in late game becouse he lacks damage
i really like that ML heros are just
"i will slay the demons!"
or just
"i will destroy the light"
While a guy called Lapu-Lapu pass the vibe
"I preffer bleed till death in the battlefield then see my people suffer" 🗿🗿
As a Lapu-lapu main i do agree his early game damage high. The only improvement i can think of is sustaining long fights and mobility on his ultimate form. Most of the meta fighters have sustain to last long battles while lapu-lapu will gonna run out of his skills and ultimate when it comes to long fight, i think they should add some little bit of mobility on his ultimate 2nd skill + plus decrease cooldown and long lasting ultimate that can last long against sustain and tanky enemies. the reason why i want him to last long fight was because he is kind of squishy without his ultimate because of defense buff. Without his ultimate, his damage will gonna fall off real hard and his tankiness is also gone.
The "1+1" reference is criminally underappreciated. Or am I considered a boomer at this point?
"i think Lapu-lapu deserve some buff"
Moonton:"you gonna got buff when you got your damn new skin!"
I think my future prediction below about Lapu-lapu's buffed passive will make his enhanced basic ATK more spammable:
(1) Energy gain 10 energy per hit (half from non-hero unit/s) will change to 4 energy per second (taking/dealing hits from/to each unit also gain the same amount);
(2) Requirement/s: 100 energy change to 50/100 energy (if any);
(3) Revamped effect: 250(+65*Hero Lv) Shield change to restores 5/10% Max HP(scale with used energy);
(4) Physical DMG dealt: 150% Physical ATK change to 126(1*Hero Lv)(110% Extra Physical ATK)~152(2*Hero Lv)(120% Extra Physical ATK (scaled with used energy);
And (5) New effect: Enhanced Basic ATK also deals damage to enemies behind the target.
Says lapu needs a buff: shows that lapu melts enemies
Elgin: this hero needs an upgrade
But lapu lapu is already op compared to other fighters
I find it weird the Lapu's dash has a longer cooldown than other fighters, I mean it is just a simple dash.
I actually see no reason for him to be forgotten tbh
But if they were to buff him then add more movement speed and defense stats to his ult and I think he should be good. Also he needs to last longer in ult form cause 10 secs feels too short. I mean sometimes I wonder what's the use of building war axe on him
I've been playing Lapu since 2018 even before his revamp. I'd say his old version was better. This version of Lapu has no mobility in his ult which gives him the most damage. Charging in with his ult makes you choose from his 3 skills which is just, damage, stun, or damage reduction. He has no mobility in the stance which leaves him reliant on his spellvamp and then hoping to get away if he already used all his three skills while there are other enemies chasing. In this meta, his damage is not enough to sustain himself and really needs mobility back in his ult. I'd have more to say but obviously I just preferably want his old version back lol
Me to i miss old lapu lapu
Old is gold I hope montoon bring back lapu lapu
yep
Yeah me too I miss the old one. The old skillset of lapu lapu is very effective in ambush the only thing that is pulling it down in the META before is the difficulty of his passive to stacks.
Gloo:"sigh" I never get any one to use me.
I feel he need his second durability back
@MeliodasZ woah singapore top 2 supreme granger:0
Wait they removed the dmg reduction on his enhanced 2nd skill??
@@Gromper7878 no just nerfed it just like his shield in passive
WE WILL WAIT FOR LAPU TO BE UPGRADED
Revert him back the way he was when released....old lapu ❤️
Everyone gangsta 'til Lapu-lapu puts the hell-of-shame of every youtubers and their main meta heroes. 🤣🔥
Lapu was really good when he was revamped but the rise of newly released op heroes like Paquito, julian, Yin, revamped thamuz, revamped leomord pushed lapu into forgotten section.
Lol before those op heroes rise... Lapus revamped was nerfed heavily... Its not that he was overshadowed but nerfed to the ground
@@nyrieneeisher4079 I agree, after the nerfs, I don't even see him anywhere
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Oh I miss old lapulapu, I had 564 matches with him 64.5% wr, I could ambush those squishies everytime I had my ult.
I felt that
He's so strong like phoveus. But they so slow. They reminded me like terizla
Using Lapu-Lapu is like weilding a blunt knife, so you feel like it's harder to cut things.
I've been checking him out recently and I feel the developers should work on his passive while on ult mode. Like faster rage regen during his ult, so he can make the most out of his passive skill.
Blunt knife
Well I mean he does uses a stone sword
@@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger Yeah but its still a Great Sword in Heavy Sword State. I like the old lapu more since you can kill squishy hero almost instantly. The only problem for him before his revamp is his passive stack gain and his Ultimates CD, but when you have already built max CD Items, you can cast his enhanced 3rd Skill TWICE!!!
Bring back the old Lapu Lapu and his old voice lines.
Agree.. I miss my main who carried me to mythic really easy.
After the revamp, i don't use him anymore, too squishy, useless stacking, low damage, low spell vamp.
@@tanhouzer Same Lapu Lapu was so fun to use moonton ruined it for us we didn't ask for the revamp. We asked for bug fixes and cheats they didn't listen to it. They revamped all of those heroes that i really loved playing seriously this sucks.
finally this vid is here. I hope moonton sees this and gets him some buffs
Great narrative and comments, I love ur videos
That last team fight was very nice
I think mlbb should add a stun when lapu-lapu uses his ult because its pretty easy to escaep when you have an enemy that has a dash skill and his enchanted first skill should be faster to hit so you cant eascape :)
6:45 That would be quite problematic in the current meta, as it's currently defined by defense-ignoring damage. Much worse when this defense-ignoring damage is HP defined. **AHEM Karina Karrie Thamuz and the entire Malefic-DHS squad** Adding more true damage heroes would be a dirty move by Moonton... I'd hope not.
That atlas was carrying the teamfights
The nerf I really feel is his 2nd skill in ult form they reduce the dmg reduction per hero hit. I agree on faster of refill of his passive and a small dmg buff.
(In 2024) yeah lapu-lapu does. He's so slow
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I think we can all agree that beatrix desperately deserves a buff. Her 4 guns and mobility are not enough when compared to other marksmen. Moonton should give her 7 guns instead imo
edit : this is satire, I am not being serious. Please stop threatening me lol
Nah
What are you talking about, you think a hero that deals 2k damage per hit need to have mobility like benedetta? Also this video is about Lapu-Lapu, not Beatrix
yeah buff Wanwan too, she needs to be more tanky
@@dondopyrocanto1530 I don't even know if you're being serious or just sarcastic
Bruh is this a sarcasm 🤣
But no Pls, just nerf that overpower beast already.
The only reason she doesn't get nerf probably cuz of her M4 skin
elgin: i think lapu lapu needs an improvement
Mizaki: german cut until the game finish
Hororo chan and Elgin hyping up all forgotten/getting forgotten heroes XD
maybe can add extra mv speed when use ulti second skill base on enemy hit, as second skil get dmg reduction base on enemy hit, so with extra move speed, should be nice
I want moonton to gimmie bacc my old belrick
I miss the old version of lapu. His ult and his enhanced skills were way better.
Not to mention the 80% initial damage reduction after ult, then drops down to 40% after 2 seconds.
I would suggest to make his three slash function the same as Grangers Ult, you can control where to swing his giant sword
Do you know what lapu-lapu’s E-Ult does??????
@@Charl1e_Sanchez yeah I know, he swings three times and you can control the joystick every swing, I was just suggesting maybe make its function like Grangers Ult where you can aim the three where you want them to swing
I can adjust here a bit: in lapu's enhanced skill, the 3rd skill rather giving it mobility , It should be given user controlled( like the 2nd skill of terizla). I think this would be better
The title need to be. Lapu-lapu deserves love.
They should add a passive where he eats lechon after the energy is full healing his hp
Minsi: OK (CLENCHED FIST)
Mi "The German Cutter" Zaki be like:
ArE yOu SuRe aBoUt ThAt?
"Umalis kayo sa aming LUPAIN" Damn that line make proud as s Filipino
Wish that they bring back his Fighter/Assassin back
i think lapu is good the fighters that need a upgrade is
1:alucard
sure the damage is good but i feel like he should have higher lifesteal
2:argus maybe just return the 1sec stun then he will be ok again
3.4:minsi and martis
Yes alu is jst a jumping feeder, argus is good already if we Play safe
I think they should make his ult jump actually stun enemies like we need a pay-off for jumping into the enemies having no way to escape
Yes I use a lot on Lapu-Lapu and what I want his skills is great sword fighting styled that does the first skill three damage activate skill second a dash damage third it change different skills one it shoots big massive blade second crowd control that pulls enemies towards you last one would be deadly slam that does crowd control too and his passive is breaking armor that makes everyone else too weak to trying to reduce his physical
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Lapu-Lapu plus Angela would be lit. I've tried it before and it works really well.
i remember when i first started playing ml and he quickly became my main because he was so annoying for heroes with low mobility (this was a really long time ago). now most heroes have some type of dash skill so it’s easy to escape his ult. miss old lapu and old ml
Passive: when the bar is full and attack a hero or non hero target lapu lapu he gain 10% of his max hp if lapu lapu is full hp he gain 5% shield
Inhans first skill: 4% faster casting and when attack a hero or non hero target with you:re basic attack after you cast the 1st skill you deal true dmg of his max dmg
Inhans ult: 5% faster casting of the skill
I think if they would add true damage to lapu lapu is not a bad idea like the enhanced justice blades will deal true damage to enemies but based on their total lost hp or the final blow on lapu lapu's 3rd ultimate(while on heavy sword mode) would be a great adjustment for his damage can still follow up on enemies on late game♥️⚔️
These are my suggestions
Passive:every time his enhanced basic attack hits a creep or hero all of his skill CD get reduced 20%
Skill 1:it should be flexible and give more spell vamp
Enhanced skill 1:it should deal true damage and can be used to escape
Skill 2:it should stun enemy heroes or creeps it hits
Enhanced skill 2:much more wider range and should give a dash if successfully hits a enemy hero
Skill 3: Transformation should give plus 35% shield and give lapu lapu a boost of attack speed
Enhanced skill 3:It now can be cancelled when using if you kill a enemy hero one additional swirl will be added
Elgin just flexing how good he is at playing.. 😏
also thanks to his good teammates esp. Atlas..
_nice heroes composition too_
One of his ultimate's saving grace was the passive effect of his enhanced 2nd skill, which is damage reduction. I think in his enhanced state they should also add some movement speed and attack damage as buff to make him stronger in ultimate form at least.
He was revamped but easily forgotten because of his consecutive nerfs, and that makes his revamped skills useless
His old ult immediately gave him damage reduction on the spot which gave him engaging so much easier..All they really had to do was give him better damage in his old version to compete in today's meta...
not many people knew about it but his previous version of 2nd skill before his revamp allowed him to dash by a small distance while dealing damage
Yes same to X.borg he needs an upgrade too
Bring back the slow effects
I want to clear out something on
3:00
I'm an Argus user and I can tell you the part "receiving" damage doesn't really works
His passive only replenish when attacking or just idling. Sometimes I think this is a bug since it's been a long time that they didn't fix this yet, it's still on his passive description
i think all it is is that he needs more overall damage and also he needs an option to revert to normal normal state for skill 2, and maybe reduce amount of hits needed for passive
0:17 no way you just did the rewind which Shinmen Takezo did very recently in his intro
Lapu-Lapu is one of the Hero who have longer Animation or delayed skill before it Hit but once it Hit its more rewarding. I guess i could agree to the enhance 2nd skill to have a small dash just like his old skill. Or making his Attack Animation faster. I think he's more on teamfight oriented so giving him a substantial damage or sustain would be great instead of a Shield why not heal seems it was harder or takes long to activate. Other alternative on his passive was keep the Shield but adding a new effect that increase his healing on just like an Oracle but on his passive
to balance maybe tone the Shield a bit.
His ultimate last Hit make it true damage.
agreed to late game damage and passive, I observe that most of my games is like this, 2 atk items 2 def items and boots, the last remaining item determines how he will become on late game, another def item, he is durable as tank with sustainability but lack dmg, if another atk item, his late game dmg can burst heroes but still to squishy (1 combo kill or ur the one ded instead, maybe adjust his basic skills or passive or add more mobility on his ulti state ( or casting speed)
It's like Odette's ult cause if you're in the center high possibility you'll die
Been using Lapu since 2019 and the old one I use to turret drive alot because his old Combined Sword 2nd skill has a blink. The new one I didn't like at first but it was better because of the cool down.
I have almost 3k matches with him, followed by Dyrroth and now Julian. But after using Julian and returned on Lapu, I've realized that he does indeed need more. Just a little bit more damage and more Physical Pen on his 3rd will be all I'd want.
Or since his Combined Sword's 3rd Skill's long cool down can't be used again in Combined Sword state, might as well make it a "revert to dual" after using it. Or better yet make it a blink that also reverts him to Dual Sword. But I think that's too much and they'll sacrifice his damage more for mobility. Ugh.
He has a similar problem with martis fighter build, damage greatly falls off late game while not having that much sustain early game to compensate. Ironically both of them have anti cc + dmg reduction effect that kinda does nothing to vale's damage ult's damage, silvanna or dyroths penetration, and etc.. the skill casting is also a bit slow for anti cc + dmg reduction skills most of the time (3.martis,2.(lapu)²,1.yss is how I would rank the skill cast animation). Definitely the three need some buffs. Especially knowing that lapu and yss are heroes based on certain countries.
Martis is not like this guy
Big credits to atlas the last set was totally awesome
One think can make him good is that lower his hp is faster his energy recharges and also sheild value increases according to physical dmg or hp built. This Little Thing can make him best jungler or a tank easily
What a godly atlas. I wish I can have a good tank as well
1. speed of the 1st skill needs to be a lil' faster.
2. the cooldown time of the 2nd skill need to be lessen
3. i think the 3rd skill need to be revamp instead of smashing 3x ... whirlwind style lioe balmond 1st skill so it can combo for the enhanced 1st & 2nd skill.
Where could I check nerf patch history? Same like 1:27
i think it all boils down to "more room for improvement" like you said. there are others things they can put on his skills but aren't which makes it bland and singular-purpose type.
props to the atlas with the sets, good tank.
He was nerf but it doesn't mean he is weak. He is literally dominating if used correctly in exp lane if you fight old fighter against lapulapu. Lapu lapu will win by a landslide.
Big problem: with heroes such as Phoveus, Esmeralda, Thamuz and Terizla (although I'm pretty sure Terizla is off the list already), not only can they offer to dominate the lane and be useful later into the game, but they can each easily win a matchup against Lapu Lapu with ease.
No I've use him since 2018 and I can see the different and as elgin said you're at big loss in late game
@@alonkob2127 indeed the only main damage he has is basically is ultimate which giving enemies chance to fight back
Yews
@@alonkob2127 don't compare esme to those heroes, esme can dominate against any hero
What Lapu-Lapu lacks isn't damage, but rather, armor penetration. I suggest that he receives a passive where he gains armor penetration percentage which goes up as he levels.
your voice funny but i like it sir, and your video Ml just like my senpai(shinmen takezo)❤️❤️
nice video btw sir
Lapu Lapu poking skills and enchance passive in early laning phase is the most annoying against lapu lapu and if you dont have a immunity your doom at his combo with enough damage so I like to pick Yin enchance s1 helps a lot and all pen against tank lapu lapu or delete my war axe/boots for blood Lust for sustain if lapu lapu survive
The fact that
The fighter role usually has the king and queen of life steal and some are forgotten
Lolita and aurora not getting a revamp
Are the ones that can't have a good usage rate most of the time
revamp passive: LAPU LAPU can b picked only when your team's tank is a GODLY atlas. I mean look at tit, the atlas in solo in this match was a legend who won 80% of the team fight by himself, rest left for teammates to finish. Every ult, he caught 2+ enemies, what a CHAD!
anybody noticed that he missed his retri 2 times while taking turtle and lord.