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What will America look like with all these single moms and single dads. Stop suggesting to men to stop dating single moms. its not good for America to have so many miserable people being single. Let them have an institution of a family.
@@richardv9648Give me a break. There are generally so many issues associated with dating single moms that it is absolutely best to avoid them, in general. Like Rich says, "Why complicate your life?" Obviously, if she could not keep it together with one or more men who she bore children for, how is she ever going to keep it together with someone else? In general, she cannot and will not, and knowing that obvious fact means that one can save himself untold drama via just avoiding single mothers. Like The Bible says, if she wants to be married, let her return to her husband or remain single (1 Corinthians 7:10-11).
Will somebody tell me why bald guys always feel that they have to grow beard it’s like well I don’t have hair on my head but if I have it on my face, it will look just as good. It’s such an absurd, insane unrealistic weight of view hair you know put it on your face if you don’t have it on your headfreaking crazy
For 5,000 years of civilization, female virginity was required for lawful marriage. A marriage to a divorced woman was always known as adultery. That was true of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The last generation may have tossed out the laws of God for the sake of Modernity. However, that does not mean the laws of nature actually changed.
absolutely. it's like she showed questionable judgement and had a first child 'sired' by some guy, then she chose a guy willing to look the other way concerning her being a single mom who in turn she couldn't make it work with,, if that makes sense. So it's as if she made at least three poor judgement calls.
@@TheAirlock I wonder if red flag has another connotation. Bulls rush in when they see a red flag. While smart people know to run away. I guess the unthinking men are drawn in by the red flags? Just brainstorming, sorry to bother.
Definitely true. The real difference in my opinion is the man is generally the disciplinary of the kids. If it's not his kid, it's always going to be a point of contention. Women aren't expected to do that for another mans kids.
She is if she lives with the man with kids. She's paying for food that the kids will eat, as well as cooking and taking care of them. If you're sharing rent, she's also paying for a bigger home/apartment than would be necessary if he didn't have the kids.
@@improvisedsurvival5967 don’t be a deadbeat dad bro. You shouldn’t be okay with another man raising *your* kid. That’s a low value trait. Take care of your kids.
As a single father, I know that men do not get a pass on being a single father. I have had women tell me that they would not date a man with kids. I didn't get hurt about it.
If I may chip in, I don’t have any children but have been singled out by single moms due to this, when I have replied “well you’re a single mom” the answer is “well my kids aren’t a problem”
The prime REASON WHY: Because your finances are not pouring into them and their future kids. Everything is fkn about them. That's why they see it as a minus.
Dated a a single mother for a year. Did my best to support her teenage daughter whenever possible, did my best to support both of them emotionally, and even grew to love the kid like she was my own. She ended it because she still had feelings for her ex (not even the father). The break-up sucked but losing the kid was one of the hardest things I had ever been through.. I swore to never date another single mom again. Sorry if that seems extreme but the potential of losing a bond like that is too much of a risk factor to ever attempt again.
I didn’t see the big deal at first but I dated her for 3 years and became best friends with her 4 year old daughter. Watched her grow from a little 4 year old to a 7 year and when it ended it was the darkest period I had ever felt in my life. 3 years later there’s not one day goes by I don’t think of her. The ex wanted to try and reconnect but she had already monkey branched to other men after we split and I couldn’t accept that. Now she’s still single and her daughter is still fatherless because of feminism
My work colleague went through the same thing. Took care of 2 Kids for 4 years and then the mother met some random dude on a 2 week course away from home and ended it. Men, remember: Pump and dump.
And she is looking for a guy that she may be interested in pursueing a relationship that has the potential to work the guy to death, should he pursue her long term.
I knew some guy who was dating a single mom and was looking to propose when she told him she was pregnant. He immediately ended the relationship on the spot. Why? Because he had a vasectomy 12 years prior. She was stone cold busted and now she was back on the street with a bun in the oven to boot. Pro Tip#1: If you bluffing with four aces, you better make damn sure someone else does not have an ace as well. For anyone out there thinking, "sometimes a vasectomy could fail." Which is why my friend went to the doctor ASAP to double check as he did feel a bit guilty. Doc came back and said he was sterile as sterile can be, tested twice, zero sperm detected both times.
When you deal with a single father, you're dealing with someone that there is a 70% chance tried to maintain a family. When you deal with a single mother, you are dealing with someone that there is a 70% chance chose to dissolve her family, often in the most destructive way possible. There is nothing else to understand.
@@jordyvanbrussel3057 Don't let it bother you brother. As an old guy I can tell you, they all want to come back later. And the thing is, if you take care of yourself, you cannot imagine ever allowing that. They bloom beautifully then "poof", away it goes. You can grow stronger for decades though. It's really not fair to them at all.
@@dcg590 As a man I would make sure the woman pay every cent. Every guy should think like that. Women are quilty for the modern age problems and in the age of feminism they should pay every cent a man would pay.
Single fathers stayed with their kids, single mothers were left with their kids. Especially true in traditional cultures with avmigrant workforce, but even in the west most single mom's weren't wifed by Chad, not divorced from a beta. That being said, some men should date single mom for as long as it lasts: if you are very picky, you can shoot out of your league.
I noticed that people that come from old money families ALMOST never mess with single moms. Single moms don’t fit in their plans for preserving generational wealth.
I married into franco-belgian aristocracy and have been happily married for 9 years. We have 2 kids (expecting our 3rd). They dont tolerate NEITHER man or woman with previous kids. The sharing of love, resources, time and all the drama associated with having to keep up with previous relationships is not worth. I would never give a chance to my husband if he had kids already. He is a handsome, smart, gentleman multimillionaire businessman and I would still pass. I had options and would not downgrade for someone who didnt wait for me to start a family. Never. If you are high level and it's in high demand it goes both ways.
I am 57 and speaking from years of experience, and yes, I have dated single mothers in the past. Dating single mothers is like going to Prison for a crime that you didn't commit, You will never be "Number one" in their life, not worth it, Guys just don't do it!
I FEEL LIKE ...whatever i want is what i should get whenever i want it Men: this is why you have 2 baby daddies and why any man would be INSANE to put up with it
@OP that's because their goal is not to reach an understanding of right or wrong, or true or false. Their goal is to gain ADVANTAGE. and so they will say any combination of words as long as the outcome is: they have an advantage. So they will use Shaming, Morality, Philosophy, and even Logic, if it serves their goal of gaining ADVANTAGE .
As a man I literally won’t even date or sleep with a single mother. I don’t want to risk both accidentally getting her pregnant and being tied to that mess. Or B risk catching feelings. Fuck that.
I made that mistake, didn’t get her pregnant but got feelings for her. Was in a relationship for a year and she broke up with me and went back to her ex bf after day 1 of breakup telling me I didn’t give enough time and attention. Left me a mess
@@ThisIsIt42768 well hopefully you learned your lesson. Go work hard for a few years. Sacrifice and save 100k in s&p 500. Then go find a beautiful foreign wife of any variety and treat her super well! Have a good day my man!
i did it it was a disaster i left and on my way convinced her ex baby daddy to adopt i got lucky in the end and escaped any court payments good lesson learned
The main difference Rich didn’t mention, is that when women say they don’t wanna date a single father the men are like ok cool your choice. When men say they don’t want to date single mothers the women freak out and try to gaslight them into doing so.
In some cases, the reason is ..because if the man has no experience with kids , then the mother ends up having to teach him along with the kids . Then y oh are looking at a whole other issue. Men are not born nor taught at any age how to be a good father . Most learn on the job training, and like us all make plenty of mistakes. But for a single mother she has already gone through those mistakes and doesn’t want to repeat them again. I love how you guys never really discuss these situations, when they make up a majority of the people.
I disagree, I was taught how to be a good father (until 19, he died)by my father. Also, from other men, fathers in the neighborhood. I always tried to be a good father, dad, accepting that I would make mistakes and should’ve done better. I had a wonderful wife, but after an awful divorce (thanks to you effing methheads out there) I received custody of our three minor children. 24 years later, we still have good relationships which I don’t take for granted but I’m very thankful for. Please don’t mistake being a “baby daddy“ a.k.a. effing idiot, for being a real man, father, dad.
Well he really should have stopped her in her tracks when she brought up the point about single fathers because that's not what this topic of conversation was about in the first place and he allowed her to deflect from that.
I am a grandma age woman and I agree with you. The kids are extra people that come along with the single woman. As lovely as kids are, they really complicate a relationship. They are a huge amount of work.
Single mom - instant NO-FLY ZONE for me - no exceptions, no excuses, no hesitations: Not my Circus, Not my Monkeys - Definitely not my bills, not my responsibility. Not ever. Not once.
As regular as clockwork ... She tells her kid(s) to treat you like cr*p then tells you how much easier life would be if you adopted her kids. IMMEDIATELY after the adoption ceremony, she serves you with DIVORCE PAPERS and you are stuck paying for HER brats!!! 😢😢😢😢
Being a single father of 3 kids, the single mothers just ran away from me. The normal women had no problem dating me. Some of them treated me as a hero, for raising Mr 3 kids after divorce.
The metric of attraction has always been different for single fathers. You are looked at as a provider wear as single mother has looked at as damage and used goods.
"John, we've been dating two months now, and it's been great." ...... "Yes, it has been great Melissa. You're a good woman." ...... "Okay, but now here's my son little billy." ...... "FUUUCK HIM!!! I'm outta here!!"
@@josephinetracy1485 Right same kinda thing. Not really though because the man must work and make ends meet. Women don't really have to but they SHOULD.
San Francisco Bay Area mid-1980’s I went before “Family Court” three different times, at three different ages, pleading with the court to award custody to my dad. He was a dedicated Christian. Regular churchgoer. Single 5 years after my mom filed for divorce. Not dating in or near the home. My mom lived with her on/off boyfriend who smoked weed in front of us and left the coke scale on the dining room table. He got physically abusive with us numerous times (as elementary school kids) and we were exposed to nude adults running around the pickle barrel hot tub, drinking and taken to nude beaches. The court “awarded” custody to my mom on every single occasion. Thank God dad used his Tuesday nights to take us to Mervyn’s and buy us clothes because the child support that he paid promptly was immediately “contributed” to rent. Were it not for my dad I’d have gone to school with holes in my shoes. Several school years. FAMILY COURT WAS A SCAM 40 YEARS AGO. I shudder to imagine it today. And people ask why I’m 52 and MGTOW. Had to fight with everything in me to earn these 6 years clean and sober. Broken homes F kids up. They just do.
Not having any authority over the child is a bullshit reason. Men only want to provide and provision for their own child their own DNA, Period. My time is valuable, my resources are valuable and I didn't work so hard in my life to raise another man's seed. Let alone the baby daddy drama and dealing with a woman banged and impregnated by other man.. is this even a joke? Rich is not speaking direct language to these women.
I think the idea is that you are getting a ready made family. How does that hit you? I recall a particular day around the holidays when I was in a barbershop chair getting a haircut, it was a F barber, and I was hearing what she was doing with her kids during the holidays arts and crafts stuff. And I don’t like any talk at all. That was 10 yrs ago. Damn the effect - it still has since I’m not involved. Shet, it’s some powerful shet. Never doing that, a M only when I’m in the chair. Or cut my own F’in hair. Shet I stay away from it all - thank god I did, just saying, now 60 plus I said F it at about 38, crazy suicide. Others still attack me being single, it never ends. And I’ve seen close neighbor guys loving this way or living, better dead than that shet.
So, it sounds like your ex was looking for a babysitter with domestic help and sexual services. I agree, I would never do that for the same exact reasons Rich had listed for single moms.
I'll tell you why it's different : 1- Financially you will be paying for her and her kids most if not everything. And even those so called " strong and successful" women will still expect you to pay . On the same point, if you wanna do something nice for her , the kids will be involved which will increase your financial burden . As a single father however, she isn't gonna pay shit for those kids no matter how successful she is . 2- in Most of custody agreements , the mother is the primary custodian , getting her kids most of the time, meaning you will have her kids most of the week , which means less intimate time and again, more financial burden. Single fathers have the kids maybe on weekends at best in most cases,. 3- Most women's sexual drive tapers off after having kids. She will flood you with sex in the beginning, but that will disappear pretty quickly once she got you hooked. Men's sexual drive in most cases is gonna be the same whether they're single fathers or not. 4- Nothing more humiliating for a guy than to raise some other man's seed, and he can't discipline them in most of the cases . Any showing of authority will get you the "you're not my dad you can't tell me what to do" , or " you can't do that to my kids" . While single mother can get the "you're not my mom" , she is not the primary authoritative figure. And to get back o point number 2 , most guys will get 2-3 days/week at best , which mean less time to have kid drama. 5- If you ask most men, the best period they had with their women is before having kids. That's because her attention was on you . After having kids , Most of the attention will go to her kids. So you skip the best time and go right to the shitty part. A single dad will have his attention on his kids, but he will always gives his attention to his woman as well. Men and women give and receive attention differently. Point number 2 and 3 proves this point as well. 6- Women decline in value as she ages because a woman's value is mostly dependent on her beauty. Men become more valuable as they age if they worked in themselves. 7- The woman's most valuable asset is her womb , and she gave it to another man . Women are more emotional than men, and she will always have some form of attachment feeling to the baby daddy. Men has that with the baby mama , but trust me , that love disappears every time you have to fork that child support and alimony . 8- A single mother if she's older will not give you kids if you want your own lineage. A single father can have kids at any age. 9- Lastly , a man can get stuck paying child support for her kids as we all know >90% of child support goes to the women , so it's not the same the other way around. Are there exceptions to that rule , sure , the 1 women out of the 10000. A man with value doesn't have the time to look for that unicorn. Even a man with kids should not get with a single mom. If you're a man with no kids and getting with a single mom , I don't care what's your excuse , you are a low value man with no options. No single man with no kids and even little value would take that deal. Let's call a spade a spade and cut the delusion .
Thank you for taking the time to write this out so clearly and concisely. I get a headache watching Rich talk with women who argue just for argument’s sake, and avoid any kind of accountability.
Blond woman with two kids from two marriages, let's break this down. 1. Two failed relationships 2. Two exes 3. Two more mouths to feed 4. One or two extra bedrooms 5. High chance that at one point she will leave (see #1), and your relationship with those kids will br terminated 6. If domestic chores are divided your workload increases 7. Most times her body is trashed or at least not what it was before kids 8. You will be #3 priority 9. Questionable decision making abilities 10. More than likely quite a bit of emotional damage (also see #1) 11. At any point her child support could decrease or end, guess who will make up the difference 12. If you marry her she will monkey branch if given the opportunity (see #1 again), enter 50% loss of assets Where is the up side? At least she didnt rate herself a 10.
The upside is they usually just wanna bang because they're getting money from the fathers of the children. So once in a while you pay for a babysitter for her for the night.
Your list is speculation though, another possibility is - What if she had the first one at 17, and there was no marriage. And then the second one was planned but something was wrong in the marriage and she got divorced?
Back in the day I dated a single mom. Was set up by her aunt that I worked with. Kid was just a baby at that time. ended up liking the mom and thought maybe we might have future together. Few months in she ended it because she was still in love with the baby daddy. Where was the babies daddy? He was in jail doing 7 years for almost beating her to death. She was literally still in love with a man that beat her so bad she spent week in the hospital. That was the last single mother I ever dated. Ended up marrying a girl overseas best decision I ever made.
I moved in with a single mother and 2 kids in 1993. I spent 7 years caring for the children ( 3 & 4 yrs old). I treated them as if they were my own. Supporting them all financially and emotionally. Sports, outings, camping, did it all like a normal family. No drinking, smoking or drugs. A perfect home environment. Then she decided that she had a better offer from a man younger than her, and I was unceremoniously shown the door. Never to see the children again. Which compounded the break up for me emotionally. I became an MGTOW for the next 20 yrs, long before the term ever existed, buying 2 labrador puppies instead. It was the best decision I ever made. I wish the internet and YT existed back then.
The fact that the children didn't try to contact you at some point, especially when older says a lot about them and the mother. None of them had formed any type of attachment to you or experiences with you. I think it was President Harry S Truman who said about Washington, "If you want a friend get a dog." No one is as faithful as a dog except two dogs.
@@robertcuminale1212 The reality is that the children could have been told I wanted nothing to do with them, who would know? It was a tough learning experience. As I said above, I took a leaf out of Truman's book, bought myself two labradors, and never looked back. Actually it was Mickey Dolenz from the Monkee's who gave me the inspiration. Listen to his song 'I'm going to buy me a dog'.
I agree, stay clear of single women with a kid. At age 22 I started dating a woman with a 3 year old child who was seeing her father weekly but he wasn't paying a dime in support, I put an end to the visits, he took it to court and was forced to pay child support, which is all I wanted so I wasn't bearing the load of caring for his kid, 7 years later after moving the family to a different state she left, took the kid, with not even a thank you for helping to raise a kid that wasn't my own. Stay away is my advice.
In their mind they have no reason to thank you. She and her kid deserved it, and her kid was entitled to it as a condition of dating her. Thanks for sharing your experience and warning.
2 more negatives(from experience): 1. A single Mom, when she's finally able to see you, will not want to make you dinner, etc because she will be exhausted being a single Mom, as she should be. She will want YOU to do all the planning, take HER on special dates, fancy dinners, and treat HER like a queen but she will not have the energy to reciprocate and treat you like a King. It's a great deal. Then, you can wait 2 weekends, if you're lucky, to do it all over again unless...(see #2) 2. She will likely have other commitments on one of those "free" weekends, like a friend's baby shower, birthday, girls trip, etc etc where she will, shockingly, have all this energy she didn't have when you finally got to see her. So, you maybe get to see her one weekend per month and you better plan something fun for HER.
I just matched with a single mom and talked to her one day, and all this became apparent. She has a photo of her mountain biking on her profile. I'm a mountain biker, so I'm thinking sweet, a shared interest. Then in talking she says she didn't go for a single ride all year! Next thing, she likes to travel, as do I. Then says a trip for next year is "up in the air" because of other things going on. I stopped texting her, lol.
@@huntstyle That's the irony. They shouldn't have time to do things, like mountain biking, skiing, etc because being a Mom is the most important job in the world. Yet, they want to pretend they do these things to get a boyfriend. Maybe, just maybe, if they have 50/50 custody, they could indulge in these hobbies more often but I haven't seen it.
@@gmoneymac23 True. About the only time there's a chance is when the kid or kids are older and self-sufficient, and probably don't want to hang out with their mom anyway.
Rich, what you failed to state here, is that those kids will never consider you their "real father" if their biological wants back in. Once he does, they will drop the stepdad like a rock, its happened to me more than once, and ive finally learned my lesson. Not correcting someone elses mistakes!
Absolutely! All kids will prefer their real dad. I saw a spiel from a single mama with three different baby daddies and said that it’s her partner’s responsibility to sort out teh baby daddies. Like three men and three children to one.
It’s in a persons nature to see their biological father as their real dad even if he did nothing ever for them. Only in rare cases where the biological dad never showed up do kids ever end up viewing step dad as their real dad. What real man would want to invest 10-20 years raising a kid only for that kid to not appreciate them.
Never date a single mother. That kid always started fights between us, but never took the blame. Then with all the time, money, effort in raising the child, one day he says to you, "You're not my father". That day will come.
Literally had one attempt to kill me over taking away video games for usung my credit card online and his mother took his side. That having a kid playing 🎮 was worth more than my life to her. 💀💀💀
She seems like the dumbest of the 4 women but talks the most. Rich or Moff will clearly answer her question, then she'll say "but I don't understand why [exact same question that was just asked and answered]".
One thing from my personal experience is that I was raised by my grandparents. Why? My stepfather was a traditionalist who had an issue with me not being his child. So, my grandparents stepped in to take custodialship over me so they were comfortable I would not be abused. Secondly, I remember my ex-wife asking me if I had any children of my own with any of my past relationships. She basically informed me that she would have an issue if my attention was focused between her, her family, and any children I had. So I see this argument from a double point of view. But I feel if I had any children, she would not help me. Whereas she expected me to provide support for her children and grandchildren.
I’ve noticed a lot of comments are about “me,me,me” if she is willing to help you out with your kids then you should help her out. It should be mutual- single mom of 2 (same dad) this is why I don’t date and I keep to myself. Everyone wants treat me a type of way just bc he got cold feet. I’m always the everyone’s fuck up that they want back and begging to take back after the damage is way to far gone. All I get out of guys is me taking care of them and they walk when my cup is dry. I just want someone to pour into me so I can pour right back into them. I want that step mom moment if it’s there bc all kids should be loved. It would be nice to find someone who would treat my kids the way I treat their kids but I’m told I do too much. I was making sure his kids had shampoo and a dresser and a bed at my house and that was too much for his kids bc they bring their stuff from their moms house. Shouldn’t I welcome his kids here? They should want to be here right? Almost all the comments on this video are so selfish. I can’t even date and find someone decent bc everyone is like this. I’m so sorry your step dad was like this. Being a single mom was not on me, he chicken out because of his own issues. He now apologizes to me but another woman is living the life he promised me
More Facts.Mine drove a wedge with my kids.....behind my back.....Flat out told them they were not taking me away from hers.Didnt hear from them for years...couldnt quite figure it out.Then one day........
I was granted custody in my divorce. I was 42 years old, and had custody of a six year old daughter. And the women that I dated never did completely take on my daughter as their own. I always felt that if I had got remarried that I would have an evil step mom in my house.
Are you saying that you allowed these women to interact with your six-year-old daughter - even before wedding vows? You allowed your six-year-old daughter to possibly get emotionally involved with these (possibly) fly-by-night girlfriends? You allowed your daughter to risk being emotionally damaged by the subsequent separation?
Sounds more like you were picking the wrongs ones then introducing them to your daughter way to soon, and then complaining about who you picked . Accountability dude.. you were the picker .
"knowing you come last, after her kid(s), her parents and her dog." Get in good with the dog and you're all set. 2nd grade I had a friend who was thin as a rail and ate dog food the dry kibbles and dog bones. I didn't believe him until we went into a grocery store. He punched a bag of dogfood and grabbed a handful, then got some dog bones and started chowing on those too. Told me to try it. Nope. His father had remarried and he was from the first marriage. I always took it that that's what he did to survive. Super wealthy family btw. Bad stepmom imo. Hope he made it.
@@drewodessa2483 When I was like 6 years old, the girl living next to my grandma's house was eating dog-food as well. They were pretty poor I think. When eating cereal (more accurately: müsli), she ate it with water and I was like wtf no you eat it with milk. Her father was probably an alcoholic, since this girl took me out to a bar to hang out with her, she wanted me to be her date, because grown ups had stuff like that too - or something. She was a really really fun girl, and I missed her a lot when she moved out.
@@marcp.1752 I agree but it is still happening. I guess the courts look for the person with the deepest pockets. Reminds me of ambulance chasing lawyers. Lol Guys who are actually working and making money become targets to more than just women wanting a Beta provider. Guys have actually self deleted because of this stuff.
As usual these women are in complete denial regarding anything negative about them. I have tried to date single moms and it is a HUGE pain in the ass, and I will never do that again.
You can’t have a rational discussion with women who still think they are prize. They will never accept that bringing children from another man into their new relationship introduces drama that most men don’t want to deal with. They don’t care how most men really feel about it, only how THEY feel about it.
I was a single dad of my 2 biological Amerasian children for nearly 10 years, and raised my daughter and son successfully with zero assistance/ support from their mother. It was only after the hard work was done, and both kids were successful adults, that she began to desire contact with her own kids. There were virtually no support systems in place for a single dad (Veteran) anywhere to be had, but we (me and the kids) damn sure did it.
Once upon a time, a man asked a woman to marry him. She said no. From then on, he ate what he wanted when he wanted, he drank what he wanted when he wanted, and he did what he wanted when he wanted, and he lived happily ever after. The end.
When I was 14 in 1981 my parents divorced, sold the dairy farm and my dad quickly remarried about 3 months later, moving from Minnesota to Victoria Australia. Besides 2 months on his farm in a trip to Australia in 1985 I had very little contact with him between 1981 and 1999 when I got email. A huge vacuum was left in my life as my mom had lots of baggage from her rough childhood and no guys had anything more than a short interest in my mom and she never remarried. I found myself wandering around Fleet Farm and other large shopping places like I was lost. Looking back at that time I was looking for a father. One of my Doctors got to know me well enough that he figured out that my life was lacking positive encouraging role models. One of my brothers told me that my dad regretted leaving me without a father figure in my life. But my father followed his heart marrying a much younger woman from Australia.
@@metalmike570 I was given the choice of living with my mom or moving to Australia and living with my dad and his new young wife. I was undecided until one of my brothers suggested my mom as the slightly better of two bad choices. My dad was bipolar with an explosive temper and his wife was very very driven and feisty which I didn’t need with the ptsd I had since age 5, 3 very big traumas from age 5 to age 8.
@@MustangsTrainsMowers Well in the end you're normal, and lived this far and seem grounded. Do you consider yourself successful? Also it seems like a choice that a kid shouldn't have to make at all. You shouldn't frustrate yourself about it now. I guess that the thing is when a boy is about 11 he should see his father a lot because it will influence who he is, and can learn guy skillsets. Just my opinion but going into puberty yeah seems right to seek out your father. It's all behind you now anyway, did you go to Austrailia at all?
@@metalmike570 Successful no, had Lyme since about 1983, diagnosed in 2013. Australia yes 4 months 1985, half of them with my dad. 13 days in 1999 and 7 weeks of an 8 week trip in fall of 2002. He passed January 2023. I never was able to really connect with him.
@@metalmike570 At age 14 when my parents were divorcing I decided I was going to have a manufacturing business. I’m very mechanical, intelligent and creative but Lyme pretty much derailed my plans. In 2017 I was so sick I thought I had 2-3 years to live.
Oh, they will agree there are differences, but when he brings them up, they just say, "Well, casting that aside..." EXCUSE ME? The new dad doesn't just get to CAST those issues aside. He's STUCK WITH THEM. My favorite was they just didn't get what Rich was saying about passing the footballs through their vagina. They weren't connecting the dots. THAT MEANS YOUR PUSSY IS BLOWN OUT. SEX WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD! All they got from it was that yes, men and women are different, women can give birth.
I just told friend to move in silence don’t explain her business to the world I am good example as far us woman do make that mistake branching off without no real reason
@@melvynobrien6193 my friend is a single mom I broke the friendship off from a woman speaking to you , she brought too much baggage toward my family but taking accountability b
A woman is not a car... a single use object... there are no men and women, there are people, all different, all with different situations. Each person deserves a second chance..
I dated a couple of single moms. I was never on the Priority List but expected to be the financial safety net/pay for everything. Two learning experiences for me.
The funny thing is I think a lot of these women understand that ,but they refuse to accept it because that would be accountability for the bad decisions in life, such a selecting the bad boy to have a kid. with
I am the example that Rich is describing. 35 years ago I was not around to get his advice or my life would be different. I married a single mom, who had two kids and two different men. I loved her and them, so it was not a big problem. I essentially raised her kids as my own. One father wanted nothing to do with his offspring and the other did with his and has some influence on the child growing up. I had another two children with my wife then and had a great family. Now after 35 years she left me. And her two children? Now both want nothing to do with me after I raised them, gave them a good clean home, kept them well fed, provided a good Christian influence, showed them a good work ethic, kept them safe, participated at all school events (band, tennis, swimming, etc.), took them to ALL their hobbies and extra-curricular activities, took them to fun places like Disney World, theme parks, camping and much more. NOW they have thrown me away like yesterday's garbage. So, YES men, don't date women with their own children expecting those children to accept you as their father and love you when you get older... no matter how much love and attention you give to them... after all... they aren't yours. So, if you choose to marry a single mother, chances are that it won't end well for you.
I can agree with all of this. The mother of my 2 children. She was a single mom, her daughter was 1 at the time. She's now 17. Her mother and I haven't been together since she was 15. I was there for everything. Her biological dad didn't really put much into being a father. But that didn't matter. Her daughter pretty much doesn't really have much to do with me anymore now that her and mother aren't together anymore.
Thank you @@henryjoshual1848 I'm comfortable with raising 4 kids into productive citizens. I did my "job" as a man. My two kids love me, but hers do not. I guess "blood" really is the most relevant factor.
"I had another two children with my wife then and had a great family." So a family of 6. "Now after 35 years she left me. And her two children? Now both want nothing to do with me" So they're now in their 40s and want nothing to do with you. I think that might be due to reasons other than the divorce. Also what happened to the 2 biological children you had. Also how old was your wife when she divorced you? 60? "don't date women with their own children expecting those children to accept you as their father" They did for 35 years.
Nope, as they said looks has mostly little to do with it, it's about status and monetary potential. Sounds harsh but that is how the "Majority" of women judge men.
What if she had the first one at 17, and there was no marriage. And then the second one was planned but something was wrong in the marriage and she got divorced?
Men usually look for love and to build a family, women look for someone to pay for everything. That's literally the biggest difference between the 2 genders when it comes to relationships.
I married a single mum, happily took on 3 great children. Best decision i ever made. Married for 14 years until covid to my wonderful wife. Choose the right person when you marry.. doesnt matter if they have kids or not
Watched a friend date a single mom for years, then she decided to leave and he never saw the children he had formed a deep bond with again. The little girl was in diapers , he's her daddy fir six years now he's gone. It was very bad for him and the children.
good luck you are just seen as a wallet, you have no authority yet all the responsibility for her kids...her kids will always come before you..@@kjaergaard12345
When Rich said "is there one Disney story with an evil step father" and Jordan blurted out "because it's not fantasy it's real life." That told me everything I needed to know about her.
This is dumb. Step dads mistreat step kids and rape them and beat them all the time. Sexual abuse goes up by the thousands when being raised by step dads . Just because children’s fairytales don’t cover this ugly truth doesn’t make it not true . This was super illogical
@@gatanegra8815 He's not saying there's no evil stepfather. There are loads of movies about that but when it comes to wish-fulfillment stories, you generally don't see evil stepfathers that often. If it implied that there is, they're completely absent in the story.
@@seriouscat2231 If she wants her equal, then she can look for a guy who has those qualities and is a single parent, also. Otherwise, the single, childless men who have those qualities are not likely interested in her.
@@bambooforrests, the kids were not the point. The point was that she probably, nah make that obviously, does not have those qualities. She just ignores the kids and goes straight to the prince charming stuff, as if she now had a second try to land one.
I had FOUR children, 6-2yrs old when my husband married me. He has always treated my children as his own, and I allowed him to also discipline them. Then my husband and myself had FIVE more children together. We are a big, happy family with nine children and nine grandchildren! We will be married 38yrs this upcoming October. AND, no way is my husband a simp either lol! I’m blessed ❤
So? I know people that have won the lottery and became multi-millionaires. Doesn't mean I am going to encourage people to blow money on a ticket, let alone base their retirement plan on such a ridiculously low percentage chance of success. We are trying to WAKE WOMEN UP TO REALITY, so they don't keep making these insane choices that set them up for failure down the road when there is NOTHING they can do to fix it. For THE vast majority of women, walking around with someone else's children means their options for men, drop dramatically, even IF they had realistic expectations, which most don't. So bringing up the one in a 100,000 exception is NOT helping them or their delusions. It's great that your husband was willing to step in and save the day, but it COST HIM, A LOT. He missed out on what you gave to the guy no longer in your life but got all the responsibility and hard work that went with it. Now I have no idea why you were in that situation. Obviously if your first husband died in battle, work or a sickness or accident, that's clearly not your fault, but doesn't change what your current husband had to deal with. Now if your profile pic is anywhere near recent, then 38 years ago, I am sure you were an absolute smoke show. So if you had a great personality, brought peace and comfort to his life and not contentious strife, then I am sure he did the math and figured, it was worth taking on the responsibility to get such a rare gem. But that's the point. You were a RARE Gem. Most of these women aren't, so they have zero chance of hitting those lottery numbers. Also, 40 years ago, most women had a VERY different mindset, than they do today.
We don't want to deal with other men's cast offs. The single woman with multiple kids by multiple fathers have already demonstrated a propensity for making bad choices and a lack of discernment. Many of them want the new man to clean up their mess.
Multiple fathers two kids not only yells 304 and she can't even plan her own outcomes. How could you expect her to help and be a partner with household maintenance and financial future planning. She obviously has no impulse control and no ability for delayed gratification. Her kids would be the exact same.
When I was in my 20s I met a lady who was pregnant, we got engaged, and she moved in with me. I became the legal guardian of her son. Everything was fine until the child was born. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. Taking on someone else’s children, and expecting people to treat you as the father, is a pipe dream!!
I am a single father basically. I have my son half time. I have a house, financially secure, put together well. Dating has been the WORST at 40. It’s a mine field.
Take it from a guy who is currently in the situation, dont do it. I always stayed away from single mothers but i just had to have this woman and decided to try it. She moved in with me due to a circumstance. Of course her daughter came with her. It had been hell sometimes for the last 3 years. I jave the responsibility of provide a roof over her child's head and everything that comes with ut. The drama with her ex. Its too much and not worth it. I have a daughter from marriage who i see everyday and have 3 days a week. Her and her daughter is jealous of my relationship with my daughter. I explained to her that my daughter is my responsibility, her daughter is not. I feel like a visitor in my own home. Fellas please stay away from single mothers. My sister is a single mother and i would tell any guy she met to leave it be.
If married, it's a trap ime. The eventually break up the custody arrangements and child support was brutal, as will be the divorce, depending on the state.😢
A friend of mine dated a single mother within a year he moved in with her, she used him like an ATM and kept pressurising him into having a baby with her, the baby trap some men fall in to, eventually his money ran out and she fell out of love with him and he had to go. just makes me think how many other men did she do this to.
Yeah... My last single mum girlfriend tried that tactic on me... Very open and willing to getting pregnant! I dated her for 2.5 years and never once climaxed out of fear she would use my own seed against me!!!
As a single mother I swerved single dads, it’s more than I was willing to take on (the ex, working between two households, compromised resources), and I completely understood and respected men who didn’t want to get involved with me because of my kids. Everyone has the right to set those limits for themselves.
Best comment on this most ridiculous video and thread. Why. Opinions versus so much data out there that not a single member of this panel mentioned about being a single-parent...You nailed it. You accept your time schedule, tasks and even social judgements, +++ much more to conclude what direction works for you to take...Best wishes in life going forward👍
Single dads are the preselected. Men win the game by attaining paternity, not sxx. And single moms often have no paternity to give. And if they do, and the man stays, the cost is double or tripple. Single mom means proof of not being able to keep a man, despite the staggering cost for him to leave. If she left, there is a loyalty issue that will also affect the new man. Two baby daddies means a second dude understood this, took the last paternity and ran. Because lower opportunity cost than raising both. There are species where the female eat the male after mating... that male is still the winner. Even at the cost of his life he would have won. You let a man go, and he reproduces with another woman, that cuts the resources for your kids in half. The hotter the dude the more likely that is. Every guy that you date after divorce, you or your kids are unlikely to inherit anything from. And you will probably have destroyed the father enough that there won't me much there either. You are getting owned through sheer ignorance of the dynamic and consequences. If you don't want to breed the bottom half of the men, then by definition you need to prevent other women from breeding your baby daddy. There are vastly more women than top tier men, so losing one is a loss for you. There is no way around it. You already compromised your resources, and any man without kids is a higher flight risk. More likely just there for sxx, more likely grab an opportunity to attain paternity elsewhere. The ex, yes but your ex is a bigger issue for him than she is for you. The household issue is temporary, you are looking for a man for the period after kids. The kids round you already lost.
Jordan has a dog also. A good friend of mine married a woman with a child and 8 years in she actually told him, " I would get rid of you before I got rid of my dog." Like the husband was something to 'get rid of'. It eventually happened.
I know two women who were stepmothers. They did not love their stepkids. They treated the steps differently than their biological kids, and it was obvious to anyone who paid attention yet they had no idea they were doing so.
@@LorenaCruzCarinono thats bs. biology is biology. I dont buy that women can love step children like their own just because they want the man. Its just not natural. This sounds like some feel good bs. you yourself said that single fathers are targeted by women who seek to use them and not love, them, so even allowing your claim, they would not love the children cause they would not love him. and single fathers are not deadbeats. they are good people who have been taken advantage of by the kids mother. for a man to be a deadbeat, he needs to have left the mother without her doing anything wrong. almost all breakups are initiated by women, so that excludes almost all single dads from being able to be deadbeats, since the breakup was the woman choice not his. deadbeat dads are a myth. the only people I know who have these kinds of fathers always involved a mother picking obviously unstable men because the other ones were "boring", so its also the womens faults. 99.99% the broken family is the womans fault. I have never seen or heard of a stable man who wanted to date for family leave a woman who did not mistreat him in some way, but the opposite I have seen and heard of often.
@70two41five Correct, the biological component is Oxytocin the bonding hormone that women create when having children. Biological dads do get it initially too in the infant stages, but it's much less than the amount of oxytocin the mother receives. And this hormone Oxytocin is responsible for having a relationship with a partner, so when the Child is instead bonded to the mother, the relationship between partners will be dull.
I was 22 and in the German Army, I was together with my girlfriend but we have broke up after 2 years, maybe because I was allways abroad (in the Kosovo)... 20 years later I met her again, she had 3 children from 3 different guys and I was so foolish to start a realasionship with her for 1and half year... It cost me about 20 thousend Euros and a fals acusation of beating her (I was release by the court for free). All I can say: singel moms are more dangerus than those enemys which I was fighting in 4 years Bundeswehr duty...
I was involved with a single mom briefly. The way she always took her son's position vs mine. Even when I was attempting to set boundaries for his good, she often took any authority away from me. Thode & other reasons made it a short relationship, thank God. Her son described the mother with this phrase "my moms my dad". That explained everything about how he viewed me!
Wait for the right woman to come into to your life because it will be better rather wasting your time on someone whom don’t share similar goals interests c
@@LorenaCruzCarino that not going to take you seriously nowdays this is happening to my mother since she been a single parent since 20 years after my father got divorced not every man is going to take a single mother seriously especially if she doesn’t have no long term goals set for herself or even purpose
@@rvh1999Mums is the British English spelling of Moms. That's how it's spelled in countries like UK, Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. It is therefore also correct.
If youre a single mom, look for a single dad, you are a balanced match. You will always put your children before him, he will always put his children before you. You are matched and balanced. You're welcome.
You forgot the number 1 reason never to date single moms. Her online ad always says MY KIDs ARE NUMBER 1 in MY life. and they should be. Then stay single till kids are gone.
They will still be number one in mom's life, even after they are on their own. And once they become a grandparent - well just forget it. Just know that the guy will ALWAYS be number 2.
@@bborosswill any man should be thankful to be near Jordan and her awesomeness... The sleeve tattoos giant stupid dog two headache fathers with the two kids that she never mentions once by the way
Single parents should date each other. I wouldn’t want my future daughter with a single father or a man with multiple kids but I also wouldn’t want my son with a single mother.
Single mother don't have that leverage since she is NOT going to provide for the single father and his kids. Also, single father don't have biological clock unlike women.
I was a single Father and the only thing the women I went out with would say is when are you going to have a free weekend? When a woman has kids it’s always my kids come first, it’s the same on dating sites women will always say my kids come first but then turn around and say it’s better if your kids are not still at home. Double standard and hypocritical because they have to be at the center of the universe because they think the world revolves around them.
I was trying to just be friends with a single Mom of three. I could never win, she was always on edge, there was always stuff going on with her kids, or the ex. There was a lot of story and trauma, also for the kids. I felt like her rock and when she was not there anymore, I realized how quiet and peaceful and restful my life was and that s what she was looking for, a place to rest. She was also a great listener and funny and very personable, and I was the one being dumped, so to speak, but when it happened and I came out of the emotional spin, I eased back into my own calm and peace, and that was also beautiful. Sometimes I still remember and acknowledge this friendship, but I also remember the emotional roller-coaster.
The calmness in Your conversation with Your guests comes from Your self confidence because You already "done the work", long before they were even think about these topics! There is no magic, no persuasion, no hate speach, no hurt feelings... just polite, calm conversation with crystal clear facts. It is so valuable to see, in such short period of time, what does it mean when some one say: "Do the work!" Thank You man.
If a guy decides to have an ltr with a single mother and it doesn't work out. It's highly likely that he can be liable for those children even though they aren't his. If you reverse the roles, a woman that gets involved with a single father and it ends. It super rare that she will be on the hook financially for his offspring. As someone who tried the single mother shitshow I advise men to avoid it at all cost.🧐
Female here.. the way that Gillian reacts, sums it up. These women feel they have to live defensively and justify their actions continually. Which means they know they are guilty. As for Jordan she's trying her best to justify two children with different Fathers. Thats just screaming easy. I know I wouldnt want to be next in line there
I’m 50. Last year I dated a 36yo single Mother for about 7-8 weeks. That was enough. I considered it, because I’m in a better position in life vs 20 years ago. Never again. Here’s the hierarchy of importance… Her Kids Her Kid’s Friends Her Kids’ Teammates Her Kids’s Classmates Her Pets Last Night’s Leftovers *You/Her ex *Your Finances “Your Finances can move up and down the chart when needed. *You and her ex can swap places at any time. The one I had dated said no kind words about her ex. She was the martyr, the victim. It turns out they tried to make it work after I was gone and that only lasted “a week or 2”. Dates were altered for little reasons such as an increased homework load; “Tina’s mom is Sick and can’t take her daughter to dance class.” It’s just not worth it. The sex is quiet, potentially not as frequent and scheduled.
Man I’m 46 have no kids and if I was your buddy would have knocked you upside the head when you started dating her! It may be hard to see but we get more and more valuable as we age to these women. Don’t ever date one with a kid - I won’t even date one who has a kid that is 25+. They too come with massive drama - ‘my 25 year old kid can’t pay the rent can we give this kid $2500?’ type of things. You will NEVER be #1 but always expected to make her and her kids #1. NOPE, I know my value - don’t do it again man - ever.
The biggest thing for me, as a single man with no children, is that I will never be her top priority, but she'll be my top priority. We can literally never have the same level of commitment to the relationship, and that is a huge key to happiness in a relationship. Not to mention, I'm used to not doing kid activities, and that is the last thing I want to do, especially when it's not even my kid!
@HC-sb1ru oh yeah, they'll tell you straight up that you come second to her kids. Which I understand, but she needs to understand that makes her far less desirable.
Correct my friend. On what planet does that makes sense to expect first place when you’re handing out crumbs??? I couldn’t agree more. I could never do it to myself, nope.
@@Wombat-y7t I’m sure every human alive would be ok with coming second to their own blood, but another man’s? NO ! I would also be ok with being broke because I have to take care of my kids , but another man’s? NO!
Dating a man with children was a complete nightmare😢... I have no children. My ex was on an emotional rollercoaster! His ex wife was constant drama - pure evil👿. No thanks to men with children! I only date single men with no children.
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What will America look like with all these single moms and single dads. Stop suggesting to men to stop dating single moms. its not good for America to have so many miserable people being single. Let them have an institution of a family.
@@richardv9648Give me a break. There are generally so many issues associated with dating single moms that it is absolutely best to avoid them, in general. Like Rich says, "Why complicate your life?" Obviously, if she could not keep it together with one or more men who she bore children for, how is she ever going to keep it together with someone else? In general, she cannot and will not, and knowing that obvious fact means that one can save himself untold drama via just avoiding single mothers. Like The Bible says, if she wants to be married, let her return to her husband or remain single (1 Corinthians 7:10-11).
Will somebody tell me why bald guys always feel that they have to grow beard it’s like well I don’t have hair on my head but if I have it on my face, it will look just as good. It’s such an absurd, insane unrealistic weight of view hair you know put it on your face if you don’t have it on your headfreaking crazy
For 5,000 years of civilization, female virginity was required for lawful marriage. A marriage to a divorced woman was always known as adultery. That was true of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
The last generation may have tossed out the laws of God for the sake of Modernity. However, that does not mean the laws of nature actually changed.
2 kids with 2 different fathers is a HUGE red flag.
If she doesn't see the reason why its a red flag, that's a red flag itself.
more red flags than in a communist parade
absolutely. it's like she showed questionable judgement and had a first child 'sired' by some guy, then she chose a guy willing to look the other way concerning her being a single mom who in turn she couldn't make it work with,, if that makes sense. So it's as if she made at least three poor judgement calls.
I’ll bet she is a champ in the bedroom- and knows it.
That's a walking red flag. Just put a bra and makeup on the flag.
@@TheAirlock I wonder if red flag has another connotation. Bulls rush in when they see a red flag. While smart people know to run away. I guess the unthinking men are drawn in by the red flags? Just brainstorming, sorry to bother.
When a woman dates a single father she’s not expected to financially support the children but a man is expected to.
Yep men are expected to uphold traditional gender roles while modern women have dumped ALL of their traditional roles
Definitely true. The real difference in my opinion is the man is generally the disciplinary of the kids. If it's not his kid, it's always going to be a point of contention. Women aren't expected to do that for another mans kids.
@@Sketch_Sesh - Bingo!
not in DATING only in marriage or living together
She is if she lives with the man with kids. She's paying for food that the kids will eat, as well as cooking and taking care of them. If you're sharing rent, she's also paying for a bigger home/apartment than would be necessary if he didn't have the kids.
"When I grow up, I want to be a stepdad" -said no one ever
😂😂😂
You be surprised how many simps out there raising another man’s seed 🙄
@@Son-of-Kryptongot one raising my kids 😂sucker. Thanks for relieving me of the burden.
@@improvisedsurvival5967 don’t be a deadbeat dad bro. You shouldn’t be okay with another man raising *your* kid. That’s a low value trait. Take care of your kids.
@@M0SSADDID911Pookie and RayRay tactics.
Single moms aren't looking for love. they're looking for help.
All the time
Then they have to go to a doctor!
😢
Looking for both. They want to fill the emotional void the baby dad left
@juliannoble6 that's never gonna happen.
“Single Mothers are a Liability, not an Asset“
-Kevin Samuels 💯💊
KS Nailed it in one line 👍🏼
Most women like 99% if not more are liabilities
Facts
Woman are a liability
That’s what it comes down to. When it doubt ask yourself one question fellas, is she acting like an asset or liability?
As a single father, I know that men do not get a pass on being a single father. I have had women tell me that they would not date a man with kids. I didn't get hurt about it.
A single father with money and personality has ton of options…never forget men are success objects !
If I may chip in, I don’t have any children but have been singled out by single moms due to this, when I have replied “well you’re a single mom” the answer is “well my kids aren’t a problem”
@@Project-Masculinity The self delusion is incredible
I’ve been told that two or three times, also
The prime REASON WHY: Because your finances are not pouring into them and their future kids. Everything is fkn about them. That's why they see it as a minus.
Dated a a single mother for a year. Did my best to support her teenage daughter whenever possible, did my best to support both of them emotionally, and even grew to love the kid like she was my own. She ended it because she still had feelings for her ex (not even the father). The break-up sucked but losing the kid was one of the hardest things I had ever been through.. I swore to never date another single mom again. Sorry if that seems extreme but the potential of losing a bond like that is too much of a risk factor to ever attempt again.
They don’t take no accountability and they want a man to do all the work
I didn’t see the big deal at first but I dated her for 3 years and became best friends with her 4 year old daughter. Watched her grow from a little 4 year old to a 7 year and when it ended it was the darkest period I had ever felt in my life. 3 years later there’s not one day goes by I don’t think of her. The ex wanted to try and reconnect but she had already monkey branched to other men after we split and I couldn’t accept that. Now she’s still single and her daughter is still fatherless because of feminism
The kids get used to a revolving door of men and fathers they don't see that much because mom makes it difficult for him. In my experience.
They don’t call you ‘thrill house’ for nothing . . .
My work colleague went through the same thing. Took care of 2 Kids for 4 years and then the mother met some random dude on a 2 week course away from home and ended it. Men, remember: Pump and dump.
Dudes dating a single mom are looking for an easy lay.
And she is looking for a guy that she may be interested in pursueing a relationship
that has the potential to work the guy to death, should he pursue her long term.
I knew some guy who was dating a single mom and was looking to propose when she told him she was pregnant. He immediately ended the relationship on the spot. Why? Because he had a vasectomy 12 years prior. She was stone cold busted and now she was back on the street with a bun in the oven to boot. Pro Tip#1: If you bluffing with four aces, you better make damn sure someone else does not have an ace as well. For anyone out there thinking, "sometimes a vasectomy could fail." Which is why my friend went to the doctor ASAP to double check as he did feel a bit guilty. Doc came back and said he was sterile as sterile can be, tested twice, zero sperm detected both times.
@@tedwojtasik8781 Is 60 too old to get a vasectomy? I'm done, I don't
want any BS from any gold digger women.
@@tedwojtasik8781 👏
An easy lay with who? The kids?
When you deal with a single father, you're dealing with someone that there is a 70% chance tried to maintain a family.
When you deal with a single mother, you are dealing with someone that there is a 70% chance chose to dissolve her family, often in the most destructive way possible.
There is nothing else to understand.
Not to mention, a single father doesn’t expect a woman to provide for his kid while the woman expects a man to
Treu i tried but she thought te grass was greener
@@jordyvanbrussel3057 Don't let it bother you brother. As an old guy I can tell you, they all want to come back later. And the thing is, if you take care of yourself, you cannot imagine ever allowing that. They bloom beautifully then "poof", away it goes. You can grow stronger for decades though. It's really not fair to them at all.
@@dcg590 As a man I would make sure the woman pay every cent. Every guy should think like that. Women are quilty for the modern age problems and in the age of feminism they should pay every cent a man would pay.
Single fathers stayed with their kids, single mothers were left with their kids. Especially true in traditional cultures with avmigrant workforce, but even in the west most single mom's weren't wifed by Chad, not divorced from a beta. That being said, some men should date single mom for as long as it lasts: if you are very picky, you can shoot out of your league.
I noticed that people that come from old money families ALMOST never mess with single moms. Single moms don’t fit in their plans for preserving generational wealth.
Good observation.
Facts. I have been warning my son against doing anything stupid like this and he is only 13. With wealth comes wisdom and an instinct to.protect it
I married into franco-belgian aristocracy and have been happily married for 9 years. We have 2 kids (expecting our 3rd). They dont tolerate NEITHER man or woman with previous kids. The sharing of love, resources, time and all the drama associated with having to keep up with previous relationships is not worth. I would never give a chance to my husband if he had kids already. He is a handsome, smart, gentleman multimillionaire businessman and I would still pass. I had options and would not downgrade for someone who didnt wait for me to start a family. Never.
If you are high level and it's in high demand it goes both ways.
Yes. That's probably true. There are certain people you can marry and certain people you can't.
I'm pretty sure their family would disown them. I would not like if my son dealt with a single mom.
Gentlemen, you're not dating a single mother, you're dating a broken family.
Then why are these men dating single moms ??? It's just for easy sex
🎯
This should be top comment
You’re dating someone who expects you to be a provider and be thankful that’s she’s giving you the time of day.
Fact.
Words of wisdom from an elderly man
Don't try to fix a heart you Didn't
Break
Don't pay for debt you
Didn't
Take
Don't raise a kid you
Didn't
Make
Dating a single mom is like going to a party just as everybody is leaving and then washing their dishes
I'll add it's more like going to a party that you weren't invited to and nobody wanted you there, And in the end he still had to wash dishes
Hhahah e
😮😮😂
😂😂😂
Lol. It's like chewing another man's piece of gum. It's like doing time for a crime you didn't commit.
The fact that they can’t comprehend the difference between a single mom and a single dad is reason she has two kids from 2 different dads, delusional.
Fact. She'll have another one soon enough. That lady leaves a trail of destruction in her path.
Delusional 🙌🏻
My thoughts exactly as I was watching this.
_AND_ a pain in the ass spoiled dog she can't control!!
plus she cant even take care of her dog for a pre set conference call lololol
I am 57 and speaking from years of experience, and yes, I have dated single mothers in the past. Dating single mothers is like going to Prison for a crime that you didn't commit, You will never be "Number one" in their life, not worth it, Guys just don't do it!
thanks bro I will follow your advice, I think the same
Even if you marry a childless woman and have your own kids with her you won't be "Number one".
Going to prison for a crime you didn't commit? Lmao😂😂😂. Perfect description
Dated a widowed single mother for years and can confirm from my own experience.
How did you not learn after the first time?
Men's arguments : statistics and logic.
Women: I feel like ...
Notice how she never mentions her children because Mommy is so clearly more important than the kids nowadays
I FEEL LIKE ...whatever i want is what i should get whenever i want it
Men: this is why you have 2 baby daddies and why any man would be INSANE to put up with it
they HATE generalities
@OP that's because their goal is not to reach an understanding of right or wrong, or true or false. Their goal is to gain ADVANTAGE.
and so they will say any combination of words as long as the outcome is: they have an advantage.
So they will use Shaming, Morality, Philosophy, and even Logic, if it serves their goal of gaining ADVANTAGE .
@@JZan-ug3eyspot on. They personify narcissistic traits all over
As a man I literally won’t even date or sleep with a single mother. I don’t want to risk both accidentally getting her pregnant and being tied to that mess. Or B risk catching feelings. Fuck that.
I made that mistake, didn’t get her pregnant but got feelings for her. Was in a relationship for a year and she broke up with me and went back to her ex bf after day 1 of breakup telling me I didn’t give enough time and attention. Left me a mess
@@ThisIsIt42768 well hopefully you learned your lesson. Go work hard for a few years. Sacrifice and save 100k in s&p 500. Then go find a beautiful foreign wife of any variety and treat her super well! Have a good day my man!
i did it it was a disaster i left and on my way convinced her ex baby daddy to adopt i got lucky in the end and escaped any court payments good lesson learned
@@john-p1n6lYou left your child and convinced the Mothers ex BF to adopt your child? Am I following that correctly? 🤔
Why sleep with any of them then ??? It sounds like to me that you just are their for the sex. And I am a man saying that
The main difference Rich didn’t mention, is that when women say they don’t wanna date a single father the men are like ok cool your choice. When men say they don’t want to date single mothers the women freak out and try to gaslight them into doing so.
Don’t gaslight just go move silence
Exactly this
In some cases, the reason is ..because if the man has no experience with kids , then the mother ends up having to teach him along with the kids . Then y oh are looking at a whole other issue.
Men are not born nor taught at any age how to be a good father . Most learn on the job training, and like us all make plenty of mistakes. But for a single mother she has already gone through those mistakes and doesn’t want to repeat them again.
I love how you guys never really discuss these situations, when they make up a majority of the people.
I disagree, I was taught how to be a good father (until 19, he died)by my father. Also, from other men, fathers in the neighborhood. I always tried to be a good father, dad, accepting that I would make mistakes and should’ve done better. I had a wonderful wife, but after an awful divorce (thanks to you effing methheads out there) I received custody of our three minor children. 24 years later, we still have good relationships which I don’t take for granted but I’m very thankful for. Please don’t mistake being a “baby daddy“ a.k.a. effing idiot, for being a real man, father, dad.
Well he really should have stopped her in her tracks when she brought up the point about single fathers because that's not what this topic of conversation was about in the first place and he allowed her to deflect from that.
Don’t settle for single mommas. They should be with the loser that knocked them up. Do not be the fall guy for their mistake 😣
Don't raise someone else's mistake
The problem is that some single mommas are hot.and the simps are everywhere.
So if a woman screws over a man and leaves him with the kids, he's a "loser"? I bet you're a woman.
Not all single fathers are losers some were either forced out or chose not to be in a turbulent relationship 🎉
Half the time they don't know who that loser is.
I am a grandma age woman and I agree with you. The kids are extra people that come along with the single woman. As lovely as kids are, they really complicate a relationship. They are a huge amount of work.
Single mom - instant NO-FLY ZONE for me - no exceptions, no excuses, no hesitations: Not my Circus, Not my Monkeys - Definitely not my bills, not my responsibility. Not ever. Not once.
Facts and I don't care if she was married, widowed or whatever it doesn't matter raiding another man's kid is an automatic no
As regular as clockwork ...
She tells her kid(s) to treat you like cr*p then tells you how much easier life would be if you adopted her kids. IMMEDIATELY after the adoption ceremony, she serves you with DIVORCE PAPERS and you are stuck paying for HER brats!!!
😢😢😢😢
Circuses should not have animals in it. But I get the picture.
For real!
@@manlybaker3098that sounds like something that clearly should be illegal.
Being a single father of 3 kids, the single mothers just ran away from me. The normal women had no problem dating me. Some of them treated me as a hero, for raising Mr 3 kids after divorce.
You better off without those single moms bro…unnecessary baggage 🙄
The metric of attraction has always been different for single fathers. You are looked at as a provider wear as single mother has looked at as damage and used goods.
@@moveadvisor3580 it’s not different. There’s a reason why single childless women avoid single dads
@@Son-of-Kryptonsingle divorced dads have too much baggage too !
Yea, i’m a single dad and most single moms avoid me. Thank God 😂
Pairing up with a single mother is like volunteering for prison. But you'll get to hear---I DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOU! YOU'RE NOT MY DAD!
It works exactly the same the opposite way. Man’s kids could say EXACT SAME THINGS TO THEIR STEPMOM.
Psychiatrist even have done studies that find children in a single mother household are more likely to disobey and end up in jail
I wouldn't even use a parachute that has an 80% chance of working....
"John, we've been dating two months now, and it's been great." ...... "Yes, it has been great Melissa. You're a good woman." ...... "Okay, but now here's my son little billy." ...... "FUUUCK HIM!!! I'm outta here!!"
@@josephinetracy1485 Right same kinda thing. Not really though because
the man must work and make ends meet. Women don't really have to but
they SHOULD.
@@metalmike570 They don't have to work, huh?
@@josephinetracy1485 I guess it depends on the guy she's with. If he makes
six figures then .......... she'll have options to stop working hahahaha!
@@metalmike570 I think that you need to sit down alone with a cup or two of coffee, and think this all over again lol
San Francisco Bay Area mid-1980’s I went before “Family Court” three different times, at three different ages, pleading with the court to award custody to my dad. He was a dedicated Christian. Regular churchgoer. Single 5 years after my mom filed for divorce. Not dating in or near the home. My mom lived with her on/off boyfriend who smoked weed in front of us and left the coke scale on the dining room table. He got physically abusive with us numerous times (as elementary school kids) and we were exposed to nude adults running around the pickle barrel hot tub, drinking and taken to nude beaches. The court “awarded” custody to my mom on every single occasion. Thank God dad used his Tuesday nights to take us to Mervyn’s and buy us clothes because the child support that he paid promptly was immediately “contributed” to rent. Were it not for my dad I’d have gone to school with holes in my shoes. Several school years. FAMILY COURT WAS A SCAM 40 YEARS AGO. I shudder to imagine it today. And people ask why I’m 52 and MGTOW. Had to fight with everything in me to earn these 6 years clean and sober. Broken homes F kids up. They just do.
I know you've got just 5 likes but thank you for sharing. I really appreciate it!
Should be quote of the century "Broken homes F kids up. They just do". People don't want to hear that, even though it's true.
Peace be with you bro. You're a survivor of unfortunate circumstances 👆🏽😎
Thank you for sharing facts..so thankful u made it this far..stay strong..
Don't know what a mgtow is, never heard of it
Thanks Rich! These single moms prove why you don’t choose them! I couldn’t stand being on a date with them let alone risk my entire future with them!
Says a broke man. Im childless, I don't want kids.
Not having any authority over the child is a bullshit reason. Men only want to provide and provision for their own child their own DNA, Period. My time is valuable, my resources are valuable and I didn't work so hard in my life to raise another man's seed. Let alone the baby daddy drama and dealing with a woman banged and impregnated by other man.. is this even a joke? Rich is not speaking direct language to these women.
Also shows that they will always dodge accountability. This clip also proves that you cannot have a reasonable discussion with waman at all.
Strong wahmen 🤢🤮
I think the idea is that you are getting a ready made family. How does that hit you? I recall a particular day around the holidays when I was in a barbershop chair getting a haircut, it was a F barber, and I was hearing what she was doing with her kids during the holidays arts and crafts stuff. And I don’t like any talk at all. That was 10 yrs ago. Damn the effect - it still has since I’m not involved. Shet, it’s some powerful shet. Never doing that, a M only when I’m in the chair. Or cut my own F’in hair. Shet I stay away from it all - thank god I did, just saying, now 60 plus I said F it at about 38, crazy suicide. Others still attack me being single, it never ends. And I’ve seen close neighbor guys loving this way or living, better dead than that shet.
After this dreadful conversation , I will definitely stay away from single moms!!!!
Ha it took you this long to realize that
Hahahahaha
@@teresworrell7973better late than never I suppose?
you Only have to read the comments....And they all ring true...You have been warned.
I spent 20 years raising another man's child. It was a huge mistake and I would recommend against it.
So, it sounds like your ex was looking for a babysitter with domestic help and sexual services. I agree, I would never do that for the same exact reasons Rich had listed for single moms.
I'll tell you why it's different :
1- Financially you will be paying for her and her kids most if not everything. And even those so called " strong and successful" women will still expect you to pay . On the same point, if you wanna do something nice for her , the kids will be involved which will increase your financial burden . As a single father however, she isn't gonna pay shit for those kids no matter how successful she is .
2- in Most of custody agreements , the mother is the primary custodian , getting her kids most of the time, meaning you will have her kids most of the week , which means less intimate time and again, more financial burden. Single fathers have the kids maybe on weekends at best in most cases,.
3- Most women's sexual drive tapers off after having kids. She will flood you with sex in the beginning, but that will disappear pretty quickly once she got you hooked. Men's sexual drive in most cases is gonna be the same whether they're single fathers or not.
4- Nothing more humiliating for a guy than to raise some other man's seed, and he can't discipline them in most of the cases . Any showing of authority will get you the "you're not my dad you can't tell me what to do" , or " you can't do that to my kids" . While single mother can get the "you're not my mom" , she is not the primary authoritative figure. And to get back o point number 2 , most guys will get 2-3 days/week at best , which mean less time to have kid drama.
5- If you ask most men, the best period they had with their women is before having kids. That's because her attention was on you . After having kids , Most of the attention will go to her kids. So you skip the best time and go right to the shitty part. A single dad will have his attention on his kids, but he will always gives his attention to his woman as well. Men and women give and receive attention differently. Point number 2 and 3 proves this point as well.
6- Women decline in value as she ages because a woman's value is mostly dependent on her beauty. Men become more valuable as they age if they worked in themselves.
7- The woman's most valuable asset is her womb , and she gave it to another man . Women are more emotional than men, and she will always have some form of attachment feeling to the baby daddy. Men has that with the baby mama , but trust me , that love disappears every time you have to fork that child support and alimony .
8- A single mother if she's older will not give you kids if you want your own lineage. A single father can have kids at any age.
9- Lastly , a man can get stuck paying child support for her kids as we all know >90% of child support goes to the women , so it's not the same the other way around.
Are there exceptions to that rule , sure , the 1 women out of the 10000. A man with value doesn't have the time to look for that unicorn. Even a man with kids should not get with a single mom. If you're a man with no kids and getting with a single mom , I don't care what's your excuse , you are a low value man with no options. No single man with no kids and even little value would take that deal. Let's call a spade a spade and cut the delusion .
Some women pay child support to men and some single fathers date single mothers and those relationships never workout
God damn. Well done 👏🏻
Thank you for taking the time to write this out so clearly and concisely. I get a headache watching Rich talk with women who argue just for argument’s sake, and avoid any kind of accountability.
Excellent post. Extremely on point with everything said. These panel discussions trying to explain the obvious to women are pointless.
Single moms are for pdg treatment only.🤣
Blond woman with two kids from two marriages, let's break this down.
1. Two failed relationships
2. Two exes
3. Two more mouths to feed
4. One or two extra bedrooms
5. High chance that at one point she will leave (see #1), and your relationship with those kids will br terminated
6. If domestic chores are divided your workload increases
7. Most times her body is trashed or at least not what it was before kids
8. You will be #3 priority
9. Questionable decision making abilities
10. More than likely quite a bit of emotional damage (also see #1)
11. At any point her child support could decrease or end, guess who will make up the difference
12. If you marry her she will monkey branch if given the opportunity (see #1 again), enter 50% loss of assets
Where is the up side? At least she didnt rate herself a 10.
That blonde clearly looking for some help you can see the struggle and stress of doing it by herself is draining her.
The upside is they usually just wanna bang because they're getting money from the fathers of the children. So once in a while you pay for a babysitter for her for the night.
Don’t worry guys, chad will step in to give her the coup de grace 🤣
Yep you nailed it
Your list is speculation though, another possibility is -
What if she had the first one at 17, and there was no marriage.
And then the second one was planned but something was wrong in the marriage and
she got divorced?
Back in the day I dated a single mom. Was set up by her aunt that I worked with. Kid was just a baby at that time. ended up liking the mom and thought maybe we might have future together. Few months in she ended it because she was still in love with the baby daddy. Where was the babies daddy? He was in jail doing 7 years for almost beating her to death. She was literally still in love with a man that beat her so bad she spent week in the hospital. That was the last single mother I ever dated. Ended up marrying a girl overseas best decision I ever made.
Some women like to be abused. It is so deranged.
Many women are insane.
not surprised to hear this, some women pick horrible men and won't let them go no matter what
Good that you learnt your lessons
You got a bad apple bro. Sorry to hear. Dont let one bad experience keep you down bro.
I would NEVER EVEN CONSIDER dating a woman that had 2 children from 2 different men etc . . .
I moved in with a single mother and 2 kids in 1993. I spent 7 years caring for the children ( 3 & 4 yrs old). I treated them as if they were my own. Supporting them all financially and emotionally. Sports, outings, camping, did it all like a normal family. No drinking, smoking or drugs. A perfect home environment. Then she decided that she had a better offer from a man younger than her, and I was unceremoniously shown the door. Never to see the children again. Which compounded the break up for me emotionally. I became an MGTOW for the next 20 yrs, long before the term ever existed, buying 2 labrador puppies instead. It was the best decision I ever made. I wish the internet and YT existed back then.
Bad decision next time don’t do it again bad move
@@mrs.camillewarrenempress3115 Yes Mom!
The fact that the children didn't try to contact you at some point, especially when older says a lot about them and the mother. None of them had formed any type of attachment to you or experiences with you.
I think it was President Harry S Truman who said about Washington, "If you want a friend get a dog." No one is as faithful as a dog except two dogs.
@@robertcuminale1212 The reality is that the children could have been told I wanted nothing to do with them, who would know? It was a tough learning experience. As I said above, I took a leaf out of Truman's book, bought myself two labradors, and never looked back. Actually it was Mickey Dolenz from the Monkee's who gave me the inspiration. Listen to his song 'I'm going to buy me a dog'.
@@mrs.camillewarrenempress3115 And share the story.
Gillian is one of those annoying modern women who claims “equality” while also expecting privilege
And overweight. She has basically nothing to offer a man.
Equality is to them a feeling that "when it comes to everything, I'm at least as good as you are".
She also probably pushed out a lot of footballs and now wants to act like her value hasn't dropped in the slightest.
@@The_Kirk_Lazarus And they want a contract like any pro footballer does.
you wouldnt touch it with a 10foot pole.
I agree, stay clear of single women with a kid. At age 22 I started dating a woman with a 3 year old child who was seeing her father weekly but he wasn't paying a dime in support, I put an end to the visits, he took it to court and was forced to pay child support, which is all I wanted so I wasn't bearing the load of caring for his kid, 7 years later after moving the family to a different state she left, took the kid, with not even a thank you for helping to raise a kid that wasn't my own. Stay away is my advice.
Oof
In their mind they have no reason to thank you. She and her kid deserved it, and her kid was entitled to it as a condition of dating her. Thanks for sharing your experience and warning.
Brutal.
You got played my man. Take it as a lesson learned.
@@PlatinumHustle - For 7 years? No, she just wasn't interested anymore. That happens all the time.
I dated a single mother with Borderline Personality Disorder. I lived to tell the tale.
Not many do. If you had married her, you'd be in a box.
🤣😂...................fk..is that all....let Me tell you....ohhhh never mind.....im over it....aaand live happily ever after...on my own.
2 more negatives(from experience):
1. A single Mom, when she's finally able to see you, will not want to make you dinner, etc because she will be exhausted being a single Mom, as she should be. She will want YOU to do all the planning, take HER on special dates, fancy dinners, and treat HER like a queen but she will not have the energy to reciprocate and treat you like a King. It's a great deal. Then, you can wait 2 weekends, if you're lucky, to do it all over again unless...(see #2)
2. She will likely have other commitments on one of those "free" weekends, like a friend's baby shower, birthday, girls trip, etc etc where she will, shockingly, have all this energy she didn't have when you finally got to see her.
So, you maybe get to see her one weekend per month and you better plan something fun for HER.
I just matched with a single mom and talked to her one day, and all this became apparent. She has a photo of her mountain biking on her profile. I'm a mountain biker, so I'm thinking sweet, a shared interest. Then in talking she says she didn't go for a single ride all year! Next thing, she likes to travel, as do I. Then says a trip for next year is "up in the air" because of other things going on. I stopped texting her, lol.
@@huntstyle That's the irony. They shouldn't have time to do things, like mountain biking, skiing, etc because being a Mom is the most important job in the world. Yet, they want to pretend they do these things to get a boyfriend. Maybe, just maybe, if they have 50/50 custody, they could indulge in these hobbies more often but I haven't seen it.
@@gmoneymac23 True. About the only time there's a chance is when the kid or kids are older and self-sufficient, and probably don't want to hang out with their mom anyway.
And if you ever do get to go over and spend the night, her kid always sleeps in bed with her.
Yea fuck that
Rich, what you failed to state here, is that those kids will never consider you their "real father" if their biological wants back in. Once he does, they will drop the stepdad like a rock, its happened to me more than once, and ive finally learned my lesson. Not correcting someone elses mistakes!
Absolutely! All kids will prefer their real dad. I saw a spiel from a single mama with three different baby daddies and said that it’s her partner’s responsibility to sort out teh baby daddies. Like three men and three children to one.
It’s in a persons nature to see their biological father as their real dad even if he did nothing ever for them. Only in rare cases where the biological dad never showed up do kids ever end up viewing step dad as their real dad. What real man would want to invest 10-20 years raising a kid only for that kid to not appreciate them.
Never date a single mother. That kid always started fights between us, but never took the blame. Then with all the time, money, effort in raising the child, one day he says to you, "You're not my father". That day will come.
Keep cordial with them my mom is like this right now but she expect me to clean home etc without independence
I dated a single mother and the son was such a shithead omg it was terrible.
@@Saskidan that why you don’t hold on
Literally had one attempt to kill me over taking away video games for usung my credit card online and his mother took his side. That having a kid playing 🎮 was worth more than my life to her. 💀💀💀
Gillian looks like she's bankrupted quite a few men in her life. Her snarky attitude is a red flag.
Jordan is a perfect example of zero accountability after making the same poor choices multiple times.
@adh8734They all think they're the exception to the rule but more often than not they're the very case proving the rule itself.
Jordan is lucky if she’s a 4.
Hooking up with her is like playing Russian roulette with every cylinder loaded.
She seems like the dumbest of the 4 women but talks the most. Rich or Moff will clearly answer her question, then she'll say "but I don't understand why [exact same question that was just asked and answered]".
Lying trick saying she never rated herself
"The facts don't align with my feelings so the facts must be wrong."
So true
Exactly.
Did ANY of those gals make any sense?
Try saying that to the next surgeon who must cut you open to save your life... Great comment!
If she wouldn’t date you in her prime, don’t save her in her decline.
We don't want to support single momas all their life - whileas some other guy had his saved game.
She's not yours it's just your turn
@@jgrullon32 I prefer she stays far away from me.
Right
This phrase is so *DEAD* on right.
One thing from my personal experience is that I was raised by my grandparents. Why? My stepfather was a traditionalist who had an issue with me not being his child. So, my grandparents stepped in to take custodialship over me so they were comfortable I would not be abused. Secondly, I remember my ex-wife asking me if I had any children of my own with any of my past relationships. She basically informed me that she would have an issue if my attention was focused between her, her family, and any children I had. So I see this argument from a double point of view. But I feel if I had any children, she would not help me. Whereas she expected me to provide support for her children and grandchildren.
I’ve noticed a lot of comments are about “me,me,me” if she is willing to help you out with your kids then you should help her out. It should be mutual- single mom of 2 (same dad) this is why I don’t date and I keep to myself. Everyone wants treat me a type of way just bc he got cold feet. I’m always the everyone’s fuck up that they want back and begging to take back after the damage is way to far gone. All I get out of guys is me taking care of them and they walk when my cup is dry. I just want someone to pour into me so I can pour right back into them. I want that step mom moment if it’s there bc all kids should be loved. It would be nice to find someone who would treat my kids the way I treat their kids but I’m told I do too much. I was making sure his kids had shampoo and a dresser and a bed at my house and that was too much for his kids bc they bring their stuff from their moms house. Shouldn’t I welcome his kids here? They should want to be here right? Almost all the comments on this video are so selfish. I can’t even date and find someone decent bc everyone is like this. I’m so sorry your step dad was like this. Being a single mom was not on me, he chicken out because of his own issues. He now apologizes to me but another woman is living the life he promised me
More Facts.Mine drove a wedge with my kids.....behind my back.....Flat out told them they were not taking me away from hers.Didnt hear from them for years...couldnt quite figure it out.Then one day........
I was granted custody in my divorce. I was 42 years old, and had custody of a six year old daughter. And the women that I dated never did completely take on my daughter as their own. I always felt that if I had got remarried that I would have an evil step mom in my house.
stay single dont bring any stragglers home
Are you saying that you allowed these women to interact with your six-year-old daughter - even before wedding vows? You allowed your six-year-old daughter to possibly get emotionally involved with these (possibly) fly-by-night girlfriends? You allowed your daughter to risk being emotionally damaged by the subsequent separation?
i raised my daughter on my own .i never brought anyone home ever @@alexmuenster2102
Sounds more like you were picking the wrongs ones then introducing them to your daughter way to soon, and then complaining about who you picked . Accountability dude.. you were the picker .
Understand.
Must be a great feeling knowing you come last, after her kid(s), her parents and her dog.
"knowing you come last, after her kid(s), her parents and her dog." Get in good with the dog and you're all set. 2nd grade I had a friend who was thin as a rail and ate dog food the dry kibbles and dog bones. I didn't believe him until we went into a grocery store. He punched a bag of dogfood and grabbed a handful, then got some dog bones and started chowing on those too. Told me to try it. Nope. His father had remarried and he was from the first marriage. I always took it that that's what he did to survive. Super wealthy family btw. Bad stepmom imo. Hope he made it.
@@drewodessa2483 When I was like 6 years old, the girl living next to my grandma's house was eating dog-food as well. They were pretty poor I think. When eating cereal (more accurately: müsli), she ate it with water and I was like wtf no you eat it with milk. Her father was probably an alcoholic, since this girl took me out to a bar to hang out with her, she wanted me to be her date, because grown ups had stuff like that too - or something. She was a really really fun girl, and I missed her a lot when she moved out.
And probably the kid(s) dad(s)
@@kabouterwesley83
Yo, fellow Jeroom fan
Even if you are the first one to marry her, and she's only got your kids, I know most guys feel the wife cares more about the damn dog than him.
Another issue for marrying a single mom is that the man can forced in a divorce to pay for child support for kids that are not his.
Nightmare!!!!
Which is insane !
@@marcp.1752
I agree but it is still happening. I guess the courts look for the person with the deepest pockets. Reminds me of ambulance chasing lawyers. Lol Guys who are actually working and making money become targets to more than just women wanting a Beta provider. Guys have actually self deleted because of this stuff.
Lol marrying
She's a nightmare that just can't get over herself you got to love that combination
As usual these women are in complete denial regarding anything negative about them. I have tried to date single moms and it is a HUGE pain in the ass, and I will never do that again.
It is never functional to debate with someone who is stuck in the belief of their feelings rather than the probability of facts.
which is the reason the creatures shouldn't have a say in politics.
*repeal the 19th*
You can’t have a rational discussion with women who still think they are prize. They will never accept that bringing children from another man into their new relationship introduces drama that most men don’t want to deal with. They don’t care how most men really feel about it, only how THEY feel about it.
Facts
I was a single dad of my 2 biological Amerasian children for nearly 10 years, and raised my daughter and son successfully with zero assistance/ support from their mother. It was only after the hard work was done, and both kids were successful adults, that she began to desire contact with her own kids. There were virtually no support systems in place for a single dad (Veteran) anywhere to be had, but we (me and the kids) damn sure did it.
You are a good man n father, bravo 🐨
Once upon a time, a man asked a woman to marry him. She said no. From then on, he ate what he wanted when he wanted, he drank what he wanted when he wanted, and he did what he wanted when he wanted, and he lived happily ever after. The end.
😂😂
😃
Now that's a fairy tale ending!
Facts.
When I was 14 in 1981 my parents divorced, sold the dairy farm and my dad quickly remarried about 3 months later, moving from Minnesota to Victoria Australia. Besides 2 months on his farm in a trip to Australia in 1985 I had very little contact with him between 1981 and 1999 when I got email. A huge vacuum was left in my life as my mom had lots of baggage from her rough childhood and no guys had anything more than a short interest in my mom and she never remarried. I found myself wandering around Fleet Farm and other large shopping places like I was lost. Looking back at that time I was looking for a father. One of my Doctors got to know me well enough that he figured out that my life was lacking positive encouraging role models. One of my brothers told me that my dad regretted leaving me without a father figure in my life. But my father followed his heart marrying a much younger woman from Australia.
Too bad he didn't fight for custody to have you? But, then you would have missed your
mom the same way if had won.
@@metalmike570 I was given the choice of living with my mom or moving to Australia and living with my dad and his new young wife. I was undecided until one of my brothers suggested my mom as the slightly better of two bad choices. My dad was bipolar with an explosive temper and his wife was very very driven and feisty which I didn’t need with the ptsd I had since age 5, 3 very big traumas from age 5 to age 8.
@@MustangsTrainsMowers Well in the end you're normal, and lived this far and
seem grounded. Do you consider yourself successful?
Also it seems like a choice that a kid shouldn't have to make at all. You shouldn't
frustrate yourself about it now. I guess that the thing is when a boy is about 11 he should see his father a lot because it will influence who he is, and can learn guy skillsets.
Just my opinion but going into puberty yeah seems right to seek out your father.
It's all behind you now anyway, did you go to Austrailia at all?
@@metalmike570
Successful no, had Lyme since about 1983, diagnosed in 2013. Australia yes 4 months 1985, half of them with my dad. 13 days in 1999 and 7 weeks of an 8 week trip in fall of 2002. He passed January 2023. I never was able to really connect with him.
@@metalmike570
At age 14 when my parents were divorcing I decided I was going to have a manufacturing business. I’m very mechanical, intelligent and creative but Lyme pretty much derailed my plans. In 2017 I was so sick I thought I had 2-3 years to live.
This zoom call is actual proof you shouldn't date single moms. The fact they can't even agree there are differences when he brings one up, is crazy.
You shouldn’t date Delusional single moms it’s a difference
Those ladies are poison for any man. They have the power to destroy many lives especially their children.
That's more a female thing, not specific to single mothers😅
Lmao not to mention that annoying ass dog barking and she wouldn’t put it up
Oh, they will agree there are differences, but when he brings them up, they just say, "Well, casting that aside..."
EXCUSE ME? The new dad doesn't just get to CAST those issues aside. He's STUCK WITH THEM.
My favorite was they just didn't get what Rich was saying about passing the footballs through their vagina. They weren't connecting the dots.
THAT MEANS YOUR PUSSY IS BLOWN OUT. SEX WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD!
All they got from it was that yes, men and women are different, women can give birth.
I’ve had many women tell me they would not date a single dad. There are good and logical reasons for this. I did not blame them a bit.
I won't date a single dad. His bullshit kids are not my problem. 👿
I just told friend to move in silence don’t explain her business to the world I am good example as far us woman do make that mistake branching off without no real reason
@@mrs.camillewarrenempress3115 WHA'?
@@melvynobrien6193 my friend is a single mom I broke the friendship off from a woman speaking to you , she brought too much baggage toward my family but taking accountability b
Getting with a single mom is a like putting gas in a car another man already wrecked.
Dating a single mother is putting diesel gas in a regular gas car
A woman is not a car... a single use object... there are no men and women, there are people, all different, all with different situations. Each person deserves a second chance..
💯💯💯
Maybe you could get the car to run but it’ll never be like new, it’s damaged goods 😂
@@aal5704 Have you ever heard of hyperbole 😂😂😂
I love how in every video, every woman, has to be course corrected with in 5 words during every answer to every question asked, every time.
Once, I Went On A Date With A Single Mom. 30 Minutes In, I Knew I'd Be The 4th Or 5th Priority For Her.
I Never Saw Her Again.
Bullet Dodged.
💯 %
I was dealing with the same situation but in fact just weird all together
I dated a couple of single moms. I was never on the Priority List but expected to be the financial safety net/pay for everything. Two learning experiences for me.
@@racebannon96I am dealing with this right now from a woman perspective whom I am just friend with
@@mrs.camillewarrenempress3115 The only way to win is not to play. It will not get better.
A high value man needs a single mom, like a fish needs a bicycle
A high value man doesn't need dating advice in the first place.
I like your thumbnail, which Bentley is that?
@@Sharkbar_ Thanks! It’s a 2021 Bentayga
The laugh I laughed... 😅
The funny thing is I think a lot of these women understand that ,but they refuse to accept it because that would be accountability for the bad decisions in life, such a selecting the bad boy to have a kid.
with
I am the example that Rich is describing. 35 years ago I was not around to get his advice or my life would be different. I married a single mom, who had two kids and two different men. I loved her and them, so it was not a big problem. I essentially raised her kids as my own. One father wanted nothing to do with his offspring and the other did with his and has some influence on the child growing up.
I had another two children with my wife then and had a great family. Now after 35 years she left me. And her two children? Now both want nothing to do with me after I raised them, gave them a good clean home, kept them well fed, provided a good Christian influence, showed them a good work ethic, kept them safe, participated at all school events (band, tennis, swimming, etc.), took them to ALL their hobbies and extra-curricular activities, took them to fun places like Disney World, theme parks, camping and much more.
NOW they have thrown me away like yesterday's garbage.
So, YES men, don't date women with their own children expecting those children to accept you as their father and love you when you get older... no matter how much love and attention you give to them... after all... they aren't yours. So, if you choose to marry a single mother, chances are that it won't end well for you.
sorry this happened to you.
I can agree with all of this. The mother of my 2 children. She was a single mom, her daughter was 1 at the time. She's now 17. Her mother and I haven't been together since she was 15. I was there for everything. Her biological dad didn't really put much into being a father. But that didn't matter. Her daughter pretty much doesn't really have much to do with me anymore now that her and mother aren't together anymore.
you're a superhero in my book. A true role model for men. You deserved far better....
Thank you @@henryjoshual1848 I'm comfortable with raising 4 kids into productive citizens. I did my "job" as a man. My two kids love me, but hers do not. I guess "blood" really is the most relevant factor.
"I had another two children with my wife then and had a great family."
So a family of 6.
"Now after 35 years she left me. And her two children? Now both want nothing to do with me"
So they're now in their 40s and want nothing to do with you. I think that might be due to reasons other than the divorce.
Also what happened to the 2 biological children you had.
Also how old was your wife when she divorced you? 60?
"don't date women with their own children expecting those children to accept you as their father"
They did for 35 years.
Guarantee all these women would date a single father if he looked a certain way.
Also if he was making 6 figures
Nope, as they said looks has mostly little to do with it, it's about status and monetary potential.
Sounds harsh but that is how the "Majority" of women judge men.
@@ReceptiveKing93 Yeah deep pockets has to be a factor.
I'm grateful to still be single, never married and no kids at age 36. 🔥👌🏻 top notch content Rich ! .
Keep it this way my dude🍻
41 single and no kids here
same.
Well Done Brother!
37 an same
Having one kid might have been a mistake, 2 is not.
FACTS.
What if they're twins?😂
What if she had the first one at 17, and there was no marriage.
And then the second one was planned but something was wrong in the marriage and
she got divorced?
Yep, yet single not so yummy mummies will insist they're a victim 😂
@@metalmike570she's a red flag
Men usually look for love and to build a family, women look for someone to pay for everything. That's literally the biggest difference between the 2 genders when it comes to relationships.
Thank you!
true said. that's why guys are not doing the same mistake which these single mom's ex husband did.
EXACTLY.
Men rush to get married to find a babysitter
I guess it was the same all the back to the cave man days.
I married a single mum, happily took on 3 great children. Best decision i ever made. Married for 14 years until covid to my wonderful wife. Choose the right person when you marry.. doesnt matter if they have kids or not
Watched a friend date a single mom for years, then she decided to leave and he never saw the children he had formed a deep bond with again. The little girl was in diapers , he's her daddy fir six years now he's gone.
It was very bad for him and the children.
Guy was a fool hopefully not today
That’s the problem
women never care about hurting the kids
That is what I fear if I found a single mother with children
good luck you are just seen as a wallet, you have no authority yet all the responsibility for her kids...her kids will always come before you..@@kjaergaard12345
When Rich said "is there one Disney story with an evil step father" and Jordan blurted out "because it's not fantasy it's real life." That told me everything I needed to know about her.
I watch true crime videos on a regular basis. There are too many stories with an evil stepfather.
Him as well. Ita was an inane comparison.
This is dumb. Step dads mistreat step kids and rape them and beat them all the time. Sexual abuse goes up by the thousands when being raised by step dads . Just because children’s fairytales don’t cover this ugly truth doesn’t make it not true . This was super illogical
@@gatanegra8815 Same. I wondered why he bought up the point about the evil stepmother in fantasy fiction, it's a very weak point.
@@gatanegra8815 He's not saying there's no evil stepfather. There are loads of movies about that but when it comes to wish-fulfillment stories, you generally don't see evil stepfathers that often. If it implied that there is, they're completely absent in the story.
"I want someone who is confident, successful and a great communicator."
Why would I exhaust myself to be those things for a single mother?
High quality guys in her age bracket, are all dating women in their 20s that worship them and have no baggage.
I had to laugh when she said that😂
She wanted someone equal. In other words, she thinks she is confident, successful and a great communicator.
@@seriouscat2231 If she wants her equal, then she can look for a guy who has those qualities and is a single parent, also. Otherwise, the single, childless men who have those qualities are not likely interested in her.
@@bambooforrests, the kids were not the point. The point was that she probably, nah make that obviously, does not have those qualities. She just ignores the kids and goes straight to the prince charming stuff, as if she now had a second try to land one.
I had FOUR children, 6-2yrs old when my husband married me. He has always treated my children as his own, and I allowed him to also discipline them. Then my husband and myself had FIVE more children together. We are a big, happy family with nine children and nine grandchildren! We will be married 38yrs this upcoming October. AND, no way is my husband a simp either lol! I’m blessed ❤
Glad it worked out for you and your family. Very often, it doesn't.
There are always exceptions, but they’re rare.
So? I know people that have won the lottery and became multi-millionaires. Doesn't mean I am going to encourage people to blow money on a ticket, let alone base their retirement plan on such a ridiculously low percentage chance of success.
We are trying to WAKE WOMEN UP TO REALITY, so they don't keep making these insane choices that set them up for failure down the road when there is NOTHING they can do to fix it.
For THE vast majority of women, walking around with someone else's children means their options for men, drop dramatically, even IF they had realistic expectations, which most don't.
So bringing up the one in a 100,000 exception is NOT helping them or their delusions.
It's great that your husband was willing to step in and save the day, but it COST HIM, A LOT. He missed out on what you gave to the guy no longer in your life but got all the responsibility and hard work that went with it. Now I have no idea why you were in that situation. Obviously if your first husband died in battle, work or a sickness or accident, that's clearly not your fault, but doesn't change what your current husband had to deal with.
Now if your profile pic is anywhere near recent, then 38 years ago, I am sure you were an absolute smoke show. So if you had a great personality, brought peace and comfort to his life and not contentious strife, then I am sure he did the math and figured, it was worth taking on the responsibility to get such a rare gem. But that's the point. You were a RARE Gem. Most of these women aren't, so they have zero chance of hitting those lottery numbers. Also, 40 years ago, most women had a VERY different mindset, than they do today.
Anomaly
@@cryptojihadi265 what mindset did they have
Great conversation, it’s important for women to understand the long term consequences of being ‘easy’
There's easy and ... NOT easy.
We don't want to deal with other men's cast offs. The single woman with multiple kids by multiple fathers have already demonstrated a propensity for making bad choices and a lack of discernment. Many of them want the new man to clean up their mess.
I really hope all kids are Caucasian. Imagine one lil Jabari and one Tyrone
Multiple fathers two kids not only yells 304 and she can't even plan her own outcomes. How could you expect her to help and be a partner with household maintenance and financial future planning. She obviously has no impulse control and no ability for delayed gratification. Her kids would be the exact same.
When I was in my 20s I met a lady who was pregnant, we got engaged, and she moved in with me. I became the legal guardian of her son. Everything was fine until the child was born. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. Taking on someone else’s children, and expecting people to treat you as the father, is a pipe dream!!
she never will see you as daddy.
i cannot believe you did this.. wow. that is on you 100%
Wtf was wrong with you to make that decision??
@@amazinggrace313well maybe he was actually in love with the woman, no matter her circumstances
@@gregorylyon1004 there isn’t a vagina in America worth that
I am a single father basically. I have my son half time. I have a house, financially secure, put together well. Dating has been the WORST at 40. It’s a mine field.
wait till you turn 50 brother.It doesnt get any better.
They just don’t get it.
GO OVERSEAS
@dmystify1381 GO OVERSEAS
I feel you 😂
Take it from a guy who is currently in the situation, dont do it. I always stayed away from single mothers but i just had to have this woman and decided to try it. She moved in with me due to a circumstance. Of course her daughter came with her. It had been hell sometimes for the last 3 years. I jave the responsibility of provide a roof over her child's head and everything that comes with ut. The drama with her ex. Its too much and not worth it. I have a daughter from marriage who i see everyday and have 3 days a week. Her and her daughter is jealous of my relationship with my daughter. I explained to her that my daughter is my responsibility, her daughter is not. I feel like a visitor in my own home. Fellas please stay away from single mothers. My sister is a single mother and i would tell any guy she met to leave it be.
bro wtf , LEAVE , if you can vocalize this then you know there's an issue,
If married, it's a trap ime. The eventually break up the custody arrangements and child support was brutal, as will be the divorce, depending on the state.😢
A friend of mine dated a single mother within a year he moved in with her, she used him like an ATM and kept pressurising him into having a baby with her, the baby trap some men fall in to, eventually his money ran out and she fell out of love with him and he had to go. just makes me think how many other men did she do this to.
Yeah... My last single mum girlfriend tried that tactic on me... Very open and willing to getting pregnant! I dated her for 2.5 years and never once climaxed out of fear she would use my own seed against me!!!
Nobody ever says when I grow up I want to be an ATM!!!!
😠😆
As a single mother I swerved single dads, it’s more than I was willing to take on (the ex, working between two households, compromised resources), and I completely understood and respected men who didn’t want to get involved with me because of my kids. Everyone has the right to set those limits for themselves.
Until society guilt trips you for it
Best comment on this most ridiculous video and thread. Why. Opinions versus so much data out there that not a single member of this panel mentioned about being a single-parent...You nailed it. You accept your time schedule, tasks and even social judgements, +++ much more to conclude what direction works for you to take...Best wishes in life going forward👍
It is certainly true that step-mothers get treated poorly by the guy's kids. You did the right thing....
My stepfather was the best father I ever had. I'm grateful to my mother for introducing him into our lives.
Single dads are the preselected. Men win the game by attaining paternity, not sxx. And single moms often have no paternity to give. And if they do, and the man stays, the cost is double or tripple. Single mom means proof of not being able to keep a man, despite the staggering cost for him to leave. If she left, there is a loyalty issue that will also affect the new man. Two baby daddies means a second dude understood this, took the last paternity and ran. Because lower opportunity cost than raising both. There are species where the female eat the male after mating... that male is still the winner. Even at the cost of his life he would have won. You let a man go, and he reproduces with another woman, that cuts the resources for your kids in half. The hotter the dude the more likely that is. Every guy that you date after divorce, you or your kids are unlikely to inherit anything from. And you will probably have destroyed the father enough that there won't me much there either. You are getting owned through sheer ignorance of the dynamic and consequences. If you don't want to breed the bottom half of the men, then by definition you need to prevent other women from breeding your baby daddy. There are vastly more women than top tier men, so losing one is a loss for you. There is no way around it. You already compromised your resources, and any man without kids is a higher flight risk. More likely just there for sxx, more likely grab an opportunity to attain paternity elsewhere. The ex, yes but your ex is a bigger issue for him than she is for you. The household issue is temporary, you are looking for a man for the period after kids. The kids round you already lost.
Jordan has a dog also. A good friend of mine married a woman with a child and 8 years in she actually told him, " I would get rid of you before I got rid of my dog." Like the husband was something to 'get rid of'. It eventually happened.
don't date anyone with kids if you don't want to complicate your life. Whether that's a single man or single woman with kids .
The dog barking was kevin samuels spirit chiming in
It would of been hilarious if the dog said you can't make this shit up! Then went back to licking his balls!
K.S. Rest in power😂😁👍
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Facts!!! 😂❤
I know two women who were stepmothers. They did not love their stepkids. They treated the steps differently than their biological kids, and it was obvious to anyone who paid attention yet they had no idea they were doing so.
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I truly think it’s biological. We as humans have a bond with our children and parents that’s stronger than word can describe.
@@LorenaCruzCarinono thats bs. biology is biology. I dont buy that women can love step children like their own just because they want the man. Its just not natural. This sounds like some feel good bs.
you yourself said that single fathers are targeted by women who seek to use them and not love, them, so even allowing your claim, they would not love the children cause they would not love him.
and single fathers are not deadbeats. they are good people who have been taken advantage of by the kids mother. for a man to be a deadbeat, he needs to have left the mother without her doing anything wrong. almost all breakups are initiated by women, so that excludes almost all single dads from being able to be deadbeats, since the breakup was the woman choice not his.
deadbeat dads are a myth. the only people I know who have these kinds of fathers always involved a mother picking obviously unstable men because the other ones were "boring", so its also the womens faults.
99.99% the broken family is the womans fault. I have never seen or heard of a stable man who wanted to date for family leave a woman who did not mistreat him in some way, but the opposite I have seen and heard of often.
@70two41five Correct, the biological component is Oxytocin the bonding hormone that women create when having children. Biological dads do get it initially too in the infant stages, but it's much less than the amount of oxytocin the mother receives. And this hormone Oxytocin is responsible for having a relationship with a partner, so when the Child is instead bonded to the mother, the relationship between partners will be dull.
I was 22 and in the German Army, I was together with my girlfriend but we have broke up after 2 years, maybe because I was allways abroad (in the Kosovo)... 20 years later I met her again, she had 3 children from 3 different guys and I was so foolish to start a realasionship with her for 1and half year... It cost me about 20 thousend Euros and a fals acusation of beating her (I was release by the court for free). All I can say: singel moms are more dangerus than those enemys which I was fighting in 4 years Bundeswehr duty...
Amen brother
I was involved with a single mom briefly. The way she always took her son's position vs mine. Even when I was attempting to set boundaries for his good, she often took any authority away from me. Thode & other reasons made it a short relationship, thank God.
Her son described the mother with this phrase "my moms my dad". That explained everything about how he viewed me!
You were their free butler sent by God.
Wait for the right woman to come into to your life because it will be better rather wasting your time on someone whom don’t share similar goals interests c
@@LorenaCruzCarino that not going to take you seriously nowdays this is happening to my mother since she been a single parent since 20 years after my father got divorced not every man is going to take a single mother seriously especially if she doesn’t have no long term goals set for herself or even purpose
NEVER date Single Mums!!
Plain and simple! ✌️
@CalinGilea some don't want to until kids are adults.
Yep
Moms, not mums
@@rvh1999Mums is the British English spelling of Moms. That's how it's spelled in countries like UK, Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. It is therefore also correct.
I was raised in a single mother household. In short it’s about her, her, her. Everyone else exists to support her.
Yep! Exactly
that's just ♀ nature in general.
I have observed the same.
I do not date women with children. It's to much going on with being responsible for someone else's kid. It's not something I want to deal with.
Rich is badass : Tells these women I'm in great shape, loaded, and I have options. The look on their faces was priceless. Total G!
I wish all this and UA-cam was around in the 80's when I was young. I would have been much more confident, damn.
@@metalmike570
That makes two of us.
If youre a single mom, look for a single dad, you are a balanced match.
You will always put your children before him, he will always put his children before you.
You are matched and balanced.
You're welcome.
haha..
makes sense this one. 😅
Which is the problem with society. Putting kids above family.
@@cur244 Good point. Ultimately the goal should be to form a stable family. Good for the kids and the parents both.
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You forgot the number 1 reason never to date single moms. Her online ad always says MY KIDs ARE NUMBER 1 in MY life. and they should be. Then stay single till kids are gone.
They will still be number one in mom's life, even after they are on their own. And once they become a grandparent - well just forget it. Just know that the guy will ALWAYS be number 2.
@@bborosswill any man should be thankful to be near Jordan and her awesomeness... The sleeve tattoos giant stupid dog two headache fathers with the two kids that she never mentions once by the way
Single parents should date each other. I wouldn’t want my future daughter with a single father or a man with multiple kids but I also wouldn’t want my son with a single mother.
Single mother don't have that leverage since she is NOT going to provide for the single father and his kids. Also, single father don't have biological clock unlike women.
I was a single Father and the only thing the women I went out with would say is when are you going to have a free weekend? When a woman has kids it’s always my kids come first, it’s the same on dating sites women will always say my kids come first but then turn around and say it’s better if your kids are not still at home. Double standard and hypocritical because they have to be at the center of the universe because they think the world revolves around them.
It's called female solipsism.
To be fair, our government and culture have set that expectation that the world revolve around them and hold them blameless for their choices.
I was trying to just be friends with a single Mom of three. I could never win, she was always on edge, there was always stuff going on with her kids, or the ex. There was a lot of story and trauma, also for the kids. I felt like her rock and when she was not there anymore, I realized how quiet and peaceful and restful my life was and that s what she was looking for, a place to rest. She was also a great listener and funny and very personable, and I was the one being dumped, so to speak, but when it happened and I came out of the emotional spin, I eased back into my own calm and peace, and that was also beautiful. Sometimes I still remember and acknowledge this friendship, but I also remember the emotional roller-coaster.
Similar right now !!! I had to be cordial
As a single woman, I agree . I don't need to hear about the drama. When I wanted to talk about my issues, I was told I was self centered?
The calmness in Your conversation with Your guests comes from Your self confidence because You already "done the work", long before they were even think about these topics! There is no magic, no persuasion, no hate speach, no hurt feelings... just polite, calm conversation with crystal clear facts. It is so valuable to see, in such short period of time, what does it mean when some one say: "Do the work!" Thank You man.
Single mom + 2 kids from 2 dudes + at least one dog. 90% of every dating app I've seen.
I'm not even going on an app then, who needs that?
If a guy decides to have an ltr with a single mother and it doesn't work out. It's highly likely that he can be liable for those children even though they aren't his. If you reverse the roles, a woman that gets involved with a single father and it ends. It super rare that she will be on the hook financially for his offspring.
As someone who tried the single mother shitshow I advise men to avoid it at all cost.🧐
Female here.. the way that Gillian reacts, sums it up. These women feel they have to live defensively and justify their actions continually. Which means they know they are guilty.
As for Jordan she's trying her best to justify two children with different Fathers. Thats just screaming easy. I know I wouldnt want to be next in line there
You are correct. These women are defensive because they know they have made a mess of their life.
You would have to be insane to wanna get involved with that Jordan and her two baby daddies, life with her would be a train wreck.
You can tell why Jordan has two kids/two different fathers. Shared custody of both. Red flag central
and she thinks she is hotter now than before her kids...lol Delusion.
The fact Jordan has her kids that little says a lot about her as a woman.
I’m 50. Last year I dated a 36yo single Mother for about 7-8 weeks. That was enough.
I considered it, because I’m in a better position in life vs 20 years ago.
Never again.
Here’s the hierarchy of importance…
Her Kids
Her Kid’s Friends
Her Kids’ Teammates
Her Kids’s Classmates
Her Pets
Last Night’s Leftovers
*You/Her ex
*Your Finances
“Your Finances can move up and down the chart when needed.
*You and her ex can swap places at any time.
The one I had dated said no kind words about her ex. She was the martyr, the victim. It turns out they tried to make it work after I was gone and that only lasted “a week or 2”.
Dates were altered for little reasons such as an increased homework load; “Tina’s mom is
Sick and can’t take her daughter to dance class.”
It’s just not worth it.
The sex is quiet, potentially not as frequent and scheduled.
Man I’m 46 have no kids and if I was your buddy would have knocked you upside the head when you started dating her! It may be hard to see but we get more and more valuable as we age to these women. Don’t ever date one with a kid - I won’t even date one who has a kid that is 25+. They too come with massive drama - ‘my 25 year old kid can’t pay the rent can we give this kid $2500?’ type of things. You will NEVER be #1 but always expected to make her and her kids #1. NOPE, I know my value - don’t do it again man - ever.
Don't forget them listening to their girlfriends discussing you
The biggest thing for me, as a single man with no children, is that I will never be her top priority, but she'll be my top priority. We can literally never have the same level of commitment to the relationship, and that is a huge key to happiness in a relationship. Not to mention, I'm used to not doing kid activities, and that is the last thing I want to do, especially when it's not even my kid!
@HC-sb1ru oh yeah, they'll tell you straight up that you come second to her kids. Which I understand, but she needs to understand that makes her far less desirable.
Correct my friend. On what planet does that makes sense to expect first place when you’re handing out crumbs??? I couldn’t agree more. I could never do it to myself, nope.
dont worry…..A Man soon becomes second to his kids too…….
@@Wombat-y7t I’m sure every human alive would be ok with coming second to their own blood, but another man’s? NO ! I would also be ok with being broke because I have to take care of my kids , but another man’s? NO!
@@amazinggrace313 until you are not ok……which leads to affairs, straying or other destructive behavior….
Dating a man with children was a complete nightmare😢... I have no children. My ex was on an emotional rollercoaster! His ex wife was constant drama - pure evil👿. No thanks to men with children! I only date single men with no children.