Tecumseh Governor Springs and Throttle
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I can't believe it took me this long to do a video on the governor springs on a Tecumseh mower. I replace a manual throttle and do a demo of governor springs on a Craftsman mower.
Thank you for your explanation of the newer style. my governor wasn't working properly but it turns out i had the shafts swapped so it was binding. great video.
Thanks for the great comment.
Hey Bruce! I have commented about how much I appreciate your other videos and sure as heck, this one just bailed me out of some confusion on a techumseh carb. The care you take to create perfect video shots which are in focus and well lighted. Your a wonderful soul Bruce, thanks for all you do!
Well thanks so much. It means a lot.
I have the same throttled engine on a Craftsman edger that I bought cheap because it wouldn't start. The jet nut was clogged but the carb linkages were also connected all wrong or disconnected altogether. The end of this video was a great help in sorting out where the linkages connected.
That is great.
Nice one, Bruce. Most owners don't know just how fast you can screw up those throttle controls by hooking up the springs and control arms to the wrong to the places. I've had to refer to the mechanics manual many times times when i didn't pay proper attention during disassembly.
Me too. Thanks so much George.
I'm glad you made a video showing how that throttle plate hooks up, because I got this Craftsman Blower/Vac Chipper and for whatever reason the previous owner removed the throttle plate, most likely because he put a new carb on. Luckily I have a few spare throttle plates. However on this machine it also had the kill switch on the throttle plate, I also have a spare kill wire tab to hook on it, but the guy wired in his own messy kill switch and one of the wires is not hooked up still so I have to try and figure out exactly where all the wires went. I know the green ground came from the coil and went to the throttle plate and I have a feeling this other black wire coming from the back of the machine that is disconnected also goes right to the throttle plate where the green ground goes or somewhere near it. Something like that. This guy really had it all boogered up, I wonder why he didn't just put the throttle plate back on when he replaced the carb, maybe it broke like the one you had and he did not have a spare, so he went to town re-wiring everything. Parts direct is great, because you can get most Sears machines manuals, however this particular machine has no manual for it on their website.
Anyway this video was very helpful, thank you.
You are welcome
Bruce, I've been hunting for this information for three days, Tecumseh TVS115 57004c, 4.5 hp Murray lawn mower. I have the original manual but it doesn't show the linkage. I have the two linkages reversed in the holes on the governor arm so I'll correct that .
Thanks for posting this.
Thanks for watching
hey ! thank you !!,,,,,,my brother brought me in this old 3 in 1 craftsman mower ,,like antique ,,,,,the throttle set up is the same as what your showing here !! thank you very much !
Glad I could help
I have the same exact mower lol. It's a little over 20 years old and still runs like a champ. Great video Mr. Bruce!
All right!!!
Many thanks Bruce, your video really helped to fix my neighbour's lawnmower in Germany.
Wow that is great!!!
Good video. I just came across a junker 1990 Craftsman eager- 1 and I'm trying g to get it working. The carburetor is physically in good condition after cleaning it with brake cleaner along with the priming bulb removal and area. I need to play with the springs. I took pictures prior to removal and reinstalled like it was. Based on your video the springs on mine were incorrectly installed from the get go prior, to me finding it. Thank you.
Glad it helped
Hi Bruce, another Bruce here. Your video Tecumseh Governor Springs and Throttle was great!
I put a new carburetor and spark plug on an old Craftsman with a Tecumseh engine. This was my Dad's, just seeing if I can get it running right. Sounds a bit strange. Probably don't have the governor/throttle linkage correct, but working on it, waiting on a spring. ua-cam.com/video/ogbn-uEwsMU/v-deo.html
Thanks I went to your video
I know this is and old video but I thank you for showing me why my 6.5 would only idle! It was the bent bracket !!!
Perfect
Saved me again buddy, I have an old 1968 or 70 craftsman tractor with a Tecumseh 7hp on it, it's in pristine condition, very well cared for, well I got it for free, and am making her run again, and the linkage was not correct, well you saved the day man,..... Thank you.
I call it "A picture is worth a thousand words" Good for you.
THANK YOU so much Mr. Pender! I'm working on a Tecumseh Carb Replacement and have the springs backwards. You have a new sub now.
Welcome aboard. Right there is no way of knowing the position of the spring.
very good video, clear, precise, loud enough to hear very well. well done and exactly what I needed, thank-you.
Thanks
Thanks for this video. It solved my problem in a craftsman edger .really well done and informative
Good for you.
SIR you are a fine man to share your knowledge to everyone THANK YOU SIR
You must be watching a pile of videos. THANKS.
Thanks for making a video of the linkages. It helped me fix my mower
You made my day. Good for you for fixing it.
Thanks for your video I really appreciate it I took them Tecumseh rods off for the governor and forgot which way they went
You are welcome
Those Tecumseh springs and linkages are tricky. I have a few pictures printed out in my toolbox that I keep on file to refresh my memory. I like your stockpile.
I use videos now Donnyboy73, Yours, sixtyfiveford, Zippo varga, and more of course.
Thank you so much for this video, now know where each spring goes
You are so welcome.
I know, old video , but my neighbour just asked me to look at his. My research shows governor spring attaches to the governor lever and the rod goes into the moveable speed lever.
yes. The rod goes to the top hole in the governor. The spring goes to a fixed point behind the carb
Thanks for all your videos. I really enjoy them, and I have learned a lot.
Thanks for watching Paul
I haven't heard that word "cussing" since the 1990s. Memories
I am usually just having fun with old sayings like that.
Just what I needed. Thanks.
Great you made my day
👋 Bruce I hope you are staying busy working on mowers or whatever comes your way. I had to take my carb off twice on a lawn boy mower with a Tecumseh carb was really plugged with chunks of old nasty gas. I’m trying to get the engine speed down s bit. Tried adjusting governor a bit, also bent tab on spring helped some.
Right Just keep at it That is how we learn.
Thank you finally a video on the throttle just what I needed😀😀😀
You are welcome
I still use a drill bit as an indexing pin on most of those.
Great idea.
very informative Bruce. I don't really have room to save parts in so I tend to give them away and need them latter. LOL
I do that too. It is a fine balance.
Nicely done my Canadian friend. Greetings from the south
Thanks JJ
Ive seen too any videos where important parts are left out.
Looks great Bruce! Son of a Nutcracker! lol
good one.
great info . i take the whole shroud off when doing these jobs. makes connecting things a lot eaiser
Right on. I change it up sometimes.
YOUR ONE OF THE BEST! Thank you
Wow, thanks!
Exactly what I needed! Thanks very much
Great!!!
glad to see you back in action!
Me too. thanks
Good learning video Bruce, thanks. I got my hydraulic lift table at Harbor Freight the 1000 lb. one as it better built like yours. I still need to do the platform mod like yours. I took collect all the dohickies and thingamabobs from small engines and mowers never know when you need something. Especially on an old one.
You will love it Raymond. I use mine every day no kidding.
Awesome job as always Bruce! Cheers my Northern Friend! Sean~
I should have done this video years ago.
I have a 16 year old Toro Tecumseh engine self-propelled lawn mower. I think I messed a spring up or something. I replaced the carburetor and flushed out all the trash in my gas tank and got new no-ethanol gas. Still getting spark but dies immediately.
When the governor springs are in right you should be able to feel tension on the throttle butterfly actuator. That is the one with the holes in it for the throttle rods. If it runs for a few seconds I would think it needs more fuel Have you sprayed starter fluid into the carb opening??? That should give it a shot. Also I have seen the gasket on the intake partially close off going into the motor too----- if on crooked. Fiddle with it. If it is sputtering you are close.
@@BrucesShop Everything looks good. I rechecked. No crooked gaskets, I replaced my carburetor (same carburetor I replaced the original one with last year
HIFROM Carburetor Carb kit with 36905 740083A Air Filter Fuel Filter for Tecumseh 640350 640303 LEV105 LEV120 Toro 20016 20017 20018 Worked great until I tried to clean the carburetor a few weeks ago and didn't have the right wrench handy and I tried to take the screw out with a pair of pliers and broke it. I reordered the same kit. My spark plug had carbon deposits on it really bad...not sure if that was normal or not and there was white powdery residue in the exhaust manifold or whatever that part is that comes off the carburetor and hooks to the muffler. I did have trash in my gas tank and in my gas can. I flushed them both out with denatured alcohol and let them dry out before refilling with fresh no-ethanol gas. I changed the spark plug and air filter. The lawnmower is doing EXACTLY the same thing as it was doing before. My fuel line is not clogged. I've worked on this for the past 2 days and I'm about to give up. My linkage is installed correctly. I even tried adjusting it both ways. Always the same results. Starts, dies in about 2 seconds.I use starter fluid to get it started. The first time I put the new carburetor on, I took it off and made sure the holes in the screw thing were all clear and I sprayed everything with carb cleaner for good measure. It starts right up. Any other ideas? There is tension on the actruator thigy the throttle rod is attached to.
@@lydiahubbell6278 Well you sound like you hit all the issues. Have you taken a valve lash measurement. Most of the Tecumseh's are 10 thousands. I have ground the odd valve in my day. This is a snowblower engine but the work is the same. ua-cam.com/video/iogOUbNB-FY/v-deo.html I really want to help. Just check the lash at just past top dead centre on the compression stroke. I want you to find it.
Bruce man you saved me, thanks for having this video.
You are welcome.
I spect if ya just got to curse you could give us a "Golly gosh darn it" and we wouldn't mind at all. Great video as usual.
We actual I am bilingual English and profanity.
Hey Bruce. I've got an issue with the governor on a Tecumseh H25. I don't think it's in the case at all. I did the adjustment (loosen screw, throttle full, snug back up) and it still wants to pull past 3500 rpm's. This is from a 1970 Bonanza Scout that I have to have governed for my boy to ride (minibike). The only reason why I think it's still in there is that when I reversed the adjustment (just to see) it took off like a prom dress. I can post a video if it would help. Thanks.
Did you bend the tang to loosen the springs? probably a dumb question.
Hey Bruce, great video. What I would like to know is, where can I get a tecumseh gas feed on the carburetor like the one in this video. I have an old 3.8 hp Tecumseh on an old Murray mower that belonged to my Mom, back about 30 years ago and would just like to get it going again just for old time sake. The gas feed now is on the handle and I‘ve tried and tried but cannot get it to work right. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bruce.
I don't understand. A gas feed is like a fuel hose. can you help? Do you mean the wire feed in a conduit to control the gas?
My hi/low throttle was always set to high no matter what position. Thanks!
I hope this helps.
Hey Bruce, your video got me back in business, but I’m not sure my linkage is in the right hole on the throttle lever, any advice here, my engine now runs but only at full throttle?
In the attached video (not this one) at the 9 minute mark you will see the throttle lever. It has a bigger hole and it is also the closest one to the throttle shaft is where the lever without the spring goes.
ua-cam.com/video/mmiliB-jg6s/v-deo.html
If your in the correct hole you may be able to adjust the tension on the other lever spring.
The thing you talk about in the beginning, modifying it to run max rpm always eliminating the toggle, how do I do that? Thanks
You just find the setting for maximum RPM and lock that throttle in that position. You may have to improvise the holding item Bending a lever or whatever. Just makes sure it solid on max RPm.
Got one from 86 self propelled Craftmans for some reason after I clean the carb and put it back on
Runs full throttle and the red part don't do anything I mean like Full rev lol I don't need to change speed I just want to turn RPM down a little suggest
Ok Your problem is the governor set up. sometimes the little hooks on the rods can catch or you have the 2 different rods transposed and they need to be redone. The one with the spring goes on the lower hole and the solid one goes on the upper hole of the governor arm coming out of the engine. The solid one goes to the throttle on the carb. Make sure the one with the spring goes to the movable throttle with the red lever. Something may be jammed. Don't hesitate to take the throttle assembly off and start over. When they work it is truly cool. Look at spot 8:11 in the video
@@BrucesShop wow ok thx this make it way easier
Can u tell me what the governor screw does? much thanks.
There really is no governor screw. The screw there adjusts the RPM
bruce need some help on the throttle mechism on the tec engine prima older model with a titaton carb hooked up mines has that metal plate on it aswell but looks a older version
I wished I was there to help sorry
Very helpful Bruce 👍👍
Glad you think so!
Was in sir Mick's stream other nite asked a question about cleaning up a coil to get better contact but sadly the coil has sparked it's last spark
Thank you! This was a great help!
I am happy you got it.
I’m having trouble getting my throttle working, I have everything set the same as you but the throttle doesn’t do anything do you know what could fix this
Thanks
It is toug h when you are done, the throttle should have a spring motion. The tittle arems could be upside reversed. I you want to send me a close up picture i may be able to help. my email is
bthversion1@gmail.com
got a quest where can i get the top part for the carb for choke and throttle im looking for a replacement for one machine and in need of it
well you would have to use google or ebay. That is what I do
@@BrucesShop i ended finding a part number and the arms and springs so i can get a lawn mower im fixing up and running thank you for your time
Hi where can I find a complete carburetor?
Amazon
More of a question. What kind of lift is that you're using and roughly what is the cost of it?
This video answers all the questions. The best info is n the comments as well.
ua-cam.com/video/yv7FtFWRHaU/v-deo.html
Bruce, my governor is always pulled to the rear of the engine even with the top bracket pushed forward as much as I can. So what should I try to do to resolve that problem? Thank you!
There is some adjustment to that lever. Usually all the way to the left or right with no tension . Loosen the screw around the shaft the little post only moves about a 1/4 turn. Lots of youtube help there. This video is of a Briggs but similar
ua-cam.com/video/q5kB_s6MK6Q/v-deo.html
I missed one, how’d that happen?
You missed it amigo
Great video man ..well explain...
Glad you liked it!
Nicely done.
I think we have all had a go t this one. I was a few years late. I liked the older throttle linkage on this one.
Great video Bruce, thanks!
Thanks back to you for watching.
I have the springs and parts on correctly on mine but i am having trouble with the mower actually changing its idle speed when I flip the switch. I have tried the adjustment screws although I just cant seem to get it to work? Any tips? - Thanks
Move the throttle lever on the carb and it should have a springy action.
Bruce Pender I can move the governor lever and it increases the idle by moving the throttle on the top of the carb but the high and low idle lever doesn’t seem to be able to let that governer lever move the throttle on its own when the lever is moved.
I am working with similar motor. How do I order or find locally the linkage from carb throttle to governor? Either engine didn't have it when I started messing with it or I lost it? I don't see how it would run without it?? I bought this from a relative that had not used it for several years so when it did not run very well I ordered a replacement carbeurator and now I see there must be a linkage missing. It has the linkage with the spring on the end that goes from top plate where cable attaches. My engine is on Craftsman 5.0 22" string weed trimmer. Engine model143.995002 WTPXS 1851BA . I'm in Alabama
I am not sure. You may have t wait for something to come by. Sorry
@@BrucesShop there are some possibilities on ebay I am checking on.
Mine has like a little chain on it and I'm guessing its for the throttle but its way different than this setup
I have not seen a chain.
Great videos watch a lot of them I'm starting a Lil business out of my garage fixing lawn mowers an snow blowers. Name is mowers an blowers lol.just wondering were u buy all shop supplies an parts if u need them
I order my carb parts and smaller stuff on line and keep a few of each on hand. . I repair the rewinds and have a few of each in the shed. I sometimes pick stuff up at the local dealer If I don't have it. I should do a video on that.
Bruce Pender thanks
Hi Bruce,love your videos,have a mower starts than dies clean carb three times still won't stay running,cleaned little holes in screw on bottom. You make it seem so easy but this one is tough. Been selling trash mowers and fixing them for the last six years never had one come back. This one just got it's old but just won't stay running,am I missing something.
Keep at it fuel spark. I don't know what to say.
Hi Bruce,tried another carb no dice,so decided to put old one back on and sell it for parts,but after I put it on it started right up and ran like a champ. Can't figure that out.
Maybe an intake issue the cleared up during assembly.
Thanks Bruce for the input.Still love your videos have the same table but drifts down after awhile,so I put the stay bar down then slide a 3/4x6 board in there and it won't go down.
Yes I just pump mine back up
Hey Bruce! I need your help, I have an old Power Back 5250 generator that I replaced the Carb with a new one, filter and shutoff valve cleaned the gas tank out and spark plug but It still sputters and backfires. What could be the trouble?Please help me my Canadian Friend.
By the way its a Tecumseh
If it is backfiring I would check the valve tappet clearance. If the intake valve if open at all will cause a fire back to the carb. I am not an expert but that is the next thing I would check.
Bruce Pender Agree, valves ---- sticking / gummed up from bad gas.
Where did you get your lift? It is so cool!
Here is the link to my yellow lift. It was a gift from my wife.
ua-cam.com/video/yv7FtFWRHaU/v-deo.html
@@BrucesShop thanks.
Awesome!!! I learned something new
Good for you Shawn
Yeah
Bruce Pender I always learn from your videos.
love as u speed up amd talked still very cool
Thanks Brandon
Where does the solid arm connect?
At 7:11 it show the arm goes from the carb throttle to the governor arm
It sounds like water dripping or something in the background, I don't know what it is
Could be.
Nice job sir.
Thanks Davey
whats the throttle control bracket part nr ? my riding mower has fixed rpm with the bracket on the spring. i want to swap it to manual.
It is connected to an engine internal governor. Don't disconnect that.
@@BrucesShop where did i say about disconnecting the governor ? I just want to swap the fixed rpm to an adjustable. but i found the part is Tecumseh 35727
@@Boemel Ok I assumed wrong. The maual throttle may work. The rods for the throttle may be a different length. I am just trying to help. I get 100 emails a day as 33,000 subs keeps me busy. Sorry if-I sounded blunt.
@@BrucesShop Totally understandable. Thanks for helping out and the great channel. have a good one.
Bruce what kind of jacking platform and where did you purchase it. Great video keep them coming. And I never throw away useful parts
Here this explains it all.
ua-cam.com/video/yv7FtFWRHaU/v-deo.html
Bruce do u know the part numbers
for the tecumseh gov spring??
Not off hand. Google is your best bet. I am sorry.
Do they run all the way open
Not when set properly. The governor hold the throttle back to about 3200 RPM's if there is no manual throttle. Maximum RPM will blow up the engine in less than a minute.
Love it a bag of doohickeys. I do the same LOL
A sorted bag of different dohickeys.
i hust 4got they way it was all rigged up while waiting for my new carbie to get to Australia from the UK
Got it. Good luck
Thank you!
You are welcome.
Never toss any useful parts for small engines , I do the same.
I try to keep as much stuff as i can without making a "big mess"
very helpful thanks
I am happy you enjoyed it.
Thank you so much
You are welcome.
MUY BUEN TRABAJO 👍
Gracias Senior Bernardo
Good fix!
Thanks Mr. Shade
nice job.
Thanks so much Josh
4:18, I hate it when there's extra parts!! 😆
LOL
Lol and i end up back on your viz im working in a snowblower now and i thinks its the governor.
If the engine runs it is a lot of the time a governor issue..
@@BrucesShop nope mr 50+ years it was the carb and runs great now.
Need to be more clear on placement of linkage. Video unclear (at best) on which holes to connect linkage too.
Is this a rub.... respectfully yes it is.
Marginally helpful.
OK
I was going to suggest if you get to where you are cussing ..It's time to take a break and have a cold drink....But that 24 pack of Coor's Light may be too extreme
I had a couple tonight. This is our long weekend Queen Victoria's birthday (from way back) I think it coincides with your Memorial Day but a week earlier.
Too dark
Cannot see !!! Where is ur lite
How about 9:15. Remember you aren't watching Steven Spielberg. I see you have never made an instructional video but f you do i will watch and comment positively.
theres a easier way 2 remove
There always is.
i find it better just to pull the intake manifold off . then strip down the throttle assembly and carburetor
Ever heard of a ratchet cheif?
No I haven't.