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One thing to note this video was made before cig gave an actual clarification about the missile changes. And no I can’t and won’t reply to comments saying the exact same thing. For all of you crying “this is an alpha” have missed the point entirely. Name an actual feature that has actually been implemented and completed.
You must be on something crazy, first quantum travel is not a complete feature it has always been in tier 0 what we have now is a place holder. And bed logging is very hit or miss you can barely call that a gameplay feature
Oh he's talking about me! 😂 This guy can't just take the L and learn not to have knee jerk reactions to every little change in the game
@adarkwind4712 you’re slow, quantum as it stands now is a place holder. Bed logging doesn’t work
@adarkwind4712 I have tried on stream hasn’t worked in this latest patch
You’re not important 😂
There's a post by a developer, this is a temporary 1 patch change, in PTU to look into why they're missing
This video was done before that update came out
Maybe go check Spectrum. The Devs put out a post before this video dropped that the speed was temp reduced to find a problem. They are going to move the speed back up in the next patch. Savrals-CIGsaid
Hi,
This was a temporarily balancing state where we wanted to see if certain issues that we have been observing were related to the speed of missiles and torpedos. It was not something that was meant to be a permanent change.
Speeds have been increase again for the next build. They will not be as they were before but torpedos now will be back up to 514 m/s to 560 m/s (as of now)
I am sorry for the confusion it might have caused but we now have a clearer picture of what needs fixing from our side.
Missiles will get like every other ship item and weapon a thorough rework for 4.0 to tie in with the resource network changes.
Cheers
Video was made before that post came out
@@marcuswynn89 I figured, that that is why I said dropped.
Missile speeds just went up. They said they were only reduced speeds for testing purposes in the test patch.
source on that please
@@ViniciusConsorte Spectrum. The devs confirmed they need to slow sown the speed to figure something out. they are going to make the speed fasted again in the next patch.
Next patch you say… just like squadron 42 chapter one release in 2014? What about the SANDWORM? Server meshing? If they need to test something then they can do it internally and not push it to any patch players see, especially after Invictus selling the Polaris/Firebird/Vanguard Harb/Retaliator modularity sales/etc.
I feel like I’m playing League of Legends or wow again… let’s just keep nerfing things to get people to buy/swap ships then rebuff it later to get them to rebuy. It just keeps happening…. Let me guess it’s just an Alpha right? This game has potential and demand but if they keep fucking around they will find out with a failed two game projects.
if only they had a public test thing that everyone could log in and test all the stuff so they dont break the real game.........if only
@@canop1601 yeah if only they had a public test server.
Is he talking about the missile testing phase they warned us about?
Ya he’s dumb. Remember people also saying “they buff ships for sales” well RIP those ideas too. These people have NOTHING better to do with their time.
They make a new ship, which flies like a dream, fights like a dream, smooth as glass. So it brings record sales.
Then, after the sales are over, Nerf it to hell, for "game balancing", so you either melt it, or ccu it, They keep your
money, either way, saying: we'll fix it: "sometime in the future", meanwhile... try this new shiney for more cash!
The marketing team runs CIG. They know you will buy new ships, if you are unhappy with the old ones. ($$$)
Being around since 2016 with SC, its a balancing game in Alpha. The Buccaneer is a great example that needs to be addressed. Hope they get the data they need and fix it sooner rather than later. I tell people to wait and get ships in game with auec and you'll never be upset. If you want to pay over a started game package to power creep, go for it, but you can't get upset if something changes. FYI, the Perseus has two twin size 7 turrets. Its always been a gunboat, not a missle boat.
This game has never been balanced
@marcuswynn89 No but its not even a beta, so I wouldn't exactly call it a game. I remember when you could only look at a ship in a hangar. Its a far cry from what the original kick starter envisioned, because the player base asked for those additions. I'm glad to see how its developed.
As a person who recently gave up on an Arrastra, to buy up to a Polaris, i melted a Zeus & a 315p in my hangar, 2 ships that i really like btw.
I was like - ooh wait, the Size 9 torps do a lot of damage, imagine how much the Size 10s on the Polaris will do. I saw the ISC episode where John said they will be looking into up-sizing the guns on the Polaris. I sat there and carefully thought things through, spoke with a few friends to get different opinions.
In the end of the day i have a dream, to get a Capital ship. I was going to be patient with the BMM as i have an own a 25$ CCU from the Arrastra to the BMM - i was planning on waiting, using the Arra in the meant time, until the Merchantman gets released, then when it does eventually get released id use & apply the CCU i purchased back in 2023
Now after i saw the post about the missile changes, i immediately went on Spectrum & posted a few things i wanted to note.
Missiles, Torpedoes are Scary! IRL the ICBM (Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) are capable of reaching hypersonic speeds. Im talking above Mach 20. (Fastest one i know is the ICBM Avangarde - mach 27)
The current state of missiles and explosives in-game is quite frankly ridiculous. At their previous speeds - 2,000 m/s and 1,500 m/s the missiles were easy to avoid.
Now at the "New Speeds" of 800m/s for the fastest ones its just a joke.
A missile generally consists of a warhead, mostly simple electronics, a type of engine to make it accelerate fast and in general its in an aero dynamic body so it can reach the fastest speed it can! They are amazing in a straight line but not very good at making adjustments. Most are a simple fire & Forget solution. There are different types of explosives & the broad term missile is more generally accepted.
In real life Missiles are scary & are a serious problem for any fighting force to face against. In space they can theoretically reach even higher speeds than in atmosphere, because lower resistances. They will be affected by gravitational forces & will generally need to be build to be larger so they can maneuver better. Will need a lot more electronics than the current designs and be manufactured to perfection, so they can reach their targets!
I am not asking CIG to implement hyper-sonic speed missiles, but darn it a Size 12 Torpedo fired off a Javelin or a Size 10 from the Polaris is basically an ICBM! I expect that thing to deal devastating damage when it hits its target! I expect such a big and powerful missile to have limited range, to be locked on slower and to be bloody fast in a straight line and terrible at strafing. Depending on the type of explosive used it can be a Nuke, it can be a H.E.A.T. style round that can deal with lightly armored targets, or it can even be a mix of different stages of explosives. There are even ones designed to deal with armored targets!
The missiles can be deceived via Counter measures, which are created to have high signature values so they can attract missiles. There are Point Defense Systems like Active Protection Systems (APS) which can be designated ballistic turrets that ONLY target and focus high velocity projectiles coming towards the target they are protecting, there is chafe as well that can obscure a large area & hide signatures if deployed in time. We also have an early warning system on every ship that notifies us that we have a Target Lock-on us & missile warning as well! WE ARE NOT DEFENSELESS against a Fast Missile traveling at us!
The way to balance the missiles is Not to reduce their speed. Its to play with the values on how well they can Turn, How slow they Lock-on and how much fuel they carry.
I expect a small missile to run out of fuel quickly. And i expect it to also have a small Area of Effect(AOE) These can be the specialized missiles. And they should have the least amount of "HP" and be easy to shoot down compared to something bigger with slightly more protection. And they can also accelerated faster.
I expect a Large Torpedo / Missile over size 5+ to have a decent medium to large sized AOE affect, good high speed in a straight line, slower acceleration but higher top speed that builds up gradually, more fuel, much slower lock-on to a target, but also to deal devastating damage when they land!
CIG can even tweak the Shield values so that shields can absorb missile damage, but the shield itself overheats very quickly due to the explosion, so peppering a target with many explosives can overheat the shields & then reach the hull to still be effective.
Bottom line: The missile speed/s, the game-play balance, the lock-on mechanics & the damage of the missiles can all be balanced in a way to make the game more fun!
But missiles in Space should be scary! They should be a considerable threat! Look at the TV Series "The Expanse" they got the Missiles down perfectly!
Yes @marcuswynn89 i agree with your overall statement. CIG does this sh*t all the time, they just killed many missile based ships and this needs to be put to a stop.
I will continue my own battle for this in the Spectrum Forums and open a separate customer support ticket.
If someone at CIG sits for a bit, does a little bit of missile research - they will see that World War II underwater torpedoes can move faster than the slow speeds they had to "Test" LoL They need to stop marketing team`s BS.
That was a lot but I agree with your statement
@@marcuswynn89 Thank you! :)
@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637 it’s nice to see that some people can actually see the point of the video
They usually wait for 30 days to pass to get around refunds...
0:51 - YES!!! I've been saying this for YEARS. It's also the Ares Ion (the ship weapon), Redeemer (turret speed), the Syulen (nerfed maneuverablility), and many others... always RIGHT after the ships sales are closed, so you cannot melt and trade for something else. Literally a bait and switch.
CLARIFICATION for the White Knights and bots: I don't have a problem with rebalancing--this is of course an alpha and stuff changes all the time. That's fine. What I have a problem with is the TIMING where they don't wait until the next major patch or subversion; no, they nerf it IMMEDIATELY after ship sales are over. THAT is sus af. And frankly deplorable.
Glad to see you don’t have a nose full of copium
If I was to buy a capital ship it would be the Perseus and the karken. But that would be it. I still see some good options to use the Perseus. But it would not be a ship. I and my org would use alone. I feel with a capital ship or sub capital ship. That it should be used in a fleet rather than alone ship. Speed alone will be a major concern when in a fight with more than one ship. Then on top of that you also got to look into the turret speed of turn. How are you got to adjust to the scenario with larger ships. Yes large ship to large ship dog fights will happen time to time. But you got to know enough people to crew ships of those sizes. It’s easy to throw a group of 3 or 4 people together and still have a great time. As far as my personal opinion. Capital ship should have some sort of fighter escort. To help in battles.
I agree that its scummy that they made the firebird too good then nerfed it, but it doesnt make sense to buy a pledge because the ship is good in the first place, and you said it yourself, its not like they nerf stuff then leave it, the corsair and scorpius are both examples of ships that have been nerfed then buffed again with mechanic changes.
I’m definitely pissed. Bought the FB cuz I know I’ll never get a raven. I’m really hoping they’re just testing and will revert the speeds back or even make them faster. Missiles should be more useful. Make it more difficult to get the lock and make it the missile have a higher chance to hit so when do get a lock it’s more meaningful.
missiles are still going to be reworked same for torpedoes, so lets just wait and see
The thing that bugs me is they flattend out all the stats.
Another ships system is simplified.
Its just dumbed down more and more since 3.14
Cheers bud
2:00 Ehm what.
no, you cannot just "keep running away" The only time where you can do this is if you're in a ship in nav mode that's already going max speed. At which point well... you're already going max speed.
That means whoever is targeting you had every opportunity to get you before that point.
I think your criticism is valid, but it should be based on reality, not false arguments. If you want to force someone to fight? you need to use a quantum jammer. That has always been the case.
If someone in pre-mastermodes wanted to run away, they just jumped away.
If you want someone in master-modes to be forced to fight? you need to use a quantum jammer, or fire a missile at them before they reach that full nav mode speed.
if you're firing missiles at people after they go at 900-1000m/s that's your own fault.
6:30
You do understand that, someone switching to nav mode does not magically set their speed to 900+ m/s right? They still need to reach that speed. I feel like you don't understand how fast 900 m/s is. If someone is at 5000 meters away, which is far over your normal engagement distance already. It will take a little over 5 seconds for your missiles to reach them.
So they have including lockon time maybe... 7-8 seconds to get into nav mode, and reach a speed where they can actually outrun the missiles. And that's at 5000 meters.
7:55 now HERE we are in agreement, that speed nerf along with the minimum lock range, is silly.
Just another day with classic CIG
I wish I could take my view back. You could’ve done ONE search on spectrum and found out why missiles are the way they are right now
Aww poor thing
@@marcuswynn89 dude gets made to look like a moron and now has to act like a teenage girl to cope
Preach my brotha! FACTS!!! I understand they are trying to tweak things but breaking them completely is making me want to just go play something else and come back when they get their heads out of their asses even more. So glad I didnt buy shit this ILW.
First i would like to say "yes" these ships are AT THE MOMENT "useless" and I 100% agree based on the statistics of the missiles show. Next I would like to point out that the current missile stats are very likely, not the final (as in 1.0) stats. I says this with confidence. This is because the game is "YES" still Alpha, still being tested and yes still a solid minute away from that 1.0 release that is on the horizon. So, at this point some are saying that I am a 'White Knight", witch i am guessing is like a defender for CIG, Star Citizen as a whole. Yes I agree that i am. HOWEVER I am not defending CIG in the expected why of just blindly displacing actual proof of problems that are in the current LIVE build of the game. I defend CIG with Proof NOT insecurity with the following. As it is known this game is in Alpha therefore game features are still being tested, witch in turn could mean that CIG "IS TEMPORALLY" changing the statistics of specific LIVE game features (missile speeds) to better asses the NEW game feature (i.e. "MASTER MODES") or some other area of the current LIVE build. This does mean that; none, few, or many game loops will not be affected. Area Commander and most likely others have been absolutely been affected by the recent "3.23.1" patch. This is a valid concern for the Citizens playing those game loops as it changes the experience and overall enjoyment. So, to sum it all up, I believe with confidence, that CIG has made these changes with specific intentions in mind. Allowing them to better gather specific game data in some area of then game.
All of that aside I would like to remind everyone that this is game is IN DEVELOPMENT. Statistics are going to change and fluctuate based on the requirements for that development. So try not to get to discouraged.
I get the hatred of over-nerfing something to be useless but often nerfs are a buff to other things if not everything else. Also, seeing a ship just walk up and torp their target is pretty depressing "gameplay" or "skill"
Im glad more and more people are finally not letting this kind of garbage slide. These nerfs have been happening for years and this one is the dumbest of all of them so far. Keep it up and don't bow down to the people defending this. I have been here since 2.6 and im tired of what CIG has been doing the last couple of years.
They did revert missile speeds back after “testing for a bug”, my thing is what bug? Since when does CIG test for bugs?
@@marcuswynn89 and what kind of bug was even beeing tested to begin with? Sounds more like an excuse to me ngl.
They never said
im already melted upgraded my galaxy and retaliator, after they sell ONLY NON LTI modules for ONLY REAL MONEY. im not suprised.
Right now, space combat is the major thing. But if base building becomes a thing, I would say at least 50 percent (if not more) of combats will be in atmosphere. That is my bet, for why they changed missile gameplay. But I would say you need different kinds of missiles: Big ones who are kinda slow and either some kind of bunker buster or capital ship killers, medium ones mainly for atmospheric fights who are of large range and of medium speed, that still can deal large amount of damage and the third kind should be very small and very fast, mainly made for self defense, who are capable of disabling components or so, like emp weapons.
thats a cool idea but in 2024 we basically have hypersonic missiles, so those changes really don't make any sense. yeah okay you're "testing" for a bug.
@@marcuswynn89 Right now hypersonic missiles still aren't used militarily. Sure they exist, but the most used weapons right now are slow moving drones and even the more advanced cruise missiles mainly are subsonic and not hypersonic.
What SC lacks of is realism, but not that kind of realism you might think, using most advanced technologies under any circumstance. In reality things happen by reasons and even the US Military scrapped more advanced technologies to go back to older systems, because of logic.
Some of the most advanced weapons technologies are so expensive, that no country on planet owns enough of it, to make it one of their more often used systems. In fact even many missile systems got scraped and replaced by heavy guns.
I agree, that we should have some very advanced missile systems in the game, but then they should be very expensive (like they would be in reality). If you would like to use hypersonic missiles for a realistic price, you can say that one missile can cost from 5-10 percent of what a weapon carrier would cost. So you'd have to pay $15-18 Million per hypersonic missile and that is one reason why it isn't used anywhere on this planet.
To reflect this situation in game, you'd have to pay about 500k aUEC per missile, for the better versions. I'm pretty sure you would be angry as well, if you'd have pay so much per shot - even if you'd have hypersonic missiles in game then.
I guess you'd need to understand what missiles mainly are used for and 130m/s is the lower end of typical cruise missiles, but it is realistic. What we would need, to reflect reality, we need missile speeds, that range from 130m/s to 900m/s. A sidewinder used by the F35 fighters have a max speed of 920m/s (in general they fly much slower) - just to have a comparison. And to make it clear, AIM-9 Sidewinder is a short range missile and just these short range systems are capable of these high speeds. And on top, one missiles costs about $450k, so in game this would mean a price of 15k aUEC per missile to keep it realistic.
The most used cruise missiles right now have a speed of less than 230m/s.
I agree at one point: You should have short ranged missiles that are about the speed of the faster air vehicles. But it has to be cleared how to handle speeds in space and atmosphere, because the fastest vehicles are still slowlier than 600m/s in atmosphere. So this should be the max speed of long range missiles and double the speed for short range missiles (to reflect the higher speeds in space).
@pakabe8774 I didn’t read all that but a quick google search will show you that the AGM-65 A/B is a lot faster than 230m/s
@@marcuswynn89 It has a max speed of 320m/s, that is right, but it is an air to ground, tactical missile with an effective range of 10 miles.
@pakabe8774 agm 88’s are even faster
People often blame CIG marketing for this stuff, but it's time that everyone wakes up to the fact that the whole company needs help.
-Poor product management
-Lack of communication
-Not enough Dev talent
It's becoming a real problem
100%
How the f*ck do they have 805+ employees and make basically no progress year over year? I personally think they're taking backer's money, while selling software "tech" to other companies behind closed doors because they are indebted to major private investors and have to get dirty to turn a profit for them. Investors always expect results, and when you have wealthy private ones, then there's usually consequences when they don't get return on their investment.
Hopefully that kind of makes sense.
I've done quite a bit of research into all their private investors, will probably release a video about it all soon.
Maybe before jumping the gun to hate for no reason, you could check the source? Just maybe? I know it's difficult, but just maybe for once? The devs literally said they TEMPORARILY reduced the missile speeds in order to investigate into another issue, and that they'll be moving them back up in the next patch. You'd know that if you looked before you hated.
Or how about the video was already done before they made a response. Or how about they didn’t know that missiles were causing some sort of “unknown” issue when master modes has been in testing for how long now? Keep snorting that crack copium cig is giving you
@Marcus Wynn - I like watching your content. That being said. If a company does something like development of new tech in a game. Say the slower speeds like torps and missiles. They are probably trying to get in the right speeds for each size and group. Size 10's so fare are the biggest in the game. So they are probably trying to see how fast they want the s10's to travel.
I am pretty sure these changes are not here to stay.
it was a dumb change because early on in the master modes testing you couldn't even lock missiles so i know this was an after thought by cig, they should have done a master modes tech preview to sort all of this out, but they are insistent on shoving crap down our throats and calling it cake
@@marcuswynn89 We are the only ones holding the line between a really bad experience with a game compared to a well fleshed out game with very few bugs and game play issues. I might as well mention so many triple A games out there be EA and Bethesda and cyberpunk. So many promises there and so much Brocken game play and too many players just kept writing these games off.
Your youtube video's will also help make other players aware of CIG's glaring problems and issues they introduce. But I would rather it be done here in Alpha then in a final released game. This is mainly why I am more forgiving. EA would have done this and no one would be the wiser. CIG does not have that option and I am thankful for that because it keeps their mistakes honest and they are forced to make changes.
This all has to do with S 10 torps. So just wait and see. LOL I mean it is not like missiles were anything great to begin with.
It's a shame they didn't THINK to do the tests of missile and torp speeds in a test server; eliminating the stress.
I think what’s happening is we’re going to see maybe 2-3 capital ships in or around 4.0 and they don’t want fighter coming in and missle bombing the capital ships. So dog fighting you’ll use guns majority and missle against large capital ships. The Dominator 2 will be the meta for fighters
Yeah but that would make the Polaris useless because those size tens are going to be around 100 m/s
I've mentioned it to a couple of other content creators, pretty soon it will be turn-based dogfighting!
They will turn into a top down turn based rpg
@DanielFruckinFlower are you mad that I’m not interacting with you?
@@adarkwind4712 It's lost in the same spot as your sense of humor.
Damn bro, YT still holding your pockets? We already know about CIGs bait and switch tactic for ship sales, but that is the more interesting story.
You were aware you can refund any ship within 14 days of purchase paid for real money, weren't you? Sometimes even 30 days. Show CIG how you vote with your wallet. ;)
I used store credit 🥴 but to anyone who purchased ships with real money, ask for a refund
so i no longer need to chafe missiles in my connie with its cool top 1k speed lol
well thy now are reverting things back after testing for a bug, since when does cig test for bugs?
sometimes you have to wonder if CIG thinks this shit out first.
P.S. You forgot the Andromeda... still a cool ship but with its missiles neutered, it's less cool.
They are always putting our balls on the chopping block
they said it was just for testing something, they'll revert the changes on the following patch. It'll be a very good thing if they had come up and said beforehand they were doing that for testing something specific tho
they also said after the 3.18 wipe we would get our ships back too
I was quite taken aback when I saw the patchnote showing the vastly reduced missile speeds. CIG have since then stated the speeds are going back up again, to the point where torps will be around 500m/s but it still strikes me as a very odd change that just overall still causes the problems you speak about in your video here. I wonder what they're going to do.
They’ll do another ship sale
10% reduction is "vastly reduced" ?'
@@FreebirthBoccara those cry baby will complaing and bitch about every things, nothing new.
@@FreebirthBoccara 250m/s down to 130m/s was not a 10% reduction, but it doesn't matter any more since those numbers have already been scrapped.
@@Benco97 its not been "scrapped" it was never meant to be permanent in the first place.
sad but very true
Missiles should be almost inavoidable. I am sure they will balance it over time. Missiles in my opinion never helped me in fights.
Missiles help if you are in a group fight
So they upper the turret size on the polaris then nerfed the torpedo speed
At those speeds the only legit targets are reclaimers trying to leave atmo
i think a reclaimer can even get away
Have you got a new mic? Something is different in your recording
I did get a slightly better mic
@@marcuswynn89 I could hear instantly. Much better top end. You could use some upwards compression on the mids and get a great sound out of that
@1337murk yeah I have been testing different settings with it
@@marcuswynn89 Dope. I feel like trying to guess which mic you have lol
I don't play combat much, but I've seen how new ships get nerfed after sales taper off. That seems to be the rule. It is frustrating. So I play non combat roles for now.
My Corsair seems to be taking a beating these days, probably I am not used to master modes but it seems less effective. Could be the other side is stronger.
This reminds me a lot of War Thunder, with the marketing strategy. Sell a strong/good ship and nerf it after the sales go down. Either balance the game while adding vehicles or when everything is added (which is completly undoable with the amount of backlogg and ongoing changes)
cool. except your completley wrong. it was a temporary change to find th cause of an issue. and has already been changed back.. it wasnt "a marketing strategy"
This is definitely some CIG bullshit, but I'm actually hearing it was a temporary patch for PTU. I hope that is correct, because I was thinking exactly the same thing you are in this video.
You comments trying to rally the community at the end are futile, in my opinion. The Star Citizen "community" is either extremely mindwashed, in-general, or is propped up by Chinese bots from their latest market. Either way, if you try to speak anything critical of the game on Reddit or Spectrum, the CIG simp mob attacks like wild animals.
they are brainwashed look at the comments
I understand the frustration for sure and I don't like the sales tactics. However when it comes to changes like this I am in wait and see mode.
Admittedly I am not nearly as active in SC as you are so I am not impacted as much as you. To be clear the main reason I am not as active is because I'm avoiding the frustration by not focusing on the moment by moment thrashing. It's better for my mental health. It's nice outside time for me to go on a nice walk away from the PC and SC.
Haven’t played in a few days gonna wait for the xenothreat event to end
Classic CIG, and possibly, they`ll buff the speeds as soon as a new Torpedo Ship gets released to increase sales.
The change was to test a problem or something not a permanent change
@@blaqbastion1501 why bring in actual facts and logic to reactionary hatred
@blaqbastion1501 right? It's like we're testing an alpha or something. 😄
What game is he talking about?
They are testing. This is not final at all
Nothing is ever final it’s how they continuously string people along
@@marcuswynn89 I always say this, the game we play now is not Star Citizen. But slowly the game takes shape. That they want to improve systems and iterate is a good sign in a live product
Looking at the new missile statistics. It seems like Star Citizens is trying to balance these missile for atmosphere. But not optimised for space. They have made the missile slow enough so small ship can get away. and bigger ships have shields to protect themselves. capital ships have shields to protect themselves because they are slow. An torpedoes are supposed to be at least 2 or 3 as slower missile. But it will get better. Size 10 torpedoes will do massive energy damage. 2 shields. So laser repeaters etc can go directly to the whole quicker. Without deterioration. That is my theory. in time they will sort out space. (And gravity, which is not in the game yet.)
This isnot permanent and it has already beeen changed stop crying for god sake...
for the 888th time i posted this before the update came out, i can't help if you viewed it after the update.
Have some cheese with your whine.
I’m lactose intolerant fool
Have the Polaris , but used store credits. If it sucks just now , not bothered as not bothering to log in till game makes significntly more progess. Having pent £3000 on the game. not gonna spend another penny.
Don’t blame you
Just a reminder that with Master Modes, an Arrow is just a Warden with way less HP and firepower
and more maneuverability.. and is faster.. and.. isn't at all like a warden?
Imagine crying so hard you have to make a premature video about a change to the game when it’s still just alpha. People melting their polaris over a change that could be changed again even if it was intentional
Imagine ignoring a warning I said in the beginning of the video
@@marcuswynn89 Imagine releasing the video knowing the information is outdated and clickbaity af.
@Gnarfendorf imagine not knowing this video was released before the update came out and still commenting on this video
@@marcuswynn89 Yeah, keep telling yourself that youre not at fault for releasing a premature rant with outdated info to prove a point that we all already know while you act like an ass in the comment section. And i though Avenger One was an asshole, here i found an even worse creator in the sc sphere. Well done sir, i applaud your commitment.
Okay why are you still here commenting?
now they said its just a test. i guess they see the huge NOOOOOOOO from players so now at last say it its just a test, will see its really just a test or they lie. but after modules sell only for real money im not suprised
Yeah all of a sudden it’s a test right and that’s the point that people missed
Damn this didn’t age well
It’s doing just fine you’re here
To be fair 9-10 times they do this and it’s not a day or so test patch i completely understand the frustration..I have a few missile boats and. Polaris I was a little tilted that day too
@Operatorkitty only s9 torps got change to 514 m/s everything else is the same
@@marcuswynn89 damn I thought they reverted them all back
@Operatorkitty lol nope, I’m not going to say anything else about it though I’m going to let these people who have a nose full of copium figure it out the hard way
Damn the amount of drama over nothing is insane. Grow up.
if you don't shut yo fox in a naturo suit anime profile picture ass up bruh
why is this so maliciously worded. this is a temporary change in an effort to fix a bug. they have been open about this its not some conspiracy you don't need to look deeper into shit to criticize star citizens monetization methods its not that hard.
I said nothing malicious stop being soft
@@marcuswynn89 your spreading miss information, so yes its malicious. you could have just gone to spectrum to see whats actually going on and reported on it without making it seem like CIG its trying to screw you instead of trying to fix the dam game.
The amount of hysteria is insane these last days. I am having a hard time believing people actually believe that cig intends to keep these missile speeds. Is it not obviously for testing purposes?
We need more critical thinkers not reactors. Please people… think before you do.
Then create your own channel since you’re such a critical thinker, I bet you won’t
Polaris 😭
Already cooked bro
oh man stop wining
no one is whining lmao
Lol there are always the rage baiting youtubers that cant wait to have a knee jerk reaction to every single change that happens. This was clearly just a test to figure out missiles, we shouldnt have even needed a dev response to figure that out. Welcome to alpha, where things constantly change and balance doesnt matter. Get a life
Get a life says the guy who came to write out an entire paragraph as a response.
@@marcuswynn89 good English 😂
@@marcuswynn89 ah you fixed your broken English, I can now understand wtf you were trying to say. Was that paragraph difficult for you to read? Did you need to lie down after?
@JamestheKilljoy it wasn’t difficult, you just want someone to argue with. Go outside touch some grass.
@@marcuswynn89 no u
just was some tests on the ptu server. People are getting mad for nothing. Its an alpha, things gonna change constantly. Just chill and stop doing shitty content
Did you tell other creators that or just me?
@@marcuswynn89 some more too, chill :)
The missile changes are permanent though
just a disclaimer you wont like this marcus so dont start crying to me about it ok. your whole argument of nurfing missiles due to the firebird coming out then is stupid, if that was the case why didnt they do it for any of the other missile boats. the simple fact is they made the change to try and solve an issue they caused by introducing master modes where as if someone engauged you in pvp you had no chance to get away, so they brought in as a "test" these stupid missile speeds. imo this wasnt a test they had all intention to keep them as a balance change.
No matter what way you try and slice this to simp for your overlords at cig the “test” was stupid how long has master modes been in testing? You’re telling me it took them this long to figure out a problem? Y’all are smoking crack, missiles barely worked in master modes testing in arena commander before they forced us to switch to this flight model. “Test” yeah sure believe it if it helps you sleep better at night
@@marcuswynn89 are you retarded? i was agreeing with you that this "test" was stupid. how about you adjust your intake of estrogen so your not as emotional. with the exception of one thing i agreed with you, so if im a simp for cig then so are you.
take a step back and get help ffs lol you have the emotional control of a 12 yr old girl.
@marcuswynn89 OK, so on my phone, it looks like you deleted the previous messages, including the one where I pointed out that i agree with you. You really are an idiot.
Ahh more complaining, thank you
you must be a cig simp
master modes is so trash. They've wasted so much time on it. They're just too embarrassed now to just revert so they'll keep doubling down and bitching at people calling it out.
The worst part is the cig stans that will cope with every change that cig makes it’s almost as if they have Stockholm syndrome but for game development
@@marcuswynn89 Yeah all i ever here is " its here to stay, just adapt" and im like fuck that, i'm going to keep bitching at them until they fix what they broke. I don't care if the devs have to deal with mean tweets, when they do something this stupid they should hear about it.
@thomasknight5465 the biggest cope is this mysterious bug fix, oh you haven’t fixed the F8 cockpit? The prospect can take an extreme amount of damage? The F7A has crazy speed. Ursa rover falling through planets? Nah let’s play with missile speed to try and solve an issue no one knows nothing about
@@marcuswynn89 lol It's because they fucked so much up with mastermodes that now they have to double down and extra fix everything else to make up for it. Eventually they'll be like ... now we need to change server meshing to account for all the bullshit. They'll start screwing around with walk and run speeds etc lol. they should just revert and work on ground vehicles not bouncing everywhere.
U sure this isn’t a bug?