Fireside Chat with Condoleezza Rice and Robert M. Gates

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • Robert M. Gates, Partner, Rice, Hadley, Gates and Manuel; 22nd U.S. Secretary of Defense, U.S. Department of Defense
    Condoleezza Rice, Co-Chair, Aspen Strategy Group; 66th U.S. Secretary of State, U.S. Department of State
    Moderator: David Sanger, White House and National Security Correspondent, The New York Times
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 57

  • @stevehumphrey8626
    @stevehumphrey8626 Місяць тому +10

    What a wonderful, thoughtful and deep discussion. Gives me hope that we are getting a better understanding of the changes happening in the world.

    • @gavinmc5285
      @gavinmc5285 Місяць тому

      What about China?

    • @Rastetah8472
      @Rastetah8472 4 дні тому

      We need Condoleeza to step up and save us by becoming our next president.

  • @WAKirsten
    @WAKirsten Місяць тому +3

    Condoleeza Rice brings so much fact and analysis of history & what it means for the US as a nation & the world, prospering for America & all peoples in the world.

    • @JM-if1mo
      @JM-if1mo Місяць тому

      Her comment about not letting Russia past Ukraine is wrong. Russia can't have Ukraine. She also messed up the Iraq war.

    • @gavinmc5285
      @gavinmc5285 Місяць тому

      🇹🇼 ('the easy mark'): reverse charge, collect call, do you wish to hold for operator assistance?

    • @Rastetah8472
      @Rastetah8472 4 дні тому

      And people actually believe Kamala can do that😮😮😮😮😮😮

  • @paulgilliland2992
    @paulgilliland2992 Місяць тому +4

    Definitely two of the best security and diplomatic minds in the history of these posts. I read both biographies and Gates especially was so interesting.

    • @gavinmc5285
      @gavinmc5285 Місяць тому

      Check Gates: Widows 95xp

  • @michaeljiang960
    @michaeljiang960 Місяць тому +9

    rice and gates still live in the cold war age.

    • @tongwu4667
      @tongwu4667 Місяць тому

      rice is a Russian expert.

    • @siamcharm7904
      @siamcharm7904 Місяць тому +4

      none of the three has any real knowledge of todays china.

    • @siamcharm7904
      @siamcharm7904 Місяць тому +1

      both guests are lying about russia and ignoring the facts in the relationship. both sound like dyed in the wool neocons.

    • @JM-if1mo
      @JM-if1mo Місяць тому +1

      @@tongwu4667 Her comment about not letting Russia past Ukraine is wrong. Russia can't have Ukraine. She also messed up the Iraq war.

    • @gavinmc5285
      @gavinmc5285 Місяць тому

      🍚🪟

  • @foodbytheword6262
    @foodbytheword6262 Місяць тому +4

    Very informative insights!

  • @yeejlilys9742
    @yeejlilys9742 Місяць тому +4

    "We lied, we cheated, and we stole."

    • @gavinmc5285
      @gavinmc5285 Місяць тому

      Gotta win over Communism somehow

  • @elylester1178
    @elylester1178 Місяць тому +3

    Interviewer: So who is responsible for the West's failure to deter Putin? American interviewee from either party: Points away from self.

  • @snathan3198
    @snathan3198 Місяць тому +2

    Victoria Nuland? $5 billion?

  • @wma2140
    @wma2140 Місяць тому +1

    I didn’t appreciate Sanger’s snide remark about Biden not telling the public the plan to put a wedge between Russia and the PRC. And Sanger’s inappropriate criticism of Biden’s nuanced answer to his question because Biden had to put it in context. Sanger, part of the DC establishment, has been seized by the current Biden bashing.

    • @imtryinghere1
      @imtryinghere1 Місяць тому

      Biden has had two left feet in politics, security and foreign affairs. He has a 50 year track record of some weird and wrong calls. It's not about today or Trump.

  • @milicadjukich4416
    @milicadjukich4416 Місяць тому +1

    If she ran fir president she would awesome

    • @Rastetah8472
      @Rastetah8472 4 дні тому

      We need her more than we need to expand Ai.

    • @milicadjukich4416
      @milicadjukich4416 3 дні тому

      @@Rastetah8472 TRUE, I KNOW SHE WAS GREAT

  • @user-xr5wy3gj5m
    @user-xr5wy3gj5m Місяць тому +2

    Getting cozy with war criminals. Cute.

    • @gavinmc5285
      @gavinmc5285 Місяць тому +1

      A small world, a Cold War, oh, and by the way: terror.

  • @felixf.3392
    @felixf.3392 Місяць тому +2

    Why were the USA so successful in the Cold War?
    They implemented the Marshall Plan to economically strengthen their partners in Europe.
    The USA was the largest economy and opened its market to the products of its allies.
    The USA offered its allies a security umbrella with nuclear deterrence through NATO.
    This enabled America to push back the influence of the Soviet Union on Europe and ultimately win the Cold War.
    The alliance between Western Europe and the USA is difficult today.
    Germany, for example, follows a mercantilist economic model and is therefore dependent on cheap energy and large growth markets.
    Russia and China can offer both to Western Europe like no other country.
    The USA, on the other hand, is becoming increasingly less important as an economic partner.
    And since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Western Europe no longer faces a serious military threat from Russia.
    Nevertheless, tens of thousands of American soldiers are still stationed in hundreds of US military bases and US nuclear weapons are on German soil.
    If you look at the situation objectively from the US perspective, America is protecting Europe from the countries with which it has close trade relations.
    However, Europe's core interest is to further develop its economic relations with the US's biggest competitors.
    Do not be blinded by the rhetoric of politicians.
    Feelings, shared history, values, culture and traditions play no role at all in whether alliances really work.
    What matters is whether interests coincide.
    And it turns out that today the interests of Europe and the US are no longer compatible and this partnership will soon end.

    • @gavinmc5285
      @gavinmc5285 Місяць тому

      The ideogical infrastructure folded with restructuring. The physical infrastructure collapsed with openness.
      So:
      1. Failure to adapt;
      2. Inability to not desecret.
      65 years (1922 - 1987) is a fairly standard retirement age as global standards go.

    • @markaja2
      @markaja2 Місяць тому

      The USA had low collateral damage from WWII, rapid advancements in technology due to government research, used military might to leverage better deals in raw materials from other countries, had good trade relations with allies, and developed super specialization. I think what gets overlooked is the optimistic belief in a meritocracy and the population pyramid supported the fiat money system.

    • @markaja2
      @markaja2 Місяць тому

      You’re naive if you believe there weren’t under the table quid pro quo deals between the USA and European countries because of our disproportionate contributions to NATO. The issue is that those deals have a tendency to let corruption grow.

  • @PlaydoughPlato
    @PlaydoughPlato Місяць тому

    Fireside meaning next to the world they helped burn

  • @susworld129
    @susworld129 Місяць тому +1

    Aren't Ukrainians russians in the same way Texans are Americans? My capital "r" isn't working.

    • @markaja2
      @markaja2 Місяць тому

      Your comment is sus

    • @Rastetah8472
      @Rastetah8472 3 дні тому

      Yes, and many have alluded to the possibility that we may have been had.😮😮😮😮

  • @peterabild1123
    @peterabild1123 Місяць тому

    Interesting

  • @FrankieDaBat
    @FrankieDaBat Місяць тому

    When was this taped?

  • @antonyfrancis3247
    @antonyfrancis3247 Місяць тому +3

    Robert Gates behaved like a schoolboy, sniggering at Putin's speech during the 2008 Munich security meet in Germany. Grow up kiddo!

    • @gavinmc5285
      @gavinmc5285 Місяць тому

      If you can't keep a sense of humor at that level you'd probably end up a psychopath

    • @antonyfrancis3247
      @antonyfrancis3247 Місяць тому

      @@gavinmc5285 yes, psychopaths are busy committing genocide in Ukraine and Gaza without sending in their SONS and DAUGHTERS into battle. Afraid ?

  • @sarahjenkins7064
    @sarahjenkins7064 25 днів тому

    The war mongers have spoken.

    • @Rastetah8472
      @Rastetah8472 4 дні тому

      My question is, why help save these little countries who can't save themselves, without requiring them to become American? When we leave them, they just get assaulted again and we waste more money. As trump said,"No pay, no protection,"...is the best way. BUT as we did with Guam, we need to do with Ukrainian affairs.

  • @gavinmc5285
    @gavinmc5285 Місяць тому

    🇮🇶🇱🇾/🔚♟
    🇨🇳@60%? Can the Civilization afford to 'lose' 300m?
    On what aims would you sacrifice Communism with Chinese characteristics for?
    PRC
    Assertive
    Brittle
    Chinese
    Can't forget Hollywood too (exports)