Six Hours to Save Democracy

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
  • What if the threat to American democracy came from within our own military? “War Game,” a 2024 Sundance Official Selection documentary, imagined just such a scenario and convened a bipartisan group of policymakers to respond. What did they learn - and how real is the threat?
    Janessa Goldbeck
    Heidi Heitkamp
    Mary Louise Kelly
    Linda Singh
    Now in its 20th year, the Aspen Ideas Festival is the Aspen Institute’s signature summer public event. From June 23-June 29, 2024 more than 300 leaders and innovators gather in the Rocky Mountains to engage in deep and inquisitive discussion of the issues that shape our lives and challenge our times, spanning politics, business, science, the arts, education, and more. #AspenIdeas
    For more information about the Aspen Ideas Festival, visit www.aspenideas....

КОМЕНТАРІ • 115

  • @MichaelKomlo
    @MichaelKomlo 2 місяці тому +22

    Incredible panel and film and fore thought! Grateful for these women and men who serve and care about our country!

    • @jennetal.984
      @jennetal.984 2 місяці тому

      which one on the panel is a man?

  • @kaceykelly7222
    @kaceykelly7222 2 місяці тому +21

    With our massive military budget, we should be more than ready for this. Instead, we find out we have trained those who will try to kill us 😢

    • @user-tc4tz8ww1z
      @user-tc4tz8ww1z 2 місяці тому +4

      "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
      -Marcus Tulius Cicero

  • @m.d.grimes1622
    @m.d.grimes1622 2 місяці тому +29

    Very interesting and very scary, vote blue no matter who.

  • @YouMessiah
    @YouMessiah 2 місяці тому +25

    What a wonderful discussion! So why are there so few views?

    • @viktoriapeterson489
      @viktoriapeterson489 2 місяці тому +1

      Ostrich syndrome

    • @DottieStanley
      @DottieStanley 2 місяці тому

      Share it with your family and friends. Use email or Facebook! We need to help it go viral!

    • @cinziam457
      @cinziam457 2 місяці тому +1

      Because the masses aren't interested nor that bright.

    • @pohkeee
      @pohkeee 2 місяці тому

      Because just like the Germans of the 1930s, we don’t want to see what’s in front of us!

  • @ellentroyer6361
    @ellentroyer6361 2 місяці тому +4

    I am a major fan of the Aspen Ideas Festival and make a point of watching as many talks as I can.This is one of the 2024 very important ones, in my opinion, I just shared it on Facebook, as well as others on the Clinate Crisis, and the economy. I am also emailing this link to my family and close friends. Thank you to everyone involved with this film and warning. Ellen Troyer

  • @shyamchaudhri
    @shyamchaudhri 2 місяці тому +15

    Chilling!

  • @dominique217
    @dominique217 2 місяці тому +7

    I'm an internal optimist, but I also own many. A failure to plan is a plan to fail.

  • @variyasalo2581
    @variyasalo2581 2 місяці тому +3

    As retired military, and former J23, I'm glad to see a Jan 6 war game. Hopefully, it becomes annual.

  • @sonnenschein4711
    @sonnenschein4711 2 місяці тому +6

    Let’s hope for all of us. This scenario is so frightening and so sad.

  • @CM-dw2xr
    @CM-dw2xr 25 днів тому +1

    Putting it on youtube is a great way to get it out to lots of people!!

  • @WW3_Historian
    @WW3_Historian 2 місяці тому +19

    In reading Liz Chenney's book, I was shocked at how close Jan 6th came to working, or at least being much worse. Looking forward to seeing this film.

    • @fredgarvinMP
      @fredgarvinMP 2 місяці тому +1

      If only they didn't forget to bring weapons...

    • @skyboy1956
      @skyboy1956 Місяць тому

      @@fredgarvinMP many times in history entire countries have been overthrown by waving flags . . .

  • @PhilipWong55
    @PhilipWong55 2 місяці тому +10

    The world's richest country with the most expensive military is enjoying these benefits of their democracy: Economic inequality, inflation, stagnant real wages for the last fifty years, costly healthcare, an expensive education system, student loan debt totaling $1.7 trillion with an average balance of $38,000, poor public transportation systems, racial inequality, mass incarceration, the militarization of police, deteriorating infrastructure, housing affordability, homelessness, the opioid epidemic, and gun violence.
    The 'Arsenal of Democracy' produces 40 percent of the world's weapons. It is a very profitable business model in which other countries buy these weapons to fight each other. The key is maximizing profits without shedding US blood by inducing conflicts between and within countries outside the USA. One client is eager to spend AUD 368 billion to buy a few high-quality used nuclear-powered submarines. This business model's critical components are NATO, QUAD, ANZUS, Five Eyes, AUKUS, and MCC (Mutual Cross-Service Agreement).
    Since WWII, the United States has started 201 wars, overthrew 36 foreign leaders, killed or attempted to kill 50, dropped bombs in 30 countries, and interfered in 86 foreign elections. To make the world safe for democracy, the US has caused the deaths of tens of millions of people in its conflicts in Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria. The CIA was involved in covert operations that resulted in mass killings of communists in over 22 countries, 500,000 to 2,000,000 Indonesian civilians disappeared in 1965-1966.
    Anywhere in the world, if there is a border dispute, it is usually the result of a line drawn by an Englishman; if it is an internal dispute, it is usually the US fueling it. Difference in implementation of divide and conquer strategy.

    • @PFat1
      @PFat1 2 місяці тому

      housing INaffordability, I believe is what you mean.

    • @cilla5277
      @cilla5277 2 місяці тому +1

      Its a disgrace .

    • @terrytrowbridge2730
      @terrytrowbridge2730 2 місяці тому

      And the alternative is communism or autocracy? So one leader with real possible evil intent who when someone doesn't agree with them or challenges them can decide to rid the earth of anyone at their will, and force their own set of rules and laws on everyone. The problem with the people in this country is wanting someone else to do the work while they sit back and complain. They don't have to bother knowing much at all about the people they're putting in charge. FROM SCHOOL BOARD ON UP TO THE HIGEST OFFICE IN THE LAND. Not getting rid of them when they aren't doing their jobs that benefit the majority of their constituents, instead of just a powerful few. They just keep reelecting them. Instead of holding the guilty accountable. Forcing term limits on everyone. So many things that most Americans don't even bother with knowing anything about beyond what some jack in the box tells them and then have child like belief in what they're told more so than toward the very religion they claim to identify with. We have set our own selves up for a terrorist take over. From within our own borders. Not anyone from the outside. This very shit has gone on in other countries but do you think most Americans have a clue of what goes on inside their own states government much less any where else. Until we start owning our own stupidity then blaming democracy is just another way of holding something else accountable for flunking your exam, when you're the one who didn't study.

    • @beehappyalways
      @beehappyalways 2 місяці тому +5

      America is not perfect. However, a good portion of your listed issues are still there, because of one particular political party, that fights against any forward movement to solve those problems. It’s about one group of Americans that wants to progress forward, and solve problems to move toward a more perfect union, and one that wishes to go backwards to punishment, revenge, and judgements of others, whom they deem unlike them, and/or undeserving.

    • @imacmill
      @imacmill Місяць тому

      ​@@beehappyalwaysAnd each party points their finger at the other as the perps.

  • @LBB2622
    @LBB2622 2 місяці тому +4

    Shouldn’t anyone who takes an oath to the United States be non partisan? Do they not serve everyone in the United States?
    It’s pretty scary to think that the military would revolt like this? My dad served in the military and he would be shocked to think this could be possible.
    How did this all go so terribly wrong? These public servants can obviously vote whatever way they like but once they put on the uniform, judges robe or congressional pin, they should check personal bias at the door and do what is best for all. I know our current President does, but pretty sure the previous guy did not!

  • @laurawoodford1225
    @laurawoodford1225 2 місяці тому +3

    So now the president will be immune if he abuses this as well

  • @H.O.P.E.1122
    @H.O.P.E.1122 Місяць тому

    Excellent moderator. Powerful and pertinent panelists.

  • @davidparnell1893
    @davidparnell1893 2 місяці тому +4

    So you have identified the nature of the Heritage Foundation. So, who are they? How many are they?
    who are their allies in ths conspiracy? Same questions: who are they and where are they? Organizational Design and biographical analysis.

  • @kcbowman4042
    @kcbowman4042 2 місяці тому +2

    excellent presentation. and thanks to NPR and vote vets!

  • @RexJordan-s8x
    @RexJordan-s8x 2 місяці тому +3

    Thank you

  • @CherriesJubilee
    @CherriesJubilee 2 місяці тому +2

    I am also an eternal optimist and will defend myself if necessary. We must ask our governor sand the commanders of the bases in our state what they are preparing for. The "disruptors" can make many, many mistakes and still do a lot of damage. The defenders only have to make one significant mistake, which could spell disaster for people. Even if they can't tell us anything for security reasons, they will know that the public is aware and they will have to answer to history if they make the wrong call.

  • @weredragon1447
    @weredragon1447 2 місяці тому +13

    Yesterday, on the 4th of July, a truck covered in Trump flags attempted to pull into each of the driveways in our neighborhood for unknown reasons. Our neighbors weren't home, and they had gates. He couldn't access their property. We saw him before he reached our house, and my housemate (who is a white male) confronted him, and he left without further confrontation.
    We live in a rural community in Western Washington State. A so-called "blue" state. Don't take your safety for granted, no matter where you live. No matter who you are. They are emboldened by the belief that the orange man will win, and they are dangerous.

    • @fredgarvinMP
      @fredgarvinMP 2 місяці тому +1

      _huge eyeroll_

    • @dominique217
      @dominique217 2 місяці тому +4

      The guy driving the truck...>​@@fredgarvinMP

    • @fredgarvinMP
      @fredgarvinMP 2 місяці тому

      @@dominique217 ⬅️ Long TDS

    • @dominique217
      @dominique217 2 місяці тому +2

      @@fredgarvinMP < Long on stupidity.

    • @weredragon1447
      @weredragon1447 2 місяці тому +2

      @fredgarvinMP honest question: why was he driving into the driveways of random strangers? If Trump supporters are all about rights and freedoms, why didn't he respect our property and stay off it? What right did he have to trespass? Why was he doing it?

  • @212sweetpea
    @212sweetpea 2 місяці тому +1

    This definitely could happen. It is very scary, thank goodness I have guns too. Thanks Aspen Ideas for this.
    True blue 💙
    Democrat 4 Life

  • @clareomarfran
    @clareomarfran 2 місяці тому +2

    It appears that we are as strong as our weakest link. Up to Trump, it was taken as a given that anyone elevated to the job of president would act in good faith. Even Nixon didn't deny reality.

  • @JohnABurdge-sb8yp
    @JohnABurdge-sb8yp 23 дні тому

    This makes me feel so much better that someone is more than thinking ahead this time.

  • @detectiveofmoneypolitics
    @detectiveofmoneypolitics Місяць тому

    Detective of Money Politics is following this very compelling content cheers VK3GFS and 73s Frank

  • @douglaw43
    @douglaw43 2 місяці тому +1

    Obviously you are not ready. Ugly is coming your way and the Supreme Court is on their side.

  • @karenrandall6725
    @karenrandall6725 2 місяці тому

    Definitely scared, not that I have not been somewhat anxious. Thank you for your service and this video.

  • @marablemorgan8292
    @marablemorgan8292 2 місяці тому +1

    Please give me ways to push this forward!!! On an individual level, how can I do something in the best way possible!?!

    • @DottieStanley
      @DottieStanley 2 місяці тому

      Click on the share symbol above. Share it via email, Facebook and other offers once you click on share. We need to make it go VIRAL!

  • @vladdumitrica849
    @vladdumitrica849 2 місяці тому +3

    Democracy is when those who make decisions on your behalf have the duty to ask for your consent first. Today's republics are actually modern oligarchies where the interest groups of the rich are arbitrated by the people, that is, you can choose from which table of the rich you will receive crumbs.
    The "fatigue" of democracy occurs when there is a big difference between the interests of the elected and the voters, thus people lose confidence in the way society functions. As a result, poor and desperate citizens will vote with whoever promises them a lifeline, i.e. populists or demagogues.
    The democratic aspect is a collateral effect in societies where the economy has a strong competitive aspect, that is, the interests of those who hold the economic power in society are divergent. Thus those whealty, and implicitly with political power in society, supervise each other so that none of them have undeserved advantages due to politics. For this reason, countries where mineral resources have an important weight in GDP are not democratic (Russia, Venezuela, etc.), because a small group of people can exploit these resources in their own interest. In poor countries (Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, etc.) the main exploited resource may even be the state budget, as they have convergent interests in benefiting, in their own interest, from this resource. It is easy to see if it is an oligarchy because in a true democracy laws would not be passed that would not be in the interest of the many.
    The first modern oligarchy appeared in England at the end of the 17th century. After the bourgeois revolution led by Cromwell succeeded, the interest groups of the rich were unable to agree on how to divide their political power in order not to reach the dictatorship of one. The solution was to appoint a king to be the arbiter. In republics, the people are the arbiter, but let's not confuse the possibility of choosing which group will govern you with democracy, that is, with the possibility of citizens deciding which laws to pass and which not to.
    The solution is modern direct democracy in which every citizen can vote, whenever he wants, over the head of the parliamentarian who represents him. He can even dismiss him if the majority of his voters consider that he does not correctly represent their interests.
    It's like when you have to build a house and you choose the site manager and the architect, but they don't have the duty to consult with you. The house will certainly not look the way you want it, but the way they want it, and it is more certain that you will be left with the money given and without the house. It is strange that outside of the political sphere, nowhere, in any economic or sports activity, will you find someone elected to a leadership position and who has failure after failure and is fired only after 4 years. We, the voters, must be consulted about the decisions and if they have negative effects we can dismiss them at any time, let's not wait for the soroco to be fulfilled, because we pay, not them. In any company, the management team comes up with a plan approved by the shareholders. Any change in this plan must be re-approved by the shareholders and it is normal because the shareholders pay.

  • @JesseHartmanGooglePlus
    @JesseHartmanGooglePlus 2 місяці тому +1

    How/where can I watch the movie when it comes out?

    • @MontanaBlue-sbw
      @MontanaBlue-sbw Місяць тому

      The website wargamefilm says the film will be available in selected theatres on 2 August’24.

  • @SeamusEnigma
    @SeamusEnigma 2 місяці тому +2

    How can I see this movie?

  • @janicebrowningaquino792
    @janicebrowningaquino792 2 місяці тому

    Until this country becomes sane again. I will never consider any Election Day to be a process that is safe.

  • @philipwoodgate9555
    @philipwoodgate9555 2 місяці тому +1

    one question never asked generally, why has the right become so extreme ?

    • @janari64
      @janari64 Місяць тому

      here are some thoughts:
      1. "real" people are those like "us" (and the number of such people is decreasing)
      2. the rules for a certain way of life are changing, which causes uncertainty in the "we" group
      3. attempts to correct the "problems" become more and more aggressive
      The right strongly identifies with the nation, and sees it in analogy with the family, the feelings are very emphasized.

  • @janicebrowningaquino792
    @janicebrowningaquino792 2 місяці тому

    Excellent!

  • @lynnstone6998
    @lynnstone6998 2 місяці тому

    Thank you.

  • @susanbassett1192
    @susanbassett1192 2 місяці тому +4

    Kent State? Wasn't that the National Guard...?

  • @vKarl71
    @vKarl71 2 місяці тому

    Answers to the question: "How real a possibility do you think this is?" at 32:52 Most informed answer: 36:42

  • @kennysartwork5827
    @kennysartwork5827 23 дні тому +1

    40:42 "governors not calling out the national guard" you mean like Gov Tim Walz during the BLM riots calling the guard on domestic terrorists called BLM rioters ?

    • @Willie5000
      @Willie5000 9 днів тому

      Because they weren't rioters, they were protestors.

    • @lalequanlevonquandrandra5079
      @lalequanlevonquandrandra5079 7 днів тому

      @@Willie5000 They were burning city blocks my man Willie. 19 people DIED during the BLM riots.

    • @Willie5000
      @Willie5000 6 днів тому

      @@lalequanlevonquandrandra5079 Yeah, after the cops started firing tear gas.

  • @kennysartwork5827
    @kennysartwork5827 26 днів тому

    My questions to you is ... what will happen Jan 6th when Trump's electoral college votes are ratified or not ....not unlike 2017 and the democrats refused to ratify Trump? and riots in Washington D.C. downtown 20217

  • @az55544
    @az55544 2 місяці тому +3

    Yeah, but who trusts the governor of Florida FFS?

  • @user-ct9xz2gf6x
    @user-ct9xz2gf6x 2 місяці тому +4

    Scary and could come true. So vote blue no matter who.

  • @RM-xf9gi
    @RM-xf9gi 2 місяці тому

    Where can we watch this movie?

  • @fredgarvinMP
    @fredgarvinMP 2 місяці тому +4

    Whats the difference between a cow and January 6th?
    You can't milk a cow for four years.

  • @variyasalo2581
    @variyasalo2581 2 місяці тому

    Ms. J- miss your dog.

  • @rf4969
    @rf4969 2 місяці тому

    30:05 pay attention!

  • @viktoriapeterson489
    @viktoriapeterson489 2 місяці тому

    This is possible! Vote Blue from Biden on down! I sent this YT vid to 4 friends

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 2 місяці тому

    Looking at corruption from the wrong end?, like Lord Nelson at Trafalgar.

  • @JKbreath
    @JKbreath 2 місяці тому +1

    This is propaganda

  • @jennetal.984
    @jennetal.984 2 місяці тому +1

    Am I the only person here who thinks Biden didn't legitimately win in 2020?

    • @user-nf9qe3bm1i
      @user-nf9qe3bm1i 2 місяці тому +6

      Yes! Millions of people voted for him & the votes in each state were counted more than once when there was doubt!!!

  • @jillfeatherman5523
    @jillfeatherman5523 2 місяці тому

    Why is Senator at the end just assuming that Biden is going to win?

  • @Tunick1902
    @Tunick1902 2 місяці тому

    Mary Louise Kelly is crappy

  • @fredgarvinMP
    @fredgarvinMP 2 місяці тому +1

    Vote Trump for world peace and free speech!

    • @dominique217
      @dominique217 2 місяці тому +1

      🤣 Thanks for stopping in, John.

    • @fredgarvinMP
      @fredgarvinMP 2 місяці тому

      @@dominique217 Thank you! It's Fred, btw.

    • @dominique217
      @dominique217 2 місяці тому

      @@fredgarvinMP Yeah, no. You're working overtime for the fugitive from FL doing Putin's bidding. But that's cool. 🤙🏾

    • @PFat1
      @PFat1 2 місяці тому +3

      @@fredgarvinMP Yes, 'Fred", as in Flintstone.

    • @fredgarvinMP
      @fredgarvinMP 2 місяці тому

      @@PFat1 badum-TSS! You'll be here all week. Tip your waitress!

  • @jillfeatherman5523
    @jillfeatherman5523 2 місяці тому +2

    Wow….the beltway has lost their minds. And they accuse others of being in a cult.🫨