First look at the ERCO Ercoupe 415C in Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2023
- Today we take the ERCO Ercoupe 415C for a flight from D83 Boonville in Microsoft Flight Simulator - a "test flight" of sorts. The 415C is famous for being "un-spinnable", and I can believe that after flying it for a short time.
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Jonathan, I owned an Ercoupe and the absence of rudders will not let you perform a sideslip. If you're too high on approach, you pull up the nose and the airplane will slow down as well as increase its vertical speed. The beauty of this aircraft is that it will not spin, which means that you can bring it to an almost stall without the risk of spinning it.
That's an interesting technique. As far as I understand, some models had rudders - some didn't.
@@jonbeckett The rudders became a "mod" for those pilots who simply could not envision flying a rudderless aircraft. As to my experience with the plane, when on a very high approach, my pulling up the nose would make the plane come down more like a butterfly due to its inability to have rudders turn away from the ailerons, thus no fear of stalling at low altitude. In my opinion, it's the best plane for weekend flyers, given its "convertible" and side by side seating. At 80 mph, I would lower the windows and "drive" it like my convertible car in and out of puffy clouds . In strong crosswinds, the challenge is to keep it on the runway until you have sufficient airspeed to achieve safe lift and enough clearance between your wings and runway to turn into the wind. Failure to do this would push the aircraft off the runway, and on narrow airstrips, it could be tricky.
The rudders were also added so it could be used as a primary trainer
a few years back there was a free recouped in X Plane. It was super detailed. One of the best free plane ever..great sounds and shakes too.this one is lovely.
I wonder if it was the same developer ?
I flew that plane and it became my go-to plane for pretty much everything in the sim. I'm so happy it's now available for MSFS.
I love this aeroplane. I flew the Ercoupe a whole lot in X-Plane 11. I live a few miles from College Park Aerodrome where the Ercoupe was first flown, so it has a place in my heart for more than just the reason that it's a whole lot of fun to fly.
Got that one you’re absolutely right, it’s a great aircraft, another little gem.
It really is :)
What a cool retro aircraft, I love the old school style of it. Looks fun to fly.
It really is great fun :)
Thank you for another great video! Just FYI, the developer updated the plane on May 26, 2023 and the rudder pedals functionality was removed. This is from the most recent documentation:
Rudder Pedals: Originally, this add-on had rudder pedals, but in update 1.3.0, the rudder pedals were
removed, and now the steering has to be controlled by the yoke input, just like in real
aircraft. Both ailerons and rudders are now controlled by the yoke input
I'll have to go grab it and re-visit soon then :)
Flaps as we know them today have been around since the 20's. The ercoupe was designed with simplicity in mind so no flaps.
Was flying the Reims 172. Getting a sneak peak at what you were selling me on next🤣. Great video as always
Hah - awesome :)
I already had this plane, luckily. The window opening I think was removed due to a bug I think. Used to press the top centre of the canopy. Lovely looking plane.
Crap, how many airplanes are you gonna make me buy??
Love the H-tail on the Ercoupe. Classic.
It's certainly different :)
I checked the marketplace in the sim for this plane, and couldn't find it. I'll go on Sim Marketplace, now, and have a look over there for it. I thought this plane wasn't supposed to have rudder pedals, but only a brake pedal. Was kind of hoping to fly the ErCopue, aka "Scare"-Coupe with it's original flight characteristics intact. I did see an older vid of this plane, which was covering an update. Turns out, the dev disabled the canopy to fix an animation glitch. Very bad form. LOL Thanks for the video.
I got it from the developer - not sure it's in the marketplace.
@@jonbeckett Nope. Only place I did find it was in SimMarket in Europe for around 18 U.S. I think he just cut/pasted a generic trike plane's profile into a poor quality 3D model, and called it "done". LOL Had none of the characteristics I was expecting from the ErCoupe. Many bugs are still in it, and now, you can't even open the canopy anymore. LOL Maybe it's a placeholder for future work.
It's one of my favorites. 😍 ❤️ I love flying it. I bought it immediately after AvAngel reviewed it when it first arrived in MSFS.
It is a great little plane.
I flew one in the 70's with the owner, it was IFR certified. We flew into JFK in IMC. On the initial call to Approach control, he thought we were F-ing with him. Made a very extreme crosswind landing (which they are known to do really well). The tower guys had a good laugh I guess...first Ercoupe they had directed in. Take a look at the landing gear..it was a design that Boeing used for its 707 later. Yes, his still flies. GREAT model...great video.
Cheers :) Interesting note about the gear - I noticed the configuration when I first saw it, and thought "that's early for that design".
People laugh at me anytime I ask about getting mine IFR certified, and what all it would entail.
I honestly wouldnt willingly fly into IMC if I didnt have to. I mostly just want it for "need it" situations, and to train for instrument rating. It's cool to hear it can actually be pushed through some IMC if need be. People call it too light for that, but I honestly think it's a tough little plane thats well streamlined no matter what direction the airflow is coming from.
I also think the metalized wings might help keep the plane together in bad weather. Was his IFR certified plane a rag wing, or metalized?
It was metal. Back then, weight was an issue with added devices. Now..all of it is much lighter and smaller. GREAT that you getting your ticket..
Enjoyed that. What a beautifully modeled aircraft. Good job with the review.
Maybe you could add slow flight to you flight tests.
Great idea
I've often wondered how you're supposed to park. Could you do a quick video on airfield markings, taxiways, those big boxy type markers with numbers and letters on, lights etc?
You'll probably find that there is no hard and fast rule to it.
Great Review and it's in our Hanger thanks to You. One question,.......... We tried looking for some alternative Liveries on Flightsim to but couldn't find any. Any ideas as to where we might find some?
Kind Regards.
No idea - my first stop would have been flightsim.to too :)
My uncle owned one of these and it was first plane my father (the baby) ever took flight in - and he was forever dreadful of any type of flying afterwards, not even in a 747. Two requests: please show more exterior views of aircraft when flying; And when referring to the ground, please say "ground." Floor = inside a building or structure, whereas ground = outside. Example: OUTSIDE: My beagle dropped the stick onto the ground. INSIDE: My sister was pouring a cup of coffee in the kitchen and spilled some on mom's freshly mopped floor.
I don't know :) I put one word out of place, and somebody jumps on it lol. In my defence, I always do these videos in one take - I smile when I see other people cut the video, and think "you messed that up, didn't you" :)
Dear Jonathan. We probably have similar taste preferences when it comes to planes - and that's going to make me poor. But I don't want to miss your posts anymore.
If you head to jonbeckett.substack.com you can subscribe by email - I'm posting there every time I put a video out.
Good vid.
Flaps were first used in 1916/1917. Ercoupe lacked them because it was designed to be stupid simple to fly. Most of the production models were built after WW2.
I've tried REALLY hard to like this addon, but the performance of the plane is right out of fantasy land unfortunately. It's so far off of the 415-C POH and every single pilot report I've read about how this plane flies. Really quite disappointing.
BRSims finally added rudder/aileron mixing and got rid of the pedals like the real Ercoupe in the latest update, but I really preferred doing the control mixing manually, as the rudder is FAR too aggressive in the official update. Just tapping the yoke causes the nose to swing all over the place.
It's unfortunate. The external model is generally well done outside of some proportion issues but nothing egregious. Ah well.
Maybe ATSimulations Piaggio / Focke-Wulf P149D is up next..?
How did you know :)
@@jonbeckett Haha, great!
I love the older aircraft, you should consider doing one on the PASPED skylark!!Unfortunately because I’m an Xbox simmer, we will not get this incredible airplane. The Staggerwing is another art deco classic
I have a video of the Staggerwing :)
@@jonbeckett in mags the Staggerwing and the PASPED are available in the marketplace and both have GREAT sounding radials !!!!
The glide and landing roll-out on this aircraft are seriously messed up - it glides almost horizontally and on touchdown it rolls almost forever without losing any speed. I've found that I get much more believable results with the following changes to the flight_model.cfg file:
cruise_lift_scalar =1
parasite_drag_scalar =0.8
One of my favorite real-life airplanes. I flew into a grass strip about 45 years ago, and an Ercoupe that looked just like this landed behind me. A gorgeous brunette slid back the canopy and stood up with a leather flying jacket and a scarf blowing in the wind. One of my most vivid lifetime memories. I've wanted one (the Ercoupe...well, both) ever since!
Some of these had no rudder pedals and they had the rudders linked in with the wheel. Made crabbing impossible. Found a video of a rudderless one... ua-cam.com/video/1gUc54yoph4/v-deo.html
That's interesting that there was a rudderless version - and what a memory :)
@@jonbeckett Actually, the lack of rudder pedals was this plane's most famous feature and I believer ALL of them (or at least the vast majority) were built that way. The plane was built by several different entities over the years (Ercoupe becoming Aircoupe in the process) and it might be that one of the later builders offered pedals from the factory. I'm not sure on that. But in general, Ercoupes and Aircoupes with rudder pedals today are aftermarket mods.
Because of this, there used to be an Ercoupe-only pilot's license, as in Ercoupes were the only planes you could fly. Not only for the physical lack of rudder pedals, but because in those days being able to do and recover from a 3-turn spin was a requirement for a regular PPL, and the Ercoupe couldn't spin, nor really do conventional spin recovery if it somehow got spinning anyway. Plus, taxiing was steered with the yoke, which takes some getting used to if you were raised on rudder pedals. Which is why today most of these planes now have pedals.
In MSFS, there's an option to couple rudder and aileron in the assistance menu. I suggest using that option and flying the plane without using its rudder pedals, and see what happens.
Where is this airport, sorry if I missed you saying?
D83 Boonville
Just another good video andddd not flown one before the yokes should be moving as one turns cause you taxi this plane like if you were driving car using the steering wheel as it were.
Only in the rudderless version.
@@jonbeckett ohhh right Thank You forgot about that :)
the side windows slide vertically
Ah! That makes sense.
Link to purchase?
It's on SimMarket, I think - if you Google it, you'll find it.
Topper free
Exterior model is not very well done.. Canopy is too big.
It looks good to me (comparing against photos of the real aircraft).
Ther are 2 type canopy's a little withe vertical sliding windows and a bigger one withe a sliding roof, i think the builder did mix this up on this model.
How does one purchase this for msfs as it dorsnt apprear in marketplace offerings. Any help appreciated. Great video. Thanks!!
I think I bought it from SimMarket.