The head of the German foreign intelligence service (BND), August Hanning, stated a few weeks ago that the attack on the Nord Stream gas pipelines was carried out with the support of Poland and with the approval of the presidents of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky and Poland Andrzej Duda.
What sort of clickbait misinformation is this? The headline blames China, but China isn’t mentioned in the video as possibly being to blame. DW’s UA-cam editor should be disciplined for poor journalistic principles. I might even flag the video as being misleading.
Not only did a Chinese ship cut those electricity cables around 2 months ago but they have admitted it after it became clear nations affected in question had overwhelmingly technical evidences. How about using open sources to find our this is public knowledge and openly admitted by China. They though then said it were a "mistake". This time no one will believe them. Here are what were said by a Swedish minister last night. Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.
Danish viewer here... Please, can someone explain to me why you cannot board a ship under strong suspicion of sabotage? This can't go on, and there is a large repair that costs money. SEIZE the ship.... What is the problem?
@@uniqueaustraliandestinatio1352 The exact time when the cable was cut is known, the exact position of the ship at that time is known, this position correlates with the place where the cable is cut. If this is reality, the rational thing to do is to board the ship to secure pot. evidence.
They probably can, but boarding a vessel in the exclusive economic zone is much more difficult proposition when it comes to international law. A lot of limitations apply. Much simpler to board it in danish territorial waters.
An involved US is a weaker US (the West's Daddy) to do anything about Taiwan. Trump and his promises are a threat to them. Just a speculation although it's so complex that there are a few parties that are capable of this.
Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.
...except Nord Stream is functioning at 50% capacity. So why is no gas being sent through? Because Germany does not want to buy it through that remaining pipe!
The title is misleading as the interview had nothing to do with China and only talked about Russia as the suspected culprit. What a waste of my time...
You really ought to improve your deduction skills buddy! 😂 What is Xina doing? (Aiding Ruzzia) Also do you have any hard proof that all of the Intelligence Agencies of the world have missed? Like a memo saying that "Xina will never do something like this with an undersea cable" or are you just full of it?.. 💁🏻
The idea that it might be an attack by a country was alien to the reporters at the time. They learned. There has been fair journalism about Nord Stream in the time since in the EU. Now how is the reporting (not much journalism there) in China, let alone Russia (great job winning that race) or North Korea working out? We have a very flawed system. It is just the best in the world at it.
There’s much more evidence. There’s a single ship that stopped right over a cable when it was cut, and then went over another cable, and stopped right over when it was cut again.
@@I922sParkCir Jon Anker Nielsen, the harbor master of the island port of Christiansø (located on the namesake archipelago 18 km northeast of Bornholm), directly stated that he had been forced to remain silent for the past two years about what he had seen before the explosions: "In the first few days, the harbor master, according to his own statement, was told 'not to say a word.' But today, Jon Anker Nielsen can openly share that four or five days before the Nord Stream explosions, he went with the rescue service to Christiansø because several unidentified ships with their transponders turned off had been spotted there, not responding to inquiries. It turned out these were American military ships. When the rescue mission approached them, they were ordered by command to turn back." Think about it: less than a week before the explosion, the U.S. Navy was secretly operating (with transponders off) in Denmark's exclusive economic zone. And all this time, a small Danish port's harbor master knew about it, but was silenced for years. It's interesting whether Swedish, German, and Danish investigators interviewed him. Are his statements in the investigation archives? Or did they cling so tightly to the version about the Polish-Ukrainian diver, Vladimir Z., that everything not fitting into that narrative was discarded?
@@1.4billion65 Eh, they cut the other cable and got caught doing it? And now a Chinese ship was tracked to that route at the specific time the cable was cut. That's what China has to do with it, why even comment when you haven't watched the video or any other news for the past 2 years it seems?
Germany should join with Flnland, Denmark and other countries to begin another 2 year enquiry into the event. Perhaps the expert investigators employed on the Nord Stream sabotage could be engaged also, once that enquiry concludes.
Nope, it was the Amish people, I saw some of them building ship few months ago. I thought they were building noah ark, but now I know why they built a ship for.
China 🇨🇳 has many times cut communication undersea cables in the South China Sea connecting Vietnam 🇻🇳 with other countries. Sometimes, up to 3 separate routes of cables got cut at the same time. - China 🇨🇳 also helped Russia to cut a gas pipeline and a telecoms cable connecting Finland and Estonia, using the anchors of the container ship NewNew Polar Bear, causing disuption of energy supply and telecom communications.
A ship with China flag doesn't mean that chinese operate it or china as a nation is behind it. Modern Ship can have indian flag, Irish captain and belongs to Egyptian company.
What boggles my mind is why the Chinese ship that "mysteriously" switched off it's position reporting equipment when it crossed these cables was not forcibly detained and a forensic investigation of it's anchors made to determine if there were any trace materials from the cables to be found on them. If found, the ship's officers and owners would be in for a world of hurt! Ships from that shipping line should be banned from European waters for at least a decade! Frankly, ships from China passing through European waters should have to pay the expense of an escort vessel that ensures they cannot get away with this kind of sabotage.
Frankly, what are you gonna do about the US navy blowing up pipelines and the Brits blowing up civilian bridges? What about the Israeli, US, European genocide in Gaza?
only if they already had contracts with starlink. I don't think any governments right now (outside Moscow and Maralago) are seeking business with Elon Musk
Oh, for goodness sake. Stop over thinking it. It's simply the Russians causing disruption. It doesn't matter what you call it. What matters is what you're going to do about it.
My bet, Russia will come with "we can protect your cables if you do what we want" as they did in the past numerous times. I can think of oldest example at the time Russia was still conquering their east part. They sabotaged locals unofficially and offered protection to those who did as they wanted.
This is just a form of reconnaissance warfare.... a test if you will... to see how a country and their aliances respond in specific, albeit very scaled down, situations and also the cause and effect of an action. A benefit analysis.... part of a much larger tactical offensive....
Off course it’s deliberate! The location of those cables is well known. As a captain you know not to drop anchor there. And why would you in the middle of the sea?
Is there a company that is making something more secure than these fiberoptic lines? Oddly, I remember learning about them over 50 years ago with the telephone lines.....
A ship with China flag doesn't mean that chinese operate it or china as a nation is behind it. Modern Ship can have indian flag, Irish captain and belongs to Egyptian company.
@@ianhamilton3113 Stop being personally offended by comments on internet when you aren't even the subject. What does correcting their grammar make your comment?
The nations of the world have the capacity to track the precise location of every surface vessel at sea in real time. They should also be capable of pinning down the time of the cut to a nanosecond. So who was at those spots when the cables were cut? Do you really think they don’t know?
They have. And they have identified a chisese flagged ship as having been in the exact location at the exact time. The ship had just left Russia, and had a russian captain and crew. They also turned off their transponder (illegal) right before approaching the cable.
Emm, it looks like you know everything, but were there any results from the last survey? This time there are hundreds of ships sailing in that sea area during that time period. How can you be sure that the problem lies with that ship?
Some one want to make sure it could never be used again and America would have an exclusive European energy market. Good job the invisible hands, you always do what you do and always get it right
@JohnGeranien Just wondering…… have those Ukrainian suspects that were found appear in an international court yet?…… Was there an International warrant issued for those Ukrainian suspects that were found yet? Really curious now………. 😉
The last sabotage was also a Chinese vessel and it wasn't pipelines, but also cables between Finland and Estonia. Nord Stream is an obsolete issue, since there will never be any fossil fuel exports coming from Russia ever again. They have lost their largest and richest market and won't be able to recover from it.
Maybe NATO/EU countries should start investing in multiple land and undersea internet cables scattered all over Europe even at high costs making them redundant and impossible to take down all at once so sabotaging them is useless and futile.
Amazing how the official communication is that they don't know who cut the cables and yet the analyst seems convinced that it's Russia who has done this. Maybe Ukraine did it to motivate Germany and the likes to supply long range weapons. Too coincidental if you ask me
Did you sleep the whole way through? The Chinese ship sailed under Russian led orders and even publicly available data show exactly how they did it by lowering their anchor miles before crossing the cables significantly slowing the ship down. Zero guesswork about, this was sabotage ordered by the Kremlin.
Man stop with blaming either its Russia or China. Bring evidence first then talk. Man sick of western media talking boogieman. Even if you dont like the country doesn't mean you should talk bs and say it to general public.
Not only did a Chinese ship cut those electricity cables around 2 months ago but they have admitted it after it became clear nations affected in question had overwhelmingly technical evidences. How about using open sources to find our this is public knowledge and openly admitted by China. They though then said it were a "mistake". This time no one will believe them. Here are what were said by a Swedish minister last night. Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.
Didn't you pay attention? It was a chinese ship, captained by a russian national, sailing out of russia, and it turned off its transponders as it approached the cables. SO who do you wan to blame... New Zealand?
Since when it turned out to be UKR? Everbody is just speculating, only the USA knows. But you are right, when NORDSTREAM happened, everybody was pointing towards Muscovia and it made no sense. But this time it makes sense.
People like you had pretty much explaining to do after the Balticconnector pipeline case, in which case the actual ship got caught and turned out to be Chinese enroute to Russian port. Now that their government can't deny the evidence they just of course claim it was an accident, but they must feel pretty humiliated because they have start giving out explanations nobody believes. Seizing the ship responsible for C-lion1 along with its crew for investigation sounds like a great idea, so that parties responsible can't escape justice.
@@herptek bro, I dont know why you talk about china, but nordstream means money for exporting gas for russia, less money for ukraine because its in competition with pipelines passing through ukraine. and no nordstream means LPG more sales, more money for norway and USA. So cutting nordstream means lose for russia, without any investigation but just by pure logic, why would russia cut its money making machine, to give more money to ukrainians, norwegians and Americans?
EU people are to much dependent on undersea cable just like Russia gas. Stop dependening on weak cable! Start buying more STARLINK, it is good for you!
@@FBAagent Please look it up. Nordstream has nothing to do with this Finnish cable infrastructure connecting to other western nations such as Germany nor the previous case of Balticconnector pipeline, between two NATO countries which helped reduce dependence of any fuels imported from Russia.
@@Awibrahor John Anker Nielsen, the harbor master of the island port of Christiansø (18 km northeast of Bornholm), already spilled the beans about the US involvement in the Nord Stream "Incident", Billy Bob.
So Ukraine conspired with China to use their vessel „Yi Peng 3“ and this should make the west think it was Russia? How does any of that makes sense to you?
Not only did a Chinese ship cut those electricity cables around 2 months ago but they have admitted it after it became clear nations affected in question had overwhelmingly technical evidences. How about using open sources to find our this is public knowledge and openly admitted by China. They though then said it were a "mistake". This time no one will believe them. Here are what were said by a Swedish miniter last night. Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.
@ThomasGilmore-fi6gb European countries are now pressured to authorize use of long range missiles. If they believe Russia did this, they will be more open to authorization. Same as when USA and Ukrainians destroyed nord stream to discourage use of Russian gas.
@@ThomasGilmore-fi6gb DW deleted my comments three times now. But Ukraine would benefit just like how it benefited from destroying Nordstream gas links. It strengthened ties between western countries. It pushed fence sitters like Germany to their side. Similarly Germany is debating whether to authorize long range missiles or not. If they perceive Russia to be aggressive, Germany would authorize them. This is how Ukraine benefits. Now whether you want to devolve this debate into something like the ends justify the means. That's another topic.
These cables were cut a few hours after German Chancellor spoke on the phone with POOtin. NO ONE should talk with POOtin. He ONLY understands power and force and should be met by entire free world with own boots on the ground in Ukraine. Ukraine must not be allowed to loose one inch of land because of POOtin´s illegal aggression war against the Budapest memorandum they signed and the UN charter, International law, human rights, rules of war Russia violate!
It is not in the character of NATO countries to sabotage cables... It seems that the character of NATO countries is to sabotage gas pipelines. 😂 The Western media has a comedic discourse
Clearly, the cable cuts originated with a Chinese vessel. It's a simple matter of time and place. In both cases, at the time the cable traffic was disrupted, the same Chinese vessel was located in the vicinity of the affected cable. Specifically, Yi Peng 3, a Chinese-registered cargo ship, was traveling from Russia to Egypt when it passed the two cables at around the same time each was cut on Sunday and Monday, according to Marine Traffic data. Something that seems rather too coincidental. Accordingly, it's reasonable to conclude the damage is the result of a deliberate act. The Yi Peng 3 vessel as “a standard 225-metre bulk carrier” with a crew of Chinese nationals. It's worth noting that China, like Russia, uses supposed commercial vessels for espionage and other nefarious purposes. This is not the first time a Chinese vessel has been implicated in damage to European undersea infrastructure. For example, a vessel known as Newnew Polar Bear seemed very active on the night of 7 October 2023. This Chinese cargo vessel is suspected of damaging at least two underwater telecommunications cables and a natural gas pipeline in the Baltic before scurrying to the safety of Russian waters. The sabotage's boldness, along with the Newnew Polar Bear’s murky ownership, suggests the depths to which China and Russia are now engaged in coordinated efforts to undermine the West. Again, it seems fair to conclude that all the damage to undersea infrastructure in the Baltic can be laid on the Chinese-Russian doorstep.
The USA, the same when they blew up North Stream. Remember the WWII, they only started to fight after the Allied were so weakened everyone was prey to them. Western Europe fell to proxies right after, Eastern Europe took a while longer.
Not only did a Chinese ship cut those electricity cables around 2 months ago but they have admitted it after it became clear nations affected in question had overwhelmingly technical evidences. How about using open sources to find our this is public knowledge and openly admitted by China. They though then said it were a "mistake". This time no one will believe them. Here are what were said by a Swedish miniter last night. Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.
I'm sure EU countries could come up with a rule for dealing with stuff like this. Preferably board suspected sabotage ships, preferably before they do damage. Suspicious activity and connection to Russia is justification enough to stop a vessel for an inspection, during a shadow war in Europe. The inconvenience to Russian shipping would function as part of the sanction to Russia.
Must be 4 people in a row boat , perhaps the same 4 that blew up the Nord Stream gas pipeline .
Must be the Losharik build by Russians.
Nah, this wasnt the Americans.
Yeah, it's amazing what people belive. 😂
Go away WuMao bot.
The head of the German foreign intelligence service (BND), August Hanning, stated a few weeks ago that the attack on the Nord Stream gas pipelines was carried out with the support of Poland and with the approval of the presidents of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky and Poland Andrzej Duda.
What sort of clickbait misinformation is this? The headline blames China, but China isn’t mentioned in the video as possibly being to blame. DW’s UA-cam editor should be disciplined for poor journalistic principles. I might even flag the video as being misleading.
Not only did a Chinese ship cut those electricity cables around 2 months ago but they have admitted it after it became clear nations affected in question had overwhelmingly technical evidences. How about using open sources to find our this is public knowledge and openly admitted by China. They though then said it were a "mistake".
This time no one will believe them. Here are what were said by a Swedish minister last night.
Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.
It was a Chinese ship.
Are you wumao?
Chinese ship, russian captain.
Who doesn't do click bait these days? If you're not paying anyone for journalistic works then why are you blaming click bait?
Then report the video for misinformation
Danish viewer here... Please, can someone explain to me why you cannot board a ship under strong suspicion of sabotage? This can't go on, and there is a large repair that costs money. SEIZE the ship.... What is the problem?
Most people act rationally.
@@uniqueaustraliandestinatio1352 The exact time when the cable was cut is known, the exact position of the ship at that time is known, this position correlates with the place where the cable is cut. If this is reality, the rational thing to do is to board the ship to secure pot. evidence.
@@JensOverbyShip in International waters. A box is cut, and I have a box cutter - so was it me?
They probably can, but boarding a vessel in the exclusive economic zone is much more difficult proposition when it comes to international law. A lot of limitations apply.
Much simpler to board it in danish territorial waters.
@@siprus Piracy
why would China want to cut out the internet when they need Europe to connect to temu 😂😂😂
An involved US is a weaker US (the West's Daddy) to do anything about Taiwan. Trump and his promises are a threat to them. Just a speculation although it's so complex that there are a few parties that are capable of this.
Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.
And SHEIN
Go away PutinBot
They didn’t blame China. They indicated Russia. And just because it is a Chinese flagged ship doesn’t mean it cannot be used by others.
Who benefited when Nord stream 2 was blown up? Perhaps the new supplier at 5x the cost?
Blast gas pipe line: USA sell gas
Cut cable: USA sell starlink
Gas is x5 more now? Please show me the source. Like a chart or something
The gas wasn't going through there. Do you understand??
German citizen benefited freely from Toxic Russia energy.
...except Nord Stream is functioning at 50% capacity. So why is no gas being sent through? Because Germany does not want to buy it through that remaining pipe!
Check which vessels went ghosting, and then re-appear out of no where. They use this tactic for illegal fishing, espionage, and now sabotage.
The title is misleading as the interview had nothing to do with China and only talked about Russia as the suspected culprit. What a waste of my time...
Well, I think it is a problem for China that they are likely involved in sabotage
It's a chinese ship.
😂
Because Russia has good reason to cut the cables
You really ought to improve your deduction skills buddy! 😂
What is Xina doing?
(Aiding Ruzzia)
Also do you have any hard proof that all of the Intelligence Agencies of the world have missed?
Like a memo saying that "Xina will never do something like this with an undersea cable" or are you just full of it?.. 💁🏻
I do not remember DW being this fast when Nord stream 2 was blown up…but what remains the same is the way how they manipulate the information
The idea that it might be an attack by a country was alien to the reporters at the time. They learned. There has been fair journalism about Nord Stream in the time since in the EU. Now how is the reporting (not much journalism there) in China, let alone Russia (great job winning that race) or North Korea working out? We have a very flawed system. It is just the best in the world at it.
There’s much more evidence. There’s a single ship that stopped right over a cable when it was cut, and then went over another cable, and stopped right over when it was cut again.
@@I922sParkCir Also there is much more attention on the gaslines and other cables.
😅🤣😂🤡
@@I922sParkCir Jon Anker Nielsen, the harbor master of the island port of Christiansø (located on the namesake archipelago 18 km northeast of Bornholm), directly stated that he had been forced to remain silent for the past two years about what he had seen before the explosions:
"In the first few days, the harbor master, according to his own statement, was told 'not to say a word.' But today, Jon Anker Nielsen can openly share that four or five days before the Nord Stream explosions, he went with the rescue service to Christiansø because several unidentified ships with their transponders turned off had been spotted there, not responding to inquiries. It turned out these were American military ships. When the rescue mission approached them, they were ordered by command to turn back."
Think about it: less than a week before the explosion, the U.S. Navy was secretly operating (with transponders off) in Denmark's exclusive economic zone. And all this time, a small Danish port's harbor master knew about it, but was silenced for years. It's interesting whether Swedish, German, and Danish investigators interviewed him. Are his statements in the investigation archives? Or did they cling so tightly to the version about the Polish-Ukrainian diver, Vladimir Z., that everything not fitting into that narrative was discarded?
Seems like a good argument for Elon's Starlink to be installed
Exactly. He wants to manipulate the entire world with his Starlink.
@MissRed92837 oh he doesn't
Here we go again with the China/Russia accusation.... 😂😂😂😂
It shows the West desperation...
Or Russia's desperation. It wasn't fairies was it? Wake up!
What China has anything to do with this?
@@1.4billion65 Eh, they cut the other cable and got caught doing it?
And now a Chinese ship was tracked to that route at the specific time the cable was cut.
That's what China has to do with it, why even comment when you haven't watched the video or any other news for the past 2 years it seems?
@@MaunoMato99 what do you mean they got caught doing cut the other cable?
😂
If China was doing so good they wouldn’t be so aggressive
Germany should join with Flnland, Denmark and other countries to begin another 2 year enquiry into the event. Perhaps the expert investigators employed on the Nord Stream sabotage could be engaged also, once that enquiry concludes.
You assume they will publish some conclusion - that can't be proven?
I can think of reasons not to do that.
They should ask Sikorsky, he knows everything...
Russia did it. The Chinese ship that cut the cables sailed from a Russian port.
They used gigantic Iranian scissors 😂 .
newly installed captain is also russian
Its time to stop russian traffic through the baltic
Nope, it was the Amish people, I saw some of them building ship few months ago. I thought they were building noah ark, but now I know why they built a ship for.
Of course .. probabely you shiuted the same when the nordstream pipeline was blown up ! e@@edwardgiovannelli5191
Chinese registration, Russian captain, Russian crew. 2+2=?
Or how about Chinese Wessel captain bribed by Russian official... Chinese authority may not know.
Call the 'thank you Amerika' Sikorsky, he identified the Nord Stream saboteur instantly...
@@vladimiremerichsmejkal5525 ...except he immediately withdrew it, and said it was a joke.
@@PoulNoergaard-j3f hey, don't pee on the guy's conspiracy theory here... he was really proud of himself for a minute there.
Those fiberoptic cables are not backups. They carry most of the traffic.....
bla, bla bla....
here, here.
China 🇨🇳 has many times cut communication undersea cables in the South China Sea connecting Vietnam 🇻🇳 with other countries.
Sometimes, up to 3 separate routes of cables got cut at the same time.
- China 🇨🇳 also helped Russia to cut a gas pipeline and a telecoms cable connecting Finland and Estonia, using the anchors of the container ship NewNew Polar Bear, causing disuption of energy supply and telecom communications.
source : nonsense.
A ship with China flag doesn't mean that chinese operate it or china as a nation is behind it. Modern Ship can have indian flag, Irish captain and belongs to Egyptian company.
BS
Elon musk hired China to do, so he can sell more starlink..😅😅
Elon musk hired China to do, so he can sell more starlink..😅😅
What boggles my mind is why the Chinese ship that "mysteriously" switched off it's position reporting equipment when it crossed these cables was not forcibly detained and a forensic investigation of it's anchors made to determine if there were any trace materials from the cables to be found on them. If found, the ship's officers and owners would be in for a world of hurt! Ships from that shipping line should be banned from European waters for at least a decade!
Frankly, ships from China passing through European waters should have to pay the expense of an escort vessel that ensures they cannot get away with this kind of sabotage.
I heard the ship was boarded and is being investigated
Stop eating these magic mushrooms. Its expired stock
Frankly, what are you gonna do about the US navy blowing up pipelines and the Brits blowing up civilian bridges? What about the Israeli, US, European genocide in Gaza?
@@sherriziegel: please stay on topic.
It is clearly Russia getting revenge for the U.S. blowing up the Nord Stream.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with Olaf talking to Putin about peace.
Win for satellite constellation communication businesses.
don't you think?
only if they already had contracts with starlink.
I don't think any governments right now (outside Moscow and Maralago) are seeking business with Elon Musk
It was Musk who did it
Yeah. He is frustrated, because no one buys Starlink in these countries. There is a 5G link per every square kilometre even in the deepest forests!😂
@@-NEH-Yup. Europe is not fan of Musk and his services. They are right, not to let Musk get power over Europe.
Oh, for goodness sake. Stop over thinking it. It's simply the Russians causing disruption. It doesn't matter what you call it. What matters is what you're going to do about it.
stop allowing them passage through the Baltic. Its the only answer.
My bet, Russia will come with "we can protect your cables if you do what we want" as they did in the past numerous times. I can think of oldest example at the time Russia was still conquering their east part. They sabotaged locals unofficially and offered protection to those who did as they wanted.
That's literally what mafia does
The fool and his ignorant rants.
Yet Ukraine blew up Nordstream.
This is just a form of reconnaissance warfare.... a test if you will... to see how a country and their aliances respond in specific, albeit very scaled down, situations and also the cause and effect of an action. A benefit analysis.... part of a much larger tactical offensive....
Off course it’s deliberate! The location of those cables is well known. As a captain you know not to drop anchor there. And why would you in the middle of the sea?
Imagine that first a gas pipe now the internet, I wonder who could have done that
Kremlin employed Xinese🙌
I know! What a shocker, right?!!🤣🤣🤣
It was Ukraine, do you live in the past ?! It s well documented now@@MarkusMöttus-x7j
Oh dear, this is not first and second. There has been a lot in between. Finland - Estonia cabel.
The Chinese already destroyed a gas pipeline between Estonia and FInland.
Must be Ukrainians
They blew up Germany's gas pipelines
EU is such a joke
If there is no accident, NATO artcle 4 must be invoked.
Elon Musk wants to sell more starlink.
Sell and with it manipulate the entire world. 😉
Is there a company that is making something more secure than these fiberoptic lines? Oddly, I remember learning about them over 50 years ago with the telephone lines.....
A ship with China flag doesn't mean that chinese operate it or china as a nation is behind it. Modern Ship can have indian flag, Irish captain and belongs to Egyptian company.
If you post your comment multiple times, makes it suspicious.
if your profile name contains chinese characters, makes it suspicious
There are ways to investigate, however China is "friendly" with Russia
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@@jonronaldflores3007 Yes because I am a god damn chinese spreaker?
Ban their ship from the ports
A submarine was waiting for Chinese ship to pass overhead before cutting the cable.
what a joke you have become
Yes what a joke,, the whole world thought that the powerful Russian army could occupy all of Europe in just 6 months
Start with a capital letter and end with a full stop. It'll stop your comment from looking like a joke.
@@ianhamilton3113 Stop being personally offended by comments on internet when you aren't even the subject. What does correcting their grammar make your comment?
@@IliassRacing I'm not personally offended. I haven't said I'm personally offended. It was just advice.
@@IliassRacing "What does correcting their grammar make your comment?" Helpful.
Germany is pathetic first thing germany did was cry on US shoulders rather then handling situation with china like a true nation
The nations of the world have the capacity to track the precise location of every surface vessel at sea in real time. They should also be capable of pinning down the time of the cut to a nanosecond. So who was at those spots when the cables were cut? Do you really think they don’t know?
They have. And they have identified a chisese flagged ship as having been in the exact location at the exact time.
The ship had just left Russia, and had a russian captain and crew.
They also turned off their transponder (illegal) right before approaching the cable.
@ and …. There ya go!
Trum did it. "It was a beautiful cable. It was a great cable. I'm friends with the cable. I cut it. I did."
Perfect plot for Baywatch. Get the lifeguards to investigate an international sabotage incident. 😂
😂
The man from Atlantis
@@grahamfisher5436
... or undine from Atlantis.
It is not first time Chinese ship cuts cables.
Dummy
@@drunkdrftr What does that make you??
Emm, it looks like you know everything, but were there any results from the last survey?
This time there are hundreds of ships sailing in that sea area during that time period. How can you be sure that the problem lies with that ship?
@@JayCho84 pancake
@Wiers75q Doesn't matter how many ships were there. If there was one Chinese there that must be it. DW mentality.
US again? 😂
Elon Musk.
@@gmac8586 Can't be Elon. He's far too busy getting into bed with Donald Trump.
Probably the same who 'benefited ' from ths blown up of gas pipelines in baltic sea
The pipelines were not in use, and would never been used again. The sabotage only had a symbolic meaning.
Some one want to make sure it could never be used again and America would have an exclusive European energy market. Good job the invisible hands, you always do what you do and always get it right
It's not in our character to retaliate? Please. Of course that's where we start here. Why do Europeans self-deter in this way?
Attacking communication infrastructure is an act of war...
how long does it take to repair the damaged cable? I doubt they would have to replace the cable
The cables are on the ocean floor thousands of feet down.
A week or two maybe
Why are we already moving on to the next sabotage? What about the latest sabotage called Nordstream? Has Brandon apologized for that yet?
Ukrainian suspects were found
@JohnGeranien Nobody believes this garbage that it was the Ukrainians
@@JohnGeranien Nobody believes this garbage
@JohnGeranien
Just wondering…… have those Ukrainian suspects that were found appear in an international court yet?……
Was there an International warrant issued for those Ukrainian suspects that were found yet?
Really curious now………. 😉
The last sabotage was also a Chinese vessel and it wasn't pipelines, but also cables between Finland and Estonia. Nord Stream is an obsolete issue, since there will never be any fossil fuel exports coming from Russia ever again. They have lost their largest and richest market and won't be able to recover from it.
Maybe NATO/EU countries should start investing in multiple land and undersea internet cables scattered all over Europe even at high costs making them redundant and impossible to take down all at once so sabotaging them is useless and futile.
Amazing how the official communication is that they don't know who cut the cables and yet the analyst seems convinced that it's Russia who has done this. Maybe Ukraine did it to motivate Germany and the likes to supply long range weapons. Too coincidental if you ask me
Did you sleep the whole way through? The Chinese ship sailed under Russian led orders and even publicly available data show exactly how they did it by lowering their anchor miles before crossing the cables significantly slowing the ship down.
Zero guesswork about, this was sabotage ordered by the Kremlin.
amazing how bots like you with random numbers and letters as names are still allowed on youtube.
@@Daxter250says the guy with random number, time to retire being robo, old man
I’m not a bot and I’m guessing Ukraine 2
Do you know what an "opinion" is?
Elon trying to sell starlink
China wouldn't do that, the East are a lot less volatile than the West
Well it’s obvious that Elon Musk and Starlink did it !!!………… 🤨
Aren't all ships tracked and identified in these waters? Especially in those times any activity in the baltic sea should be monitored.
Satellites next
Teemu has a promotion on new underwater optic fiber cables!
That means Temu product are better than the original
Nordstream, who sabotaged that?
Man stop with blaming either its Russia or China. Bring evidence first then talk. Man sick of western media talking boogieman. Even if you dont like the country doesn't mean you should talk bs and say it to general public.
Not only did a Chinese ship cut those electricity cables around 2 months ago but they have admitted it after it became clear nations affected in question had overwhelmingly technical evidences. How about using open sources to find our this is public knowledge and openly admitted by China. They though then said it were a "mistake".
This time no one will believe them. Here are what were said by a Swedish minister last night.
Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.
Didn't you pay attention? It was a chinese ship, captained by a russian national, sailing out of russia, and it turned off its transponders as it approached the cables.
SO who do you wan to blame... New Zealand?
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good bit of trolling.
@@edwardgiovannelli5191 New Zealand? We'll take it - it'll put us on the map.
We should start checking the cables with remote underwater drones. 24/7
I saw a Sailing boat near these cables.
Did EU figure out who did Nord Steam? It must be the same party did this!
War,disable communication
When North Stream happened, they said the same thing. Then when it turned out to be Ukraine, they became silent.😂
Since when it turned out to be UKR? Everbody is just speculating, only the USA knows. But you are right, when NORDSTREAM happened, everybody was pointing towards Muscovia and it made no sense. But this time it makes sense.
People like you had pretty much explaining to do after the Balticconnector pipeline case, in which case the actual ship got caught and turned out to be Chinese enroute to Russian port. Now that their government can't deny the evidence they just of course claim it was an accident, but they must feel pretty humiliated because they have start giving out explanations nobody believes.
Seizing the ship responsible for C-lion1 along with its crew for investigation sounds like a great idea, so that parties responsible can't escape justice.
@@herptek bro, I dont know why you talk about china, but nordstream means money for exporting gas for russia, less money for ukraine because its in competition with pipelines passing through ukraine. and no nordstream means LPG more sales, more money for norway and USA. So cutting nordstream means lose for russia, without any investigation but just by pure logic, why would russia cut its money making machine, to give more money to ukrainians, norwegians and Americans?
EU people are to much dependent on undersea cable just like Russia gas. Stop dependening on weak cable! Start buying more STARLINK, it is good for you!
@@FBAagent Please look it up. Nordstream has nothing to do with this Finnish cable infrastructure connecting to other western nations such as Germany nor the previous case of Balticconnector pipeline, between two NATO countries which helped reduce dependence of any fuels imported from Russia.
Imagine cutting one cable and you cut off half European countries 😮😮😮
Who would benefit most from the cut? Not the Chinese. China want to trade with Europe. Cutting internet is counterproductive to that.
Europe has sabotaged its own cables again just like Nord Stream2 and blames Russia 😂
All sabotages lead back to US.. 😅😅
sure buddy, whatever you say
It has to be Ghyanna. It used the same tactic to damage the Nord Stream pipe lines.
Evidence. You first gather the evidence, and then you go public.
No lessons on reporting needed from Russia, Ivan.
@@Awibrahor John Anker Nielsen, the harbor master of the island port of Christiansø (18 km northeast of Bornholm), already spilled the beans about the US involvement in the Nord Stream "Incident", Billy Bob.
@@Memovox 25 rubles congrats
@@bradleyroth9870 Vi bruger danske kroner her i landet, og jeg kender ingen som ikke vil tage John Anker Nielsen's ord over MSM.
Correction, first you plant the 'evidence', then you plant the made up story. Fify.
just ban ships from that country then
Every time the term hybrid warfare is used is just to provide an excuse for not responding.
Lol this is dw going full cia mouth piece
Russia, China adjacent. Not seperated by water. Their interconnected cables will, relatively speaking, remain unthreatened.
Clearly this was UKRAINE who stands to win the most from the EU blaming Russia
So Ukraine conspired with China to use their vessel „Yi Peng 3“ and this should make the west think it was Russia? How does any of that makes sense to you?
Yeah, western colonizer blaming china as usual.😂😂
Uhmmm, huh???
The consensus puts the blame on Putin, not China.
Germany's history as a player in the Era of Colonization is trivial.
What’s Pistorius saying about North Stream? Still no clue?
To my view the suspect is the one who destroyed Nordstream !
No-one is benefiting but Russia is just jealous.
Or Zelensky hating Germany calling her ex
@JohnGeranien Zelensky has alibi 😛
@@JohnGeranien Na! It's Russia. Wake up!!
Starlink will of course benefit from this cable cut...😆😆
@@ankpms830 I seriously doubt that.
The cables will be repaired long before Starlink can establish sufficient infrastructure there.
Paranoid makes people imagine funny things.
Not only did a Chinese ship cut those electricity cables around 2 months ago but they have admitted it after it became clear nations affected in question had overwhelmingly technical evidences. How about using open sources to find our this is public knowledge and openly admitted by China. They though then said it were a "mistake". This time no one will believe them. Here are what were said by a Swedish miniter last night.
Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.
illiteracy makes people write funny things.
Wild accusation without proof, it’s also damaging to the situation is not helping to end the war. Some people are benefiting from the war continuing.
Satellites in space take images all the time, they can easily see what ships caused this and also the nord stream explosion
Anchor: new weapon of mass destruction! 😂😂😂
Look at nordstrom. Only US/UK able to do it. U dont talk about it much do u? Wake up germany
The list of countries capable of Nordstream is a LOT longer than US and UK.
Certainly to include Russia at the top of any such list.
The pattern has been obvious for many years now, on who screams the loudest on USA hate and western hate.
Thank you for adding further evidence.
Two men in a yacht?
Nobody can catch the boat..its to fast away😂😂😂😂😂
It has been stopped.
The ship has been stopped and boarded by authorities.
Ukraine benefits just like Ukraine benefited heavily when they destroyed nord stream
I defy you to explain how Ukraine will benefit from this.
@ThomasGilmore-fi6gb European countries are now pressured to authorize use of long range missiles. If they believe Russia did this, they will be more open to authorization. Same as when USA and Ukrainians destroyed nord stream to discourage use of Russian gas.
@@ThomasGilmore-fi6gb DW deleted my comments three times now. But Ukraine would benefit just like how it benefited from destroying Nordstream gas links. It strengthened ties between western countries. It pushed fence sitters like Germany to their side. Similarly Germany is debating whether to authorize long range missiles or not. If they perceive Russia to be aggressive, Germany would authorize them. This is how Ukraine benefits.
Now whether you want to devolve this debate into something like the ends justify the means. That's another topic.
Better call the debate brigade.
Just repair it, problem solved 😂😂😂
...until the next time...oh!...and the next.
Zelensky stopping Germany and Russia to communicate
These cables were cut a few hours after German Chancellor spoke on the phone with POOtin. NO ONE should talk with POOtin. He ONLY understands power and force and should be met by entire free world with own boots on the ground in Ukraine. Ukraine must not be allowed to loose one inch of land because of POOtin´s illegal aggression war against the Budapest memorandum they signed and the UN charter, International law, human rights, rules of war Russia violate!
It cable wasnt between germany and russia.
@274727 zelensky don't know that
@@comrade9374 You Didnt know that!
It is not in the character of NATO countries to sabotage cables...
It seems that the character of NATO countries is to sabotage gas pipelines. 😂
The Western media has a comedic discourse
It is Putin’s charter to sabotage everything…😂
Clearly, the cable cuts originated with a Chinese vessel. It's a simple matter of time and place. In both cases, at the time the cable traffic was disrupted, the same Chinese vessel was located in the vicinity of the affected cable. Specifically, Yi Peng 3, a Chinese-registered cargo ship, was traveling from Russia to Egypt when it passed the two cables at around the same time each was cut on Sunday and Monday, according to Marine Traffic data. Something that seems rather too coincidental. Accordingly, it's reasonable to conclude the damage is the result of a deliberate act. The Yi Peng 3 vessel as “a standard 225-metre bulk carrier” with a crew of Chinese nationals. It's worth noting that China, like Russia, uses supposed commercial vessels for espionage and other nefarious purposes. This is not the first time a Chinese vessel has been implicated in damage to European undersea infrastructure. For example, a vessel known as Newnew Polar Bear seemed very active on the night of 7 October 2023. This Chinese cargo vessel is suspected of damaging at least two underwater telecommunications cables and a natural gas pipeline in the Baltic before scurrying to the safety of Russian waters. The sabotage's boldness, along with the Newnew Polar Bear’s murky ownership, suggests the depths to which China and Russia are now engaged in coordinated efforts to undermine the West. Again, it seems fair to conclude that all the damage to undersea infrastructure in the Baltic can be laid on the Chinese-Russian doorstep.
The proxy counties don't mind blowing up Russia's gas pipelines, but this done to them they cry foul.
This is an American game: to blame bad thing on Chin. DW is doing its job to please the master.
Who cares about Nord Stream, cables are the most important😃
The USA, the same when they blew up North Stream. Remember the WWII, they only started to fight after the Allied were so weakened everyone was prey to them. Western Europe fell to proxies right after, Eastern Europe took a while longer.
China is not in sabotage business if I have to guess us or uk
They are damaging undersea cables to Taiwan, Vietnam and Philippines on a regular basis, though.
Not only did a Chinese ship cut those electricity cables around 2 months ago but they have admitted it after it became clear nations affected in question had overwhelmingly technical evidences. How about using open sources to find our this is public knowledge and openly admitted by China. They though then said it were a "mistake". This time no one will believe them. Here are what were said by a Swedish miniter last night.
Swedish minister for civil defence, Carl-Oskar Brolin, regarding the recent cable cut off´s in Baltic Sea between Sweden and Lithuania: "We can conclude that defence and coastguard through their information's about the situation at sea have recorded ship movement, that in time and space, corresponds to the arisen breakages" referring to the Chinese vessel YI Peng 3´s movements.
@@knighthood91Vietnam? The Chinese built Vietnam networks by the way and Taiwan’s biggest trade partner is whom? Take a guess
@@UCMpDwp7VEfKXRH3NyAW7kuj So... what is the point you are trying to make?
Let me guess: Are they deeply concerned?
AMERICA DID IT
It would be a shame if Putin's Netflix account was cut off.
Cable manufacturer benefits.
Lol? They repair not full new lengtht
@@sebastiaanl9876 Cable repair parties & offshore vessel owners benefit*
🤡
Starlink mate
@@backpackpepelon3867
Starlink is about to go out of service.
Cables rule.
I'm sure EU countries could come up with a rule for dealing with stuff like this.
Preferably board suspected sabotage ships, preferably before they do damage. Suspicious activity and connection to Russia is justification enough to stop a vessel for an inspection, during a shadow war in Europe.
The inconvenience to Russian shipping would function as part of the sanction to Russia.
If anything this would imply an attack on Finland?
These are the same people who claimed that Ukraine did not destroy the North Stream pipeline. Later, Ukraine was found guilty.