Lana also wins a grammy for midnights because of snow on the beach. that's why taylor brought her up. she even mentioned her in her acceptance speech. it was very sweet. also the Celine thing is so ridiculous. maybe taylor didn't hug her cuz of Celine's disease. so she waited to ask her if it was ok backstage.
Absolutely....she is the nicest person in the room. How ridiculous that taylor not hugging Celine is rude but JAY Z basically insulting everyone is cool. Need to change your perspective people
Celine has been very publicly dealing with serious health issues, MOST people would be cautious and not go in for a hug without asking if it’s okay, and that’s not an exchange that’s going to happen in that moment. As a person who suffers from a rare autoimmune disease and is VERY sensitive to touch when I’m flaring up especially, but just in general too, people know this and always ask “can I hug you?”, and I’ll tell them yes or just say ‘not right now, having a rough day”. Taylor knows Celine, they’re not strangers, it’s incredibly weird & petty that people aren’t assuming she’s just being kind & respectful to her friend who’s going through a lot right now. They’re actively creating drama that isn’t there. Nobody needed to tell Taylor anything before the show, it’s a general respectful move to respect people’s space & boundaries when they’re dealing with a chronic condition. Everyone should be doing this for people they know are struggling in this way. It’s literally very painful to have to put up with people who don’t try to understand this & act accordingly.
One thing about the Celine thing: they know each other. They've met multiple times. Who fangirls over someone they know and have met many times? There are literal pictures of them together at various awards etc over the course of the last decade.
I mean, ppl are just assuming they told her not to hug Céline, that’s not confirmed and Céline was standing there for a second. I didn’t think it was a big deal anyway since she wasn’t obligated to hug anyone. I think ppl who already have an irrational hatred for her are using this as an opportunity to express that.
@@SupernaturalLove100she’s been very publicly dealing with serious health issues, MOST people would be cautious and not go in for a hug without asking if it’s okay, and that’s not an exchange that’s going to happen in that moment. As a person who suffers from a rare autoimmune disease and is VERY sensitive to touch when I’m flaring up especially, but just in general too, people know this and always ask “can I hug you?”, and I’ll tell them yes or just say ‘not right now, having a rough day”. Taylor knows Celine, they’re not strangers, it’s incredibly weird & petty that people aren’t assuming she’s just being kind & respectful to her friend who’s going through a lot right now. They’re actively creating drama that isn’t there. Nobody needed to tell Taylor anything before the show, it’s a general respectful move to respect people’s space & boundaries when they’re dealing with a chronic condition. Everyone should be doing this for people they know are struggling in this way. It’s literally very painful to have to put up with people who don’t try to understand this & act accordingly.
Taylor is HUMAN..... she made a mistake. Robin Williams when accepting his Oscar forgot to thank his mother who was in the audience ( he was caught up in the excitement). A snub it was not, it was a human mistake. I would guess she spoke to Celine backstage.
I didn’t even think anything of it when I saw the moment. Why was she obligated to kiss and hug Celine? I mean she was just accepting an award and obviously wasn’t paying attention
I am so confused as to how people are more worried about Taylor not hugging Celine when she was literally in such a highly emotional moment and clearly photographed with her after, but what Jay-Z did is a-okay... Alexa play The Man by Taylor Swift.
Jay Z didn’t do anything but advocate on behalf of his wife, ask the viewers to question how it’s possible that the most awarded and nominated woman in history has yet to win an Album of the Year award, and tell the audience to always show up for themselves until they get what they deserve, Karen. That was a cute attempt though at attempting to demonize a Black artist for doing nothing to victimize your white idol under the guise of “misogyny” tho 😂 Probably why some of you swifties get called rac!st lmao
i wish yall would’ve talked more about the grammys snubbing Black artists bc that is what jayz was talking about. this was a real whitewashed recap of his speech
This is what they ALWAYS do! Lol. They whitewash the facts about and project their misogyny about Jada Pinkett Smith too! They acted in this case like they just had nooo idea he was talking abt bias. Instead they perpetuated the stereotype that he was angry. They do a a disservice for their listeners of colors but their Black listeners in particular and it’s sad. It was so clear what he was talking about. He posed a simple question for us to ponder abt HOW the most awarded hasn’t been awarded AOTY, and they failed to explore that. They couldn’t even applaud him for advocating for his WIFE. It’s micro aggressive at this point.
I love Lana but she has very little support from the voters for the Grammys so I didn't expect it. If she didn't win for NFR, then I don't think she's ever winning AOTY unfortunately
They award popularity first and foremost and then they do so on behalf of race. I also think Lana has long deserves her flowers. How many times can one give it to the same person no matter how great they are?
@@SupernaturalLove100it’s literally Album of the Year😂, so it IS obviously specifically focusing on the album. So, no, it doesn’t matter how many times someone has won. That should honestly be seen as a challenge for everyone else. Midnights was a great album from open to close. Lana’s typically are too. However, too many albums focus too much on singles and not on the album as a whole. It makes a difference in quality, and there’s a reason why you see the same people winning in this category in the years they decide to drop albums, because they put in the work on every track, and it shows. Lana just doesn’t play the game like most people do in the industry. She doesn’t really care to. I like that about her. But it doesn’t get you votes, that’s for sure.
I was hoping Taylor was going to announce Rep TV but she really surprise us with this brand new album. I was in shocked because I was like this was in the work for two years? That was the same time when she wrote the Midnights album. I'm expecting to be a break-up album. The Grammy was fun to watch. Congrats to everyone who won a Grammy including Taylor for winning her fourth album of the year which is amazing to see.
I remember an official article coming out LAST YEAR when Renaissance which was a cultural movement in pop culture somehow lost to Harry Styles’ record, where they interviewed Grammy voters and they explained they didn’t vote Beyoncé’s way bc they felt her fans and the public were too entitled to her winning and bc she wins “too much.” It was all over twitter. People seem to have forgotten and really it should’ve been all over the fking media when it was released. They, however, don’t apply the same standard when it comes to awarding Taylor Swift in comparison, who’s fanbase can be just as rabid and entitled as Beyoncé’s fanbase, I WONDER why that is when they’ve awarded her AOTY 4x already 🤔 She’s wonderful but WHY the double standard? What’s the difference betw both women? I’ll wait. I enjoy your guys’ show but not when you speak about folks of color. Y’all including Noah have a tendency in acting like deliberately 0btuse wh!te ppl when you want to. Exploring these conundrums wouldn’t b of any benefit to you or the woman you stan so you opt to lazily disregard a point a Black artist makes about bias and a flaw in metrics. You can’t even applaud him for advocating on behalf of his wife. What’s your guys problem exactly? 🤔 Lol.
does anyone think that maybe taylor didnt hug here because she was scared, she would hurt her physically. i think it was pure shock on the win and she was just lot for a bit.
Someone said that April 19th is the day that America declared independence from Britain with actual shots fired. That's terrific if that's actually strategic.
Grammy nom time frame was Oct 1, 2022 to Sept 15, 2023. Midnights came out Oct 21st 2022. So, she'll have 1989 TV and the new album (at least since ya never know if there'll be another one) for consideration for the next Grammys. I'd guess Reputation or the orig. TS album won't be till at least October so it hits for the next cycle as she seems to be dropping a new album and a TV both (except last yr only Red came out). The TV albums aren't winning much though so she needs a new album too. Red TV got an AMA and BMA for best album and 1989 got a NAM, and of course ATV 10 min version got lots for short film, etc., but otherwise the TVs aren't winning much, presumably because they won so much the first round. lol Most of her albums have come out in October (6 of them) and 3 in Nov, then July (2), Aug (1), and it'll be 2 in April, so maybe we're getting a surprise August one this year? Or a surprise something...
Taylor seemed disingenuous when she accepted her first award. Felt Cringy to plug a new album, would have like to see a separate announcement after the show. Am always Team Taylor but am disappointed she was not more gracious and humble like she usually is .
You guys need to chill. It was her moment to say anything - it’s her thing to announce her albums at these shows. She is very humble- she doesn’t need to be saying thank you 1000 times to show that. Announcing a new album during your own acceptance speech is perfectly fine. And the Celine thing is honestly a sad reach. She has a public illness and her and Taylor have met many times and hugged back stage. I think everyone needs to relax and let people breathe.
I think she thought she would only win pop vocal album. that's why she announced the new album then. after that she let loose, took off her gloves and started drinking lol
Celine has Stiff Persons Syndrome.. I bet all nominees were advised not to touch or hug the surprise announcer. Sounds silly but she could have gotten hurt & they hugged backstage in a more calm environment!
Surprised there was no mention of Bri during the Grammys recap? She looked beautiful on the red carpet! Pretty big deal, I’m sure she’s the first barstool employee to walk the Grammys red carpet
She’s known Celine Dion for awhile now…. She wasn’t going to be starstruck. I think people are foaming at the mouth to tear this girl down for anything and everything. There was no malice. People need to relax. For all we know she could’ve wanted to give Celine her space being that she has an illness that she probably doesn’t know a lot about, doesn’t know what someone suffering with that is comfortable with. And Lana also won a Grammy for Midnights hence why she was brought on stage. Babes - do👏🏽your👏🏽research. The pettiness is showing. And anyone mad about her 4th win in this genre, lol she is easily one of the hardest working artists in Hollywood right now. There’s zero argument on that and she has proven herself time and time again. The fact she went on tour, released albums, and had another album in the works the whole time. The girl lives and breathes in the studio. Love her or hate her, she’s an enigma.
JZ and Kanye are not doing Beyonce any favors, quite the opposite. Beyonce is super talented to be sure, full stop. Like it or not though, she's not mainstream, universal as Taylor is. Both put out their last albums around the same time in 2022, yet Beyonce isn't on the Hot 100 Billboard list, Taylor is, twice. #3 and #21. Taylor has 118 Guiness World Records, Beyonce has 20. Beyonce won album of the year in her category FIVE times, Taylor only 3 in her category. Taylor won all around album of the year 4 times because she's mainstream, not R&B, which is more niche and her stuff is just THAT freaking good and innovative and outsells everyone. Only other woman who won it multiple times is Adele with two, the other 4 were 3 men (Sinatra/Wonder/Paul Simon) and the group U2. Sure we all know Single Ladies and Crazy in Love and maybe a couple other Beyonce songs if we hear them, but most people can name more than a dozen TS songs and have heard most of them on general radio. Beyonce came on scene only 3 yrs before Taylor and has had 79 Grammy noms and 29 wins. That's 37% wins. She's not getting snubbed. 29 Grammys is a LOT and it's a record for the MOST won by an artist ever! lol Most of her wins are for individual songs that were big hits rather than whole albums though. Taylor won 14 of 52, that's only 27%. However, Taylor is one of only 2 women who have been on the Billboard top 100 more than 100 times (other is Nicki Minaj at 147), Taylor 252 times. Beyonce isn't on that list at all (JZ and Kanye are). Only 16 people are on that list, 2 women. Taylor is number TWO behind Drake (328 times). Taylor is the ONLY artist to ever capture all 10 of the top 10 spots on the Hot 100 list at the same time. Taylor's Midnights album had EVERY song on it in the top 15 at the SAME time (taking all top 10 spots) and the extra 7 songs from the 3am album version were also on the list at the same time, that's 2 albums fully on the chart at the same time! Never happened before for any artist. So while Beyonce is super talented, she's just not at the same level as Taylor. And while she has written some of her songs, most of them are co-written with a long list of co-writers. So JZ and Kanye need to sit down and STFU about it. Beyonce will get AOTY when she writes a mainstream album that everybody knows about and loves, particularly the voters in the academy. One or two good songs on an album doesn't win the album award outside your category. Whitney Houston, Natalie Cole, Lauren Hill, Stevie Wonder (who won AOTY 3 Times!), Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie, Quincy Jones, Outkast, Ray Charles, Herbie Hancock, and Jon Batiste have all won it, maybe she should take some tips from them. She's not Whitney Houston folks. She's had 7 albums to Taylor's 14 with 3 extra years in the industry, maybe she should record some good music? Work harder? Interact with her fans more? Beyonce is most known for who she is rather than the music she makes, other than her two biggest hits, whereas Taylor is known for her unique songwriting style, continually innovative projects, over the top videos, which she writes and directs and conceptualizes, diverse music style, tireless work ethic, best concerts out there that are the most creative and fan-focused and record-breaking on every level, and just being a badass powerhouse in a male-dominated industry making a huge difference for ALL artists, esp the women. Beyonce is mostly JZs wife with a couple big hits and most of her songs that make the top 100 are cameos on other artists songs or collabs. Seriously...they need to stop. She's great, she's just never gonna be Taylor Freaking Swift great and I'm tired of these ridiculous men attempting to minimize her contribution to the industry. It's insulting to Beyonce's talent and Taylor's hard work and just highlights that Taylor has her beat on nearly every level. They have the same amount of followers essentially (382m Taylor, 381.2m Beyonce, excluding Twitter as I couldn't get it to load just now so just FB/IG/TT), so if Taylor is so far ahead of her on streams, hits, selling 114m albums to Beyonce's 30.5m, then well, she needs to pay better attention to her fans so they buy/listen to her music more, no? That's not Taylor's fault and it's not racism, it's just Beyonce not doing the work she needs to do to get where apparently her husband wants her to be. OK, rant over. I feel better. Geez...these fools are just going to make sure people DON'T vote for Beyonce and that's just a shame.
They do similarly to Jada Pinkett Smith as well every time she comes up; they demonize and villainize her as if she told Will Smith to slap Chris Rock or as if she cheated on Will despite the public statements in which they both stated that they were separated at the time, that Will has ALSO been w other women which he admitted in that SAME red table talk interview and then his autobiography and that Jada asked Will’s permission to date August. Lol. When would any husband ask his wife for permission? Never. Them and Noah included need to just not discuss Blk people on their show bc they choose when to do their due diligence and when to b biased. They get it wrong every time and it’s insulting but also DELIBERATELY OBTUSE at this point. I’d even say micro aggressive. This is a very yt washed recap of what Jay Z said. They act like they don’t know about “bias.”
@@SupernaturalLove100yea this was messy of them. With that said, Jay Z could’ve made his point in a more polite manner. He straight up insulted some of these folks on live tv in a crowded room 😅. With that said, yes, the Grammys need to do better.
Listening to this remind me of something... "ah ya... high school bullies" picking up successful girl like Taylor Swift... Different is, you are much older to be much wiser... Several times you said you're swifties turn out just poking on her every move negatively. I guess you're just thirsty of clicks and money. Tht's why you keep posting about her.
Agree, this was my least fav of all Taylor's looks. She's normally so 1000% perfection and this look just made no sense and the hair was 3 days in at Burning Man. Indeed elements were lovely, but the whole thing deserved a fired stylist. Taylor is stunning no matter what, but the look was not good. FULLY shocked out of my seat at the album announcement as it's just not how she usually titles her albums and I also expected either Reputation or the 'lost' Karma album not this left turn. When she went up to get the award from Celine, something happened behind her and she looked back as she was getting the award from Celine so I give her grace for the distraction and trying to get on track and say her speech in the few seconds allotted. They got to hang backstage and I'm sure Taylor gushed all over her. It was pretty damn epic to see Celine onstage though which I'm grateful for. She looked amazing. Maybe Taylor was making sure Kanye wasn't on stage, lol though it seemed maybe JZ was the one to keep an eye out for. lol They get so bent every time Beyonce doesn't win something.
I felt like Lana should have won. I also didn't care for Taylor not acknowledging Celine Dion on stage. I get that she was excited, and posed for a picture with her backstage but still, she just kinda took the award from her and walked away lol. Barely made eye contact.
She was obviously distracted. And who cares? Why was she obligated to kiss and hug Celine????? She’s accepting an award from a presenter. People who don’t like Taylor are seemingly just using it as an opportunity to demonize her
@@SupernaturalLove100 I like Taylor. I just thought it was weird how she barely acknowledged a legend on stage. Excited or not, I'd think she would at least make eye contact with someone who helped pave the way for artists like her.
@@StoneColdSteveAutism95 ..she was obviously distracted, did you miss that part? & not everyone is a huge fan of Céline just like not everyone is a huge fan of Beyoncé, probably why she wasn’t star struck. I don’t think she did anything wrong. Again, people are taking the opportunity to demonize a woman they already hate or resent over nothing lol and her and Céline have met a thousand times already
@@SupernaturalLove100 Distracted by what? Lol. And Celine Dion is a legend who was making her first public appearance since her diagnosis, the fact that she was there presenting an award is enough to give her acknowledgment while she's on stage. It has nothing to do with being a fan or being "starstruck", it's just common courtesy to at least look at someone in the eyes when they hand you an award. Especially when that someone has done so much for female musicians.
@@alliee8488oh plz, NOW you're complaining about lana being dragged, R u serious???? You make it sound like the lana was being violated.... Geez, Damn this woman reeeeally gets hate for the smallest SHIT
Are Swift fans okay with Travis not being there for Taylor at the Grammy’s? He has to focus on the SB, but she has definitively gone out of her way to see him.
@@averyportillo8186 I was thinking that he could show up but he was saying that it was a traveling day for the team. Travis needs to focus, but I think after this game he will travel around with her showing love and support…she deserves it
Ts11: Also the logo for the album has a half ☯️ying yang sign in the P and D: Ts11 being the lost karma album and the other/🤍white part to the 🖤black reputation album… therefore she had to Announce it before rep tv so the lost karma ts 11 album is in the right order now like it was supposed to.🤓😁
What he said was actually smart and thought provoking. This is a very yt response tho. Not surprised. He alluded to bias and challenged people to question how those metrics are possible to be the most historically awarded and yet not ever having won AOTY and you deliberately obtuse rac!sts are disregarding the logic in what he said bc y’all don’t wanna see Blk people more than you have to lol good thing the majority of people aren’t as br@inle*s.
Projection is a mf; you reek of that. You just told us how smart you are, lol. You like to deflect when it comes to racial matters and don’t have the range to even consider what he was saying bc you’re yt washed 💀
@@SupernaturalLove100 wtf you even talking about. Nothing about what you just rambled made any sense. Why he even show up to the grammys if he's just gonna rip them like that. Is it not possible for somebody to have a great song but not a great album? Which Beyonce has had plenty of.
Lana also wins a grammy for midnights because of snow on the beach. that's why taylor brought her up. she even mentioned her in her acceptance speech. it was very sweet. also the Celine thing is so ridiculous. maybe taylor didn't hug her cuz of Celine's disease. so she waited to ask her if it was ok backstage.
Absolutely....she is the nicest person in the room. How ridiculous that taylor not hugging Celine is rude but JAY Z basically insulting everyone is cool. Need to change your perspective people
Unfortunately the ruling has changed so she does not get a Grammy for her feature
Girl she's part of the album... She's not there as a friend. She's part of it!
Stop making drama between two succesful women who are good friends!
Celine has been very publicly dealing with serious health issues, MOST people would be cautious and not go in for a hug without asking if it’s okay, and that’s not an exchange that’s going to happen in that moment.
As a person who suffers from a rare autoimmune disease and is VERY sensitive to touch when I’m flaring up especially, but just in general too, people know this and always ask “can I hug you?”, and I’ll tell them yes or just say ‘not right now, having a rough day”.
Taylor knows Celine, they’re not strangers, it’s incredibly weird & petty that people aren’t assuming she’s just being kind & respectful to her friend who’s going through a lot right now. They’re actively creating drama that isn’t there.
Nobody needed to tell Taylor anything before the show, it’s a general respectful move to respect people’s space & boundaries when they’re dealing with a chronic condition. Everyone should be doing this for people they know are struggling in this way.
It’s literally very painful to have to put up with people who don’t try to understand this & act accordingly.
One thing about the Celine thing: they know each other. They've met multiple times. Who fangirls over someone they know and have met many times? There are literal pictures of them together at various awards etc over the course of the last decade.
Plastic Hearts by Miley Cyrus deserved so much, it still keeps me up at night how it didn't win a Grammy
1 they told them not to hug Celine and Lana was part of midnights and also she wanted to give her a shout out im just tired of all the hate
I mean, ppl are just assuming they told her not to hug Céline, that’s not confirmed and Céline was standing there for a second. I didn’t think it was a big deal anyway since she wasn’t obligated to hug anyone. I think ppl who already have an irrational hatred for her are using this as an opportunity to express that.
@@SupernaturalLove100she’s been very publicly dealing with serious health issues, MOST people would be cautious and not go in for a hug without asking if it’s okay, and that’s not an exchange that’s going to happen in that moment.
As a person who suffers from a rare autoimmune disease and is VERY sensitive to touch when I’m flaring up especially, but just in general too, people know this and always ask “can I hug you?”, and I’ll tell them yes or just say ‘not right now, having a rough day”.
Taylor knows Celine, they’re not strangers, it’s incredibly weird & petty that people aren’t assuming she’s just being kind & respectful to her friend who’s going through a lot right now. They’re actively creating drama that isn’t there.
Nobody needed to tell Taylor anything before the show, it’s a general respectful move to respect people’s space & boundaries when they’re dealing with a chronic condition. Everyone should be doing this for people they know are struggling in this way.
It’s literally very painful to have to put up with people who don’t try to understand this & act accordingly.
Taylor is HUMAN..... she made a mistake. Robin Williams when accepting his Oscar forgot to thank his mother who was in the audience ( he was caught up in the excitement). A snub it was not, it was a human mistake. I would guess she spoke to Celine backstage.
I didn’t even think anything of it when I saw the moment. Why was she obligated to kiss and hug Celine? I mean she was just accepting an award and obviously wasn’t paying attention
I am so confused as to how people are more worried about Taylor not hugging Celine when she was literally in such a highly emotional moment and clearly photographed with her after, but what Jay-Z did is a-okay... Alexa play The Man by Taylor Swift.
Jay Z didn’t do anything but advocate on behalf of his wife, ask the viewers to question how it’s possible that the most awarded and nominated woman in history has yet to win an Album of the Year award, and tell the audience to always show up for themselves until they get what they deserve, Karen. That was a cute attempt though at attempting to demonize a Black artist for doing nothing to victimize your white idol under the guise of “misogyny” tho 😂 Probably why some of you swifties get called rac!st lmao
This is the first time I can say this in years: I was thoroughly entertained by that entire show. It was excellent!
Lana won a Grammy for Midnights too because it also goes to featured artists of the winning album.
This isn’t true unfortunately. That rule was changed
In the past that would have been true, but the rules changed and featured artists must be on 20% or more of the album
No she gets a certificate not an actual Grammy
Not true the academy have changed the rules u have to be featured or production wise atleast 20% of the album!!
i wish yall would’ve talked more about the grammys snubbing Black artists bc that is what jayz was talking about. this was a real whitewashed recap of his speech
This is what they ALWAYS do! Lol. They whitewash the facts about and project their misogyny about Jada Pinkett Smith too! They acted in this case like they just had nooo idea he was talking abt bias. Instead they perpetuated the stereotype that he was angry. They do a a disservice for their listeners of colors but their Black listeners in particular and it’s sad. It was so clear what he was talking about. He posed a simple question for us to ponder abt HOW the most awarded hasn’t been awarded AOTY, and they failed to explore that. They couldn’t even applaud him for advocating for his WIFE. It’s micro aggressive at this point.
I think she just wanted to acknowledge Lana and she has stated she is an inspiration of hers
Yall to dramatic she literally left the stage hand in hand with her the women broke history she was exited
Can Ria please share her hair products and routine because in the past year or two her hair has become absolutely stunning and goals
I have been thinking of this for the past few months!!! So shiny !
I was hoping Lana would win, tbh. I thought it was way better than Midnights
I love Lana but she has very little support from the voters for the Grammys so I didn't expect it. If she didn't win for NFR, then I don't think she's ever winning AOTY unfortunately
@@Ashley-bj3sl Yeah, I didn't expect it either, but I was still holding out hope lol. I would have been fine with GUTS winning, though.
@@WoahLookAtThatFreakwell, midnights won, and for I am happy for taylor she won cause she deserves Every win coming her way...
They award popularity first and foremost and then they do so on behalf of race. I also think Lana has long deserves her flowers. How many times can one give it to the same person no matter how great they are?
@@SupernaturalLove100it’s literally Album of the Year😂, so it IS obviously specifically focusing on the album. So, no, it doesn’t matter how many times someone has won. That should honestly be seen as a challenge for everyone else. Midnights was a great album from open to close.
Lana’s typically are too.
However, too many albums focus too much on singles and not on the album as a whole. It makes a difference in quality, and there’s a reason why you see the same people winning in this category in the years they decide to drop albums, because they put in the work on every track, and it shows.
Lana just doesn’t play the game like most people do in the industry. She doesn’t really care to. I like that about her. But it doesn’t get you votes, that’s for sure.
I was hoping Taylor was going to announce Rep TV but she really surprise us with this brand new album. I was in shocked because I was like this was in the work for two years? That was the same time when she wrote the Midnights album. I'm expecting to be a break-up album. The Grammy was fun to watch. Congrats to everyone who won a Grammy including Taylor for winning her fourth album of the year which is amazing to see.
I remember an official article coming out LAST YEAR when Renaissance which was a cultural movement in pop culture somehow lost to Harry Styles’ record, where they interviewed Grammy voters and they explained they didn’t vote Beyoncé’s way bc they felt her fans and the public were too entitled to her winning and bc she wins “too much.” It was all over twitter. People seem to have forgotten and really it should’ve been all over the fking media when it was released. They, however, don’t apply the same standard when it comes to awarding Taylor Swift in comparison, who’s fanbase can be just as rabid and entitled as Beyoncé’s fanbase, I WONDER why that is when they’ve awarded her AOTY 4x already 🤔
She’s wonderful but WHY the double standard? What’s the difference betw both women? I’ll wait. I enjoy your guys’ show but not when you speak about folks of color. Y’all including Noah have a tendency in acting like deliberately 0btuse wh!te ppl when you want to. Exploring these conundrums wouldn’t b of any benefit to you or the woman you stan so you opt to lazily disregard a point a Black artist makes about bias and a flaw in metrics. You can’t even applaud him for advocating on behalf of his wife. What’s your guys problem exactly? 🤔 Lol.
fran where did you get your blush cargo pants?
does anyone think that maybe taylor didnt hug here because she was scared, she would hurt her physically. i think it was pure shock on the win and she was just lot for a bit.
Someone said that April 19th is the day that America declared independence from Britain with actual shots fired. That's terrific if that's actually strategic.
Grammy nom time frame was Oct 1, 2022 to Sept 15, 2023. Midnights came out Oct 21st 2022. So, she'll have 1989 TV and the new album (at least since ya never know if there'll be another one) for consideration for the next Grammys. I'd guess Reputation or the orig. TS album won't be till at least October so it hits for the next cycle as she seems to be dropping a new album and a TV both (except last yr only Red came out). The TV albums aren't winning much though so she needs a new album too. Red TV got an AMA and BMA for best album and 1989 got a NAM, and of course ATV 10 min version got lots for short film, etc., but otherwise the TVs aren't winning much, presumably because they won so much the first round. lol Most of her albums have come out in October (6 of them) and 3 in Nov, then July (2), Aug (1), and it'll be 2 in April, so maybe we're getting a surprise August one this year? Or a surprise something...
Miley literally got her flowers for Flowers❤
Taylor seemed disingenuous when she accepted her first award. Felt Cringy to plug a new album, would have like to see a separate announcement after the show. Am always Team Taylor but am disappointed she was not more gracious and humble like she usually is .
Yes. I like humble Taylor more..it rubbed me the wrong way...her promo first and then the Celine thing...
You guys need to chill. It was her moment to say anything - it’s her thing to announce her albums at these shows. She is very humble- she doesn’t need to be saying thank you 1000 times to show that. Announcing a new album during your own acceptance speech is perfectly fine. And the Celine thing is honestly a sad reach. She has a public illness and her and Taylor have met many times and hugged back stage. I think everyone needs to relax and let people breathe.
COLUMBUS FANNNN TYSM FOR COMING ❤❤❤❤
Honestly, no shade, but I do think Taylor was just a little bit tipsy by the end.
I think she thought she would only win pop vocal album. that's why she announced the new album then. after that she let loose, took off her gloves and started drinking lol
Oh people ARE mad about Taylor “ignoring” Celine Dion
the biggest tension ladies was concerning Taylor and Joni Mithcell.
Celine has Stiff Persons Syndrome.. I bet all nominees were advised not to touch or hug the surprise announcer. Sounds silly but she could have gotten hurt & they hugged backstage in a more calm environment!
Surprised there was no mention of Bri during the Grammys recap? She looked beautiful on the red carpet! Pretty big deal, I’m sure she’s the first barstool employee to walk the Grammys red carpet
They shouted her out
The talked about her and Zach and even showed a picture of her outfit
The way yall are talking about McDonald's is hilarious. 😂
At least it wasn't BetterHelp or Hello Fresh. Props for that.
I read that they were told not to hug Celine because her illness
But that wasn’t confirmed I don’t think. I think that’s the fans just tryna defend Taylor from the hatred
She’s known Celine Dion for awhile now…. She wasn’t going to be starstruck. I think people are foaming at the mouth to tear this girl down for anything and everything. There was no malice. People need to relax. For all we know she could’ve wanted to give Celine her space being that she has an illness that she probably doesn’t know a lot about, doesn’t know what someone suffering with that is comfortable with. And Lana also won a Grammy for Midnights hence why she was brought on stage. Babes - do👏🏽your👏🏽research. The pettiness is showing. And anyone mad about her 4th win in this genre, lol she is easily one of the hardest working artists in Hollywood right now. There’s zero argument on that and she has proven herself time and time again. The fact she went on tour, released albums, and had another album in the works the whole time. The girl lives and breathes in the studio. Love her or hate her, she’s an enigma.
JZ and Kanye are not doing Beyonce any favors, quite the opposite. Beyonce is super talented to be sure, full stop. Like it or not though, she's not mainstream, universal as Taylor is. Both put out their last albums around the same time in 2022, yet Beyonce isn't on the Hot 100 Billboard list, Taylor is, twice. #3 and #21. Taylor has 118 Guiness World Records, Beyonce has 20. Beyonce won album of the year in her category FIVE times, Taylor only 3 in her category. Taylor won all around album of the year 4 times because she's mainstream, not R&B, which is more niche and her stuff is just THAT freaking good and innovative and outsells everyone. Only other woman who won it multiple times is Adele with two, the other 4 were 3 men (Sinatra/Wonder/Paul Simon) and the group U2. Sure we all know Single Ladies and Crazy in Love and maybe a couple other Beyonce songs if we hear them, but most people can name more than a dozen TS songs and have heard most of them on general radio. Beyonce came on scene only 3 yrs before Taylor and has had 79 Grammy noms and 29 wins. That's 37% wins. She's not getting snubbed. 29 Grammys is a LOT and it's a record for the MOST won by an artist ever! lol Most of her wins are for individual songs that were big hits rather than whole albums though. Taylor won 14 of 52, that's only 27%. However, Taylor is one of only 2 women who have been on the Billboard top 100 more than 100 times (other is Nicki Minaj at 147), Taylor 252 times. Beyonce isn't on that list at all (JZ and Kanye are). Only 16 people are on that list, 2 women. Taylor is number TWO behind Drake (328 times). Taylor is the ONLY artist to ever capture all 10 of the top 10 spots on the Hot 100 list at the same time. Taylor's Midnights album had EVERY song on it in the top 15 at the SAME time (taking all top 10 spots) and the extra 7 songs from the 3am album version were also on the list at the same time, that's 2 albums fully on the chart at the same time! Never happened before for any artist. So while Beyonce is super talented, she's just not at the same level as Taylor. And while she has written some of her songs, most of them are co-written with a long list of co-writers. So JZ and Kanye need to sit down and STFU about it. Beyonce will get AOTY when she writes a mainstream album that everybody knows about and loves, particularly the voters in the academy. One or two good songs on an album doesn't win the album award outside your category. Whitney Houston, Natalie Cole, Lauren Hill, Stevie Wonder (who won AOTY 3 Times!), Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie, Quincy Jones, Outkast, Ray Charles, Herbie Hancock, and Jon Batiste have all won it, maybe she should take some tips from them. She's not Whitney Houston folks. She's had 7 albums to Taylor's 14 with 3 extra years in the industry, maybe she should record some good music? Work harder? Interact with her fans more? Beyonce is most known for who she is rather than the music she makes, other than her two biggest hits, whereas Taylor is known for her unique songwriting style, continually innovative projects, over the top videos, which she writes and directs and conceptualizes, diverse music style, tireless work ethic, best concerts out there that are the most creative and fan-focused and record-breaking on every level, and just being a badass powerhouse in a male-dominated industry making a huge difference for ALL artists, esp the women. Beyonce is mostly JZs wife with a couple big hits and most of her songs that make the top 100 are cameos on other artists songs or collabs. Seriously...they need to stop. She's great, she's just never gonna be Taylor Freaking Swift great and I'm tired of these ridiculous men attempting to minimize her contribution to the industry. It's insulting to Beyonce's talent and Taylor's hard work and just highlights that Taylor has her beat on nearly every level. They have the same amount of followers essentially (382m Taylor, 381.2m Beyonce, excluding Twitter as I couldn't get it to load just now so just FB/IG/TT), so if Taylor is so far ahead of her on streams, hits, selling 114m albums to Beyonce's 30.5m, then well, she needs to pay better attention to her fans so they buy/listen to her music more, no? That's not Taylor's fault and it's not racism, it's just Beyonce not doing the work she needs to do to get where apparently her husband wants her to be. OK, rant over. I feel better. Geez...these fools are just going to make sure people DON'T vote for Beyonce and that's just a shame.
Yes Ria! Miley is an icon.
48:09 there is no law sue ppl we would know but i think their teems talked for sure
They made Sofia Vergara look like Luann de Lesseps
I know y’all aren’t feeding the “angry Black folks” stereotype…cmon
They do similarly to Jada Pinkett Smith as well every time she comes up; they demonize and villainize her as if she told Will Smith to slap Chris Rock or as if she cheated on Will despite the public statements in which they both stated that they were separated at the time, that Will has ALSO been w other women which he admitted in that SAME red table talk interview and then his autobiography and that Jada asked Will’s permission to date August. Lol. When would any husband ask his wife for permission? Never. Them and Noah included need to just not discuss Blk people on their show bc they choose when to do their due diligence and when to b biased. They get it wrong every time and it’s insulting but also DELIBERATELY OBTUSE at this point. I’d even say micro aggressive. This is a very yt washed recap of what Jay Z said. They act like they don’t know about “bias.”
@@SupernaturalLove100yea this was messy of them. With that said, Jay Z could’ve made his point in a more polite manner. He straight up insulted some of these folks on live tv in a crowded room 😅. With that said, yes, the Grammys need to do better.
Listening to this remind me of something... "ah ya... high school bullies" picking up successful girl like Taylor Swift...
Different is, you are much older to be much wiser...
Several times you said you're swifties turn out just poking on her every move negatively.
I guess you're just thirsty of clicks and money. Tht's why you keep posting about her.
Celine has stiff persons disease Taylor was being respectful bc it’s a painful disease and she did the right thing
People are riping Taylor apart she was overwellm
Kaitlin Reagan from Tiktok was a one less lonely girl!
Agree, this was my least fav of all Taylor's looks. She's normally so 1000% perfection and this look just made no sense and the hair was 3 days in at Burning Man. Indeed elements were lovely, but the whole thing deserved a fired stylist. Taylor is stunning no matter what, but the look was not good. FULLY shocked out of my seat at the album announcement as it's just not how she usually titles her albums and I also expected either Reputation or the 'lost' Karma album not this left turn. When she went up to get the award from Celine, something happened behind her and she looked back as she was getting the award from Celine so I give her grace for the distraction and trying to get on track and say her speech in the few seconds allotted. They got to hang backstage and I'm sure Taylor gushed all over her. It was pretty damn epic to see Celine onstage though which I'm grateful for. She looked amazing.
Maybe Taylor was making sure Kanye wasn't on stage, lol though it seemed maybe JZ was the one to keep an eye out for. lol They get so bent every time Beyonce doesn't win something.
JZ pulled a Kanye. Poor sportsmanship in front of his daughter.
Karol G and Peso Pluma won too
I felt like Lana should have won. I also didn't care for Taylor not acknowledging Celine Dion on stage. I get that she was excited, and posed for a picture with her backstage but still, she just kinda took the award from her and walked away lol. Barely made eye contact.
She was obviously distracted. And who cares? Why was she obligated to kiss and hug Celine????? She’s accepting an award from a presenter. People who don’t like Taylor are seemingly just using it as an opportunity to demonize her
@@SupernaturalLove100 I like Taylor. I just thought it was weird how she barely acknowledged a legend on stage. Excited or not, I'd think she would at least make eye contact with someone who helped pave the way for artists like her.
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..she was obviously distracted, did you miss that part? & not everyone is a huge fan of Céline just like not everyone is a huge fan of Beyoncé, probably why she wasn’t star struck. I don’t think she did anything wrong. Again, people are taking the opportunity to demonize a woman they already hate or resent over nothing lol and her and Céline have met a thousand times already
@@SupernaturalLove100 Distracted by what? Lol. And Celine Dion is a legend who was making her first public appearance since her diagnosis, the fact that she was there presenting an award is enough to give her acknowledgment while she's on stage. It has nothing to do with being a fan or being "starstruck", it's just common courtesy to at least look at someone in the eyes when they hand you an award. Especially when that someone has done so much for female musicians.
I think it’s too obvious that it’s a drag of Joe. I don’t think it’s going to be much. I think it’s a colab
Dragging Lana on stage is Exhibit A, for me, of Taylor being out of touch with her power… bit of a god complex
Lana collaborated on Taylor’s album…acknowledgement for contributing to the album’s success.
@@maramash3196I’m referring to the part about dragging Lana up against her will
She put a g*n to Lana’s skull? When? Must’ve missed that. You saying she has a complex is just projection of ur general distaste for her
@@alliee8488oh plz, NOW you're complaining about lana being dragged, R u serious???? You make it sound like the lana was being violated.... Geez, Damn this woman reeeeally gets hate for the smallest SHIT
She forced her up on stage? Lana had no choice? Taylor had a we@pon? So full of it lol y’all just envy this lady and demonize her for whatever
Are Swift fans okay with Travis not being there for Taylor at the Grammy’s? He has to focus on the SB, but she has definitively gone out of her way to see him.
@@Amanda679-pg9dx okay cool. My point wasn’t about Travis, but rather that she needs support too.
Uh yeah he’s playing in the Super Bowl I think he’s fine (and said on Pat mcafee he wish he could)
@@averyportillo8186 I was thinking that he could show up but he was saying that it was a traveling day for the team. Travis needs to focus, but I think after this game he will travel around with her showing love and support…she deserves it
Ts11: Also the logo for the album has a half ☯️ying yang sign in the P and D:
Ts11 being the lost karma album and the other/🤍white part to the 🖤black reputation album…
therefore she had to
Announce it before rep tv so the lost karma ts 11 album is in the right order now like it was supposed to.🤓😁
Georgia Steele reminds me of bri. Not in looks. But in personality. Gaslight/gatekeep af
Jay Z is corny and sounded so lame with his rant. Also dojo cat had the worst look of the night
What he said was actually smart and thought provoking. This is a very yt response tho. Not surprised. He alluded to bias and challenged people to question how those metrics are possible to be the most historically awarded and yet not ever having won AOTY and you deliberately obtuse rac!sts are disregarding the logic in what he said bc y’all don’t wanna see Blk people more than you have to lol good thing the majority of people aren’t as br@inle*s.
Projection is a mf; you reek of that. You just told us how smart you are, lol. You like to deflect when it comes to racial matters and don’t have the range to even consider what he was saying bc you’re yt washed 💀
@@SupernaturalLove100 wtf you even talking about. Nothing about what you just rambled made any sense. Why he even show up to the grammys if he's just gonna rip them like that. Is it not possible for somebody to have a great song but not a great album? Which Beyonce has had plenty of.
GEORGIA STEELE. I cannot watch her anymore!