The Ruy Lopez - Beginner Breakdown - 2014.08.12

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2014
  • Mike Kummer looks at the correct way to play the Spanish, or the Ruy Lopez. You will also see common incorrect play from his students.
    Games include:
    C69 Ruy Lopez, exchange variation, Alapin gambit
    C70 Ruy Lopez, Caro variation
    C50 Giuoco Piano

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  • @melaniepax
    @melaniepax 7 років тому +170

    Some of us are relative beginners and very much appreciate him taking the time to help us. He is wonderful.

  • @davidkim5076
    @davidkim5076 8 років тому +274

    A lot of unfair negative comments. The vid is titled "beginner breakdown." If you understand the Ruy Lopez enough to criticize the guy, probably not the video for you to watch or comment on.

    • @ishine4him140
      @ishine4him140 7 років тому +16

      Thank you! Exactly what I was thinking. Most of these people are either advanced players saying it is too easy or jerks with too much time and a bad attitude.

    • @robinpowell1185
      @robinpowell1185 4 роки тому +1

      The spanish game is the best in my opinion this guy is i master player and to be the best you need to adaped and chang your play style to deff strstagys to maby the gambit or birlin in the midle of the game or like the spanish game a pro already knows the combination moves your going to do queen pawn then hourse then bishop but to trip him up throw out your horse mabe a mini gambit and the queen pawn then bishop so us begeners is ok with only one style were not trying to be the best but to perfect one style is good enough for me.

  • @khanditadevidasi4530
    @khanditadevidasi4530 7 років тому +85

    I'm a beginner and I'm learning a heck of a lot from him. He's also hilarious and fun to watch!

  • @WhateverYouLove
    @WhateverYouLove 5 років тому +56

    While I don't know if a 1700 player should be teaching, do consider that he is teaching complete beginners, and consider that when you criticize what he recommends.
    He says 4.Bxc6 is better than 4.Ba4. We all know that this is not true, because at the GM level they play 4.Ba4 all the time-at GM level. Turns out 4.Ba4 has nauseatingly long opening theory you have to learn to play it well, something that GMs know but beginners definitely don't. When you're just learning to play the game, playing the Ruy Exchange is much better than the infinitely complex Ba4, even though in theory Ba4 is better and gives White a slightly better position, this only applies if both players are playing close to perfect play every move, and this never happens at beginner level.
    Also, 5.O-O is perfectly fine in the Ruy Exchange, but again, not for beginners. The Alapin Gambit is a completely fine and defensible position for White, but it involves some counter-intuitive moves and beginners would have to learn the theory to not fall into the very mating motif presented in the video. Again, why would you rather teach beginners all those complicated variations that could arise from 5.O-O when you could simply have them play 5.h3 instead? It might lead to a slightly worse position, in theory and with perfect play, but for beginners this will be a much better move that allows them to avoid tricky lines such as the Alapin Gambit and to focus instead of learning the game.
    Beginners in general should not be playing the Ruy, and would benefit more from playing something like the Giuoco Piano. They're learning basic chess principles, and it's much more productive for them to learn first and foremost not to blunder, then tactics, tactics, tactics, strategy, positional play. It's far too early for them to be going down the Ruy Lopez main line rabbit hole, they should be learning basic opening principles only and not memorizing 20+ moves of Ruy in order to play the theoretical "best" line.
    That said, I agree that Mike Kummer should add some disclaimers before he makes his controversial claims, for example it would be better for him to say: "4.Ba4 is good, but 4.Bxc6 is better at your level because it's simpler, etc." I can see why people get mad at him saying that the main lines are terrible moves, it is absurd to say that, but he's working on the context of beginners so it's understandable that he wants them to avoid the complicated main lines for now and focus on the fundamentals instead.

    • @dexterpagnini1145
      @dexterpagnini1145 5 років тому +5

      @Thiago da Silva. You've taken the time to post a well written, balanced and helpful critique. Well done! Thank you!

  • @bejakyeah
    @bejakyeah 8 років тому +167

    This is a beginner tutorial for beginners.
    I think it is a little bit unfair to be hard on what he is teaching.
    He is trying to develop reasoning of younger students rather than teach outright brilliant chess theory.

    • @tomrose2086
      @tomrose2086 7 років тому +21

      Agreed. So many people on UA-cam are berks that just like to take every opportunity to insult someone or to denigrate their work.

    • @get_downed_boi6270
      @get_downed_boi6270 5 років тому +2

      I’m pretty sure y’all can learn something from this. If we all played like this we’d be at his level.

    • @anthonydantestewart9243
      @anthonydantestewart9243 Рік тому

      @@tomrose2086 all the while, they’re often dogshit at chess as well

  • @lubime10
    @lubime10 7 років тому +29

    This guy makes my brain tickle
    and make me feel relax to play chess in such as way thatmy imagination is motivated to take calculated risk and
    to be ware of what going on over the 64 squares.
    Love his style !!!

    • @Astrobrant2
      @Astrobrant2 3 роки тому +1

      "This guy makes my brain tickle"
      Makes my brain itch.

  • @shy4440
    @shy4440 7 років тому +26

    The way he gives a presentation is a little bit hilarious, but the lecture itself is very helpful. I clicked a like button :)

  • @adammccomb2498
    @adammccomb2498 5 років тому +6

    I would watch every class taught by this guy! Simply stunning

  • @ozzyfromspace
    @ozzyfromspace 2 роки тому +2

    This was an incredible beginner class, and I actually learned a lot! Thanks, Mike!

  • @nathanrodriguez7033
    @nathanrodriguez7033 7 років тому +5

    This guy is a great teacher. Thanks for posting this!

  • @ModernArtery
    @ModernArtery 7 років тому +3

    Wow, this guy is hilarious and explains things really well, time to watch basically all of his videos.

    • @EvaPev
      @EvaPev Рік тому

      my thoughts exactly!

  • @tropicaltakedown
    @tropicaltakedown 6 років тому +2

    Really enjoyable video. The guy is really good at engaging newer player

  • @davincerica7232
    @davincerica7232 7 років тому +27

    This guy reminds me of Mr. Mackey from South Park :D nice videos

  • @Jeff-cr9ho
    @Jeff-cr9ho 7 років тому

    awesome tutorial Mike! thank you, it was very helpful

  • @marianonocetti377
    @marianonocetti377 4 роки тому

    excellent tutorial for beginners, very helpful!!

  • @tharindanimnajith3525
    @tharindanimnajith3525 9 років тому +3

    @rosebuster I agree too... But Mike is suggesting the exchange variation because this video is for beginners and Mike might be thinking the beginners may mess up by playing other variations... Further Kasparov & Fischer were never wrong and we all know that they play 2800+ level chess not 900+ level...

  • @benoit421201
    @benoit421201 5 років тому +15

    The teacher starts with ruy lopez but suddenly turns his attention to pawn endings. Priceless!!

  • @samuelgamper6926
    @samuelgamper6926 9 років тому +6

    Just like these Videos. Mike's a great teacher.

    • @TheTechBite
      @TheTechBite 9 років тому

      but he is the video....

    • @junka22
      @junka22 9 років тому

      neiio hahaha, I think he's trying to say that he simply likes these videos like "I just like these videos". But anyway thanks for the laughs. Taking in the Ruy Lopez after a6 is a good move, but I think Ba4 shows up more often in high level play nowadays, I guess these videos are geared towards beginners, maybe Ba4 is more complicated?

  • @baconsogood454
    @baconsogood454 7 років тому +3

    Man oh man! This guy rocks!! I want to learn to play "super good".

  • @midonik16
    @midonik16 9 років тому +12

    I hate how he says that the exchange Ruy Lopez is the best and only choice, and playing Ba4 is seemingly bad... He could at least mention that it's the best on beginner level...

    • @TacticalRab
      @TacticalRab 9 років тому +1

      well on a beginner level the bishop is going to get hit again with b5, giving black some free moves. Personally I think bxc6 is better.

    • @morgansmith6992
      @morgansmith6992 8 років тому +1

      +TheTacticalRabbit - AW Tactics & Strategies except pretty much no one in this century plays it ;) ;) ;)

    • @samsmusichub
      @samsmusichub 5 років тому

      Thus the title of the video, "beginner breakdown."

  • @cesariotarigan5798
    @cesariotarigan5798 8 років тому +6

    I like 5:23 when he said resign is recommended a long time a ago... LOL! Worth to know, Good lecture.

    • @tesone6783
      @tesone6783 3 роки тому

      For me one of the Main lines

    • @b0tm4st3r
      @b0tm4st3r 3 роки тому

      But that´s just plain wrong - even after ...h5, white is still better if he responds with d3 instead of taking the bishop.

  • @TheDudeman3009
    @TheDudeman3009 3 роки тому

    Brilliant teaching!

  • @jamezdizzle23
    @jamezdizzle23 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for the great video. As an 1100 player I play the Ruy Lopez allot. That being said I face it allot as well. Can you please do a video on the Morphy defense and other defensive ideas to thwart white's attack?

  • @paracletusrevelation4080
    @paracletusrevelation4080 5 років тому

    Nice and fun to watch!

  • @adefabrisio8576
    @adefabrisio8576 6 років тому +1

    I was Skeptical about this dude at First but.....I gave him a chance and i LOVE HIS LECTURE...Lit AsF*** ❤💕 👍🏾🔥🔥 😎😎

  • @morgansmith6992
    @morgansmith6992 8 років тому +19

    comedic gold.

  • @vernie7882
    @vernie7882 9 років тому +1

    What if when ure supposed to wait black for the knight c6 and then put bishop b5 and he instead uses the other knight..

  • @vardor
    @vardor 5 років тому

    quick question from a beginner: At 9:03 he notices something regarding "well if this e pawn weren't here it would be black's move"...and he makes some further moves...what did he notice that made it not black's move at that point?

  • @NROS2012
    @NROS2012 6 років тому

    Hi, can you help please? I am trying to help my 8 year old get a little better at his openings (his request). I am curious watching these openings videos because it seems the openings all depend on the opponent doing exactly what you want; as soon as you start the Ruy Lopez and they move h4 (or some other odd non-ideal move) in response, your pre-learned pattern is stuffed... any thoughts please. Thank you. I really enjoyed the video btw, ignore the haters. 😀

  • @suhasprasad7435
    @suhasprasad7435 4 роки тому

    I love this guy!

  • @toddtaylor7228
    @toddtaylor7228 9 років тому +27

    I could see this guy on a SNL skit!!

    • @toddtaylor7228
      @toddtaylor7228 8 років тому +1

      I know!

    • @stephenlee306
      @stephenlee306 4 роки тому +8

      @@toddtaylor7228 you responded to yourself a year later...

    • @sravanparakala9653
      @sravanparakala9653 4 роки тому +1

      Stephen Lee you made a new account didn’t you...

    • @kevinlynch1980
      @kevinlynch1980 3 роки тому

      @@stephenlee306 I laughed too hard at that lmao

  • @Epimetheusful
    @Epimetheusful 2 роки тому

    At 19:05 Rf5 instead of Qxf4 is wrong; isn`t it ? Cause, black has chances for mate from square h2 and c1. Am i wrong ?

  • @aleksapopovic9704
    @aleksapopovic9704 7 років тому +82

    Funny thing is ,i am higher rated than this guy and i still watched most of his lectures,why because he is hilarious.

    • @tobi3003
      @tobi3003 6 років тому +4

      Aleksa Popovic mmmmkay

    • @josefferda9575
      @josefferda9575 5 років тому

      You are a GM? :-D

    • @artificialelectronics8958
      @artificialelectronics8958 5 років тому +12

      Aleksa Popovic so what? Magnus Carlsen coach is lower rated than him and he is still magnus' coach

    • @amir581
      @amir581 5 років тому

      Aleksa Popovi

    • @davictor24
      @davictor24 5 років тому

      @@artificialelectronics8958 a coach is not necessarily a teacher.

  • @sammosammy
    @sammosammy 6 років тому +54

    This man is very suspicious.

  • @shoespeak
    @shoespeak 4 роки тому

    this guy is great!

  • @cezariuszreginia7724
    @cezariuszreginia7724 3 роки тому +1

    at 14:25 when i moved the rook he went k to c5 and its all fucked, am i supposed to come up with a whole different middle game till the end? someone HELP!!!

  • @wooki321
    @wooki321 5 років тому

    i sure love me some roy lopez

  • @user-vl9rt9ij1u
    @user-vl9rt9ij1u 6 років тому

    Why we cannot take pawn on e5 with knight plz responce

  • @maniraj6866
    @maniraj6866 4 роки тому

    Wonderful

  • @spiffaz
    @spiffaz 7 років тому +1

    I thought 4. Ba4 was standard. Is Bxc6 actually considered correct in current theory?

    • @FredPlanatia
      @FredPlanatia Рік тому

      I have the feeling he's teaching the exchange line of the Ruy Lopez. I think Ba4 is fine. After Ba4, black usually plays Nf6.

  • @xdplaya87
    @xdplaya87 7 років тому +1

    21:16 I like Julian's Ne4 idea: it gives Re1 a better chance if you can remove the dark square bishop

  • @moceasar671
    @moceasar671 6 років тому

    nice vid and lecture

  • @anders7451
    @anders7451 5 років тому +1

    Mike Kummer is hilarious :D

  • @baconsogood454
    @baconsogood454 7 років тому +2

    This guy is the lord god of making chess lessons fun.

  • @colemayer6228
    @colemayer6228 9 років тому +7

    isn't Ba4 the main line?

  • @MarcelArtsCW
    @MarcelArtsCW 7 років тому +7

    I'm conflicted... Schrantz said "don't just take stuff"... Now Kummer says "Take stuff, It's fun" xD

    • @FredPlanatia
      @FredPlanatia Рік тому

      Schrantz Schmantz, taking stuff is fun.

  • @baconsogood454
    @baconsogood454 7 років тому

    Damn! I didn't know files could be adjourned!! Seriously though, this guy is cool. Good lesson.

  • @CrueLoaf
    @CrueLoaf 5 років тому

    Love your accent!!

  • @JohnSutcliffe1988
    @JohnSutcliffe1988 8 років тому

    After 4.Bxc6...dxc6 I really don't like his suggestion 5. h3. The reason is black can play 5...c5 (the e5 pawn still indirectly defended) and is absolutely fine. Objectively equal, but I'd even take black in that position. In general, when you can play c5 as black in the exchange without the e5 pawn being removed (taken or traded) you get a really solid and easy to play position. Go Bd6, Ne7 to C6, f6, Be6... etc. You have a nice bind on d4, bishop pair... life is good. Very armonious play. As white, you should put pressure on black's e pawn, forcing him to defend it in a relatively unconfortable way (and/or trade it for your d pawn sooner or later). For example, 5. 0-0 is good. Even 5. d4, 5. Nc3 and 5. d3 are better than 5. h3

  • @LemonChieff
    @LemonChieff 6 років тому

    Well f3 does stop checkmate but so does resigning. The lather doesn't lose more material

  • @thanhdohuu9473
    @thanhdohuu9473 7 років тому

    at 2:54, can't white just let the knight to be taken and develop their pieces intstead? Like d2d3?

  • @juancho7274
    @juancho7274 3 роки тому

    Good vid Buy I was expecting yo ser the variations after b5

  • @ramifarawi6016
    @ramifarawi6016 8 років тому +1

    Does anyone know what app they use to simulate these games?

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld 8 років тому +1

      Rami Farawi It's a program called Fritz I think. There are a few good programs to use, and a few different engines. :)

  • @niharinthselva3613
    @niharinthselva3613 5 років тому +5

    Came here for chess, stayed for this meme.

  • @syyhkyrotta
    @syyhkyrotta 8 років тому

    TY!

  • @YoDan7431
    @YoDan7431 7 років тому +1

    we need a move that stops BOTH checkmates

  • @sankets6954
    @sankets6954 Рік тому

    Which chess app this guy is using for presentation?

  • @jeffweber1860
    @jeffweber1860 7 років тому +1

    Kummer is hilarious.

  • @davidcalhoun217
    @davidcalhoun217 4 роки тому

    I love this guy. But every other theory, they decline the bishop to capture the knight. The bishop always retreats. I don’t understand.

    • @vernond3515
      @vernond3515 3 роки тому

      cos bishops are more powerful than knights on an open board

  • @xdplaya87
    @xdplaya87 7 років тому

    8:13 if the kings can't move, e5 should be met with g5 to stop f4 duh. It should be fairly obvious, geez Mike! What kinda drill is this?

    • @Lentsku
      @Lentsku 7 років тому

      So it would go like W: e5 B: g5 W: g3 B: some random move W: f4 B: g5 captures f4 W: g3 captures f4 and we're in the same position as we would be without the g5 move

  • @mickeymouse1709
    @mickeymouse1709 4 роки тому

    Can you not just play Knight takes e5 to stop the bishop coming to G4?

  • @user-gs6du1ex1b
    @user-gs6du1ex1b 11 місяців тому

    At 22:30 after Rf8 can’t you play Qe8 and it’s forced mate?

  • @gnamvn
    @gnamvn 5 років тому

    What is your soft name?

  • @daliborbrianhanusek2366
    @daliborbrianhanusek2366 6 років тому

    Thanx!

  • @baky_6039
    @baky_6039 7 років тому +1

    37:22 Queen takes h4, white queen recaptures andbblack plays kf3 forking the queen and the king?

  • @elywacime5411
    @elywacime5411 4 роки тому

    Can someone guive me the name of the teacher pllllzz

  • @rudranildutta7807
    @rudranildutta7807 7 років тому

    Can somebody tell me which software they are using?

    • @barthandelus8340
      @barthandelus8340 7 років тому

      Looks like one of the Chessbase applications. Probably Fritz Chess.

  • @ersmil4241
    @ersmil4241 4 роки тому

    At 4:47 why wouldn't black's dark squared bishop just capture the pawn? it would still put the king in check.

    • @kacx3121
      @kacx3121 3 роки тому

      Queen takes bishop?

  • @edbegley5858
    @edbegley5858 7 років тому

    mike's tha best

  • @GGSoft2009
    @GGSoft2009 6 років тому

    thanks

  • @DeanJarratt
    @DeanJarratt 5 років тому +1

    It sounds like Ben Finegold is heckling him.

  • @alexanderhoward122
    @alexanderhoward122 7 років тому

    I haven't seen this trick, but I believe it's easy. B3, he takes, then c3 or a3 and you have a passed pawn.

  • @logical1989
    @logical1989 9 років тому

    Around 12:55 he said you can take white-square bishop no matter what, but why couldn't white move the white-square bishop to D5, out of danger and putting pressure on the rook at A8?

    • @TrevorMiller247
      @TrevorMiller247 9 років тому +2

      Dave Gill
      Black would respond with ...c6 and the white bishop has no safe squares.

  • @tobiasengel8385
    @tobiasengel8385 4 роки тому

    Swear to God Mike Kummer is hilariously interesting to listen to. He's got this attitude, that says *smirk but you're cool with meh

  • @Xclann
    @Xclann 8 років тому

    At 5:44, instead of the pawn move, what about Knight takes E5? In this case, the white queen can defend G4.

    • @udbhavraghu7234
      @udbhavraghu7234 8 років тому +1

      +XClann, if Nxe5, either Qd4, or Qg5 wins for black

    • @Xclann
      @Xclann 8 років тому

      +Udbhav Raghu I see, thanks for the info!

  • @wkwkkw7830
    @wkwkkw7830 4 роки тому

    Apparently aman says that pawn b5 is the worst move one should make

  • @postnubilaphoebus96
    @postnubilaphoebus96 8 років тому +2

    h3 instead of castles in the exchange Ruy is so completely ridiculous I can't stop laughing

    • @postnubilaphoebus96
      @postnubilaphoebus96 8 років тому +2

      Not the move itself, to be precise, but how he advertises it.
      "If you all wanna play super-good..."
      Like him, yes. Lol.

    • @b00i00d
      @b00i00d 7 років тому

      My thoughts exactly!

  • @andychristoph9836
    @andychristoph9836 4 роки тому +1

    Where is this guy's accent from?!!!

  • @eightytwentyfang
    @eightytwentyfang 6 років тому +1

    This reminds me of Kevin Harts stand up making fun of his father going "ALRIT, ALRIT ALLLLLRIIIIITTTEEEE!"

  • @learnenglishwithhim1636
    @learnenglishwithhim1636 5 років тому

    e4, e5, Nf3, Nc6, Bb5, a6, Ba4, b5, Bb3, Na5, Bxf7+, Kxf7 That's the nightingale gambit against norwegian variation which is e4, e5, Nf3, Nc6, Bb5, a6, Ba4, b5, Bb3 Na5

    • @chessgm5822
      @chessgm5822 5 років тому

      norwegian variation? which we saw at 13:00

    • @learnenglishwithhim1636
      @learnenglishwithhim1636 5 років тому

      Indeed.

    • @chessgm5822
      @chessgm5822 5 років тому

      So with that we can take the pawn freely because after Kxf7 we can take the pawn on e5 and give black king a check.

    • @learnenglishwithhim1636
      @learnenglishwithhim1636 5 років тому

      That's right.

    • @chessboxing8530
      @chessboxing8530 5 років тому

      You're right That's why the chess.com engine not recommend the noewegian variation - e4/e5/Nf3/Nc6/Bb5/a6/Ba4/b5/Bb3/Na5. I see

  • @striker045
    @striker045 9 років тому +2

    voice reminds me of joe from family guy

  • @diegoonsoftware
    @diegoonsoftware 3 роки тому

    Feels like Stanley from The Office is teaching me chess

  • @HughMorristheJoker
    @HughMorristheJoker Рік тому

    I wanna play super good!!

  • @hsinghal1
    @hsinghal1 3 роки тому

    This lecture is a kind of mix. Good stratagies but failed to bring the key points ahead. However the presenter thoroughly enjoyed the chess.

  • @damiankowalski4731
    @damiankowalski4731 4 роки тому

    Very interesting for beginera which I'am.

  • @JishnuChatterjee
    @JishnuChatterjee 5 років тому

    An in-depth analysis of a Ruy Lopez (Berlin Defence) game between Strelka 5.5 and Komodo 12.3.
    www.chess.com/blog/jishnuplayschess/komodo-12-3-plays-the-ruy-lopez

  • @gus.stviaaa
    @gus.stviaaa 3 роки тому

    That's like the fishing pole trap

  • @samwilson859
    @samwilson859 3 роки тому

    Good teacher it’s like he just stepped out of 1983

  • @aameen951
    @aameen951 9 років тому

    what is the chess software being used

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld 8 років тому

      Ameen Sayegh Fritz or something, it's what they always use.

  • @samuelcarley7245
    @samuelcarley7245 2 роки тому

    3:40 "There's actually two moves... F4! Genius... they're both horible... "
    lol

  • @divyanshukunwar7849
    @divyanshukunwar7849 5 років тому

    I was watching this at 1.75× so I had no idea why people were saying he's drunk lol

  • @michaelgamba7674
    @michaelgamba7674 6 років тому

    awesome accent

  • @dassitdassall
    @dassitdassall 8 років тому +2

    13:10 Qg5

  • @udbhavraghu7234
    @udbhavraghu7234 8 років тому +2

    Bxc6 is definitely not superior to Ba4 on move 4 after a6, both are equally good. Mike thinks that the doubled pawn are bad, but the prove beneficial to black. Just because one variation gives "bad" doubled pawns, doesn't mean that it is superior to Ba4. Also, if Bxc6 was better than Ba4, then how come the top players in the world 99% of the time play Ba4? Not saying the exchange is bad for white, it's just not better than Ba4. Just saying.

    • @tomrose2086
      @tomrose2086 7 років тому +1

      Whether the doubled pawns turn out to be good or bad in the long run depends on the relative skills of the players.

    • @trevbarlow9719
      @trevbarlow9719 5 років тому

      Beginner here. The comments section for this video helped me quit the exchange.

  • @kingsultan287
    @kingsultan287 2 роки тому

    I didnt know Rick Grimes is a Chess Coach until i saw this video 🤣 thanks though!

  • @advancedwriter9419
    @advancedwriter9419 7 років тому

    Is this Mackey from Southpark in real life?

  • @peternolan777
    @peternolan777 6 років тому

    Mike Kummer is like the chess version of Harland Williams

  • @xdplaya87
    @xdplaya87 7 років тому

    7:05 pretend the kings can't move, man that would be nice

  • @jonnylinny5467
    @jonnylinny5467 3 роки тому

    He gave up. So that was a bummer

  • @khashayarnoubakht7101
    @khashayarnoubakht7101 6 років тому +3

    I think i went down in rating after watching this.. :D