Idk I like the 28mm f/2 ais.. you know the one that everyone hates/doesn't even know exists 😊 I love the busy background rendering, 3D pop and it's really really sharp in the center, at least the copy I have is. I love unique lenses.
One thing i found with the Ai-S 28 2.8 is its an amazing flower lens with the 0.2 mfd. With my D850 the contrast and color rendition are outstanding, with very low distortion as well
As autofocus came Nikon had no time to develop a new 28 lens and the 28 AIS focusing system was too stiff to be driven by AF, so they took the optically weaker economic 28mm Nikkor E to build the 28 AF The real sturdy gem is the 1.4 28 AFD I bought a 2.8 AF new but sold it a few months later, it was optically too weak I have also a 2.8 AIS but it has today an oily aperture problem as some other AIS have My rare 1.4 AFD is a gem I use it the most today
It always surprised me that a company that made such excellent manual focus lenses produced such lackluster autofocus lenses. The 55 micro af lens was perhaps the worst packaging ever. Sure it was sharp. Sure it focused to life size. But I hung on to my manual focus lens like it was gold! The first af 180 f/2.8 lens was also a packaging mistake. Luckily Nikon changed it to the metal body version quickly. If my eyesight wasn't going, I would still prefer to use manually focused lenses!
@@terrygoyan I was disappointed when the first Nikon AF lenses were introduced. The gradually improved and the Z mount lenses are some of the best AF lenses Nikon ever made. Thanks for watching.
Very good video again and an interesting comparison. I remenber I had just bought a new FA in 1987 after careful consideration, determined not to jump on the AF train. I have a 28mm f/3.5 Ai the 6 element lens which I like very much. I am tempted to believe that the fewer elements it takes to achieve a certain focal length, the smaller resulting tolerances can be achieved, at some extent.
I have the AF 28 2.8 with the narrow focus ring and always use it on my D600 when doing the built in Time Lapse as it does not work with non AF lenses even with non cpu information imputed although I can shoot video with any of my AI / AIS lens. My copy was £50.00 on ebay. The narrow focus ring is a advantage only when using AF on a DSLR when it is important to keep your fingers off the rotating focus ring.
I recently noticed that the AF-D Lenses that I have checked 20mm n 180mm both "have focus confirmation" on My Z6III !!!! This is very important as on the other (such as) the Ais I am never sure that it is in focus (and often it is not) :) :( :)
@@johnyoung1606 That’s because the AIS lenses don’t have a CPU. You can program the OK button to zoom in 100% to make focusing much easier or set up focus peaking.Thanks for watching.
@@julesvuottosphotofocus4696 I am surprised that You did not bring that up... Many people are trying these lenses out on their mirrorless (some know Many do not).... ThankYou for these videos they make Me think about My collection of lenses I started collecting in 1968 :) :) :)
Thé first 28mm AF version was very simplified vs the AIs. I suspect that as at that time the cameras used the internal body motor , they wanted to have very light and easy to rotate focus ring , so this is why the ring is no more smooth as on the ais and probably a lighter focus ring means less internal lenses.
@@philmtx3fr I have quite a set of D lenses 20, 24, 28, 35-70, 50, 85, 105, 180 They are are all acceptably sharp wide open, I have noticed the looseness of the focus ring.... I was thinking that a couple of them would move off of focus very easily!!!! Your theory seems quite valid!!!! ThankYou,, My Nikon Friend :) :) :)
Yes... Back in the days Nikon was so ashamed of plastic lenses (Series E), that they didn't even branded them as Nikkors and never sold them in Japan. And look where we are now...
Idk I like the 28mm f/2 ais.. you know the one that everyone hates/doesn't even know exists 😊 I love the busy background rendering, 3D pop and it's really really sharp in the center, at least the copy I have is. I love unique lenses.
@@bailey.nt86 I have heard good things about that lens. Thanks for watching.
I have never owned either of two lenses. Will have to keep an eye out for them in the used lens market. Thanks for the review.
@@leod1671 A few reviewers really praised the Ais so I think that has helped to keep the price high.
One thing i found with the Ai-S 28 2.8 is its an amazing flower lens with the 0.2 mfd.
With my D850 the contrast and color rendition are outstanding, with very low distortion as well
@@JPCl I agree that it’s very good for flowers and still showing a lot of background and with small apertures keep it in focus. Thanks for watching.
I find the 2.8 AI-S fantastic at short distances but a bit weaker at infinity
@@jean-claudemuller3199 There's a reason why I have both the f2 and 2.8 Nikkors.
But I find the 2.8 better at infinity when stopped down
I have the nikkor pre-ai 2,8cm Nipon Kogaku, amazin lens, great video 🇦🇷🤙👏👍
@@arielgajda3335 Thank you for watching and your comments.
As autofocus came Nikon had no time to develop a new 28 lens and the 28 AIS focusing system was too stiff to be driven by AF, so they took the optically weaker economic 28mm Nikkor E to build the 28 AF
The real sturdy gem is the 1.4 28 AFD
I bought a 2.8 AF new but sold it a few months later, it was optically too weak
I have also a 2.8 AIS but it has today an oily aperture problem as some other AIS have
My rare 1.4 AFD is a gem I use it the most today
@@jean-claudemuller3199 I never owned the 1.4, but many say it’s excellent. I know it sells for a high price used. Thanks for watching.
It always surprised me that a company that made such excellent manual focus lenses produced such lackluster autofocus lenses. The 55 micro af lens was perhaps the worst packaging ever. Sure it was sharp. Sure it focused to life size. But I hung on to my manual focus lens like it was gold!
The first af 180 f/2.8 lens was also a packaging mistake. Luckily Nikon changed it to the metal body version quickly.
If my eyesight wasn't going, I would still prefer to use manually focused lenses!
@@terrygoyan I was disappointed when the first Nikon AF lenses were introduced. The gradually improved and the Z mount lenses are some of the best AF lenses Nikon ever made. Thanks for watching.
Very good video again and an interesting comparison. I remenber I had just bought a new FA in 1987 after careful consideration, determined not to jump on the AF train.
I have a 28mm f/3.5 Ai the 6 element lens which I like very much. I am tempted to believe that the fewer elements it takes to achieve a certain focal length, the smaller resulting tolerances can be achieved, at some extent.
@@mikaelwerner1 Thank you.
I have the AF 28 2.8 with the narrow focus ring and always use it on my D600 when doing the built in Time Lapse as it does not work with non AF lenses even with non cpu information imputed although I can shoot video with any of my AI / AIS lens. My copy was £50.00 on ebay. The narrow focus ring is a advantage only when using AF on a DSLR when it is important to keep your fingers off the rotating focus ring.
@@johnarmstrong5727 very good point about the narrow ring. I never thought of that. Thanks for watching.
I recently noticed that the AF-D Lenses that I have checked 20mm n 180mm both "have focus confirmation" on My Z6III !!!! This is very important as on the other (such as) the Ais I am never sure that it is in focus (and often it is not) :) :( :)
@@johnyoung1606 That’s because the AIS lenses don’t have a CPU. You can program the OK button to zoom in 100% to make focusing much easier or set up focus peaking.Thanks for watching.
@@julesvuottosphotofocus4696 I am surprised that You did not bring that up... Many people are trying these lenses out on their mirrorless (some know Many do not).... ThankYou for these videos they make Me think about My collection of lenses I started collecting in 1968 :) :) :)
Thé first 28mm AF version was very simplified vs the AIs. I suspect that as at that time the cameras used the internal body motor , they wanted to have very light and easy to rotate focus ring , so this is why the ring is no more smooth as on the ais and probably a lighter focus ring means less internal lenses.
@@philmtx3fr I have quite a set of D lenses 20, 24, 28, 35-70, 50, 85, 105, 180 They are are all acceptably sharp wide open, I have noticed the looseness of the focus ring.... I was thinking that a couple of them would move off of focus very easily!!!! Your theory seems quite valid!!!! ThankYou,, My Nikon Friend :) :) :)
@@philmtx3fr I think you may be right, since Nikon was new to autofocus at the time this lens was introduced.
Yes... Back in the days Nikon was so ashamed of plastic lenses (Series E), that they didn't even branded them as Nikkors and never sold them in Japan. And look where we are now...
@@antonvoloshin9833 Yes, but many were very good optically. Thanks for watching.
1st, i have both Lenses
2nd, I have neither lens....
@@Stop-All-War which do you prefer?
Thanks for watching.
@@charlesrwilliams Can’t wait to see the 3rd response. Thanks for watching.
5th! I have the Af-Version without the rubber ring 😊
@julesvuottosphotofocus4696 I'd need to test AI nikon f2.8 manual more throughly but I do like it's contrast & dark shadows
The 1983 Autofocus Nikkors seem better made than the later ones ... 🦘