How To Overseed An Existing Lawn - Fall Lawn Renovation and Overseeding Step 4
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- In Step 4 of my fall lawn renovation and overseeding process I completed the overseeding of the existing lawn using a perennial ryegrass. I also seeded some of the bare spots in the lawn and explain that process as well.
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I mix the peat moss with top soil and then dress the bare spots after seeding
I agree with everything you did in this series.. however i like to top dress with compost instead of peatmoss. It holds the moisture better and provides added nutrients to the soil... and its cheap
I was excited about my project bc the weather was perfect around 70 degrees here in northern Ohio when I started. The frustrating part it we are expecting record highs here the next week with temps in the 90s and no rain. I'm not looking forward to seeing the water bill but I'm keeping the ground as moist as possible. I really could use a few days of rain.
Seed does best in September in Ohio. Cool weather with morning dew. Ground is always moist.
Great video, that's what my lawn looks like. The peat moss sounds like a great idea, I usually end up feeding the birds.
Added this info to my overseeding regime for my backyard. I have a slope out there and I topped the seeding with straw to keep the seed in place. Worked good, yet I have spots that didn't do as well. I'll use your procedures here to right the ship. I have Bermuda grass in No. Texas so i have to get this done before the grass hibernate. Tks.
I actually see your point here about KBG and how slow it grows :( I'm in the pacific northwest and I think PRG and a KBG mix for my overseeding this weekend would thrive well. I also like your idea on using Milorganite down with your seeds to prevent current grass from overgrowing or throwing the starter fert a little later. Keep them videos coming my friend!
Sounds like a good plan. Good luck!
Keen to see the results! Love doing lawn renovations.
I both love them and hate them. I love the results but I always get super nervous while it's happening thinking I messed something up!
Here the fine fescues, creeping red, strong creeping red and chewings are mixed with PR. to match the look in lower light conditions but they look very good in sun too!
This is pacific cool maritime climate, eight months of rain and four months of drought....
I am always fascinated by different climates. I've only lived in the midwest so I'm pretty used to it although I can't say I'm a huge fan of it either....haha
Your most informative video yet. You've got me sold on the Perennial Rye seed 👍.
I appreciate that. Wish I got a commission then! :)
Very nice presentation and thanks for sharing.
I will try using a thin layer of Peat Moss when over seeding with Rye over my Bermuda this fall. I prefer the hand Whizz over that the Turf Builder Edge Guard Mini, much better control. Also I prefer to use a lot more seed than recommended, at least 25lbs per 1000sf. It comes in a lot thinker that way. I also do love the Rye grass. In many way I prefer it over the Bermuda and it is a lot easier to grow.
25lb per 1000 LMAO!
I had that spreader and then I bought a earthway with pneumatic tires. It makes it so easy just a thought.
I over seeded my yard last year and like yours spring brought a green lush lawn. Neighbors were very envious But come July we had a very dry summer and my yard went to crap. Weeds, nuts edge, and brown spots beyond anything I ever seen. Only now in Sept after putting down 30lbs of Pennington and just last night another 15lbs of Scotts are the bare spots starting to fill in. The weeds are still abundant. My theory is the grass was so lush when i cut it (i triple cut to cut up the grass clippings), it created to much thatch and in July I paid the price for having too lush a yard.
It likely didn't build thatch that quickly but it's certainly possible for newer grass to be attacked by heat stress, fungus, insects etc so those things are definitely possible too. It's always a battle to get a new lawn going and keep it going through the first summer.
What is your mowing height? You should be at 4” imo for healthy growth esp during the hot summer. With humidity we seen a lot of weeds and fungus - post emergence is tough. Seed it good - go over it with the aerator a few times. Next year if you don’t have a post emergence like dimension you can use in your area, hire a company to give you the 1-2 pre emergent applications. I’ve had good results with granular weed and feeds, crab preventers, but ultimately best results are with something like that. Good luck !
I always mow at the highest setting
I am seeing the grass start to come back now that overnight moisture is fueling all the seeding i have put down. Still some bare spots to fill in and weeds to choke out.
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For me it is easier to have True Green do it all. By the time I go and buy all of the nutrients and tools to do the work, it is easier for a company that does this day in and day out to do it for me. When I was younger I did all of the things that Ryan Knorr did. Now I pay someone to do it.It all works out in for me in the end. Thanks Ryan, you bought back a lot of memories.
Hi Ryan, we just moved into a new house and the tall fescue has been overwhelming with crab grass. Overseed as is or do I need to kill crabgrass first, or something else? Thank you!!!! RC
Rye grass is actually grown in northern MN along with Kentucky bluegrass including baron variety blue grass
The cooler summer would be perfect
Great video, talk about the tenacity application time and ahead or behind reseed
Exactly what I was looking for 😍
You've kill the tall fescue you overseed in your lawn last year. I've kill the ryegrass I overseed last year in my lawn for a 100% KBG lawn. Did'nt like the look of the ryegrass in my KBG. Kind of the same problem we had ! Good job Ryan, now WATER - WATER - WATER -WATER !!
Watering video will be out next!
Very informative thank you
I completed the steps, it’s been 2 weeks and grass is coming up. yay! But I see some bare spots. Should throw a little seed in the bare spots at this stage???
Ryan I love your videos. So far I have bought a toro timemaster and last week I got the green blower from your link on Amazon. I am mowing my turf type fall fescue at 4 inches now and using milorginite fert and man my yard is looking so good :) I'm going to overseed this fall. Thanks for the tips
Great! Glad to hear it's going well.
Ryan Knorr Lawn Care , hey Ryan I got a similar problem as the video here. But I fertilizer burnt some spots in my lawn. My question is should I dig about 1 inch and get rid of the burn marks completely than lay all the products you shown or just thatch rake it then lay the products you shown. Please help brother.
Love watching his vids
Love the videos, Im doing some work on my grass too. Thanks for the tips
No problem. Thanks for watching!
you should message me so you can do my grandpa's lawn, I used to do it for him but got too busy with work myself, I watched your videos so I could get the process down because my grandpas pretty particular about his yard...
Really enjoying the series!
Does that cricket in the background annoy anyone else? lol Wish I saw these videos before covid, I would have had an awesome lawn ready for fall
I live in cedar rapids! Iowa represent! lol beautiful lawn and camera work.
Thanks!
For years now the neighbors do aeration and overseeding in the fall and I don't. And yes their lawn looks great in the fall and early winter here in Charlotte NC looking thick and green. But by mid-summer mine looks far better year after year. Everyone completely relys on lawn care companies to do all the lawn care feeding and trimming in the neighborhood. All fescue lawns with auto sprinkler systems. The only difference may be is that I have brown patch applications in summer.
I’m in Charlotte n.c. Too. I did have tru green come and arerate and over seed. They did ok. Summer I’ll just do bare spots
Its gonna look amazing
Let's hope so!
Great video I learned a lot about re seeding
Hell ya man this video got me feeling good. Hell ya!!!!
Thank you for sharing.
- Haha... those patches look exactly like the damage you'd see from grubs...
GREAT DETAILED VIDEO!!! HOWEVER, WHY DIDN'T YOU SCRAYCH THE SOIL TO GET THE SEEDS A LITTLE ASSISTANCE?
I know you've had some videos on your sprinkler set up but I'd love to see a step by step video of how you water this new seed , my biggest challenge is watering my 6000 sq yard with very weak water flow/pressure.
I have a few videos on my sprinkler setup but essentially you just have to map out your yard and build enough them to keep them in place and run it in zones just like if they were underground.
@@ryanknorrlawncare thats where im at. I'll probably need to run 16 and 8 2 head zones, I've gotta figure out a way how to keep the hose off the grass as ill have sprinklers all through the middle too, possibly zip tie it to a lawn stake
After years of seeding perennial ryegrass I agree it's easy to germinate but it sucks in heat and dies too easily. Never again going warm season/ KBG heat tolerant.
Very informative, great video
Hi Ryan! Thank you so much for your great videos! I live in the southwest part of Kansas City so my weather conditions are very similar to yours. I gave up trying to grow a bluegrass lawn early last year. Unless I wanted a $500 a month water bill bluegrass just doesn't survive in the full-sun parts of my yard. So last August I power raked and then hand raked my yard. I cut my yard very short and then over seeded my yard using Scott's "turf type tall fescue". Light watering twice a day for several weeks began then followed by a second over seeding. I used Scott's winterizer fertilizer on it in early December.
This spring I applied Scott's "triple-action" lawn fertilizer then followed 60-days later with Scott's fertilizer with pre-emergence. My lawn this extremely hot/dry summer has been just OK. Is it just too early to expect tall fescue to be thick and well established? Even in the spring time when everything was growing and thickening so well it just isn't what I was hoping for. Not at all that "carpet" look of a healthy blue grass lawn.
How’s your lawn now a year later?
great videos for the lawn gurus like yourself,,,,i am learning from my mistakes unfortunately,,,,,when are the best times to water your lawn,,,,early morning or late evening???
Early morning is best. Evening tends to get us into problems when the weather gets warmer and humid because the grass stays wet all night and that leads to disease problems.
Ryan, Great Videos and Tips!! Inspired from your videos I decided do overseeding on our newly bought house. I live in Lexington, KY area and did overseeding my lawn a week back with mix of Scott’s tall fescue + Sta Green tall fescue along with sta green starter fertilizer (18-24-6). I see the seed germination is good so far.
Question: when should I put another round of fertilizer and what fertilizer I need to use. Taking consideration of Lexington, KY area weather.
What other things should be done before winter.
I really appreciate your videos and effort!!
I live south of Omaha and I overseeded two years ago with little results. I’d like to go with tall fescue. Any advice . Thanks
Hey, Rayan Great Videos!! Been watching for a while. Quick question, I am in the middle of a lawn Reno. The existing lawn is full of crabgrass. I killed most of the crabgrass with Tenacity and followed your instruction in videos 1,2 and 3 (cut super low, detached) and will aerate the lawn next. My only question is the crabgrass or what's left of it takes up a lot of the lawn. Looking back I should have killed the whole lawn and started over. I was thinking of rototilling the areas where the crabgrass is prominent. I am afraid the new seed won't be able to germinate with the crabgrass root system. What are your thoughts? Do you think with a good aerating of the lawn I will be ok to overseed? or should I clean out the root system of the dead and dying crabgrass? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
So I need to topdress after overseeding
Thought you were going with fescue. I over-seeded this week too, was hoping for more rain. (15 minutes East of you)
Nope on the fescue. I've been trying to get rid of it as much as possible! :)
Was the stuff you wanted to get rid of Tall Fescue or all fescue?
I reseeded with the "shady mix" so fine fescues: creeping red, radar, chewings, and a few others in the bag. I also added a bit of Midnight KBG. I wish I could go all KBG but I would like to get away from a big watering requirement and I have a lot of shade now.
If the neighborhood would not have a fit I would go all clover or Dichondra. I already have micro-clover.
Sounds like a sordid mess now that it has been written down. We'll see what thrives next year and go with that.
Mainly just trying to get rid of the wide bladed fescue.
Thanks for the awesome video! This may have been asked already, but how long do you wait to mow after you’ve overseeded? Also, is it best to do this in the fall before temps drop?
Hi, just double core aerated, I’m in the New York area and going to over-seed with Jonathan green black beauty ultra and sun and shade mixes (has 9%fine fescue). Debating whether to skip tenacity, thoughts? Have quite a few weeds, though assuming they will die in the next few months as the winter comes. Thanks for the video
I bought Jonathan green black beauty. The rye grass is hauling ass.. the fescue should start up here pretty quick. The peat moss has helped a bunch as well!
Yes ryegrass is just incredibly fast and peat moss has been a major part of my success in thin areas. Good luck with your project!
Hi Ryan! Big fan of your channel! I live in a Chicago so similar temps as you in Iowa. Was just wondering should I put down fall fertilizer before over seeding or after? How long should I wait in between putting down fall fertilizer and seeding? Thank you!
Ryan, how do you feel about the power overseeders that can be rented from big box stores? Do they work better than broadcast spreaders?
4:38. Succeed....sucseeeeed. I see what you did there.
thank you sir, one question. How do you ensure you don't get fertilizer burns? i use scots spreader just like you have and I always make a boo boo and end up with dead yellow spots. it bothers me so much
Thanks.
I’ve got a lot of creeping Charlie/wild violets and fescue. One more day and it will be a week since I blanket sprayed my yard with crossbow, now when and “if “ they die, what’s my next step?
First time over seeding, would or can you overseed your exisiting new lawn about 2 months old maybe 3 and overseed then mow and use lawn clippings to cover the seed?
Recommendations for a New Jersey lawn plan ? What should I put down on the yard now(august) and fall, winter, spring summer time frame?
Hi Ryan, if you wait a few days before putting down starter fertilizer, do you at least put fertilizer down on the previously bare spots immediately after seeding, since there isn't really previous grass to crowd out the seed? So I'm thinking you put starter down on the bare spots on day 1, then on day 3 spread starter over the whole lawn, something like that.
Nice vlog thanks for your input
Great Videos Ryan. Also please could you mention the NPK ratios in your pressed fertilisers or any other fertiliser thar you use. Thanks. Stay safe.
Could I use peet moss only or do I have to use Topsoil as well?
also is it wise to mow the lawn extremely short before I start this process? And how many days after this process should I start to put down fertilizer.
Silly question but when overseeding. Do you still mow over that area, or let everything grow out till you start seeing new sprouts?
If I over seed now with perennial rye now will be go dormant in the winter or will it stay green all winter and go dormant in the summer ? Thanks
I am in central Iowa as well. Looking at seeding a few bare spots with Earl May's Mayfine grass seed. I know I'm a bit late in the year for it, but have you looked at this mixture? It's 70/30 KBG/Perennial Rye with Brooklawn, Appalachian, Washington II, Right, Action II/Manhattan 5, and Gray Fox.
Hello neighbor! I don't have any experience with that one specifically. Those names aren't some of the "elite" varieties but that doesn't mean anything is necessarily bad about it. You may have trouble getting the bluegrass going before frost but if you're ok with giving it a shot, it's still looking pretty warm for the next couple weeks. Good luck!
Nice, keep it going bro. Love seeing these vids.
Thanks!
Ryan, I have 95% bluegrass in my backyard (I over seeded this past fall), but still have some bare spots. Would you recommend overseeing with a tall fescue this spring since they germinate quickly? Thanks for your help.
I personally don't like the mix of fescue and bluegrass together just because they look different in terms of blade width. I'd go with ryegrass if you were looking for something quick. Also bluegrass will fill in pretty nicely if it gets some good fertilizer so keep that in mind as well.
I have lots of clover in my lawn, shall I get rid of them before overseeing?
This is quite useful. How much do you water after this process?
Can you overseed kbg??? People say its nearly impossible, and i start to belive it since I've spend thousands of dollars in las couple years trying to fill in my lawn... and during spring my established lawn grows way to long before i can even mow an overseeded lawn
Exactly what I needed know.
Thank you from NY
Ryan thanks for all the info. I live in NC and I have a weed problem that I was going to be attacking. My question is, if I just killed off a lot of weeds and have some tall fescue, would I spread the seed as if I was seeding a new lawn or over seeding? After all the weeds are gone I don’t think I’ll have much grass, that’s where my thoughts are.
great lawn. So is the take away get per rye and then sprinkle it amonst the already growing grass? will it find itself into dirt pockets to grow?
What’s a decent top soil to use?
Black dirt or if you were just topdressing so your baby or newly seeded grass Piet moss. It helps hold seed down until it locks down
Haaken Lein I’ve noticed they have an enriched lawn soil in hardware stores. But they’re 2-3 time’s more expensive than regular topsoil.
Now that your lawn is the envy of your neighborhood, do you ever feel like overseeding your thick lawn with a spreader isn't doing anything? I always notice growth in my patchwork but in thick areas I can't say I notice the seed doing any good.
I can notice new growth and shoots throughout. If you really tear into it with dethatching and an aerator then it's opened up pretty good for new seed to fill in.
ryanknorr thanks for the tip!
Absolutely stellar info. Step 3 shows over seeding after aeration and step 4 shows over seeding as well. Are you over seeding multiple times in the fall?
great video, I've been considering adding a thin layer of compost to my lawn before I overseed this fall. Have you ever added compost to your lawn, and do you think its even necessary? just got my soil savvy results and working on fixing a few deficiencies.Thanks again for the great content. love the drone footage
Definitely shouldn't hurt anything. Just make sure you don't smother the lawn that's there or it can kill it.
can I oveerseed Kentucky blue in Northern IL around end of May?
What are the best times of the year to over-seed and how many times a year should it be done? I live in Oregon. Thanks.
Can I aerate and overseed without using top soil?
I pulled out some weeds from my yard and put in some grass seeds in that area. I have been watering it since, but don't see any progress. Was this the right way to do it? If not, how could I have done it better?
Are you IN Minnesota or are you just an awesome Vikings fan?
I grew up in MN and live in Central Iowa now. Skol!
Hello Ryan. Love your stuff. You explain very clearly what to do. Sadly in Portugal, there's not many lawn tools or seeds to make a lawn like yours but I'm trying.
I have one doubt regarding the overseeding process. I've seen you cover the big gaps with some sand. Regarding the rest of the lawn.. you just overseed? You don't cover the seed with other material? Cheers
Can I do this in the month of July because I have a few fertilizer burn spots on my lawn or do I need to wait for fall to get the best results ?
Ryan, thanks for these videos and your new stuff. I'm in Dubuque, IA. What would you recommend for overseeding where some parts are shady and others full sun? Do I need to get two types of seed or is there a blend that could cover both areas? Thanks!
Many of the newer turf type tall fescues will do decent in shade but if it's dense shade I would try to open that up as much as possible for filtered light and also consider fine fescues in those areas.
Hi Ryan, want to start the fall lean care process, but difficult to understand the step and time between each. I want to do aeration, power rake and overseeding and putting down some fertilizer . Can you please help?
Superb video! But I am a bit confused on the part of overseeding, because seeds needs contact with soil, so in your case they didn't sit on the grass?
I had turf laid a year ago by the developer. I moved 3 months ago to the house and I have so much dead grass, I raked it but I need to rake it more. I dont have money for powered scarifier. I am wondering if I will rake and put grass seeds if they will grow.
The grass needs to be thin enough to see down to the soil so the seed can get there when it gets watered and also since I core aerated there's some plugs of soil on the grass for the seed to grab on to as they break down.
I have a fungus and treated it so now can I still overseed?
Hi Ryan,
My last fertilization (every two weeks recommended by you) with Milorganite will be in mid October. When I should start overseeding process?
Thank u. Im in the northeast region in clifton nj. Do u think this is the best time to seed some of the bare spots I have on my lawn. I dont expect it to grow until next year.
How do you keep the soil moist all day long if you are not at home? I find that the areas I am trying to repair dry out quickly with the sun and wind.
Usually setting up a timer will be your best option
i live in boston and i purchase a home and want to have a nice lawn should i kill off everything and start fresh
Hey Ryan quick question where do you order your Kentucky Blue Grass from? I don't like Scott or Pennington that much Thank You Jon.. Also is 10,10,10 Fertilizer okay to start fertilizer or lesco 24,0,8?
Good stuff Ryan.
Thanks!
I live in Iowa as well. Just wondering how late would be acceptable to plant grass seed. I just sprayed for creeping charlie and wild violet. Afraid I might have missed the boat for overseeding.
I am using Bermuda Seed. It is pretty small. I am concerned about getting even coverage. Can i add soil to my Scott’s spread and mix it with the seed to help with even distribution?
Omg I want to do that my backyard is horrible I have a small yard and the fact that I live in high desert area doesn’t help 😂😂😂 but still I want my grass !!!! Even if is a small yard .what kind of seed can I use ? Thank u for making this videos !
Seed type will depend on your specific location
I am in zone 5 in Canada and it is near impossible to grow Kentucky Bluegrass in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.
I'm in Zone 5b
Thanks Ryan. I destroyed my lawn after doing a complete renovation in the spring by dethatching it at the wrong time. So, I am going to redo it all again this Fall. What is the best time and temperature to reseed the lawn? Thanks.
now .water twice a day
@@daviddave8266 thanks I did it 2 weeks ago and is looking amazing.
How low should one mow before overseeding an existing lawn? Or just cut to normal height?
You can go lower. It will shock it but that is fine because it set its back a little to let the new seed come in
Can I overseed over existing lawn/grass?
Should I plan to cut to the lowermost setting and then overseed? I am seeing a rough patch of around 100-150 sq feet in 3 diff places. The rest of the lawn looks good. I was suggested slit seeding but it’s way too expensive. I plan to just over seed all together over my existing lawn with PRG. What setting should it be please on my mini Scott’s spreader and what brand of seeds do you recommend? I live in Minnesota.