Zemo Is GOATED | Captain America: Civil War Reaction (first time watching)
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59:59 -post/end credit scenes
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Welcome back everyone! Today it's Captain America: Civil War "reaction" time. This has been hands down BEST Marvel movie thus far. Seeing Steve, Tony, and Natasha made this feel more like an Avengers movie to be honest. The conflict beteen Steve and Tony was incredibly built throughout these movies so when it all comes to a head it feels so earn. In this "reaction" you can see how thrilled I was that movie was tackling the collateral damage that we constantly see when the Avengers are fighting bad guys. Everytime, I "react" I always have "commentary" where I'm wondering about the surrounding damages so seeing the consequences come to the surface felt super gratifying. The Bucky reveal was PAINNNFFFUUULLLL. I can fully understand and FEEL Bucky's guilt and at the same time I can see Tony's pain.....such great writing. "Reacting" to Steve, Tony and Bucky fighting was so hard, I didn't know what to do lmaoooo.
Anyways, I hope you all enjoy the "reaction" and the "commentary" at the end. Thank you all so much for the support, your patience and love. I love y'all so much. I'll see you for the next "reaction"!
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I found your laughter at the end somewhat disturbing. Don't get me wrong, I still think your a great reactor and I'm not going to stop watching your channel, but it was weird.
i have to give to zemo(hes one of steve rogers greatest rivals/allies and enemy) hes very similar in the relationship with amara the enchantress is to thor of asgard(they can thug it out with raw power and intelligence with no regard to anyones elses bs)
i love zemo stance with black panther and he was genuinely being nice to complete utter stranger(and in turn black panther felt all the raw rage and emotions turns zemo too) but as a ruler and king, black panther didnt want this scene to be a form of compelment of dispacement of what the damages zemo did to the group. even though he was bringing everything full circle within his notions was sadly misguided with his own loss of family. zemo was showing the human aspect within all of us(as the mother who lost her son during the fight with avenger's thugging it out during the slovia event) wanda is going through all her emotions as well its not her fault either(yes she caused many deaths. but its no excuse) you wondering where magneto is at during all this? hes off fighting with xavier and the xmen(while grabbing sources for his sovereign island called genoshia).. to be honest his hands are tied..
i understand tony's raw emotions as well(hes the most richest guy yet the dumbest illogical person ever!!) he wanted to centeralize "priotize world peace" he said this in the court hearings, against justin hammer/the senators/the military top ranking officers. he said this on national f king tv, he didnt care. he made a spectucle joke saying the ironman suit is high tech prostasis the arrogance of this man(i see why obadiah stein was on the fence saying "the company and board of stark industries has rights too..") but again, tony allow them to buy the rights. hook,line and sinker(i dont care he killed my mom, line was epic and raw at its core.. sadly loved that line easy 5/10 speech)
bucky i have the easiest time understand cause i can place him with vision before and after the mind stone bs..
he is literal prisoner of war(he gets a red tape of passes for 100 years and than on) same with cap. but back to bucky, imma give a few things with comparsion to vision: "he remembers all the missions and deaths.' only emotion he feels genuiniely is regret thats my personal assessment and we can debate it later(its no excuse however hear me out) in the world of human condition vs the creation of ai its no differences on matters of moral vs immoral "it just is.." ironman quoted it best "we create our own demons." bucky has his mind constantly without his express permission to "erased,scrambled,scattered to whatever the front or back end begins.' he is what he is,and from his core know this,but hes been trying to right wrongs for years(only captian and him knows this, and futhermore its not easy being like this when the whole world is against you)
i have more to comment on but ill leave it for the next upload.. :P
This is when Superhero movies are at their best. it is not just about the special effects and big budgets. It is about the people. The human element. Well done to the production team, writers and directors.
25:00 “staying together is more important than how we stay together.”
Natasha’s not concerned about appearances. She only wants whatever option will stop the team breaking apart.
She’s one of the characters I feel most for in this movie- she really tried so hard to mediate things and was acting from a purely emotional perspective.
yeah she finally had a family and was doing her best to stop it from falling apart
Whereas Steve doesn't care if he destroys the Avengers, if he kills Tony, if he kills Peter, as long as he keeps his Bucky-baby safe.
And nice to know that Captain "America" doesn't care about democracy. They took a vote and YOU LOST. (4-2, Wanda abstaining.) The whole point about democracy is that you abide by the results, you Ayn Rand-sucking selfish asshole.
Yes, it would suck if the Avengers needed to fill out five forms everytime they wanted to go to the bathroom. But Steve's "I do what I want when I want, and if you don't like it, I'll fight you, too" garbage is the *opposite* of fighting evil. Police forces are licensed; Steve just wants to be king. Nobody tells HIM what to do, nyah-nyah.
What is needed is to negotiate a better deal. (Rhodey saved President Ellis's life in IM3; he can at least get a hearing.) Probably the best answer is that the Avengers can be a rapid-response team, but they are subject to review after the fact, and individual nations can suspend individual Avengers, temporarily. If Wanda has to skip the next trip to Nigeria, the team will survive.
Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross has spent his career working to have superpowered people under his command. That was illustrated in The Incredible Hulk and in this film.
If Banner was in that meeting he would have certainly argued against working under Ross.
I watched John Hurt grow his career in the 80's and enjoy his performance as Ross. He brings the same intensity we saw with Jeff Bridges as Iron Monger.
@@terrylandess6072 William Hurt. :-)
While it's nowhere near on the same scale as the comic book Civil War event, this was still a fantastic adaptation. Team Cap all the way!!
It's Better Than the Comic
@@Bruce_Wayne2411 nah the comic book is way better but the film is great still 👌
I think the comic is better, but you comics fans can never ever say a movie is better than the comic version, can you? You're just incapable.@@dimitryanyanwu7681
Cap was just trying to keep people from killing Bucky. Bucky had to be stopped and quarantined. But not killed.
Something really cool about Agent 13's "plant yourself like a tree" speech, is actually a Steve Rogers speech from the comics!
imagine finding out that the man your father wouldnt shut up about, knew who killed your father and hid it from you
He didn't know it was Bucky
He knew it was an assassination arranged by Hydra, but not that it was Bucky.
@@KingRemoji He knew Bucky was the #1 Assassin they used, and the full details were probably in the files Natasha released. Certainly Zemo knew after reading those, why wouldn't Steve?
@@John_Harrison_He knew bro he admitted it😒😒by himself why would he lie on a very serious situation. And I'm not a Iron fanboy I love Thor but I'm just trying to tell the truth.
And I think you too will go mad you just keep saying he was brainwashed but still in real life you won't hesitate to kill him back. And it's fact a human brain and emotions fact no matter how much you keep saying the difference but in the end you will be like tony.and u can't change it.
Just remember what you said if this ever happens to you. And you will see your words proven wrong.
I am just telling the human emotions fact.
@@John_Harrison_ ok but that doesn't change the fact that Tony feel very sad not because of Bucky but because of Steve who didn't tell him the truth.
I know Bucky underwent harsh situation I know it was painful
But a Child whose parents where kill by someone who he doesn't know well and his close friend who knew but didn't tell him would make anyone rage. It was Tony's first time knowing who kill his parents seeing how Howard got punch and his mom neck was crush brutally anyone would make a child rage.
But after Steve wrote a letter to tony he realise and maybe he leave bucky but wasn't able to forgive.
I just don't like people saying tony was wrong ok he was wrong but it was first time seeing his parents got murder otherwise he use to believe that it was a car accident. So don't blame Tony for trying to kill bucky. He was just angry but at the end it was a good ending just that all if you still don't like my opinion it's ok. I can't do anything in that.
But if you like it a little bit reply me back. By keeping yourself in Tony's place not to fight Bucky but to feel his parents pain If you love them.
"The Winter Soldier jacked my shit" 🤣🤣💀💀 Good god how I laughed at that.
Honestly, I want it on a tshirt lol
Team Cap here. This movie had me so conflicted that I had to read the comics to get some clarification.
This is probably my favourite MCU movie. The casualties and property damage from previous movies is finally addressed, the villain has some actual motivation besides just wanting to take over the world, and everyone gets their moment to shine, even the new characters. I also love the way they tie-in Tony's history to Bucky, which if I'm not mistaken, was only a thing in the movies, not the comics.
Zemo is easily in my top 3 MCU villains.
steves my favourite character so i was always going to be a little biased. but the line " what if they send us somewhere we dont wanna go, What if there's somewhere we NEED to go and they dont let us" the conflict between steve and tonys is done so well with their various dialogues throughout. Zemo is the best example of a villian, " i knew i couldnt beat them, stronger men than me have tried but if i could get them to kill each other.. tookk me 2 days to find their bodies and the avengers.... they went home". marvel really needs to hire a director to helm a few key movie roles to fully start the next saga.
"Everyone is wrong" is such a mom cop-out 😂
sometimes its true tho
@@flygonkerel781 To be fair, she's not wrong. As she concluded, most times everyone has a valid point IF you can see things from their perspective (no matter how wild). People are hardly bugging out for absolutely no reason.
I REMEMBER THE VOTING ON TWITTER it was a real war lol
The light that Peter has at the end is a nod to the one he has on his belt buckle, which looks something like this. It was in the comics but I remember it being used more in the 90's animated show.
Spider-Man in the comics has to hold back, so he pulls his punches and stuff as to not cause irreparable damage to people. He once actually punched a villain's jaw off.
I agree with your take on a multi-country oversight committee controlling when or if the Avengers can be deployed. We've already seen how bad that decision making can be - in the first "Avengers" movie, the World Security Council ordered the deployment of a nuclear missile on the island of Manhattan. If it wasn't for Iron Man guiding the missile through the portal, millions would have died and the New York area would have been radioactive for many years afterward. Those that didn't die in the immediate area would have probably wish they had. And that's not even talking about the property damage from the explosion. And on the other side of things, that committee would be a bureaucracy. Those take time to make decisions. When the Avengers are needed, it is usually a situation that can't wait for a bureaucracy to make up its mind to act.
So funny asking how Stark made Peter a suit so fast !!! This is Tony Stark he could make a small nuke out of a trash can lid, paperclip and microwave oven given enough time.
56:44 Black Panther to Zemo: "Get my dad's name out your damn mouth!"
Your commentary is reminding me why the Captain America films (the second two at least) are my favorites. I'm a political junkie, a world war 2 nerd, and a comic reader, so the story lines are perfect for me.
Civil War is in my top 3 favorite Marvel films because it finally addresses the real world issues that would occur in a world with superheros. Bucky's backstory is heartbreaking, and Zemo is the perfect villain. I agree with you, that the movie is one of the best I've ever seen.
Those of us who read the comic books in the 1970's *DON"T* trust General "Thunderbolt" Ross. That man is power hungry, and he was after the Hulk. He also HATED that his daughter was in love with Bruce Banner. Suuure, the UN will have oversight over the Avengers due to the Sokovia Accords, but guess where Ross will be? He'll be the one managing the Avengers. Tony was emotionally compromised throughout the ENTIRE movie. First, Pepper, then being confronted by Charlie Spencer's mother, and finally finding out the truth behind his mother's death. Tony's on a redemption arc and he's just not stable. Steve's not emotionally compromised because he knows Bucky's not at fault and he knows that Bucky needs help. Zemo wrecked everything. You will see him again. Great reactions. I loved how you were thinking all the way through this movie, putting the clues together.
Wanda is my favorite... i dont think she is to blame for ultron... when she messed with tonys his head he saw his deepest fears.. she did not plant the fears he already had them
Ok it's true she didn't tell Tony to make Ultron so what about Hulk that she control knowingly that cause a big destruction in city now don't say it was Tony's fault that will be a dumb statement. You can't neglect this even she's your favourite even Tony is my fav. But in civil war he was wrong for sokovia Accords
Lagos is actually pronounced Lay-gus. That's my home 😊
i think this is arguably the best phase 3 movie
Michelle, watching you react to this movie was so much fun! 😁🍿
9:14 Hahaha. I know girl , I know. There's nothing like seeing Captain Rogers Kicking People into Oblivion 😂
"What a delicious conundrum." Lol
This movie truly is one of the best of its kind- you understand every single position of each character, no matter how right or wrong they are.
As for Vision, he's a Synthezoid, part robot, part human, part Norse magic, part AI, and part Mind Stone (the Infinity Stone on his head). Kinda wondering how you didn't talk about the building romance between him and Wanda, they are one of the most romantic MCU couples
It's really not that funny. Vision is falling in love, because he is evolving. That's why he became distracted and shot War Machine out of the air.
Such a fantastic film! Yes, terrific action, but what gives this movie the heart is that we have already spent 12 films prior to this getting to know them and care about them.
Everybody has a valid point. Steve, Tony, Zemo, T'Challa, and Bucky. This is such good writing.
Also, the Rhodey/Sam/Vision incident, that is unfortunate, it's called friendly fire. I feel bad for Rhodey though.
Just replace The Avengers with real world tech companies like Tesla, Google, Microsoft, etc. and you have what would happen if the UN (mostly run by the G7) decided where superheroes could operate. Think Huawei & 5G, think Tik Tok in the US, and think SpaceX/StarLink in Ukraine.
These movies are more realistic than most people realise.
Tony being the only adult about being a superhero...
Captain America just wanted to keep his "Manifest Destiny" Ideals of waging war wherever he sees fit ..
16:45 That’s the same guy who wanted to hunt down Bruce Banner and weaponize him.
Tony never provides any money to anybody. Tony only provides money to employees with the Avengers or not. Did not his friends either like Rhode . The Avengers all his colleagues Tony only provide resources to them. Tony houses them at The Avengers complex he upgrade their tech improvised transportation on and off missions. Tony never gave any of the Avengers a dime he doesn't provide cash for clean up at any of the Avengers battles. The organization that actually cleans up the battles and that only means the actual technology or foreign debris possibly from space. It's damage control which is a joint organization between Stark industries and the government. Yes he gave the MIT graduates money for their research but that's only to further his own legacy for the next Tony Stark which he will get credit for whatever they invent. I know what he said to Aunt May about Peter winning the Stark internship that is just an excuse so Peter can do missions for him but he won't pay him a dime. Tony just provided the upgraded Spider-Man suit.
He paid money to buy the building under construction that he destroys with Hulk. He donated a large collection of art to the Boy Scouts. And whether he's doing it for his own legacy or not, he's still providing money to those students for their projects.
True
"This is *not* the time for your catchphrase!!!" "Bust your little thug life homies out!!!" LMAO!!!! THANKS for this!!! Yes, I'm assuming the rents in Metropolis are low because the rental and car insurance levels are so high!!! :)
Tony is a Royal fck up throughout many of these movies ngl, the avengers all have a lotta blood on their hands but Tony’s waist deep wading through a pool of blood. No future spoilers for her
Not trying to sound cool or tough but if I’m a superhero & the gov hits me w the sokovia accords? I’m gonna tell them to get lost lmao, I’m a super hero cmon
Few have sold as hard as iron man (at least at this point in the timeline)
Tony (and Rhodey) also saved the US President and crushed a major terrorist organization.
That carries a lot of weight.
@@scotthill1600 I wish Tony didn't went into space taking the nuke it will have been better that Loki conquered earth it will have been better if there were no Avengers movies.
It's ok you say whatever you want but Tony has large fanbase no matter what you say.
It's just a movie so stop hating and respect their acting skills.
You can't even act like that😒
@@Golden_spatula34 not hating whatsoever, he’s a character in a film series, I love Tony stark & iron man, just bc I love him doesn’t mean I’m not gonna call him out when he fcks up. My family & friends love me but would still call me out if I was Fcking up.
you think I don’t know stark has a fan base? Isn’t he like the most popular avenger / mcu character?? Pretty sure. “Stop hating & respect their acting skills” Lmaooo your a fool, im talking ab the character not the actor, no shit I can’t act, tf? Did I say I’m a better actor than RDJ? I need some of what your smoking or maybe not judging by your comment
“You can’t even act like that😒” 🤓🤓🤓
This was Tom Hollands debut as Spider-Man
Insurance rates. Lollol
I am so happy your channel popped up on my feed today. It was a great reaction and commentary. I've watched these movies repeatedly and always enjoy others experiencing them on a 1st viewing. Your voice is right in the zone where I can follow your speech juusst enough without putting the CC words up. That in itself is a rare pleasure for an old man who hears everyone like they are Charlie Browns teacher speaking.
(Team Cap)
Here are some basic MCU power scaling. First thing to know the interview differ from the comic books some characters are weaker some characters are stronger. For example the comic book Captain America maximum strength with around 4 tons. In Captain America first avenger his strength level was around 6 tons and and with every appearance he gets stronger and the reason that is so different from the comic book is he has a bigger weakness in the MCU. If Captain America does not constantly work out he will lose his super strength which means he gets stronger every time they show him because he constantly needs to work out. So by the time of the civil war movie Steve strength level is around 12 tons. Spider-Man is 10 times stronger than Captain America. Peter also has durable skin equal to Kevlar enhanced healing factor that can heal near fatal wounds within a day. A spider sense that warns him of eminent danger an increase speed which combined give him the ability to dodge a machine gun bullet from point-blank range. Bucky strength is around 4 tons not including his middle arm which strength output seems to be around 18 tons. With bucky super soldier serum if he doesn't work out he won't lose his super strength. The heart shape Herb T'Chala was given that is similar to the super soldier serum but he doesn't lose if he doesn't work out and in fact he gets stronger over time. Ant-Man strength is proportional to his side.
On a political level, I’m Team Steve.
On a personal level, fuck Steve, Sam and Natasha for keeping the truth from Tony for almost two years (I’m guessing from the end of Winter Soldier when Natasha’s hands Cap the file on Bucky which I’m assuming includes some ppl that Hydra had him assasinate).
I would love to see a version where Steve trusts Tony and tells him the truth right away after the events of Winter Soldier (preferably with Pepper and Rhody in attendance to be emotional support and voices of reason) in an effort to get Tony to help get the Hydra brainwashing out of his head and redirect his anger rightfully towards Hydra (as there’s lots of Hydra people left after their fall). That’d be a cool concept since until this movie, the smartest people Cap knows that have a chance to help Bucky is Bruce (who’s gone) and Tony.
I'm with your decision 👍👍👍
42:16 They were flirting and almost went on a date in Winter Soldier. Also in the comics she's his main love interest and not Peggy.
I imagine they found a way to get Wanda asylum in the US, considering Sokovia is more or less a crater now. But that could be revoked if the government starts to see her as a liability.
The Avengers didn’t launch a nuclear missile at Manhattan. If anything, the governments should report to the Avengers. Not the other way around.
I feel you, it’s hard seeing Chadwick Boseman. Great reaction!
Will you finish uploading Succession reactions or not anymore?😊 haven’t seen them in a minute
1:16:30 'Things that are funny at 3am'... 😏
michelle, i didn't see the Twilight movies, but i remember them asking are you team jacob or team edward, i still don't know what team i am on for that
I've watched many of your mcu reactions, it's fun to watch someone turn full superhero nerd
Black people actually do well in Germany. The US has had a military presence there since 1945. It's the Jews who have a tough time there...
Omg your recap was fucking hilarious. I never laughed so hard 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Civil War was for me the best Marvel movie made so far. Why? Because, of all their movies, I felt like this was a great movie that had superheroes in it rather than being a great superhero movie. This is a movie that even people who are not fans of the genre can enjoy. I enjoyed your reaction, but I have to say, Team Iron Man here. I don’t necessarily think the Sokovia Accords is a great idea, but as much good as the Avengers do, they still act as if they are above the law. Any law. They do not respect borders, property or lives. Maybe the UN isn’t the right organization to supervise the team, but Tony is right; they do need to be put in check.
One of the best Marvel movies ever.
If Disney wants ot make more good Marvel movies they need to bring back the writers and directors of movies like these.
So, now that you've seen it, Team Steve Rogers or Team Tony Stank?
Wow - I had no idea this movie was.a comedy until I watched your reaction. Wait until you get to Infinity War- you should really find that one hilarious.
44:58 just so that u know, Peter is stronger, much stronger than both cap and bucky, he just lacks the experience
Thor!!! Thor came back and gave the machine power nothing happens without Thor😆
38:26. I love this type of editing. Very nice. 😅
Legal Eagle analyzed the legal aspects of the Sokovia Accords. It's an interesting video... suffice it to say, it would not fly. That said, the existing laws against vigilantism would put quite a wrench in any superhero movie.
I love that both sides make sense here. I'm Team Cap because in the end, I plain don't trust bureaucracy, even if it's well-meant. But on the other hand, while Tony and Steve are both good and well-intentioned men and the collateral damage is incidental. But who says that people like that will always be the ones making the decisions? Then again, the accords require surveillance of all "enhanced" people, which, um... yeah. Among other things, it includes Tony and Natasha who are, respectively, smart and well-trained--they have no superpowers or enhanced strength or anything. So is every smart kid subject to surveillance? Every blackbelt martial artist? Where does it stop?
What does GOATED stand for...I am guessing "Greatest of All Time Evil Dudes".....lol
There were more people on the ground than could've been in those building floors. We saw what it did to that building - imagine the open market . . . Wanda did nothing wrong, and they needed something to spark this films premise. I still wish Capt. America had gotten his own 3rd movie since this is Avengers 2.5
A good example of collateral damage was the 'SWAT' team dropping in shooting - hope no one was on the other side of those walls where the bullets hit. Adding too much reality dulls the shine of fantasy.
Marvel need to do more movies like this one again
33:53 yeah the comics did a great job of putting morals and perceptions against a good vs evil aspect when it came to the Accords and the Mutants. Depending on the author, forgot the name, there was even a civil writes subplot with how the Governments treated mutants. PS end your Marvel journey after Endgame, only a few after that are worth watching.
42:11 😮 😅
look up zemos costume in the comics
michelle you didn't show ant man growing
Love your reactions!!!
Peter Parker can bench press 10 tons.
This is the movie where I began to dislike Tony Stark. He created Ultron because his ptsd inspired him to play God. Sokovia is on Tony's hands, so what does do? He throws his team under the bus and has them clean up his mess by trying to hand them over to government control.
Out of the og 6 nat is the most agile and flexible
Don't forget that Scarlett Johansson was pregnant at this time
Spider-Man can lift up to 16 tons I believe
Awesome reaction Beautiful cutie 🥰🥰🥰 classic action Marvel movie 🎥😊
more marvel I'M SAT!!!!!!
Peggy’s grand niece
GIRL YOU BETTER START WATCHING X-MEN
TEAM Ironman
Team Ironman 👍👍👍
If you go back and watch 'Age of Ultron'... Ultron seemed to also have some degree of feelings for Wanda.
I totally agree, it's so hard for me to pick a side in this movie. I love that it offers each argument so fairly that you can see where both sides are coming from. My favourite movie of all time!
Yeah both teams had fair points💯but irl team iron man is more reasonable
Cap was still ultimately more right.
You should listen to your content in stereo. :-)
Thank you for understanding the levels of complexity the central issue of the film is exploring. I find it so weird when people think that superheroes should be exempt from collateral damage accountability. People are ready to sue someone that accidentally allows their shopping cart to hit someone's car in the Walmart parking lot. Everyone is accountable for damages they cause whether intentional or not. It's why we have insurance. And everyone has oversight....EVERYONE. You have oversight the minute you are born til the day you die. Being a superhero would only enhance that, not remove it. And the Avengers were created by SHIELD....a government agency in the MCU. They would have to adhere to the same oversight as SHEILD. They don't get to go where ever they want, pick up the bad guy after destroying a city filled with people and just get up and leave like it magically fixes itself. They only fought aliens that one time. The rest has all been Earth related and mostly caused by a member of The Avengers. The Avengers were always government sanctioned in the comics. And that's why. Only in the MCU were they allowed to just do whatever they wanted, when and where ever they wanted. The comics were more mature about it than the MCU.
I've always said Tony could have at least hooked Wanda up with some therapy or a green card, at least lol. I mean, he kinda indirectly killed her whole family (I'll give some of that to Wanda as well lol). It's the least he could do lol...
57:43 Absolutely. Everyone was in the wrong in this movie
Everything The Avengers has done since forming has been by agenda. Any organization by definition is formed to implement agendas. Cap's basis for his argument is a bit silly. I understand the point of autonomy (which is completely unrealistic) but saying it's because people have agendas is 😂😂😂😂....🤦🏾♂️.
Except that Avengers aren't really corrupt like the people Cap was taking about. The Avengers often take action to do what's right. Despite what you say, Cap isn't really wrong about anything he said in that movie. Cap is a good man (no once of bad) that aims to save the people and goes for freedom.
Seems like you would chose to sign those accords based your comment.
I really can't stand how this girl says the Ennword. Feels unnatural, out of place, and jarring. Like, you know who your audience is, tone it down.
Zemo is so underrated..The fact that he has no superpower but teared Avengers apart completely
Underrated? By whom? Everyone I know loves Zemo.
SPOILERS
There is a reason he's in Falcon and the Winter Soldier as well ad Thunderbolts.
Christ Woman, make comments or a quick point.. don't go into a full 15min rant in the middle of the fkkin movie
Morals vs Ethics.
Team Steve - Morally motivated
Team Tony - Ethically motivated
They both work together, but clash at some point.