The War of the Château Walls
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2022
- We discover the extent of the work required to maintain the vast network of stone walls encasing the Château and uncover an ingenious landscaping design feature.
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That degreening of the walls is something volunteers could well be able to do.
Volunteers was my thought as well!
Oh boy, over 1.5 miles of wall, that is quite a massive undertaking but once done it will just be occasional upkeep and inspection. I greatly respect the desire not to use pesticides to maintain soil health. Nothing is small when ot comes to the Grand Lady Purnon! ❤️ She is lucky to have you.....
thank you so much
You’re very lucky!🥰🎁🎄
Another expression for Ha Ha is "Saut de Loup" which has the same meaning
You guys need a big busy bee to help you clear the vegetation. Lovely watching you face each task with dignity.
thanks so much
Impossible to imagine the time and energy needed to clear nearly 3 kilometres of stone walls (which have inside, outside and critically the tops) . Your total commitment to doing this in an way that is both environmentally and farm/park friendly speaks volumes about the quality of this project!
thanks so much
OMG, 2 kilometers, is 6,550. feet for all my American friends, that is a lot of walls to be cleaned. Thank you so much for doing this task without the use of Chemicals, my heart goes out to you, can you take on volunteers to help you. The patreon is really good for funds, but you need labor. The unfortunate problem with water is it's so destructive, and you can't stop the rain, this is a massive undertaking. I am curious about the mysterious haha, hmmm.
Thank you Joni
Thank you for the historical perspective of the "haha".
pleasure!
@@phyllisburrell8661 Hi Phyllis. Thank you. I will be returning to France in a few weeks to sign the final documents for my new house. The excitement is building! 😄 Stay tuned... Cheers to the holidays!
I Hope whatever fell off the chateau, the other day, wasn’t too serious! Next year should be a big year, being able to get a lot done! Just finishing the roof is a major accomplishment in and of itself! Enjoy all the haha’s Cheers!
A small army of volunteers would Help ! Massive task good luck
Thank you!
Smart decision to clear the walls from the plants. The small haha is probably made in favor of a building you can't see any more. Do look for foundations in that area. 👍
There are no foundations or any signs that there was a building there ...
What a monumental task! You take so much care for the buildings, the park and the environment. You employ the best people and do all the work you can do by yourself. That’s the spirit! Glad to be able to support you with a small contribution to Patreon!
Thank you so much Michael. We are so very grateful for your support!
Tim, put on some KNEE PADS!
Lovely stone wall. Do you accept volunteers? You could see this wall restored in your lifetime. Outdoor accommodations and a cook area. Just a thought. Restoration takes time, money and care. This is where community comes in.
Thanks so much Deb
Hello , Love watching your videos and all the hard work that you are doing . I have seen other chateaus as rooms inside are repaired they invite volunteers to stay in return for help getting what ever may need to be done around the chateau . This seems a good idea as both parties get something out of it at the same time the great lady Chateau Purnon gets another step closer to the great state she deserves to be in . @
Of all the chateau restoration channels that I have subscribed to, I think you have the most beautiful chateau of all.. Thx for bringing us along on your adventures... One question, How many acres make up this property? Thx again for bringing us along...
Thanks so much Gary. The domain is around 24 hectares.
Around 60 acres.
Instead of chemicals, what about using a large propane torch to burn out the roots? This is commonly used when ivy needs to be cleared off of walls.
The stone wall into the forest would be there so that horses may jump over that wall during the hunt...as well as the larger hunting dogs..animals ran to the forest for shelter and the men would chase after the animals, deer can jump much higher than horses so the Haha served a purpose!!! Remember they didn't have Lidl, Carrefour or Auchan and ate what they hunted or raised.
Interesting thought however this particular HaHa is far too high for a horse to jump and it is also not in an area of the property where hunting would take place ...
Yes, all those ha ha’s look like amazing banks to be jumped down!
That is what my inner rider kept thinking!
Look at the Chateau du Theil on UA-cam, where they have had to rebuild much of their walls. The work is not as extensive or as tall as yours, but the method they used for reworking the tops of their walls might be of interest to you.
Thank you
the walls are lovely I just love everything about the chateaus
thanks for sharing our pasison x
You guys need some volunteers. Especially for those walls. Of course, they may need to bring their own RV’s with them.
That third haha looks like it’s meant for horses to jump during fox hunts. They wouldn’t want to take the time to open or close a gate. And I’ve never seen a fox hunt that didn’t have obstacles to jump over🤷♀️
it seems that it is too high for a horse to be able to jump
@ ahh, gotcha. It’s hard to tell from the video, and not knowing the exact topography from way back when I thought it possible. We just moved into a 232 year old home in Vermont, and I get so confused trying to work out how different the land was back then. We moved here from Washington State, and there was nothing that old back there! Lol
When I saw the ha ha’s my inner rider just kept thinking what a fun bank to jump.
And banks are jumped down not up, so it is wholly possible.
Such a beautiful Château and the landscape is amazing.
I envy you your walls and gates! Beautiful!
Thank so much - I think the wall is far too high for a horse to safely jump ...
Love this story! Regarding keeping the vegetation down, have you considered getting some goats? Our city uses them to keep public areas clear of overgrowth. After the goats eat (clear out) the growth someone picks them up and moves them around to the next area. Not like you don' have enough on your hands but maybe these little guys can help you out and cut back on some of the labor. Best of luck to you and thank you again for sharing your journey with Château du Purnon!
Good idea! If you have portable electric fencing you can move the goats section by section.
great idea!. I live on a small island off Cape Cod (part of Massachusetts USA). Our island has lots of poison ivy, which fortunately, goats love. Someone on a nearby island raises goats that they "farm out". Our island rented 4 goats for a month, and the goat-herder moved them around each day to a new section. He brought portable fencing, not electrified. You would have to get control of the vegetation first, but then goat would be able to keep it under control.
Yes - goats are the only thing for blackberries, but I don't know how they'd safely get to the top of the wall in this case. But also - VINEGAR! It's not an herbicide - it totally won't kill the roots, and the grass especially will be back in a matter of weeks - but it'll kill the foliage for a good six weeks or so, at least. It can at least make it easier to yank things off the wall. (IOW, never use this near anything tender/annual; but vinegar won't permanently kill anything you REALLY want gone.)
It's an acid, so I wouldn't rely on it regularly because it might start to deteriorate the wall underneath - but to do an initial application to get ahead of a big job? I'd definitely do that - what little gets on the stone and masonry will probably just clean it. Do a section at a time; let it sit for a week, and *then* go out and start yanking off the shriveled, dying stuff.
Use a natural weed killer which is a mixture of 1gall white vinegar, 1cup of salt and tablespoon of dish soap mix it up well until salt is dissolved then spray it on the weeds and within a day or 2 they are dead you can then choose to remove or burn the dead weeds in situ. The downfall is this makes you feel hungry due to it smelling like your outside an English fish and chip shop! 😊
This is my first times seeing this castle. They seem like a lovely couple.I like the way they work together. Very much like Carol and Aidan.
Thank you for these carefully created videos helps us who are shut in and at the end of our time to get out with you and see things we would never see here in Canada . An adventure priceless!
Something that Chateau de Lalande did was too pull off all that they could, but then followed behind with a flame thrower to burn the remaining and stop the regrowth. Not sure if that would help, but may be worth checking into.
THANK YOU for not just spraying it with an herbicide. Yes it's easier but usually that means detrimental in some area or another. I appreciate that you recognize that the negatives outweigh the convenience.
Are you able to get on with a program such as WOOFERs? I'm not sure if there is a "château maintenance" sector, but there are so many youth programs that I'll bet you could find help in summer for a few months and have more hands on deck. Not so much for the skilled trades, but devegetation seems like a good application.
Regardless, it's always such a joy to see your progress and visit new areas of the grounds ❤️ Hope you guys have a fabulous holiday!
Hi fellow Aussies, I love what you are achieving at Purnon!
I live in an eco housing estate in South Australia amongst a wetlands area which supports wildlife and aquatic life which includes breeding of endangered fish for restocking rivers. We have extensive walking trails and regenerative woodlands.
The local council and residents restrict their use of weed killers to eco friendly herbicides which are glyphosate free, have no systemic residue and are animal and frog friendly.
One of these pesticides is a registered organic herbicide called Slasher Organic Weedkiller which acts within 1 hour. It is crop protective as well. And safe for pets once dried.
It isn’t cheap but perhaps it can be purchased in bulk or even sponsored. Hope this helps Tim in his massive project!
Thank you so much Andrea - wishing you a lovely holiday also x
Thanks so much Jennifer we will have a look at this!
I could stay up there all day clearing those walls. I couldn't imagine anything more peaceful
The enormity of your work is phenomenal! Watching you from the beginning of your vlogs, I not only think you’ll have the energy & capability to be able to do it all, but you will do her justice in the most respectful and beautiful way. I’m grateful that you’re sharing your journey.
Thanks so much 😊
Wonderful work for everyone’s delight
I love the haha s what a ahha idea...really nice to see the views ...
I think that the haha to the Woodland was to bring the feel of woodland into the garden without the animals. Perhaps there were many spring bulbs or some special trees planted there for example.
this is definitely a possibility x
It is a huge task. Congratulations on your determination to restore the walls. 👍
you should make a little wall robot that rides on the top triangle of the walls that weeds the top and then drives to a charching station at evening :)
Just make a party for cleaning the walls. Sure the job will be done. Hi from USA
I don't have a chateau... just an old house with about 20m of stone wall and can't even manage to take off the ivy growing back every year ,,, so I totaly hear you ! Maybe organizing a grand "journée portes ouvertes" with people from all over france (and youtube) coming to help. Everybody has 5m of wall to clean and then they get to walk freely in the chateau park. Only 400 people needed easy ! It's a give and give, and maybe a new tradition established. I don't see any other way to maintain this gorgeous wall than with multiple hands !
If I took a drink for every time you said ha ha I’d be dead from alcohol poisoning. 😊
Haha!!
I see this on many vlogs, when removing vegetation from walls, if you did out roots then pull branches you will accomplish two steps. Cause if you just pull branches it will grow bavk...
we have been digging out all the roots which is one of the reasons it is taking so long!
Go around the bottom of the walls during winter and cut at ground level and let the weeds die before pulling them
It is a real gem you got 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
thank you x
Such important work and the scale of restoration is enormous. Wishing you much success in your efforts. The chateau is in good hands with you. Thanks for sharing 😍🙏
Thank you so much Rosemarie
You need a team of interns or volunteers to clean that vegetation from the wall. It's not skilled labor as much as mindless repetitive work. Local kids would be ideal so that you don't have to house and feed them 3 meals a day. Because it's going to take a really long time and when you finish, you'll have to start all over again. Not every job requires a museum curator or conservator. The French seem to really love and identify with this part of their heritage, I don't see why they would perceive it any differently than cleaning up a roadside or waterway. It's a matter of national pride.
I was in a service group in college that paid to pick up trash for a weekend between Rapid City, SD and the Mount Rushmore monument. It's a distance of about 23 miles. Yes you understood that correctly, we paid to pick up trash. We paid for our lodging at an area summer camp, and our food and transportation to Rapid City and back for the pleasure of picking up the castoffs of our fellow citizens and patriotic tourists. We voted to pass on the opportunity the following year. What it taught me was not to expect too much from free labor. For many years the Boy Scouts had done it in exchange for a contribution to the organization, but stopped when the funding was eliminated. They got us to do it once, but not twice.
You might investigate if there's a natural treatment to inhibit vegetation once its removed. Hedera helix really is an horribly invasive species and not just deleterious to stone walls. If you have much wooded land, there are countless trees under attack from ivy right now. The amount of damage it does when left unchecked it nothing short of amazing.
yes it's a real menace!
Your energy and dedication is truely amazing. Love your updates and appreciate you sharing your progress. Purnon is lucky to have you. Have a happy Christmas. 🇦🇺
Thank you so much and Happy Christmas x
Vous voilà lauréat du loto du Patrimoine. Bravo!
Merci beaucoup!
Just joined Patreon, its great to help in miniscule way the hahas
Thank you so much and welcome to Patreon. It's a huge help to us and we look forward to keeping you updated. Thank you again! x
Cut the base of the Vines and let them die would make it easier to pull off the walls👍
A labor of Love . Beautiful !
thank you
Can you use the measurements tool on Google Earth to simplify your measuring?
First!! Cheers from Linz, Austria ( freezing, snow) 😎
we haven't had any snow here yet but it's very cold! stay safe and enjoy (hopefully) a white Christmas
@ Freezing rain here which makes all the trees beautiful.
I would love to work in such a project helping you to rebuild this magnificent chateau. It would be fantastic
Wow, amazing job clearing the walls! It is not an easy task at all. Especially removing vegetation embedded in the fence cap and walls! 🎉 keep up this essentials work, you're doing amazing!!!
Thank you so much x
Just discovered you this weekend, you have quite a task ahead of you (to be young again 😉) and your videos are very informative. When I checked your location on the map it was quite obvious that the grand allée points to Paris, have you found something about that? Greetings from Zürich
Great interesting vlog. Goodness gracious, the huge jobs just keep mounting up. I admire your care and expertise so much.
Thank you so much Louise
You have beautiful greenhouse or orangerie, I would like to see it restored!!
We would also love to see the Orangerie restored!
@ when you have it done we invite you for a glass of champagne, well, infact, even before that, all the best, Henrik
For the haha with an unknown purpose - did you look into where the tree line was originally, and what the propose of that area was? Those trees look to be within 100 years, might have originally looked quite different.
Also, the way those hahas are shaped reminds me of animal crossing in Canada. Animals don't have a fear of jumping in, but then can't jump out. Maybe it's a crossing point of some kind.
In Versailles park, you have hahas in long alley crossing the walls between the park itself and the neighboring forest. The purpose is quite obvious, with the hahas, those alley look very long and are not visually interrupted by Versaille's park walls. I guess the purpose of your unexplained haha is similar, in 1789 there should have been a long straight alley in the forest behind this haha and probably a shorter one in the park, before the haha
To us the wall looks far too high for an animal to be able to jump ...
It is possible that there was an alley behind the HaHa as the trees are not as dense directly behind the haha however it's position is curious...
Put on is so lovely! It has the best bones! It will be such a showplace for you both! Best of luck!
Have you investigated the idea of doing a "controlled burn" of the vegetation on the walls??? - it might not kill the plants entirely, but it would make de-vegetating the walls a lot easier. I don't know if using a blow torch to scorch the plants would damage the stones? Just an idea!
Now we are getting interesting. Well done.
Time to get to 10...0 k
thank you so much
Doggie needs a companion, no?
I think so!
Wish I was there to help 💕
Your third haha appears to be either for chasing deer etc out of the park or for horse hunt egress or both
The wall seems to be far too high for a horse to safely jump
Even if you used chemicals you would have to pull the wood vines etc. right?
You have most likely thought of this, regarding the haha in the woods: the trees there now were, of course, not there when the wall was built. Try discovering on your maps what kind of view would have been possible without this tree in the way. Perhaps an allee of some kind.
Этот плющ можно корни внизу подрезать когда засохнут и убрать ветки,так наверное было бы легче,чем лазать и срезать каждую ветку.
Maybe a working bee to help devegitate the walls?! I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to lend a hand.
We normally have a couple of working bees each year - we may include the wall devegetation work on one of them! Thank you for following our journey!
I think this would be an easy area that unskilled but motivated people could assist with. What an amazing thing you're tackling. Love from Brisbane!
Wonder if one of those weed burners might be useful for the de-vegetation of the walls?
At the moment the coverage too dense and the the area too vast however we do find the burners work really well on the paths and stone gutters.
I wonder how much of the walls saw action in world War 2? Any history there? I can see where this somewhat hidden wall would come in handy to resistance fighters and folks seeking a place to hide.
No fighting there.
I wonder if the landscaping around the third haha was just never completed?
This is a possibility as the château construction was halted due to the Revolution
How do you heat up the chateau and how well is it insulated?
Very fascinating videos. Thanks for letting us be a part of the restauration and preservation of something so beautiful.
Easy to respond : No insulation. At all. 😂
In terms of heating I think (and hope) the owners appartement is the only place that will be on an acceptable temperatur.
With a partially opened and very damaged roof, with old, damaged and single glass wooden windows, with doors that doesn't close, and very hight ceilings everywhere, it would be stupid trying to heat ... for no result.
Wow! What an epic job you both have ahead. She's in great hands. Tim, is there some sort of natural herbicide you can use that will do the same or similar job as the chemicals?
The area is so vast that we feel the best way is to tackle it manually and ensure that we remove the roots at the same time to prevent them growing back!
@ When you finish removing the ivy roots from the walls, pour vinegar or salt by the wall base so you don't know ivy growing there again. You can get big barrels for cheap, in farm supply stores probably in France. I killed fox grass that way, and now have nettle growing instead .
If you dony use chemicals they will get back fast than you can clean the entire wall
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IF YOU DO NOT MIND ME SAYING.... THE MOLT.... WE DO NTO KNOW HOW DEEP IT IS BUT EVER THOUGHT ABOUT GOING TRESURE HUNTING... NOT KNOW HOW FAR BACK IN TIME IT GOES.... AND THEY DEAL IN SLIVER AND GOLD.. AND MANY OTHER THINGS....
🎄👏🎄 Tim you care TOO TOO much about the environment, which I applaud BUT spray that vegetation first off so it has less time to do more damage then go manual❣️
OR I wish the nearby community offered to help you.
That's another question I've had - are the French people doing much about saving these chateaux ?
They appeared to be interested enough to visit on Open Day so I would hope you received lots of offers of voluntary help from the locals.
You have taken on a wonderful mammoth task.
I admire your passion, strength and courage greatly ❣️
God bless you with miracles 🎄🙏🎄
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There are natural weed killers, like salt and vinegar solutions. Wouldn't it be much easier and less time consuming to pull down dead and dried plant matter? It doesn't have to require poisonous chemicals.
the expanse of the walls is simply too great to use vinegar so it is best we remove them by their roots
Крышу как долго кроют?Дожди и снега идут.В чем дело?Стоит и стоит недоделанная крыша!
Could you use a blow torch to burn off the vegetation on the walls?
I am curious to know how much land the estate consists of?
Cleaning it's with hand is OK for now but it will start growing again in spring. Then best thing to do is spray roundup if they start growing again For some plants I saw growing on the wall there is now other solution.
We've been removing the roots so hopefully that will work!
Did the former owners ever leave any records of how large a household and staff lived at any one time on the estate? Some of the big country houses in Britain often have detailed records going back centuries. They also often have account books. I wonder how many men it took and how long to build 2 km of walls? No doubt the costs would be in Livre what ever that would convert to now? Was the grand allee also once part of the estate?
I sometimes watch the Urbex kids who love to explore abandoned places. It's surprising how often they find old places that sit left rotting with a cabinet or shelves of ancient records just turning to mildew. The places are often caught in family inheritance disputes yet no one lifts a finger to secure the places or protect and conserve the records. I don't understand them? How hard would it be for the executor to at least protect the records?
The stone looks so much like the building stone all over eastern PA in the Poconos. Some variety of shale I think? Smallish pieces that stack up almost like brick. My Dad used to dig it up all over his yard and build dry walls with it and it was fairly stable. Some of yours looked like dry walls too but it's hard to see on a little screen.
Ouch what a lot of work. I hope you make it to a satisfactory conclusion someday.
BTW - there are a few colonial era estates in Virginia and the south that had hahas. The parks around the Trianons at Versailles had them too. They used the ditch type more often in the south perhaps because it wasn't as expensive. Even those at Versailles were the ditch type - at least what I saw.
Would burning the vegetation off be an option?
Just wondering if you have thought about getting in volunteer's? Stephanie Jarvis has volunteer's staying with her all of the time . Roof over the head and meals provided goes along way.
Hi Jacqueline - we currently do not have any rooms where we can house volunteers ... we don't even have a shower for us let alone others! Purnon is quite a different project to Stephanie's who has a chateau which is already livable :)
Do you have a shredder?
Yes we have a wood chipper
All those plants removed would be great shredded and composted. Pulling for y'all from Waco, Texas. You should invite Chip and Joanna Gaines from Magnolia to do a special on your rehab.
Why do he clean the wall for vegetation? No need, the wall is so nice with this vegetation.
Just a thought...
What about getting/ hiring a cherry picker to speed things up?
you add it up wrong its not 2km its 4 km cos theres two side to the wall good luck
Couldn’t you use a blow torch On the vegetation on the walls to kill it and make it easier to get it off?
Before we arrived, herbicides were used to kill the ivy and other vegetation growing on the walls. We are reluctant to use this method as we are surrounded by farming fields. While a blow torch could kill a very stubborn section, we are having success gradually removing each section using the various tools and equipment we have available. Thank you for following our project!
Are these walls boundry walls?
Yes, the estate is enclosed by several kilometres of stone walls.
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Что то такое ha ha?
It’s shame that previous owners of the numerous chateaus did not invest in on going maintenance of the property and chateaus. They lived in Luxury and lazyness and now others work so hard and spend so much money to preserve them
It would be nice to remember that the families who owned these chateaux did not have fortunes or family members that survived two world wars.
Sadly I am unsubscribing. I cannot afford to be a Patreon and see little of what you are accomplishing within th chateau. I get frustrated over the minimal amount I actually get to see. I wish you only the best in your massive endeavour.
We are very sorry you feel that way as we put a huge amount of work into sharing our journey here. You can also get a daily update on Instagram where we share an update every day in our stories.
Yes, it feels more like a historical documentary than a chateau renovation.
@@lindamounts2193 The restoration we are undertaking here is monumental in size. One of the MOST important aspects of the restoration is ensuring the heritage is respected and protected. This is NOT about changing the paint colour of a dining room or creating a boot room ... Purnon will never be about that. The restoration of Purnon is a journey to actually SAVE the château and then RESTORE the château. At this point in time Purnon at risk of being lost forever due to to a long period of neglect. The Château roof and facades are currently being restored and we one year into a multi year project to do so. Purnon is a classified historic monument and its restoration project is therefore respectful to the property's history and heritage whilst securing and protecting its future.