The New Doctor Who Showrunner is a Hack Fraud (Chris Chibnall) - NitPix
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2017
- I watched every Doctor Who episode written by the new head writer - Chris Chibnall. I did it so you don't have to. Let me know your thoughts on Chibby below!
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Fuck you and your shit videos. My content is much better than yours.
Shut up your content sucks
P.s Yes I do know this guy owns both accounts
DikPix u suck
DikPix you have no content
Batman Arkham Universe that’s the joke
I always thought you had better content, tbh.
Guess the cube lord had trouble thinking outside the box
Joe Eden 10/10
EPIC
Well I've peaked
All that was missing was a sunglasses take and a Roger Daltrey 'YEAAAAAAH!' sting. !D
Seriously, though, even I came up with a slightly more dramatic ending for the episode that fits in with its own theme
-The Doctor pulls wires and sonics connections and frantically frenagles the second pulse synced with the end of the countdown to normalize the cube victim's heartbeats, the only problem being that he's had to guess which of the pulse emitters three frequency channels the first wave of cubes is locked to., and if he gets it wrong, he may just trigger the second wave.
Doctor: So, crunch time. Fire the pulse, I risk killing another third of humanity. Don't fire the pulse, I let the first third die. What do I do?
As his hand hovers over the big switch and the countdown ticks away, Rory and Amy place their hands over his in solidarity, a responsibility they will share, i.e, the Power of Three. Simple enough.
Chibnall spent a year studying Dr. Who in order to come up with the best plan to destroy it.
And he Suck-Seed-ed. Chinballs is Lame.. pure Rubbish as they say in Great Britain. His secret weapon is Boring the audience, and he excels at it. That's why I call him Chinballs. Roflmao..
😆👍
6 years in his case.
CHINBALLS almost did destroy Dr. Who.
Boris Johnson spent 3 years studying British politics to come up with the best way to destroy it, and the British economy.
You was right. He can't write a good script. He struggles with dialog and has a fetish for blatant exposition
For sure
There’s no arc in this series which it had been in EVERY series from Davies’ era
Yep
I didn't know Doctor Who was aired between two pipes.
@@OwainFrost Thanks glad someone got it.
how right you are
I love your videos!
And it doesn't get better
Oh my god, it’s llama human
Oh how fun, I saw Jay's 5-hour-breakdown on why Chibnal Who is bad, and then come here to review why Chibnal Who always has been bad, to find Jay has left a comment.
Lovely.
You're a man and always will be!
Chibnall did his best to prove you so utterly correct.
You left out the best part of Dinosaurs on a Spaceship - where the Doctor straight-up kills the bad guy. Talk about completely misunderstanding the main character.
everyone: - looks at timeless children - yeah... But is it worse than fucking up canon?
Simply Danny Man I think it’s more about consistency, the character established after the time war.
JAMES WE'RE GOING TO BE KILLED
Maybe it is consistent, maybe he is gradually becoming more ruthless...
...enter, cowardly, pixie doctor. Nvm 🤷♂️
Consistency of sick.
And the Timeless Child lark confirms that he misunderstands the main character!
The 5th Dr doss murder the cyberleader and the 6th poisons shockeye
I'd completely forgotten that Tesco Palpatine was the villain in The Power Of Three, so little impact did he actually have. All I remember is the Doctor literally hand-waving a solution out of thin air, and what an utterly stupid and deflating ending that was.
Actually this one isn't Chibbers' fault. The actor of Cube Man outright refused to cooperate and deliberately ruined takes, to the point where they had so little usable footage that they CGed him into a hologram and had the Doctor magic wand an ending.
Chibbers is a terrible writer but this one really isn't his fault.
I just want to say that I absolutely adore the term "Tesco Palpatine"
I actually liked the episode until the ending, the countdown was fine cause I expected it to pay off. But i guess a satisfying ending is too much too ask for.
Weren't the people also under cardiac arrest for longer than 20 minutes, and should therefore be suffering from permanent damage, even if their hearts rebooted.
More like Anakin Skywalker under the helmet.
Who's here in 2020, standing over the ashes of the Doctor?
me :(
At least Power of Three isn’t the very worst Nu Who anymore. You have a whole 2 seasons worth of shit to pick from.
@@CraigTulloch It wasn't the worst, Love & Monsters, and Kill the Moon were the worst... also Dinosaurs on a Spaceship
Of course now the Timless Child is the worst by way too far.
Ouch
L̶a̶d̶y̶ Fox Ŵøłfæ Well Live and Monsters and Kill The Moon weren’t that bad. Neither one of them made me want to stop watching the show. 1 season of Chibnall stopped me watching a show I’ve watched since Pertwee’s debut.
@@CraigTulloch Yeah I know, season 11 and 12 are worse than those episodes
You were right. The only episode that was decent was the one not written by Chibnall. the worst part is, people will blame having a female Doctor than because of his terrible scripts
Sadly, this seems to be what is happening.
No, I think there are more people blaming the writing now... The "Female Doctor" haters didn't see that coming ^^'
@JoeRingo118 Except series 10 had Bill, who was supposedly an "agenda pushing" companion, and it ended up being one of the better new Who series, so really diversity has nothing to do with episode quality. Shit writing is shit writing, and series 11 would have been lacklustre trash if it had been four cishet white dudes in the TARDIS.
@JoeRingo118 it isn't though, there is nothing wrong with a female doctor, he's female because the doctor regenerated into a woman, now if the show was constantly going on about how great is is because the doctor doesn't have a dick, then you'd be right, but the show doesn't do that.
Chibnall just can't write a good story but there's nothing bad about a female doctor
@JoeRingo118 Except that's not really the case? Hi, it's me, your local massive SJW, who thought the Ghostbusters 2016 trailers looked naff, and that the "It's About Time" marketing campaign for Series 11 was self congratulatory wank, and that the series itself was overall wank.
Just because I'm a hardcore feminist doesn't mean I excuse shitty writing in progressive media, in fact I'm much more likely to be critical of it because, in my opinion, there's a shortage of media that represents women and minorities well. Blatant tokenism and corporations trying to look progressive really pisses me off, because it's taking up space in the cultural zeitgeist that could be used for actually well written stuff like the She-Ra reboot.
Basically, people you disagree with aren't predisposed to be mindless drones who like whatever media pays lip service to their values
/rant
Now that series 11 is over I now have a whole new appreciation for this video.
Everything you said about 42 is EXACTLY what's wrong with The Ghost Monument!! I had to rewatch this video after seeing it. It would be awesome if you reviewed Chibnall's writing in Season 11.
We can see all the Chibnal traits with this episode.
Sonic is a smartphone, have to be inside by night (countdown timer, last episode had the DNA bombs), robots (why???). Plus I felt like the episode just got boring as barely anything happened.
On another note:
The intro is ok but it is very short.
The TARDIS also seems very bland and not that exciting. It feels like a set. It dosen't feel like the Tardis.
@@Jimmy_Jones The saddest part is that the concept for the episode was actually good, the problem was the execution. The plot was all over the place: there was a race but nobody seemed to act like it was, there were too many threats solved in two seconds in a Deus Ex Machina sort of way, the scenes didn't feel like they had continuity at all, the dialogues were SO BAD (exposition after exposition without any subtlety whatsoever), there were too many themes/messages and none of them developed enough to be memorable...
Also the ending didn't make any sense:
- You can't both win!
- What if we give you an empty, impossible-to-follow-through threat?
- Sure, you can both win!
- There is no hope whatsoever. The TARDIS is lost and we're doomed.
- Cheer up, Doc!
* TARDIS shows up out of nowhere *
I LOVE Jodie and the character of Thirteen, I really like the companions, the music, the cinematography... but all those good elements aren't enough to distract from the bad writing. Good actors can only do so much with terrible lines. I hope next week is better since there's a different writer!
Flor Pusnar the music!!! That weird ambient droning is not music. It’s as bland and forgettable as everything else in this series.
@@CraigTulloch I don't dislike the new music, but it's definitely very different from what we were used to. Murray Gold's music is very extra and I love it and I really miss it
@@RUClassicallyTrained I love soundtracks and I have many favourites but when season 11 was being shown a few people were talking about how good the music was and I realised I hadn't't even registered that there was any. I listened to the soundtrack album on it's release and to say I was underwhelmed was an understatement. I should say that despite being lifelong fan of the show since Pertwee's debut episode I stopped watching.
There is nothing in this show that brings me joy or excitement. Cant wait for Chibnall to go and hopefully they get someone who is competent to replace him.
the moment when you realise: almost all episodes that you skip in a rewatch, are ALL chibnall episodes.
for me the doctor ended with the 12th.
omfg yes! I legit just rewatched doctor who from season 5 to season 8 and guess what? All the episodes that i skipped are in this video. : ^ )
agreed, as soon as the 12th doctor regerated, the series ended
and then it was replace by dr woke
@@CRAZYMUGMAN The 12th Doctor, particular with Bill, had several "woke" episodes actually.
@@SPM0717 i know, but atleast it was still dr who
agreed. anything else that happened after that isnt canon to me;( especially timeless child
Your meltdown over the cube episode KILLED me, that was amazing
I think it's fucking annoying af, so much so that I've downvoted and unsubbed.
What was the music during that scene from
@XB950 That’s from the TV show Dark isn’t it?
It kills me every time 10/10 my fave parts of his vids
@@tyrroo go back to reddit idiot
So far in series 11 we've had all the bad Chibnall tropes...
Arbitrary countdowns.
Overuse of the sonic.
Confused themes.
Bad dialogue.
Shit antagonists
Jodie's performances have been great but I have a feeling all her best episodes will be written by the guest writers.
Jodie's performance has hardly been great, you can see through her "acting"
Jodie hasn't impressed me. The doctor is safe, unchallenging, her dialogue and actions have been dull and a bit of a dim blonde stereotype. Jodie is playing that and I feel she is as uncertain as her doctor about it. The anger is wooden and the timing feels scripted, two drafts. I don't understand the loyalty to the Chib because her chance for a meaty role is shallow, by numbers disappointment. I wish I didn't have this opinion, this feeling.
@@CCrohny she might be struggling under the lame script.
"Jodie's performances have been great" All I saw was this chick running around making faces, yelling incoherent nonsense and waiving her Harry potter wand around. Oh by the way I am an American I cannot understand 2/3 rds of what anybody is saying in this DR WHO thing, it might as well be French; no wait I speak French, scratch that ; I might as well be is Liverpool OUi oyu croui mou, oouut Scrou oooip noiret.
You remember the opening scene from "It Takes You Away" where the Doctor picks up a pile of dirt and eats it? That frozen Norwegian dirt had more charisma than Jodie.
I did not expect Emperor Palpatine to be the lord of the cubes....
Anyway:
I just watched a Documentary about
Doctor Whos 'Theme-Episodes'... ya know,
like "Clima Change is bad,
Guns are bad,
the Cow makes Mooh,
we Fans are idiots"...
Maybe most 'mind-numbing' is the Tesla-Stuff;
i think the 'Aiccidental Trump-Support', trying to be Anti-Trump
already world-damaging (in real life!) enough,
but the Message that Tesla
is under-valued is so
MIND NUMBINGLY obvious.
3:24 "umm *EEOEOE* "
3:27 "umm *EEOEOE* "
3:32 "umm *EEOEOE* "
*UMM EEOEOE*
He says that as much as Aaron Taylor-Johnson says "Ya know". Ya know?
This comment made me laugh so damn hard
@@Evanz111 I still do not get it?
I can never unhear this! Hahhaha
That noise goes right through me.
This has aged like fine wine
Maybe most 'mind-numbing' is the Tesla-Stuff;
i think the 'Aiccidental Trump-Support', trying to be Anti-Trump
already world-damaging (in real life!) enough,
but the Message that Tesla
is under-valued is so
MIND NUMBINGLY obvious.
I dont just say 'It hurts my brain' as a Phrase, i swear!
I can 'literally' (!!!) feel physical Pain while watching that
Episode! I swear i mean it literally!
Hell yeah cube man is my daddy
Ferret Unknown yes
I don't remember my cube man
My cube said he was going out for a pack of tubes and never came back
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I suspect it was Moffat who added the part in "The Power of Three" that had the Cubes attack The Doctor's left heart immediately after he mentioned the Cubes only attack human hearts... That was the only good thing in that episode, and it was an Easter Egg that 99% of the viewers didn't even catch...
What was zhe easter egg
@@fireykitten9217 since the doctor has two hearts on both sides, the cubes attacked his heart on the left side - as humans have hearts on their left side.
In a movie the doctor says he is a human on his mother’s side
@@onyn3551 not canon
@@Elyiscool it has never been officially retconed sooo
Having watched the whole new season... you were so depressingly right.
Just like how Rory was erased from history he’s death was erased from this video
Green Knight
I had to scroll so far for this comment, I considered posting it myself :D
Yeah, he said everyone was fine at the end of the episode, and I was sat there wondering: "Uh, what about rory being erased from existence?"
To be fair, that was probably added by Moffat because it's part of the season arc. If Chibnall was left to his own devices it wouldn't have happened. It even felt like an afterthought tacked on at the last minute and somebody thought "Let's stick a scene of 2020 Amy and Rory in at the beginning so that it seems like we planned this the whole time, and do whatever the opposite of foreshadowing is." Oh yeah, the opposite of foreshadowing is screwing with the audience, by say, killing off a character and then say j/k. Something Moffat and Chibnall have in common.
Chibnall said Moffat told him to kill off Rory.
Green Knight He shouldve been the protagonist. He's the only one with flaws and development.
Eleven is just an egotistical asshole as if he forgot all the development of the precious seasons because they wanted to appeal to the tumblr fans that loved Ten's wacky side but forgot that Tennant was good as the Doctor because he was very two faced - he had a fun side but hes also very tired and lacks patience after all his negative experiences and loses.
Rory was always the only one with an tolerable personality and character
i hope chibnall brings cubeman back
#bringcubemanback
Who was Cubeman?
11:51
Rjay_coral
His best story, sure, but after the halfway mark... ("Resurrection of the Daleks" did not have as many flaws!!!)
This video prepared me for disappointment in 2017 so I've come back 5 and a half years later to say thank you.
Russel T. Davies, please come back, the world is falling apart without you.
Russel T Davies, please go away, you have killed dead what Chibnall started.
I personally liked 42 but you opened my eyes of how weak these storylines are by Chibnall. 😕 They weren't the worst episodes but if this is ALL he's done with DW so far...yikes!
Yeah he did the majority of Torchwood episodes when it wasn't Americanised in the last two series, I believe. And that show was fantastic
That bit about cubeman culminating in "when you have bloody laser eyes" was hilarious. I watched it several times.
Anyway:
I just watched a Documentary about
Doctor Whos 'Theme-Episodes'... ya know,
like "Clima Change is bad,
Guns are bad,
the Cow makes Mooh,
we Fans are idiots"...
Maybe most 'mind-numbing' is the Tesla-Stuff;
i think the 'Aiccidental Trump-Support', trying to be Anti-Trump
already world-damaging (in real life!) enough,
but the Message that Tesla
is under-valued is so
MIND NUMBINGLY obvious.
I dont just say 'It hurts my brain' as a Phrase, i swear!
I can 'literally' (!!!) feel physical Pain while watching that
Episode! I swear i mean it literally!
THIS AGED WELL!! 2020 HERE
Just came back to this to say you nailed this....
Meant to comment on this ages ago but god damn this video is funny. Genuinely hilarious how you've pulled apart these episodes, looking forward to your next project bro!
Harry's Moving Castle thanks man!
Harry's Moving Castle I love your videos Harry! Your my favourite reviewer ever 😃
I like both of you. I like Plinkett better though you HACK FRAUDS
Well shit! I´ve watched this video before! I made comments! And now I´m watching and cherishing it again! How could I forget such an amazing and funny video in less than half a year time???
Mocking Doctor Who can be just as much fun as loving Doctor Who. How is that not the best fucking show of all time???
Anyone else think "Cube Man" looks like Darth Vader as he was unmasked in Return of the Jedi?
John Linde Yeah!
I was thinking the same thing
I thought that was supposed to be an Easter egg
Now saying that is going mustafar!
Honestly thought he looked a bit like an unhooded Palpatine
Now that the series has started... Yep. Just as bland and boring as all the other Chibnall episodes. He seems to like making the Sonic Screwdriver capable of doing absolutely anything. He seems to love Deus Ex Machinas. He just can’t write a decent script.
He can write an episode better than you!
@@roosterandguppy2373 A backed-up toilet could write a better episode than Chris Chibnall.
this video aged so well. I'm impressed
The episodes presented here are not the worst by a long shot. The one about Robin Hood made me despair for the future of Doctor Who in a big way, as did Sleep No More.
And the "moon is an egg" one, and that forest one with the kids. Ugh.
Yeah, Mark Gatiss' episodes have been consistently bad.
whose mark gatiss? did he make Kill The Moon?
+Logan R. He was the villain in The Lazarus Experiment in Series 3, and he wrote The Unquiet Dead in Series 1, The Idiot's Lantern in Series 2, Victory of the Daleks in Series 5, Night Terrors in Series 6, Cold War and The Crimson Horror in Series 7, Robot of Sherwood in Series 8, Sleep No More in Series 9, and Empress of Mars in Series 10.
If a single person was responsible for Robot of Sherwood, Sleep no More and Empress of Mars, he must be a descendant of Typhoid Mary.
he told the fans to "shut up"
never forget
nah thats a good thing, shows that listen to fans i.e sherlock get shitter the more they listen to them. being a commited fan doesnt make you a skilled screenwriter
But if people's hearts stop and they go without oxygen for that long... they'll be brain dead 😂
Having just finished season 12, I can say this video has aged like a fine wine. I look forward to tasting the sequel vintage
I think it's potentially worth noting that Moffat wrote easily some of the show's best episodes, but had no idea how to handle showrunning. So maybe this guy can't write his own episodes but will be able to give good general ideas and manage others.
Yeah this guy seems like he can do character development ok, if nothing else
yeah moffat was good with one-off episodes (like blink and the empty child) but he cant handle a constant output of notable quality
It actually IS löike this. Moffat can write single Episodes...but NOT a Hole Serie. The other Guy can writhe a hole Serie but NOT a Single Episode...especly when he has to work with Dinosaurs on a Spaceship.
It's also worth noting that Moffat ran Sherlock, which I think is great. Maybe he just couldn't handle the output demands?
Sherlock was good until series 3 and 4 aired, which were noticeably weaker that the first 2 series. in my mind that just shows how Moffat is good in small doses, but bad as a showrunner. Maybe Chibnall will turn out to be the exact opposite of Moffat haha
The screaming about kindles cracked me up you’ve gained a new subscriber
Little did they know that lizard people crawling out of the earth wouldn't be the weirdest thing to happen in 2020...
3:48 The year is 2020 and I still don’t own Kindle.
Me neither.
it's about 2 get chibby in this hibby
Did Chris Chibnall really write Broadchurch?
Or is he Gilderoy Lockhart in real life?
The Chibnal series of Doctor Who is just plain terrible. The wealthy industrialist villain of the 4th episode was an idiotic caricature of Donald Trump and was just terribly written. Each episode so far felt like a chore just to watch it. I don't see any of the characters growing like previous companions and Bradley Walsh's characters seems like it was written just to be inept. I hope they get a new showrunner very soon because if things don't get better I wouldn't be surprised if Doctor Who got cancelled.
@@provisionalhypothesis Wow, you sound like a complete douchebag. No wonder this abomination of a _Doctor Who_ series appealed to you.
@@icemachine79 did his comment offend you? Maybe you should put it in your blog and get your buddies to harass him until you feel better.
@@DriscolDevil Did it offend me? Nope. But maybe you should tell all your Twitter followers that I "harassed" him and get me fired from my job. Isn't that what people like you do to feel better?
@@icemachine79 So to clarify, your response is "I do not do that thing, YOU DOOOO!"
Wow, that is hardcore. Hey, everyone, don't get on this guy's bad side, he is fucking brutal. He is the master of roasting fools online.
@@DriscolDevil Nope, wrong again. But I'm not surprised you failed to recognize how incredibly hypocritical it is to call people "haters" while spewing random insults at anyone who disagrees with your opinion. That's a trait you share with Twitter mobs, hence the comparison.
Here from 2020, yo. This video has only aged even better. Cuck Chibnall is the worst thing that could have happened to the series.
this video after series 12 has aged like a fine wine i love it
NO CHIBNALL. BAD CHIBNALL. GO TO YOUR ROOM.
Well he's coming out tomorrow
This aged really well sadly. lol
Apart from the bit about 2020 having kindles
This video just came up in my feed....has to be one of the best aged videos I've seen...Chibs the ha k has actually surpassed our worst expectations...RIP Doctor Who.
The Power of Three is an interesting one. Apparently the script was solid throughout with an ending that worked fine, but the production was a nightmare. The actor who played Cube Guy just refused to co-operate with the production team which meant the episode had to be hastily improvised and reworked, then "saved" in the edit. Hence, we were left with that ending. Ultimately, the flaws of this episode weren't down to Chibnall- at least when it came to the pacing of the last fifteen minutes.
I'd be really interested to find out more about the production. Do you have any recommendations for where I could find out more about the episode?
I come from the future, and you were 100% right.
Doctor Who is dead.
Chibnall should be removed as show-runner/writer. I came to that conclusion part way through the first new Doctor episode.
The other writers should be able to vote him out and install their own showrunner. Right now it isn't democratic enough. The last person who was showrunner picks the next one and he has absolutely no way to be removed unless he wants to resign himself.
well, broadchurch was pretty good, lets give him a chance. I would say "he can't be worse than Moffat, can he?" but i don't wanna tempt fate.
inb4 the series arc is a countdown
Mark Gatiss as a showrunner would be worse
I've just got round to watching the first episode of Broadchurch. It wasn't good.
@The Stuff... yes, first episode is not good at all. Irritatingly unnatural. He doesn't know how to do a proper set up. But Broadchurch does get better as it moves on. This could be a problem, since with so many different stories to tell over a season, he'll have to set up characters and plot many times and that's where he really lacks as a writer.
I did get around to watching the rest of Broadchurch too. It remained not good.
The Stuff... Well, now you know for sure.
This video needs a follow up once Series 11 finishes. There’s so much to dig into I believe
This aged like wine.
Personally was hoping for Toby Whithouse as the new Showrunner, his episodes have ranged from Average to Excellent, probably the most consistently decent writer on the show.
Thats why he should stay a writer.
Tario True. Moffat was also consistent.... with excellent. Also a showrunner doesn't need to be a head writer.
moffat was a shit showrunner that insisted on having convoluted and awful foreshadowing to future episodes that made no sense existing in some episodes, like the whole river song bullshit that should have not gone on as nearly as long as it did or the whole amy having flash forward to the woman in the hatch in the wall and i dont know it just fucking sucks i hate moffat
"...insisted on having convoluted and awful foreshadowing to future episodes..."
You mean "Bad Wolf," "Torchwood," "YANA," and the "Four Knocks"? Because when I hear people talk about awful foreshadowing, that's all that really comes to mind for me.
these ones werent bad...
Ironic you forgot about Rory from the Silurian Two parter.
who
That's a Moffat script that bit?
Chibnall: Don't challenge me, fans, because I'm a completely new showrunner. I could bring down your "Doctor Who" with a single word.
Fans: You're the worst writer and showrunner we've ever met, but we don't think you're quite capable of that.
Chibnall: No, you're right. Not a single word, just six.
Fans: We don't think so.
Chibnall: Six words.
Fans: Stop it!
Chibnall: Six.
Chibnall goes over to BBC and shows this:
Chibnal: The Doctor is the timeless child!
Fans: What did he say?
BBC: Oh, well, nothing, really.
Fans: What did he say?
BBC: Nothing. I don't know.
Fans: Chibnall, Chibnall, what did you? What was that? What did he do? What did you say, Chibnall? Chibnall! You stupid...
Oh god. This was brilliant. XD
painfully accurate
Underrated comment.
I remember how after that last season I had given up on the show. But I was told that I'd love timeless child, so I gave it one last shot. Afterwards, I told them that they were without any competition the two worst episodes i had ever seen, and had permanently ruined doctor who for me.
Better writing then anything Chibnall has come up with and it's a rip off from the RTD era
Best aged video ever.
Wow, I had no idea this guy was responsible for those horrible episodes but each one you mentioned I distinctly remembered ... not because they were good but because it was seared into my brain how terrible they were. I mean, poor 11 had a lot of bad episodes so those didn't stand out as much but that fucking episode with 10 was so stupid!!!! Ugh, why is this guy head writer!?!?
The cube episode's third act hurt me.
I had genuinely forgotten how appalling Chibnall's Who episodes were until I watched this. Then all the pain, misery and, er, boredom came flooding back! And, as far as I can tell (I didn't watch it), Broadchurch series 2 was terrible. And even if it was all good, it has Sweet F.A. to do with Doctor Who. You may as well make the producer of Midsomer Murders the new showrunner. Anyway, Doctor Who is dead. R.I.P. .
Desperation....
Tbh, I always skipped these episodes because of how terrible they were, but now knowing that he is headwriter im scared that he will screw up the whole show.
He will.
No mention of his work on Torchwood? "We woke up and a dog was pissing on our tent".
Don't forgot the cyber women who looks like a sex robot
Emily Copper and they squirt barbecue sauce on her and she punches a dinosaur.
He wrote some of the worst Torchwood episodes as well. Like Day One and Countrycide. Jesus...
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer oh yeah the Sex Gas and cannibals where they all split up and get ambushed rather than you know strength in numbers. Seriously early torchwood was like an edge Lord high schoolers fan fiction
Countrycide doesn't even make sense. At the start, they can move really quickly. But later they show they are just Humans. No alien interference. If this was the case, how did they move like that?
When you five minutes into doctor and chill and he says “burn with me”
Chibnall has been a fan of doctor who his whole life? That is a lie. If he was really a fan he would have made something a million times better than this.
Honestly in my opinion Doctor Who has been getting worse and worse since Tenant left. It’s not the actors, it’s the writers.
Acrimonious Mirth I agree
I really felt that exhilaration of being an adventuring time traveler with Tenant and I felt a lot less gloom in his episodes. Maybe in the distant future, we will get that feeling again?
I was a big fan of Matt Smith, not all his episodes were good (then again, Tenant had some really shit episodes) and I found Matt's doctor to be the most interesting out of the modern iterations.
An unfortunate truth :(
Davies was a great writer, moffat doesn't get anywhere near Davies and Chippendale is a step too low even for moffat. You want female doctor to succeed, bring Russell T Davies to do her first season. He made nine, ten and influenced 11.
This made my day, this is brilliant! The humour is amazing
Looking back from 2019, you were sooo right. Thank you veeeery much.
"Just because something looks interesting, that doesn't mean it's actually interesting" - pretty much nailed everything wrong with Chiball's era.
RTD - Great Characters
Moff - Great Plot
Chibs - Good Cinematographer
not really, i'd take any heaven sent's scene instead of chibnal's cinematography
@@BarioIDL oh I didn't mean to imply that good cinematography in any way makes up for lack of decent plot or characters.
It's an unfortunate trend in a lot of modern sci-fi, in many ways the genre is a victim of its own success. A franchise grows a large dedicated fanbase, the show is then seen as a commodity by tv and film studios that don't understand the idiosyncrasies that developed that fanbase to begin with, then produces some lowest common denominator product with an enormous vfx budget but no real story.
@@riddersjc pretty sure they can pay a good writer with that money
@@BarioIDL they could indeed.
This was the first argument against the new series that was intelligible. Every other one is something against feminism or something against a female doctor or blah blah blah. But you made some extremely good points in this video. While I like the cube episode aside from the ending I often skip the other three episodes that you mentioned. I had no idea they were connected by Chris chibnall. Now that I know that I definitely feel a little wary of these new episodes. Thanks for the insight.
I get what you are saying, and it is very easy to fall into a trap that a female Doctor is bad because its a her, but there are good reasons why introducing a female doctor makes me, and other uneasy. The doctor has always been a guy, and in a show where everything changes that was a nice constant, but maybe thats just the autist in me.
Secondly the character of the doctor has masculine characteristics but not in the alpha lumberjack body builder kind of way, more in the Clarkson era top gear kind of way. Through this he became a role model for men who wanted to be smart and weird, now its a girl its kinda sad to lose yet another one, the BBC has lost a fair few.
Thirdly there are some vague references to the doctor having 2 parents, that they were different genders and that time lords were actually very similar physiologically to humans despite an increased IQ and an extra heart. The regenerative powers were actually a side effect of experimenting with time travel. This let us relate to him despite him being very alien. Now he's gender fluid across lifetimes and has more than thirteen lives, something that pisses me off more.
Finally the conclusive point is that the Doctor was supposed to die, they set him up as being a finite creature that can live for thirteen lifetimes (around 1000 years), but they couldn't let him die so now they are going to find new ways to milk him for everything he's worth and that's not actually progressive. When they get bored of female doctors, the next one will be hermaphroditic, then it will be whatever minority is edgy enough to keep the show alive. The doctor will slowly become a messy pathwork of identities, until the original content no longer makes sense. Another 50 years of this to go...
@@coolpeopleit you do know timelords have always been able to regenerate into females too? like the master into missy?
Hey Erick :)
Yes I am the most entitled brat you have come across, because I called hermaphrodites a minority, I didn't specify women were, I'm not retarded! I complained about declining representation of positive masculine figures in the BBC, your response is to criticize my complaints about representation, then complain about representation... pick one of those arguments carefully. Yeah there are a lot of guys in media, not all of them are positive masculine role models, there are increasing amounts of feminine role models, good for them I hope that continues. I would also like to keep some of my role models please, you can always make more characters, like River Song. I liked River Song, she wasn't the Doctor, she added a lot to his world and his character. My main point is that they aren't really doing this for the representation of minorities at all, so they will advertise the fuck out of it without actually coming up with a more clever character like Song. Doctor Who has had a ton of essential strong female characters recently, every companion has been fiercely independent and strong willed. You don't need to give the Doctor a sex change to better represent women, they are already 50% of the two main characters!
Thanks for your comment Erik, always a pleasure
Scarly
'Always' ? Missy is series 7, Late Matt Smith Era, part of this video is about how that writer wasn't as effective. I don't really count that as always, unless you have a better example, please don't count the comic relief Doctor Who by Rowan Atkinson as one that was oddly appropriate satire!
Sorry you don't get a separate comment, all the Best
@@coolpeopleit yeah but your comment was about how having a female doctor is bad? so ok
No my comment was on how losing a male role model for weak narrative reasons and a need to rekindle interest in a dying show was a poor decision, and doesn't improve the representation of women in media. You need well written characters to do that.
I think the problem with judging Chris Chibnall purely on his 'Doctor Who' episodes is that we don't know how much of the writing was him and how much of it was Russell T Davies and Steven Moffat stepping in. Most of the episodes he wrote for the show were ideas given to him by the showrunner, in which he had to follow a set of guidelines. Even though the first two 'Torchwood' episodes he wrote, 'Day One' and 'Cyberwoman' are pretty dreadful, they were written at a time when the producers hadn't really figured out what the show was yet. And every other episode of Torchwood he wrote after those is pretty great in my opinion, 'Countrycide', 'End of Days', 'Kiss Kiss Bang Bang', 'Adrift', 'Fragments' and 'Exit Wounds'. Plus, 'Broadchurch' shows his greatest strength I think, which is characterisation. He's pretty good at creating fairly compelling characters and structuring an overall story. If anything, I trust him more as a SHOWRUNNER than I should have done with Steven Moffat. Moffat is a great ideas man , whereas I feel Chibnall will be better at overseeing the series, rather than coming up with cool sci-fi ideas which try to impress you by being "clever" rather than consistent. Plus, he's using a writer's room for his era which I think is a good idea for 'Doctor Who' in the 21st century, as he can use the strengths of other writers to create a more concise and coherent show. I honestly think he's a pretty good choice really, but each to their own. At the end of the day, we'll just have to wait and see.
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Yes but, his name is still on the screen!
+The Confession Dial Both RTD and Moffat have written brilliant, exciting episodes. Many times over, in fact. Even on their worst days, their scripts have never fallen to the level of Chibnall's work for DW. IOW, it's incredibly unlikely that either writer took a great Chibnall script and turned into something inferior.
Poor Finian But, They were good enough for both Producers to make. Fault lies with both Producers. And RTD and Moffat wrote some stinkers!
Yeah but that's how most episodes are written. Very few episode are wholly the idea of the writers and separate from the show-runner, otherwise it'd be hard to plan ahead for the budget of sets and costuming. So why do other writers have greater track records?
I’m so sorry that I didn’t believe you.
The 3 commercial breaks in this video was for the new Dr Who season.
Yeah. Doctor Who isn't going down hill because of a female doctor. Female Doctor I can live with. Chris Chibnall taking charge? It's going down hill
I might not agree with all your points but Jesus you're a funny man
Spot fucking on.
"The women who fell to earth" and "the ghost monument" were awful. Bland story, dumb villains and poor character development. And what was with the Doctor giving up at the end of ep 2? The doctor doesn't give up!
"Rosa" was an improvement, but that song at the end made me cringe. Overall, it just doesn't feel like Doctor Who. Jodie is a great actress, but she just doesn't come across as the Doctor.
Let's be honest. The 12th doctor would have had a field day in 1950's southern America. Insults and ass kicking would have been prevalent.
I don’t think “Rosa” was an improvement at all. The main threat was literally a space racist and it felt more like a history lesson, not a doctor who episode
Rosa was an improvement because it was the first episode this series not to be written by Chibnall.
It's great to hear from someone who is right
Whittakers 13th has potential to be good, but her delivery is shit and the script is littered with a leftist agenda
"Poor character development"?! Did we WATCH the same show? They made me care about the characters I'd known for a grand total of 30 seconds, and made it clear that I should be worried about who would live and die by the end of the first episode. I don't know where you're coming from with "poor character development," but I'd love to hear your justification.
@@theillusionist1494 The characters don't really have strong motivations for their actions and their lines really haven't given much insight into who they are. With Rose we knew who she was within 2 episodes. Caring, Has a boyfriend and mom, working class but dreams of adventure. Martha was pretty well fleshed out on her first episode. Smart, hardworking Medical student who has a crush on the doctor. Weird family life with bickering parents etc. We knew everything we needed about Donna and Jack in the first five minutes so I'm not going to go into it. Amy was shown in her first episode as the first person the 11th doctor met who helped him to adjust to his new body, is engaged, brave, and doesn't take crap from anyone.
I still don't really know anything about these new companions. I know Yaz is a cop, but her high intelligence wasn't shown until ep 3. Ryan is extremely monotone and even the death of his grandma didn't seem to affect him that much. I like his step grandfather(can't remember his name). He was written well. We know about his background, how he and Ryan's grandmother met, and that he's extremely loving and protective. Hopefully they will be more fleshed out. New showrunners and actors take time to adjust.
Any way to bring Russel T. Davis back? Please!
Of please fuck No!
Let the grunge era Doctor stay dead
@@Kuypers125 he was Chibnall before Chibnall was Chibnall.
@@HOTD108_ Series 9-10?
You mean the 9th and 10th Doctors?
I've loved all the NewWho Doctors during their time as the 'current' Doctor
And when I want to revisit them
That is what Netflix and cindication is for
I've been baying for Moffat's blood ever since Day of the Doctor, but I'd gladly have him back now tbh.
Russel T Davies wasn't the best, but I'll take him over Chibnall any day.
They just don't understand what makes a good show.
Character development. People are much more likely to forgive a weaker plot, if it has good character development. That's why the first two new Doctors were so good. Eccleston was bitter and angry about the time war, but slowly began to overcome those feelings with the help of Rose. When Tennant took over, he was over the time war, and fell for Rose, and she did him. They were ripped apart and that threw the doctor back a few steps.
Now the doctor is a gazillion years old and doesn't care about anything other than Earth, because reasons.
Will Jenks moffat for you
What is wrong with you? Moffat had far more character development than RTD. RTD's characters were almost always the same, with an exception of Mickey and Donna. 9th Doctor was bitter and angry about the time war, he didn't overcome those feeling with the help of Rose. He was very bitter about Time War until the finale. There's not a single scene that proves your theory, if not The Doctor showed his anger about the Time War in the 2nd part of the series even more, in episodes like Dalek and the finale.
Also "and doesn't care about anything other than Earth" obviously shows that you stopped watching the show and don't know what happens. I mean, World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls, Oxygen, Empress of Mars. It's just that the series was more Earth bound, just like series 1 was!!
MajorCvikljee so.. many... exclamation.. marks.. just step back.
Primo Zerajo there's two... two... only two
Not a single scene to support his theory? How about the guilt ridden, self hating doctor ending his tenure with the words "You were fantastic, absolutely fantastic... and you know what? So was I" This is literally explicitly stating his development! He's come to accept himself as a good person again due to Rose's help.
I'm not a huge fan of the RTD era, but in terms of consistent character development he was a billion times better than "Change this characters motivations every episode for a funny joke or stunning twist" Moffat.
2 years later....
you were right. Chibnall was a disaster!.
Chris’ son is my friend at school lmaoo
Try and talk some sense into his hack fraud father. Make him realise the damage he's done to the show
On the upside he wrote some awesome Torchwood episodes- Countrycide, Adrift, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Fragments and Exit Wounds!
tbh none of those I thought were bad (at least to my memory). I'm hoping that he goes for a more serious tone for his run.
*looks at cyberwoman*
Really?
Chaz Hinkley yeah I purposely didn't mention Cyberwoman or Day One lol they weren't so great
cyberwoman is especially worrying considering the guy who thought that costume was okay is going to be writing for a female doctor.
Chaz Hinkley I'm pretty sure Whittaker will decide her outfit. Though, I wonder what they were thinking when they gave Lisa a steel bra. Did it occur to them that Cybermen wouldn't prioritise breastal support?
Episode in which Rory dies: "All the characters end up exactly the same at the end as they were in the beginning."
Um...what?
Potatro tatro No, the two scientist characters in that episode had their lives changed forever.
who's Rory? I just remember the doctor looking at a crack at the end of the episode and pulling out a piece of the tardis.
seriously though, I'm pretty sure that bit was written by Moffat.
+rocketcon Plus a mother has to live with the fact that she killed someone and there's set up for a potential sequel story (set in 1000 years time)
thats moffat who brought him back. not chibnall
I'm absolutely sure Rory's death was phoned in by Moffat and had no place at all on Chibnall's original script.
omg i just realised these are most of the episodes that i skip when rewatching the show
Same
I think the title should be "NitPix has a Mental Breakdown"
Well shit.
I was really looking forward to Moffat's exit.
Don't get me wrong, the Moff has written some excellent Who (Blink, anyone?), but his approach as SR has turned the Doc into a dull Mary Sue. I was hoping for an improvement on that front. Guess that's too much to hope for.
If only Mark Gatiss became showrunner. That would've been the safest bet.
Stillborn Rock I found Gatiss to be a worse writer than Chibnall.
rocketcon Well that's unheard of. Usually Gatiss is a bit more praised than that. Personally I quite liked his Doctor Who work.
+Stillborn Rock
Eh, I didn't really like any of his episodes. The Unquiet Dead, Night Terrors, Cold War, The Crimson Horror, and the Empress of Mars I found to be quite forgettable, and The Idiot's Lantern and Sleep No More were just stupid. I like Victory of the Daleks and Robot of Sherwood better than most, though. I would have preferred him over Chibnall at the least, but he's no RTD or Moffat.
Blink is awful
In my opinion you can't judge a showrunner by the things they wrote under other showrunners. By that logic Steven Moffat would be a great showrunner and we all know how that went don't we?
Theodor George Stevan Moffat didn’t write those episodes. Russell T. Davis did.
Wan Haqeem Well Broadchurch. We have a very good example of him running a show well. Granted, coupling was apparently pretty good so. I’m doing my best to go into the new series with healthy skepticism. I’m being cautious but I’m not gonna write off a series that isn’t out yet.
I still love Moffat. Not for season 7 or 8 really. But for the Matt Smith era.
Shoot, you're right I completely forgot about Torchwood he wrote some good episodes for it and he also wrote the Pond Life short which was very fun.
Moff can still write great ep he's just shite at long arcs. Chibnall is just shite
“Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that episode,” I say to myself every episode.
Is 42 the one where the bad guy is like “BURN WITH ME?”
Yep
Oh God...why did I watch this? Why did I have to smash the little hope I had...
Well chibnall has done some amazing stuff in torchwood and broad church. Hes a really good writer sometimes
+attckonutube Every episode he wrote on torchwood were shit, worse then dr who.
Ah, how right you were.
Also turned out JW would just be a hyperactive tennant/smith imposter.
I still come back to this every now and then and nod at how prophetic it was. Let's hope RTD can salvage this. Again.
So far I'm not impressed with this chibnall guy.
D Jay Adrmu you mean chitball?
No, Chinballs. (how many ways can we cannibalize his name?)
Piss Libnall? Idk, i aren't very good at these things.
how about now ?
You were right.
Chibnall has destroyed Dr.Who
It's so fun looking back on this. I thoroughly enjoyed it and agreed with it when it was first uploaded, and shared it around. I now think back on it every time I see a comment about doctor who and chibnall's time as showrunner. Thankfully their era will end soon and hopefully I can return to being excited about the show once more
This video, pretty much sums up doctor who as it is today 😥
Darn, you were so right dude
5 years later, this video has proven correct.
11:58 darth vader didn't die it seems, he just became cube man.
Okay, I finally have to admit that you were right.
Oh so this is why I had a weird feeling all throughout those episodes. They really where somewhat of an acid trip.
No wonder I dislike the New series of Doctor who. Jodie' s talent is being wasted. I also dislike those episodes you mentioned in this video. I wish we could have a good writer to replace him.
I mean the Rosa Park episode, what was that guys motive for going back in that point in time to that point and why was he sent to prison. It was basically guy who came put of prison goes back in time to change it for shits and giggles I guess.
Joy Time Yeah, but since it was co-written by another writer, it wasn't as boring as the other Chibnall episodes. And Demons in the Punjab wasn't written by Chibnall at all, and it was the best episode of series 11 so far. I'm looking forward to episodes that aren't written by the fucking head writer. How ridiculous is that??
Today's episode stood out as it wasn't written by him.
@@edadankmemes I agree, it is the best episode so far, very rich in story and it is written very well. There were no holes in the story, We even got a brief story of What happened to the Stenza and why they are no longer assassins. Which is more than the other episodes.
For me, Rosa and Demons in the Punjab represent throw-backs to the original intent of the show, as a way to explore history. In Rosa it appears that they took great pains to be very faithful to the historic events, and even the dialogue, and I found the episode very moving. The relative weakness of the villain was irrelevant. These were two of the most memorable episodes of the series, IMHO. I don't have a big problem with Whitaker's Doctor (although I hope she shows some growth), but by and large, the current writing is weak. (and WAY too much reliance on the sonic!)