New electric fire truck rolls to a structure fire in Las Vegas 🔥 🚒
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2023
- The new Rosenbauer RTX Electric Fire Truck with Clark County Fire Department turns out with several other units to a Structure Fire on Leigh Avenue in Las Vegas. Also shown are other units at Fire Station 18.
Engine 18 has recently acquired a Rosenbauer RTX Electric Fire Truck for trial and demonstration purposes, which was in service during the Formula 1 race on the Las Vegas Strip. It has remained in service after the event responding to other emergencies, such as this structure fire.
At 15:48 on Saturday, November 25th, the Clark County Fire Department responded to a reported structure fire in the 2000 block of Leigh Avenue in the Paradise City area of the Las Vegas Valley. Units arrived on the scene to find a fire involving a small structure and a tennis court in the back of a residential home. Water was delivered to the fire and quickly knocked down.
Units due: AR14, B2, B6, E14, E17, E18, E19, E25, E29, R19, R25, T17, T18
Recorded: November 25th, 2023 - Авто та транспорт
You can’t call it engine anymore,it’s battery 18!👍🏻😁😂
So does Generator 18 roll out with RSU?
@markdickinson-pd4ip It's got a clockwork motor for back up.
Or, Electric 18 🤭😉
Wow, a fire truck that doesn't look like it's from the 90's :D
Similar to europeans emergency trucks
You clearly haven’t been to enough rich suburbs
@@samsirianni7198 you're right. I come from a country where everyone has these more modern looking trucks.
The one the LAFD had was a bit odd-looking. The color scheme Clark County is rocking makes it look amazing
Yellow is a higher visibility color then red, particularly at night in the rain.
@@549BR Did you see the ones they use in Berlin Germany? They are white as base with bright red on top. Pretty good visibility too.
@@JackMacLupus The Berlin trucks with this livery end up with a disrupted form. In poor light or complex scenes they can become less visible (even camouflaged) because the two color areas become visually dissociated. A single high conspicuity color for the whole vehicle with single colour retro-reflective outlining bands and mid band is simply the best model for maximum visibility, along with synchronized and bi-laterally symmetrical warning light patterns.
Is it me or did that engine look like it was leaning to the left? Can't wait too see what the repair cost will be for this engine when things start to go wrong.
Yes, the colour scheme is what matters
Was anyone else thinking how huge that station is?? Great truck!
You're not seeing things.
We need bigger fire hauls. That includes bigger government.
Yeah I was
@@fkb247I don't follow
Yeah, it's pretty massive. It also has administrative offices, so that's why it is as big as it is.
It's definitely a huge station
Pulled over 5 seconds after pulling out😭😂
I could tell there was a problem as soon as E-18 left the station. Leaning too hard to the driver’s side
It’s not a problem, it’s due to the weight of the batteries on the roof. Have experienced the same thing driving electric buses, they lean.
@@ParabolH Well, it was enough of a problem that they had to pull over to fix the problem.
@@ParabolH this is not an electric bus - the batteries are at the bottom
You can totally see the entire truck drop several inches as it begins to move. Then when stopped it awkwardly raises up. Definitely an issue or user error. @@ParabolH
The self level sway suspension wasn't working....that muck of a lean on a truck of that weight is dangerous...but all the pin head liberals think they are saving the planet..
When the air ride suspension doesnt inflate... pull over LOL
Or teach the driver how to
operate it.
At least they won't have to call another firetruck when it catches fire
Water and electricity don't mix.🤔
They'll have to call the army to evacuate the neighborhood from toxic fumes
@@leighwood8340 Smart making an electric fire truck 👍
How long is it out of service to recharge? What happens at a day's long incident? Many questions
@@leighwood8340 if it runs outta battery u can get a 2000 foot long cord and connect it to the charging station duh...
Some of us remember when fire trucks did not look like a box on wheels. I understand functionality, safety, and practicality are the most important things. But, I do miss the old American La France, Macks, and other models that were around growing up in the 70s and 80s.
For a short time, American LaFrance had the best looking fire trucks in this country; trucks most chiefs could only dream about. Unfortunately, their high price and quality control problems, after the bean counters arrived, put them out of business.
To be honest: Over long or short, these 80's looking big old, inefficent and ergonomical nightmare trucks will not make the race and will disappear from American roads.. Deal with it. Cars evolved, planes evolved, trains evolved, and these Trucks still look like from 30 years ago except for the LED bars... you put firefighters in danger and health risk not to change the way of firefighting and design. Look at 1:20, thats worlds in between. And the truck from Pierce is maybe 8-10 years old and still looks like a model from 1988.
@@RoadsFranconia I do not believe anyone disagrees with the importance of fire equipment and vehicle designs keeping up with the times. I said as much in my original post. Functionality, safety, and practicality are the most important factors.
However, it can be argued, compared to fire trucks of generations past, these modern trucks are some of the ugliest vehicles to hit the road.
@@RoadsFranconia To be fair, you can have the new tech but keep the old look, its not that hard. The difference is their trying to differentiate a product and thats why it looks like it was shat out of a 1990's scifi film.
Bring them back!!!!!!
"Sir, we're out of juice" "A fuck, get the generator!"
It has a build in generator
and it runs on gasoline to charge a li batt ! man were SMART !@@jor7137
Same thing happens with gas, but it has an onboard generator and probably charges in station, so it’s almost always ready at full battery
You can't beat the beauty of the diesel trucks.
Depends on what you mean by beauty. Thick black exhaust? EV wins everyday. Cab design? Pierce and E-One have that covered.
Too bad diesel fuel is just heavy, dirty and smelly.
Pierce makes an electric apparatus that looks like a real fire truck, an American fire truck!
@@LakesRegionEmergencyPhoto Beauty is universal. You either have a taste or not. And the answer to all of your questions is obvious.
@@frank-ko6de obviously you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, or/and you just want to be the sock puppet of eco evangelists. i am not here to teach you a lesson, but if you want and ask for it nicely, I may give some to you.
Looked like it was leaning alot to the drivers side
They stopped and adjusted something with the suspension at 2:09
That might be due to where the battery bank is located on the truck.
@@brettminkin1620 surely the company who made that would let it leave the factory like that ?
It seems like something was up with the air suspension, they pulled over and the truck levelled itself. Maybe some manual setting was active?
Amsterdam Fire Brigade had the same. They returned the vehicle to Rosenbauer, not satisfied. The vehicle does have a Diesel Range Extender on the roof. So it is not a fully electric fire truck
interesting... do you have links about this ? to read more about it? thanks
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Berlin FD was so satisfied that they ordered some more of them after their trial phase @@rodrigonicolaudelroure8359
Hybrid.
I'd love to hear from the firefighters who run on them what their likes/dislikes are about the apparatus as a whole.
Especially opinions and thoughts that aren't "Oh its different and new so it's bad" too, yeah
You won't get an honest opinion from any firefighter who has hopes of being promoted. Keep in mind that the woke mayors who forced these things on FD's hold the Fire Chiefs jobs hostage. I guarantee there is plenty of disdain and contempt for these tonka toys but nobody will rock the boat unless they are happy at what ever rank they are at with no hope of advancement. Or just do not want to be the target of calculated harassment and isolation.
I can't say anything about the RTX, but the RT, wich is basically the RTX but not retrofitted for US-Standards was well liked by the Berlin firebrigade. The major dislikes were: The arrangement of the tools in Toolbox 1 (wich could have happend with any other new truck), the fully electric toolbox-locks, wich didn't work sometimes, but i think they switched those back to manuals, and the camera-mirror display arrangement. There were also issues with supplying enough power in the historic firestations to charge the truck, but that may not be an issue in the US.
What they liked was how good the RT is to drive, how good you can see your surroundings from the cabin, the seating arrangements and that the engineer and others don't have to breathe in diesel-exhaust constantly on scene and that the vehicle is much quieter, wich makes communication easier. Oh, and they really loved the air suspension (wich fcked up in this video...), as getting tools in and out was much more ergonomic and easier and thus faster.
As a rural firefighter I can't see they would be practical, the extra weight would mean less water plus some fires can have a 100km round trip plus all day running a pump, I don't know any electric truck that could do that. Might be OK in the city with short distance to the fire and short duration pumping, I'd still want to park it outside to charge though. Also often you can just return to base and get called to another fire. Fires aren't going to wait until you've recharged your truck. In summary , ridiculous idea for an emergency vehicle, what's normally the first thing to go down in a storm, yep the power supply.
@@silverdale3207 These trucks have a diesel engine as backup, yet it was never needed during testing in Berlin over half a year. Also there are no plans to run only e-trucks, especially until charging techniques are developed more. Don't judge it before you tried it.
The Australian Capital Territory fire service took delivery of one of these trucks a couple of months ago & I think 1 or 2 other states are looking at them as well. Also the Aviation authority that looks after airport fire response (Air Services Australia) is getting some hybrid aviation fire trucks from Oshkosh to replace older equipment over the next few years, no doubt the military will look at same as well.
Surely the military isn't that stupid
A lot of places are getting them now, outside of Germany. Not in bulk but rather to trial one and see how it works out. They're very different to regular trucks so they have their pros and cons.
A lot of other agencies are going for more conventional electrical versions, for example, UK agencies have demonstrated the Rosenbauers but are looking more at Emergency One's Volvo pumpers or in the US, Pierce for their electric pumpers. Aside from that, you're also seeing hydrogen, biofuels...etc. You probably will begin to see that sort of thing in militaries, too, probably in more background roles for the time being. I feel as if when the rest of the world changes to other fuel types, the military would likely want to have a few backup options in case things go horribly wrong.
It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. We're definitely at a turning point, whether for good or for bad, or a mix of both. I'll try and film as much as I can.
@@CobraEmergency I found you on threads I'll send a couple of photos & a google search list of the truck plus the new Volvo zero emissions truck used for the breathing apparatus support team & there's a UA-cam screenshot for a 24 minutes video you can search for if interested.
@cliffhigson7581 thank you! I saw the picture of the Volvo, it looks a lot like the ones in the UK.
Airport makes SO much sense for an EV Firetruck....come to think of it, EV ANYTHING makes great sense at an airport
Awesome footage, would love to see more Vegas footage 👀
We're becoming more like Europe every day
Actually Mexico...
It's ridiculous
.... be happy its not from China.... 😂😂😂
globalization
When are they bringing the horse drawn trucks back?
Nice catch of the new rosenbaur
Great catches on your part!
Maybe it’s just me, but the emergency lighting on these electric trucks just doesn’t seem as dynamic as the “normal” ones. I noticed that with the Los Angeles electric truck as well.
They don't seem to use lightbars period. On that one Ford brush-truck they have a rectangular box with flush mount lights on it.
To be fair the overall lighting even on the ladder wasn't that attention grabbing outside of the bucket lights
I wonder if the electric trucks have to scale back on the emergency lighting because even LED lamps can be power-hungry and available stored energy will be prioritised for traction, pumping etc.
@@nakedenby LED lights are anything but power hungry.
@@snowshoe3274 That's context dependent. For sure, Lux for lux LED lamps are far more economical than incandescent but you have to consider a lightbar alone can contain many dozens of directional LED modules, each one containing 4 or more high power diodes. Then there are repeater LED heads in the rear window, and some in the rear lamp clusters. There are repeaters in the front screen, on the grille, on the front wings and quite often now on the sides of the registration plate for when emerging from junctions. Many fleets have taken to adding low level side repeaters on the sills too. It's not uncommon for a car to employ over a hundred LED modules, each with multiple LED chips. Add all these up and you can be looking at 25 - 30 Amps current draw average (allowing for flash cycles). The potential saving in energy over legacy incandescents has been largely offset by the newfound ability to cover a car with compact lightheads, thus cancelling out the energy efficiency of LEDs. It's pretty much returned to the days of never turning your engine off if you keep the emergency lights on at a scene, or you'll end up needing to be jump started.
Does the pump run on the same batteries? I'm surprised they're able to make this viable. Running Lights, Computers, Radio, and the water pump. That's gotta be a massive energy use.
They all run on batteries but have a diesel generator that can kick in if they fall below a minimum, such as at prolonged pumping operations.
@@CobraEmergency Maybe amend the video "title" to say electric/diesel hybrid instead?
@@mLyonJE he said that it's a generator if needed, not an engine. So, it's technically a full EV bc it uses electricity to drive, but if the power gets below a certain point, it will activate the generator. Ex. It leaves the and returns to station using EV, and they also use EV to control the pump, but while doing so they get below the minimum. They activate the generator to finish pumping, and drive back with EV
@@JadedFett1138 Isn't that how a hybrid works too? I mean, there's not a drivetrain from the internal combustion engine to the wheels, in an electric/fossil hybrid, surely??
@@mLyonJE Didnt think of that. Shouldve kept my mouth shut
In all the cases that we see the truck ready to depart from the fire station, never was plugged in to the wall charger or something 😮
Love the Pierce "Quantum" pneumatic step action @ 3:42, a nice roomy cab on those!
Great catches! The new Rosenbaur is very neat! Gotta love battalion 2s rumbler siren!
yo critical911 i watched your videos before kinda cool to see you here
@@TheForcefieldUA-cam Thanks! Yeah I’ve been watching Cobras video since I started filming!
@@Critical911 nice i've always had an intrest in emergency vehicles. i mainly watch cobra and dragon emergency videos but i've watched videos like yours and cobra's north america channel before *im just not subbed*
Rosenbauer is pioneer in electric firetruck manufacture
Nah. Pierce and E-One did it better.
They are still learning to make quality ICE equipment. Won't be anytime soon.
@@LakesRegionEmergencyPhoto how so?
Do they burn just like other evs?
@@Design_no Yes….but they can put themselves out.
Just saw that truck in person looks good i was impressed now lets see how long they last
😂😂😂
There are some rural fire depts using 30-40 year old trucks. That EV trash on wheels can't last 10-years without seriously degrading the range/batt capacity all while being HUGE fire hazard itself.
@@IPGAuto agreed looks cool regardless
@@IPGAuto EV's last longer that combustion and they are not a huge fire hazard. The battery is lithium iron phosphate, less prone to fire and no runaway. You're clueIess to the subject.
@@PyroShields - Everything you just stated is absolutely opposite. Me clueless? You’re ridiculous. There are Ford Model T and classics from 60s still on the road. Lithium degrades. You’re clueless
That squad truck has an interesting light setup
It really should have had a cab mounted light bar with just the front and corners populated. It would be much better in intersections and have take downs and alley lights. The ambulance has a nice lighting package.
Here in Berlin, GE, we have one of these as well. The electric capacity is far big enough to bring the machine through a normal day. And the advantage is clear: No pollution, you can work for hours beside the truck without standing in the exhaust fumes and sound.
Where the hell do you think they get the electricity to charge the truck?? How much earth did they have to mine with diesel equipment to get the heavy metals to build the battery??? They're not "green" at all.
@@ffjsb 100 years of oil production cannot be surpassed in terms of pollution by the few years until hydrogen is ready for series production. Or do you think an Exxon Valdez, a "deepwater horizon" or the “oil rig 23051” disaster and many, many others were a blessing for the environment?
And by the way: Anyone who has stood next to a pump vehicle and its exhaust all their life to save people, knows how to appreciate the cleanliness.
And to answer the question of “where from”: from wind turbines and extensive solar panels. We only use a fraction of our surfaces for solar production. In any case, there is no layer of solar film stuck to your house, to the walls around you...
@@drau331 Solar panels and wind turbines are NOT green. They take about as much fossil fuels to make and maintain as they save. And you'd still have to have massive battery banks to store energy for when you need it. You clearly don't know oil leaches out in places naturally too. The US has cut it's carbon footprint 50% since the 90's, so you can go cry with Greta Thunberg if want, it's not going to change the facts of the matter.
So, who do you call when these catch fire 😮
My thinking, what irony🙃
The real fire trucks
These don't catch fire. They have lithium iron phosphate batteries. Less prone to fire.
How much electrical power does this machine use when it's pumping, along with all the other electrical gear?
It also includes a power generator to prevent empty batteries - just in case.
Yes, and before people go "Omg why go electric then" It is still FAR more fuel efficient than a internal combustion truck @@WookieMR
@@WookieMR Thats good to know. Thanks
Awesome video!!
That looks beautiful and proper! Congrats LVFD!
LVFD? CCFD!
I love how it looks. Reminds me of that 60"s kid show The Thunderbirds.
Is it the angle or are those trucks running with amber lights?
Little paramedic squad looks like a tow truck with all the yellow lights on it.
@7:12 nice nighttime footage, looks cool
Nice looking apparatus, Still a fan of the Diesel engine, the Electric Truck is something that's gonna take a lot to get used to. Looks very cool.
St Paul has 1 due in 2024,and I only wish it was yellow,red is plain,yellow/ blue looks nice
When electric firetruck catches fire u can get used to it by jogging a few miles away from it and the toxic fumes
Looks cool wait until you see the fireball it's produces when it catches on fire
Please tell i ain't the only one who miss the old originals
The American LaFrance series 700, 800 and 900 were beautiful works of art, besides being superior fire trucks.
Unpopular opinion but the Maxim F series and low profile models were stunning. Also the Mack MR/ MC in rescue form is a true classic. And who could forget the LaFrance P80 Ambassador series, all of them were iconic. I love the new innovations and I can't argue they are better in some ways but they will NEVER look as good as classic American fire apparatus.
I don't even understand my replays lol
Great catch!
Great video. Thanks.
Meh, it has leveling issues already 1:29
Exactly...the meh control arm is not calibrated. Good call.
LA has a near identical unit….wondering why it was leaning so far to the left? Seemed a little off…🤔
And very low to the ground. Air suspension not inflated? Water tank mounted to one side?
Notice they had to pull over once out of the station to "level" it out, it's my understanding there are several suspension levels it can be set at. I'm NOT a fan of EV apparatus.
I can see an electric ambulance or squad or rescue in an urban setting, as they just drive to calls. But an engine would need to be able to pump water potentially over a long period of time…doesn’t compute…😵💫
@@UncleFred100 the truck has a diesel engine that kicks in if the battery gets too low. In Berlin they never had to utilize the backup engine.
The left side carries all the debt from the cost of buying an EV firetruck. That's why it leans to the left.
Got damn, Clark County got that money, it seems. Awesome video, my friend.
That electric engine looks like a mini city bus. Wonder how long it is until somebody posts a video of one of those things burning to the ground.
Never saw that paramedic Squad 18 before. What's the reason they use that kind of over cab quasi lightbar. That is different. Nice rig though.
Those squads have been in service for quite a few years now. That station used to have two rescues (ALS ambulances), but they switched one to that squad unit. I'm not sure why they don’t just have a more traditional looking light bar.
Looks more like a construction or utility truck lol
Slapping some lightheads on sheet metal is significantly cheaper than the lightbars. Must be a cost cutting measure
From what I have heard, a diesel generator is still required to run the pumps, ladders and other accessories.
inform yourself. They don't need the diesel generator to run the pumps. The diesel backup only kicks in once the battery is down to 20%. Until then they can drive the truck and operate the pumps and all other equipment on battery alone.
@EnjoyFirefighting so they do still need a generator? Irony at it's finest😅
@@hamaarahof5712 you call irony that they kept in mind the unlikely but possible event of long lasting calls?
It can easily work shift after shift after shift running on battery alone in a normal setting ...
The other way around it's just stupid, running on diesel on 100% of the calls, pushing a cold diesel to its limits within a very short time etc
@@EnjoyFirefighting don't open your eyes, keep dreaming
@@hamaarahof5712 it works in reality. Take a guess why departments did a long trial phase at some of their busiest stations, which run 15,000 to 23,000 calls a year. It worked for them way better than they would have ever expected.
Did YOU gain some actual experience or are you just talking bs?
looks insane nice :D
That truck is almost scraping the road.
Must be very heavy.
it has air ride suspension
Nice Electric Engine 18!
It's a hybrid truck since it has a back up diesel engine for when the batteries poop out.
Curious as to what’s the plan when that rig is on a 4-5 alarm call out for most of the day with pumps running. Do they bring out a gas powered generator to charge it?
It has a diesel engine for when the batteries inevitably die pumping water at a fire
@@kevincorbi6940 Also the diesel engine will inevitably die when out of fuel - you're missing the point slightly... It's not that batteries are shortlived and shit whilst diesel magically lasts forever; it's about energy density, so what you can carry, bring along to refill depleted reserves, etc., is just "more energy per cubic metre or per tonne" with chemical fuel like gasoline/diesel, than it is with currently emerging battery tech. - we'll see how it plays out in future, of course.
@@mLyonJE Difference is we can refuel at a fire after a full day of running, not so with electric
@@silverdale3207 You need to learn a little more about emerging electric tech. Notwithstanding any of the huge infrastructure you take for granted that masks fossil having its own challenges... All of which ignores how embryonic the EV world is. Dismissing it places you on the conveyor belt to being discarded. Fine: choose your future pathway; it's a free world.
@@mLyonJE trouble is my statement is true, after 2 hours you're using a diesel vehicle, you can't recharge from renewables in the middle of nowhere, most of the big fires are long duration vegetation fires so probably 80 percent plus running on diesel, and considering most fire trucks do very low mileage, the economics wouldn't stack up for a tiny fuel saving.
E-18 looks like a great truck. 😂
Compared to what; a septic sucking truck?
Looks Nuggety, awesome piece of equipment
Are they moving away from red and blue on the trucks ?
Clark County seems to have been moving to all red lighting over the past several years, on both new apparatus and refurbished ones. Not aware of any specific reason. There’s still a large number of vehicles with red and blue lighting in their fleet.
amazing! that rosenbauer is beautiful! 💛❤
They should put a red light/emergency stop on both sides of the road in front if the casern to let's the F.D vehicles go out safer and quicker.
Can you imagine going to war with electric tanks and the like
electric tanks are tested already
@@EnjoyFirefighting fossil fuels forever.please leave our engines alone please
I have a question, would pumping the truck drain the electric battery?
The Rosenbauer RTX has a backup diesel generator for prolonged pumping operations. The electric battery is more for travel. That's what I've read, anyway.
So then it should be called a hybrid. If has to have a combustion engine as back up its a hybrid.
That's hilarious, so it's not really an electric truck, eh?
@@rd4660I could run faster than it moved.
@@CobraEmergency The RT in Berlinworked by an multiple Car Fire over one hour with the battery. The range extender was aktivated on the tour back to the Station.
Good luck to Clarke County. Why does the electric truck not have a Q2B on it?
I herd its not possible due to the Q drawing 30amps upon wind up and causing potential damage to the batterys.
Toy siren for a woke truck.@@lilomelet68
@@lilomelet68 and like majority of west coast stations... they don't like using the Q or any mechanical siren at all. Unless if you're in Colorado, Portland, Arcadia, LA County, or The San Fran Bay area, then you'll get a lot of mechanical usage.
... @@lilomelet68 🤣
Electric fire truck. Wow, it can self extinguish.......
I hate those light patterns and I hate the light modules on the paramedic rescue, put a light bar on it.
Nice catches, no blue lights tho, what a shame.
we dont do blue lights in the states. just red, orange, yellow
So why do some units have them but others don't, seems like a backwards step
if your talking about the lights different states/towns have different regulations but if you are talking about the new truck i am pretty sure its new enough not to have been implemented everywhere@@theofficialemergencyservic7881
@frank-ko6de We do, lol. Clark County's Pierce rigs have reds and blues. Heck, FDNY uses blues, possibly even chicago.
@@flyingbanana4179 Okay, if you say so. My point is they use multiple flashing lights unlike the one color lights in Europe.
What happens if you're the unlucky 4th or 5th emergency in a row, and the truck is down for charging?
Took me 19 seconds to figure out it has a backup generator that can sustain operations. Another 7 seconds to find that LAFDs test rig uses about a tank of gas per year on the backup system. The rest is electric.
@@ocman11There is a motor generator on the pump. For electric pumping, it runs as a motor. The diesel can be clutched to the M/G and pump, so the diesel can run the pump and charge as needed. For LAFD, it has been electric 98.2% of the time.
I wish there were more vehicles out there like this. It is a true extended range plug in hybrid, which is rare among cars and light trucks. (Meaning the good sized battery and decent backup power.... not the pump part.)
Probably has a diesel range extender. They also have a giant blanket in another truck to cover it when the battery explodes.
All that water and electricity what could go wrong lol
@@stackingdimes6939 you know that electric cars are doing better at river fords than cars with a gasoline / gas / diesel engine? Not a problem at all to have an electric fire truck with water on board then.
At least it can put itself out
Be called “CoraEmergency and Planes, I heard a lot Of planes while Responding
The irony.
Electric vehicle fires are nearly unstoppable, so let's put a massively bigger battery system and make it a firetruck.
0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire, compared with a 0.1% chance for internal
Looks like a Zamboni with a siren.
Amazing video, sir
This fire station needs those traffic lights to turn red when they deploy from the garage instead of waiting for traffic to slow to them.
How small the RTX looks next to the other vehicles.
And that means less water, less tools, less hose, and less capability.
@@ffjsb sure about this? This is the normal size for a European firetruck
@@Croip3 This isn't Europe.... SMH.
beauty fire trucks. good video
Yeah, the kind of beauty only a mother could love.
That RTX looks like it was leaning, almost like its left rear airbag was not inflated
Very nice truck and video.
Air suspension? It is riding low and more so on the engineer side as you can see the rear mud flap dragging when it drives away.
I like how it pulled over to so the real trucks could get in to work..
...or, did the battery die as soon as it hit the street?
@brandonseyfried1251 agreed, I see that bucket of battery bolts was the last Engine to the party.
It had an air suspension problem. 🤷🏻♂️
Good old Flamingo main fire station I remember that station
how do you get the radio comms? Im going to vegas and san diego next week and want to know how
It is still ugly, but it looks SO much nicer in yellow and blue. The motor sounds are always cool too. Awesome catch!
Hear it just whine with the torque
@@JOHNJCLARK Electric motors will always be superior in the acceleration and torque department.
@@LakesRegionEmergencyPhotoI know that's why I made the comment.
Glad I'm not living in a town that depends on a firetruck that's as volatile as the fires it's going to fight. I'd quit the Fire Department before I was forced to ride in that death trap.
as if diesel powered trucks would never have issues, would never burn, would never fail, ...
Liked and shared 👍🏻🚒
Appreciate it Neil!
@@CobraEmergency 👍🏻
LAFD station 82 has one. Also, it’s really a hybrid since it does have a diesel motor as a backup power source.
yeah ... it's a backup, nothing more. It doesn't need it in a normal scenario, in a normal shift.
Damn that EV is slick af
Grrr EVs Grrrrr
Slick meaning silly?
@@RLTtizMEYou sound very slick!
@@bigfoothunter8080 That was devastating. I need your therapist's number again.
I will be interested to see how these electrics function in a metro area. What is life span of the batteries? Cost to refurbish? Operational ability on long multi alarm jobs ( day or longer) Issues in disaster zones when power grids go down? Drive train suspension issues and stability issues given the increased weight of battery systems? Etc etc etc
The manufacturer says it has a 300HP BMW 6 cyl as backup power.
What's the lifespan of a timing belt? Or catalytic exhaust? Or... etc.... And cost of maintenance of the insanely complex internal combustion engine with all its requisite parts? You're just asking all the wrong questions, stuck in one fixed mindset. Let's see how EVs look when they've had the decades (century?!) of development that their predecessors have had.
@@mLyonJE I’m not asking the wrong questions. I’m not in support or supporting the rig. It’s an emergency vehicle that cost a million plus dollars and HAS to function. We know the parameters of the combustion rigs. Placing new technology that has demonstrated major problems in passenger cars into an emergency vehicle is a bit premature. Especially when all signs show that EVs do nothing to slow the need for fossil fuels and still create their own environmental hazards.
@@Rescue-mt7fl Yes, I would say those are much better questions to be asking.
(Costs and lifespan is a commercial argument aimed to discredit; whilst reliability and predictability in an emergency context are far more relevant factors. Side note, perhaps don't try to talk about EVs and need for fossil fuels, it's not a good look on you.)
@@mLyonJE cost is of course a valuable question. When purchasing millions of dollars of equipment with taxpayer money, the cost and longevity are of course solid questions. If a department owns say 5 apparatus that cost 1.5 million each. If those rigs last 5 years, then there is a taxpayer requirement of 7.5 million every 5 years. That’s money that can’t be used to hire new personnel, place those personnel in gear or adequately train them. If the rigs last 10 years, the 5 year cost of ownership drops to 3.75 million. Of course fiscal responsibility plays a solid role in longevity. Add to that the environmental disaster that is looming with the noted hazards to lithium ion batteries and their disposal.
As to, not being a good look on me…. I live in the real world where realities don’t care about looks. The absolute fact is that an EV takes 2/3 more fossil fuels to actually produce than does a combustion vehicle. The fact is that these vehicles still require lubrication and maintenance that utilizes fossil fuels, the fact is that mining, production and disposal of EV vehicles and their components poison the ground water at alarming rates. We are trading a massive looming environmental disaster to “look” like we care and are doing something productive. To me, ignorance is “not a good look”
Dang thing didn’t even make it off the apron before it failed .
Good to see these getting test deployed.
We'll see after about 8 hours of solid pumping. What that thing is all about? Also in about 5 years see if the battery still have its life. It's all new.
You, the taxpayer, will be $$$
They have diesel motors to back up the electric side. It can pump as long as it has fuel.
Show me a fire with 8 hours of continous pumping. I'll wait.
I have been on a few in my life and I worked for a small department. You can have that truck ken. I also bet it won't even pump for 8-hrs.@@kenkoller478
@@kenkoller478 I've been to plenty.
It rolled real far... Wonder if it has it's own fire suppression for the batteries.
This is exactly what my response would’ve been. Let’s add level land, fairly warm temperatures, and as you said no distance and certainly didn’t drive very fast. And that’s a good question can it put out its own fire. And don’t forget if it’s like the other ones it has a diesel generator in there, so that when the battery dies, this is such a small fire it won’t matter
Personally, I dont think it looks too good. It seems like they took the looms away from a standard fire truck and standard Rosenbuar engines aswell. I do lime the full side lights though!
Never knew they had a ray tracing RTX fire truck in the USA
I give that FireBoxTruck a 5 yr lifespan 😅
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@@RLTtizME uhhh what are you trying to say
@@TheForcefieldUA-cam Ummmm......you're scaring all of us now FartField. Have your caretaker help you.
@@RLTtizME are you really just gonna be insulting me for no reason? on a EMERGENCY video? respect opinions man, jesus.
@@TheForcefieldUA-camOh it will be OK. Don't be so sensitive. T
So, what do you do if there's a black out? or if theres a deep freeze like what just happened in Chicago. I'm not trying to bash the idea of electric fire/rescue services, but if you're on seen for extended amounts of time, how long do the firefighters have on the truck's battery? The maintence cost for the city is probably also a lot more tha f it was a diseal.
As an EV owner, the amount of maintenance I have done in 25k miles of driving a car with 65k miles on it (Nissan Leaf S 24kWh) consists of wiper blades, tires, windshield washer fluid, and plugging it in. It's not the only car I have, and as you can clearly observe, this engine is the token electric vehicle in a sea of diesel. How about, instead of bashing the diversification of energy resources as we figure out ways to a cleaner energy future that don't leave everyone in the dark, you embrace the fact that every electric vehicle drops the demand for pump gas thus lowering price as supply increases.
An EV is extremely practical in a metro area for shorter commutes. In the western half of my state, you'd better own a Tesla, because there just isn't the population to support much infrastructure once you get away from interstate highways.
I work for the government, in field maintenance. Most of the buildings still have coal chutes and the larger ones have dedicated conveyors. 0 percent of them still use coal as a means of point-of-use heating. People adapted to methane/LP/electric. The air is cleaner as a result, and you hear far less about acid rain due to that and scrubbers that use sound waves or other means to cause large particulate matter to not be yeeted into the air you breathe.
Relax.
@@kdawson020279 You're asking way too much for someone that's triggered by EV. These clowns aren't capable of critical thinking skills. As a former firefighter an electric truck like seen here would have been completely fine on battery only for probably 95% of the calls I've responded to. Generally only 1 or 2 trucks are actually pumping and the rest are just sitting on scene in high idle wasting diesel. There's only been a few occasions where we did extended pumping - one of which was an absolutely massive fire so bad we actually had to ferry 5 gallon cans of diesel around the fire scene to fill up the trucks being they were running out. We didn't even have a plan in case for such an event but we got through it - just like these electric trucks will get through whatever they need to.
how do you pump gas in case of a blackout? Apart from that it has an on board range extender running on diesel. Strong enough to power the truck, pump and charge the battery
"or if theres a deep freeze like what just happened in Chicago" has been tested in cold environments years ago alreaedy
@@cruisinguy6024 Plus, electric traction motors have torque to spare if sized right. The level of irrational EV hate by people that think EVs are a slippery slope to not being able to put gas/diesel in their jacked up bruh truck that they never get dirty or use for any of the myriad activities that warrant a truck with that much displacement and ground clearance... it just doesn't make sense. I should stop trying to make it make sense, you're right.
Is that a standard first alarm response for a reported structure fire? 6 engines, 2 trucks, 2 rescues, and 2 BC’s?
Hope they've got enough real equipment to put the electric truck out after the fire starts
It's disturbing how unhinged people are about hating EV. Like, you use technology every damn day for everything else, but EV is what you reject? Really? Stupidity
People once rejected electricity, humans are very short sighted.
It's not hate to point out shortfalls or why something won't work just common sense.
Big whoopy F-ing do!
That Fire truck will burn down in batery thermal runaway xD
What an irony....
OK, some joking here: Notice the truck (ladder) rolled before the RosenVolt rolled, what's wrong, were they still charging batteries?
Notice the code lights on the RosenVolt went on then off then on, was the engineer determining if he needed to respond CODE-LESS to preserve battery power?
Possibly to get a ladder unit located if needed before water pump
Those big batteries don't take long at all so no. My guess is that incident command wanted the ladder in first and the engine to supply water. As for the lights, my guess was just an accident. It happens. Especially with a new rig.
I cannot believe Rosenbauer suckered CCFD into buying that Hybrid Electric POJ. Its funny, LAFD has had its for over a year and it STILL does not have California License Plates on it (ILLEGAL). It still has Wisconsin plates on it...just like the CCFD unit. Which tells me, these will be going back...like they are leased. Come summer time, the heat is gonna make that thing burst into ashes quicker than a Tesla! Good grief! Hope the keep the spare engine at the station...just like LAFD does...cuz these things aren't reliable.
It's a test unit....and Rosenbauer's US factory is in Wisconsin, hence the plates. Not illegal if you actually looked it up.
Or you can also keep sitting in a pool of your own sweat and BO whilst spewing ignorance. Up to you really.
@MommyKhaos I guess my 31 years in law enforcement isn't experience enough for you. And I undertake its a test unit. For how long? 11 years? When you and I acquire or bring a vehicle into this state, we have to register it. Why not THEY? Rules for thee..but not for WE. Quit name calling. You are just another knuckle dragger who cannot walk and chew gum. Go back to your single wide trailer
ONE OF THE Rosenbauer factories and main operations for manufacturing in the U.S. is in Wyoming, MN. My parents used to work there and I myself used to help work there. Volunteeringly when I was younger.
Not in Wisconsin. There’s not a single Rosenbauer factory in the state. Only CustomFire and Pierce as far as I know of.
Seems like you’re just making assumptions on what you think is going to happen
Ever been on a call where they need to send fuel trucks out to keep the engines running? I wonder how you do that with an electric truck.
It has a diesel generator on board to produce the "clean" electricity. Of course that's only after charging the battery at the station with "clean" electricity. Don't bother pointing out that 70% of Las Vegas' electricity comes from burning natural gas. Like most green nonsense It's all about appearance, not reality.
Had a truck run out of gas right at the end of a call. A firefighter caught a ride with someone to go to some city worker's house to get a credit card because he had been on vacation (he was supposed to keep the trucks gassed up). So, now with credit card in hand, one truck towed the other to the gas station-both trucks needed refueling. As for the electric truck, first, how in the world do you keep that running if it's a BIG fire and trucks need to be on scene for 24 plus hours? Carry an electric charger unit? Plus, it looked like it had zero ground clearance (a low rider fire truck?).
You would use the same fuel truck as the others to top up the range extender it has on board.
@@The_Dudesterit has a range extender, so after approximately 2 hours of pumping, the extender can fully recharge in 45min so it can run another 6 hours and it can keep running/pumping like any other appliance on scene.
As for the ride height, it’s fully adjustable air suspension that goes from 7 inches to 19 inches.
@@zig-y1v Fully recharge in 45 min? That must be very risky system
the fire truck caught fire when the battery exploded, news at 11....