Industry Ghostwriter Reacts to: Sick Boi is off all streaming platforms KUJOBEATS and Ren situation

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  • @sammyd8860
    @sammyd8860 13 днів тому +129

    Ren pinned this message to his Kujo Beat Down video : "To all my fans: I urge you not to contact Kujo direct, or send abusive messages on his channel for it only fans the flames. I am more than happy to fight my own battles. I am working hard behind the scenes to tie up all the legal knots. Beat stars have been helpful in this respect. If you want to help the situation by showing support share this video far and wide when it drops!!
    To Kujo and any associates - I have more than enough weight now to seek compensation for a video that was wrongly removed, for future losses, attempted defamation, fraudulent misinfomration. This video is my way of venting and putting a full stop on the situation, but if I see any further attempts to try and extort money or drag my name through the dirt I won't be so nice, after this I just want to move on."

    • @oldblack15
      @oldblack15 11 днів тому

      Beatstars are providing kujo with the lawyers. How can they be also be helping ren? Do not trust the music industry. Playing both sides. Kujo is probably just a pawn to bring ren down. They do not want independents. Or is it just all coincidence?

  • @lizl2432
    @lizl2432 13 днів тому +144

    Here’s a quote I found from a KujoBeatsOfficial interview:
    “Art is part of you, what you create is part of yourself it’s really you like it’s your soul like it’s the most real part of yourself in my opinion, you feel me…. At that point I was like “someone’s gonna walk away with something that I did?”, like wtf I was pissed bro!”
    (From 2 years ago referencing another artist he fell out with)
    Ironic isn’t it ?

    • @t-and-p
      @t-and-p 13 днів тому +32

      So he's a serial offender? 👀 What a surprise!
      Kujo did Ren dirty, even when Ren repeatedly went above and beyond to rectify a problem of Kujo's making. It all boils down to the fact that Kujo stole a sample and sold it as his own work. He deserves nothing for that, yet he was offered a massive boost to his career (working with Ren on a new song, with a 50/50 financial split) and he still turned it down. I thought that was insanity, but now I realise that he's following his "standard approach" and didn't know what to do when Ren through him a kindness curve ball.
      Everything that comes next for Kujo is deserved. I dread to think how many up-and-coming artists he's f'd over, that don't have the support that Ren does.
      Kujo is an artist alright... A scam artist...

    • @lizl2432
      @lizl2432 13 днів тому +7

      @@t-and-p haha great last line …

    • @bludaizee24
      @bludaizee24 13 днів тому +4

      Well, isn't that interesting! Great find!

    • @justicedelayed
      @justicedelayed 13 днів тому +12

      ​@mellifluousaNow Kujo should apply everything he said about that sample with his beat to his beat and Ren's song, album, video, promotion, etc. His beat, though an integral part of the original version of the song, is replaceable, and does not, in any way, make the song.
      And as far as samples go, no one is knocking him for sampling. They're after him for selling his beat with an uncleared sample as 100% his own work (which was explicitly against the terms of the contract), lying about it when confronted and saying that it was Ren's responsibility to clear it, and refusing to take responsibility for the fact that his lack of due diligence is ultimately all on him, as should be the fees that the sample owner is now seeking.
      He either really, really lacks the ability to think critically and comprehend the difference between unlicensed and licensed samples AND incapable of understanding that the publishing (that he may or may not be owed to him now because of what he did) is not Ren's problem or responsibility, or he's playing dumb to dodge responsibility and continue to attack Ren's credibility. The fact that he cannot see the parallels between what he said about the sample being a fractional part of the beat and his beat being a fractional part of the song, and an even smaller fractional part of the video and album is so frustrating. That he thinks he's owed anything above and beyond publishing is ludicrous.
      And after seeing an interview from 2 years ago with Kujo about beef he had with another artist, I'm starting to think it's a combination of not being very good at critical thinking AND being envious when someone else uses his beat (legally and with full permission) and then blows up a little bit. He thinks he's entitled to a cut, even though he's already signed away those rights by selling an unlimited license.

    • @Hexenkind1
      @Hexenkind1 13 днів тому +6

      It's sad.
      He turned into the thing he himself was fearful of.

  • @Teixefi
    @Teixefi 13 днів тому +43

    I saw a comment that describes this perfectly, Kujo mistook kindness for weakness and now he'll be hated by so many...i can't wait for angry Ren 😊

  • @skeptic5681
    @skeptic5681 13 днів тому +62

    Kujo did him dirty. Ren will show him that his community is more powerful and worth so much more than money. It's really greed that is breaking so many people's neck and thiis Ren & Kujo situation shows it once more. I don't think anyone else would've ever made offers like him, when Ren didn't owe him anything and showed a big heart despite Kujo treating him like garbage. I feel so bad for Ren but I'm glad he is staying positive and making something creative out of all this. I can't wait to hear his new songs

    • @skeptic5681
      @skeptic5681 13 днів тому +6

      I'm almost sure, if he just contacted Ren about needing money (if that was the reason why Kujo did what he did), Ren probably would've helped him out. I mean after all this, he even offered to make a song with him and do 50/50. I don't understand this man at all. If they did that and everything goes well, I'm also sure they could've done more together in the future. Now Kujo doesn't get anything. The beat from sick boi was really cool, but who really made that thing blow up was Ren himself, his story and his supporters. If I understood correctly, Ren paid the money for the beat and all rights to it so he was allowed to do with it whatever he wanted and Kujo sold his rights with that and whatever Ren earned from the beat/his song, would've been all his. I hope this stress is not messing up his health

  • @Emilie-one
    @Emilie-one 13 днів тому +29

    This guy was literally trying to extort Ren for more money. He sold a beat with a stolen sample. He broke the terms of his contract by doing so. First of all, Ren is too kind and gave this guy way too many olive branches. The fact that this guy turned down an offer from ren to do a 50-50 split on a new song is nuts to me. Talk about someone being consumed by greed and being shortsighted. I’m mad about it and I’m so heartbroken for Ren. The gaslighting this guy did to Ren is the most manipulative awful thing! I cannot wait until Thursday… This guy is going to learn something about fuck around and find out… He fucked around and Thursday he will be finding out. Go REN ❤❤❤

  • @southrnsweety88
    @southrnsweety88 13 днів тому +91

    Oh no, sick Boi is so good. It resonated with me so much because I have fibromyalgia and other chronic medical issues.

    • @paranora
      @paranora 13 днів тому +9

      You can buy the album.

    • @t-and-p
      @t-and-p 13 днів тому +10

      Please don't worry - I've no doubt that Sick Boi 2.0 will be bigger and better 😎 The best art takes on a life of it's own, and all Kujo has achieved by doing this is prove a lot of what Ren was saying in the piece. This is all part of Sick Boi's provenance now 😊
      Do you remember the Banksy piece that was sold at auction and then almost immediately shredded? The "destruction" that horrified many actually made it more powerful, more successful, and a much stronger statement. I think that this debacle will do the same for Sick Boi.
      Also, as both a doc and a fellow Fibromite (like you, I also have a few other chronic health issues, too), I'd be willing to bet that your journey with chronic illness has (like mine) taken many twists and turns along the way - and, at times, it's felt hopeless. Sick Boi has that path, that we've both walked, in it's history now, along with redevelopment, growth, and overcoming the harshest of adversities (which feels rather apt just after Ren has received cutting edge, life-changing treatment). Along with it's original message, it now also shouts from the rooftops that we CAN fight back and that hope IS forever present, even though we might not always be able to see it, or view it as a positive.
      Much love to you 💕

    • @southrnsweety88
      @southrnsweety88 13 днів тому +4

      @t-and-p thank you so much for that. Love to you as well. It's not always easy, but we fight to live another day. ❤️

    • @bludaizee24
      @bludaizee24 13 днів тому +6

      ​@t-and-p Beautifully said! I love Ren and resonate with him so much. I also have fibro and other chronic health issues. Ren is such a class act. I think the next Sick Boi will be like a Phoenix rising from the ashes. I didn't buy a physical copy the first time. But I certainly will next time! Love & solidarity to a fellow survivor! 🫂🫂🫂💕💕💕

    • @t-and-p
      @t-and-p 13 днів тому +1

      @southrnsweety88 and @bludaizee24 - We can't let it win, my friends 😎 One day at a time - and, at the end of each day, we add another score to our tallies, because Fibro will **never** beat us ✊️
      Absolutely love the imagery of a phoenix rising from the ashes - I think it perfectly sums up what we're about to witness 😍 I can't wait to see how Ren smashes it, considering his growth as an artist in the last year alone.
      Love to you both 💕 Stay strong and know you're validated and worthy. I'm a veteran and a doc in the ER, and fighting chronic illness is by far the hardest job I've ever had (& it is a full-time job). You are both warriors with untold strength - never let anyone tell you differently 💖

  • @cheetara32
    @cheetara32 13 днів тому +32

    Ren has written songs that tap into so many emotions but anger hasn't really been there other than maybe masochist... But even that is... Well it's masochistic!!!
    This track.... If I didn't know Ren to be the person he is and I didn't know the back story would worry me and possibly put me off ... But boy I am REALLY looking forward to it
    Like Ren we have all been in situations where we have swallowed anger at injustice or where we've been penalised for voicing it....
    "I will stand in your fire, I won't retire , I'll inspire the meek to be strong"
    Ren does what he says he's going to do and I can't wait to see him roar...
    We've all got his back, because he has integrity and has shown it numerous times.
    Thanks for the review and for being a great supporter of Ren #kujobeatdown

    • @nancys9698
      @nancys9698 13 днів тому +3

      Very well said & so True! 💗

  • @DonnaPoynton.
    @DonnaPoynton. 13 днів тому +58

    Can’t wait for kujo beat down,Thanks Cliff❤

  • @jacks9624
    @jacks9624 13 днів тому +19

    We all know that Sick Boi means a lot to Ren not just because people's responding to it make Ren feel less alone, but because people's positive response to it gave meaning and reason to all the suffering he went through. He said he desperately needed it to be justified. So it is not just an emotional thing for Ren, it has also spiritual and even existential level.
    But... it is what it is. The song is down on platforms, but it went up to the stratosphere, man, straight into legend...

  • @denalinde
    @denalinde 13 днів тому +24

    Anybody else think Cliff had no idea how worse it was going to be when he initially walked it off? 😂

  • @agatopol
    @agatopol 13 днів тому +14

    Great reaction, Cliff, thank you ❤ As a Bulgarian, right after I heard "Sick Boi" with our choir in it (which made me happy), I tracked down Kujo's chanel and commented on his beat ЯГА (which Ren bought).
    All I'll say is that his answers were disrespectful and immature.

    • @garychap8384
      @garychap8384 13 днів тому +6

      Wouldn't it be amazing if Ren reached out to the Bulgarian choir... who are already a little upset at Kujo for stealing and selling their music... and asked to do a live collaboration with them.
      Ren + the Bulgarian Choir! It'd be AMAZING! It'd be a win for everyone except Kujo!
      Remember, Mr Kujo... Ren offered to do a new song collaboration with you and split the money 50/50 for all sales... that would have been a golden ticket for your music career! He didn't have to be that kind, he just prefers to lift people up - not put them down! It would have made you famous and bring you more money... but you said NO and called him bad names in public!
      He tried! So, now, instead of a valuable collab you get a diss track!
      Now, Ren should totally reach out to the Bulgarian choir instead... and do a live one-take with them in Bulgaria!!!!!!!! And, just to upset Kujo, he could give them a 50:50 split. Or even 100% just to help them out. that'd REALLY upset Kujo!
      Good people win! Greedy people get nothing! This is how the world SHOULD work : )

  • @justinec3294
    @justinec3294 13 днів тому +28

    What if the remake of Sick Boi is a collab with the Bulgarian Choir😅

    • @creamcheese_pepperjelly5078
      @creamcheese_pepperjelly5078 13 днів тому +5

      I keep thinking this as well. I hope Ren collabed with them and paid them well. I'll lose my 💩 if this happens 🙏

    • @shirleywenlock-hot7460
      @shirleywenlock-hot7460 13 днів тому +4

      Ren hints on his Instagram that he's got the Bulgarian Choir for the remake. 🔥

    • @ginagifun6734
      @ginagifun6734 13 днів тому +3

      Pretty confident that's what'll happen

    • @garychap8384
      @garychap8384 13 днів тому +3

      OMG, I just finished commenting how cool that would be! Man, I really hope he's managed to pull that off... Ren, doing a live collab in Bulgaria - with the Bulgarian Choir!
      Especially since Kujo turned down Rens generous offer of a 50/50 split collab. Doing a 50/50 collab in Bulgaria, with the choir Kujo stole from, would be instant Karma!!!!!

  • @ashbii7632
    @ashbii7632 13 днів тому +31

    Amazing of you to take the time to cover this. Can’t wait to watch your reaction on Kujo beat down!

  • @mrdarengilbert3907
    @mrdarengilbert3907 13 днів тому +13

    I FAarking love Ren so much, his talent, his intellect, his humanity.
    Yeah man
    Keep on shining

  • @JonNo86
    @JonNo86 13 днів тому +15

    I've only been chased down once on a UA-cam comment on a Ren video (seven sins) by a true hater and I went back to it because the name sounded familiar.... kujobeats was the name of the hater and tried to "clue me in" that Ren lies about making his own music. I told him that was cute, because Ren put out a video on Patreon where he's producing Seven Sins and then he shows Connor, who loses his damn mind. After I told him that, he shut up lol. This bro is a problem, and at first I felt sorry for him... But now, he deserves everything that's about to head his way...

  • @ellesee7079
    @ellesee7079 13 днів тому +23

    When you reach out to Ren, be sure to let him know that we all feel his pain over this issue, but know that Karma is on his side! Ren - epitome of 'Speak softly and carry a big stick'! 💪🏻❤🐀🤗

    • @celtzen
      @celtzen 13 днів тому +1

      Or.. Speak softly and then watch this army behind me tcob...

  • @motess5304
    @motess5304 13 днів тому +14

    Remember remember the 5th of September

  • @Phoenix_flying
    @Phoenix_flying 13 днів тому +7

    It’s so heartwarming to see the beauty and compassion of this community. Thank you Cliff. You’re rocking awesome. ❤

  • @berniewatts5028
    @berniewatts5028 13 днів тому +19

    Much love to, two beautiful souls. Good does beat evil in the end. Prayers for Ren🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️❤️❤️👵🏼 Gmaw

  • @ItsMeBliz
    @ItsMeBliz 13 днів тому +5

    This is the reaction I've been waiting for, love Cliff he's such a good guy, and exactly the kind of guy you know would have your back 100%.

  • @sanoraray
    @sanoraray 13 днів тому +13

    Pay no attention to the loud man in the bar. It's the quiet man sitting by himself in the back you need to worry about. Producer man just pissed off the man in the back and I'm so excited to see what happens.

  • @Prophet_4_Profit
    @Prophet_4_Profit 13 днів тому +5

    "Yes, I'm tyrannical bro, so
    Never mistake a man for a fool
    I'll take your ignorance right back to school
    And teach you a lesson for testing my cool."
    Ren - Animal Flow

  • @vmo4136
    @vmo4136 13 днів тому +2

    I love supporting independent artists. So when I got to the part in Ren's video where he proposed working on a new track with Kujo, I was 100% here for it. I was ready to go subscribe to his channel, give his stuff a listen and help support him whether I liked his stuff or not. But the way he responded, and how this whole thing spiraled... Kujo himself killed my desire to help him out in any way. Now I'm 100% here for Thursday instead! lol

  • @declanmoore9005
    @declanmoore9005 13 днів тому +5

    The Vera Hall situation was beautiful to see, The Hall family were so happy to see his accomplishment.

  • @JoeChief_
    @JoeChief_ 13 днів тому +28

    the 5th September is going to be a beautiful day!

    • @StergiosMekras
      @StergiosMekras 13 днів тому

      Gonna be more explosive than the 5th of November.

  • @I.D.A-sw
    @I.D.A-sw 13 днів тому +3

    How can someone do this to one of the nicest person alive? All love too REN❤❤❤
    and all love to you too Cliff ✨☮️

  • @SickBoiRENegade
    @SickBoiRENegade 13 днів тому +7

    Ty for reacting to this!!❤🫶 See ya Thursday for #KUJOBEATDOWN

  • @smokestackmac3441
    @smokestackmac3441 13 днів тому +39

    F Kujobeats

  • @Lou-xq9br
    @Lou-xq9br 13 днів тому +16

    Aww Cliff, hurt's my heart all this.
    #ren is so open, honest and transparent 🩷
    Greed from a stolen beat blows my mind 💙

  • @sheenadees2701
    @sheenadees2701 13 днів тому +13

    I tear up at the part he does the pain is palpable.

    • @zoeymrs
      @zoeymrs 13 днів тому +4

      Me too. Every time.

    • @celtzen
      @celtzen 13 днів тому +7

      Seriously - I mean I'm annoyed through the whole video then you hit the deep breath and voice wibble and then the internal Momma Bear roar hits and it turns to nose running tears running pissed off (stupid crying when I get really mad sucks) bless that poor sweet hearted bright spark

  • @amyaeschbach3581
    @amyaeschbach3581 13 днів тому +3

    Thanks Cliff! Commenting here for your views and comments algorithm. I listen all the time and try to comment and we love you! I love your point of view. I love your analysis, and I always love how you feel the emotion deeply of everything you react to, and all of the songs and music. And your genuine appreciation for artist and for everyone. Just want to send you all the love.❤✌️🫶🏻☀️

  • @joshuacraig6447
    @joshuacraig6447 13 днів тому +7

    Cliff, as a producer you know how this works, right? I was listening to some Eagles until I saw you posted this video and immediately clicked because I knew the truth was going to he preached.

  • @kjsdottor
    @kjsdottor 13 днів тому +9

    Finally! Gave up hope. Okay, halfway through and worth waiting for. Your reactions to each twist and turn is Everything!

  • @GarnetJ
    @GarnetJ 13 днів тому +4

    Kujo and the BeatStars attorney underestimated Ren. Kujo is a fool for not taking the creative counter offer to create a new song with a 50:50 split, but the lawyer probably advised against it, since they only get paid on a settlement with Sick Boi.
    But now that Ren took the nuclear option, they get nothing, other than the original publishing split. I can almost guarantee the new version of Sick Boi will do even better than the original and it gives Ren’s team an excuse to release a special anniversary edition of the album. And now the original CDs/Vinyls/Cassettes will go up in value since they will be collectors items.
    But most importantly, I’m glad Ren went public with this so that it can help other artists and producers against the greed and shadiness in the industry. Even a lyric in Sick Boi talks about how the industry is cut throat.
    You should watch the end of Anthony Ray’s reaction to this right when Ren announces #KujoBeatDown! He says the best way to great music out of a rapper is to make them angry. I think the song and video will be epic! Ren is a nice guy, but he’s also a man of principle that won’t be stepped on or taken advantage of.

  • @sheenadees2701
    @sheenadees2701 13 днів тому +39

    I actually have a cd, so I will always have sick boi, but I'm more interested in the production ren creates for it.

    • @joshuacraig6447
      @joshuacraig6447 13 днів тому +5

      Same, but it sucks not to be able to watch the video in its original production. I am excited for what he does with the remix.

    • @rcmysm9123
      @rcmysm9123 13 днів тому +6

      ​@@joshuacraig6447
      It's still on UA-cam, just not on Ren's channel.

    • @sheenadees2701
      @sheenadees2701 13 днів тому +1

      @@joshuacraig6447 do reactions get removed? Perhaps that could be a way to still watch it. Or Ren could release a muted version...

    • @BenBallard13
      @BenBallard13 13 днів тому +2

      I've got a copy of the album on hardcopy (still sealed) and a digital copy on my phone, so I'll have it. I'm pissed off cos the video was banging!

    • @sheenadees2701
      @sheenadees2701 13 днів тому +2

      @BenBallard13 I couldn't agree more. I think Kujo just killed his own career. Maybe mainstream will want him, but fans of independent musicians are not going to support this fool.

  • @MsCheesemonster13
    @MsCheesemonster13 13 днів тому +12

    Not even half way through this, and I’m starting to worry about your blood pressure 😳

  • @RenNotRen
    @RenNotRen 13 днів тому +4

    Sat and watched the whole video. Thank you Cliff, can't wait to see your reaction on Kujo's dedication video 😁

  • @AVFC_Faithful
    @AVFC_Faithful 13 днів тому +7

    Now this is the video I have been waiting on. Free sick boi #renegadesassemble

  • @sheenadees2701
    @sheenadees2701 13 днів тому +22

    The situation has been such a crappy thing for Ren. I'm sorry I will never support anything Kujo does, and i will never even leave any comments anymore. He screwed himself by not accepting the offer to do a song. This could have been an opportunity for him, and he chose to spit on it.

  • @KiaMeFreeDD7349
    @KiaMeFreeDD7349 13 днів тому +5

    Thank you for reacting! Really helped confirm my own thoughts hearing it a 2nd time. See you Thursday?

  • @thalysajarvis8939
    @thalysajarvis8939 13 днів тому +8

    This whole world is effed up! I am looking forward to Ren's Revenge. Much ❤

  • @callmeeley
    @callmeeley 13 днів тому +11

    Funny thing one of our patreon members asked Ren how hard was he going to go, between 1 - 10, Ren said put it this way its not going to be like king dottas track, cant wait ❤

    • @Veeliscious
      @Veeliscious 13 днів тому +5

      Gloves are Off!🤛💪

    • @BenBallard13
      @BenBallard13 13 днів тому +2

      Naaah, the glove's still on it's just going to be a gauntlet in a velvet glove.
      Either that or it's going to be a boxing glove but injected with mercury.

    • @ginagifun6734
      @ginagifun6734 13 днів тому +4

      Yep, he wasn't really mad at Dotta, just having fun

    • @garychap8384
      @garychap8384 13 днів тому +2

      The Dotta thing wasn't even making anyone mad... just super confused, LOL
      everyone was just like... huh? who? why??? Knox and Ren????? Wait, how many subs he got? WTF?!?!?!

    • @callmeeley
      @callmeeley 12 днів тому +1

      @@ginagifun6734 exactly

  • @annanelahie4782
    @annanelahie4782 13 днів тому +2

    I was waiting for it 15 minutes and 19 seconds in and I see it on your face cliff. A little bit of anger and frustration creeping in. Like all of us I feel helpless for Ren. However, we know he’s a big boy and we know that he can deal with this. Love your reactions, Cliff.

  • @jessicagallant3443
    @jessicagallant3443 13 днів тому +5

    Love it can't wait till Friday I can see it be a song like the battle rap, but twist will be this will be the 50/50 song that kujo said no too. Because kujo wouldn't get anything out of this in the legal courts. And I know ren wants him to get something out of it cheers. Cliff, love what you do.
    I'm here if he goes really angry as well cause he has every right to.

  • @charleenk71
    @charleenk71 13 днів тому +2

    Thanks Cliff!! I’ve watched a few of the best react to this. You are the first to read the screenshots which I so thank you for!! Much Love! ❤

  • @Tinkerbell9332
    @Tinkerbell9332 13 днів тому +9

    Cliff!!! Thank you! I can't wait for Thursday!!!

  • @susie8557
    @susie8557 13 днів тому +8

    This is the best reaction so far! (And I've watched many.) Cliff Beats is always great to watch.

  • @MissMeKate
    @MissMeKate 13 днів тому +12

    Kujo turning down that collab was such a huge mistake. Could have made his career and flipped the whole script on this thing.
    The beat down on Thursday will be epic, I'm sure, and it's bound to surprise us in some way because this is Ren!
    And King Dotta was actually in the premiere for this video when Ren dropped it, and was backing Ren 💯. It was great to see. Dotta also did some reactions to Ren's stuff and is pushing the beat down too. That battle with Ren and the way it was handled means he's got Ren's back now. It's great to see.

    • @garychap8384
      @garychap8384 13 днів тому +1

      It wouldn't surprise me if Ren reached out to arrange a live collab with the Bulgarian Choir... maybe even recorded live in Bulgaria. Think about it... they're pissed off at Kujo for selling their music without permission. Ren is pissed at Kujo too. So a full-on collab would be instant karma!
      And if he gave them a master split 50/50 ... or even 100% just to help them out with their choir and prove a point - it'd really REALLY upset greedy Kujo! Ren offered him a golden ticket to instant fame, and Kujo turned it down. Fine! Be that way!
      A Bulgarian collab would just be a win for everyone except Kujo!
      The good get nice things. The greedy get nothing. This is the way the universe SHOULD work : )

  • @aimees6090
    @aimees6090 13 днів тому +7

    Why is no one focusing on the fact that Beatstars is legally representing Kujo? Is this not like a huge red flag? So Beatstars is trying to shake down Ren? Maybe Beatstars didn’t handle the process of clearing the choir sample correctly? Or their vague contract caused the problem? Why are they representing Kujo? There’s gotta be more to this…

    • @toria-j
      @toria-j 13 днів тому

      I'm curious about this too. If that's Kujo's only legal counsel, it really doesn't look good on them, especially considering the stolen sample breaches their own terms. I'd say it was a conflict of interest if true.

    • @perfectkismet
      @perfectkismet 13 днів тому

      Not an expert, but I feel like Kujo probably went to Beatstars with an issue on getting paid. That would make some sense. When the problem turned out to be more complicated - and in breach of the Beatstars contract - it definitely feels like a conflict of interest. I don't know why they would have continued like this.

  • @Healingvibrationsbymatt
    @Healingvibrationsbymatt 13 днів тому +5

    So right about the nice guys… they have your back until you cross them, then prepare for dissection 😮

  • @yasha.hartberg
    @yasha.hartberg 13 днів тому +5

    I've been looking forward to your reaction to this situation. Excellent as always. Thanks!

  • @stephkelly75
    @stephkelly75 13 днів тому +3

    On Rens Instagram, he has a photo from the kujo beat down video, I believe, and the music is the Bulgarian choir sample that had been stolen by kujo. I am soo hoping Ren got it cleared to be in the full song. That would be a huge fuck you to Kujo and the industry.

  • @malinhobbs2745
    @malinhobbs2745 12 днів тому +1

    Thank you Cliff for this long and real reaction to this video. Showing your support and love to Ren ❤
    The level of cool and maturity Ren showed during this entire situation is such an inspiration, to loose ones temper in the end and letting some words fry is a natural reaction most of us would have turned to much sooner then Ren did. And even then Ren kept it on a good level in my opinion. Can't wait to see what his anger has created to clense himself of all these feelings of frustration, sadness and anger that was building up inside of him during this ordeal. No matter what, I know it will be great and it will serve its purpose.
    Pains me to see how much this situation has hurt Ren but he is turning it all around and making Sick Boi even better ❤

  • @kazpwright
    @kazpwright 11 днів тому +1

    Thanks for sticking with this to the end... xx

  • @janiceN4Nugs
    @janiceN4Nugs 13 днів тому +4

    I've been wondering if you'd react. As someone in the industry, I thought you'd have good knowledge. Plus, I like how you break this sort of thing down. Now, back to watching 😊

    • @t-and-p
      @t-and-p 13 днів тому +2

      Same! I've been hoping Cliff would react to this 😎

  • @Shiroar
    @Shiroar 13 днів тому +2

    I swear, the more times I hear the story the less I understand how it all went from Kujo selling a beat with a stolen sample and the owners going “oi that’s ours!” to Kujo and his attorney demanding money from Ren as if he was the thief. It’s like there’s a huge gap and I suspect it’s between Kujo’s ears 👀
    Now I am just very impatiently waiting for Kujo Beat Down 🔥 Cause you’re right. It’s the nicest guys you need to be scared of. Ren is very passionate about his art, empathetic, and devoted to doing good in the world, so he uses his art to speak up against the wrongs he sees. Perhaps most dangerously: he is highly intelligent. This will be pure righteous anger expressed through brilliant lyricism. Kujo fucked up. No one is ready for this. But I’m sure as hell going to be there for the premiere! 😂

  • @KattVonTease
    @KattVonTease 13 днів тому +5

    I said the same thing about the orb 😂😂 could be his freckled Angel trying to comfort him through all this 🥹

    • @elkevera
      @elkevera 11 днів тому +1

      You saw it too? I thought it was just me with my certain abilities.

    • @KattVonTease
      @KattVonTease 11 днів тому

      @@elkevera oooh no no you not alone 👻 i seem to spot them all the time in random vids i watch lol

  • @ianjwatson1874
    @ianjwatson1874 13 днів тому +14

    Much love as always from one of your early army members in Edinburgh, Scotland ✌🏼

    • @skyaurora2112
      @skyaurora2112 13 днів тому +2

      Hello! I studied abroad in Scotland! Just wanted to say I had an amazing time in your city!

  • @dancerbird76
    @dancerbird76 12 днів тому +1

    Appreciate your take on this Cliff. Cannot wait to see the reactions to this beat down.
    The reaction community are gathering and waiting……💜🔥🔥🔥

  • @katiecollison6629
    @katiecollison6629 13 днів тому +1

    Thanks for covering this. When you consider how much Ren puts into making his music (we are honoured to see the videos of him working behind the scenes) it's So upsetting that he has had to go all through this. I sincerely hope that it doesn't affect his health 🙏 On and upwards from Thursday 🚀🌟💫💯💯

  • @niky9226
    @niky9226 13 днів тому +5

    I was waiting for this one 😂

  • @Lunabracco
    @Lunabracco 13 днів тому +1

    I had never heard of Kujo until this happened oh wait there was a movie about a devil dog called Kujo 😂 great reaction cliff ❤🇬🇧

  • @iamsquatty
    @iamsquatty 13 днів тому +10

    **GHOST ORB! GHOST ORB!** 😂😂🤣💜

    • @elkevera
      @elkevera 11 днів тому +1

      It is just a person without the physical body, not a ghost.

    • @iamsquatty
      @iamsquatty 11 днів тому

      @elkevera yeah, I was just remarking on the way cliff said it 🤣

  • @smokestackmac3441
    @smokestackmac3441 13 днів тому +26

    Kujobeats just ended his career

  • @Rob-2887
    @Rob-2887 13 днів тому +2

    Ren should go to that Bulgarian choir and work with them directly to remake the song.

  • @jasoncraig3863
    @jasoncraig3863 12 днів тому +3

    I hope Ren's remake of Sick Boi has the Bre Petrunko sample (that he paid directly for the rights), just to set thing right and leave Kujo in shame for stealing it in the first place and being greedy about it! Justice for all!

  • @lindaford5605
    @lindaford5605 13 днів тому +3

    He is my Welsh man, he is fantastic.❤🇬🇧

  • @kalin83
    @kalin83 13 днів тому +3

    Kujo can kiss his career as producer goodbye. No one will ever buy anything from him again.

  • @carlagroves4810
    @carlagroves4810 12 днів тому +2

    Well done - you felt it like we did ❤

  • @SunshineSolice
    @SunshineSolice 13 днів тому +1

    WE RIDE AT DAWN THURSDAY!!!!
    When you mess with Ren you mess with all of us because his heart is too pure to have to deal with this kind of greed and evil!
    It’s ok though
    Everything happens for a reason and this new version will be bigger and better than ever!!! 💛🌻🎶🙏🏽

  • @TheNeonNinja
    @TheNeonNinja 13 днів тому +3

    Twist news-flash: There is no actual GF. That's just Kujo. This is what scammers do.

    • @toria-j
      @toria-j 13 днів тому

      it would not surprise me, at all.

  • @udayshah7205
    @udayshah7205 13 днів тому +5

    LoL I am sorry I m second had to check the video second time 😂

  • @kevlar_krakatoa906
    @kevlar_krakatoa906 13 днів тому +14

    5/9/24 👌 or 9/5/24 for all you Yanks 👀

  • @ChristaEnrietta
    @ChristaEnrietta 13 днів тому +6

    Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @payntpot7623
    @payntpot7623 13 днів тому +1

    I can imagine someone making a movie of this. The Kujo character is written as a sandwich short of a picnic; his lawyer would be written as a shyster with the girlfriend played as very manipulative.
    Hell, I think you are right. Bloody Nora. He probably did get the money, or the ad revenue at least. Wings of Pegasus has recently discovered a similar copyright/revenue issue on yt with scammers lip syncing stolen songs and images and registering as their own.
    Technically, I do not think it is illegal to defame someone. If it was, the police would be full time arresting people. It is a Civil Wrong, not a Criminal Offense.
    Ed to add. I like your term 'reflection of self'. I have said in a few other reactions that I felt K was putting things he recognised in himself onto Ren. Your term is a clean and succinct way of putting those thoughts. Thanks.

  • @ivankules1702
    @ivankules1702 13 днів тому

    Good video :) the only thing stopping me from going to Kujos page and leaving a comment is respect for Ren and his wishes

  • @mauraleib
    @mauraleib 13 днів тому +4

    Give me a second-I gotta walk the off! 😂

  • @CosmicVagabondPixie
    @CosmicVagabondPixie 13 днів тому +2

    Thank YOU **Cliff** very MUCH for doing THIS **RENegadesInItALLTogether**

  • @SimonSykes-Shellman
    @SimonSykes-Shellman 13 днів тому +3

    Go Ren.... #kujobeatdown.... thank you for this reaction

  • @lindaford5605
    @lindaford5605 13 днів тому +3

    Yep cxxt is our favorite word as welsh people. He is a cxxt.

  • @AshleighJane-nd2qx
    @AshleighJane-nd2qx 13 днів тому +2

    The receipts! They couldn't get a response? All they had to do... was answer the phone? Ren was reaching out from the beginning.

  • @kazpwright
    @kazpwright 11 днів тому +1

    "...all he has to do is take his shirt off and all the ladies will come running." Some of the men too, I bet! 🤣

  • @redzwestisbest
    @redzwestisbest 13 днів тому +2

    Ren's community is strong and shows power by numbers. Did kujo not learn from the riddle solving journey that everyone witnessed?

  • @markpbowen
    @markpbowen 13 днів тому +2

    Glad I bought the vinyl and digital versions of the album. Can still play sic boy whenever I want. These issues are such a mess, but it looks like greed from one side.

  • @michaelwalsh7359
    @michaelwalsh7359 13 днів тому

    Thought for sure you’d be one of the first to respond to this one but glad you showed up to show love and support. The perfect revenge would be blowing up this beatdown till everyone on the planet knows Kujo’s name! Lmfao I also have no doubt Sick Boi will be even better and I can’t wait to see that one cause you KNOW he’s gonna do it BIG!!

  • @matthewschreiber2421
    @matthewschreiber2421 13 днів тому +2

    Ren is very adamant about us not being able to mess with Benizno I mean kujo.

  • @Kimava62
    @Kimava62 13 днів тому +2

    Thanks for this 🙏

  • @AshleighJane-nd2qx
    @AshleighJane-nd2qx 13 днів тому +3

    Don't mistake kindness for weakness

  • @JulieWollington
    @JulieWollington 10 днів тому

    Cliff i love this, i hate that Ren is going through this but im ready for tonight. Thank you as always Cliff you have a lifetime subscriber here ❤

  • @sheenadees2701
    @sheenadees2701 13 днів тому +6

    😂😂😂 Those orbs seem to be everywhere 😂😂😂

  • @ginagifun6734
    @ginagifun6734 13 днів тому

    It is indeed a reflection of self : "A liar will call you a liar, a thief will call you a thief."
    And Ren is such a kind and honest person that he expects that others are the same, and kept giving them the benefit of the doubt.

  • @sugarmommakirsty427
    @sugarmommakirsty427 13 днів тому +1

    Ren was born 1990! that makes him 34, I must say he does look good for his age. Even though he might not feel it.

  • @bethellen1962
    @bethellen1962 13 днів тому +1

    Kujo beat down. 9/5/24 Let’s Goooooo. ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

  • @tjh5716
    @tjh5716 12 днів тому

    I really understood this a lot more after this video. I was hoping you would tackle this. Thanks bro. It’s infuriating.

  • @lynette.
    @lynette. 13 днів тому +1

    Scam,fraud,libel and defamation of character could be topped off with financial and mental damages. Ren makes the gentleman's decision to remove the problem and deal with it his way. Diss and recreate.

  • @NJDMashups
    @NJDMashups 13 днів тому +1

    Kujo dropped the ball with how he handled this. Especially rejecting Ren’s 50/50 olive branch

  • @joshuawiedenbeck6944
    @joshuawiedenbeck6944 13 днів тому +1

    I have been in the building trades for almost 2 decades now. When someone decides that they need money, they will abandon all moral integrity to get that money. I also knew a subcontractor who did a ton of pot. He was always desperate for money to the point where he kept trying to cash a check from me every month or so for almost 6 months until I told him about it and to figure it out and stop it. These people won't stop unless they get all of Rens money from everything.

  • @maggieharris6935
    @maggieharris6935 13 днів тому +2

    Kujo is playing checkers and Ren is playing 4D chess.
    It seems he LEGALLY bought the bulgarian choir sample kujo STOLE and is legally using it in tge Sick Boi remake and maybe the Kujo Beat Down track.
    Kujo doesn't know how smart Ren is..

  • @richardhuff1256
    @richardhuff1256 13 днів тому +2

    Judging by his Instagram it appears Ren got the rights to use the Bulgarian Chior presumably in the beatdown track. Also would not surprise me if he gets them live in new version. The right people get paid and Kujo looses. Win win win.

  • @MegsD79
    @MegsD79 11 днів тому

    What Kujo didn't understand was that Ren never NEEDED that beat to make a great song! One of my favorite videos of Ren isn't even a music video or live music video, it's from one of his Twitch streams from last year when he was promoting Sick Boi the album prior to release. The video is on Hexenkind1's channel as it is a clip from a Twitch live and it is titled Ren's Spontaneous Stream Jam! It's Ren streaming on Twitch with an Unplugged accoustic guitar, sitting at his desk, eating dinner at the same time and he sings several songs and it just feels like an intimate concert with an amazing artist that doesn't need anything except himself and his guitar..... Honestly, I love watching new reactors react to that video so they can see the talent, charisma, and personality of Ren and they are always blown away!
    Ren more then likely bought the beat cuz he WAS in treatment and it was less time consuming. I haven't heard the original beat from before Ren rearranged it and added to it for Sick Boi but I'm willing to bet the guitar in that beat is 100% added to the beat by Ren.
    Anyway, I'm glad Ren didn't give in cuz I feel like this is going to set a precedent for anyone that thinks they can pull this crap or something similar with Ren because he is so kind, humble, genuine and caring and they think that makes him someone they can manipulate or use..... this should show anyone that he will stick to his guns if you want to just be greedy and rude.
    Thank you as always Cliff!
    See you at your reaction!
    💙💙💙🔥🔥🔥