Here's my attempt to translate some of this into English! 日本語を話せる人手伝ってください！ 3:15 Beautiful 86 drift 8:16 86 has a more excited initial throttle response whereas BRZ has a more linear throttle response 8:35 BRZ has deeper roll in the back? 9:10 BRZ has a very stable cornering feel, no sense of insecurity at all 12:14 86 feels like a sharpened version of the early years zenki 86 14:10 86 has a very excitable feeling 14:43 BRZ has a stable feeling, but within that stability you can feel that it is FR 16:45 BRZ despite being FR has the sense of security of an AWD car 17:37 It has started to rain but the stability and security is still very high 17:55 BRZ seems to have inherited Subaru’s AWD philosophy 18:45 When BRZ is made to slide it is very controllable 19:20 BRZ characteristics is not only one of composure, it also accepts drifting 20:30 In 86 you can feel the GR characteristics from the Yaris and Supra 22:15 In the 86 you can sense the flavour of the Yaris and Supra. In contrast, in the BRZ you can sense the flavour of the Impreza and Levorg 22:50 You can really feel the added distinct flavours from each company between the BRZ and 86 with this generation 23:43 You get a grand touring sense from the BRZ 24:15 When you wring it out it is fun as a FR car, but when you’re not the Subaru DNA is great 24:40 In 3rd gear, the 86’s rear still drifts, but in the BRZ the rear stays planted in 3rd. 24:45 In 2nd gear you can get the BRZ to drift but the rear stability is distinct
Thank you for the translation!! I‘m from Europe and I like drifting, so it‘s fine for me that we only get the GR86. Did they say anything about the brakes? I hope they are durable on track.
Bryan : They found out that this time Toyota and Subaru successfully made the 86/ BRZ twins adequately fast, and differentiate each car's driving characteristics significantly as opposed to the reputation the previous gen models had been infamous for. The two reviewers say they can tell the 86 is tuned to be more responsive, aggressive, direct, and sharper to drive while the new BRZ feels smoother, steadier, more controllable and easier to live with every day, although both are super exciting, well balanced and highly sophisticated as modern FR sports cars, well surpassing the 1st gens. The 86 is for dynamic track racing and pure FR drifting fun just like the iconic name suggests. BRZ is for high speed grand touring with planted-on-the-road feeling as if it's an advanced AWD sports car.
@@lensoprezole5322 Whoa! :O Thank you sooo much for the translation man! You see, Not all heroes wear capes and you have definitely been my hero this time :') ✨
sounds like to me the GR86 is built more for those that want a FR car to have fun sliding around every corner while the BRZ is tuned more towards those that want to attack corners with grip racing. Very interesting. Makes total sense considering Subaru's philosophy has always been about AWD grip.
I feel Toyota really did a fantastic job with the front end look. I love the way it looks! Substantially better than the facelift from 2017-current. I like the bump in power and will be eager to see how the output does with some headers and E85 tune.
@@RandomlnternetGuy Not exactly. Enable the auto captions for Japanese, then you'll see another option to translate. Pick your language and you're done. Although I will say they are pretty brutal. I still ended up getting the gist of it though. BRZ is more like a grand touring car. Fun when you want it to be but feels safe and comfy. The GR86 is more fun and sporty overall and will slide around easier when you encourage it to. More playful you could say.
They found out that this time Toyota and Subaru successfully made the 86/ BRZ twins adequately fast, and differentiate each car's driving characteristics significantly as opposed to the reputation the previous gen models had been infamous for. The two reviewers say they can tell the 86 is tuned to be more responsive, aggressive, direct, and sharper to drive while the new BRZ feels smoother, steadier, more controllable and easier to live with every day, although both are super exciting, well balanced and highly sophisticated as modern FR sports cars, well surpassing the 1st gens. The 86 is for dynamic track racing and pure FR drifting fun just like the iconic name suggests. BRZ is for high speed grand touring with planted-on-the-road feeling as if it's an advanced AWD sports car.
Looks like the brz has fake engine noise and the 86 doesn't? Thank god! After being a bit underwhelmed with the brz unveil the 86 is clawing things back. I might just upgrade to gen2 after all!
Yes, in the cabins the engine noises are different in each car ! BRZ sound fake out of the speakers and the 86 sound natural. But it would be better if Toyota can confirm officially.
This car is going to get great reviews once it arrives in the US, especially if the starting msrp around $32k or so. Toyota/Subaru really nailed the second gen BRZ/86 imo.
Super Cool, but I'm sure Lovecars!tv! could also find some guys or gals fluent in English & maybe German or French that could test these two neat cars. The UA-cam translations are very funny. Oh well, the video is great. I plan to get one of these after comparison test drives. For normal driving I doubt there is much noticeable difference. One factor is there are a lot more Toyota dealers than Subaru dealers. 見るのが楽しい。 ビデオありがとうございます。アラバマからのご挨拶。
They found out that this time Toyota and Subaru successfully made the 86/ BRZ twins adequately fast, and differentiate each car's driving characteristics significantly as opposed to the reputation the previous gen models had been infamous for. The two reviewers say they can tell the 86 is tuned to be more responsive, aggressive, direct, and sharper to drive while the new BRZ feels smoother, steadier, more controllable and easier to live with every day, although both are super exciting, well balanced and highly sophisticated as modern FR sports cars, well surpassing the 1st gens. The 86 is for dynamic track racing and pure FR drifting fun just like the iconic name suggests. BRZ is for high speed grand touring with planted-on-the-road feeling as if it's an advanced AWD sports car.
they said the overall feeling is a refined and more natural version of the AE86 which means a sportier variant, and for the BRZ it is a bit more steady feeling stearing and ECU wise. The overall character will be the a bit youthfull feeling would be the toyota, and the more mature GT variant would be the subaru. So, if u wanna drift 86, if u want GT u want BRZ. Sorry for my bad English.
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Here's my attempt to translate some of this into English! 日本語を話せる人手伝ってください！
3:15 Beautiful 86 drift
8:16 86 has a more excited initial throttle response whereas BRZ has a more linear throttle response
8:35 BRZ has deeper roll in the back?
9:10 BRZ has a very stable cornering feel, no sense of insecurity at all
12:14 86 feels like a sharpened version of the early years zenki 86
14:10 86 has a very excitable feeling
14:43 BRZ has a stable feeling, but within that stability you can feel that it is FR
16:45 BRZ despite being FR has the sense of security of an AWD car
17:37 It has started to rain but the stability and security is still very high
17:55 BRZ seems to have inherited Subaru’s AWD philosophy
18:45 When BRZ is made to slide it is very controllable
19:20 BRZ characteristics is not only one of composure, it also accepts drifting
20:30 In 86 you can feel the GR characteristics from the Yaris and Supra
22:15 In the 86 you can sense the flavour of the Yaris and Supra. In contrast, in the BRZ you can sense the flavour of the Impreza and Levorg
22:50 You can really feel the added distinct flavours from each company between the BRZ and 86 with this generation
23:43 You get a grand touring sense from the BRZ
24:15 When you wring it out it is fun as a FR car, but when you’re not the Subaru DNA is great
24:40 In 3rd gear, the 86’s rear still drifts, but in the BRZ the rear stays planted in 3rd.
24:45 In 2nd gear you can get the BRZ to drift but the rear stability is distinct
its ocincin.
OK？
thefuturedrive : thank you very much
Thank you for the translation!!
I‘m from Europe and I like drifting, so it‘s fine for me that we only get the GR86.
Did they say anything about the brakes? I hope they are durable on track.
hello. any idea when will gr86 be available in the Philippines?
THANK YOU
GR86は3速でスロットルを開けるとリアを流せるけど、BRZは2速に落として回転を上げないとリアを流せない。両車のセッティングの違いが、マナブさんの表現で、ほぼ全てに近い位解りました！語彙力と表現力ハンパないです！
スポーツカー好きの子なし夫婦ですが、GR86とBRZをそれぞれ購入する事が決まりました！
お二人のレビューを毎晩見ながらどっちがどっちに乗るか楽しく相談してます♪
両方買うのはすごい。憧れます
それならスープラ買えよ笑
この時代にFRスポーツの日本車が継続されて発売されることに感謝したいです
GRスープラは純日本車じゃないしな。
@@ktcworks
まあ86もですけどね…。そう考えるとヤリスって完全トヨタ製で力入ってますよね〜
@俺の名前はプーさん
そーやね。混血だけど日本車だわ。ごめん。
@@ktcworks BMW製ですからね。
@俺の名前はプーさん
ありがとう。
GR86の白めっちゃかっこいいな
こういう夢のある車が僕は大好きです。
この時代に遊び心ある車を出してくれることに感謝👏
発表された時のデザインの印象は、なんか前の方がカッコ良かったなぁ〜って思ったけど、色がホワイトで実際に走ってる所見るとめっちゃカッコいい...！
登場楽しみですねー！
サーキットでの試乗会兼商談会、みたいなのがあったらいいのに、笑
最近スポーツカー盛り上がって来てますね！早く新型Zとの比較も見たい！
良い音しますね
こりゃ、実際に乗り比べてみたいですねぇ。非常に楽しみだなぁ。近年久々に新車にワクワクさせてくれるクルマですね。
86が好きだった20歳の頃に最初にAE111を買ってずっと乗ってました。今は本当なら大好きなスバル（特にインプ・BRZ・WRX）にしたいところを実用性に寄せてレガシー(MT)に乗ってます。
2台とも本当にいいチョイスです。「メーカーは違うけどこの2台が好き！」って人、多いのではないでしょうか。
こういう動画見てると欲しくなりますねぇ
このスポーツカー不況時代にこの2台が進化したらTwitterのトレンド3位入りしたり、LINE NEWSに情報が出るって事がめちゃくちゃ嬉しい！
山本さんが笑っちゃってたのが非常に印象的でした。
初代がなんだ、両車がなんだってのもありますけど、やっぱり乗ってて楽しい！っていう一番重要な要素が伝わりました。
I don't even understand Japanese but I love the 86 so much I just couldn't hold it, the first gen 86 was the first car I fell in love with :') 💕
U can't even afford one kid...
Dixie D'amelio unnecessary comment. Go spread your negativity somewhere else please.
@@dixiedamelio8170 They're not expensive cars, get off your high horse
Bryan : They found out that this time Toyota and Subaru successfully made the 86/ BRZ twins adequately fast, and differentiate each car's driving characteristics significantly as opposed to the reputation the previous gen models had been infamous for. The two reviewers say they can tell the 86 is tuned to be more responsive, aggressive, direct, and sharper to drive while the new BRZ feels smoother, steadier, more controllable and easier to live with every day, although both are super exciting, well balanced and highly sophisticated as modern FR sports cars, well surpassing the 1st gens. The 86 is for dynamic track racing and pure FR drifting fun just like the iconic name suggests. BRZ is for high speed grand touring with planted-on-the-road feeling as if it's an advanced AWD sports car.
@@lensoprezole5322 Whoa! :O Thank you sooo much for the translation man! You see, Not all heroes wear capes and you have definitely been my hero this time :') ✨
新型のデザインは86の方が好きだな。
現行はBRZの顔が好きで買ったけど
BRZがGT的な落ち着いた乗り味で
GR86がスポーツカー的な元気な乗り味って印象ですかね。
サイズがほとんど変わってない、むしろ低くなってるのは素晴らしいです。
すごく分かりやすいレビューありがとうございます。
当然新型には乗ってませんが、BRZとGR86の走りの違いがほぼほぼイメージ出来ました。
めちゃいいサウンドですね！欲しくなりますね！
sounds like to me the GR86 is built more for those that want a FR car to have fun sliding around every corner while the BRZ is tuned more towards those that want to attack corners with grip racing. Very interesting. Makes total sense considering Subaru's philosophy has always been about AWD grip.
BRZのニンマリ顔かわいい
I feel Toyota really did a fantastic job with the front end look. I love the way it looks! Substantially better than the facelift from 2017-current. I like the bump in power and will be eager to see how the output does with some headers and E85 tune.
EASY 250+HP and 225+ TQ (to the crank) with a full exhaust, air intake/filters, and e85 tune.
0:26 横顔と斜め後ろから見た顔結構格好良いな😌
それめっちゃ思いました。色が赤じゃなくて白なのもありますけど思ってたよりかっこいいです。
86の顔がシャープになってカッコイイな
先代の方シャープじゃない？
旧型のツリ目が無くなって可愛い系の顔になりましたね
86 exterior views :
0:22 , 03:16 , 04:43 , 05:10 , *06:35* , 09:46 , 10:23 , *10:40* , 11:12 , 11:56 , 12:21 , 16:52 , 19:59 , *20:16* , 21:29 , 21:55 , 22:30
86 engine sound : 12:28
Thank you!
@@FaaizAliTV You're welcome 🙂
好みに分かれるとは思うが、並べてみるとスバルのデザイナーの凄さが伝わってくる。
良い音しますね！
ただ結構音量高いですが、スピーカーの音を落とせたりオフにできるのかな？
86は若者向けでBRZはいい年になっても乗れるような大人なデザインって感じがします
安全装備とかいっぱい付いてるから仕方ないけど、若者が買える価格じゃないんですよね。本当は86とかは若い世代にガンガン乗って欲しいのにね。
比べると、BRZはサスペンション柔らか目のロール&ストローク多くして接地を高める安定方向で
GR86はサスペンション硬め、スロットルレスポンスを高める設定でアクセルコントロールで振り回しやすい設定てことかな
なるほど、分かりやすいです
ありがとうございます！
と言うことは突き上げや振動とか、疲れにくさとかはBRZの方がマシになりますか？
今日新型のBRZが公道走ってましたよ ドライバーさん羨ましい 工場間のむ移動を自走で行っていた模様です
ここから何年brzを新車購入できると思いますか？
前までロゴでしか区別出来んかったが分かりやすくなったな
前のは顔みたらわかるけどケツだとまじで見分けつかなかった
はや！もう試乗してる！！
報道向けのみの試乗会だと思います。
フロントの入り、s660 と比べてどですか？
I can't understand, but i still enjoyed!
Please use the translation function of UA-cam .
@@chanyamadesuka captions are Japanese only bud
@@RandomlnternetGuy Not exactly. Enable the auto captions for Japanese, then you'll see another option to translate. Pick your language and you're done. Although I will say they are pretty brutal. I still ended up getting the gist of it though. BRZ is more like a grand touring car. Fun when you want it to be but feels safe and comfy. The GR86 is more fun and sporty overall and will slide around easier when you encourage it to. More playful you could say.
@@MasterSoda360 don't even have that option on my UA-cam app... weird..
They found out that this time Toyota and Subaru successfully made the 86/ BRZ twins adequately fast, and differentiate each car's driving characteristics significantly as opposed to the reputation the previous gen models had been infamous for. The two reviewers say they can tell the 86 is tuned to be more responsive, aggressive, direct, and sharper to drive while the new BRZ feels smoother, steadier, more controllable and easier to live with every day, although both are super exciting, well balanced and highly sophisticated as modern FR sports cars, well surpassing the 1st gens. The 86 is for dynamic track racing and pure FR drifting fun just like the iconic name suggests. BRZ is for high speed grand touring with planted-on-the-road feeling as if it's an advanced AWD sports car.
安定感のBRZ、俊敏感のGR86って感じですね
先代も好きでしたが、もう一声パワーが欲しいなと思っていました。
2.4㍑であれば期待できそうです。
2.4リッターですよ？
@@野菜の力 はい、なので全域でパワーが向上しているでしょうから、期待できる車だと思います。
@@blue_dog_channel 楽しみですね、販売が楽しみです
@@野菜の力 さん、きっとトヨタとスバルをハシゴすると思います✌️
1.8リッターのレヴォーグよりもパワーがあると思います。
GR86がスポーツに振るなら、BRZはきっちり大人も楽しめるグランツーリングカーに仕上げてほしいな。
when will gr86 be available in phillippines??any information?please help
スバルとマツダと組むトヨタは
本気だ
モリゾウさんも意地のある人です。
熱いというか、もっといいクルマにしようというのがスープラやヤリス以上に伝わる。
新型のBRZは現行BRZのようにエキマニを変えるとボクサーサウンドを鳴らすことは可能なのでしょうか？
新型を買ってボクサーサウンドを鳴らしたいのですが…それができるのかを知りたいです！
購入できる範囲の日本車で久しぶりにワクワクしますね。
トヨタもスバルも、日本のFRスポーツを頑張って作り続けて欲しい
旧型の中古が高騰してるのをみると新車で頑張って買うのが一番かも
名車あるある。新車が1番安い。
８６の方が四輪ドリフトし易い様に滑るように作られてるように思います
若い頃はそれが嬉しかったけど、、もう年なのでミッション車はキツいかな😢。。。
なので、学さんと同じのＢＲＺＳのＡＴで大人的に楽しみたいと思いました！
両車の攻め比べ、参考になりました。ありがとうございました🤗
値段が気になりますよね。ブレーキのダクトやリアの下回りの空力の解説も見たいです。
シルバーbrzガチかっこええやん。
Looks like the brz has fake engine noise and the 86 doesn't? Thank god! After being a bit underwhelmed with the brz unveil the 86 is clawing things back. I might just upgrade to gen2 after all!
GR 86 seems a bit quiet in this video though. But yes, I hate fake noise too.
Yes, in the cabins the engine noises are different in each car ! BRZ sound fake out of the speakers and the 86 sound natural. But it would be better if Toyota can confirm officially.
乗ってる人が楽しくて笑う。それがイイ車を体現する全てだと思う。
値段どれくらいになるのですか？
English fan here 💙
French fan here 💗
内外装デザインは先代達より手堅いように感じる
確かに先代達は尖ってたもんね。
デザインも走りも、厳ついから男前になった感じか？
見た目は86、乗り味はBRZが良いなぁ…
大人しい乗り味が良いのですね。
ガソリンエンジンがなくなると考えたら赤丸急上昇中のBRZ！出力が上がって明らかに加速が速くなりましたね❗️まもなく超希少車になりますねー‼️
シレッと、コメントしながらドリフトはかっこえ笑
車内に響くエンジン音も86とBRZで変えたのかな？ 微妙にBRZの方が伸びやかな音に聞こえる
違いがあるとしたらスピーカーのチューニング違いと思います。
外観好みじゃないなーって思ってたけど、見るたびにかっこよく写るw
やっぱ白かっけえなぁ
音好みだなぁ〜
BRZのアクセル踏んだ時の音がかっこいい！マフラーの違い？
スピーカーからの音の違いかも？
デザインはGR86が好みかな
と、スバル乗りが言ってみる
てっかもう最後かもしれないよ
買っちゃえ！！
Hope you can do English subtitles soon.
This car is going to get great reviews once it arrives in the US, especially if the starting msrp around $32k or so. Toyota/Subaru really nailed the second gen BRZ/86 imo.
BMWとトヨタ 90スープラ、
スバルとトヨタ 86、BRZ
スポ車は共同開発せな厳しい時代か…
悲しい時代だが、途絶えさせない各メーカーの根性は嬉しいぞ
単品だと赤字確定なんでしょうね、
乗ってみたいです😭
（2台ともプロトタイプってことは頭に入れつつ）特にスバルは上位グレードなのにナビレスを選べるのならば、それ自体も今の時代際立ってることなのかもしれないですね。もちろん用品メーカーの為に2din規格を死守してあげている感もありますが、販売された後20年くらい現役で走ることを考えると「モニター無しでも制御が完結している意味」は結構重いかも。ドイツ御三家は勿論、ロードスターでさえ嫌でもモニターがついてくるわけですので。
いい車だすよねー。
日産もシルビアS16はよ‼️
レディーは若者には高すぎる
Super Cool, but I'm sure Lovecars!tv! could also find some guys or gals fluent in English & maybe German or French that could test these two neat cars. The UA-cam translations are very funny. Oh well, the video is great. I plan to get one of these after comparison test drives. For normal driving I doubt there is much noticeable difference. One factor is there are a lot more Toyota dealers than Subaru dealers. 見るのが楽しい。 ビデオありがとうございます。アラバマからのご挨拶。
gr86がシャチでbrzがイルカみたいな顔
わかるってくれる人いるかなーー、？
言われてみれば確かにそうですね！
シルバーのBRZがネットでナマズみたいな顔って言われててそれにしか見えなくなった笑
言われてみればそうだ😂😂いい例えですね
86のほうは色は赤や白以外になにがあるのか気になります
特に新色が気になります。
価格どうなるんだろ。基本コンポーネント同じだし、値段見て決めようかなぁ。
スピーカーからエンジン音が出るって言ってたけど、86,brz共通なのかな？
2台の違いを詳しく説明して頂きありがとうございます。元初代BRZオーナーとして再び購入を検討するきっかけになりました。試乗が楽しみです。
内装見て驚いたのはカーナビがめっちゃデカくなってること。嬉しいｗ
私も同じです。
これは二台とも楽しそうですね。
GR８６はマニュアルで近場の峠を攻めに、BRZはオートマチックで遠くの観光山岳道路を流す感じで２台持ちしてみたい。まあ経済的に無理だけど～
多用途を考えて新型レヴォーグ買って満足していますが、
買う前にこのBRZを見ちゃってたら…迷っていたな…汗
いや、レヴォーグ凄く良い車なんですよ、ホントに。
でも…FR…2.4L…💦
ATのインプレもお願いします🤲
対抗でシルビア出してくれー
俺的には86のがフロントがスッキリしてて好みかな
音めっちゃいいね
Astonishing car! Crazy value for money! Greetings from Italy ;)
エンジン音の聞こえ方もだいぶ違いますね 86 4:27 BRZ 7:31
ポルシェ924の再来だっ！買うぞーーー
先代の非力さが無くなって楽しい車になってそうやけど価格が気になる…
400万は少なくとも切って欲しい
白だとメッシュが目立ってむちゃくちゃ86カッコイイ
逆にBRZは青じゃないとダサい
青はかなりカッコイイんだけどね
最近のトヨタ車、GRヤリスもそうですが白が凄く映えますよね〜
スバルファンには申し訳ないが、スバル車ってメカニカルな部分はすばらしいのだけれど、デザイン面があか抜けてない感じがする。
なんていうか、色気が感じられない。
スポーツカーは色気って大事よ。
@@rousuro フルエアロ組むから問題ナッシング
この動画だとBRZダサく見える、というかシルバーが似合ってない。だけど、実物で見たけど、同じ白同士で比べるとBRZの方がかっこいい。特にBRZはグリルが低重心を感じられるようなデザインでカッコよかった。色って印象めちゃくちゃ変わるから大事なんだよな。
音聞いてるだけで‥気持ちいい〜ってなるw
どっちか欲しいなぁー
La 86 est très belle 👍❤
ありがとう御座います🙏🙏
五味さんとのコラボが良かったです(笑)
どっちもかっこいいよ。
86にGRが付いているとは…値段がどーなるか気になる。日産Zもそろそろ出るだろーし、ワクワクしますわ😃
What did they say?
They found out that this time Toyota and Subaru successfully made the 86/ BRZ twins adequately fast, and differentiate each car's driving characteristics significantly as opposed to the reputation the previous gen models had been infamous for. The two reviewers say they can tell the 86 is tuned to be more responsive, aggressive, direct, and sharper to drive while the new BRZ feels smoother, steadier, more controllable and easier to live with every day, although both are super exciting, well balanced and highly sophisticated as modern FR sports cars, well surpassing the 1st gens. The 86 is for dynamic track racing and pure FR drifting fun just like the iconic name suggests. BRZ is for high speed grand touring with planted-on-the-road feeling as if it's an advanced AWD sports car.
思ったより音がいい。スタイリングの違いは好みが分かれる。brzのフロントの方が好きかな。
最終的に値段が気になる。上がるんだろーな〜
86はGRブランド用に、もりぞうさんの最終判断で足回り硬くしてピーキーにしただけだろうな。
価格が気になるところ。330万円位か？
インプレッションありがとうございました。
と言うことは突き上げや振動とか、疲れにくさとかはBRZの方がマシになりますか？
Idk what you're saying but I understand the engine sound.
ahah 😄👍
they said the overall feeling is a refined and more natural version of the AE86 which means a sportier variant, and for the BRZ it is a bit more steady feeling stearing and ECU wise. The overall character will be the a bit youthfull feeling would be the toyota, and the more mature GT variant would be the subaru. So, if u wanna drift 86, if u want GT u want BRZ. Sorry for my bad English.
@@shindigfreak5277 Thanks, have a good day !