Honestly, with their nature of their passions, I think Cynthia and Steven would work well together. Steven is after rare stones, and Cynthia loves mythology. Who's to say those two paths couldn't overlap?
I Think Steven And Cynthia Should Get Married!Steven Should Catch Jirachi,And Cynthia Should Also Capture Arceus As Well!They Have Those 2 Mythicals In Romhacks/Randomizers,Make It Canon Game Freak!Koh And Sayo Of Digimon World Dawn/Dusk Would Destroy Them In A Tag Team Battle Though!
I think the reason why Steven stands out among the champions is his character more than anything else. All the others have such intense and outgoing personalities while Steven just seems like kind and thoughtful guy. Hes the only one i feel like i could actually hang out with.
Personally I have my own little head cannon that he and Wallace are meant to be counter parts of one another. The strongest of the land and sea. His team is powerful, yet straight forward. Where as Wallace is also a master coordinator so his other claim to fame is the gen 3 extra gimmick. Steven is is humble and fairly straightforward while Wallace is flamboyant and extravagant.
Reading this makes me think the champion battle in Gen 3 was supposed to be another Tate & Eliza battle (This battle is also in Gen 3) with Wallace and Steven but they ended up scrapping it cuz I guess it seemed too wonky to them but later used it in Emrald in a different way.
Well they been seen together and confirmed Bros, one has Wather the other Rock and Steel who are very strongly connected to the Land, so yeah they both Counterparts who repressent Sea and Land.
All the lore in that game is about duality. Water and earth, Wallace and Steven, even the etymology of their name is meant to reflect that. Also, didn’t Gen 3 introduce double battles?
Steven is my personal favorite champion and I think he ranks up there as one of the more memorable and charismatic ones. He may not have a team as tough as Cynthia’s but it’s far from an underwhelming one. Consistent is probably the best word I can use to describe him since he’s probably the one known champion focused on defense.
the biggest issue with Champions not feeling "as strong as Cynthia" is because, unlike her, Game Freak doesn't EV/IV train their teams. If every Champion's team was EV trained like hers, they'd be far, far more formidable.
@@Tuturial464 thing is it cant be like the anime. Game pokemons dont work like anime and Leons team while being good is just that i e good.. Cynthias team is well crafted with pokemons that shield the others weakness and had pokemons that had no weakness in 2 different generation and is totally iv trained. Even in todays date when the game is so easy with xp share and stuffs Cynthias and Volos team stand out. You need a good plan, a strong team and luck to beat her and even with all these chances are you'll not beat her in the first 3 time. I can just show up with any xyz pokemon team and can guarantee you I'll beat Leon on the first time.
Steven has always been a character I’ve enjoyed seeing. A humble man, who’s proactive and is quite challenging. Every time I see him, I get that feeling you’re seeing a good friend who you know you can have a good time with. I like how he also tried to help during the legendary crisis and meteor crisis in RSE and ORAS. He’s up there with Cynthia and Lance as my favourite champions. Also, his theme is one of my favourites. Also also, in Masters he has a Shiny Rayquaza and now a Deoxys. All the yes!
"Hello, . Have you met Steven? He is… Actually incredibly skilled. However, he's an odd soul who rarely battles. Instead, he would rather look for rare stones. Wallace Match Call Dialogue from Emerald. Imagine Steven actually putting 100 percent his time and effort on just training and battling.
I don’t remember that! That’s pretty adorable. I wish Steven and Wallace’s friendship was more explored in the anime/game. In masters ex you can tell they’re pretty close!
@@lolplzlolplz1 did you even watch the other battles? Diantha vs Lance and Cynthia vs Iris? They followed game logic as well. Ash win because of plot armour
Bruh, why y'all whining about game logic not (always) being followed in the anime? You know it doesn't make sense for the anime (with all the actual battle and some physics applied) to fully follow the over-simplistic mechanics of the games, right? Call it plot armor if you like, but if you're watching the anime and expect the game logic to always be applicable, then idk why you're bothering.
Dracovish did some serious damage out of the gate with fishious rend to the point where Steven felt the need to call it back, and Pikachu knocked it out with Iron Tail after the Z-move plowed it into the ground.
Steven is one of the champions that could have been a traveling companion for ash since he has those other interests. He’d be able to search for fossils in every region he goes to with Ash while also being a very good mentor to Ash too.
5:14 It does sorta explain that. He left the pokemon league to pursue his archeology. He did not lose to Wallace. Also in the remake ruby sapphire, Wallace says that he (Wallace) WAS the champion who lost to Steven. So i just assume Wallace is filling in sinxe he was the previous champion
I honestly love Steven Stone. And I feel like we’d be good friends (well if he existed and if I was around the same age as him) as I also love cool ass rocks. Hell I have a bookshelf that is mostly designated for figurines and rocks. 4/6 shelves are for rock display. While I don’t have a lot of rare stuff, I have some neat things like cracked open geodes. I even have some geodes that me and my stepdad found in Spearfish Canyon.
i love steven like he is just so cool & has that nonchalant rich boy attitude definitely one of my fav pokemon characters if i had to rank a champions list it would definitely be: 1. Cynthia 2. Steven 3. Lance ……the rest
I think they missed a huge opportunity between Gen 4 thru 7. We should have had a Steel type that evolves with a Fire Stone. In Gen 3, Ash and Co. met Steven in Dewford Cave, and at the end of the Episode Steven found what he was (I believe) looking for... a Fire Stone. Why would Steven want a Fire Stone? Well, maybe in Ash and Steven's Quarter Final Masters 8 Coronation Series Match, Steven would use this Steel/Fire Type, and Steven could then reference, "Ash, you remember the Fire Stone I collected back in Dewford Cave? This is the reason I was looking for it!" That would have been an incredible Full Circle Plot moment, and give more significance and connection to Ash and Steven's past together, as well as make that Dewford Cave Episode gain alot more meaning!
Steven has always been one of my favorite characters in Pokémon since Gen 3 came out. I would love to see more of him on his rare stones search. Maybe they could have us partner up with him through one of the caves or find him for a special battle in the future.
wouldve been better if he actually figured out a way to start hitting metagross then used the Zmove for the finish bc he knew it would hit now with what he learned. instead it was "wow Pikachu is getting his cheeks clapped let me yolo my Zmove"
I personally love Steven. He is my Favorite Champion, and where other poketubers, cough cough PurpleCliffe, have a crush/simp for Cynthia i do that for Steven. Also helps that he's a steel type specialist which is one of my favorite typings and his ace is Metagross which is my favorite Psuedo Legendary and my favorite steel type along with Lucario. I do agree that he is underrepresented and almost underrated compared to Cynthia
Bruh steven got disrespected in journeys that was a mega metagross before to beat a metagross by hitting it at a single point to be able to even damage it
Ash vs Steven was rushed. a 2nd episode would have made things better. Made Pikachu seem too strong and that shiny mega evolved Metagross look weak going down that way.
I also believe Steen Stones is a mighty gentleman and deserves his spot in the Bronze place in the Masters 8. He might not have as a diverse team as Cythina, but his ace is Uber. He needs more screen time like when he was gonna beat, Alain. As mentioned though, the two might make a good pair.
I always thought of Steven not being champion in Emerald was him trying to find him self like he gets burned out like he not entirely sure what he wants and after years of thinking or seeing the word battle reined his fire to battle again
my battle with Steven was hard. my team was way under leveled. his Cradily vs my Lairon was the final show down, and i stalled him until it struggled and lost HP and finally an iron tail landed. i think Stevens team isnt so much Steel based as it is based around his findings as most if not all of his team are fossil or cave or ancient pokemon, except Skarmory. but they did him dirty in the anime, and the battle conductor dropped the ball. for all the focus on Gengar learning WilloWisp, they had him defesated Via Z move? not Gengar and his willowisp and a Gmax? and even Lucario was left out. it was just weak.
Journey's didn't do Steven justice. His Aggron is his second ace and they allowed it and his ace to go down like a scrub. This why wanted the battles to be 6 v 6. Every battle is rushed.
Mystic! Love your video’s! Keep up the good work! I would love to see a teambuilding video about steven stone his team. He is still my favourite character and I’m very curious how you would build a team with all of his mon’s incluiding movesets.
He Honestly Have A Unique Style Of Gaining Strength. Compared To Other Trainer, Instead Of Training Your Pokemon And Fight Various Trainer. Steven Instead Travel Through Regions For Stones And Gain Experiences While Exploring, He Even Discover A Stone By His Own And It's Called Metagrossite, Metagrossite Gave Metagross An Access To Mega Evolution Which is A Huge Gains. In Recent Episode 119 Pokemon Journey , I Felt Like Pokemon Slept On Steven Strength.
I just know the reason why I like Steven is because he was hard to battle, but a win against him was pretty rewarding. (i went in with a crappy team when i was a child, lol) plus I had a crush on him. same thing with cynthia.
I think he’s only popular because this is gen 8 , and he’s one of the few champions that have a diverse team . Once we get to gen 9, then we will forget about him
N is technically a champion since he defeated Alder in an official league battle. I know he's not "evil," but he's still the leader of Team Plasma. Edit: Wait, you meant having the present Champion be the secret leader of the organization, in which case, N is kind of the opposite. Nevermind.
Ash vs Steven was pretty controversial lol. I loved it, but I acknowledge that it was flawed and rushed. As for how strong he is, I think the Ash vs Steven fight if anything elevated my view of him. He's a triple type specialist, and he knows how to play offensively and defensively. Sadly, he doesn't really have pokemon that can play both which might contribute to why he's always viewed as a step below Cynthia. Still, he's probably my second favorite champion of all time, right after Cynthia. There's other champions that could claim that spot, but I'll give the edge to him for style points lol
His Metagross is able to play both offensively and defensivley, and he does that pretty well. Very Tanky and Powerful at once. Also becomes very fast once in mega form
@@ludwig-alice You are right, and Aggron can play both as well to an extent. I duno, I guess with Garchomp, Milotic, Togekiss, and Spiritomb, Cynthia plays both better? Or maybe we just all struggled with Cynthia more since she's not a type specialist, and that's why we view her as stronger lol
It's important to remember that plot armor is a thing. If pokemon journeys focused on stephen stone then stephen would win but this is all about ash and he'll end up battling leon and either winning or at least tieing with leon
While I never really struggled against Steven since I always use either Blaziken or swampert no matter the gen, I definitely enjoy him as a character and always appreciate steel specialists, from jasmine to peony, all steel specialists are welcome
How the hell is Leon ranked above Steven. Leon dresses like a 5 year old man child. Steven is actually charismatic, well dressed, and carries himself like a gentleman. Leon over here whipping his cape around like a toddler
I find his metagross in ORAS to be somewhat of a downgrade. Yeah it has a mega now and zen headbutt is good with Metagross. But why does it have two steel moves and Giga Impact? Just keep one and get rid of Giga Impact for better moves for example Ice punch or Rock Slide.
I think he should’ve lost to Steven bc he almost lost to iris but plot armor I assume Cynthia is gonna lose bc plot armor he won again a legendary tapu koko through plot armor like damn if he didn’t have plot armor he would’ve lost so many battles🙄
@@Alexgodofwar5662 ash does have plot armour, pikachu loses to spritiomb in Cynthia battle leak but can defeat mega metagross with an ineffective steel type move? Yeah, plot armour
The fact that Leon is #2 is disgusting. He's my least favorite of all time. Anyways, Steven is my favorite champion. I love his team as well as his role in the story of Gen 3. I was so surprised and invigorated when he turned out to be the champion. I'll never forget that feeling.
@@SpiritedFalcon So as someone who also doesn't favor Leon very much, why is it so weird that someone see's his popularity as odd and revolting? It's not about people having a different opinion. 😂
Well not hard to see where the writers got the master 8 roster from. All they had to do was pick which rival was going to represent blue as Gary was not going to take part in the masters 8.
Why is Leon that popular? Like, legitimately. As a Leon hater (and no, not because of his popularity) I certainly cannot see him in any possible positive light. Iris is more likable than Leon, and I don't exactly care for her either.
@@Alexgodofwar5662 Yeah, in circumstances that either any other Trainer can deal with or he just completely fails. Also, he doesn't act in the post game of SwSh. The most he does is act like a police officer. In most other games, a champion either isn't present at the time or is present but is also a mediator. For example, Cynthia. In Platinum, she goes into the Distortion World and tries to talk down Cyrus when you come along and Cyrus forces you into battle. Also, Lance helped by taking down Team Rocket's operation in Mahogany Town because they are actively harming the ecosystem. Most other times it's either because the Teams are doing something in secret or because the Trainer is there before the Champion can get there. Plus, the Champion isn't supposed to be the guardian of that region but another Trainer in the defending force. Also, the Trainer is the one putting in the work to pass every roadblock, including the Champion. If I see a Champion battle and attempt to catch a legendary (in a damned Pokeball) that lessens the intensity of the situation because than the situation boils down to "Hey, I weakened it, your turn." Basically passing the responsibility onto us when the responsibility, as an aspiring Trainer, should be ours. Example, when you get to Plasma Castle in Black and White, the Gym Leaders take on the Sages, telling you to go on ahead to face the bigger challenge and threat. It isn't Alder battling Ghetsis, losing, and telling you to take the reins. You fought against and alongside the Gym Leaders, you know their strength, and their capabilities. The Champion isn't supposed to be a character that's taking care of the problems that you can take care of by yourself, they're supposed to be your final challenge and roadblock to being the greatest Trainer in the region. Seeing Leon completely flop against Eternatus just makes me think "This guy is going to be more of a pushover than his brother." And honestly, he was!...... Anyways, I'm done with my rant.
This is the guy that when we first seen him he chewed out team rocket for disturbing the pokemon IN the cave and then proceeds to flash cannon them thru said cave wall/ceiling??? Yeah.
Steven has to many rock types in his team, Mega Agron is a better choice because Metagross is already a great Pokémon by itself, Steven deserves a Flygon in his team.
I think that Steven is a strong trainer and would be on par with Cynthia I thought Ash vs Steven was good Steven proves to be a real Challenge for Ash and Through Ash struggles in the battle Ash was able to win and Pikachu takes the win by beating two of Steven’s a Pokemon and Defeats his third Metagross and another win against a Mega evolved pokemon.
that battle was awsome. when pikachu took down steven's last pokemon. i had a rush of eutosisme, like when i take down a raid boss for the first time. amazing battle, wel exsecuted. and defently rewatch worthy.
Steven is my favorite champion. In my personal headcanon he should have a Diancie. It would fit him so well as a rare stone collector, and also his friendly/likeable demeanor, which would probably describe Diancie well too. He already has a Carbink, which is similar to Diancie but just weaker, so Diancie would fit in very well.
Lance probably would've been a bit more popular (or stronger at least) if he were given a Tyranitar (since he's rather a trainer who uses pokénon with dragon-like appearances than simply a dragon master) and Kingdra. This would've made his team more challenging since one cannot truly/realistically be champion unless you use various types or all of them.
ASH WON BECAUSE OF PLOT ARMOUR. DIANTHA V LANCE AND CYNTHIA V IRIS FOLLOWED GAME LOGIC. STEVEN SHOULD HAVE WON… but the writers had other plans. They should have made Lance lose to him. Lance fucking sucks.
He is tough for sure. You think hey he is a "steel" trainer ima use fire. Barley any good fire in gen 3. Blaziken is weak im some way to all of his pokemon. For a region being full of water types trying to exploit that weakness is not guaranteed victory
MysticUmbreon I need help! I forgot to grab a Cleffa for Shining Pearl and now I would need to grind tons for it catch up with my team! What Pokemon do I replace Clefairy with? Please tell me!
Steven interacted with Ash how many times during the Hoenn journey? I recall like once. Cynthia interacted throughout Sinnoh then met up in Unova. She had a much bigger impact on Ash's improvement. She always held people accountable. Steven was no where to be found when team magma and aqua fought with ancient legends threatening to destroy everything...we had Lance as a G Man Champions are supposed to be role models for trainers, Cynthia did her job. Most of the others fail at this.
@@kevinzhang9591 Oh I agree. If I was talking about the anime. I’m talking about the games Kevin. She doesn’t say anything useful or any standout quotes. Rowan has better character presence, even in Platinum.
Hes high Midtier for me. I recently ranked all the Champs, and for me he was the 5. hardest after the Alola Champ whos obviously us, Cynthia, Red and Green. His Team for the most Part is very very easy. Claydol, Metagross and Craydilly are the only good one. Scarmory is powerfull but easy to conter and he starts whit it. Claydol is strong for tanking a lot and giving Lightscreen Suport. Armaldo and Aggron are slow and easy to oneshot, so they absolutely need Screens to not die imideatly. Craydilly is a Annoyer who realy ripps Holes in your Team, definitly his second most valuable Teammember. Metagross can sweap your team very easily, my Blaziken got outspeed a few Times by it. Its definitly the Pokemon who makes him hard, and it shows.
The battles in journeys are too much like a battle in the games, the pokemon barely dodge and move in order many times so the battle between Ash and Steven was boring, i knew Steven would loose because Ash just had to win to battle Leon too so that didn't help.
Steven Stone immediately wins best champion because he’s the only one with a last name
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ahm...Cynthia Shirona?
@@StrikeCrossoverNexusshirona is her japanese name not her last name….
@@StrikeCrossoverNexus ahm... womp womp
Honestly, with their nature of their passions, I think Cynthia and Steven would work well together. Steven is after rare stones, and Cynthia loves mythology. Who's to say those two paths couldn't overlap?
I Think Steven And Cynthia Should Get Married!Steven Should Catch Jirachi,And Cynthia Should Also Capture Arceus As Well!They Have Those 2 Mythicals In Romhacks/Randomizers,Make It Canon Game Freak!Koh And Sayo Of Digimon World Dawn/Dusk Would Destroy Them In A Tag Team Battle Though!
Man, I was hoping SO MUCH they would match them in recent Journeys so we could see who would fare better.
I think the reason why Steven stands out among the champions is his character more than anything else. All the others have such intense and outgoing personalities while Steven just seems like kind and thoughtful guy. Hes the only one i feel like i could actually hang out with.
Personally I have my own little head cannon that he and Wallace are meant to be counter parts of one another. The strongest of the land and sea. His team is powerful, yet straight forward. Where as Wallace is also a master coordinator so his other claim to fame is the gen 3 extra gimmick. Steven is is humble and fairly straightforward while Wallace is flamboyant and extravagant.
Reading this makes me think the champion battle in Gen 3 was supposed to be another Tate & Eliza battle (This battle is also in Gen 3) with Wallace and Steven but they ended up scrapping it cuz I guess it seemed too wonky to them but later used it in Emrald in a different way.
Well they been seen together and confirmed Bros, one has Wather the other Rock and Steel who are very strongly connected to the Land, so yeah they both Counterparts who repressent Sea and Land.
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All the lore in that game is about duality. Water and earth, Wallace and Steven, even the etymology of their name is meant to reflect that. Also, didn’t Gen 3 introduce double battles?
Steven is my personal favorite champion and I think he ranks up there as one of the more memorable and charismatic ones. He may not have a team as tough as Cynthia’s but it’s far from an underwhelming one. Consistent is probably the best word I can use to describe him since he’s probably the one known champion focused on defense.
Cynthia is not that hard, tbh i had a harder time with steven
the biggest issue with Champions not feeling "as strong as Cynthia" is because, unlike her, Game Freak doesn't EV/IV train their teams. If every Champion's team was EV trained like hers, they'd be far, far more formidable.
Then leon would be unbeatable then
@@Alexgodofwar5662 well no lol. Leons team is good and all but its still not like that great. Its average at best.
@@kusholchaudhury31 if it was more like the anime. Then it would be… interesting and better
@@Tuturial464 thing is it cant be like the anime. Game pokemons dont work like anime and Leons team while being good is just that i e good.. Cynthias team is well crafted with pokemons that shield the others weakness and had pokemons that had no weakness in 2 different generation and is totally iv trained. Even in todays date when the game is so easy with xp share and stuffs Cynthias and Volos team stand out. You need a good plan, a strong team and luck to beat her and even with all these chances are you'll not beat her in the first 3 time. I can just show up with any xyz pokemon team and can guarantee you I'll beat Leon on the first time.
@@kusholchaudhury31 in Steven team only Cradily and metagross are good
Steven has always been a character I’ve enjoyed seeing. A humble man, who’s proactive and is quite challenging. Every time I see him, I get that feeling you’re seeing a good friend who you know you can have a good time with. I like how he also tried to help during the legendary crisis and meteor crisis in RSE and ORAS.
He’s up there with Cynthia and Lance as my favourite champions. Also, his theme is one of my favourites. Also also, in Masters he has a Shiny Rayquaza and now a Deoxys.
All the yes!
And he also looks cool
On the topic of Masters, he and his Metagross were blessed by Arceus. So yeah.
"Hello, . Have you met Steven? He is… Actually incredibly skilled. However, he's an odd soul who rarely battles. Instead, he would rather look for rare stones. Wallace Match Call Dialogue from Emerald.
Imagine Steven actually putting 100 percent his time and effort on just training and battling.
I don’t remember that! That’s pretty adorable. I wish Steven and Wallace’s friendship was more explored in the anime/game. In masters ex you can tell they’re pretty close!
Cynthia: Is daddy's boy still unmarried?
Steven: Who needs women when you have rocks?
Minerals.
Did this quote really happen? or is it just a meme
@@Imanifestchaos a meme...I think
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Should I point out how lucy steven from the movie looks like a mix of both
Anime didn't do Steven justice.Mega metagross was crushing Pikachu with two strong hits but one non super effective Z move took him down
very funny, trying to apply game logic to the anime
@@lolplzlolplz1 did you even watch the other battles? Diantha vs Lance and Cynthia vs Iris? They followed game logic as well. Ash win because of plot armour
@@roycefernandes9884 Excadrill vs muddy water was totally game logic.
Bruh, why y'all whining about game logic not (always) being followed in the anime? You know it doesn't make sense for the anime (with all the actual battle and some physics applied) to fully follow the over-simplistic mechanics of the games, right? Call it plot armor if you like, but if you're watching the anime and expect the game logic to always be applicable, then idk why you're bothering.
Dracovish did some serious damage out of the gate with fishious rend to the point where Steven felt the need to call it back, and Pikachu knocked it out with Iron Tail after the Z-move plowed it into the ground.
Steven is one of my favorite champions and characters indeed. Gotta admire his desire not to sit around in one place!
Same here
Steven should be in the Masters Tournament Semifinal right now.
Steven is one of the champions that could have been a traveling companion for ash since he has those other interests. He’d be able to search for fossils in every region he goes to with Ash while also being a very good mentor to Ash too.
Steven is the new brock😆
I can't imagine Steven cooking like Brock did lol
I just now realized that Steven's cool pairing of power & mystery is what they were trying to replicate with Diantha.
5:14
It does sorta explain that.
He left the pokemon league to pursue his archeology. He did not lose to Wallace.
Also in the remake ruby sapphire, Wallace says that he (Wallace) WAS the champion who lost to Steven.
So i just assume Wallace is filling in sinxe he was the previous champion
I honestly love Steven Stone. And I feel like we’d be good friends (well if he existed and if I was around the same age as him) as I also love cool ass rocks. Hell I have a bookshelf that is mostly designated for figurines and rocks. 4/6 shelves are for rock display. While I don’t have a lot of rare stuff, I have some neat things like cracked open geodes. I even have some geodes that me and my stepdad found in Spearfish Canyon.
Definitely have Steven as the #2 behind Cynthia as champions in the anime.
i love steven like he is just so cool & has that nonchalant rich boy attitude definitely one of my fav pokemon characters
if i had to rank a champions list it would definitely be:
1. Cynthia
2. Steven
3. Lance
……the rest
Same
I I literally love Steven and Cynthia are so strong and they are very influential in the storyline of the games
I think they missed a huge opportunity between Gen 4 thru 7. We should have had a Steel type that evolves with a Fire Stone. In Gen 3, Ash and Co. met Steven in Dewford Cave, and at the end of the Episode Steven found what he was (I believe) looking for... a Fire Stone. Why would Steven want a Fire Stone? Well, maybe in Ash and Steven's Quarter Final Masters 8 Coronation Series Match, Steven would use this Steel/Fire Type, and Steven could then reference, "Ash, you remember the Fire Stone I collected back in Dewford Cave? This is the reason I was looking for it!" That would have been an incredible Full Circle Plot moment, and give more significance and connection to Ash and Steven's past together, as well as make that Dewford Cave Episode gain alot more meaning!
It’s not Fire/Steel but Hisuian Arcanine is Fire/Rock. That could’ve fit with Steven’s rare stone/fossil collecting gimmick
I believe steven just like collecting rocks lol
Steven has always been one of my favorite characters in Pokémon since Gen 3 came out. I would love to see more of him on his rare stones search. Maybe they could have us partner up with him through one of the caves or find him for a special battle in the future.
they did my boy Steven and his Metagross dirty in the masters tournament i was so sad.
Dirty? He was wiping the Floor with ash until ash use is zmove
@@Alexgodofwar5662 exactly, pikachu couldnt touch it then all of sudden OHKOd by the Z-move lame (i know Dracovish got some damage in but still)
@@ravensirony8415 it wasn't ohko by the z move metagross fall to the ground and ash finished with iron tail
@@Alexgodofwar5662 yeah bc a non stab resisted irontail makes for a great finish...horrible writing.
wouldve been better if he actually figured out a way to start hitting metagross then used the Zmove for the finish bc he knew it would hit now with what he learned. instead it was "wow Pikachu is getting his cheeks clapped let me yolo my Zmove"
I personally love Steven. He is my Favorite Champion, and where other poketubers, cough cough PurpleCliffe, have a crush/simp for Cynthia i do that for Steven. Also helps that he's a steel type specialist which is one of my favorite typings and his ace is Metagross which is my favorite Psuedo Legendary and my favorite steel type along with Lucario. I do agree that he is underrepresented and almost underrated compared to Cynthia
I also like Steven (no homo)
Bruh steven got disrespected in journeys that was a mega metagross before to beat a metagross by hitting it at a single point to be able to even damage it
Ash vs Steven was rushed. a 2nd episode would have made things better. Made Pikachu seem too strong and that shiny mega evolved Metagross look weak going down that way.
I also believe Steen Stones is a mighty gentleman and deserves his spot in the Bronze place in the Masters 8. He might not have as a diverse team as Cythina, but his ace is Uber. He needs more screen time like when he was gonna beat, Alain. As mentioned though, the two might make a good pair.
I always thought of Steven not being champion in Emerald was him trying to find him self like he gets burned out like he not entirely sure what he wants and after years of thinking or seeing the word battle reined his fire to battle again
A winner of what-?
my battle with Steven was hard. my team was way under leveled. his Cradily vs my Lairon was the final show down, and i stalled him until it struggled and lost HP and finally an iron tail landed. i think Stevens team isnt so much Steel based as it is based around his findings as most if not all of his team are fossil or cave or ancient pokemon, except Skarmory. but they did him dirty in the anime, and the battle conductor dropped the ball. for all the focus on Gengar learning WilloWisp, they had him defesated Via Z move? not Gengar and his willowisp and a Gmax? and even Lucario was left out. it was just weak.
Apparently Steven used his game lines after Ash beat him, I felt that was interesting.
Journey's didn't do Steven justice. His Aggron is his second ace and they allowed it and his ace to go down like a scrub. This why wanted the battles to be 6 v 6. Every battle is rushed.
Way too rushed. Its terrible
We're getting 6v6's now, atleast.
well its all build up to the so hyped Ash vs Leon fight
so prob ...Ash will super easy win against cynthia too ...
Ash wins just because of plot armour
@@arpanpal4253 no he doesn't win with plot armor ash hater
Mystic! Love your video’s! Keep up the good work!
I would love to see a teambuilding video about steven stone his team. He is still my favourite character and I’m very curious how you would build a team with all of his mon’s incluiding movesets.
He Honestly Have A Unique Style Of Gaining Strength. Compared To Other Trainer, Instead Of Training Your Pokemon And Fight Various Trainer. Steven Instead Travel Through Regions For Stones And Gain Experiences While Exploring, He Even Discover A Stone By His Own And It's Called Metagrossite, Metagrossite Gave Metagross An Access To Mega Evolution Which is A Huge Gains. In Recent Episode 119 Pokemon Journey , I Felt Like Pokemon Slept On Steven Strength.
I just know the reason why I like Steven is because he was hard to battle, but a win against him was pretty rewarding. (i went in with a crappy team when i was a child, lol)
plus I had a crush on him. same thing with cynthia.
That cradily was the most annoying pokemon when I battle him. His metagross wasn't a big deal for my mega swamp
Cradily was always a victim of my Kyogre's Sheer Cold back in Sapphire.
Really? I didn't think Leon was that popular.
Me neither I think he kinda lame tbh
What's more lame than a guy with an embarrassing to even look at pose.... An electric mouse with a hat beating 700BST pseudo legendary
Me neither didn't really like him like other champions
I think he’s only popular because this is gen 8 , and he’s one of the few champions that have a diverse team . Once we get to gen 9, then we will forget about him
Dawg he has a Charizard. There are a lot of weebs who will like him for that alone
Would have been funny if Steven was in Scarlet and Violet because of the terracrystalize mechanic
I’m wishing the champion in scarlet and violet is a female we need more female champions.
We have 3 in rows so 3 boys now
Why do you care so much
@@antonioiniguez1615 need to give the females a chance
@@thomasjohnson8391 it's a game my guy😐
@@antonioiniguez1615 yes I know
I wish they would make a villain champion. He would be the shadow leader of the evil team. Maybe he created it just so he can be a hero.
Well, at least the closest we got is Volo, and there's not even a League during his time XD
The closest we've gotten in a long time is Malva; and, c'mon.
N is technically a champion since he defeated Alder in an official league battle. I know he's not "evil," but he's still the leader of Team Plasma.
Edit: Wait, you meant having the present Champion be the secret leader of the organization, in which case, N is kind of the opposite. Nevermind.
Closest ones we got are N when he defeated Alder in Black/White and Volo in Legends: Arceus.
Uhh. N?!
Ash vs Steven was pretty controversial lol. I loved it, but I acknowledge that it was flawed and rushed. As for how strong he is, I think the Ash vs Steven fight if anything elevated my view of him. He's a triple type specialist, and he knows how to play offensively and defensively. Sadly, he doesn't really have pokemon that can play both which might contribute to why he's always viewed as a step below Cynthia. Still, he's probably my second favorite champion of all time, right after Cynthia. There's other champions that could claim that spot, but I'll give the edge to him for style points lol
His Metagross is able to play both offensively and defensivley, and he does that pretty well. Very Tanky and Powerful at once. Also becomes very fast once in mega form
@@ludwig-alice You are right, and Aggron can play both as well to an extent. I duno, I guess with Garchomp, Milotic, Togekiss, and Spiritomb, Cynthia plays both better? Or maybe we just all struggled with Cynthia more since she's not a type specialist, and that's why we view her as stronger lol
It's important to remember that plot armor is a thing. If pokemon journeys focused on stephen stone then stephen would win but this is all about ash and he'll end up battling leon and either winning or at least tieing with leon
While I never really struggled against Steven since I always use either Blaziken or swampert no matter the gen, I definitely enjoy him as a character and always appreciate steel specialists, from jasmine to peony, all steel specialists are welcome
Steven has always been my favorite character
How the hell is Leon ranked above Steven. Leon dresses like a 5 year old man child. Steven is actually charismatic, well dressed, and carries himself like a gentleman. Leon over here whipping his cape around like a toddler
Because at least Leon takes care for is region unlike Steven when Groudon and kyogre attack hoenn he wasn't no we're to be found
@@Alexgodofwar5662 In Manga he did. Much more than Leon
@@ludwig-alice manga anime and games are not the samr
Aside from battle, how great does he look. 😅💕 Probably one of the most handsome and cool looking character
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I remember when my lv 20+ Shedinja beating Steven's Metagross in Sapphire once Steven beaten most of my team.
Love the video and keep up the great work
In the manga Wallace won the league but didnt want to be champ leaving the title to Steven who came second
I find his metagross in ORAS to be somewhat of a downgrade. Yeah it has a mega now and zen headbutt is good with Metagross. But why does it have two steel moves and Giga Impact? Just keep one and get rid of Giga Impact for better moves for example Ice punch or Rock Slide.
The Giga impact destroys so much, and bullet punch has priority. I think it’s a good moveset, but it could be better. If it isn’t broken, don’t fix it
I think he should’ve lost to Steven bc he almost lost to iris but plot armor I assume Cynthia is gonna lose bc plot armor he won again a legendary tapu koko through plot armor like damn if he didn’t have plot armor he would’ve lost so many battles🙄
Nah ash is more stronger than the protagonist of each game expect red also ash doesn't have plot armor I don't know what you mean ash hater
@@Alexgodofwar5662 ash does have plot armour, pikachu loses to spritiomb in Cynthia battle leak but can defeat mega metagross with an ineffective steel type move? Yeah, plot armour
The fact that Leon is #2 is disgusting. He's my least favorite of all time. Anyways, Steven is my favorite champion. I love his team as well as his role in the story of Gen 3. I was so surprised and invigorated when he turned out to be the champion. I'll never forget that feeling.
"eVeRy1 sHoUld HaVe sAmE oPinIoN a$ mE 🤡🤓"
@@SpiritedFalcon Found the Leon stan. It's okay, buddy. You can come clean 😂
@@dantelan-i-er5466
1. Cynthia
2. Steven
3. Lance
4. Alder
5. Iris
6. Leon
7. Diantha
So no, I don't like Leon, smarta$$, lmfao.
@@SpiritedFalcon So as someone who also doesn't favor Leon very much, why is it so weird that someone see's his popularity as odd and revolting? It's not about people having a different opinion. 😂
@@dantelan-i-er5466 ok mb, sorry for being rude.
Don't forget Steven's Mega Metagross threw hands with Primal Kyogre in the anime, and did really well
FSG: How GOOD was Steven ACTUALLY?
I want Cynthia and Steven to get married. The union of the two most powerful champions. ❤
Well not hard to see where the writers got the master 8 roster from. All they had to do was pick which rival was going to represent blue as Gary was not going to take part in the masters 8.
Best looking male champion forsure
When I first played gen 3 he was the first difficult person I fought. And I like a good challenge
Yu should have considered pokemon masters EX also where he has a shiny mega raquaza
Ash should *NOT* have won, total BS
He should've won, but in a deserving way.
Why is Leon that popular? Like, legitimately. As a Leon hater (and no, not because of his popularity) I certainly cannot see him in any possible positive light. Iris is more likable than Leon, and I don't exactly care for her either.
Has a cool design, more screen time than other champions, Charizard
@@everyonesidol9731 Debatable. Does nothing with it. Imo, a very overrated Pokemon.
Because Leon actually acts when the region is in danger unlike the other champions
@@Alexgodofwar5662 Yeah, in circumstances that either any other Trainer can deal with or he just completely fails. Also, he doesn't act in the post game of SwSh. The most he does is act like a police officer. In most other games, a champion either isn't present at the time or is present but is also a mediator. For example, Cynthia. In Platinum, she goes into the Distortion World and tries to talk down Cyrus when you come along and Cyrus forces you into battle. Also, Lance helped by taking down Team Rocket's operation in Mahogany Town because they are actively harming the ecosystem. Most other times it's either because the Teams are doing something in secret or because the Trainer is there before the Champion can get there. Plus, the Champion isn't supposed to be the guardian of that region but another Trainer in the defending force. Also, the Trainer is the one putting in the work to pass every roadblock, including the Champion. If I see a Champion battle and attempt to catch a legendary (in a damned Pokeball) that lessens the intensity of the situation because than the situation boils down to "Hey, I weakened it, your turn." Basically passing the responsibility onto us when the responsibility, as an aspiring Trainer, should be ours. Example, when you get to Plasma Castle in Black and White, the Gym Leaders take on the Sages, telling you to go on ahead to face the bigger challenge and threat. It isn't Alder battling Ghetsis, losing, and telling you to take the reins. You fought against and alongside the Gym Leaders, you know their strength, and their capabilities. The Champion isn't supposed to be a character that's taking care of the problems that you can take care of by yourself, they're supposed to be your final challenge and roadblock to being the greatest Trainer in the region. Seeing Leon completely flop against Eternatus just makes me think "This guy is going to be more of a pushover than his brother." And honestly, he was!...... Anyways, I'm done with my rant.
@@crynosinso8324 leon literally went toe to toe with eternatus lol
This is the guy that when we first seen him he chewed out team rocket for disturbing the pokemon IN the cave and then proceeds to flash cannon them thru said cave wall/ceiling??? Yeah.
One thing to say...He is most handsome man in the anime 😍
Love to see how Strong is Champion Iris 🥰
Nice video mystic
Steven has to many rock types in his team, Mega Agron is a better choice because Metagross is already a great Pokémon by itself, Steven deserves a Flygon in his team.
Flygon is dragon/ground not rock
You know on paper he can demolish Cynthia. And Lance can demolish both of these 2 trainers with his best team
I think that Steven is a strong trainer and would be on par with Cynthia I thought Ash vs Steven was good Steven proves to be a real Challenge for Ash and Through Ash struggles in the battle Ash was able to win and Pikachu takes the win by beating two of Steven’s a Pokemon and Defeats his third Metagross and another win against a Mega evolved pokemon.
Certainly my favourite champion
Same, but not Cynthia
that battle was awsome.
when pikachu took down steven's last pokemon.
i had a rush of eutosisme, like when i take down a raid boss for the first time.
amazing battle, wel exsecuted.
and defently rewatch worthy.
So strong he can snap me in half. And I’d let him. ;)
Can you please show me the Top ten non legendary ghost type Pokemon this week's Saturday? I want to know the Pokemon in the list
Steven is my favorite champion. In my personal headcanon he should have a Diancie. It would fit him so well as a rare stone collector, and also his friendly/likeable demeanor, which would probably describe Diancie well too. He already has a Carbink, which is similar to Diancie but just weaker, so Diancie would fit in very well.
mr ricky rock himself
Bruh i started with emerald when i fought him he was a man i couldnt beat. Hardest fight i have EVER PLAYED
He was bored and wanted to look for rocks
Same for me
Lance probably would've been a bit more popular (or stronger at least) if he were given a Tyranitar (since he's rather a trainer who uses pokénon with dragon-like appearances than simply a dragon master) and Kingdra. This would've made his team more challenging since one cannot truly/realistically be champion unless you use various types or all of them.
Why you didn't mention his B2W2 and ORAS Rematch Teams?
ASH WON BECAUSE OF PLOT ARMOUR. DIANTHA V LANCE AND CYNTHIA V IRIS FOLLOWED GAME LOGIC. STEVEN SHOULD HAVE WON… but the writers had other plans. They should have made Lance lose to him. Lance fucking sucks.
Calm down. you learn your lesson is always let Ash to win not his rivals and greninja can't learn the move revenge!
@@tereseclarefrontuna4178 please work on your grammar. I have no idea how to interpret this comment.
@@solidmetagross by revenge he means the move bide and ash can't lose unless is a plot armor devices (Alain for example)
Why am I here? In short, I love Steven Stone
As I battle Steven stone myself in alpha sapphire he ain’t no pushover
Yup, he should be #1 and not Cynthia
Okay please tell me I'm not the only one who just found out he is the son of the owner of the Devon cooperation😂😭
He has most drip
How exactly do you get the teams for your best team videos?
In the manga he had the ability to control SIX legendary Pokémon.
steven stone is the chadsest of all chads in chadsville
He is tough for sure. You think hey he is a "steel" trainer ima use fire. Barley any good fire in gen 3. Blaziken is weak im some way to all of his pokemon. For a region being full of water types trying to exploit that weakness is not guaranteed victory
They plot powered Ash to the win
MysticUmbreon I need help! I forgot to grab a Cleffa for Shining Pearl and now I would need to grind tons for it catch up with my team! What Pokemon do I replace Clefairy with? Please tell me!
Gardevoir
@@Alexgodofwar5662 Thanks
Steven Stone is one of my favorite characters and my favorite Pokémon is Metagross
Gotta agree, Steven is a tough one. Gotta be wary of a battle with this guy.
It’s safe to say Steven stone dual type trainer
Steel and rock
He has 3 rock and 3 steel type Pokémon
And Aggron fits him so well
in Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire, i though Steven was Old man lol
Steven is better than Cynthia. At least he has a personality
Steven interacted with Ash how many times during the Hoenn journey? I recall like once.
Cynthia interacted throughout Sinnoh then met up in Unova. She had a much bigger impact on Ash's improvement. She always held people accountable. Steven was no where to be found when team magma and aqua fought with ancient legends threatening to destroy everything...we had Lance as a G Man
Champions are supposed to be role models for trainers, Cynthia did her job. Most of the others fail at this.
@@kevinzhang9591 Oh I agree.
If I was talking about the anime. I’m talking about the games Kevin. She doesn’t say anything useful or any standout quotes. Rowan has better character presence, even in Platinum.
@@kevinzhang9591 Leon doesn't fail at this Leon was defending the region when eternatus attack
Steven being defeated in the championship cup makes Ash the new Hoenn Champion?
That guy is soooo easy to beat.
So since Ketchum beat him
Is he weaker than Ketchum now?
Yes, even Cynthia will most likely lose.
Hes high Midtier for me. I recently ranked all the Champs, and for me he was the 5. hardest after the Alola Champ whos obviously us, Cynthia, Red and Green.
His Team for the most Part is very very easy. Claydol, Metagross and Craydilly are the only good one.
Scarmory is powerfull but easy to conter and he starts whit it. Claydol is strong for tanking a lot and giving Lightscreen Suport. Armaldo and Aggron are slow and easy to oneshot, so they absolutely need Screens to not die imideatly. Craydilly is a Annoyer who realy ripps Holes in your Team, definitly his second most valuable Teammember.
Metagross can sweap your team very easily, my Blaziken got outspeed a few Times by it. Its definitly the Pokemon who makes him hard, and it shows.
bruh he just got wrecked first round of the champions tournament thooooo
The battles in journeys are too much like a battle in the games, the pokemon barely dodge and move in order many times so the battle between Ash and Steven was boring, i knew Steven would loose because Ash just had to win to battle Leon too so that didn't help.
A better champion than Wallace
He is my favourite Pokemon character 😍
Short answer. Strong.