The next video will be of the recovery. I wanted to have it in it's own video because it's very detailed, very good, went very well and it's an important part of the story to emphasize. Also, I didn't want this video to be 30 minutes. :)
Jason honest opinion i think you still need to get a good used land cruiser with the weight you guys put on that v6, its a reliable suv but maybe consider professional weight analysis of your total gross weight?
Mate I feel for you, that is any 4 wheel drivers nightmare, it scares me to even think about putting a ding in a panel, glad you and the kids are OK. And that can happen to the best of us, have a look on you tube for a couple of blokes who do a show called All4adventure, the put a 70 series land cruiser on its side and 4x4 is what they do for a living
Great to be a part of the trip! Thanks so much for highlighting the importance of picking up after yourself and leaving every place better than you found it. Encouraging me to make a video on the topic myself. Stay tuned!
"It's ok Dad, Sometimes things happens in life that makes you say swear words" lol I Love it. Im glad that everyone is ok! Can't wait for the second video
Not an easy thing to display your mistakes for all the world to see. I have video of me making a stupid move on Elephant Hill and wrecking my truck that I haven't dared watch yet - too traumatic - let alone share with others. But seeing you embrace this and share it and open yourself up for others to potentially criticize is very admirable, and a great example. Deconstructing these episodes are how we progress, get better, and become more skilled. It's one reason why I continue to follow and get so much out of your videos. Hats off to you, and thanks.
Hi Jason - I watched this first with LLOD and had to see what your video had. Flopping or rolling any unit is not great. Damage, safety, embarrassment and frustration - a lot of emotion takes over quickly. You were definitely stressed as I could observe by your body language and accelerated speech - I can relate! In fact I recognized that you were in a level of SHOCK as noted by a few of your actions and nothing to be ashamed of. Shows your sincerity and concern. Shock comes from elevated stresses - not just injuries and something to be mindful of. Minor damage, no one hurt, and didn't ruin anyone's day. Well maybe yours but look at the positives - great crew you were with and a safe extraction. My compliments to the group for a well thought out and executed recovery - safe, no unnecessary damages, and back on the track. They also were great at spotting and helping throughout. If anything to be learned it is to walk the tough sections of the track ahead of time and learn to recognize the hazards - keep exploring and again my compliments to the whole crew!
Glad that everyone's ok, I think it's very kind of you to share such an emotional experience with your followers, most are eager to share the great experiences, but aren't as willing to share the "Not so good experiences" In many ways this will help others to understand that everything has it's limitations. Been following you for awhile and now you've got my wife watching your Vids as well, that means I'm one step closer to getting my Rig! We follow the "Leave it cleaner then you found it" motto as well! Looking forward to the recovery vids! Thanks again and keep doing your thing!
Stuff Happens! Good training for you, perfect spot for it to happen, MUCH better than same type location, only with a thousand foot drop! Glad none of yall were hurt!
This is a great example of why some folks are willing to spend the money they do with the brands they do. Glad no one was hurt. The dings on the Trailer have an awesome story to tell!
Man I hate hate hate that warm slushy snow. My least favorite thing to drive by far. I can drive through 10" of snow at 30° without the slightest wheel slip, but 3" of slush at 42° uphill on an off-camber trail can slide you right off the road. It's sooo slippery and unpredictable, definitely shouldn't feel bad about any mishap in that stuff. I'd have attempted it as well since there were other rigs along to help recover if needed, but when I'm out by myself I don't chance it...even a few inches of warm snow, I turn around and find another route. Had to backtrack four or five times last week trying to find a passable route across a ridgeline due to warm slushy snow that would've been a piece of cake if it had been 15 degrees cooler. Looking forward to the follow up recovery video.
Glad that everyone is ok and that you are sharing your experience with others. I think that there is a lot to reflect and learn from this. Looking forward to the next video(s)!
Hello - I've considered a RTT on my much smaller/lighter trailer. But I wonder if it would be top heavy when sitting atop a 500-lb (empty weight) trailer. My concern was for when we're in the tent or climbing in/out and applying lateral force. But this flop has me wondering. Do you think your load out had any effect on the rollover? Would biasing more weight at the bottom have helped? Not assigning blame, of course. Just searching for a teachable moment. Glad everyone is okay. Take Care! -Scott
You really need to consider it. I had a friend roll his very light trailer a couple years ago as it was very top heavy. He tipped it back and all was fine, but still.
This is the reason why I never understand people taking $20,000-60,000 rigs with $20,000-30,000 trailers off-roading, but then again maybe it's just that I grew up increadibly poor so I really appreciate the money that I have these days. And although I could go buy something pretty new I would rather build something cheap and good, than always worry about scratches and dings and resell value (what is resell value, lol I will drive the wheels right off my xterra.
These things happen jason sometimes at no ones fault. No one was hurt and thats important. Im glad you didnt take lead in the situation. I feel you had to many emotions running through you. Looking forward to the next video
I think you may have gotten bitten by the shadows. You were just mentioning in the video how strong the sun was and how the snow was beginning to melt. Throttling through the dip (in the shade), it seemed like you nailed it perfectly, but the snow conditions likely changed pretty dramatically just after when you were back in the sun. I see this happen a lot where I live. Transitioning back and forth from shade to sun (especially at altitude where the temp differences are stark) can catch people and make them slip or auger in. That was a tricky trail that day.
I don't mean to keep harping on this, but I find it interesting that Mateo and everyone else was informed that they were possibly closing the San Rafael Swell, and there is this effort to clean up other people's garbage before leaving your campsite, which is commendable - but then he goes and defaces public lands after knowing good and well that these areas are at risk. AND THEN he has the guts to claim that they didn't know it was a big deal?
Jason, another awesome video! Seems like there are two stories here; 1. The trailer flip (seems like it could've happened to the best drivers. Glad you guys weren't hurt), and 2. Environmental clean-up and responsibility (LOVE that you're leading by example; going above and beyond by making this a priority--hope you'll include this as a part of some of your future videos). Can't wait for the recovery vid!
Great Video. Snow is unpredictable for sure. Honestly, I usually avoid it and off-camber mud because I have historically been remote and solo and couldn't afford the risks that the unpredictability of snow presents. Great points in your video. Safety should always be paramount. It was touching to see Lilly soothing and reassuring you. Good kids!! Behind the Swell is usually pristine. I don't recall ever seeing trash on the trail or at either the staging area you were at or the campground just to the West.
Unfortunately, most of the closures in Utah right now are due to loss of protection and corporations moving in with leases for resource extraction. It's a great time to see it as you may not be able to soon. Some places have already closed as the MO is to have the company close it "For Your Safety". What a trip! I'm not even going to touch the TCM Beast storm that hit post trip! Hopefully it will serve as a teaching moment regarding the UT desert environment, trail etiquette, educating your group, taking accountability for one's actions and using actions and not just words to respond to controversy.
How did the trailer stay on what kind of hitch did you have I feel like if you had just a ball the trailer would pop off But if you have a pivot hitch it might have been able to stay on other than that I have no idea what kind of hitch you had.
I always assumed I was the main Turtleback Expedition field-use stress tester, especially after our brutal Baja, MX trip last November where all the roads were completely demolished from the hurricane flooding... but I think you just took the top spot. Incredible to see such little damage from such a gnarly looking roll.
Hi Jason awesome video, i just started watching your channel. I love the family camping and trips. Keep up the good work and hobby. Cheers from Cape Town
You're ok, your family is ok, and what was damaged can be fixed or replaced. It sucks to break something you've invested time and money into, but sometimes it happens. While it seems like a bad experience, its something you and your kids will remember forever. Hopefully you'll look back at it and see the good in it. Glad everything worked out!
Saw this on LLOD and almost freaked. Glad you’re OK. You just sold a bunch of Turtle Backs. Anyone who wondered about their build quality, need wonder no more. Thanks for sharing.
Jason, great video . Sorry to see your flop, but excellent analysis of the situation and stressing, safety, secure the area and having a coordinated plan. I am anxious to see the recovery video. Hindsight as they say is 20/20. In watching video and not knowing where your flop was going to take place, my instincts told me that you should have been further back in your caravan to allow the road to be more passable for your vehicle with the trailer. I admired how you handled yourself under the circumstances . Luckily no one got hurt. Keep up the good work n be safe!!
Can't wait to see your MOAB video. Most important thing I've learned in all my years of Wheeling with everything from Suzuki Samaris to fill size trucks is. Never wheel alone.
That could have happened to ANYBODY Jason. Thanks for sharing this experience, the lesson is huge for you and for all who watch; how EASY it is to lose control with the right physics at play. Think it was also amplified many times because you had two of your precious kids with you in that truck. I think that is a Max coupler? That also ensured you were getting out of there in one piece . . . you and the trailer and the truck. Looking forward to the recovery video next. Cheers from Canada, where there is no end to snow yet on March 14th lol.
Jason I know it's a dramatic experience but glad you weren't alone out there on the trail, I'm glad you had some good friends with you who were able to recover your trailer and there was no injuries to anyone, hopefully someone can learn from your experience who may be thinking about taking a trailer on the trail on wet snowy conditions.
5 years ago when i towing my camper trailer on the road accidentally flip and rolled and cause big damage ,, thanks god i was fine but i remember that moment sooooooooo nerves. then a got phobia from towing trailer for 2 years ... within 1 year i fix all the damages day by day and i learn a lots about towing from youtubers ... now i have no problem to tow my camper again and i did nice trips ... and now i share my experience for any beginners on towing campers the main basic for towing is ((balance)) the vehicle and trailer must be on straight level
I wanna see those Max couplers re-designed or at least have Limitations to the articulation of the trailer. I don’t think those couplers should do a full 360.
I can envision a built in dampening system. At a certain degree of articulation it automatically applies a regulated breaking action. If all else failed it would still protect the tow vehicle allowing full articulation and maybe make for a softer trailer flop.
bowtiecity I’m thinking as few more videos like this show up someone will take it into their hands to design a safer functioning articulating hitch. They’re watching!
i think if it tried to stop it something would have to give and it would break. the amount of leverage on that point would be huge with the length and width of the trailer. also if the vehicle is off camber it might take it down too when it catches.
Curious to why everyone drives with light bars and fogs on during the day, while in a line traveling at trail speed. Same with the rear facing lights. I know those are used in racing and dusty conditions but this is neither.
Why have them when you will never use them? It was not needed on the trail, but it also was not hurting other drivers to use it. So, they have lights and so they use them because normally, those lights would hardly ever be used on any trails at night. Few people run night trails, so those lights barely get used. That is why they use them any chance they get on the trails.
@jason - this happens and it's a learning experience. Something you may consider for slippery mud conditions as well is a set of diamond pattern light duty tire chains for the trailer to assist with the tire traction
Things happen in life. However, Thank you for sharing. It helps us in the future. Thankful to God that everyone was okay and no one was hurt. Please do not let this hinder your adventures.
Looks like you just had the right(wrong) combination of things happen...trailer dropped down into that little gully, started to slide, picked up momentum and caught a rock. Coupled with the high center of gravity of the trailer and it was over. Things happen, and so does dropping a swear word or two when under immediate stress. I doubt the Turtleback Getaway Trail trailer would have flipped just being lower to the ground. Again, perfect combo of things that could happen did...THANKS for the video, nice to see things go wrong too ya know? Its how you pick yourself back up that counts. (And yes...snow is tricky if you're not used to it.)
We are sorry for you. We hope you find the calm to see how you recover. I have some experience in driving in snow and in bad conditions and I can guarantee you, that the only sure thing is that you never have enough experience or prevention in these terrain conditions. I hope to greet you in solidarity at the "Overland Expo". Forward friend, that nothing stops the desire of adventure and exploration. By the way, you have wonderful children and with everything they know how to enjoy those moments, never lose that.
Shake it off man! Things just happen sometimes! The important part is instinct kicked in right away and everyone was safe! Can't wait to see the recovery!
Glad Mike was there👍 I’ve seen him in trailer recovery before. But it was dry, and snow, slush, ice, we call them marbles I imagine is way different. (From skiing experiences). Anyway I’m off to watch the recovery. I know it will be epic. 🇺🇸 Oh, and thanks for what we say take more out than what you brought, Trash. :)
@@AndreyNabutovsky I think the greatest risk is the trailer sliding off an embankment & then dragging the truck after it. Hopefully the hitch would blow first.
This could happen to anyone, don't feel bad! Driving in snow is not always intuitive. This shows one of my apprehensions of running a trailer off road, I have seen people do it but it dramatically changes the options and strategy you have while wheeling.
The next video will be of the recovery. I wanted to have it in it's own video because it's very detailed, very good, went very well and it's an important part of the story to emphasize. Also, I didn't want this video to be 30 minutes. :)
Thanks for giving good content. It’ll be okay, the kids and 4runner are okay.
Or just watch llod if you can’t wait.
Jason honest opinion i think you still need to get a good used land cruiser with the weight you guys put on that v6, its a reliable suv but maybe consider professional weight analysis of your total gross weight?
@@flashback5391 Haha yeah, but I'm sure Jason's video will be better. #whynotboth
Mate I feel for you, that is any 4 wheel drivers nightmare, it scares me to even think about putting a ding in a panel, glad you and the kids are OK. And that can happen to the best of us, have a look on you tube for a couple of blokes who do a show called All4adventure, the put a 70 series land cruiser on its side and 4x4 is what they do for a living
Great to be a part of the trip! Thanks so much for highlighting the importance of picking up after yourself and leaving every place better than you found it. Encouraging me to make a video on the topic myself. Stay tuned!
"It's ok Dad, Sometimes things happens in life that makes you say swear words" lol I Love it. Im glad that everyone is ok! Can't wait for the second video
Yes that was classic ! I laughed so hard.
What good kids!!
Thats some serious wisdom right there.
Great video, man. It's a good reminder that anything can happen at any time. Glad your crew was prepared to react safely and get you shiny side up!
Thanks man! Working on the recovery video now! I think you’ll be proud how they handled it. Solid people on this trip!
@@SwellRunner Looking forward to it!
Awesome to see you and LLOD collaborating! I love both of your channels. Hopefully the trailer works fine still.
Not an easy thing to display your mistakes for all the world to see. I have video of me making a stupid move on Elephant Hill and wrecking my truck that I haven't dared watch yet - too traumatic - let alone share with others. But seeing you embrace this and share it and open yourself up for others to potentially criticize is very admirable, and a great example. Deconstructing these episodes are how we progress, get better, and become more skilled. It's one reason why I continue to follow and get so much out of your videos. Hats off to you, and thanks.
Hi Jason - I watched this first with LLOD and had to see what your video had. Flopping or rolling any unit is not great. Damage, safety, embarrassment and frustration - a lot of emotion takes over quickly. You were definitely stressed as I could observe by your body language and accelerated speech - I can relate! In fact I recognized that you were in a level of SHOCK as noted by a few of your actions and nothing to be ashamed of. Shows your sincerity and concern. Shock comes from elevated stresses - not just injuries and something to be mindful of.
Minor damage, no one hurt, and didn't ruin anyone's day. Well maybe yours but look at the positives - great crew you were with and a safe extraction. My compliments to the group for a well thought out and executed recovery - safe, no unnecessary damages, and back on the track. They also were great at spotting and helping throughout. If anything to be learned it is to walk the tough sections of the track ahead of time and learn to recognize the hazards - keep exploring and again my compliments to the whole crew!
Thank you for sharing this. I cant imagine how you felt when it flopped. Glad everyone is ok and looking forward to part 2
Glad that everyone's ok, I think it's very kind of you to share such an emotional experience with your followers, most are eager to share the great experiences, but aren't as willing to share the "Not so good experiences" In many ways this will help others to understand that everything has it's limitations. Been following you for awhile and now you've got my wife watching your Vids as well, that means I'm one step closer to getting my Rig! We follow the "Leave it cleaner then you found it" motto as well! Looking forward to the recovery vids! Thanks again and keep doing your thing!
Stuff Happens!
Good training for you, perfect spot for it to happen, MUCH better than same type location, only with a thousand foot drop! Glad none of yall were hurt!
This is a great example of why some folks are willing to spend the money they do with the brands they do. Glad no one was hurt. The dings on the Trailer have an awesome story to tell!
Glad everyone is okay and you all had a valuable experience. Travel on!
Wow crazy how easy it flopped on you. Very glad you and the family are ok. Can't wait to see the recovery!!
My first big question mark was on the trailer hitch... what happened to it? Did it bend or twist?
Bruce Graf I have the same question
@@milkplus71 another commenter called it a Max Coupler.
Man I hate hate hate that warm slushy snow. My least favorite thing to drive by far. I can drive through 10" of snow at 30° without the slightest wheel slip, but 3" of slush at 42° uphill on an off-camber trail can slide you right off the road. It's sooo slippery and unpredictable, definitely shouldn't feel bad about any mishap in that stuff. I'd have attempted it as well since there were other rigs along to help recover if needed, but when I'm out by myself I don't chance it...even a few inches of warm snow, I turn around and find another route. Had to backtrack four or five times last week trying to find a passable route across a ridgeline due to warm slushy snow that would've been a piece of cake if it had been 15 degrees cooler. Looking forward to the follow up recovery video.
Glad that everyone is ok and that you are sharing your experience with others. I think that there is a lot to reflect and learn from this. Looking forward to the next video(s)!
Heck yea awesome to see my favorite tubers all grouped on an adventure
Offroading / Overlanding dreamteam right here! Awesome videos awesome recovery!
Hello - I've considered a RTT on my much smaller/lighter trailer. But I wonder if it would be top heavy when sitting atop a 500-lb (empty weight) trailer. My concern was for when we're in the tent or climbing in/out and applying lateral force. But this flop has me wondering. Do you think your load out had any effect on the rollover? Would biasing more weight at the bottom have helped? Not assigning blame, of course. Just searching for a teachable moment. Glad everyone is okay. Take Care! -Scott
You really need to consider it. I had a friend roll his very light trailer a couple years ago as it was very top heavy. He tipped it back and all was fine, but still.
@@SwellRunner - Thanks for the swift reply!
This is the reason why I never understand people taking $20,000-60,000 rigs with $20,000-30,000 trailers off-roading, but then again maybe it's just that I grew up increadibly poor so I really appreciate the money that I have these days. And although I could go buy something pretty new I would rather build something cheap and good, than always worry about scratches and dings and resell value (what is resell value, lol I will drive the wheels right off my xterra.
These things happen jason sometimes at no ones fault. No one was hurt and thats important. Im glad you didnt take lead in the situation. I feel you had to many emotions running through you. Looking forward to the next video
you handled the trailer roll very well! Kudos for keeping your head up high. Great video, cant wait to see more!
I think you may have gotten bitten by the shadows. You were just mentioning in the video how strong the sun was and how the snow was beginning to melt. Throttling through the dip (in the shade), it seemed like you nailed it perfectly, but the snow conditions likely changed pretty dramatically just after when you were back in the sun. I see this happen a lot where I live. Transitioning back and forth from shade to sun (especially at altitude where the temp differences are stark) can catch people and make them slip or auger in. That was a tricky trail that day.
That’s a very interesting point!!
Mike was awesome! Glad ya fam ok. I like the interaction bt all of you guys pretty neat
I don't mean to keep harping on this, but I find it interesting that Mateo and everyone else was informed that they were possibly closing the San Rafael Swell, and there is this effort to clean up other people's garbage before leaving your campsite, which is commendable - but then he goes and defaces public lands after knowing good and well that these areas are at risk. AND THEN he has the guts to claim that they didn't know it was a big deal?
Especially loved your video on the roof top and mold problem where you set it up at your church
Glad you guys are all ok. Great video and super cool to see all you guys out there together. Awesome!
Jason, another awesome video!
Seems like there are two stories here; 1. The trailer flip (seems like it could've happened to the best drivers. Glad you guys weren't hurt), and 2. Environmental clean-up and responsibility (LOVE that you're leading by example; going above and beyond by making this a priority--hope you'll include this as a part of some of your future videos).
Can't wait for the recovery vid!
Cleaning up trash - Important. Etching your Instagram profile name into ancient sandstone - Very Important.
Us truckers have a saying, when you think you've mastered backing or even just driving a rig with a trailer, that's when it bites you.
Yikes! I'm glad no one was injured and also hopeful that there wasn't much damage to your rig...
Great Video. Snow is unpredictable for sure. Honestly, I usually avoid it and off-camber mud because I have historically been remote and solo and couldn't afford the risks that the unpredictability of snow presents. Great points in your video. Safety should always be paramount. It was touching to see Lilly soothing and reassuring you. Good kids!!
Behind the Swell is usually pristine. I don't recall ever seeing trash on the trail or at either the staging area you were at or the campground just to the West.
Unfortunately, most of the closures in Utah right now are due to loss of protection and corporations moving in with leases for resource extraction. It's a great time to see it as you may not be able to soon. Some places have already closed as the MO is to have the company close it "For Your Safety".
What a trip! I'm not even going to touch the TCM Beast storm that hit post trip! Hopefully it will serve as a teaching moment regarding the UT desert environment, trail etiquette, educating your group, taking accountability for one's actions and using actions and not just words to respond to controversy.
How did the trailer stay on what kind of hitch did you have
I feel like if you had just a ball the trailer would pop off
But if you have a pivot hitch it might have been able to stay on other than that I have no idea what kind of hitch you had.
What’s the largest tire you can run on a 4Runner 5th gens stock suspension?
From experience, a standard hitch would keep it from going all the way over.
My 1 ¢.
What trail was this ?
This may be your best produced video yet!! Love the quality and format great job really impressed and inspired! Keep it up I'm a big fan!
Do you have the upgraded suspension on that trailer?
Soooooo…I just bought a 4Runner, have a Hiker Extreme Off-Road trailer and live in Utah. How can I get in this crew?!
I'm glad it turned out good in end. Cool trailer!
I always assumed I was the main Turtleback Expedition field-use stress tester, especially after our brutal Baja, MX trip last November where all the roads were completely demolished from the hurricane flooding... but I think you just took the top spot. Incredible to see such little damage from such a gnarly looking roll.
Oh snap! LLOD with Jason! Dope collab guys!
Hi Jason awesome video, i just started watching your channel. I love the family camping and trips. Keep up the good work and hobby. Cheers from Cape Town
Good plan. Way to help out.
Excellent video yet again! Love that you are practicing the “ leave it better than you found it” mindset. Love the videos!! keep them coming!
Thank you for sharing!
Glad you and your family are ok and it was a smooth recovery. Stay safe Jason.
You're ok, your family is ok, and what was damaged can be fixed or replaced. It sucks to break something you've invested time and money into, but sometimes it happens. While it seems like a bad experience, its something you and your kids will remember forever. Hopefully you'll look back at it and see the good in it. Glad everything worked out!
Saw this on LLOD and almost freaked. Glad you’re OK. You just sold a bunch of Turtle Backs. Anyone who wondered about their build quality, need wonder no more. Thanks for sharing.
Anything can happen. Glad you’re safe and with friends to help. Still snowing in northern Utah.
Is this a camping trip or an expedition?
Awesome video Jason. Thank you for sharing.
Glad you and the kids were safe.
WOW! I guess we all have bad days. Good to see no one was hurt!
Jason, Wow, I am shock. Glad that everyone is okay. Be safe.
Trash part is the best part. Good on ya.
Awesome and unfortunate video, but we live and learn. Thanks for sharing your experience and really looking forward to the next video 🤙
It is a fun watch ,keep doing what you do , my motto, live and learn. Keep up the good work
Keep your head up Jason, bigger and brighter days are ahead and love the pun at the end.
Jason, great video . Sorry to see your flop, but excellent analysis of the situation and stressing, safety, secure the area and having a coordinated plan. I am anxious to see the recovery video. Hindsight as they say is 20/20. In watching video and not knowing where your flop was going to take place, my instincts told me that you should have been further back in your caravan to allow the road to be more passable for your vehicle with the trailer. I admired how you handled yourself under the circumstances . Luckily no one got hurt. Keep up the good work n be safe!!
Awesome video alot things you could learn from keep sharing!👍
The IRONY of talking clean up and then the unfortunate event of redrock carve gate involving Tacoma beast/Mateo.
I'm glad you all fine. Great thing about leaving camp better than you find it. Thank you for sharing the thrill experience. BTW nice Marmot jacket.
Did it mess up the tongue of trailer at all?
Can't wait to see your MOAB video.
Most important thing I've learned in all my years of Wheeling with everything from Suzuki Samaris to fill size trucks is. Never wheel alone.
Glad you guys are ok! Looking forward to the recovery video.
Jason, what brand and model is your handheld CB radio?
Bad luck with the trailer...But great to see so many of my favourite channels all cross over in this video! Glad everyone was safe
That could have happened to ANYBODY Jason. Thanks for sharing this experience, the lesson is huge for you and for all who watch; how EASY it is to lose control with the right physics at play. Think it was also amplified many times because you had two of your precious kids with you in that truck. I think that is a Max coupler? That also ensured you were getting out of there in one piece . . . you and the trailer and the truck. Looking forward to the recovery video next. Cheers from Canada, where there is no end to snow yet on March 14th lol.
Jason I know it's a dramatic experience but glad you weren't alone out there on the trail, I'm glad you had some good friends with you who were able to recover your trailer and there was no injuries to anyone, hopefully someone can learn from your experience who may be thinking about taking a trailer on the trail on wet snowy conditions.
5 years ago when i towing my camper trailer on the road accidentally flip and rolled and cause big damage ,, thanks god i was fine but i remember that moment sooooooooo nerves.
then a got phobia from towing trailer for 2 years ... within 1 year i fix all the damages day by day and i learn a lots about towing from youtubers ... now i have no problem to tow my camper again and i did nice trips ... and now i share my experience for any beginners on towing campers
the main basic for towing is ((balance)) the vehicle and trailer must be on straight level
I wanna see those Max couplers re-designed or at least have Limitations to the articulation of the trailer. I don’t think those couplers should do a full 360.
I can envision a built in dampening system. At a certain degree of articulation it automatically applies a regulated breaking action. If all else failed it would still protect the tow vehicle allowing full articulation and maybe make for a softer trailer flop.
Justus Belfield - Life by the seat of his pants something needs to be done. I’ve seen to many flops with these 360 Couplers
bowtiecity I’m thinking as few more videos like this show up someone will take it into their hands to design a safer functioning articulating hitch. They’re watching!
i think if it tried to stop it something would have to give and it would break. the amount of leverage on that point would be huge with the length and width of the trailer. also if the vehicle is off camber it might take it down too when it catches.
Curious to why everyone drives with light bars and fogs on during the day, while in a line traveling at trail speed. Same with the rear facing lights. I know those are used in racing and dusty conditions but this is neither.
Why have them when you will never use them? It was not needed on the trail, but it also was not hurting other drivers to use it. So, they have lights and so they use them because normally, those lights would hardly ever be used on any trails at night. Few people run night trails, so those lights barely get used. That is why they use them any chance they get on the trails.
It’s all for the ‘gram.
their sponsors says so.
@jason - this happens and it's a learning experience. Something you may consider for slippery mud conditions as well is a set of diamond pattern light duty tire chains for the trailer to assist with the tire traction
Things happen in life. However, Thank you for sharing. It helps us in the future. Thankful to God that everyone was okay and no one was hurt. Please do not let this hinder your adventures.
Like they say in FL you don't have to shovel sunshine...
That's Hilarious!!
Your kids are awesome.
My dad and I have both flipped our trailers. It sucked when it happened but it will always buff out. As long as you are ok, that's what matters
Glad your ok buddie
Dude, I love how you immediately adjusted for exposure as soon as you picked up the camera. My stomach dropped with yours.
You guy's have some really nice rigs!
Deep inside, you all want Jeeps or the new gladiator. Yes, I am your Jeep Troll.
Jason, Glad everyone was OK. I wouldn't trailer in Winter it's hazard enough on paved roads. Thanks for sharing.
Sorry to see you rolled it, glad everyone was ok. got to get rid of that anchor Jason
Is your neck fused at any point??
I was out there a month or two ago! Fun and beautiful area.
Looks like you just had the right(wrong) combination of things happen...trailer dropped down into that little gully, started to slide, picked up momentum and caught a rock. Coupled with the high center of gravity of the trailer and it was over. Things happen, and so does dropping a swear word or two when under immediate stress. I doubt the Turtleback Getaway Trail trailer would have flipped just being lower to the ground. Again, perfect combo of things that could happen did...THANKS for the video, nice to see things go wrong too ya know? Its how you pick yourself back up that counts.
(And yes...snow is tricky if you're not used to it.)
We are sorry for you. We hope you find the calm to see how you recover. I have some experience in driving in snow and in bad conditions and I can guarantee you, that the only sure thing is that you never have enough experience or prevention in these terrain conditions. I hope to greet you in solidarity at the "Overland Expo". Forward friend, that nothing stops the desire of adventure and exploration. By the way, you have wonderful children and with everything they know how to enjoy those moments, never lose that.
Good it didn’t drag the truck
Right? Could of been so much worse. I say the fam was lucky.
Wont roll the truck with 360 maxcoupler...but if it was regular hitch receiver,then it wouldn't roll.
There is always pros and cons
@@AndreyNabutovsky No but could pull it down an embankment. Like you said, pros & cons.
crazy glad you shared this experience
Shake it off man! Things just happen sometimes! The important part is instinct kicked in right away and everyone was safe! Can't wait to see the recovery!
Glad Mike was there👍 I’ve seen him in trailer recovery before. But it was dry, and snow, slush, ice, we call them marbles I imagine is way different. (From skiing experiences). Anyway I’m off to watch the recovery. I know it will be epic. 🇺🇸
Oh, and thanks for what we say take more out than what you brought, Trash. :)
I love the whole picking up 10 pieces of trash! I’m using that one!
Great video
Yes! Been waiting a week for this episode!!
That is exactly what a short trailer with high center of gravity would do, good thing the 4 Runner did not flip over
It wont roll with 360 max coupler hitch receiver.
But with regular one could stay 9n trail.Not heavy enough to roll 4runner
@@AndreyNabutovsky I think the greatest risk is the trailer sliding off an embankment & then dragging the truck after it. Hopefully the hitch would blow first.
This could happen to anyone, don't feel bad! Driving in snow is not always intuitive. This shows one of my apprehensions of running a trailer off road, I have seen people do it but it dramatically changes the options and strategy you have while wheeling.
Part of the problem with dragging an off road camping trailer along. They roll over sometimes.
Nobody’s fault. Didn’t seem anyone else expected that to happen either. Everyone walked away. Things can be fixed or replaced.
Put it this way everyone walked away from this. You learn something new everyday and you now know what to do.
Loved that clip with everyone’s Instagram snippets
Is it really that easy to roll it