Author Vikram Sampath on his 2-volume work on Savarkar, his view on Gandhi, Hindutva, RSS/Golwalkar
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2021
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Vikram Sampath, historian and author, was the guest at this edition of ThePrint's Off The Cuff.
In a conversation with ThePrint's Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta, Sampath talked about his upcoming second part of a two-part biography on Veer Savarkar titled "Savarkar: A Contested Legacy". Sampath also addressed questions pertaining to the controversies surrounding Savarkar, and what it was like for him to dive deep into the history of Savarkar.
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"Historians job is to illuminate the records, not interpret it"
Vikram sampath
This statement sums up the debate for me.
@Tyu Ui 👍👌👌
Yesterday's newsreaders or hackneyed journalists can interpret every subject under the sun and present their bias as facts, and still be called as eminent journalists or editors. How fair is that?
@@welingkartr416 Random anonymous social media posts is considered genuine sources of data nowadays
yeh debate nahi tha...
Jumla hai,bhai.interpretatios based on facts and logic is necessary.
Vikram was my college and hostel mate in pilani. So proud of him and his historical knowledge. Did not get to see this side of him in college
A rare quality of an engineer.
He's from BITS PILANI ..? Whixh batch ? Post 2000?
@@sanjaygadhalay I think sometime before 2005. He was already a famous alum by 2009 when I was a fresher.
How old is he?
He already said character evolves
Jinnaha's portrait continue to be displayed at AMU. Iqbal poems are still part of national curriculum. Ali brothers are celebrated for Khilafat movement yet they have problem with Savarkar.. Indian Secularism at it best.
Iqbal is the one who wrote... cheen-o-arab hamara,hindustaan hamara,
musalmaan hai ham, yeh jahaa vatan hamara.
to which he was later apologetic. It's okay to realise a mistake . Ambedkar was also of the view that devotion of an individual must be towards service of motherland, despite the social imbalances, and Islam was of a different view. But today owaisi sahab says..jai bheem, jai meem. altering ideologies to suit your discourse.
This is simply because he was a British spy and also that RSS and Hindu Mahasabha had forbidden its members to participate in the freedom struggle. Both Savarkar and Godse were homosexual partners and they also wanted to kick out Muslims into a separate country. Their political parties formed coalition governments with Muslim league in four provinces.
@@ishaankoul3164 correction: fake freedom struggle orchestrated by British stooges like Gandhi and congress. Rss opposed congress and Gandhi just like the communist party of India did that time. Gandhi's so called freedom struggle drama fetched us nothing. RSS , Communists, Netaji everyone opposing congress knew the motive of congress was NOT FREEDOM bt power exchange from British
@@EILF7842 Sorry Mr. Cyber Zombie... I'm not going to teach you history lessons for free. 🙂 Try as hard as you can... Or better enroll yourself in a school. You may learn divine properties on cowdung in your shakha school. Also, my sincere condolences on losing bengal. 😜 Take your one rupee for that comment.
@@ishaankoul3164 listen one thing...in next few decades our history will be rewritten.Indian history needs an Indic point of view and there are plenty of Indic scholars involved in the process.The political biases of neheruvian and Marxist distorians has damaged the grand narrative of India.Just because there's a monopoly of leftist ideologies in elite universities doesn't mean that picture will not change in future.May be your future generations will have strong connections with centrist right wing ideologies and that will be uncomfortable for you. As far as Bengal election is concerned... I'm amazed that English speaking animals don't have a little ammount of compassion for those 83000 people who left their house in order to be saved from goons.My own teacher was in exile for weeks just because he went to a campaign of BJP...his sister in law was molested. 7000 women who were molested , tortured...some of them being gang r @ p e d still bastard animal like the one I'm talking to are mocking other people without having any concern for the victims.
I had read Hindutva the book by Savarkar as a child and after that I have never been confused about this concept. I highly recommend his direct book called Hindutva. A scientific, pragmatic, logical Hindu, is Savarkar.
Very true
The book calls for killing of low-caste Hindus and Muslims/Christians as well. Do you support that too?
@@ishaankoul3164 you haven't read it, stop vomiting the lies fed by Marxist historians
@@ishaankoul3164 Shows the level of ignorance in you, Savarkar was the one who stood for dalits entry in temples, savarkar was the one who wanted dalits to be temple priests, he was the one who blessed weddings of mahars and chitpavan brahmins and he was a staunch opponent of caste and wanted the destruction of it unlike conservative gandhi who wanted its preservation, don't spread pr0paganda
@UCLDCvAjpyrQSE1nKYvEnFpQ stop yammering ignoramus.
Thanks for the talk. As a Maharashtrian I have seen my grandparent's generation respect Savarkar a lot while at the same time hearing all sorts of bile in current discourse. Great to have a modern academic approach to help me understand the man's legacy instead of political quips and jibes.
Thank you very much for watching, and for kind words…
@@shekhargupta3911 Shekhar Sir, please interview such inspired Indians, who don't have an inferiority complex, and share India's rich past in the right context. Your channel would do much better, and you would even serve the nation much better!
He is doing good work but I don't think he is an academic although he has outshone many of them
Can't stop thinking about how historians without history degrees are doing a much better job at history than academic historians. Vinay Sithapati, Vikram Sampath, and Sanjeev Sanyal being prime examples.
You can add Manu Pillai to the list.
So true..
‘Non-Historians’ are doing research on primary sources. Career historians are regurgitating what their predecessors wrote citing them as references. And these predecessors happen to have loyalties elsewhere
@@devilsadvocate4864 History is a discipline with his own protocols and I know as I am a Historian with a PhD from the University of Hawaii at Manoa and have taught History in a Central University for 33cyears. Your point is well taken and that is the result of overly politicizing the discipline and making a politically useful history an academic mandate hich squelched the space for serious debate
Slogans became a substitute for argument evidence and theoretical validation
As for the point that non Historians write better History that is because they make up by hard work what they lack by training and Sitspathi is a PhD from Princeton in Pol Science and Sampath has taken his from Queenland
Sanysl writes well
On the petition , we must rather ask why Nehru and Gandhi never had to spend a day incarcerated in Andaman ! That says who really were British stooges. And they proved that by keeping India in virtual colonisation for long after British vacated India.
Vinay Sithapathy is a leftist
Vikram Sampath is the kind of articulate authors that countries need today. Truth cannot be hidden, and must be brought out in its true sense
Finished reading Freedom At Midnight by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre ! Awesome read. Authentic, well researched, referenced from rich archived material. A must read for all Indians and Indophiles, specially ones interested in the pre- and post partition history. Great account on the Veer's contribution to Gandhiji's assassination conspiracy ! Most of the comments here are from people who, I am sure, have neither read the book nor have the competency to question the authenticity of the facts presented by the engineer cum author who is not even a qualified historian of any sorts ! Just fans following a smoke trail !
@@kumarnarayana5105 Not a qualified historian but still has a better outlook of the prominent people of past than the historians having degree.
Why The Print does not hring truth fron other side then? Why only publicity for sanghi writers
@Google Baba 1234 I have read the book, also sampath is The Print's guest author, read his topics and articles on the print website. btw you dont know what article/blog/online writing is? do you?
@@kumarnarayana5105 This comment is testimony that writting in Fancy english does not mean you are correct!
Marathi generations have known Veer Savarkar Tatya by numerous public lectures all over from Gwalior Indore Nagpur all Maharashtra Vadodara Karnataka Tanjavur
mostly marathi brahims, chitpavans to be specific
@Google Baba 1234 Are you Sampath's fake account?? because I didnt even mentiom sampath anywhere here
Yeah Maharashtrians have Kannada, Telugu and Tamil blood. Maharashtra was ruled by Vijaynagara, Chalukyas, Rashtrakutas, Hoysalas all being Kannada empires. Only after Peshwas came they destroyed Kannada but couldn't destroy the Ajanta Ellora caves, culture and dialect influence on Maharashtra
@Redi ever even nehru and ghandi write mercy petitions.
@@akshaykumar465 peshwas destroyed kannada but mugals save your peoples .
Vikram Sampath is doing a wonderful service to India by uncovering perspectives of history backed with facts and documentation. Thank you Shekhar Gupta and The print for such an enlightening and dignified conversation on Veer Savarkar.
We need scholars like Vikram Sampath. And more discussions with him on such relevant topics. Thanks for bringing him Shekhar.
Wonderful discussion. Volume 1 of Vikram Sampath’s Savarkar book gripped me and changed my shallow understanding of Veer Savarkar. Eagerly awaiting Volume 2. I haven’t been this excited about the release of a book since the Harry Potter series.
Bro just follow Bharadwaj on Twitter.....please
It's only once in a while that someone like Vikram comes along! What a knowledgable and modest person!
Can't match the intelligence of historians such as Ramachandra Guha😂
@@SK15 cope
@@SK15😅😅 mice nice jokes
I m definitely reading this book. Vikram sampath is a great guy.
Yes, Vikram as put together a phenomenal amount of documentation..thanks for writing in
Great discussion. Salute for such a rational discussion on one of the greatest rationalist of all times....Barisster Savarkar. A great human being, writer, poet, fighter and an inspiration.
Thank you for writing in my friend… stay well..
And a perennial apologist....u missed the main point....
@@shahzadaansari5106 I think you didn't watch the whole video, so obviously you would say that he's a ‘perennial apologist’ of Savarkar just because he(Vikram) wrote a book on him (Savarkar.)
@@shahzadaansari5106 in jail no one is safe
@@shahzadaansari5106 Ambedkar said that Muslims will never be able to accept India as his motherland. Call him an Islamophobe.🙂
How Savarkar chose to end his life in his last days would put a lid to the controversy about mercy petitions. He voluntarily gave up food and water during his last days, a process called ‘Prayopveshan’, embracing a slow death.
Why a great revolutionary like Savarkarji would lead to Prayopveshan is a perplexing mystery . Was there nothing more left to be done ? It feels like a mystery especially after reading " Maazi Janmathep " .
Good riddance.
@@kunalpareek8321 what is you real name?
Self starved himself at an age of 4x
He begged the British for mercy many times. He himself gave the term of Veer. He is a coward who was indirectly responsible for Gandhiji's assassination.
V.D. Savarkar is an example of people who are born at times when they are needed. He was not just any other freedom fighter but a brilliant poet, writer, philosopher, with great organizational and oratory skills. He was an intellectual and visionary. Proud to be from his state Maharashtra.
Very good eye opener... Chilli powder to those who portrayed wrong narrative on Veer Savarkar.... Well done Vikram ji 🙏🙏
Vikram is one of India's topmost young public intellectuals.
Am amazed at the effort he has put in to bring out these books at such an young age. This is what we need not the mindless rant that goes on. Good job sampath
"Native American isn't blood. It is what is in the heart. The love for the land, the respect for it, those who inhabit it, and the respect and acknowledgement of the spirits and elders. That is what it is to be Indian."
- White Feather, Navajo Medicine Man.
You mentioned similar elsewhere in the interview .
All the talk about “scientific” DNA and Race and obsessive preoccupation ends with above deep insight.
Pusillanimous left liberals especially must note and look elsewhere for topics.
Many controversies are surrounding Savarkar and his work.
Today's generation does not have any idea about Savarkar and his contribution to India's freedom, not only from the British but also from the many social injustices.
I believe we have to present Savarkar without any prejudice to the current generation. By 'WE', I mean a generation born in Independent India from 1950 to 1970. We have read his work, have understood his philosophy behind reforms.
Today's generation does not know this. The knowledge they have is what the popular media tells them.
we have an idea about his boot licking
Generation? Seriously. 🤣
@@Dakeshcharya611 Then Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose was also a bootlicker right???
@@Dakeshcharya611 if u still think so after watching this whole vedio, then u must seriously lack brain cells
Finished reading Freedom At Midnight by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre ! Awesome read. Authentic, well researched, referenced from rich archived material. A must read for all Indians and Indophiles, specially ones interested in the pre- and post partition history. Great account on the Veer's contribution to Gandhiji's assassination conspiracy ! Did they discuss about savarkar's homosexual inclinations? Most of the comments here are from people who, I am sure, have neither read the book nor have the competency to question the authenticity of the facts presented by the engineer cum author who is not even a qualified historian of any sorts ! Just fans following a smoke trail !
I read "Maazi Janmathep" (my life sentence), written by Veer Savarkar, when I was in fourth grade, he is my hero, I don't care what anybody says about him, it doesn't matter to me.
👍👌
True. I read when I was in 6th standard. Couldn’t control my tears
Guptaji knew if he disagree on anything he would be shown his place considering how much Virkam has read about him and how much guptaji knows we could see in this video
😂
Well observed
Gupta ji probably knows as much about Savarkar as Congress wanted him to know. But it’s about time that RSS shows it’s real face to the world. Else we will have idiots like Imran Khan would go around the world trying to paint heroes like him in bad light.
I think differently.. Guptaji doesn't want to be unpopular needlessly by asking provocative questions, unlike Barkha Dutt or Karan Thapar. I think the interviewer should have pushed the author little bit instead of just listening to him..
Or maybe Gupta Ji understands that he may be wrong and is willing to change his mind.
his (Sawarker's) views on cast system were similar to Dr. Ambedkar's ... this should be printed and distributed to all the leftists
Maybe not only the leftists but the rightists too!
both need to be educated 😂
@@adityajain5914 there's no right wing in India.
@@HimanshuYadav-ng9md you say that with a straight face?
@@priyankamajumdar1248 he is right. BJP is saying it's right wing but in reality it's more like a shade of saffron and secular
Just because savarkar wrote few mercy petitions he is traitor
While nehru and gandhi were busy having lunch with edwina
A much needed discourse. We need to revisit our independence 'Mahapurush' list as a country. It's about time we drop the colonial lens when looking at our past.
Very informative discussion. I am not born in India but my ancestors are from India and this is one of the best discussion I have had on Print
Where are you from
We need historians like Vikram, very neutral. Very thorough in not ONLY what he had written, he had also, analyzed several others who had lived around the same time his focus in the book (like Gandhi).
Got to know about Vikram Sampat during Covid when people were worried that he is in ICU. Now I know why. I am already ordering this book and pre-ordering next two about Tipu and Shivaji.
Thank you Aryan. I shall let Vikram know… best wishes
@@shekhargupta3911 Thank you sir. Give my best regards. I wish to get my copy signed from him one day.
Same here 😁
@@aryan1991sharma fake account bro😅
Buy 1st part too.
Shekhar Gupta, thanks for having a talk on Saverkar which is still assumed as "politically correct"
*incorrect
I think you mean politically incorrect
Yes, thank you
@@Arajkumar55 👍
So nice of you, Shekhar ji! I remember in the universities, we were banned from reading Gowalkar, RSS and Godse! The colonial narrative from colonial subservient Historians, who looked to Oxford, and Cambridge.
At least you group together Godse , RSS & Gowalkar
Sawarkar's stance on Beef eating was crystal clear .. he was ahead of the pack .. in simple terms the logic was Eat Beef if you have to it is not going to make you less of a HIndu but if somebody is purposely trying to promote Beef just to annoy Hindus then he would be a staunch Gou rakshak
So all those blind Gouabhakta and all those Nehruwiyan liberals understand this thinking first, life will be easy if you do that
More volumes of our freedom movement leader should come out. We were stereotyped in believing only Nehru and Gandhi got us the freedom 🙏 ..
As Vikram said, his next two projects are Chhatrapati Shivaji and Tipu Sultan… thanks for writing in
Thank you for your feedback. We will keep it in mind…best wishes..
as savarkar had said it
"they will wear their janeu above their coats".
thats why indira issued a stamp of savarkar.
to appease the Hindus.
Lo "Indira issued a stamp of Savarkar.
to appease the Hindus"l As if Savarkar was any Hindu god, He was just a slave of British raj who wrote petition and later try to bargain with british
@@deepankarroy774 so you didn't watch the video?
@@deepankarroy774 Aa gaye expert historians.
@@deepankarroy774 to teri mummy ne stamp kyu issue ki ?
Appease hindus?? What kind of hindus were followers of Savarkar then? Savarkar is paper hero created by marathi chitpavan bramhan hindus! and now by bjp bhakts
Kudos to Vikram Sampath for his well researched study on Vir Savarkar.
I wish this this young man all the success in writing and in being fiercely independent! Hope the Hindu and Indian Express give him a platform as well!
Thank you Nalini. I shall let Vikram know… best wishes
Hindu is anti Hindu.
Really you think so? Those newspapers are infested with commies.
My 2 cents on this session
1. Great conversation on one of all time great patriot sons of India
2. Savarkar was maligned only for the reason that he was never a Congressi and he talked for Hindhus with no shame thought out life time after 1920s, mainy after the shameless appeasement act of MKG and Congress with Muslims during and after Khilafat movement
Who is relevant today for India?
Is it Veer Savarkar who propsed caste less Hindu society, a clear Indian identity defined, who batted for industrialization, modern scientific education all based on the strong Indian ancient civilization foundation ?
Or
MkG ?
Who advocated no violence even if you enemy is haunting you, satyagraha which is useless in modern context, a social system with varnas or castes, no modern industries and so on..
Today's needs tell us this harsh truth of Veer Savarkar as an ever green thought leader of all times emerged from India who never got his due from his country what he really deserved
But times have changed and young minds like Vikram are taking risk to explore this great leader and enlightening us with knowldge
Hats off to you Vikram🙏🙏🙏
I read the first volume and really liked it. Waiting for the 2nd volume to purchase and digest 🙂
Here is an interesting story on Savarkar and also on one of the first cases of mob lynching in Independent India.
After Gandhi's assassination, a huge Anti Brahmin riots engulfed Maharashtra/Bombay Presidency. Chitpavan Brahmins (To which Godse belonged) were targeted by congress workers and estimates say that around 5000-8000 Brahmins were butchered. The Indian Media obviously didn't report it, however few foreign outlets did reports on it and we also have the anecdotal evidence of survivors. In these riots, Narayan Rao Savarkar, the younger brother of VD Savarkar, was dragged out of his house, beaten by sticks and stones, and lynched by conngress workers. Because of the fake allegations of Gandhi Murder that were thrown at VD Savarkar. You can google to know more about this incident.
This won't be talked about.. same way Kashmiri Pandits exodus .reasons is Brahmins lives do not matter ,,,, In Maharashtra politics it is the typical strategy of Congress and left to target Marathi Brahmans specially Chitpawans as they know at the most that community will protest by writing letters and are a tiny minority.. irrespective of the contribution such a community made to independence and post Chatrpati Shivaji Maharaj era . Peshwas, Namdar Gokhle, Sawarkar , freedom fighters like Cahphekar brothers , reformist like Dr Karve/ Ranade and so on ... every time the left and Congress want to attack anything to do with Hindus they will bring in the Godse angle ! you should see how certain part of the Maharashtrian political community really got hot under the collar when 2 times Chitpawans were elected as CMs first Shivsena selected Manohar Joshi and then BJP selected Fadanawis ... it was like spreading salt over a wound ......
and even today's CM Udhav Thakre's wife is a Chitpavan Brahamin so was Dr Ambedkars !
to add RSS although headed mostly by Non Chitpawans is always targeted as " rule by Chitpavan Brahmins" LOL
Worst look at what poison people like Bamsef is spreading
Search Khari baat Prakhar ke sath. He has made video on this topic.
I would shed happy tears if you had used "Hindu Brahmins" instead of Brahmins. Pls dont divide Hindus. Dont be advantageous for Leftists. If you spoke only about brahmins , then they would talk about other Hindus like Dalits and this would go on and on and on...
@@vipin7568 Sorry that was not my intention I was just trying to highlight a regional reality,
@@vipin7568 Right. Would keep that in mind in future.
Shekhar uncle and vikram ji......what an enlightning session.....please shekhar sir bring these kind of people more often on off the cuff ....so that we get to know more things about history
From Shekhar's body language, he does not seem to like what he is hearing about Savarkar
So true...
But he gave platform to this book... One should appreciate that...
MSM only likes to degrade true patriots.
Agree . Gupta ji is on defensive
He is clearly doing this for money 💰 he is as right wing as venomous Vinod dua
Vikram Sampath- Good Job. I am going to buy your book.
Best off the cuff. Really eye-opening. I have always seen Savarkar as a stooge who was not able to sacrifice for his conviction.
The context really helped! Especially the fact that Gandhi supported British during this time and was given a medallion for his efforts.
Kudos to you for keeping an open mind to new ideas. Most people are happy to pigeon hole themselves to left-right dichotomy.
Clarity of thoughts, calmness and maturity create such an amazing persona of Vikram Sampath. We need such scholars in our academia along with these revelating discussions.
watched the whole episode with my dad he said "Watching him speak makes me proud as Indian as now youth knowns how to express their views constructively especially in the world of political correctness"
Historians must illuminate facts and not distort the facts
Mr. Guha especially should listen to it. And if he really has historical facts then dare counter it. But he will not definitely, he talks with people ; who just agree with him.
Not with Mr Guha please...let's have a discussion between Mr Vikram Sampath and Mr Rahul Eashwar
@@archanadurand2297 I would love J Sai Deepak to talk with Vikram. Rahul Easwar is not a person with historical knowledge.
For your kind information guha is management background he has no knowledge of actual history but has factual one
I am so happy that Vikram made SG listen to all this with a smile on SG's face.
I agree with you Sampath when you say a young Muslim boy or a Girl in India today is not responsible to the Albatros ( Not sure what the exact word was) of Gazali and AUranzeb sure BUT why then the young Muslim boy or a Girl in India today is more concerned about conflicts out side India like Palestine and Rohingya? does it not show that Religion above nationhood is the thinking of some communities?
This can also be countered by saying hindus, Christian of india are supporting Israel as our country policy is neutral
@@priyanshupandey2670 that is reaction towards political islam.
@@vinodrawat6448 i didn't get u
@@priyanshupandey2670 by supporting Israel they feel they are denying political Islam. As Israel looks like only democracy in middle east, all the the other Muslim dominating countries surrounding Israel are some extand run by Islamic theocracy.
Very nice interview. Fact based, no assumptions & judgement. I really liked the statement when Vikram said, accept the history as it is, heal & move forward.
wow, just hats off to this discussion. You have portrayed the real picture and spoken about this subject nicely. Savarkar was indeed wrongly implicated and a political victim.
Vikram - you have spoken about Gandhi, Nehru, Khilafat, and so many sensitive subjects and spoken the facts. Now SG should really do a CTC on "intolerance since Independence" and how people lost jobs by just reading the poems on the radio .
Vikram you also have stated a good fact that in India we didnt make peace with our past. The political system never allowed to accept the wrongdoings and try to make a peace. Unless we do that, Hindu-Muslim unity won't be possible. and it is also important to note - for India's progress, Hindu-Muslims need to learn to live together peacefully.
Thank you Pacific Ocean for nicely summarizing the interview.
Ambedkar on Islam was punch line (Shekhar can’t handle
to usme galat kya he ... ambedkar ne to hindu brahamnwad ke bare me bhi bola tha ... jo galat he usko galat bolna galat kya he ...... ??? tum log muslims ki sirf nicha dikhane me itni khusi kyu mehsoos karte ho ??? kya ye tumhare dharm me sikhaya jata he ??
@@shinigami_ryuk
begani shaadi me abdullah deewana...
baat savarkar aur RSS ki vikrit maansikta ki ho rahi hai... aur ye 3rd party Ambedkar aur muslim ki chuski le raha hai !
@@kumarnarayana5105 Aa agaya Aurangzeb ka aulad
@Post Modernist could be... but the conversation here is about something else! moreover, you need not hate someone else to love yourself, of for that matter to be self-indulgent while fixing the justification on others... this is called victim-playing!
@Post Modernist if you do not know about RSS you should. if you do not know about mahasabha you should. you should know what savarkar was about, his violent and bigoted ideas of a hindu-land, his patronage of sectarian violence, his nurturing of the godses, his role in assassinating gandhi. yes, these are the facts, the fatcs of the dirty underbelly of the savarkar bigotry. read more than what meets to the right side of your eye, read from the contemporary scholars of the time, and not just sit through soft talk from eulogizing armchair privileged part-time historian and you will know what the damned truth is. I am ready to name you resources if you are ready to examine them LOL ! you know nothing about savarkar, what is your academic background BTW?
A couple of takeaways: allow your guests to express their views uninterruptedly like Mr. Shekhar and express your views in an unbiased and intellectually sound manner like Mr. Vikram.
Kudos to the Print for this lovely conversation! ❤️
It is a delight ,listening to Me Vikram Sampath in your inter-active session . Frankly, I lost hope ,not finding sensible youngsters ,who could articulately bring great understanding of the present situation in a sensible and understandable manner. But my hope kindled with the arrival of Mr. Sampath
Shekhar has to be given full marks for his honesty in admitting being given his journalistic inputs from politicians of a certain party!
Ask Jairam Ramesh about it and pit him against Guptajee on this , you will see Guptajee back off.
Vikram Sampaths work and discussion is very data driven. This is what historians should be. The moment the historian adds his/her opinion to it - its not history any more - it becomes a opinion piece. Thanks Sekhar for bringing such speakers to your platform.
Vikram articulated everything so well, very enlightening session. Thanks a ton for this and looking forward to read his books on our national heroes.
True historian. He is right when says that narratives set against veer savarkar need to be changed.
Oh! the look of unease on Shekhar sirs face from minutes 7 to 10 when Vikram talks of Marxist darbari historians and cancel culture
Loving it
Thanks Vikram Sampath for calling a spade a spade. The intolerance of Nehru clan is so obvious
He is not always calling a spade a spade. He says Muslims should not be held responsible for misdeeds of their ancestors. Is it true? Most Muslims believe in the same Jihadi ideology on the basis of which their forefathers destroyed Hindu temples and raped and murdered Hindus. So at least at the ideological level today's Muslims can't totally dissociate themselves from their forefathers and their misdeeds.
@@anirbansadhukhan4681 Well, that's a controversial issue. Convincing them to hold the civilization first and faith next is something we have to achieve in the long term. Abrahamics in general. And so, let's wait and just do it slowly. Politically we're getting there. Socially too we will.
What a conversation 👏👏. I am so proud that at least some media house in india has such candid and intellectually thought provoking conversations.
Thank you Sandeep. As we keep saying, we do un-hyphenated journalism. You should become a member of our UA-cam community… best wishes..
We understand that Hridaynath Mangeshkar lost job, that Nehru Government was really not democratic.
Vikram Sampat rightly said, where intolerance started
Glad to see Dr. Sampath back. He recovered quite recently from a bout of illness; a tryst with COVID-19.
sawarkar started the 1st temple for all castes
After several decades India has given birth to a real original historian. The name Vikram Sampath as a historian will open the pages of true Indian history for true Indians! His name will be immortalized in the Indian History!
I have read most of Savarkars work as a kid and inspired by his poems. Sampat confirms all i know about savarkar. I was hoping new light that i didnt know of. I would still encourage all to read savarkar in the original .
Vikram is such a balanced person at this tender age and his views about history and it's contemporary relevance are very impressive.The debate in toto is outstanding
Shekhar's eyes became small and he did not enjoy the answers :) Well done Vikram Sampath. Truth always prevails.
Loved the book...excellently researched... Vikram Sampath deserves greatest kudos!...loathe him or praise him one thing is amply clear....Savarkar was a patriot of the highest order. So many superb anecdotes fill the book...deserves a place in our bookshelves. Let the libtards and sickulars keep euologizing Nehru but a renewed interest in unravelling authentic Indic heroes is truly laudable....more power to Vikram...
What a historical knowledge of vikram sampat ji.....shandar debate..
What an enlightening interview. So much of nuances.
Savarkar's contribution to marathi language is often overlooked as well. He coined many words that we continue to use today in everyday marathi.
There is a marathi poem by Savarkar himself, "अनादी मी, अनंत मी, अवध्य मी भला, मारील रिपू जगति असा कवण जन्मला." The meaning is " No one knows the start and end of mine, I am immortal. The one who can kill/finish me is yet to born on the earth" This was written in 1911 and after 90 yrs it's true. Congress and their echo system tried every mean to tarnish Savarkar's image but so called intellectuals today had to interview the writer to know about Hindutva and Savarkar.
Great fan of Mr. sampath. I am planning to buy his books as soon as i will get money.
shekher tried so hard to please the left agenda but vikram slapped right with the straight facts well done!
wow, listening to him is like watching kohli cover driver to anderson in cloudy lords stadium
Gem of an analogy 😂👍
you mean being merciless with class?
All the best Vikram for your book. Hope this book reaches wide audience and clears misreprentations fuelled by Congress and left over decades.
I think still you have not gai. Know ledge
just after 2 questions, SG turned to Tippu sultan shows that SG was clean bowled by Vikram in two balls !
Its daily bread of these shameless people to distort history
Hypocrisy we can find everywhere.. If Savarkar writes a mercy petition it is just the norm but if it was a Muslim then it will be interpreted differently. Likewise Tipusultan killing his opponents is religious but a Maratha army destroying a Hindu temple or killing their enemies will be interpreted differently. This shows we are all biased and we have our favorites and we should be open to all opinions and interpretations. One statement I liked from the author is History is not permanent and it is changing with time or something like that..
What do you expect from Darbari Journalist. Just around 9:00 Vikram referred to Darbari historian. Dalla Gupta ji took seriously because he himself is Darbari of 10 JP. And shifts beyond topic of book to Tipu and Shivaji.
@@pkm7776 We citizens have no choice, either Darbari or Godi media like Arnab or Zee TV etc.. Once the govt changed the same godi will become Darbari..
@@kavisiddu , your name suggests that you belong to a region close to Mangalore. please consult people in Coorg and then frame your opinion. for any discussion, one needs to have a good "literature survey" and understanding of the history.
Shekhar Gupta tried to lay many minefields for Vikram Sampath. Deliberate and most unprofessional. Sampath not only recognised them, but stepped on them such that the minefields blew in the face of Gupta. Ashok Chowgule
Vikram avare please direct a pan India movie on Savarkar with Yash kannada actor in the lead role and reestablish Savarkar character again in the hearts of Indians.Proud that our Mysore Kannada Iyer is the author of these books.
मैं सदा सोचता हूँ कि देश के बाकी पत्रकार शेखर गुप्ता की तरह उदार और समावेशी क्यों नहीं हो सकते हैं? साधुवाद सर!
Aap ka bahut bahut dhanyawad…
At the outset my felicitation and thanks to Vikarm for telling the story, although much delayed, of the "misunderstood and maligned patriot"(in Vikram’s words) and a social reformist.
What beats logic is that in our school days, Autocratic rulers like Aurangzeb, Hyder Ali etc (whose conduct was contrary to the nominal Human Rights standards - recorded and proven) were given prominence, if at all there were only passing references to VDS and Netaji.
Just the social reform of breaking the “seven shackles” is reason enough to promote and study VDS
Would you say that the British Raj, deliberately downplayed the contribution of leaders like VD Sarkar and Netaji in the Freedom movement (Indian) and propped up leaders of the INC, including influencing the school syllabus in an education system modelled in the British style? It then became a fait accompli for the new leaders of Independent India.
Ohh god, i can feel the pain og SG.. Just love it..
For a celebrity political journalist like SG he does not seem to be well informed on Savarkar and Hindutva!
Shekhar Gupta has spent his life curled up on the footmat of the Gandhi-Nehru-Vadra family. What else do you expect? No wonder he rakes up Tipu Sultan, Aurangazeb etc. He is still being loyal to his masters. Good boy!
Welingkar you said it. He is from a creed of status quoist thriving on roundabout way of saying something which is actually nothing.
You guys must have lost your mind!! Gupta Ji is a patriot through and through. Shame on you guys.
@@mattu909 Yes, when being a servitor of the Nehru-Gandhi family is enough to be called a patriot.
@@welingkartr416 how is he a servant of Nehru family?
Vikram Sampath does demystify Savarkar really well. Extensive research and a truly excellent historian and orator. Thank you Gupta sir for this.
We need to encourage and support more people like Mr. Sampath to research history and present information without imposing an agenda. So refreshing.
Wow. Eyes opener discussion on Great Veer Savarkar.
Recommended for all my woke leftist friends.
I also enjoyed the discussion. Is "leftist " now a slur? I am certainly a leftist if it means pro people, pro environment, pro sustainability , pro human rights , pro democracy pro health care , pro literacy . What is your definition of leftist?
@@renudidi47i think we should avoid being confined to left or right nomenclature which is again an imported concept..
Lets all pledge our allegiance to Bhartiya ideology which includes all that you mentioned + nationalist identity+ civilizational awakening+ going back to our spiritual roots + true secularism ( no religion in governance + no special privilege to both minority and majority) + zero minority appeasement etc etc.
Its High time now to define our own indigenous definition of human rights, democracy, secularism etc since all these are western imports and may not be portable in the Indic context..this is what decolonizing truly means..
Read Rajiv Malhotra for further enlightenment
It was a revelation to hear Sampath talk about Savarkar. Look forward to reading his book.
Thank you Vikram sampanth.. portraying veer savarkar as he was!
Vikram has literally slapped Shekhar with his scholarly explanation many times... would be an enlighting knowledge session for Shekhar.
One of the best 'Off The Cuff'; Mr Sampath is a very articulate, knowledgeable and politically independent historian. I'll be buying the books.
Ofcourse the barbarism of the past does not lie on the shoulders of the young today.But brushing it with falsehoods as a appeasement policy needs to be understood For what it is today, Gandhi's true Colors are also coming to the surface now'.
@@karan200590 that is biggest goal of hindutva to dismantle it
@@satyambhartee3189 Gandh jis life was also nuanced . I enjoyed the detailed discussions . And yes India needs to come to terms with its past, especially the cruelties of the caste system .
Vikram's comment on Rahul Gandhi at the end is the most apt summarization and characterization of Rahul Gandhi in the media I have seen or heard..
See as a youngster I must say that all this controversies are for Political gain...
When one side defames Vir Savarkar the other one defames visionary Nehru IIT IIM Steel plants everyone knows that.
Don't forget if Savarkar was British Agent then they would have made him some Governor or something, for political gain.
None of his family members are seen this days.
His kalapani jail cannot be sidelined bcoz of few Sorries.
I think Even Kejrival said sorry to modiji in that meeting. I say my class teacher sorry Everyday.
So respect everyone..🙏🙏🙏
The most neglected aspect of Swatantaveer's life is his contribution to Marathi Literature.
He was a prolific writer. He wrote on entire gamut of subjects from religion and theology at one end and on scientific approach and rationalism at the other end of literary spectrum.
He also was a poet extraordinaire. His two poems ने मजसी ने परत मातृभूमीला & जयोस्तुते नामोस्तुते are two best poems in Marathi language.
Shekhar should buy the two volumes, read them fully and then present them to his friends, Rahul Gandhi and Mani Shankar Ayer!! Of course, he can send link of this video as well to them, in case they do not have time to read so much!!
It's not time. It's a point of will and wish. Secondly they are not getting political leverage by doing that.
Why Mani went to Islamabad for help? So forget them..
Very good conversation. Thanks to The Print.
Please show if you agree to sign on a petition "Saverkar is real Bharan ratna"
Enjoyed the conversation.print is trolled on print platform.
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They ought to be for spreading false narrative that Idea of India is only महात्मा गांधी .....first we should know weather he was real महात्मा??
@7:30 OUCH! Vikram Sampath speaking some hard truths there on intolerance. Sadhu sadhu, Bhrata!
there were many answers Shekhar Gupta was not prepared to hear. Sampath was very polite to him.
What do we say of Rahul Gandhi Sekhar?
Sums up it all.
Vikram sampath is extremely brilliant and intelligent historian unlike others his works are rational and articulated.